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Oh my Lord.
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I am doing screaming, doing backflips.
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Whoa.
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Who in the freak are you calling a taxpayer, bro?
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Because if they say taxpayer and you don't rebut it, that's also a little bit dangerous.
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Excuse me, Mr.
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Person who is subject to internal revenue tax.
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And you go, yes, do you see what would you like to say they're a good friend?
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And they go, so you do admit it.
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It's way beyond jurisdiction.
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I mean, you are literally a vapor.
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How can you imprison a vapor?
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right.
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So I feel like we scrambled everybody's brains All right.
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Welcome to the New Age Human Podcast today.
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We're talking with Brandon, Joe Williams, who is an author, negotiable instruments, attorney and foreign national of The Amnesty Coalition.
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Brandon empowers individuals to question conventional understanding of law, and he provides insights on wealth creation, debt discharge, and personal sovereignty.
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Now, as a disclosure, this is not legal advice and expect more explicit language in this episode.
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You have been warned.
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Brief overview of what we're talking about.
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The United States of America is a corporation and we have been employees ever since that corporation was created.
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We will touch on this in the episode, so don't worry.
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And yes, your birth certificate is part of this.
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since the restructuring of our country after the civil war, this system of control has been in place, largely unnoticed by the public until recently, if this sounds insane.
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I'm right there with you.
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This episode is to help demystify these claims and give you a head start into accessing true freedom and escaping the matrix of unnecessary taxes, laws, and increasing attack on our personal prosperity.
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For those who prefer a visual aid, we recommend watching the video version of this episode, which is available on both the website and on YouTube.
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The video includes visual references that can help clarify some of the more complex concepts that we're discussing.
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But don't worry, the audio version will provide you with all the valuable information that you need.
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So, with that said, buckle your seatbelts, Dorothy, because Kansas is going bye bye.
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Let's get to the show.
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All right, Brandon, Joe Williams, welcome to the show.
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How's it going, man?
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Good.
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How are you doing?
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I'm doing pretty good.
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It's hot over here in Connecticut.
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I know you're in Cali.
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I don't know if it's, is it really hot over there right now?
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Oh yeah.
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It's a dry heat, so it's not too bad, but it's definitely hot.
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It's probably 95 or something.
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I think the last time I was in California, I was in San Francisco where it's just The elevation gets nuts and people were telling me sometimes it, the temperature changes like 10, 20 degrees, depending on where you are at a given time.
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I'm not sure if you go out that way, but I thought that was interesting.
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I've crazy enough living in LA for a total of 15 years or something like that.
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I've never been to San Francisco, which I know is, is batshit crazy.
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I was broke most of the time I've been living out here.
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So, uh, but anyways, I will definitely be going to San Fran at some point in time.
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Well, I mean, I grew up.
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In new york and connecticut and I still haven't visited the statue of liberty.
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So there's that All right.
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So today for everybody that's listening, we're going to be going into some very interesting subject matter.
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It's going to blow your brain Brandon has a very interesting background Where you've been diving into a lot of law and a lot of it has been freeing ourselves from the matrix So to speak And so a lot of us listening are used to thinking outside the box when it comes to like metaphysics and stuff, but, um, this is actually very grounding of a subject, but then at the same time, it's very out of the box and it's kind of hard to describe where it would sit, you know, like it's grounding, but at the same time, I'm like, someone would tell me.
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You're crazy.
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I'm like, no, this, this is actually real.
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I mean, uh, in the beginning of this whole deal, how, uh, what was it like when you started to try to share this?
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I didn't, uh, I was, I was, uh, mouse church mouse quiet about it for about six months.
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And then, uh, by the time I was ready to share it, uh, is when I launched the website.
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So when I launched the website, that was when I started sharing the information.
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I mean, prior to that point, nuts, there was very little sharing that was attempted.
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That's interesting because I know people that fall into this information.
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We're going to get into it and they start telling people and you did the exact opposite, but.
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On top of that, you just went hardcore into educating the masses, which is very interesting.
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You went from zero to a hundred real quick.
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By the time I was ready to start talking about it, Oh yeah, I mean it was, It was, the course was launched, Or I'm sorry, not the course, the website, Which was only text based at that time, we didn't have any branding, We didn't have the logo, we didn't have the, Uh, it was just branded Joe Williams.
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One stupid fuck.
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com, but there was no logo.
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There was no pickles.
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There was no, none of that.
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Um, in the free contract killer course, you can actually see that original version of the website when I'm reading it in the course, that's actually the original version.
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Um, and then for that was March 14th of 2022.
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And then for, uh, three months, I did nothing but expand and rewrite and correct the website over and over again, like every single day, sometimes multiple times a day.
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And then in, in, in June, May, June, and then very, very early July, July 2nd of 2022.
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So may and June, I was shooting all the video for, uh, the free contract killer course, and then July 2nd, 2022 is when I launched the free contract killer course.
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And then by August I start, I hired a publicist and I was getting on podcasts.
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And by the end of 2022, I was doing five or six shows a week, all around two, three hours each.
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And that continued from about.
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October or November of 2022, all the way until maybe two or three months ago, I started to cut down on five or six shows a week because, um, all the litigation stuff that I'm currently involved in is very taxing and it just kind of was becoming a bit.
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Too much for me.
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Um, so I backed off on the shows in order to focus more on the litigation.
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And then now the litigation sort of cooling down, but I'm building 12 or 13 new cases that'll be, uh, filed within the next probably 60, 70 days.
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So that's the kind of like the timeline.
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And then by the time I started doing lots of shows and the contract, of course, was out by about August, September.
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Of 2022, that's when we started to see some serious uptick.
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So if you look at my graph all the way from the beginning, it was like 300 people a month for coming to the website for the first three months.
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So it's just like way down at the bottom and then the free course.
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And then we have this huge upshift and then I start going on all the podcasts and then we have a huge upshift and then it just literally just goes up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, all the way through to 2024.
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And then by 2024, we've been right around 80, 000 a month to the website every single month.
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Uh, like clockwork.
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That's a lot of eyeballs, man.
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Yeah.
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Huh?
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So let's, let's go into, um, I think everybody would appreciate learning about how you found out about changing your status and how you felt about that.
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Because once you learn about this, there's a lot of confusion, doubt, and excitement all in one bubble.
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Yeah.
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Um, so I'm actually curious, like how that happened for you.
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I have an idea.
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I remember listening to one or two of the other podcasts, but, uh, I would love the audience to get a feel for your experience.
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Yeah, I had a landscaping company that I've had for a while now, and I just, uh, I just walked away from it recently, actually, about a week, a week, 10 days ago, I stepped, stepped down as a trustee, um, just due to way too much going on right now.
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Um, and, um, When I first took over that company, it was very, very stressed.
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It was in all sorts of disarray and it was, it was actually a structure as a corporation.
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And, um, so the employment development department, which is the, the payroll mafia of California.
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Decided they wanted to trespass onto one of my, uh, job sites that was actually at a client's home.
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So they were actually trespassing on their property and, and, and also sort of, uh, illegally interrogating my staff.
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Uh, I don't call my, the people who work inside the trust, uh, employees, cause that's actually a very, uh, strange term when you actually go down the rabbit hole, I actually call them performers, sort of like what you would call like a entertainer.
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And, uh, I just, they're just people who perform.
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That's the definition of a performer.
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Um, so if anyone asks, do you have any employees and what employees and I, Oh, I don't have any employees.
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Relax.
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You can go away now.
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I have performers.
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Oh, you mean like entertainers?
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I mean, nope.
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People who perform on behalf of my trust.
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That's it.
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Very simple, right?
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So not trustees either.
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So they say are they trustees?
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No, and then by that point they're so confused.
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They usually just go away, which is fantastic.
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But um, the the The employment development department decided they wanted to send me a very large bill that they manufactured and pulled straight out of their asshole and That is where this story began because I had a very close friend of mine.
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I still he still works there and he And, uh, another friend of mine, another friend of mine, three really close friends working for this trust, uh, landscaping and,
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uh, right there real quick, I'm actually noticing that you already had a good handle on verbiage and words before you getting into this.
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Cause I'm thinking you had changed your status before what you were doing, what you were doing at that point, because you, you're, you're like, oh, um, I didn't have employees that had performers.
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So you were already working with, no, I didn't
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rename that until later.
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All this
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happened around that time.
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I was like, going to different accountants and lawyers, and they were telling me to just make a payment plan.
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And I was telling them, like, fuck you, why would I make a payment plan, it doesn't make any sense.
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And that's when I figured out about trusts versus corporations.
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And then I opened a trust.
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And then I got the EIN number for the trust.
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And then I opened the bank accounts.
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And then I moved all the cash and all the credit card transactions and everything into the trust.
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And then I told the EDD to go fuck themselves.
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Um, and they sent me a couple of threatening letters.
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I sent them a couple of threatening letters and then they just went away.
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Um, but, but I didn't really Even after that experience didn't really totally know everything.
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I didn't know a lot of things.
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I just knew that now I had a trust A non statutory trust which means a trust that isn't open to the governmental Umbrella I didn't go to the government to register.
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I didn't get it from the government It's uh, it was open between myself and some friends.
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So, um Yeah, it's a interesting situation because when you get the trust all set up, that was my first experience, then these government agencies, such as the IRS or anybody else, they can't, they can't touch it, they can't get into it, they can't even see it anymore.
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It becomes invisible to the radars entirely.
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That's
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nuts.
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So when I found out about this and I did this, I was like, wow, this is pretty interesting.
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And then by the time I had completed that, and I had already transferred everything into a non statutory private irrevocable trust, and I started to learn how that works.
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And I opened up the accounts and moved all the credit card processing over and did all the good stuff.
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Uh, at that point I had opened up or at least viewed a lot of other doorways that were very, very fascinating.
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And I wanted to continue to go down these various rabbit holes and various research, uh, lines.
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And, uh, that is essentially where all of this started and what it became to what it is today.
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And that research has continued every single day.
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Um, and I left my day job last year in October.
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Or September.
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And then I left the landscaping company as a trustee about maybe 10 weeks, 10 days, 14 days ago.
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So slowly, but surely, uh, my life has become more and more and more centric to, uh, focusing completely and entirely on the subject and, and anything else that has anything else to do with literally anything else, uh, has been slowly removed from my life.
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Piece by piece.
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And now we're at a point now where, uh, this is pretty much all day, every day, everything, and, and anyone or anything that comes in between me and, and making that happen, uh, is, is typically removed from my life.
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Well, that's sweet.
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Um, when you, I know you've been on a lot of shows since you started this progress, this process of just sharing how to, what true freedom is.
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When you go to start to describe, I want to start diving into like, what is it that you did and what is it that you're helping people with, which is essentially changing your status from a U.
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S.
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citizen to an American state national.
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And for the audience, how would you best describe what that is and what that means to them?
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I'll tell you what I've been doing.
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I've been starting from The Civil War and then going from there because I feel like some, an event that someone kind of has an idea of what happened, giving some clarity to what happened and then how that trickles down now helps people.
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But I'm actually curious.
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How do you do it?
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Assuming that anybody listening has no idea what we're talking about.
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Well, I have a presentation I usually do on these shows.
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I can do the whole presentation if you want.
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Sure.
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How long would that be?
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45 minutes to an hour or something like that.
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Let's go.
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Alrighty.
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Let's do, let's make some magic happen.
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So you, you you're able to have access.
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Perfect.
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Okay, cool.
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So I've done this a million times.
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It's changed a little bit here and there.
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There's been a couple of huge breakthroughs that have really changed a lot, but, uh, this, this presentation I'm going to give here is the same one, uh, I've done, you know, many, many times, especially for the past several months, but, uh, the way it works is pretty straightforward.
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When you go online, you type in, uh, these, these string of numbers, and then this thing here in the middle, and then this weird symbol, and then this string of numbers.
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What you're looking at is, you're looking at the, for example, the United States Code, uh, this is the Cornell Law School, right?
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All I did was just type that into the internet, by the way, 28 USC 3002.
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I didn't type in the little section symbol, as you can see.
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Got it.
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Uh, the first number, the 28 that you saw there, uh, represents the title.
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So you'll see here title, uh, basically the, the major, major sections of the United States code, right?
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Title, it goes up to currently title 54.
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And each one has different aspects.
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Like one of the major ones that we get into a lot, obviously, is title eight, which is about aliens and nationality.
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Uh, banking is a title 12, which is a good one for a lot of the things that we do.
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We get into title 42 quite a bit, which is the public health and welfare.
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And, uh, also the whole driving versus traveling and all that good stuff and license plates and driver's license.
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We get into title 49.
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Which is transportation quite a bit, but title 28 is the one we're going to be looking at now, which is judiciary and judicial procedure.
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And so the way you read this is this first number is a title.
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And then you have the body of law, which is the United States code.
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This is a section symbol.
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And then we have it's section 3002.
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We're going to go down to subsection 15.
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United States means a federal corporation, right?
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So you have, you have a lot of people talking about, Oh, is the United States a corporation and blah, blah, blah.
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It is a corporation, but it's a type of corporation called a federal corporation.
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Ironically enough.
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The word federal is also capitalized, which does have significance, but we're probably not going to get into that right now, or, or maybe we will later on the show.
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The next thing I usually show people, which is probably the most important thing you'll ever learn in law.
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Honestly, it's one of the most important things.
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Um, there's probably two areas in all of law that are the most important areas.
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Both of them we will cover, but this is definitely, uh, one of those two, um, title 26 is the internal revenue code, the tax code.
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Title 26 of the United States Code, section 7701, subsection A1, is the definition of the word person.
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There's two things, like I said, in all of law.
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This is one of the two most important things you'll ever learn in all of law.
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The term person shall be construed to mean and include an individual, a trust, a state, partnership, association, company, or corporation.
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So if you take this definition and you combine it here with this idea, United States is a person and you will see that in criminal cases where you have United States versus John Doe.
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If you look in the jurisdiction and venue section of the criminal lawsuit, it'll say something like.
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United States is a person as per blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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They're pretty clear about that.
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This is not some secret information or something like that.
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So United States is a corporation and it is a person.
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And, uh, the first thing we need to figure out is, uh, where is that person called United States?
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located.
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We're going to go to a different body of law in order to figure that out called the Uniform Commercial Code.
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Now this one is the same shit, but it runs a little differently.
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So this first number is called article, and then this is the section number.
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So the way you would read this is Article 9 of the Uniform Commercial Code, 307, or you can say, you know, from commercial code, article nine, section 307, whatever, right.
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And we're going to go down to subsection H and a subsection H states the location of the person called the United States location of United States.
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The United States is located in the district of Columbia.
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Now you ask yourself where.
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How large, what size?
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So essentially the district of Columbia is a country and there's a state inside that country called United States, which is no different than California or in the European Union, France, just cause it's called United States.
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That's just, that's all just deceiving terminology.
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You could, you could say it, it could be called, uh, you know, you could take this guy's name, Ms.
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Riani and just call it, you know.
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Okay.
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Mezrianneville.