July 24, 2024

#96 Fear, Mindfullness and Procrastination | Scott Allen

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In this episode, we dive into the transformative journey of Scott Allen, a coach and author dedicated to unlocking human potential. Scott shares his personal experiences battling procrastination and self-sabotage, culminating in a life-changing move to Japan. We discuss key strategies for overcoming procrastination, the importance of clarity and small wins, and actionable advice for realizing your dreams despite fears and challenges. Scott also reveals his methods for maintaining focus and achieving consistent progress in personal and professional goals. Tune in to gain insights into mindset mastery and practical steps to transform your life.

Episode highlights

03:43 Scott's Journey: From Partying to Personal Growth 
07:07 The Decision to Move to Japan 
09:03 Synchronicity and the Hero's Journey 
18:47 Mindfulness and Overcoming Procrastination 
25:28 Reflecting on Procrastination and Entrepreneurship 
26:23 Creating a System to Tackle Procrastination 
27:37 The Importance of Clarity and Action 
31:32 Overcoming Fear and Breaking Down Goals 
33:33 The Challenges of Multitasking and Solopreneurship 
34:54 The Journey of Writing and Publishing 
44:49 Building Trust and Momentum 
48:00 Final Thoughts and Future Plans

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if you want to avoid.

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Looking back with regret, then you have to do the things that really scare you because yeah, there are no guarantees of success, of course, but the only guarantee of failure is not doing anything with your life.

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synchronicity, inner voice, intuition.

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when you make that decision, the transformation started.

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today.

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We have Scott Allen and I'm going to give you a little bit of background.

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Scott's mission is to unlock human potential.

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I definitely want to get into human potential, Scott.

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I love that topic.

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He brings over 10, 000 hours of research and practice in confidence, development, and mindset mastery.

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Scott Allen.

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Welcome to the show.

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Thanks for coming on, man.

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How's it going?

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It's great to be here.

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Thanks for having me on the show.

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Looking forward to great conversation.

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Yes, I'm ready.

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Let's go.

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You just came from Japan and we were just talking about like jet lag and having to 13 hour flights You definitely need to unlock some human potential to be able to handle that and be able to do what you're doing which is going on podcasts and Talking about your book and and I guess being at the forefront of this Just transformation, human transformation.

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I feel like what were your thoughts, the, the, uh, what are your thoughts on?

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Like, just, I feel like the human transformational, like success mindset, that industry is boosting right now.

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What are your thoughts?

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Yeah, I definitely think it is.

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Um, I'm not sure if it's always been boosting, but I find that it's in a better position these days more than it ever has been for people to, you know, transform their lives.

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And, uh, This can be, you know, transforming your life from a mindset perspective, or even from a physical perspective.

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In other words, you could move to the other side of the world if you want to, or you can stay at home and you can create something online.

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You can still connect with the world.

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So I think the transformation side of things, it's a, it's a decision as well, which we can get into a little bit later.

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That was, uh, I think it was an active decision I made years ago to change my life, which I've done several times.

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And it's probably how I ended up in Japan.

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I've been here for about 25 years, but it really was a journey of transformation and transformation is a bit of a sexy word.

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It sounds like it's a, you know, it's a, you know, interesting, fun, adventurous journey.

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And it is that stuff, but it's also going through a lot of growth pains as well to get there.

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So.

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You know, it's interesting because, and I think I say it's interesting because like in every episode, like this is just like the first five minutes, but I say that, um, yes, you're absolutely like, I, I 100 percent am on the same page with you because Especially with social media, a lot of, a lot of the times people don't share the growth period and you have to hop on a podcast to actually like talk about that growth period.

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And that's why I like talking to someone like you where we get to peel back the onion and the layers and talk about that story so that we know that it wasn't all Fun and games where it's like you don't just decide you want to transfer, you know, transform and change your life.

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And then, and then that's it.

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It's, it's like, it's the hero's journey.

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You have to go through some shit.

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And you started to allude to that.

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So I want to go into that.

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What, um, what started your journey to just be that coach, that strategist.

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That's a tongue twister there.

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And, um, Does it have to do with going to Japan?

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It leads up to going to Japan.

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So let's go back a few decades, maybe actually.

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So, so I'm from Canada originally and way back in the day, I think I was really into just doing a lot of partying and drinking and, and that was really fun for a while until it, uh, wasn't.

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And then when I tried to stop that lifestyle and this lifestyle at the time, probably when I was back in my.

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I guess earlier 20s, you know, for about, uh, yeah, in my 20s.

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Anyway, I was really into just a lot of that and, uh, um, had a lot of fun, but then when I wanted to stop the partying and the drinking, I couldn't, and, uh, When I tried to do that, I realized that I had this pattern of, you know, self sabotage, where it's just like, I would try to stop this, uh, you know, chaotic behavior of, um, you know, messing up my life again and again.

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And then I would stop for a little while, go back into it, stop for a while, go back into it.

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And when I finally got, uh, serious about it, well, I ended up in the hospital one too many times.

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And, you know, the doctors were like, if you come back here again, it might be the last time.

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And.

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For a lot of people, maybe that would get them thinking seriously about, um, stopping that, uh, you know, kind of behavior.

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But, uh, for me, it didn't.

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But what did bother me was living the rest of my life in the dark.

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like that.

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And, uh, there's something in me that just wanted to change.

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Like the transformation wasn't, uh, I wouldn't say it was a decision.

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There was just, there was something inside of me that really did want more out of my life than just what I was putting into it.

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And so I did eventually get some real help, got some sponsors and coaches and I got some people on board and they started showing me a different way of life.

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And the thing is, is like once the fog starts to clear and you start to see that there is a.

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Different way to live your life.

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You want more of that, right?

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And I did like I started to see that there was a different way to live.

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And once I started to get clear and sober and had clarity around what the hero's journey could actually look like, then I started reading these books on self help.

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And I remember one of the first books I read was Tony Robbins book, Awaken the Giant Within.

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I was in a bookstore one day, just walked in and I was looking for a new book to read because I was really hungry for this information.

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And there it was.

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And.

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read through it in a week or so.

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It's a pretty big book.

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And, um, you know, I started writing up my goals and I made a vision board and I started having a, a vision for this, you know, potentially like this new life.

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And part of it was, um, I think I wrote down my goals and one of my goals was I wanted to be an author, which is something I've wanted to do since I was a kid.

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And.

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The second thing is I wanted to travel the world, which was a new one because I'd never really had that as a goal before, but I'd never been anywhere before.

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And I was like, wouldn't it be interesting if I were to like, travel to Thailand and Vietnam and like, I made a list of all these countries that I wanted to, you know, um, go to.

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And so my vision board started to have pictures of all these places.

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And I started putting together this weird little, um, collage of, you You know, ideas and concepts and, um, you know, a lot of like, what ifs, like, what if, uh, I were to do this and, uh, the possibility started growing and this is where the transformation started to come because I got into the point where I realized, okay, like, wow, what if I were to actually do this thing?

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And then I just made the decision that, I'm going to do this thing.

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So I literally said, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to move to the other side of the world and I'm going to do it a year from now.

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And it wasn't going to Japan at that time.

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It was really just, I'm just going to move to, you know, I'm going to sell my car and my stereo.

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And that was really like all I had.

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So I didn't have a lot to get rid of, you know, but I did have a, you know, did have a career and a job and stuff like that and friends and family.

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But, uh, I was like, no, I'm going to do this thing.

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And the thing is when I made that decision, the transformation started to.

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I mean, what I mean by that is, you know, things started to appear synchronistically.

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I started to meet people who had done these things before and, you know, every time I would meet someone and they would share their story with me, I'm like, yeah, that's what I really want.

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So, um, you know, I had like, I gave myself a year to prepare and what actually ended up happening is about.

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I don't know, three or four months into my, you know, um, building my plan.

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I came across a job opportunity in Japan.

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I, I found this ad in the newspaper one day, just as I was scrolling through it, not scrolling through it, probably, I guess, breezing through the pages, you know, uh, we didn't even have internet back then.

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So there wasn't scrolling, there wasn't much scrolling done, you know, but, uh, yeah, I was browsing through the paper and, uh, found this ad and it said, yeah, supply now, teach English in Japan, and I just thought, That's a great idea.

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And I remember just taking a day to put together this resume and a fancy letter and, uh, set it off.

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And, um, next thing I knew I was in downtown Vancouver having this interview with this Japanese businessman who owned these schools overseas in Japan.

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And he was hiring people to, you know, bring them over and set them up.

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And I don't know, something about that, just like intuitively speaking, there was something like, I just knew I was on the right path.

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I didn't.

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I don't know the job, yet something inside me said, you're going to get this job.

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You're going to Japan.

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You know, it's like this, I don't know, inner voice.

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And I was like, okay, well, if that's the way it's going to be, that's the way it's going to be.

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I'm going that way anyway.

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Uh, yeah.

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said a lot of really interesting key words and phrases.

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Hmm.

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Mm

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synchronicity, inner voice, intuition.

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Um, when you make that decision, the transformation started.

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And it, it, and this is like the world that I work to help people live in.

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Where it's like you well before I even like I don't even go into me.

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I want to go into like You you had you were on your your your hero's journey, right?

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You made that decision and then things started to open up and I wanted to if if we were to have like binoculars or like a pause button and we can kind of like zoom in Csi style and kind of like refresh and kind of like get more clarity about like that period of your life I think that's huge and key.

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Um I think my grammar is all jacked up, but What some, what were some of the things that you did that helped you be more confident in those decisions and those sites of opportunities?

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Because myself, and I'm pretty sure you're similar, I come from a place of overthinking, over analyzing, and what ends up happening is you have a lack of clarity and you miss a lot of opportunities and these synchronicities are happening all around you and you miss them.

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I'm very curious, how did you maintain that ability

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Mm

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aware of the synchronicities?

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And if you don't mind, if you can remember, can you share one of them?

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Yeah, exactly.

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So yeah, looking back on that.

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I created I had to create the The dream before I was actually living in it.

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So in other words, you know, I had this plan to move overseas and I had the, I had no idea what that looked like.

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I mean, I'd never really been to another country before, but I had to build that, uh, vision in my mind as if it were already happening.

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So here's, here's something that I did.

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One thing that I did, I would go to the library or the bookstore.

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I would get more books on, uh, for example, how to, how to speak Thai or how to speak Vietnamese, right?

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And I would actually bring these books home.

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I remember they were, they were these little pocket books like that Burlesque used to put out.

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And what's interesting, years later, when I came to Japan, I ended up working for Burlesque for 20 years and that became one of my best friends.

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main jobs actually was, uh, doing cultural training, more of a later story, but that ties in with, you know, it was just interesting how I started learning these languages from these little Berlitz books I found in the bookstore.

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And, um, the reason for that is like, I had to, um, convince myself that this wasn't just a fairy tale that I was creating.

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Like I was really doing this thing.

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So it was like this unwavering, Decisionless commitment that was so deep that it was just unbreakable, and I had to create that in my mind.

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So, my roommates would come home after, you know, they were after work or after partying, and they're like, What are you doing?

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And I'd be like, you know, it'd be like midnight, and I'd be on my living room floor surrounded by all these books and, uh, speaking these weird languages and

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You nerd!

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Apes and stuff like that.

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Yeah.

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They're like, okay, you know, we knew that he was going to stop partying, but this is going a little bit too far, you know, cause you know, they were out there doing their thing and I was kind of like building this, my own little world.

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Right.

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So it was more than just having a vision board.

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I think that's a, that'll take you so far, but I did have to actually spend time immersed in that world, you know?

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And so, uh, the other thing he did is I, I joined this, um, it's like this weekly club that would meet up and these people would talk about their, uh, their traveling and these were people who had already been overseas and they were already traveling and they wanted to connect with people who, I guess they really missed it.

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So they were connecting with people who, uh, uh, you know, had already like gone overseas and had these adventures and I don't know, it was just kind of this club I joined, but I was one of the, you know, People in the group who actually hadn't been anywhere.

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So I was really just again.

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I just wanted to like something just, um, brought me into that group, you know, and, but, but then he would share the stories with me.

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And I would say, yeah, you know, I'd like to go to, you know, Bali and Australia.

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And I had this like list of all these places.

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And every time I would mention that, then somebody would say, oh, I've been there and you should go check out data.

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So I was just like, you know, collecting information as well.

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But every time I did, it was just like another, I think it was like another dot on the, uh, I guess if you, if you think of it as like, you know, a connector dots kind of thing, it was like every time I met somebody or I heard something, it was like connecting another dot that was moving me forward.

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Right.

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So everything that was happening was just, um, I felt like it was just, I Lining everything up, but the breaker really was when I found that opportunity in Japan and probably about again, you know, we're talking like two or three months into this decision that I made and I had the interview and then probably a couple weeks later, I got the job.

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Now, when that happened, I had about six or seven months to prepare because they had hired us probably like in October of 97 and we weren't leaving until March.

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Right.

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But that was the thing is like once it was a done deal, then there was no going back.

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Right.

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And now I had a plan.

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Now I had a commitment.

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Now I had a company that was invested in, you know, bringing me overseas.

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And, uh, it was good that I actually knew it way ahead of time.

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Cause it gave me more time to repair, um, as well, you know, but that was just the thing is like, I think none of this would have happened.

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Right.

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If, uh, just going back, uh, you know, like six months previously, if I hadn't made that decision to, uh, you know, do this thing and here's just one more quick little story to, um, at the time I was living in Vancouver, I am from Halifax originally and so when I finished university, there weren't any jobs around.

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So, you know, I was living at home with mom and dad.

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Um, I was working in the local pub and I, you know, I had a, you know, Uh, and electrical engineering degree and it's like nothing I could really do with it.

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So my friend out in B.

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C.

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said, Hey, why don't you come out here and, you know, look for a job?

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There's lots of jobs out, out here.

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And again, going back, uh, even before like going to Japan and all that, way before that, Um, I had to, uh, pack up all my stuff, leave my friends and family and move out West.

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And that was actually more of a scarier thing.

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But here's the thing, like the process was the same thing.

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Um, when my friends said that I made a decision like, Hey, I'm going to move out West and I don't know anybody, but I'm going to do it anyway.

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And I literally didn't know anybody.

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Right.

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And I'd never been anywhere that's had my little town, my little world.

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And so I was more of a, Probably afraid at that time to really venture out of my comfort zone and do anything.

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But here's the thing.

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I made the decision.

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I was going to do it.

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Mom and dad were all in because they didn't want me living at home till I was 15.

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So, uh, you know, I think you may have even bought me the plane ticket.

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I remember, you know, but, but I think also like really, they wanted me to, you know, succeed and get out there into the world and see what it's all about.

00:16:01.258 --> 00:16:01.577
Yeah.

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Here's a plane ticket.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

00:16:05.732 --> 00:16:07.533
So that was just like, you know, it's like that.

00:16:07.533 --> 00:16:11.413
And it was like, so I had proven myself previously that I could do this thing.

00:16:11.413 --> 00:16:13.673
You know, once I make a decision, I follow through.

00:16:14.212 --> 00:16:15.673
You don't know what the outcome is going to be.

00:16:15.702 --> 00:16:18.722
And that's the thing is like, I think what holds a lot of people back.

00:16:18.722 --> 00:16:20.342
So like, well, you know, I might do this thing.

00:16:20.352 --> 00:16:21.302
It might not work out.

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And, and all that is true.

00:16:23.682 --> 00:16:32.783
But the thing is, If I hadn't done anything, if I had just stayed in my, you know, my, my safety zone and just, uh, you know, not taking a risk.

00:16:32.783 --> 00:16:47.793
Well, I don't know how things would have turned out, but all I can tell you is that where I'm at right now, looking back, I'm like, thank God I did those things, you know, and I think that's one of the things where, you know, if you want to avoid.

00:16:48.477 --> 00:17:00.398
Looking back with regret, then you have to do the things that really scare you because yeah, there are no guarantees of success, of course, but the only guarantee of failure is not doing anything with your life.

00:17:00.427 --> 00:17:04.327
And by that, I mean, everybody has to, they have to frame that up, you know, however way they want to.

00:17:04.327 --> 00:17:09.538
I'm not saying, you know, everyone has to move the other side of the world and start a new life and all that, but.

00:17:09.928 --> 00:17:15.528
Um, my intuition at the time, my intuition was telling me this is the way this is the path.

00:17:15.698 --> 00:17:18.637
And I do remember I was reading Joseph Campbell's book at the time.

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I think that was one of the books that I was going through.

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I remember thinking, wow, this is kind of similar to what I'm experiencing.

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And now when I look at it, when now, like I still have the, you know, still have the book, it's a big book.

00:17:29.857 --> 00:17:30.587
It's a big read.

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But when I read through it now, it just makes total sense to me.

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Right.

00:17:34.178 --> 00:17:37.147
So, um, anyway, I just want my favorite books.

00:17:37.238 --> 00:17:37.597
Yeah.

00:17:37.972 --> 00:17:41.752
I bet you the read now is going to be a completely different book.

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Mm, yeah.

00:17:43.413 --> 00:17:45.143
Or the audiobook, which I even like better.

00:17:45.782 --> 00:17:46.462
Yeah, yeah.

00:17:46.653 --> 00:17:50.002
I love the audiobooks when it's the author that says it, that's

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Mm hmm.

00:17:51.202 --> 00:17:51.553
Right?

00:17:51.553 --> 00:18:02.242
Cause it's, uh, I think on a deeper energetic level, if it's the person who wrote it speaking, um, more of the life of the book, more of the message of the book comes through.

00:18:02.252 --> 00:18:22.803
So, um, there's some books that, um, I'm not sure if you're familiar with David Wilcock, but he, he, he's written a couple books, but he goes, he goes into, he's got like a whole book on synchronicity, um, and it's amazing how you, you know, you have, you're an author and you, you write a book and then, um, if the longer the book, the longer you're going to be recording your voice.

00:18:23.633 --> 00:18:24.143
Mm hmm.

00:18:24.748 --> 00:18:32.428
Um, uh, so I, I hope if, if you haven't already, I hope that you, um, do the audio if for your book.

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Um, and then at the same time, uh, I also know that there's people saying, well, you know, um, AI is going to be able to read all your books.

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So blah, blah, blah.

00:18:43.627 --> 00:18:46.718
But there's this energetic thing behind it for sure.

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And, and do you use a lot of like, um, energy and mindfulness in your, in, in, in your strategy sessions with people?

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I'm, I'm curious because one key thing that pulled from just introducing you was unlocking human potential.

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And, and, um, maybe those are aligned.

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I used a lot of, um, well, we'll call them grounding techniques, I think, but, uh, the mindfulness, deep breathing exercise and, uh, eating well, like eating better.

00:19:16.553 --> 00:19:24.542
I used to, um, eat a lot of junk food and sugar and I've always been rather like into exercise and I go to the gym all the time and things like that.

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And sometimes it's really hard for me to get to the gym because I'll procrastinate before getting there.

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But these are all things that tie into, um, keeping.

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My mind and my body and my, you know, my spiritual essence, just present in the moment, right?

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So I rarely like worry about things.

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And when I do catch myself worrying about things, I remember like, Oh, well, this is part of the journey.

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You know, you're not supposed to, you know, like if you're worrying about something, it's maybe there's a problem or the, you need to solve, or maybe you just need to leave it alone.

00:19:55.813 --> 00:19:56.202
Actually.

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Sometimes that's.

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The best way to solve a problem sometimes is to just leave it alone and let the, it is, yeah, yeah.

00:20:04.458 --> 00:20:06.008
And I do that all the time.

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I'll start worrying about, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't have enough money for this and what am I going to do?

00:20:09.928 --> 00:20:17.968
And then suddenly, um, I remember, uh, you know, my old training will say, just let the universe handle it, right?

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It's bigger than you are.

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Let the universe handle it.

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And when I come back to that, um.

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I can just let it go.

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Right.

00:20:26.032 --> 00:20:35.873
But it's one of those things where, you know, you have to, I have to continue reminding myself that, um, you know, we're not here to worry about stuff.

00:20:35.873 --> 00:20:42.272
I mean, there's always stuff we can worry about and, you know, fret over and like what, you know, in the end, like, is it going to work out for me?

00:20:42.462 --> 00:20:43.482
Am I going to be okay?

00:20:43.492 --> 00:20:57.107
It's like, well, if you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, and you're just showing up every day and working at it, then it's You know, good things are going to come and that sounds a little bit woo, but it's actually just the way I roll into every day, you know?

00:20:57.157 --> 00:20:59.357
Um, I'm not huge on planning.

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Yeah.

00:20:59.788 --> 00:21:00.218
Yeah.

00:21:00.617 --> 00:21:01.857
We're all about the woo here.

00:21:02.137 --> 00:21:02.587
Yeah.

00:21:02.778 --> 00:21:03.577
Don't hold back.

00:21:03.738 --> 00:21:04.678
So I am in the right place.

00:21:04.738 --> 00:21:05.147
All right.

00:21:06.278 --> 00:21:06.627
Yeah.

00:21:07.657 --> 00:21:11.728
But, um, I don't do a lot of like lifestyle planning, but.

00:21:13.127 --> 00:21:17.968
I do believe in that, uh, you know, there is a, there is a bigger plan.

00:21:17.968 --> 00:21:18.958
There's a bigger picture.

00:21:19.548 --> 00:21:31.728
And I think that if we're to go back to the hero's journey, a lot of the, uh, the journey was really like, you know, it was certainly there's, there's challenges along the way, but that's where the good stuff is.

00:21:31.738 --> 00:21:40.897
It's like when it is challenging, um, when it's difficult, you know, I think a lot of people, when life gets difficult, they start to, um, complain about stuff.

00:21:40.938 --> 00:21:42.018
They started to complain about.

00:21:42.448 --> 00:21:44.038
People and their friends and their family.

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And why aren't things working out?

00:21:45.938 --> 00:21:55.557
And it's like, well, how do you know they're not working out just because it didn't work out today doesn't mean it's not going to work out next week or, you know, and you have to frame what that means.

00:21:55.557 --> 00:22:00.738
Like, what does it mean for your life to be, you know, for you to have your ideal lifestyle?

00:22:01.018 --> 00:22:11.843
And I think it's important to have a vision for how you want that to unfold because, um, although I said, I'm not big on planning, I do have, um, A plan for, you know, say the next year, right?

00:22:11.843 --> 00:22:22.173
I mean, I have my goals set up and I'm working towards those because if you don't have those, your plan is going to become a default plan that's going to be controlled by somebody else.

00:22:22.863 --> 00:22:33.113
So that was just one of the things I may have picked out from Jim Rowan or Tony Robbins back in the day, but I think it goes something like, you know, if you don't have a plan for your life, somebody else does.

00:22:33.663 --> 00:22:37.113
And I just, um.

00:22:38.083 --> 00:22:38.603
Don't like that.

00:22:38.603 --> 00:22:43.492
I just wanted to have, you know, control over my, you know, life's destiny, right?

00:22:43.512 --> 00:22:44.442
As much as I could.

00:22:44.442 --> 00:23:03.182
I mean, I think there's a certain level of control we don't have, but, uh, if I can influence anything along the path, whether it's a decision I have to make or an action at the take, and I think those are things we can always do, then, you know, I'll just figure out or not figure it out with something that I just know that this is something I need to do.

00:23:03.212 --> 00:23:04.173
So I'm just going to do it.

00:23:04.877 --> 00:23:19.077
And, um, it might be one of those hard things, by the way, you know, do the hard things first, might be one of those hard things I have to do that I've been avoiding, but once I take action on it, then, you know, I can clear that obstacle and move on to the next thing.

00:23:19.107 --> 00:23:19.468
So.

00:23:19.877 --> 00:23:25.698
It seems like, um, what you were talking about was, like, literally overcoming procrastination.

00:23:26.518 --> 00:23:27.157
Hmm.

00:23:27.498 --> 00:23:33.377
the, uh, the main thing about that, like you said, if you don't make a decision, someone else will.

00:23:34.057 --> 00:23:34.647
Um.

00:23:35.192 --> 00:23:42.042
Do you have any tips and techniques that, um, you can suggest with somebody that's dealing with procrastination?

00:23:42.053 --> 00:23:52.583
Because we live in a, in a world of, a world of abundant decisions and abundant excuses, right?

00:23:52.952 --> 00:24:00.167
And, um, It's interesting, you have one person that has, uh, more excuses than, um, reasons.

00:24:01.067 --> 00:24:02.998
And, you know, two people, right?

00:24:03.548 --> 00:24:11.857
Same background, just one person has less energy behind the, uh, excuses.

00:24:12.428 --> 00:24:20.728
And, you know, the other person soars, uh, so I'm very curious about it, because that's what you specialize in, helping people with overcoming procrastination.

00:24:21.198 --> 00:24:22.597
Um, what are some tips?

00:24:24.178 --> 00:24:35.907
Yeah, and I think the, um, specializing in procrastination really just comes from my own personal struggle with it and which is experienced with, you know, and we all procrastinate over to some degree.

00:24:36.438 --> 00:24:39.317
Now, Um, there are varying degrees of this as well.

00:24:39.718 --> 00:24:44.557
My level of procrastination was more if there is such a thing as chronic procrastination.

00:24:45.167 --> 00:24:56.238
I will put off things that are detrimentally damaging to, could be my financial being, my future, you know, things that need to be done that I'm avoiding.

00:24:56.508 --> 00:24:59.268
And we all may do this again to a certain extent.

00:24:59.827 --> 00:25:04.988
But giving an example, um, maybe not filing for your taxes, even though you're supposed to by law.

00:25:05.117 --> 00:25:05.887
I'm not saying I didn't.

00:25:05.887 --> 00:25:08.127
I always have filed my taxes, of course, and all that.

00:25:08.508 --> 00:25:09.048
For the record,

00:25:09.748 --> 00:25:11.438
yeah, yeah, for the record, exactly.

00:25:12.048 --> 00:25:21.298
But there are many instances where, over the years, I would push it off to the degree, to the degree where, like, I'd start to Put all my stuff together two days before it was due, right?

00:25:21.298 --> 00:25:24.647
And they have to stay up late for 48 hours working on this thing.

00:25:24.647 --> 00:25:28.307
And, and that I do not recommend right now.

00:25:28.307 --> 00:25:29.548
I could have avoided that.

00:25:29.548 --> 00:25:34.438
But when I look back over the course of the year, my plan was to show up at the end of every month.

00:25:35.557 --> 00:25:35.907
together.

00:25:35.907 --> 00:25:38.067
So at the end of the year, I didn't have to do that.

00:25:38.528 --> 00:25:42.907
And yet I did it for two or three years in a row, especially after I quit my full time job.

00:25:42.907 --> 00:25:45.647
And I went, um, as you know, an entrepreneur.

00:25:45.647 --> 00:25:49.897
And that was, uh, an exciting, you know, that's an exciting journey.

00:25:50.518 --> 00:25:53.147
But you have to realize that you also have to do your own taxes.

00:25:53.157 --> 00:25:56.758
So that was not a strength of mine was organizing this stuff.

00:25:57.018 --> 00:26:23.298
Anyway, I'm just using this as an example of, um, where I realized that at the time I had such a deep level of procrastination around things that I really didn't want to do that are really uncomfortable that, um, uh, you know, it was just, it was for me to get over that actually required, um, For me to actually write things down step by step.

00:26:23.298 --> 00:26:24.028
So here's what I did.

00:26:24.417 --> 00:26:37.157
Um, I actually went through and when I put together the do the hard things first book, I made a list of all the things that I was putting off, like things that I unfinished tasks, you know, work like it doesn't matter if it was a room that had been left.

00:26:37.438 --> 00:26:49.407
Uncluttered or I did not declutter it, whatever it was like, you know, a drawer that had all like a bunch of papers in it, whatever it was that I could find that was in chaos, I would just put it on my list as a thing to do.

00:26:49.998 --> 00:26:58.807
Now I had a long list of all these things and it was actually the greatest, the great thing about making that list, I realized is that it gave me clarity.

00:26:59.137 --> 00:27:11.163
So depending on who you talk to, I think that the reason that people Most people procrastinate is out of fear, but it's also a lack of clarity as to what they should be doing next.

00:27:11.163 --> 00:27:11.462
Right?

00:27:11.893 --> 00:27:19.752
So again, I had to make this list where all this stuff that was just unfinished in my life, it was actually living in my head.

00:27:19.873 --> 00:27:20.522
And that's the thing.

00:27:20.522 --> 00:27:22.833
And that's where that creates a lot of anxiety.

00:27:22.873 --> 00:27:24.593
You don't see it, but that's where it is.

00:27:25.103 --> 00:27:27.042
And, um, you know, anxiety.

00:27:27.042 --> 00:27:32.133
And then you've got, uh, you know, the, the fear of, um, like you just know.

00:27:32.532 --> 00:27:36.932
You have all this stuff to do and you're just putting it all off and you know, maybe just watching TV all the time.

00:27:37.583 --> 00:27:43.393
So what I did is I had my list and then I started to just, every day I would pick one thing on the list to do.

00:27:43.423 --> 00:27:55.442
Now it wasn't always the hardest thing on the list, but at this stage I just needed to take action on something because although it was very prolific, I think, and like when it came to writing books and putting books out there, like that's something I could do.

00:27:56.738 --> 00:28:00.637
Relatively easily, actually, because I, um, created a system for it.

00:28:00.637 --> 00:28:01.847
I trained myself to do this.

00:28:01.847 --> 00:28:13.377
So that part of the, you know, my lifestyle was good, but over here there's other stuff that I was just completely avoiding, you know, like, and you can do with like finances and, and there's the whole list of things, right?

00:28:14.028 --> 00:28:23.738
Um, and when I realized that I was avoiding those things, I thought, okay, well, what if I were to actually pay attention to this area of my life that I'm avoiding and.

00:28:24.167 --> 00:28:27.198
When I did start to pay attention to it, I put together an action list.

00:28:27.198 --> 00:28:30.738
Like, uh, I realized I had to learn certain things to get good at something.

00:28:31.167 --> 00:28:34.417
Now there are some things that, um, on this action list, by the way.

00:28:34.847 --> 00:28:40.488
Um, one of the reasons we procrastinate is because we don't know how to do something and we don't always want to ask for help either.

00:28:40.498 --> 00:28:40.807
Right.

00:28:41.428 --> 00:28:46.958
And there are things on the list where it's like, I don't want to do this thing, but it has to be done.

00:28:47.018 --> 00:28:47.468
Right.

00:28:48.117 --> 00:28:48.548
So.

00:28:49.343 --> 00:28:50.623
Does it have to be done by me?

00:28:50.663 --> 00:28:53.863
No, I could actually hire someone to do this thing.

00:28:54.232 --> 00:29:03.353
I mean, I could hire someone to organize my files or, you know, um, help me out with my taxes or whatever it was, whatever the thing that I was getting stuck in.

00:29:03.712 --> 00:29:10.633
There's gotta be a way to get it done because that's the thing too, is people always think, well, maybe, you know, I'm the one that has to do this thing, but no.

00:29:10.972 --> 00:29:12.553
The goal is to get the thing finished.

00:29:12.792 --> 00:29:14.972
It doesn't matter if you have to hire someone to do it or not.

00:29:14.982 --> 00:29:16.823
And I outsource things all the time in my business.

00:29:16.853 --> 00:29:18.452
And there's a lot of things that I don't want to do.

00:29:18.782 --> 00:29:22.712
So I will just, uh, you know, if I have enough cashflow, I would just outsource it to somebody.

00:29:22.712 --> 00:29:26.442
So, um, I guess my tip though, for, you know, if you're.

00:29:26.903 --> 00:29:28.252
Um, really procrastinating.

00:29:28.363 --> 00:29:35.593
And again, we all do this to a certain degree, but really it just comes down to, um, you don't have to really figure all the whys, like, you know, why am I procrastinating?

00:29:35.603 --> 00:29:36.303
It doesn't matter.

00:29:36.313 --> 00:29:40.123
The thing is, you are, so just make a, make a short list.

00:29:40.123 --> 00:29:41.502
I mean, I had a list of hundreds of things.

00:29:41.542 --> 00:29:45.942
Maybe you just have five things on your list and then just pick one thing on that list.

00:29:45.972 --> 00:29:47.492
It's just like project management too.

00:29:47.742 --> 00:29:52.542
You got a project, you need to know the action steps required to move forward towards this project.

00:29:52.542 --> 00:29:52.792
Maybe it's.

00:29:53.327 --> 00:29:56.518
One thing a day, one thing a week, and now you've got clarity.

00:29:56.538 --> 00:29:58.298
And again, clarity is the key.

00:29:58.548 --> 00:30:04.067
Having it down on paper, you know, sure you can type it up in your computer, but I mean, I don't know.

00:30:04.077 --> 00:30:05.667
We get so many digital files in there.

00:30:05.667 --> 00:30:16.798
I prefer to just have it, you know, on paper, on a checklist, and then I'll just keep it on my desk and then it's there in my space, like the vision board that I would use to, uh, you know, get from here to there.

00:30:17.117 --> 00:30:20.018
Well, the action list that I have, all these things that I'm putting off.

00:30:20.643 --> 00:30:29.002
Um, it's like a big to do list, really, but I mean, it's better to have that than to have nothing, or to have it all swimming around in your head, you know, where things get lost, so.

00:30:29.057 --> 00:30:29.788
I agree.

00:30:29.827 --> 00:30:30.438
Yes.

00:30:31.067 --> 00:30:34.708
When you're trying to remember everything What what is that?

00:30:34.708 --> 00:30:49.613
Um phrase a uh, A short pen is better than a long memory or something like that or something like that where it's just like The mind is amazing, but it's not that amazing.

00:30:49.732 --> 00:30:49.873
hmm.

00:30:50.823 --> 00:30:51.242
Yeah.

00:30:51.323 --> 00:30:53.202
we have a limited, a short term memory.

00:30:53.583 --> 00:30:58.093
Um, you can't just shove everything in there and you can only grab so many groceries on the way to the car

00:30:58.512 --> 00:30:59.202
Mm hmm.

00:30:59.262 --> 00:30:59.803
the house.

00:31:00.282 --> 00:31:00.633
Right.

00:31:00.673 --> 00:31:03.613
I, I think I've tried to fit like 10 bags at once.

00:31:03.613 --> 00:31:06.222
I'm like, never again, my fingers are gonna fall off.

00:31:07.593 --> 00:31:15.893
And that's like, that's how I usually say to people, like, you know, when you're trying to like, just remember everything, uh, when, with your clients, I'm curious.

00:31:17.042 --> 00:31:31.913
Is there anything that is, or what's the most common thing that they run into that you're seeing with, with procrastination as like a reason or just like a thing more recently that people are running into?

00:31:33.133 --> 00:31:41.917
Depends on what they're working on, but for the most part, um, They're afraid to take action on something because, uh, they think they might fail at it.

00:31:41.928 --> 00:31:47.048
So actually, let's use, uh, I coach a lot of people on, um, the book publishing process, actually.

00:31:47.577 --> 00:31:52.688
So one of the things that we procrastinate on in this process is actually writing the content.

00:31:52.758 --> 00:32:00.647
Because, yes, it is hard to do this, but, uh, if you just break it down into little steps, like showing up, uh, my process is very simple.

00:32:01.208 --> 00:32:08.377
Um, know what you're writing about, show up every day for one hour, Write a thousand words or 500 words and do that for 60 days.

00:32:08.397 --> 00:32:09.377
And you've got your book done.

00:32:09.938 --> 00:32:12.018
Now it sounds easy when I say it.

00:32:12.288 --> 00:32:20.678
And actually, when you break it down into small steps, you can write a manuscript in 60 days, or you can build a business or whatever it may be.

00:32:20.678 --> 00:32:20.948
Right.

00:32:20.948 --> 00:32:38.282
So, uh, we just, uh, take, uh, the goal, which is, you know, again, just, I'm using to write a book as an example, but you can use it for anything, break your goal down into, um, Daily steps of just, you know, like little, I guess baby steps, little tasks that they can take.

00:32:38.313 --> 00:32:43.772
Because again, uh, the one thing that they get stuck on is moving forward because it's very overwhelming.

00:32:43.778 --> 00:32:52.833
And I think that's one of the reasons, uh, another reason we procrastinate is because we get overwhelmed with all the things that we, you know, like, how am I gonna make this whole thing work?

00:32:52.833 --> 00:32:58.563
And again, if, uh, if someone has the, you know, their goal is to, I know, well, let's just say, you know, to build a.

00:32:58.778 --> 00:33:04.837
A digital business, whatever it is, or they they're putting together something that just requires a lot of steps.

00:33:04.857 --> 00:33:08.097
You know, again, coming back to like, probably basic project management as well.

00:33:08.097 --> 00:33:09.548
You know, got a big project.

00:33:09.548 --> 00:33:10.288
Where do you begin?

00:33:10.837 --> 00:33:11.198
Right?

00:33:11.278 --> 00:33:21.258
Um, they just get really overwhelmed by this and then overwhelmed leads to anxiety and then they start to shut down and, uh, Do other things, which really is procrastination is probably the default.

00:33:21.278 --> 00:33:22.387
That's that's the escape route.

00:33:22.397 --> 00:33:25.137
That's the path of least resistance, right?

00:33:25.218 --> 00:33:33.208
Um, because that's the path that we know, you know, so we tend to just say, okay, well, look, you know, like, you don't have to have this whole thing figured out right away.

00:33:33.208 --> 00:33:38.873
You're just going to show up tomorrow and you're going to, you know, uh, Time blocking is not a new thing.

00:33:38.873 --> 00:33:55.173
So it's just like, you know, block this into your time or just put yourself on a timer for like one hour, 30 minutes, but now you're locked in, you're focused on this one thing, and now you can just do this, you know, show up every day and just do a little piece of it, right?

00:33:55.282 --> 00:33:56.532
And you just do it that

00:33:56.623 --> 00:33:57.893
guys, one thing at a time.

00:33:58.613 --> 00:34:00.073
Yeah, one thing at a time.

00:34:00.502 --> 00:34:01.702
Yeah, multitasking.

00:34:01.702 --> 00:34:03.103
I've done that many, many times.

00:34:03.133 --> 00:34:04.423
I still struggle with it, actually.

00:34:04.462 --> 00:34:05.133
Multitasking.

00:34:05.143 --> 00:34:07.462
Because, again, multitasking leads to overwhelm.

00:34:07.673 --> 00:34:10.342
Overwhelm leads to procrastination, you know.

00:34:10.402 --> 00:34:11.893
And then procrastination leads to,

00:34:12.112 --> 00:34:13.273
I agree.

00:34:14.063 --> 00:34:16.202
Yeah, so, yeah.

00:34:16.902 --> 00:34:33.782
Um, but yeah, I mean, so it's not really, I mean, there's a whole, like, there's a, there's a deeper level of psychology behind, uh, you know, putting things off and, and all the stuff that, and, and the end of the day, it's really just comes down to like, you know, knowing what you want, knowing, uh, you know, having a plan to get it and then showing up every day and working on the plan.

00:34:33.813 --> 00:34:35.563
It's like those three things right there.

00:34:37.112 --> 00:34:37.483
Agree.

00:34:37.483 --> 00:34:37.862
Yeah.

00:34:38.313 --> 00:34:42.983
So, um, yeah, multitasking, not my forte.

00:34:43.398 --> 00:34:46.197
I completely agree with one thing at a time.

00:34:46.208 --> 00:34:48.608
Even if you have the skill of multitasking, right?

00:34:48.608 --> 00:34:54.427
Like when you split too many things apart, you lessen the quality of each thing that you do.

00:34:54.478 --> 00:35:44.032
And if you wanted to create an amazing book, I like your idea, obviously because it works, and it makes total sense, and applying that to many other things where it's like, you know, create a deadline, and then work your way back, and I hear that a lot, but, sometimes a lot of times you need someone like yourself to help strategize what that looks like with something that you know that works instead of spending hours and hours of time on youtube university trying to figure out who's got the best way right who's got the best way so you have this you have your book doing the hard things first um it's like it reminds me of ripping the band aid off

00:35:44.373 --> 00:35:44.382
hmm.

00:35:44.382 --> 00:35:45.568
Mm hmm.

00:35:46.717 --> 00:35:49.938
do you have an audio version of it yet?

00:35:50.938 --> 00:35:53.108
I do actually, yeah, I have two versions of it.

00:35:53.108 --> 00:35:56.737
One was read by me, one was read by someone else when it first released.

00:35:57.097 --> 00:36:01.538
The version read by me hasn't been released yet, but that's the second edition of the book, actually.

00:36:02.157 --> 00:36:04.277
So, um, I do have versions of that.

00:36:04.608 --> 00:36:12.498
I do, like, I have, uh, you know, 35 to 40 titles, so I haven't done the audio versions for most of them, probably, just for the sake of time.

00:36:12.498 --> 00:36:17.748
I outsourced a lot of them, but I'm starting to, uh, you know, uh, record these myself, actually.

00:36:17.748 --> 00:36:18.052
Let's see.

00:36:18.213 --> 00:36:25.353
Uh, not using AI, um, but, uh, actually, uh, you know, real people doing real things, real voices.

00:36:25.353 --> 00:36:36.523
So I have nothing against the, the AI is probably that's, uh, not to go off topic, but I think, um, Amazon is now, they actually have that capability where they're, uh, they've got the AI.

00:36:36.827 --> 00:36:42.788
Technology installed on the back end of Kindle Direct Publishing where you can actually record your book with AI.

00:36:42.847 --> 00:36:44.427
I have not used that yet.

00:36:44.427 --> 00:36:46.538
I've been invited to the beta testing for that.

00:36:46.547 --> 00:36:57.338
So I guess maybe that's just an idea of where things are going, you know, but interestingly, like what you had mentioned is, you know, putting the emotion into it and those kinds of things.

00:36:57.338 --> 00:37:00.307
I've tested a little bit and it's rather, um, It's good.

00:37:00.307 --> 00:37:02.807
It's just that in a year from now, that could be the norm.

00:37:02.818 --> 00:37:26.057
Who knows, you know, but Hey, I mean, if, um, I can get the AI to record it in my voice, because it's just going to take a sample of this and take the whole recording and put it together with the inflections and the intonations and everything, and, uh, you know, that'll be, um, that's a big time saver, especially for somebody who's, you know, in the creativity space where we're trying to get, uh, a lot of things done, um, as fast as we can and get them to the market.

00:37:26.057 --> 00:37:26.387
So,

00:37:26.527 --> 00:37:26.818
Yeah.

00:37:26.967 --> 00:37:29.257
Do you work with a lot of, uh, solopreneurs?

00:37:29.268 --> 00:37:31.327
A lot of people that don't outsource that much?

00:37:31.793 --> 00:37:32.143
Hmm.

00:37:32.623 --> 00:37:35.083
I do, um, not work with them, but I learned from them.

00:37:35.092 --> 00:37:39.193
So I think, um, right now I'm going through the creator NBA by Justin Welch.

00:37:39.222 --> 00:37:40.643
Uh, just amazing creator.

00:37:40.643 --> 00:37:49.583
But, uh, you know, if you look at a lot of his stuff, like I think he, he said, even in his trainings, he has one part time virtual assistant and his wife helps out with this business and.

00:37:49.583 --> 00:37:52.233
You know, he does, um, multi millions a year, right?

00:37:52.532 --> 00:37:53.873
But he's got a great system set up.

00:37:53.873 --> 00:37:55.972
So he's, uh, in the solar printer space.

00:37:56.003 --> 00:37:58.523
Um, Dan Coe is another one as well.

00:37:58.543 --> 00:38:00.393
So I like learning from these people too.

00:38:00.393 --> 00:38:02.282
I watched a lot of their, their videos.

00:38:02.282 --> 00:38:12.347
I read, you know, read their blog posts and I learned from their trainings because, um, uh, I've, um, I've created a business that's rather right now.

00:38:12.347 --> 00:38:15.438
It's like, yes, I do have a virtual assistant part time.

00:38:15.467 --> 00:38:20.418
I have my partner who's taking care of the accounting and the taxes and doing lots of things in the back end.

00:38:21.027 --> 00:38:32.992
Um, but I'm still very overwhelmed in my day to day because, um, Um, either I need to stop doing so many things, which may be hard for me to do, or I need to, uh, hire more people to do these things.

00:38:33.023 --> 00:38:38.663
And when you hire more people, you add a little more complexity to your business because now it's like, well, who's going to manage those people?

00:38:38.663 --> 00:38:49.333
Is it me, which probably is not my strength, and I think as a solar preneur wannabe, in other words, I'd like to be just be in my space working on the things I want to be working on.

00:38:49.827 --> 00:39:06.563
Um, I probably just need one or two more people on board to, uh, you know, free up your time because by the way, buying back your time, I had this discussion with my life coach today, like buying back your time is one of the, um, It's a critical goal for me, like, really to do it.

00:39:06.563 --> 00:39:09.822
Dan Martell, by the way, has, like, Buy Back Your Time, that book.

00:39:10.182 --> 00:39:11.213
I live in that book.

00:39:11.273 --> 00:39:12.143
Amazing book.

00:39:12.882 --> 00:39:20.333
Going off topic a little bit, but the whole thing about the, um, I guess we're going back to procrastination and getting things done and doing the hard things first.

00:39:21.862 --> 00:39:32.152
One of the reasons that I would procrastinate is because I had so many things to do that no matter how good I tried to get at multitasking, which I'm not, I'm not really sure if it's a skill at all.

00:39:32.152 --> 00:39:36.563
I just convinced myself that if I just tried it hard enough, I could actually get really good at this thing.

00:39:37.182 --> 00:39:47.143
which I didn't, uh, I would just end up, you know, spinning all kinds of plates in the air and, um, you know, 30 minutes on this 20 minutes on this and, you know, checking email five times a day.

00:39:47.143 --> 00:39:56.443
And anyway, the whole, um, I'm not a productivity guru or anything like that, but, uh, I learned a few things about just, you know, putting my business together mostly through failings.

00:39:56.523 --> 00:40:15.393
I think, you know, just failures along the way, which is all part of the hero's journey to, you know, um, But, uh, you know, I'm sure like, uh, back in the day when they would jump onto a ship and head off for the land, I'm sure they had a few holes in the boat along, you know, they hit a few storms, you know, on the, on the ocean, you know, so.

00:40:16.023 --> 00:40:16.612
Yeah, right.

00:40:16.612 --> 00:40:31.083
You have to, whether it's a boat ride or slaying the dragon, then meeting the guru, then trying to understand the guru, fighting yourself to get past the, the lessons that the guru can't give you.

00:40:31.452 --> 00:40:35.902
And then, um, coming back home and saying, look, look, I, I slayed the dragon.

00:40:36.003 --> 00:40:37.293
I've become a different person.

00:40:37.293 --> 00:40:39.012
And then your whole world changes.

00:40:39.963 --> 00:40:43.262
I just love that because I feel like everybody can identify with it.

00:40:43.998 --> 00:40:48.668
And, and to your point, yeah, I mean, isn't that the goal, right?

00:40:48.728 --> 00:40:55.217
I mean, procrastination is, uh, behind of a lot of decision making to get to your goal.

00:40:55.737 --> 00:41:03.438
And, yeah, to your point, it's really good to free up time so you can live a little bit, have some breathing space.

00:41:03.788 --> 00:41:07.677
Especially if you're a creator, you're gonna need to live a little.

00:41:08.097 --> 00:41:08.503
And, yeah.

00:41:08.862 --> 00:41:14.632
To think out of the box, at least for me, I got to do something that is illogical.

00:41:15.003 --> 00:41:17.572
Like what I did that was illogical.

00:41:17.663 --> 00:41:20.628
Um, being, uh, transparent.

00:41:20.938 --> 00:41:30.458
I stayed out a little later last night and that's why my voice is a little deeper because, uh, as the music gets louder, uh, you need to speak a little bit louder for a little bit longer.

00:41:31.773 --> 00:41:31.913
For

00:41:31.938 --> 00:41:36.547
then, um, just having conversations with people like, Oh, just live a little dah, dah, dah.

00:41:36.547 --> 00:41:41.168
And, um, today normally, um, like things were going wrong.

00:41:41.177 --> 00:41:43.777
My Bluetooth wasn't connecting to the PC.

00:41:43.777 --> 00:41:44.708
I'm like, Oh crap.

00:41:44.777 --> 00:41:46.443
Like the, I had like that, that, that.

00:41:46.583 --> 00:41:54.242
Uh, wireless keyboard, but because I lived a little more than usual, uh, it was just, all right, cool.

00:41:54.242 --> 00:41:55.233
Let's just flow with it.

00:41:55.552 --> 00:41:55.972
Right.

00:41:55.983 --> 00:42:12.233
Just, just being you being excited for the moment, being excited for the connecting, um, you know, to connect with you, Scott, uh, I'm just excited right now to just learn from you, your experience, your slate, the dragon quote unquote story, right.

00:42:12.742 --> 00:42:18.282
And just going into Japan, just leaving home, right.

00:42:18.282 --> 00:42:20.097
Going out West, then just, just.

00:42:20.617 --> 00:42:24.498
Starting anew and not having any regrets.

00:42:24.538 --> 00:42:28.547
And now you have your business, you're helping people, you have your books.

00:42:29.057 --> 00:42:31.447
Um, you're doing a lot and you've learned a lot.

00:42:31.827 --> 00:42:35.148
And like you just shared, your journey continues.

00:42:35.148 --> 00:42:37.617
It doesn't stop, you know.

00:42:38.447 --> 00:42:49.418
And it started with just being on the floor with a bunch of books and your roommate saying nerd, or you know, whatever, you know, I'm joking around, but depending on the time period, it's a different phrase.

00:42:49.447 --> 00:42:52.157
And it's like that challenge that you had to overcome.

00:42:52.157 --> 00:43:07.873
So, uh, it's very inspiring to hear someone like yourself, knowing where you're at now, and then knowing where it came from, where you just had to make that decision to say, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, this new life.

00:43:07.922 --> 00:43:10.693
I'm tired of waking up in the hospital.

00:43:10.722 --> 00:43:24.213
You know, I'm sure you had those moments in the past and um, That was your your slay the dragon, you know, and and it's pretty cool to to hear your story and To digest your your tips and stuff.

00:43:24.213 --> 00:43:33.532
So anybody that's listening or watching Definitely check out Scott Allen, his book, doing things, doing the hard things first.

00:43:34.193 --> 00:43:38.623
Um, is that, would you say that's your latest book that you're really focusing on right now?

00:43:39.887 --> 00:43:40.807
it's not the latest book.

00:43:40.807 --> 00:43:41.038
Actually.

00:43:41.038 --> 00:43:43.757
Well, the books, um, it's actually turned into a series.

00:43:43.768 --> 00:43:45.217
So there's three books in the series.

00:43:45.217 --> 00:43:47.958
The fourth one actually is coming out.

00:43:47.998 --> 00:43:50.547
Um, we'll be putting it in pre order next week.

00:43:51.097 --> 00:43:55.228
Uh, book four in the series is on how to defeat shiny object syndrome.

00:43:55.228 --> 00:43:55.947
That might be a different

00:43:56.432 --> 00:43:57.012
Squirrel.

00:43:57.407 --> 00:43:58.407
Yes, exactly.

00:43:58.407 --> 00:43:59.088
Yes.

00:43:59.228 --> 00:44:09.068
But yeah, I would say the, uh, the first book, I am, I mean, To be honest, I just put the book together back in 2021, coming out of COVID, really bad year for a lot of people.

00:44:09.387 --> 00:44:13.128
I hadn't published anything, you know, I thought my business was finished.

00:44:13.157 --> 00:44:22.648
Um, and, uh, I just had an idea for this book and I thought I'd put it together in about 60 days and I just put it out there without any expectations.

00:44:22.657 --> 00:44:23.427
So.

00:44:24.932 --> 00:44:33.572
Three years later, um, yes, it started to get picked up by publishers and, um, it was, I wasn't planning for success with this book, to be honest with you.

00:44:33.943 --> 00:44:40.163
I don't even think it's my, the best book I've read, I've written, but, uh, it seems to be the one that a lot of people have gravitated towards.

00:44:40.193 --> 00:44:49.862
I think because, uh, again, cause the first book is focused on overcoming procrastination and all that is something that they can gravitate to where they can relate to it.

00:44:49.893 --> 00:44:56.108
You know, they can relate to the pain point and people want to get, um, Beyond that, right?

00:44:56.307 --> 00:45:02.887
So one thing that the book actually does, like it doesn't, I didn't really hone in on this too much in the first edition of the book.

00:45:02.907 --> 00:45:06.277
But what it really is about is yes, overcoming procrastination.

00:45:06.288 --> 00:45:13.157
But when we do that, when we overcome that thing, what we're really doing is building trust with ourselves.

00:45:13.208 --> 00:45:18.858
And that's one of the things I noticed is that when I was putting all these things off, like when you do this.

00:45:19.083 --> 00:45:30.182
You're actually deflating your own personal trust with yourself like you, you know, you don't trust yourself because now you think, you know, you're a big loser because you're not doing the things you should be doing to move your life forward.

00:45:30.182 --> 00:45:35.003
You're putting things off and you're failing and, you know, you're just not going to build trust with yourself that way.

00:45:35.003 --> 00:45:43.983
So you need to get those small wins, which is one of the things I talk about in the book a lot is like, you know, you don't have to have a big win right out of the, right out of the, You know, right out of the game.

00:45:43.983 --> 00:45:46.202
You just, you got to get those small wins first.

00:45:46.202 --> 00:45:46.512
Right.

00:45:46.842 --> 00:45:48.663
So that's why I was saying like, make that list.

00:45:49.063 --> 00:45:50.443
Hey, choose the easiest thing on the list.

00:45:50.443 --> 00:45:52.112
It doesn't matter as long as you get something.

00:45:52.112 --> 00:45:55.353
And so, you know, start moving forward because momentum is the key.

00:45:55.353 --> 00:46:05.313
So anyway, that was kind of a long answer to your question, but yeah, that book's not, the book's been out there for a few years, but, um, we do have, uh, plans for actually six books in the series.

00:46:05.322 --> 00:46:05.342
Yeah.

00:46:05.663 --> 00:46:20.163
Because, um, when I started to brainstorm more ideas around this, I realized I couldn't put everything in one book anyway, and I started to get requests from people to do, um, like other topics around the, um, you know, around the title actually.

00:46:20.163 --> 00:46:27.143
So I think it was, um, you know, one of my publishers made a recommendation and, uh, the more I looked into it and I did the research, it made sense.

00:46:28.472 --> 00:46:29.342
Okay, cool.

00:46:29.382 --> 00:46:42.027
Well, yeah, if you got a book you want to write, or some books you want to read, and you tend to be an over thinker, a procrastinator, or you just want to move fast, out to Scott Allen.

00:46:42.697 --> 00:46:47.418
Now, what's the best, if you were to choose like one main way to connect with you, what would be the best way?

00:46:48.382 --> 00:46:50.992
Probably they can go to scottallenpublishing.

00:46:51.032 --> 00:46:51.472
com.

00:46:51.483 --> 00:46:52.902
We have a website on there.

00:46:52.932 --> 00:46:56.003
Um, it's a relatively new website.

00:46:56.052 --> 00:46:59.902
I, uh, had several websites over the years, but that's, uh, the most recent.

00:46:59.952 --> 00:47:01.262
And we also have scottallenbooks.

00:47:01.293 --> 00:47:02.702
com as we have the Shopify store.

00:47:02.702 --> 00:47:04.882
We're selling everything directly.

00:47:04.963 --> 00:47:06.222
Um, yeah.

00:47:06.373 --> 00:47:07.833
And it's live.

00:47:07.833 --> 00:47:09.333
It's just that we're still putting a few things.

00:47:09.342 --> 00:47:12.773
Well, we're always building on things, things on there and launching new products and stuff like that.

00:47:12.773 --> 00:47:14.632
But yeah, either one of those websites is fine.

00:47:14.643 --> 00:47:19.483
We have a contact page where you can reach out to me there at Scott Allen at scottallenpublishing.

00:47:19.512 --> 00:47:20.922
com is the email address.

00:47:21.643 --> 00:47:24.922
And of course, people can go to Amazon if they want to check out the books as well.

00:47:25.443 --> 00:47:30.483
Um, and depending on the book you're looking for, it may be available in multiple languages.

00:47:30.492 --> 00:47:30.882
So

00:47:31.818 --> 00:47:33.108
Nice, right?

00:47:33.148 --> 00:47:33.648
Global.

00:47:33.657 --> 00:47:34.208
Let's go.

00:47:35.137 --> 00:47:36.097
Yeah, especially you.

00:47:37.402 --> 00:47:37.893
for sure.

00:47:39.237 --> 00:47:42.858
Well, uh, Scott, I had a blast chatting with you.

00:47:43.338 --> 00:47:46.367
Um, everybody got something from it.

00:47:46.367 --> 00:47:50.188
I got something from it and, uh, I look forward to staying connected.

00:47:50.827 --> 00:48:00.005
And, uh, if there's, is there anything that we didn't cover before we head out that you wanted to share that we might have glossed over?

00:48:00.005 --> 00:48:00.757
Mm hmm.

00:48:01.557 --> 00:48:14.588
Lost over, but I think, you know, if I had to just leave, I mean, one final message with people is just, um, you know, get clarity on the things that you like, what do you really want in life or out of life?

00:48:14.628 --> 00:48:15.208
And.

00:48:16.413 --> 00:48:17.543
Make a plan for getting it.

00:48:17.543 --> 00:48:18.873
It doesn't have to be a perfect plan.

00:48:18.873 --> 00:48:21.922
You don't have to make a five year or ten year plan.

00:48:22.623 --> 00:48:27.512
Maybe you just have to have, uh, you know, a 30 day plan or something that's going to be moving you forward towards that.

00:48:27.583 --> 00:48:32.882
Because again, clarity is the key, I think, to, uh, you know, to not just getting the things that you want.

00:48:32.882 --> 00:48:38.202
But, you know, once you get what you want, now you have to teach that to other people to show them how to get what they want.

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And, um, It might have been Zig Ziglar who said this, but I think he said, you know, if you help people get what they want, you'll get what you want.

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And I believe that.

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And I also believe that if you, you know, work really hard and get what you want, well, now you can teach other people how to do the same thing.

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So that's really where I'm at these days is just, uh, you know, um, working on a course as well for do the hard things first and other courses too, but because, uh, books are great.

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But I think that people just want to connect with, uh, you know, like a, on a deeper level of learning.

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You know, people want to connect with community and, um, you know, courses and mastermind communities and all these things are things that we're putting together for this year as well.

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So,

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That's awesome.

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And that's exciting too.

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That's very aligned with what's going on with exactly what you said.

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A lot of people are looking for that.

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So I look forward to seeing more of that.

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It's pretty cool.

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Well, thanks for, uh, closing us out with some solid advice.

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Scott Allen, thank you for coming on the show, man.

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Oh, it's been great.

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Thanks for having me here.
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Scott Allan

With his books published in 16 languages, and over 500,000 copies sold worldwide, Scott Allan is on a mission to transform the human potential. Scott is the bestselling author of Fail Big, Relaunch Your Life, and Do the Hard Things First.

As a former corporate business trainer in Japan and Transformational Success Strategist, he has invested over 10,000 hours of practice and research into confidence development and mindset mastery training.

With an unrelenting passion for teaching, building critical life skills, and inspiring people worldwide to take charge of their lives, he is committed to a path of constant and never-ending self-improvement.