July 3, 2024

#93 Haute Healing Oasis! From Holistic Healing Technologies to Psychedelic Retreats | Jessica and Peter Scofield-Chichester

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In this episode, we dive into transformative wellness journeys with the owners of the Haute Healing Oasis, Jessica and Peter Scofield-Chichester. Recently I visited and recieved a grand tour of their facility and it was like a vacation get-a-way mixed with new age healing tech. Both guests have interesting backgrounds with inspiring stories. We explore the benefits of infrared saunas and holistic healing technologies, dive into personal health transformations, and discuss the role of science and spirituality. We also highlight the healing retreats of Haute Healing Oasis, which integrate psychedelic plant medicines and traditional Ecuadorian rituals, providing both personal healing and community support. This engaging conversation promises profound insights and practical advice on holistic health practices.

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Timeline:

06:24 Jessica's Healing Journey

24:01 Peter's Back Injury and Infrared Sauna Benefits

28:30 Jessica's Fitness Journey and Trauma

38:13 Overcoming Physical and Emotional Challenges

39:07 Building a Strong Relationship

41:23 The Role of God in Our Lives

43:32 The Journey to Spiritual and Personal Growth

53:02 The Importance of Transparency and Love

01:04:31 Franchising and Future Plans

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It's anti aging helps your heart, your stress, all your happy hormones.

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and so when we got an infrared sauna, you literally feel after this time, right?

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After like 30, 40 minutes, you feel that like you just went on vacation, had a great meal, had great sex, and you just walked out of the sauna.

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And so I started really looking into the science of all this.

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it's because of this surge of neurotransmitters, it's opening up our conversation.

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To a whole nother level, our creativity and our body is healing at the same time

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Welcome to the new age human podcast, where we have inspiring conversations with spiritual entrepreneurs in the areas of mindfulness, longevity, and innovative technology.

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I'm your host, John Astacio, and I'm on a mission to help humanity discover our human potential so we can together create positive change.

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Remember the journey starts within please like, and subscribe wherever you're listening or watching.

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And with that said, let's get to the show.

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Thanks for coming on this show.

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Thanks for having us.

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Thanks for having us.

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Yeah.

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So what's, uh, our, our furry friend's name, Cookie?

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Yeah.

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Cookie wants to be here too, apparently.

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He's been, uh, following us around during the, so before we started the show, I got a nice tour with Peter and cookies, just like in every room in the sauna, just, just hanging out, you know, cookie loves

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the sauna.

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She loves all these technologies and you know, with the dog, there's no placebo.

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No.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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That's funny.

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Is there anything that you have specifically for pets that you've had cookie try out?

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Yeah.

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The infrared sauna is great for dogs.

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I could stay in there up to 15 minutes.

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She'll come in and out of the sauna.

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We have, we have several guests who bring her.

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That's here.

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Yeah.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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And the other one we use traditionally for, for pets is Beamer.

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Um, it's just a blood flow treatment.

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Um, and the animals have a lot of joint issues and stuff like that.

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And it's all about blood flow.

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So yeah,

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animals tend to love the Beamer.

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So, and the biocharger.

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She's in the biocharger room with us.

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She likes that.

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Yeah.

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We have a lot of cool technologies.

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So yeah,

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that's awesome.

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So you have some tools here.

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If anybody's listening, only we're in a room where it's like their community room and they have a gong here that has the, uh, I think the seat of life is that what's the, it's in the middle of the flower of life.

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Yeah.

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In the middle of the gong.

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Um, you have different crystal wands, you have like two huge salt lamps.

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Um,

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yeah.

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So this, this whole room, right?

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It's, I mean, even the wands here, they're selenite right?

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So selling the stone, we actually crushed that stone and made a fine powder and infused it in the paint facility.

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So the whole place is resonating with an energetic selenite idea that helps to clear energies.

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you guys look really awesome.

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I love the tattoos.

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I love the style.

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I love the energy of you guys.

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Um,

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Hey.

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Um.

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So what, and you have the best name ever besides from Peter, my brother's name.

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Okay, Jonathan.

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And it's very unique.

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Right?

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We have a name theory.

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Actually, I say we, but it's Peter has a name theory.

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What's this theory?

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So I developed it.

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I can't tell you how long ago, there's nothing scientific about it, but it's 80 percent accurate.

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All right.

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And, and I typically use two names as examples, and this is my experience.

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I don't mean any issues to anybody.

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Right.

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So if you don't disrespect.

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So if you think of guys named Mike.

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That you've known throughout your life.

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Most guys named Mike, from my experience, stand up salt of the earth guys, right?

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Just true to the word, like always dependable guys named Chris.

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I've known I've liked Chris's I can get along.

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Chris's they're good people, but when it comes to push stuff, there's a little something twisty about Chris's sometimes a little shady.

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Um, I can't fully trust.

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And there's always exceptions, right?

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Christopher could be different.

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Yeah.

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There's always exceptions for

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Columbus.

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I don't know.

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There's some shady history.

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There is some shady history, right?

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But it's an 80 percent true rule.

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So again, I don't judge anybody initially.

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I can meet a Chris and Hey, how are you?

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But.

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80 percent of the time, they're going to turn out to be a little shady,

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Tanya, kind of what we'd have to go into, but every Karen, Karen's, I'm sorry.

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You know, but not our Karen who works here and she's awesome.

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Spelled different.

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Definitely.

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With a, with a C, I think a Y at the end, right?

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No,

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no, no.

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It's the correct spelling, I guess.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, it's a name theory.

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So going back to your name, my brother's Jonathan, very nice guy.

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Actually, you look similar.

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He's also, you know, smooth on top and bearded with glasses.

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Okay.

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That's yeah, that's freaky.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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But also like very charismatic, very articulate, knows how to work a room, read a room, but like from a very loving, nurturing place, but like get stuff done.

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Yeah.

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That's interesting.

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Yeah.

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He's, you remind me actually a lot of him.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Just like a techie problem solving mind

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glasses.

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That's where the tech, without the glasses, I can't do anything.

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Cause I can't see anything, but it's like almost, yeah, I actually, um, dang, I don't want to go into a tangent, but I want to go back to you guys with.

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Um, what's made you start building this facility?

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I know that you guys have your backgrounds so I'm curious, I'm sure the audience wants to know, like, what made you want to create a space of healing?

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So for me, well, long story short, our pain, right?

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We were in a lot of pain.

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So Peter's a career firefighter.

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Where am I supposed to look actually?

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Am I supposed to look at you or?

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Whatever.

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Okay, um, so Peter hurt his back on a fire call.

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I was, uh, an extreme athlete, right?

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I was a hall of fame weightlifter.

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I was one of the top ten strongest women in the world.

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Hmm.

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Sounds really cool.

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That was my first practice with channeling.

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Um, that's how I got there, but my, the pain just debilitated my body.

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Then after I was done with my career with weightlifting, I decided to get implants, both breast and butt implants.

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Got really sick with implant illness, was unaware that that was what was happening.

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And we got an infrared sauna for our house and like our life started changing, but how we even had the thoughts of getting an infrared sauna or going down this holistic route, really, I, I think it was for me in that capacity of, I was always into holistic healing.

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You know, I had this.

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This time in my life where I pulled myself out of it and I went really 3d, right?

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I went 3d with the weightlifting 3d with supplementation.

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You

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said you did channeling, which helped you.

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Yeah.

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So you were doing a mixture of 3d and 4D plus.

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I, I was, yeah, because when I was in, it all started, I mean, when I was a kid, I was very connected to spirit, but then, um, when I was young, like even before my teens, I just.

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It was experiencing a lot of depression and actually, um, I was very connected to spirit, but there were some really real things that were happening in 3d.

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And I was, I actually got admitted into a psych ward, but instead of putting me in a children's ward, they put me in an adult's ward.

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How old were you?

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I was 11.

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Oh my gosh.

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They said that I was mature.

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And during this time, I mean, I saw people like.

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Literally loser mine from LSD trips at the same time, there wasn't the same laws.

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So there were pedophiles there.

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There were homeless people there.

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There was all these array of people.

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Like I could go into that.

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That's a different story for another day.

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But when I was there, people kept on coming to me to, to want to want help with their healing.

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Long story short, I realized like I need to help heal myself.

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So.

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This is what's really ignited my healing journey.

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And so fast forward a couple of years, I get a job at the first health food store in Stanford.

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And during that time I became vegan.

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I start researching health and wellness.

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Um, You know, I had eating disorders, so I was working with all these nutrients and all these things to just try to heal myself because I didn't want to go back there.

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That's when I got introduced into yoga.

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That's what I got introduced into meditation and like this whole and also into quantum science and this whole array of like, I need to find a way to a better way to help heal myself.

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And then that's when my healing journey started.

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So.

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I kind of, I tried to take a break from it in some aspects during those weightlifting years, but when we got back together and he, and real time and real 3d hurt his back.

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I'm like, what could we do there has to be another way and I also thought back to when I was 14, I did some missionary work and the first time I ever tried a sauna was when I was in Russia and yeah, that was a very interesting experience.

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Went back a couple of times.

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Um, but.

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I knew that there was some merit to it.

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So when we came into an infrared, I said, Oh my God, I always wanted a sauna for my house.

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And then finding out the technology of the infrared was so profound.

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It's seven times more detoxifying than a traditional sauna.

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It's you're burning up to 600 calories in 30 minutes,

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which is insane.

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Yeah.

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It's anti aging helps your heart, your stress, all your happy hormones.

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Um, and so when we got an infrared sauna, you literally feel after this time, right?

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After like 30, 40 minutes, you feel that like you just went on vacation, had a great meal, had great sex, and you just walked out of the sauna.

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And so I started really looking into the science of all this.

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That's

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very intense experience right

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there.

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Yeah.

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And in our marriage, like it started really changing.

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Like all of a sudden.

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We were decent communicators.

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We knew that we always wanted it to work, right?

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And we were committed and romantics at heart.

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But then all of a sudden we're in the box, this holy box.

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And it's because of this surge of neurotransmitters, it's opening up our conversation.

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To a whole nother level, our creativity and our body is healing at the same time.

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So we literally preyed upon it.

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I don't know if you want to talk.

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Yeah.

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I mean, everything she's saying is true.

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You know, once you start using it in for a sauna every time you use it, it feels better.

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Right.

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It's like a Caribbean beach, right?

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Every time you're on it, like, Oh my God, why don't I live here?

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Every time you go to this, if it's on every day, you have the same experience.

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So, you know, we had this experience and I prayed upon it.

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I said, God, how do you, how do you tell people all these benefits of what we're experiencing?

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And I had a dream that night for this facility and we didn't have the money, um, for it, but we had a dream for it.

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And the vision that got implanted, you know, And again, long story short, God gave us funds through to a small inheritance.

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We were able to open the doors.

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We opened up six and a half years ago with six infrared saunas and three showers.

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And, and that was it.

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Um, and, and over the last six and a half years, we've grown to the point where we are now, where there's 12 different wellness services.

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There's a body contouring, uh, division.

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We take small groups to Ecuador to do plant medicines.

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Uh, we have this communal space here that we do wellness classes in.

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So it's really the

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stem cell clinic in Mexico,

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Mexico.

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So yeah, we've, we've developed into this entire healing center, right?

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Educational center that people can come and learn about different technologies.

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That can help them naturally.

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Yeah.

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And, and after the tour, I'm like blown away because it was room after room after room of this, does that, does this, does that.

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I'm like, wow, they actually put a lot of time and energy and thought into the experience.

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And I'm used to, not that I have gone to a lot of healing centers, but my experience of even just going to like, uh, a simple, like, uh, rehabilitation for like hospital or whatever.

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It's usually just a.

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A dull room.

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That's all white or off white colors.

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And you're just kind of like by yourself and you're just waiting for the physician or the doctor that come in.

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And, you know, you'll be lucky if it smells nice or when you go into these different rooms, it's, you're, you're, You're transported to a different place.

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The lights are different.

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The smell is different.

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The sound is different.

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And then you open a door and it's like, I said, it was like the matrix where you're going down the hall, you open one door, you're in this office building and then you open another one and you're like in the Sahara desert, like that's kind of like what it felt like it was weird.

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Oh, I love that.

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I love how you explained it like that.

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And there is, and thank you for seeing the heart and the love and the.

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Attention that we've put into everything, you know, Peter, as a career firefighter, me as a 20 year school teacher and just having a love of people, um, we both have this background in trauma and in, in trauma training.

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And as an athlete.

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I noticed there was an, as a school teacher, it was the same thing that I saw replicated through every sect of life that we feel in this Western culture, what we've bought into is this idea that in order for healing to happen or any work to get done, everything needs to be, um, just clinical.

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Everything needs to have, uh, no beauty to it.

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No, no.

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Just carbon copy, and this is not the way that we work, you know, when we talk about like hyper wellness or going into some of these clinical settings or the institution of school, which is a story for a different day

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coming from a teacher.

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Yeah, it's saying that, like, in order for anybody to adequately heal or learn, they need to be in a receptive state.

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And in order for that to happen.

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People need to feel safe.

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So first of all, safety is important, making people feel safe and included and comforted, but then also having a space that allows physical, like physically, right?

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The sympathetic parasympathetic nervous system to come down and calm down and relax.

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Is really crucial to learning, whether you're learning a new language or you are learning a new way.

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Your cells are new learning a new way to operate.

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So, with the space that we've created, it's a full sensory experience.

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I actually don't believe in sensory deprivation.

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I don't actually believe that there's any such thing of it because even when you close your eyes, you still have.

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Your whole synthesis come up so we can try to clear out and tune out, but the real way of healing is to have this, this new, um, synthesis of a full sensory experience with a light therapy, sound therapy, the aromatherapy, um,

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I was actually, well, you're going to say something just to catch on the experience aspect, right?

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I mean, the program right out there is very boring.

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Right.

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I mean, they're talking about the doctor, the same doctor was your spring.

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I went to as a kid, right?

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So nothing has changed.

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Right.

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And I'm sitting there 40 minutes, miserable in the waiting room to go into, in the doctor's office and wait another 20 minutes.

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And you're

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not exaggerating.

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My wife would just came from a very similar experience.

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She was by herself for like 20 minutes and like in silence.

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That's

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forever.

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This is the experience, right.

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That, that is given to us.

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Right.

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So.

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In, in everything, right?

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We should raise the bar, not only for ourselves, right?

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But we should raise the bar in everything we do and, and our standards should raise, right?

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And, and thinking from Tony Robbins, right?

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Like raise your standards, right?

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When you raise your standards, everything must come up to get to that point, right?

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So could you go to an inference sauna at, at, you know, Joe's sauna shack down the street?

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Maybe if it has, you know, great, it go to it, right?

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But just for the health benefits of it.

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But if there's a choice.

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Between that and something that's nicer.

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That's something that's elevated, right?

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That experience that you're valued, right?

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Cause that's the key you being valued is the key, right?

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Every person through here is our guests.

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They're not a customer.

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Right.

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That experience that you have is so vital to me as an owner, right?

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It's, it's, it works right back to the wellness aspect

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that reminded me.

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Um, you, you realize you want some water, do you want some tea?

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And then my wife's like, and then, and then you said, Oh, just get a teacup.

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And I'm looking at the cups.

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I'm like, okay.

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Those look really nice.

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Is that decoration?

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Am I just going to drink out of a decoration by accident and they have something in the back, you know, like you're used to, like the decoration is really nice.

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And then what you use is the plastic thing.

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That's like monotone China.

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Right.

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Right.

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The secret China.

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Why does anyone have China?

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I don't understand.

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It's sad to cabinet.

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I looked at my grandmother's China, my

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old life.

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It's like, use it.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So going back to that point, I went off on a little bit of a tangent, but going back to that point, it's like, Even for recovery, right?

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We're used to like these paradigms, such as like work harder, work faster, or self care is selfish, right?

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You're not a good mom.

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If you take time for yourself and do all this, but if you're an environment that can allow your nervous system to calm down, and then you're receiving all the benefits from these technologies that have over 20 years of international research on them.

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Most of our technologies.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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From a variety of jurisdictions of doctors.

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Then all of a sudden I can reprogram my body.

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I can reprogram my life.

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I can upgrade my mind so much faster.

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So all of these devices that we have here, the 12, it could seem like overwhelming, but it's really just a healing playground over there.

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All the services, they won't hurt you.

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They're designed to be stackable, which means you can do one and then another for added benefit.

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You're going to get this surge of dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, endorphins, so you just feel good, you live your best, you have more clarity.

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So the whole paradigm is, that's when the body and the mind and emotional states can really heal and recover.

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I like to say that in our society, we're used to operating like a machine gun.

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We're just all the time with everything.

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We don't even know where we are.

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We don't know what we're saying, what we're doing, what we're eating.

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It's such on rapid speed.

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And we're supposed to, and we're supposed to feel this like glory about operating like that too.

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It's really screwed up.

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But then I thought of this one day while in the sauna, I would rather operate like a slingshot.

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You know, this is aligned to action.

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Right?

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I'm pulling back.

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I'm focused to spring forward.

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So coming to Hope Healing Oasis or HHO is like that slingshot.

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You're saying for a moment in time, er, stop, let me just go there for 20 minutes or 60 or even a couple of hours and just pull back in this moment and then when you go back into your regular life, how much more effective, efficient, happy, aligned are you going to be?

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So I've, and even Einstein did this.

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So like when Einstein was, you know, creating the atomic bomb, he had, he came into, um, sticking points where he just couldn't break through mentally.

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Just like we have those sticking points in our everyday lives with our kids, work, et cetera, all of a sudden he moved away and play the violin, something totally different.

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And so that's what we are.

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We're the violin.

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All I like to say, all these services here, like you're the perfect instrument and all these services here are just hitting on different notes in the body.

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Yeah, right.

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So it's all working together.

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So you can be that awesome slingshot that you're meant to be

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become an instrument.

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Yeah.

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I like how you tie that together.

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I'm like, Oh, shoot.

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She just totally connected the instrument machine gun and instrument.

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Like, yeah, a lot of weapons.

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Yeah.

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Beauty.

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Right.

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And so, yeah,

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I really like, um, how you, Simplified it, right?

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Because yes, there's, you can go forever and do the research and this thing and that thing, and it doesn't work until there's an overall theme to it with an end goal.

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And here I like the idea of like, it's an escape.

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Right?

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Um, you could go to Ecuador and hang out, you know, hang out, or just go downtown and, you know, Find this healing oasis, like, again, like that, that oasis.

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And that's a good name because in the middle, the middle of a city, right.

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Could be like a desert of stress and anxiety, and then you have your oasis, which is huge because people, people from all walks of life can, can relate to having it.

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Especially in the Western society, just that go, go, go, busy, busy, busy.

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Especially if you come from the East coast, right?

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New York area is just go, go, go.

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And then the need to find a way to just escape and whatnot.

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I know you were going to say, yeah, no, I

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mean, to kind of pair up both.

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It's the machine gun, right?

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You're, you're.

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You're blasting away constantly until you're out of ammo, right?

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And then you're spent.

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Right.

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And then what good are you, right?

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You need to refuel, right?

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You need to take time for yourself again, so you can propel forward on every aspect.

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And you know, this place again is a, is a staycation, right?

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It's a, it's a healthy staycation, right?

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Instead of, you know, going and having drinks, right?

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This is the new happy hour, right?

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Come here and decompress for the day, right?

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In a totally different, healthy, detoxing, relaxing way.

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You know, 99 percent of all disease starts at a stress level, right?

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Once you really take away the stress, right?

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Now the body can start to just do what it does, right?

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This, this is the miracle, right?

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This is the perfect instrument, right?

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It was created by the creator, right?

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It works in perfect harmony.

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If I get a paper cut, white blood cells rush over and seal up and a scab and wound and like it never happened in a week, right?

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So it's perfectly engineered.

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But we get in the way, we get in the way with the program that's forced to us, right?

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With the food they ingest, make us eat, right?

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With, with the medicines they tell us that we have to take, right?

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But there's better ways, right?

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Just, it just takes a little education in that essence.

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And that education has been Restricted from us in a sense.

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Right.

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And not propagate it enough in that right way.

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Yeah.

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And again, I'm not the expert on nutrition, right.

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Or any of those things, but I know that there's better ways and I can direct people to those through the center.

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We work with some great practitioners in that sense, really trusted sources.

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So again, if somebody needs somebody in that essence, as it adds that wellness center, I can offer a vetted.

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Device to you or vetted version to you.

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It's got research behind it.

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Exactly.

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You're working with it.

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Um, I do want to go into.

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You're back.

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I know we grazed past that and I know if someone, um, several people back injuries.

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I know someone, firefighter had back issues that had severe back injuries.

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And I want to speak to that person.

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What happened?

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And then I'm pretty sure, I think I overheard you earlier talking about how, like, there's some work they did here that helped out.

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Sure,

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sure.

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Um, so, uh, again, this was one of the starting points of the business was about nine years ago.

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Now, uh, I had a back injury on the fire department and during my rehab, I learned about infrared saunas and one of their benefits, you know, there's 30 different proven medical benefits, but, uh, inflammation, right, decreasing inflammation is a huge proponent of the infrared rays.

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So, you know, looking at it with Jessica, we got one for the house and literally using the infrared sauna, you're back right up against that panel, right?

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It's just.

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Put that infrared light that bring down the information that alone is going to help your back, right?

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Or any back issue or any tension.

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Is it the inflammation?

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Because it's going down.

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It's kind of like the body doesn't have to worry about that part.

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It can focus that energy on fixing itself.

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So if you think of all discomfort in the body, right.

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From, from a back, from a back problem, right.

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To a migraine headache, right.

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It's inflammation.

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Inflammation is caused by stagnant blood flow.

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Blood's not moving, right?

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It's pooling up.

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It's building, it's swelling, right?

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Causing inflammation.

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And this happens at different levels, right?

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I mean, uh, I talk about blood flow with the average person.

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They think of veins and arteries, right?

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That's what we're taught makes about 24 percent of the general.

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Blood volume in your body travels through those conduits.

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The majority of blood happens at a micro capillary level, right?

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There's a little tiny streams in the body, right?

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They're the size of human hairs.

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There's 70, 000 miles of these capillaries in our body.

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They run over every organ, every muscle fiber in your body has is in there.

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So that's the majority, right?

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76 percent of blood and volume is going through those capillaries.

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So Beamer, again, going back to modalities that help things, right?

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Okay.

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The infrared signs reduce inflammation, right?

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Again, reducing the inflammation that are allowing more blood to happen.

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Beamers, a technology that works specifically to increase blood flow at the micro capillary level, the tiny blood vessels.

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And this is something that no other technology does.

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No medication can do it.

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The best hospital in the world can't do it.

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That technology simply uses frequency.

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To stimulate what's called a autonomous, uh, response, right?

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You're the capillaries aren't pumped by your heart.

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That's your veins.

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Those vessels are pumped by your autonomous nervous system.

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So it's electrical.

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So now beamer is using a frequency to stimulate that response in your body.

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And now if I put a, uh, a, A modality, like a B strap right around your back and focus frequencies right there.

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I'm stimulating that firing of those micro capillaries, which almost acts like a magnet.

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It's pulling more blood in, right?

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And as it's pulling more fresh blood in, it's bringing more oxygen, it's bringing more nutrients to the cells that are stagnant, that need to heal.

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And as that new fresh blood comes in, it's pushing out stagnant metabolic waste that builds up and prevents healing.

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So now it's a, it's a process, right?

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That the body, everything in the body is a process.

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Some things work faster, some things work slower, everyone's different, but there's nothing that ever I've ever come across any condition that I haven't been able to positively affect using Beamer therapy.

00:27:02.666 --> 00:27:03.057
Wow.

00:27:03.196 --> 00:27:03.416
Right.

00:27:03.416 --> 00:27:04.307
Because again, it's the body.

00:27:04.386 --> 00:27:05.606
It's not doing anything special.

00:27:05.797 --> 00:27:08.916
It's just making this special, like making this act faster.

00:27:08.916 --> 00:27:10.876
So that's great for back issues.

00:27:11.126 --> 00:27:17.336
A micro light is a cold laser that works with CBD oil to bring down inflammation again, inside the body painlessly.

00:27:17.656 --> 00:27:20.666
Um, so there's a lot of great technologies for back issues.

00:27:20.961 --> 00:27:26.922
Um, you know, a lot of great technology for a lot of different things that work for, I mean, seasonal, uh, allergies, right?

00:27:26.942 --> 00:27:29.771
The Norse is great for, you know, people with allergies.

00:27:29.811 --> 00:27:34.152
Um, Norse is technology that's, that's proprietary to us.

00:27:34.201 --> 00:27:36.682
Um, we patented our technology.

00:27:37.356 --> 00:27:38.586
It's a basically a sauna booth.

00:27:38.586 --> 00:27:52.967
You sit in, you're receiving four treatments simultaneously, uh, and it's for negative ions, uh, which are all the happy chemicals of the beach and waterfalls oxygen is right now we're breathing 21 percent oxygen inside North, you're breathing 95 percent medical grade.

00:27:52.988 --> 00:28:01.826
Uh, oxygen, uh, ours for red light, which is great for everything, cellular health, the retina health, everything that's affected positively from red light therapy.

00:28:01.906 --> 00:28:02.747
Inflammation.

00:28:02.748 --> 00:28:08.936
And then, uh, soul therapy, uh, is the S endorsed and that's great for all bronchial issues.

00:28:08.946 --> 00:28:13.017
I think, um, uh, asthma, COPD.

00:28:13.071 --> 00:28:17.352
And also anything on the top of the skin, eczema, psoriasis, um, are all salt therapy.

00:28:17.352 --> 00:28:19.932
So for treatments, 20 minutes with yourself, with your partner.

00:28:20.221 --> 00:28:23.271
Um, and again, you feel super charged to reborn when you get out of there.

00:28:23.281 --> 00:28:24.162
It's like a wide

00:28:24.162 --> 00:28:29.402
range of things that helps with, which is all tied in with inflammation, which is pretty cool.

00:28:29.432 --> 00:28:29.912
Yeah.

00:28:30.501 --> 00:28:40.051
Um, Jessica, fitness, you had some trauma physically fitness wise.

00:28:40.926 --> 00:28:57.836
And I have some friends that are in the fitness world, whether a personal trainer or just enthusiast and, you know, been doing some extreme stuff, um, I'm interested if you want to elaborate on some of the trauma that you went through and then some of the modalities, maybe that, that you went into on your journey that helped it.

00:28:57.836 --> 00:29:00.176
Cause I think that'll be an interesting story.

00:29:00.227 --> 00:29:01.297
Yeah, for sure.

00:29:01.942 --> 00:29:06.451
So, you know, I love this center because we're at the intersection.

00:29:06.451 --> 00:29:14.261
I we're talking about before of science meets spirituality in the sense of we have all this tech, right?

00:29:14.261 --> 00:29:19.102
With over 20 years of research, but it feels like a spiritual atmosphere.

00:29:19.112 --> 00:29:25.122
Although there's nothing suggesting that it's tied to any religion or spirituality or anything.

00:29:25.122 --> 00:29:25.872
It's just because.

00:29:26.356 --> 00:29:26.707
I don't know.

00:29:26.707 --> 00:29:29.186
You feel calm and nice and, and relaxed.

00:29:29.457 --> 00:29:29.787
Right.

00:29:29.797 --> 00:29:32.027
But, um, okay.

00:29:32.027 --> 00:29:33.797
Kind of go back to your question for a second.

00:29:34.207 --> 00:29:34.396
Sure.

00:29:34.436 --> 00:29:34.646
Sure.

00:29:34.666 --> 00:29:38.186
No, um, your, your fitness journey and the trauma that you experienced.

00:29:38.186 --> 00:29:48.936
So like, you know, I love that I'm a part of the healing oasis in this sense, because even though I'm a, am a very spiritual person, like I've done some huge things in 3d.

00:29:49.136 --> 00:29:49.876
Like I'm deaf.

00:29:49.916 --> 00:29:53.946
I don't know if I could swear on this, but like, I'm definitely the kind of person who just gets shit done.

00:29:54.287 --> 00:29:54.727
Like.

00:29:55.116 --> 00:29:59.836
If I feel compelled or driven by something, I just go for it.

00:29:59.856 --> 00:30:03.186
I'm like a freight train, nothing can get in my way.

00:30:03.457 --> 00:30:05.707
It can be a blessing and a curse at different times.

00:30:05.707 --> 00:30:13.656
But with that, um, you know, it was a blessing when I was younger in the sense of having all these different records with weightlifting.

00:30:13.656 --> 00:30:15.386
And then as I got older, it was different.

00:30:15.426 --> 00:30:21.287
So in turn, I started really weightlifting when I was like 15 or 16 years old.

00:30:21.497 --> 00:30:21.936
That's young.

00:30:22.018 --> 00:30:23.457
It's 20 something years.

00:30:23.477 --> 00:30:25.156
My dad got me into the gym.

00:30:25.717 --> 00:30:30.027
He was, uh, what is it called on the Patriots?

00:30:30.146 --> 00:30:31.047
He was, um,

00:30:31.106 --> 00:30:34.487
yeah, like the NFL farm teams, like the coming up in the ranks.

00:30:34.977 --> 00:30:35.186
Yeah, he

00:30:35.186 --> 00:30:39.547
was, he was, uh, I forgot what the word was, but he was coming up to go on to the Patriots football team.

00:30:39.967 --> 00:30:40.146
Yeah.

00:30:40.457 --> 00:30:40.797
Yeah.

00:30:40.798 --> 00:30:41.461
He's in the draft.

00:30:41.462 --> 00:30:42.550
That's what it was.

00:30:42.550 --> 00:30:42.824
Yeah.

00:30:42.824 --> 00:30:46.231
And so like I was growing up and he was benching 500 pounds.

00:30:46.432 --> 00:30:48.862
My brother, Jonathan, on, you know, sitting on his chest.

00:30:48.971 --> 00:30:51.031
I mean, it was pretty hysterical.

00:30:51.182 --> 00:30:55.642
I had no desire to get into this realm whatsoever.

00:30:56.092 --> 00:30:58.902
I, you know, played sports when I was younger.

00:30:58.961 --> 00:31:02.692
Tennis did dancing, you know, uh, soccer, that sort of thing.

00:31:02.731 --> 00:31:08.971
Just a couple of things, just a couple of things, but it was my, my, my brother was like, you know, head of everything.

00:31:08.971 --> 00:31:09.021
Yeah.

00:31:09.172 --> 00:31:13.112
Um, yeah, still plays hockey, all of this, right.

00:31:13.112 --> 00:31:13.902
Captain of everything.

00:31:14.211 --> 00:31:19.011
Um, but so for me, I got into fitness, not because I love fitness.

00:31:20.372 --> 00:31:24.211
I got into fitness because I felt lost.

00:31:25.432 --> 00:31:27.602
So I was, you know, it was in high school.

00:31:27.602 --> 00:31:28.961
I was still struggling with.

00:31:29.451 --> 00:31:30.251
Depression.

00:31:30.561 --> 00:31:34.092
Um, you know, I was doing some drugs.

00:31:34.092 --> 00:31:36.951
I was not like in the good, I'm not in the best way.

00:31:37.291 --> 00:31:40.092
And I was really failing out of high school.

00:31:40.811 --> 00:31:45.392
And my dad was like, listen, you said you wanted to come to the gym.

00:31:45.461 --> 00:31:46.791
Why don't you come to the gym with me?

00:31:47.321 --> 00:31:53.731
And the first time I went to the gym, it was, it was at a time in history where there were not really any women at the gym.

00:31:54.112 --> 00:31:55.251
There were a couple.

00:31:55.602 --> 00:31:57.392
And I just remember.

00:31:57.636 --> 00:32:02.326
Working out and just, I guess that increased oxygen and the endorphins.

00:32:02.326 --> 00:32:02.727
Right.

00:32:03.007 --> 00:32:06.227
And like afterwards, just feeling really high.

00:32:06.227 --> 00:32:10.307
I'm like intoxicated by this and then also seeing the women around me.

00:32:10.307 --> 00:32:13.436
And I'm like, well, they look like confident and fit and strong.

00:32:13.436 --> 00:32:19.047
And I really like this, even though at times I didn't, I was so lazy.

00:32:19.396 --> 00:32:21.186
Like I was the biggest procrastinator.

00:32:21.186 --> 00:32:22.307
I was so lazy.

00:32:22.567 --> 00:32:27.027
And if it was rainy day, like I could talk myself out of going to the gym in a heartbeat.

00:32:27.652 --> 00:32:35.192
But I tried to figure out ways during that time of talking myself into it, learning on like, how could I change my mind?

00:32:35.652 --> 00:32:37.291
How could I reframe things?

00:32:37.612 --> 00:32:42.761
And so I was into this like quantum science realm without really understanding it per se.

00:32:42.761 --> 00:32:44.951
I guess that was at the same time learning about it.

00:32:45.402 --> 00:32:46.332
But, um, yeah.

00:32:46.332 --> 00:32:47.922
And 3D I became.

00:32:48.261 --> 00:32:51.811
I was just weightlifting because it kept me away from the bars, right?

00:32:51.811 --> 00:32:56.531
It kept me away from like extending myself in this way in college.

00:32:56.731 --> 00:33:01.582
And I just saw people going down that road and it was not appealing to me at all.

00:33:01.951 --> 00:33:15.392
So when I started weightlifting, I liked that it gave me this structure and this discipline and this, this, uh, you know, little draft for my life and how I should navigate it.

00:33:16.267 --> 00:33:18.317
So when I started, does that make sense?

00:33:19.116 --> 00:33:19.557
Yeah.

00:33:19.596 --> 00:33:19.876
So

00:33:19.876 --> 00:33:21.576
it builds discipline for sure.

00:33:21.596 --> 00:33:22.057
Yeah.

00:33:22.176 --> 00:33:25.336
So it was like, okay, if I want to get strong, then I need to get enough sleep.

00:33:25.336 --> 00:33:31.356
And if I need to get enough sleep, then I can't have a lot of caffeine and I need to watch how caffeine affects me, you know?

00:33:31.386 --> 00:33:34.497
And then it was like, well, All of that.

00:33:34.527 --> 00:33:35.487
Oh, my mindset.

00:33:35.517 --> 00:33:37.207
How does my mindset play into this?

00:33:37.866 --> 00:33:40.416
And so, Oh, what about my nutrition?

00:33:40.676 --> 00:33:43.277
So this is what, like, it gave me a blueprint.

00:33:43.507 --> 00:33:47.596
And so I started really, that was what I was missing was a discipline.

00:33:47.717 --> 00:33:50.757
It's not that I wanted to play sports or be involved in sports.

00:33:51.237 --> 00:33:56.267
Then at some point, um, you know, I was, I was a pre Olympic hammer thrower.

00:33:56.267 --> 00:33:57.686
I was doing that in college.

00:33:57.707 --> 00:33:58.017
Wow.

00:33:58.446 --> 00:33:58.876
Yeah.

00:33:58.876 --> 00:34:02.727
And so I was training with a lot of Olympians, all women.

00:34:03.307 --> 00:34:06.596
And so that ignited my fire even more.

00:34:06.626 --> 00:34:13.086
And then post, uh, I got, I just hurt myself so bad with, uh, the throwing of the hammer.

00:34:13.327 --> 00:34:18.306
I think I hurt myself more with that sport than I did with all of the years of weightlifting.

00:34:18.327 --> 00:34:18.556
How

00:34:18.556 --> 00:34:19.516
heavy were these hammers?

00:34:19.606 --> 00:34:21.286
The hammer was eight pounds, but in.

00:34:21.487 --> 00:34:22.246
Three seconds.

00:34:22.297 --> 00:34:41.726
The whole premise is you go from zero to 60 and three seconds, that kind of torque on your body, you know, I tore both shoulders, um, and I, I herniated my back as one L4 L5 and through one of the practitioners that we partner with at HHO, I've been seeing him for over 20 years.

00:34:41.996 --> 00:34:44.967
He does somatic and release and fascia work.

00:34:45.297 --> 00:34:48.266
So he helped, they said that I was never going to be able to squat again.

00:34:48.666 --> 00:34:50.327
He helped me rehab my body.

00:34:50.657 --> 00:34:56.036
Introduce me to other aspects of my mind just by default is very spiritual man.

00:34:56.487 --> 00:35:00.376
And I just got into weightlifting.

00:35:00.376 --> 00:35:06.427
I had a friend signed me up for a powerlifting competition, broke a new Jersey record and was like, wow, this is a lot of fun.

00:35:06.827 --> 00:35:10.507
And let me just, you know, have fun while I'm doing it and be really girly.

00:35:10.556 --> 00:35:15.016
So all of a sudden this character power princess, I kind of just channeled her.

00:35:15.467 --> 00:35:22.277
She had pigtails and had glitter makeup and fun socks and colorful outfits.

00:35:22.277 --> 00:35:27.016
And it was my way of like calling in my like divine beast energy.

00:35:27.018 --> 00:35:27.117
I

00:35:27.117 --> 00:35:28.706
need to see a photo afterwards.

00:35:28.717 --> 00:35:29.936
Yeah, it was like my

00:35:29.987 --> 00:35:31.206
divine beast energy.

00:35:31.206 --> 00:35:32.896
So the years of weightlifting.

00:35:33.266 --> 00:35:36.867
Like all of that, all the pounding that I did on my body.

00:35:36.867 --> 00:35:48.086
I mean, I, in one day in competition weighing 1 65, I squatted five 40, I benched three 30 and I dead lifted five 30.

00:35:48.177 --> 00:35:50.067
It was a 1400 pound total.

00:35:50.367 --> 00:35:52.286
That's not including my warmups.

00:35:52.817 --> 00:35:53.447
All of this.

00:35:53.447 --> 00:35:56.686
So imagine doing this for years over and over and over again.

00:35:56.836 --> 00:36:00.976
I had almost a world record in the deadlift at the time, which was 600 pounds.

00:36:01.416 --> 00:36:02.407
And so.

00:36:02.726 --> 00:36:03.086
Yeah.

00:36:03.086 --> 00:36:05.706
Then I started training world's strongest men.

00:36:05.717 --> 00:36:09.597
Also, I got invited into all these different arenas.

00:36:10.007 --> 00:36:13.876
And so the weightlifting took a big pound on my body.

00:36:13.907 --> 00:36:25.536
So I never fully were healed, healed with the hammer from my shoulders, tore hip flexor back, never fully healed, you know, took that break and went full throttle into the weightlifting.

00:36:25.967 --> 00:36:28.476
So funny too, because my nervous system was shot.

00:36:28.657 --> 00:36:29.896
My adrenal glands.

00:36:30.556 --> 00:36:32.686
Shot it took years to recover.

00:36:32.907 --> 00:36:45.126
And then during the time I was taking like a FedDRA, I got lost in this world of 3d medicine, where at one point I'm on like 12 or 14 pharmaceutical medications.

00:36:45.617 --> 00:36:49.507
You know, at the end of my career, steroids were really tempting.

00:36:50.016 --> 00:36:52.117
And it was like, how do I get.

00:36:52.342 --> 00:37:03.681
Out of this loop, because it was fun for a while until it wasn't until my body started just really not responding.

00:37:03.972 --> 00:37:09.092
And at that point I started objectively assessing the people around me.

00:37:09.641 --> 00:37:18.621
And it was everybody who stayed in this realm too long, ended up with some kind of long term disability.

00:37:19.391 --> 00:37:20.041
Period.

00:37:20.532 --> 00:37:29.032
You know, and I, I even saw, you know, one of my friends, she was the first woman to ever be the world's strongest woman waking up out of bed with trekking poles.

00:37:29.572 --> 00:37:30.922
Like I didn't want that.

00:37:31.322 --> 00:37:46.902
So I literally, when I met Peter, he gave me the grace, the clarity, the love, and the freedom to assess myself and to also surrender what I was doing.

00:37:47.492 --> 00:38:05.731
And I literally, it was really hard psychologically to just turn it off because your ego is so involved in it and I just, yeah, like ran myself to therapy and ran into more of a spiritual practice and, and the sauna really helped it was, it was a precursor to all of that.

00:38:06.001 --> 00:38:13.501
The sauna, Peter and the sauna helped change my life and help me leave that kind of world.

00:38:13.501 --> 00:38:17.972
But I mean, I had, at the end of my career, I had 300 pounds fall on my face.

00:38:18.831 --> 00:38:22.242
It crushed my face, displaced my jaw, nerve damage.

00:38:22.342 --> 00:38:24.422
Was that like a gym fail type of thing?

00:38:24.452 --> 00:38:26.681
Yeah, it was a not properly spotting.

00:38:27.016 --> 00:38:28.237
My, my bench press probably.

00:38:28.626 --> 00:38:30.306
Yeah, definitely bench press partner.

00:38:30.306 --> 00:38:31.306
Not properly spotting.

00:38:31.306 --> 00:38:36.916
I can't handle, which is why he's an ex boyfriend, but no, that's not throw that out there.

00:38:37.257 --> 00:38:39.297
No, that's not mine, but that is why,

00:38:39.626 --> 00:38:40.266
you know, all of it.

00:38:40.427 --> 00:38:49.677
But one of the many, many, many reasons for anybody who's interested in Jessica power, princess Schofield compilation on YouTube is a great video.

00:38:49.726 --> 00:38:51.297
Uh, that's like five minutes long.

00:38:51.297 --> 00:38:52.556
It shows a ton of her highlights.

00:38:52.976 --> 00:38:54.447
Um, again, it was amazing.

00:38:54.456 --> 00:38:55.496
The career she had.

00:38:55.891 --> 00:39:03.981
And, and the hall of fame induction of that, um, as an athlete and as a person, she's so dedicated again to anything she does.

00:39:04.291 --> 00:39:06.891
It's literally full on fire.

00:39:07.461 --> 00:39:09.632
I mean, you're, you seem like a muscular dude too.

00:39:09.652 --> 00:39:12.112
Do you guys like ever compete in the gym

00:39:12.141 --> 00:39:12.692
sometimes?

00:39:12.702 --> 00:39:14.072
Well, that was the problem.

00:39:14.092 --> 00:39:15.512
See when I started dating her, right.

00:39:15.541 --> 00:39:16.331
She asked me out.

00:39:16.331 --> 00:39:17.092
I didn't want to date her.

00:39:17.092 --> 00:39:17.382
Right.

00:39:17.422 --> 00:39:18.722
But I was scared to say no.

00:39:19.661 --> 00:39:20.641
No, I'm only kidding.

00:39:20.831 --> 00:39:23.101
And I actually pursued her for about two years.

00:39:23.342 --> 00:39:24.422
Um, but you know.

00:39:25.737 --> 00:39:30.027
Um, I, uh, you know, working out together, I said, listen, I can't keep this up.

00:39:30.027 --> 00:39:34.277
I got to figure out how to get her, I got to program her mind a different way to, to, to come down.

00:39:34.286 --> 00:39:34.536
No,

00:39:36.317 --> 00:39:37.626
I was never really.

00:39:37.981 --> 00:39:42.831
I mean, I, I had a streak of, uh, competitiveness and it was interesting.

00:39:43.181 --> 00:39:46.311
So finishing that point, I had this streak of competitiveness.

00:39:46.972 --> 00:39:55.922
Actually, I didn't realize how competitive I was until I got implants, breast implants and butt implants and something about the implants.

00:39:55.922 --> 00:39:58.431
I don't know if it's all the toxins because they're filled with over.

00:39:58.722 --> 00:40:01.181
What a 38 carcinogenic materials.

00:40:01.411 --> 00:40:02.402
Uh, that's a lot.

00:40:02.452 --> 00:40:02.891
Yeah.

00:40:02.891 --> 00:40:05.661
And they start seeping the moment they hit your body.

00:40:05.931 --> 00:40:06.262
Okay.

00:40:06.442 --> 00:40:09.072
So imagine what it does for your mind too.

00:40:09.072 --> 00:40:18.711
I mean, I got four strands of parasites, leaky gut, autoimmune issues, 12 full blown food allergens, like it, it wrecked my body.

00:40:18.862 --> 00:40:23.041
This place saved my life long story short, but that competitiveness.

00:40:23.461 --> 00:40:34.101
I started noticing with the, with the implants, but in terms of in general, being competitive, no, I, on this spiritual journey, no, it's, it's not about being competitive.

00:40:34.391 --> 00:40:39.331
It's about being cooperative and, and so we don't, we don't compete.

00:40:39.351 --> 00:40:40.791
We're more like ping pong.

00:40:40.862 --> 00:40:44.192
We were like, you just, iron sharpens iron, help

00:40:44.192 --> 00:40:44.481
one another.

00:40:44.621 --> 00:40:52.657
I'm enjoying the, And the word just left me, but just how the, the relationship that you have with each other, the dynamic, there you go.

00:40:52.657 --> 00:40:53.646
That's the word of that.

00:40:53.646 --> 00:40:54.876
You guys, what you guys have.

00:40:54.876 --> 00:41:00.117
And I think it was either you, Jessica, or you, Peter, you're just saying like, this is my role.

00:41:00.117 --> 00:41:00.936
I stick with it.

00:41:00.967 --> 00:41:03.016
And then I support in my role.

00:41:03.621 --> 00:41:04.101
Right.

00:41:04.231 --> 00:41:04.961
Could you go into that?

00:41:04.961 --> 00:41:10.112
Because I, who knows, let's say someone's listening and it's, it's like a, a potential power couple like you guys.

00:41:10.112 --> 00:41:11.472
And they're like, Oh, I want to do something similar.

00:41:11.672 --> 00:41:12.902
Might not be a healing center.

00:41:12.911 --> 00:41:14.652
It could be anything.

00:41:14.652 --> 00:41:14.931
Right.

00:41:15.202 --> 00:41:17.081
I'm curious, like how you guys make that work.

00:41:17.092 --> 00:41:21.762
Cause sometimes, I mean, during COVID like marriages ended because they just couldn't stand each other.

00:41:21.942 --> 00:41:22.072
How

00:41:22.072 --> 00:41:22.842
do you guys make that happen?

00:41:22.871 --> 00:41:23.271
Yeah.

00:41:23.612 --> 00:41:27.632
Um, you know, I mean, first and foremost, it's, it's our connection to God.

00:41:27.882 --> 00:41:30.722
You know, I mean, that, that has all the power and all control.

00:41:31.161 --> 00:41:32.822
Um, and through that, right.

00:41:32.822 --> 00:41:35.731
It's, it's our purpose through him of what that is.

00:41:36.161 --> 00:41:39.132
And, you know, going back to the competitive nature, right.

00:41:39.161 --> 00:41:40.612
There's no competition.

00:41:40.972 --> 00:41:42.842
I'm here to support her, right.

00:41:42.862 --> 00:41:44.012
She's here to support me.

00:41:44.242 --> 00:41:46.041
And that doesn't mean to just agree with something.

00:41:46.452 --> 00:41:46.601
Right.

00:41:46.601 --> 00:41:47.461
That's not support.

00:41:47.521 --> 00:41:49.391
I'm not a yes man to her or vice versa.

00:41:49.751 --> 00:41:49.811
Right.

00:41:49.972 --> 00:41:51.041
Then we never grow.

00:41:51.291 --> 00:41:51.771
Right.

00:41:52.112 --> 00:41:55.762
Um, I have to be that sounding board of reason, right.

00:41:55.811 --> 00:41:57.152
And logic and vice versa.

00:41:57.202 --> 00:42:00.472
So we're always here to just, uh, and that's the advice to anybody, right.

00:42:00.472 --> 00:42:05.041
It's just to be that, that good friend, but a good friend is going to tell you the truth.

00:42:05.661 --> 00:42:07.402
And, and to that point, here's a story.

00:42:07.652 --> 00:42:10.782
So in the business sense, right, I'm, we're, we're doing a lot with the business.

00:42:10.782 --> 00:42:12.402
We're franchising the business this year.

00:42:12.791 --> 00:42:15.931
And with that, there's a lot of marketing materials I have to come to be.

00:42:15.931 --> 00:42:22.512
So, uh, we developed this about two minute teaser, uh, you know, in highlighting the business and the structure and then the opportunity.

00:42:23.152 --> 00:42:24.931
And I was pseudo proud with it.

00:42:24.931 --> 00:42:27.532
And I sent it out to about 10 people and got their opinions.

00:42:27.942 --> 00:42:28.271
And.

00:42:28.871 --> 00:42:30.581
Eight of them said, Oh, great, it looks awesome.

00:42:30.661 --> 00:42:34.952
And two of them were very critical, but not meanly, right?

00:42:34.952 --> 00:42:36.442
They were just like, Hey, this should be in here.

00:42:36.442 --> 00:42:36.992
This should be in here.

00:42:36.992 --> 00:42:37.652
You guys do this.

00:42:37.702 --> 00:42:38.541
this, blah, blah.

00:42:38.541 --> 00:42:41.331
You're missing this, this, this, and they were a hundred percent.

00:42:41.331 --> 00:42:41.731
Right.

00:42:42.081 --> 00:42:42.291
Right.

00:42:42.291 --> 00:42:44.731
And it creates an entirely new workload for me.

00:42:44.731 --> 00:42:44.922
Right.

00:42:44.922 --> 00:42:48.641
Cause I spent a long time creating that and it's all scrap, right?

00:42:48.641 --> 00:42:51.461
It doesn't matter because their goal is to make it the best, right?

00:42:51.771 --> 00:42:52.362
Mixed feelings.

00:42:52.362 --> 00:42:52.702
Yeah.

00:42:52.751 --> 00:42:54.771
But they were a hundred percent right on it.

00:42:54.842 --> 00:42:55.052
Right.

00:42:55.052 --> 00:42:56.762
And I can't, and I wanted their opinion.

00:42:56.831 --> 00:42:58.021
And through that.

00:42:58.376 --> 00:43:00.646
True friendship advice, right?

00:43:00.646 --> 00:43:07.347
And not being the yes man, you know, they're, they're my respect for that person deepened, right?

00:43:07.387 --> 00:43:09.887
Because our friendship deepened, right?

00:43:09.887 --> 00:43:11.126
It wasn't just like, Oh, it looks good.

00:43:11.186 --> 00:43:12.206
Like I know they took that.

00:43:12.206 --> 00:43:12.706
I know.

00:43:12.706 --> 00:43:17.717
I mean, just by the critique, they wrote me one person gave a video testimony back saying, Hey, this was.

00:43:17.987 --> 00:43:23.847
So again, that's the formulation we want is to always be there for one another, for one another, for each everybody.

00:43:24.157 --> 00:43:25.967
So that's, that's the advice I have for that.

00:43:26.637 --> 00:43:28.257
And so I want you to repeat the question.

00:43:28.277 --> 00:43:28.967
So I don't go off.

00:43:28.976 --> 00:43:29.206
Sure.

00:43:29.847 --> 00:43:32.706
Um, how do you guys make it work as a couple running the show?

00:43:32.907 --> 00:43:41.447
I, you know, what it is is, first of all, as I agree with Peter, 100 percent in the sense of like having God at the center, right?

00:43:41.896 --> 00:43:48.697
Because so many times when people get into relationships, they just think, okay, me and you, and I have parts of me that are broken.

00:43:48.697 --> 00:43:50.097
My little girl has broken this.

00:43:50.717 --> 00:43:52.737
And so does your little boy.

00:43:52.757 --> 00:43:55.067
And like, we just want to be in a sandbox playing.

00:43:55.077 --> 00:43:59.586
Like that's all anybody wants is just to play together in the sandbox, really, truly at the core of it.

00:44:00.166 --> 00:44:10.237
But if we think that our partner is going to come in and rescue us, like this has been the narrative, especially for women, it's, it's problematic.

00:44:10.836 --> 00:44:14.856
Or having unrealistic expectations of each other.

00:44:15.186 --> 00:44:15.527
Right.

00:44:15.556 --> 00:44:17.126
And then putting all the onus.

00:44:17.126 --> 00:44:19.097
Well, you said this was going to work.

00:44:19.097 --> 00:44:20.376
So how come this didn't work?

00:44:20.416 --> 00:44:22.827
Like, this is really bad news, right?

00:44:22.927 --> 00:44:32.217
So I really believe that in order for any relationship, especially a marriage or long term relationship to be successful, that has to be that triangle.

00:44:32.436 --> 00:44:35.757
And it has to be God at the center because we're only human.

00:44:35.976 --> 00:44:38.146
We're going to let each other down, right?

00:44:38.286 --> 00:44:40.496
We're going to not know all the answers.

00:44:40.547 --> 00:44:42.646
We're going to screw up sometimes.

00:44:42.907 --> 00:44:56.786
And it's about having calling on together, something greater than you to intervene in your, in our lives, to intervene personally and in our marriage and being with somebody who makes me want to be better.

00:44:56.806 --> 00:45:04.077
I mean, so many people get married and they think, okay, well, you know, up the first year of marriage, you're going to gain a lot of weight and all this sort of thing.

00:45:04.077 --> 00:45:04.336
Right.

00:45:04.387 --> 00:45:10.817
And this is a farce because I'm with a partner who makes me want to become the best version of myself.

00:45:11.556 --> 00:45:15.956
Not to beat myself up, not to write, just to find more balance, to love myself more.

00:45:15.956 --> 00:45:17.657
So I need to do that work.

00:45:17.976 --> 00:45:26.456
And how is Jessica going to rescue herself and how is she going to share those findings with her husband and how, what could she see in him?

00:45:26.726 --> 00:45:27.947
What can I see in Peter?

00:45:28.077 --> 00:45:35.476
That's going to call him higher so he can reach his full potential because if he's reaching his full potential, I'm going to get closer to reaching mine.

00:45:35.476 --> 00:45:37.086
And what can we cultivate together?

00:45:37.117 --> 00:45:42.746
Can you give an example of seeing the best in each other and how that you would communicate with that?

00:45:43.126 --> 00:45:44.626
I'm pretty sure a lot of people would be wondering.

00:45:45.067 --> 00:45:50.527
So I remember just when we were seeing, so in terms of seeing the best in each other.

00:45:50.797 --> 00:45:56.556
So when I was first dating Peter, when we were first dating, I saw that he had like good ideas.

00:45:57.061 --> 00:45:58.431
But he was really quiet.

00:45:58.961 --> 00:46:01.402
He wasn't communicating them as much.

00:46:01.461 --> 00:46:13.061
He wasn't this not nearly as articulate, but I, and, and I, like, again, I see that he was a creative mastermind, but how do I help call this out?

00:46:13.492 --> 00:46:14.981
How do I extract this out?

00:46:15.021 --> 00:46:19.972
So instead of finding as a wife or a partner thinking about like, Oh, what did he do wrong?

00:46:19.981 --> 00:46:20.931
What did you do wrong?

00:46:21.472 --> 00:46:23.231
Changing my view lens, right?

00:46:23.231 --> 00:46:24.981
This is what was working on myself first.

00:46:25.791 --> 00:46:37.402
This is why self relationship with self and relationship with God is first, because when I started doing this for myself, I was able to do it with him in the sense of going, Oh, my gosh, that was such a good idea.

00:46:37.461 --> 00:46:37.692
Right?

00:46:37.692 --> 00:46:38.692
Just giving him praise.

00:46:39.132 --> 00:46:42.262
So there's different love languages that we've all heard about and talked about.

00:46:42.262 --> 00:46:42.561
Right?

00:46:42.952 --> 00:46:45.282
So I think we're all a combination of all of them.

00:46:45.661 --> 00:46:49.612
So when, when he was doing something good or could do something more, right?

00:46:49.702 --> 00:46:50.811
Calling him higher.

00:46:50.992 --> 00:46:55.891
Encouraging him a little bit, doing this even in front of other people, right?

00:46:55.891 --> 00:46:56.771
This encouragement.

00:46:56.771 --> 00:47:03.021
Whereas sometimes you see people that they've been married for such a long time and might like put each other, somebody down in front of another person.

00:47:03.532 --> 00:47:04.521
This is bad news.

00:47:04.942 --> 00:47:06.711
This is not the way that it's supposed to go.

00:47:06.731 --> 00:47:07.222
Right?

00:47:07.621 --> 00:47:12.911
So, so seeing those little things and being able to speak into them.

00:47:13.371 --> 00:47:16.371
So it's about first centering myself.

00:47:16.737 --> 00:47:27.306
Clearing my mind, my heart, getting myself into alignment, asking God, higher source, whatever you want to call it to interject in your life and in your day.

00:47:27.726 --> 00:47:28.067
Right?

00:47:28.626 --> 00:47:34.356
And then speaking that, experiencing that with your partner, sharing that.

00:47:34.641 --> 00:47:44.561
And then also inviting your partner into this, into this spiritual life, whether it's the holy box of the infrared sauna, like I like to call it, right.

00:47:44.561 --> 00:47:45.942
That's how it helps start for us.

00:47:46.362 --> 00:47:49.322
Or it's, we, you know, pray together every night together.

00:47:49.612 --> 00:47:53.211
Um, and then, you know, before we eat, we try our best with that.

00:47:53.211 --> 00:47:53.501
Right.

00:47:53.561 --> 00:48:01.612
So things of this nature, I think it's in just the little things and never forgetting to remember the other person.

00:48:01.612 --> 00:48:01.661
Yeah.

00:48:02.322 --> 00:48:07.882
If I'm putting toothpaste on my toothbrush, then I should be putting toothpaste on his toothbrush.

00:48:08.791 --> 00:48:09.291
That's cute.

00:48:09.512 --> 00:48:12.751
I'm telling you, like to me, those sorts of things, that's foreplay.

00:48:13.581 --> 00:48:14.371
That it is.

00:48:14.382 --> 00:48:14.871
Oh,

00:48:14.891 --> 00:48:15.612
so much toothpaste.

00:48:16.742 --> 00:48:16.771
But

00:48:17.101 --> 00:48:23.391
yeah, but like the little things that if you know your partner likes something and you're, and you're there, right.

00:48:23.431 --> 00:48:25.382
Everything is that little love note.

00:48:25.541 --> 00:48:29.311
So, and from there, the creative process happens.

00:48:29.322 --> 00:48:32.992
So I encourage couples to even everybody's different.

00:48:32.992 --> 00:48:33.922
They have a different path.

00:48:34.302 --> 00:48:40.632
But there is something beautiful, whether it fails or it takes shape into a different form.

00:48:41.032 --> 00:48:46.092
I encourage couples to try doing a business together because everything is business.

00:48:46.262 --> 00:48:49.052
Marriage is a business, a relationship with your dog is a business.

00:48:49.112 --> 00:48:50.021
Everything is a business.

00:48:50.561 --> 00:48:54.012
So change the way that we view business because we're already doing business together.

00:48:54.911 --> 00:49:11.661
But growing together and sharing this business, this collection of creativity, ideas of love, all of this, we've seen parts of each other that other couples never get to experience and we get to spend this time and really cultivate something.

00:49:12.512 --> 00:49:19.222
It comes from that heart posture of saying yes, and also an understanding that I'm not always right.

00:49:19.836 --> 00:49:24.637
And, uh, and I'm going to be, have to be called out to sometimes that's huge.

00:49:24.996 --> 00:49:26.856
That's huge on both sides.

00:49:27.306 --> 00:49:36.197
Um, I also, I noticed a theme, which is you guys both connect with God and the relationship with God universe.

00:49:36.646 --> 00:49:40.927
It's interesting how you said that because that was strong and healthy, it helped.

00:49:41.601 --> 00:49:46.242
You have a really good perspective of the person in the world outside of you.

00:49:46.481 --> 00:49:51.001
Do you mind going into how God is in your lives?

00:49:51.001 --> 00:49:55.871
I know you guys have, uh, special titles as well because of that relationship.

00:49:55.871 --> 00:49:57.052
Could you, do you mind diving

00:49:57.081 --> 00:49:58.052
into that a little bit?

00:49:58.311 --> 00:49:58.422
Yeah.

00:49:58.652 --> 00:50:01.172
So, um, so it's funny, right?

00:50:01.561 --> 00:50:08.211
So when Jessica and I first got together, uh, 12 years ago, um, where our 10 year anniversary is coming up in July.

00:50:08.661 --> 00:50:10.742
Um, but, uh, I was an atheist.

00:50:11.717 --> 00:50:11.996
Wow.

00:50:12.036 --> 00:50:12.496
Total.

00:50:12.626 --> 00:50:12.797
Total.

00:50:12.797 --> 00:50:13.547
Agnostic.

00:50:13.586 --> 00:50:16.677
I used to joke the magic man sky at the firehouse, right?

00:50:17.277 --> 00:50:18.586
So like, I still get razzed about that.

00:50:18.887 --> 00:50:21.981
Um, but you know, it's what you see.

00:50:22.472 --> 00:50:25.891
Once you see the creation, right, you can't unsee it.

00:50:26.481 --> 00:50:26.731
Right.

00:50:26.733 --> 00:50:30.072
And, and my, my journey, right.

00:50:30.072 --> 00:50:35.612
I was, I was raised, uh, sit, stand in the old Catholic church, um, which never really resonated with me much.

00:50:35.972 --> 00:50:38.351
And then, uh, I became a born again Christian.

00:50:38.351 --> 00:50:40.282
I was very strong in my faith about 16, 17.

00:50:41.351 --> 00:50:43.442
And then again, through schooling, right.

00:50:43.512 --> 00:50:45.652
I'm learning more and more about the science, right.

00:50:45.652 --> 00:50:47.172
And how evolution came to be.

00:50:47.181 --> 00:50:48.632
It's proven that, you know, that.

00:50:48.802 --> 00:50:52.851
We came from pond scum and then monkeys and fish that grew feet.

00:50:53.251 --> 00:50:57.251
So, uh, I, I said, well, science figured this out.

00:50:57.262 --> 00:50:59.021
How can God be real?

00:50:59.802 --> 00:51:02.902
And I disconnected through the education system.

00:51:03.431 --> 00:51:07.402
Um, and then again, coming full circle, right?

00:51:07.461 --> 00:51:10.782
12 years ago, Jessica was, was God's bait on the hook.

00:51:10.947 --> 00:51:11.237
Right.

00:51:11.266 --> 00:51:12.617
Cause her faith, right.

00:51:12.626 --> 00:51:13.407
It was strong.

00:51:13.797 --> 00:51:17.097
Um, and you're saying seeing the best things out of people and drawing on that.

00:51:17.097 --> 00:51:21.577
And she saw things on me and, and subconsciously maybe I saw things in her, right?

00:51:21.577 --> 00:51:29.947
I mean, obviously her beauty and her drive and determination, everything else in the 3d, but, you know, again, through her was my connection back to God.

00:51:30.367 --> 00:51:30.956
And.

00:51:31.527 --> 00:51:33.577
That connection grew and grew.

00:51:33.637 --> 00:51:38.277
And then when you start to look deeper and deeper, you start seeing this place that we're in, right?

00:51:38.277 --> 00:51:45.847
That's in perfect harmony and balance and, and, you know, the hummingbird and the bumblebee being unable to fly and the harmonics and the frequency.

00:51:45.847 --> 00:51:46.536
And it's all.

00:51:47.052 --> 00:51:51.202
Perfectly designed and it's impossible that it came in any other way.

00:51:51.592 --> 00:51:54.722
And so, you know, whoever you want to call your God is your God.

00:51:54.722 --> 00:52:01.541
But as long as you understand that you're not here by happenstance and you're here for a purpose and you're here to help and serve others.

00:52:01.572 --> 00:52:03.351
And that's the purpose, right?

00:52:03.351 --> 00:52:06.072
It's not to accumulate, you know, the most toys, right?

00:52:06.072 --> 00:52:07.452
It's not Yolo, right?

00:52:07.452 --> 00:52:09.782
You know, it's not, I'm only here once right here.

00:52:09.782 --> 00:52:11.661
We're here for lessons and for purpose.

00:52:11.722 --> 00:52:14.056
And, you know, What that is, right?

00:52:14.106 --> 00:52:14.907
Depends on deep.

00:52:14.907 --> 00:52:16.726
You go in with your journey, right?

00:52:16.726 --> 00:52:18.967
How much you want to focus on it, right?

00:52:19.036 --> 00:52:20.306
Or how much you want to grow.

00:52:20.336 --> 00:52:22.766
But we're here to learn lessons and to teach lessons.

00:52:22.766 --> 00:52:25.887
And as long as those are all in the positive Elm realm, right?

00:52:25.887 --> 00:52:27.016
We're going to ascend higher.

00:52:27.476 --> 00:52:29.206
And that's really what the purpose here.

00:52:30.206 --> 00:52:30.586
That's awesome.

00:52:30.757 --> 00:52:31.286
Well said.

00:52:33.641 --> 00:52:48.181
I said, it goes along with those titles you're talking about, like, you know, again, I don't know if you're referring to, uh, we're both ordained Reverend ministers, um, metaphysical ministers and we both actually just got our PhDs, um, recently and holistic life counseling and conscious living.

00:52:48.181 --> 00:52:52.922
So this is really become our lives on every level again to serve others.

00:52:53.052 --> 00:52:54.302
And you guys went

00:52:55.161 --> 00:52:56.992
full body into this, which is great.

00:52:57.231 --> 00:52:57.532
Yeah.

00:52:58.291 --> 00:53:00.382
I don't really know any other way.

00:53:01.012 --> 00:53:01.681
I feel like.

00:53:02.032 --> 00:53:18.942
You know, the most important thing with anything is love, but in order to, for one to get to that posture of love, because that sounds so simple, it's really fundamentally important to lead a transparent life, period.

00:53:19.231 --> 00:53:25.342
And that transparency comes with that relationship with God, comes with that relationship with self.

00:53:25.672 --> 00:53:26.472
So it's like, I'm.

00:53:26.981 --> 00:53:30.041
You know, whether I was a 20 year school teacher, I am a school teacher.

00:53:30.061 --> 00:53:32.461
I'm the same person in and out of the classroom, whatever.

00:53:32.731 --> 00:53:39.112
You know, if somebody went on my phone and, you know, went through my history, I would be safe, right?

00:53:39.152 --> 00:53:41.302
I'd be safe from each other safe together.

00:53:41.311 --> 00:53:44.661
That that's, that's the kind of transparency that I want to live.

00:53:44.911 --> 00:53:50.871
And I feel like my belief is that nothing is mine.

00:53:51.692 --> 00:53:54.992
Not my husband, not my dog, not my car, not this business.

00:53:55.032 --> 00:53:56.231
It's really not mine.

00:53:56.242 --> 00:53:57.751
It's all a gift of God.

00:53:57.972 --> 00:53:59.851
And I'm just a steward of it.

00:54:00.422 --> 00:54:04.802
So we're here to make manifest the glory of God.

00:54:04.802 --> 00:54:05.461
That's within us.

00:54:06.141 --> 00:54:09.902
We're here to live, to our, to align fully.

00:54:10.456 --> 00:54:10.786
Right.

00:54:10.817 --> 00:54:15.726
To align fully and to be this God story, right?

00:54:15.757 --> 00:54:17.007
Sometimes we're like, well, I don't know.

00:54:17.016 --> 00:54:18.567
I don't know how this business is going to last.

00:54:18.567 --> 00:54:20.347
We've had those times, right?

00:54:20.347 --> 00:54:23.887
We've had those times and it's literally in our own strength.

00:54:24.246 --> 00:54:25.567
Nothing could have happened.

00:54:25.617 --> 00:54:26.416
Nothing could have.

00:54:27.661 --> 00:54:28.782
It could have been here.

00:54:28.862 --> 00:54:30.172
The business couldn't have been here.

00:54:30.331 --> 00:54:36.161
Our marriage, we've had struggles in our marriage with everything, health, the kids, ourselves, et cetera.

00:54:36.521 --> 00:54:38.141
Who knows if we would have been together?

00:54:38.461 --> 00:54:40.121
Who knows if the business would have been here.

00:54:40.422 --> 00:54:48.461
So it's because of this higher belief than this, and also this ability to take that aligned action.

00:54:48.972 --> 00:54:54.442
That ownership and to show up for ourself and to show up for each other and to show up for our community.

00:54:54.452 --> 00:54:58.961
Because I believe that I'm here to help people on their healing journey.

00:54:59.827 --> 00:55:00.556
And that's it.

00:55:00.586 --> 00:55:09.197
And the healing starts from within seeing that you're, you're worth it and that you can re retrain and reframe your mind.

00:55:09.257 --> 00:55:11.916
You can change all those synapses.

00:55:12.036 --> 00:55:16.757
You can, you can upgrade your body that really you are the medicine, right?

00:55:17.007 --> 00:55:17.887
That's the name of my podcast.

00:55:18.186 --> 00:55:19.117
You are the medicine.

00:55:19.436 --> 00:55:22.067
You're the answer that you've been looking for all along.

00:55:22.286 --> 00:55:23.657
It's right inside of you.

00:55:23.907 --> 00:55:24.797
And so.

00:55:25.202 --> 00:55:26.762
You know, that's spirituality.

00:55:26.762 --> 00:55:28.262
That's where it aligns with me too.

00:55:28.262 --> 00:55:30.492
And I didn't grow up totally like this either.

00:55:30.492 --> 00:55:39.802
I came from a very spiritual family, a family of dreamers and seers, but, you know, very Catholic with like a little speck of something else.

00:55:39.802 --> 00:55:47.836
And, and then I grew up Pentecostal Christian and I could, I can recite a lot of the Bible.

00:55:47.847 --> 00:55:50.936
I mean, my relationship with God is, is deep, right?

00:55:51.016 --> 00:55:54.306
But it's also expansive, but the relationship

00:55:54.317 --> 00:55:54.786
with God, right?

00:55:54.788 --> 00:55:55.896
And that's, that's the key, right?

00:55:55.896 --> 00:55:58.657
It's not, it's not the story of the religion, right?

00:55:58.697 --> 00:56:01.697
It's not the dogma and the, and the parameters, right?

00:56:02.092 --> 00:56:03.842
Again, I'm, I'm a follower of Jesus.

00:56:03.842 --> 00:56:04.032
Right.

00:56:04.032 --> 00:56:06.442
But again, Jesus's message was love, right?

00:56:06.661 --> 00:56:09.922
Just Jesus's message was, was humanity in here, right?

00:56:09.922 --> 00:56:10.842
That's not in a box.

00:56:10.842 --> 00:56:11.931
It's not in a building, right?

00:56:11.931 --> 00:56:12.601
It's everywhere.

00:56:13.012 --> 00:56:13.382
Right.

00:56:13.601 --> 00:56:16.041
So that's where church is, right?

00:56:16.141 --> 00:56:18.722
Churches if two or more gathered, right?

00:56:18.722 --> 00:56:19.052
Yeah.

00:56:19.101 --> 00:56:22.851
You know, so again, it's, it's a very simple religion, right?

00:56:22.902 --> 00:56:24.672
Following Jesus is very simple.

00:56:25.052 --> 00:56:25.262
Right.

00:56:25.512 --> 00:56:28.581
So, uh, maybe I chose it for that reason in my reality.

00:56:28.581 --> 00:56:28.811
Right.

00:56:29.121 --> 00:56:30.532
This is the best one, right?

00:56:30.532 --> 00:56:31.342
This is simple and easy.

00:56:31.532 --> 00:56:31.762
I can do this.

00:56:32.251 --> 00:56:33.032
I can do this one.

00:56:33.032 --> 00:56:36.481
I, um, you know, I don't have to face East at 12 o'clock every day.

00:56:36.692 --> 00:56:40.311
Uh, I mean, but it's so simple and it's so beautiful.

00:56:40.967 --> 00:56:43.402
Cause it's just about love and understanding and acceptance.

00:56:43.402 --> 00:56:51.996
And I found that even with that background as, you know, uh, Pentecostal and, you know, Bible belt church sort of thing.

00:56:53.077 --> 00:57:03.056
Once I started though, learning about quantum science when I was 15, I started seeing the science of God and it excited me about God even more.

00:57:03.327 --> 00:57:04.257
It's like, oh my gosh.

00:57:04.496 --> 00:57:04.786
Yeah.

00:57:04.786 --> 00:57:08.686
In the Bible and all these religious texts, it says to pray, but literally.

00:57:09.001 --> 00:57:13.442
On a scientific level, like if we pray before we eat or even have our water, right?

00:57:13.442 --> 00:57:15.302
It changes the molecular structure.

00:57:15.302 --> 00:57:18.192
Like this is incredible, right?

00:57:18.231 --> 00:57:24.722
So like this, the science of God, like the experience, like the full experience of all this source energy.

00:57:25.112 --> 00:57:26.882
And that's why the shamanic way.

00:57:26.902 --> 00:57:28.052
I mean, I know it could get.

00:57:28.391 --> 00:57:29.371
An interesting rap.

00:57:29.371 --> 00:57:33.512
Sometimes, uh, you know, my mom being Pentecostal, it's like, well, what is this shaman thing?

00:57:33.512 --> 00:57:34.632
You know, what's yeah.

00:57:34.632 --> 00:57:35.652
Which doctor, whatever.

00:57:35.661 --> 00:57:47.271
It's like, no, there's over 200, 000 plants in the Amazon and 95 or 7 percent of all of our pharmaceuticals come from an isolate component of these plants.

00:57:47.831 --> 00:57:50.751
Like what, no, this is not a witch doctor.

00:57:50.751 --> 00:57:52.262
The, this is earth medicine.

00:57:52.481 --> 00:57:54.021
Like, and, um, it's not about.

00:57:54.617 --> 00:57:57.806
Worshipping the crystal or the tree or the whatever.

00:57:57.827 --> 00:58:03.617
It's like, these are all gifts from our creator that help us as human beings dive deeper.

00:58:03.626 --> 00:58:09.586
I mean, that's why God gave us a partner and other pleasurable and beautiful experiences, right?

00:58:09.757 --> 00:58:13.347
Like the Fibonacci sequence and all this sacred geometry that's there.

00:58:13.646 --> 00:58:20.556
Occurring in nature and with each other, because he wants to, he, she, whatever wants us to experience this beauty.

00:58:20.836 --> 00:58:26.916
And it's this beauty and this like one accord that brings through so much healing in our lives.

00:58:27.507 --> 00:58:31.967
So yeah, God is in everything and in everyone all at once.

00:58:32.036 --> 00:58:32.817
And it's awesome.

00:58:33.277 --> 00:58:34.027
And it's awesome.

00:58:34.077 --> 00:58:35.356
And it's not that serious.

00:58:35.376 --> 00:58:35.757
It is.

00:58:35.757 --> 00:58:37.456
And it's not like, if you

00:58:37.456 --> 00:58:39.336
want to make it serious and go to quantum science.

00:58:39.672 --> 00:58:41.641
And the real super science right now, right.

00:58:41.641 --> 00:58:43.532
It's all frequency, energy, vibration, right.

00:58:43.532 --> 00:58:46.202
That's what we are, which goes right back to Nikola Tesla, right.

00:58:46.512 --> 00:58:50.242
It's all frequency, energy, and vibration, which is every technology in this building, right.

00:58:50.242 --> 00:58:52.911
It's all frequency, energy, and vibration, because that's what we are.

00:58:53.132 --> 00:58:54.532
It's all frequency.

00:58:54.862 --> 00:58:57.697
It's all modulated that once people understand that, right.

00:58:58.027 --> 00:59:01.717
And there's negative frequencies that are programmed on all these things all the time, right?

00:59:01.746 --> 00:59:06.067
We may be aware of them, we may not be, but there are being programmed to us, right?

00:59:06.487 --> 00:59:06.847
Mm-Hmm.

00:59:07.266 --> 00:59:09.847
So if you're aware of them and can change your channel, right?

00:59:10.327 --> 00:59:11.436
things can get much better.

00:59:11.786 --> 00:59:16.586
I think for couples and for people in business, it's important to just think about, what's your word?

00:59:17.387 --> 00:59:18.137
What's your word?

00:59:18.137 --> 00:59:19.967
What's a word that you live by?

00:59:20.161 --> 00:59:20.442
Right.

00:59:21.291 --> 00:59:23.422
I want to say something about business because that was the question actually.

00:59:24.382 --> 00:59:27.121
I love being in business with my wife.

00:59:27.282 --> 00:59:27.601
Right.

00:59:27.731 --> 00:59:33.902
Um, because, uh, because literally before this, right, again, we loved each other.

00:59:33.902 --> 00:59:35.972
We're married, but you know, she was a full time school teacher.

00:59:35.972 --> 00:59:37.092
I was a full time firefighter.

00:59:37.231 --> 00:59:37.942
That was her life.

00:59:37.942 --> 00:59:38.172
Right.

00:59:38.172 --> 00:59:40.172
And just like most people have two different careers come home.

00:59:40.172 --> 00:59:40.652
Hey, how's your day?

00:59:40.652 --> 00:59:41.141
It was good.

00:59:41.407 --> 00:59:41.717
It's good.

00:59:41.887 --> 00:59:42.626
And nothing happened.

00:59:42.646 --> 00:59:47.847
You know, have school, nothing, you know, have dinner, go to bed, but you spend a life apart, right?

00:59:47.867 --> 00:59:51.706
Except for the weekend or especially where this is your Costco.

00:59:51.827 --> 00:59:52.126
Yeah.

00:59:52.126 --> 00:59:55.487
This, this, I mean, I don't care if you're making candles, right.

00:59:55.516 --> 00:59:56.597
Or, or something on this.

00:59:56.637 --> 01:00:02.896
I don't care what it is, but if you're doing a project with a partner and it's, it's a hobby, it's a project, it's a dream, right.

01:00:02.896 --> 01:00:04.007
And you're building it together.

01:00:04.007 --> 01:00:04.146
It's a hobby.

01:00:04.197 --> 01:00:07.757
You're constantly focused on something for yourself, right?

01:00:07.916 --> 01:00:09.177
It's not a future self.

01:00:09.197 --> 01:00:11.896
It's a now self because now is the moment that we're in.

01:00:12.106 --> 01:00:12.376
Yes.

01:00:12.496 --> 01:00:12.766
Right.

01:00:12.766 --> 01:00:16.077
This present moment is the only moment that matters, right?

01:00:16.106 --> 01:00:20.697
So if we can do something in this moment, right, talking with you is this moment, right?

01:00:20.697 --> 01:00:28.817
This moment, a week from now, a month from now, a year from now, somebody's gonna be watching this moment and hopefully gathering some information and changing their frequency.

01:00:29.442 --> 01:00:29.842
Yeah.

01:00:30.271 --> 01:00:35.331
And it's with that, when we're working together with our, with our partners, right.

01:00:35.331 --> 01:00:43.061
And with people, that's why a lot of our friends too are in business or just people that are like of this way that want to grow, right.

01:00:43.061 --> 01:00:44.081
That's how we met you.

01:00:44.702 --> 01:00:48.961
And so it's that we're, so this is my theory.

01:00:48.981 --> 01:00:51.442
We're either evolving or we're dissolving.

01:00:52.141 --> 01:00:54.141
A flower is either growing or dying.

01:00:54.581 --> 01:00:56.061
It's never staying the same.

01:00:56.472 --> 01:00:58.481
So it's the same thing with a relationship.

01:00:58.751 --> 01:01:04.001
If we're not actively working together on something positive.

01:01:04.612 --> 01:01:06.402
Then there's room to dissolve.

01:01:06.771 --> 01:01:08.472
There's room to grow apart.

01:01:08.842 --> 01:01:13.242
And so either we're working on growing together, or we're working on growing apart.

01:01:13.882 --> 01:01:21.351
And so, and that might seem like too black or white for some people, but I really think it's that fundamentally important when you work together.

01:01:21.592 --> 01:01:29.331
When you look at the, on a cellular level, going back to the other point is really thinking about your own personal word.

01:01:29.911 --> 01:01:32.992
What is a word or a feeling that drives you in your life?

01:01:33.731 --> 01:01:35.311
Like for me, it's love.

01:01:35.621 --> 01:01:37.862
But with that love comes freedom, right?

01:01:37.882 --> 01:01:40.911
That's like Moksha complete liberation from this life.

01:01:41.521 --> 01:01:41.911
Yeah.

01:01:41.952 --> 01:01:43.842
This is, um, I don't know where the camera is.

01:01:44.291 --> 01:01:44.402
Okay.

01:01:44.952 --> 01:01:47.742
Well, whatever it's, it's, uh, in Sanskrit, it's Moksha.

01:01:47.862 --> 01:01:48.021
It's

01:01:48.021 --> 01:01:48.101
a

01:01:48.311 --> 01:01:49.541
tattoo for anybody listening.

01:01:49.612 --> 01:01:49.942
Yep.

01:01:49.961 --> 01:01:55.637
And it's, It means a total liberation from even rebirth, right?

01:01:55.697 --> 01:01:56.717
Total liberation.

01:01:56.967 --> 01:01:59.007
And it's like, I want to feel free.

01:01:59.427 --> 01:02:03.027
I want to live a transparent life because I want to feel free.

01:02:03.246 --> 01:02:06.467
I want to, even if I'm in a system, I want to do things.

01:02:06.496 --> 01:02:07.586
I want to make decisions.

01:02:07.597 --> 01:02:09.427
I want to feel expansive.

01:02:09.436 --> 01:02:16.266
Even if I'm just having to clean the toilet at times, even while I'm doing that, I want to have a posture of freedom.

01:02:16.672 --> 01:02:17.981
And how do we get that freedom?

01:02:18.132 --> 01:02:23.711
Well, by living a transparent life, by learning how our own operating system works.

01:02:24.262 --> 01:02:32.422
So like, if I have a tendency for depression, I understand that my operating system, I like to start off in the morning with some sort of movement or meditation.

01:02:32.481 --> 01:02:32.862
I don't know.

01:02:32.862 --> 01:02:42.242
I say that I have an invisible Mary Poppins tool bag next to me, depending on the day or the moment I'll take out different slang tools or sound tools, whatever.

01:02:42.461 --> 01:02:42.811
Right.

01:02:42.851 --> 01:02:44.371
So knowing how to.

01:02:44.681 --> 01:02:51.871
Be that whisper for your own soul and how to seduce your own self into that sense of freedom.

01:02:52.222 --> 01:02:54.391
And that's why I want to live a transparent life.

01:02:54.391 --> 01:03:02.391
It's not necessarily because of my partner, but my partner encourages me to want those to have those feelings to bring them back.

01:03:02.692 --> 01:03:05.402
To have this go full circle, et cetera, et cetera.

01:03:05.572 --> 01:03:16.231
And that's why going back to the metaphysics, the degrees and the metaphysics, it wasn't just to check off a box it's because, well, I want to love my life.

01:03:16.302 --> 01:03:21.391
I love my life and I want to feel as free as possible.

01:03:21.612 --> 01:03:24.061
And so learning helps me feel free.

01:03:24.387 --> 01:03:27.027
And so it was just a by product of the learning.

01:03:27.456 --> 01:03:30.117
And also it's fun.

01:03:30.166 --> 01:03:32.106
I don't know if it's fun and it feels good.

01:03:32.117 --> 01:03:33.496
Then, and why not do it?

01:03:33.507 --> 01:03:38.646
Why not be fully embodied to fully throw ourselves into the deep end?

01:03:39.157 --> 01:03:50.606
So often we, even now, after 12 years, sometimes I play my own little emotional games where it's almost, sometimes I'm almost like afraid of getting close and I don't even understand why.

01:03:50.996 --> 01:03:57.016
On a very small cellular level, I can see it come through at times I could see it come through.

01:03:57.516 --> 01:04:07.567
So I'm constantly working on those things to evolve myself and to give me that sense of freedom and joy and love and beauty and all those things in our life.

01:04:07.567 --> 01:04:10.186
And just, we're on a journey together.

01:04:11.231 --> 01:04:13.072
So buckle up,

01:04:13.811 --> 01:04:14.081
buckle up.

01:04:14.391 --> 01:04:14.882
That's awesome.

01:04:16.311 --> 01:04:25.981
Um, lots of really cool dynamics going on between the research and being authentic and really just collaborating on a business.

01:04:26.012 --> 01:04:29.402
It's really cool to experience it and hear your stories.

01:04:29.632 --> 01:04:30.882
So I do appreciate that.

01:04:31.402 --> 01:04:34.661
Um, as we come to the ending part of the show.

01:04:34.663 --> 01:05:01.036
What are some things that you can share to, let's say the audience that is, let's say whether they're local to the Stanford, Connecticut area or, or not even, because I know that you're pretty expansive on the things that you do, is there anything that you are working on that's exciting for you that might be new for you that you would want to share, whether it's a retreat that's coming up or just something that you're, you know, Splashing around as an idea.

01:05:01.036 --> 01:05:01.887
I'm just very curious.

01:05:01.887 --> 01:05:10.547
Um, so, uh, we talked off camera, but, uh, and a little bit on, uh, the business itself is franchising.

01:05:10.867 --> 01:05:13.657
Um, so we've been open six and a half years here.

01:05:14.016 --> 01:05:18.007
Uh, we've developed everything you've experienced and saw it's literally.

01:05:18.876 --> 01:05:22.286
An incredible wellness center where, for the average person, right?

01:05:22.286 --> 01:05:28.836
They can, the modalities here are fantastic because they're automated in the sense that they're individualized.

01:05:28.896 --> 01:05:30.407
The infrared sauna, you go in by yourself.

01:05:30.407 --> 01:05:35.436
It's the technology that's doing, it's not a, or it's a couple, but it's not, it's not a therapist, right?

01:05:35.436 --> 01:05:39.166
There's no specialized skill necessary to open a whole healing oasis.

01:05:39.266 --> 01:05:44.547
So if our goal is our desire is that this is a Starbucks of wellness, right?

01:05:44.547 --> 01:05:48.597
That there's quotes everywhere and not because, oh, wow, we'll make a lot of money.

01:05:48.831 --> 01:05:49.001
Right.

01:05:49.001 --> 01:05:52.311
Because people need access to these technologies, right?

01:05:52.351 --> 01:05:56.132
To this, to, to everything here to refuel them.

01:05:56.452 --> 01:06:00.512
And not only do people need access to it, but, but individuals who want to start a business, right?

01:06:00.541 --> 01:06:06.492
Maybe a couple who wants to do something else has an opportunity in a business that gives back to people, right.

01:06:06.492 --> 01:06:07.742
And gives back to themselves.

01:06:08.106 --> 01:06:12.746
In the essence, I've never felt so fulfilled than being here and seeing our customers.

01:06:12.746 --> 01:06:15.027
Our guests are going, wow, I feel amazing.

01:06:15.027 --> 01:06:15.637
Oh my God.

01:06:15.637 --> 01:06:16.867
I needed that so much.

01:06:16.887 --> 01:06:24.327
Oh, it was like, it's, it's constant, like five star reviews because even my favorite restaurant, I've had a bad meal.

01:06:24.867 --> 01:06:27.257
Every sauna is always consistently perfect.

01:06:27.626 --> 01:06:29.536
It's exactly the same, right?

01:06:29.536 --> 01:06:31.257
It's just, Oh my God, I needed that.

01:06:31.257 --> 01:06:33.097
Cause your body just needs to stop.

01:06:33.556 --> 01:06:34.737
So, um,

01:06:34.766 --> 01:06:35.586
gives people hope.

01:06:36.007 --> 01:06:39.936
When you see people come in here, everybody has pain and stress and all that.

01:06:40.177 --> 01:06:45.266
When you see people come in here and, and, and they leave here, they just have hope again.

01:06:45.456 --> 01:06:46.226
They feel better.

01:06:46.226 --> 01:06:53.001
They have this hope and that's, That's the domino effect that we want to create as a culture.

01:06:53.101 --> 01:06:58.711
And so in that sense, we are disruptors, um, in a very positive way.

01:06:58.762 --> 01:06:58.972
Yes.

01:06:59.161 --> 01:07:07.021
So, I mean, if people are interested in that aspect, I mean, that should be ready about, about probably about a month, but they could reach out, just email and ask more information about it.

01:07:07.371 --> 01:07:08.851
Um, do you want to switch on retreats at all?

01:07:09.422 --> 01:07:09.751
Sure.

01:07:09.751 --> 01:07:12.371
And also like some of the services that we have over here.

01:07:12.371 --> 01:07:13.771
You were saying sure.

01:07:13.771 --> 01:07:20.322
Yeah, the, well, the Norse treatment that we have, that we developed, uh, that we hit Peter was talking about previously.

01:07:20.621 --> 01:07:22.342
Um, that's a beautiful device.

01:07:22.911 --> 01:07:26.331
You really have to come in here and see and experience everything.

01:07:26.331 --> 01:07:33.081
It's literally changed my life and saved my life as I was in so much pain and all of that, the retreats.

01:07:33.532 --> 01:07:33.771
Yep.

01:07:33.842 --> 01:07:37.001
So we take these retreats to Ecuador.

01:07:37.023 --> 01:07:41.121
Zoom back, we do three major things at HHO.

01:07:41.452 --> 01:07:45.831
One, we have all the dozen wellness biohacking technologies.

01:07:46.711 --> 01:07:49.021
The second is the room that we're sitting in today.

01:07:49.021 --> 01:07:58.282
It's called the center for consciousness, the CFC, where we host different events and workshops really to raise awareness, help, uh, move energy in your body.

01:07:58.731 --> 01:07:59.561
That sort of thing.

01:07:59.572 --> 01:08:19.252
Anything from cacao ceremonies, sound healing, yoga, Nidra to Tai Chi, et cetera, and then we, um, also take small groups on retreats to Ecuador, where we work with a shamanic community, a tribal community that has invited us in.

01:08:19.992 --> 01:08:23.152
And we go there to do.

01:08:23.631 --> 01:08:25.032
To learn the shamanic way.

01:08:25.462 --> 01:08:26.181
What does that mean?

01:08:26.492 --> 01:08:38.931
Connecting with yourself, with nature, with each other, through the use of psychedelic plant medicines and a very therapeutic in a very therapeutic setting.

01:08:38.981 --> 01:08:41.792
So this is not just like, okay, we're going to take mushrooms and that's it.

01:08:41.912 --> 01:08:42.341
Right?

01:08:42.612 --> 01:08:50.721
Like that's not the way because you're very suggestible while under these medicines and some of them you're, you're laid up for a minute.

01:08:51.351 --> 01:09:00.462
Um, so we're doing these medicines in a, in a safe container where we have guides.

01:09:00.681 --> 01:09:05.332
The shamans have been doing this since it was passed down to them from millennia.

01:09:05.742 --> 01:09:07.051
And this is their life.

01:09:07.051 --> 01:09:08.452
Like this is what they do.

01:09:08.832 --> 01:09:09.271
So.

01:09:10.096 --> 01:09:13.237
This kind of retreat is so transformative.

01:09:13.407 --> 01:09:22.527
I mean, like in three D we have absolutely no time to be bringing anybody on a retreat anywhere, let alone ourselves, but it was so impactful.

01:09:23.096 --> 01:09:24.587
This journey was so impactful.

01:09:24.617 --> 01:09:28.176
We saw so many lives transformed after the first retreat.

01:09:28.356 --> 01:09:29.686
It's like, you couldn't help it.

01:09:30.877 --> 01:09:32.027
First of all, it's like.

01:09:32.542 --> 01:09:38.872
You get to introduce somebody into a whole nother culture, a whole different operating system, right?

01:09:38.891 --> 01:09:43.692
So all we do as facilitators is we're holding space for everybody.

01:09:43.872 --> 01:09:47.731
We're basically the concierge to see are all your needs met.

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How can we help you?

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And we also help with integration to this is where our degrees came into play as well.

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Um, but.

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You're and we help to cultivate the retreat, but you're on a on a journey through through healing over eight days.

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So during the eight days, we do three different psychedelic plant medicines, ayahuasca, San Pedro, or also known as watchuma.

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Which is from a cactus from the masculine family.

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It's a, it's cousin is peyote and then psilocybin, which is the mushrooms.

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But then in between each of those psychedelic ceremonies, you have three different private ceremonies with different healers, body work, or energy work.

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Some people I'll say half of the groups that we've ever brought, maybe even a little bit more have said that that probably half have said that it was worth the price of admission alone.

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Those private ceremonies.

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And then we have other authentic Ecuadorian ceremonies like the Tama skull that is not psychedelic, but it's a sweat lodge and it's totally blacked out and we're in there for a couple of hours and it simulates womb healing and it's incredibly transformational.

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Wow.

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And we do other like excursions while we're there too.

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So it's not a commercialized ayahuasca trip.

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You don't just go plop down and then they pump you the medicine every night.

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And then you just kind of like hang out during the day and maybe swim in a pond or something.

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This is not how it is.

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Right.

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And you also have all the Western comfort.

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So your own room, your own shower, um, wifi still.

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We have our own restaurant, the surrounding area where 8, 10, 000 feet up in the Andes is completely safe high altitude.

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Yeah.

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High altitudes.

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It's completely safe.

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So you can walk around.

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We show you the lay of the land and the, the shamans and their, their partners, their husband, wife, they're with you the whole time.

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We're with us the whole time.

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By saying yes to the trip, we're helping to employ over 25 families and help restore this community after COVID they, you know, and just didn't have the funds to grow.

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So you're not only helping yourself, but you're literally helping to heal the planet.

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And this is a prophecy that happened where the, the, the South America, I'm probably going off too much, but, um, This was a prophecy from South America that, that the North and the South would, would connect and we're in the days of living out this prophecy of the eagle and the condor.

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Yeah.

01:12:19.032 --> 01:12:19.752
Wow.

01:12:19.851 --> 01:12:20.171
Wow.

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Way to way to end that.

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Yeah.

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And it was a prophecy.

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So we're just fulfilling

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it.

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Yeah.

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We have one spot left for our July, July retreat, which is July 5th through the 13th.

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Um, there may be a retreat forming in October and February.

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We're milling that out right now.

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Yeah.

01:12:35.442 --> 01:12:38.521
It looks like what, like every three months or so ish.

01:12:38.801 --> 01:12:40.292
No, actually twice a year.

01:12:40.292 --> 01:12:40.561
Yeah.

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Once

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or twice a year that it's been only once a year, like once every like six to 12 months.

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Um, so now we know that there's a July retreat.

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People tend to like that.

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We're depending on.

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The needs of people were, we're looking at either later this year, early next year.

01:12:57.292 --> 01:12:57.542
Wow.

01:12:57.542 --> 01:12:58.171
That's pretty cool.

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Well,

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yes.

01:13:00.862 --> 01:13:04.351
I'm like, where do I end it from there?

01:13:04.351 --> 01:13:06.032
I mean, that's, that's, that's

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awesome.

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There's a full detailed itinerary of everything just said on the website.

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So

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I think that's, that's really it.

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It's, you know, come see us if you're in the Stanford, Connecticut area.

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If not, we will definitely make it worth your time coming over here.

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Um, It's a healing playground.

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Like we said, many times, and it's fun when we even have workshops in here.

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You can do a service before or after, get your body and your energy system all tuned up and ready to go.

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You can follow us on social media at Hope Healing Oasis, uh, our Instagram page.

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You'll also be led from there to our sister page, the Center for Consciousness.

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on our website, we have a weekly blogs.

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We have our podcast called you are the medicine and, and we're here.

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So

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that's awesome.

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Yeah.

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Happy to meet you and see you and help you on your healing journey.

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Thanks for coming on.

01:13:54.913 --> 01:13:55.413
It was awesome.

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Thank you so much, Jonathan.

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You're incredible.

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Yeah.

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Jessica and Peter Scofield-Chichester

Owners of Haute Healing Oasis

Peter and Jessica “Power Princess” Scofield-Chichester are Stamford natives, with a passion to help their community become and stay healthy. Jessica is a Hall-of-Fame Powerlifter, former fitness model, instructor and teacher. Her career in health and fitness spans over 20 years, with multiple certifications and degrees. She has comprehensive knowledge in holistic remedies and other non-traditional methods that she introduces to the community, HHO and its members.

Peter has served this community as firefighter for over 25 years and has always strived to remain healthy, physically fit and active to make sure he was able to perform the tough duties that his career required.

Several years ago Peter suffered back injury while responding to a fire and his doctor recommended using an infrared sauna to help with the inflammation and pain. After doing extensive research, they purchased one. Not only did his back pain diminish, but they both experienced lower blood pressure, less pain and stress, better moods, sleep, better skin and hair, and lots of sweat aka, toxins removed!

With Jessica’s extensive knowledge of health and fitness and Peter’s business skills and love for his community, Haute Healing Oasis was born and continues to evolve using only the latest scientifically proven healing modalities to help you feel better on every level, naturally. Both Peter and Jessica are currently enrolled in their doctoral studies to further enhance Haute’s outreach in the wellness community with a 2022 completion date.