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Earth is a second chance planet.
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In other words, we've all failed to graduate from other third density experiences.
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so earth is like, you're getting your GED.
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That's right.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, that's a good analogy.
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when we have this awakening, and it can happen at any age, it is a starting point, it's not by any means a finishing point.
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we are going to begin to have a physical visitation from multiple extraterrestrial sources.
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so that it will no longer be deniable, the government can say, oh no, it's swamp gas.
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every universe is designed with mixing and matching of, archetypes of the creator
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Buckle your seatbelts, everybody.
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And I'll tell you why right now.
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Today we're talking with Dean Graves.
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He provides information and instructs acolytes on self healing and self awareness.
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He has two podcasts, Chatting with Octarians and the other is Simple Enlightenment.
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And his only guests are not incarnate.
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So buckle up again is going to be a ride.
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We're going to talk about consciousness.
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Uh, are we alone in the universe?
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What happens when we die?
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If even if we have time to get there.
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So, I mean, Dean, welcome to the show.
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I'm, I'm, I'm happy to have you on.
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Thank you, John.
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I'm delighted to be here.
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I'm like, where do we start?
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I mean, you're, you're like, you're all for like the new age and helping with bringing in the enlightenment, which I love.
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And I know that a lot of what you're doing is, is working with meditation.
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And I think that's where everything started for you.
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Right.
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And it was more recent.
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Like when you were 50, can we, let's start with like where it all began, because that's interesting.
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Okay.
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Well, um, most of my life was, uh, I guess you could say, uh, a conventional life, um, family, work, career, uh, ambitions, and, uh, you know, reasonably successful at that.
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Uh, around my, uh, 50th year, I had, uh, an awakening and, uh, Awakening is an often misunderstood experience.
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Very simply, what an awakening is, is an awareness that all this stuff that we do is not fulfilling.
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It's not bringing me greater happiness in spite of ambition, successes, and so forth.
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And.
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When we have this awakening, and it can happen at any age, it can happen at, you know, 20, it can happen at 30, 40, 50, whatever, uh, we begin to look around to see what alternatives are there to what we've been doing.
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And it is a starting point, it's not by any means a finishing point.
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And so, we begin to question, um, what we've been doing, and to seek alternatives.
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In my experience, I was introduced to meditation and began a meditation practice, a diligent and earnest meditation practice.
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And what becomes apparent is when we reach this point, we often begin, and all of my students, without exception, we begin this process of meditation.
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Running away from the stick.
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In other words, what we've been doing hurts, doesn't feel good, and so we're looking for meditation to be Uh, a cure all to the stick.
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And then one day, and this will happen, uh, depending on how earnest you are, but it is an immutable experience to everyone that participates in meditation, is you get a bite of the apple.
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And the apple tastes really good.
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And so we transform our motivation from running away from the stick to chasing the apple.
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And the apple becomes our guide As to what we do with our meditation, how we progress, and we will vary back and forth, and we'll try all the different flavors of apples, and so forth.
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But as, as our motivation accelerates, uh, accelerates along this path of self exploration, then we find greater success.
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And all of these experiences, which are incremental, along the way, will increase.
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Uh, are immutable, they will be the same feeling for everyone.
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Not the same experience, but the same feeling.
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And so consequently, we progress along the enlightenment path.
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And enlightenment also is often a misunderstood concept.
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We perceive because of the successes that the Buddha had that enlightenment is a destination.
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It's not a destination, it's the process itself.
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And And so everyone, even those that still remain in that chaotic state of being, are on the enlightenment path.
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They're just unaware of that.
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And so, um, you know, that is our mission in life.
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That is our purpose in life, is to explore the self.
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And we all share that same.
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That is our purpose in life.
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Our mission in life will vary from individual to individual.
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If you decide that you're going to be a.
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A physician or a lawyer or a, uh, factory worker, whatever the, the occupation and the activities that we choose in our life simply are there to provide us with the opportunity to become more self aware.
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They provide us with the nature of our experiences, but the purpose of life is exactly the same for everyone.
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It's interesting how it doesn't matter what you do, you get a chance, whatever you decide to do.
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As long as you're moving, you're going to get hit with self reflection, whether you fall and have to get up or you find a success.
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So it, I, that rings true for me as well.
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Um, but.
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You said something about biting the apple, and I can only imagine anybody in the audience thinking, is he talking about the forbidden fruit?
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That's the first thing that popped in my
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about a fruit that tastes really good.
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And most people like, you know, like apples.
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But no, there's nothing, absolutely nothing.
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It is, it, let me qualify that.
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It is forbidden by those that wish to keep us from having a bite of the apple.
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In other words, there is, we are, we are faced with, we exist within a range of consciousness.
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And there is a curriculum that we are to learn in this range of consciousness.
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And through our experiences, we learn the lessons of the, the curriculum.
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And we have a choice, and one of the strategic choices that we have to make, and we can talk about the eminence of that, um, which is another significant factor of our new age experience.
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We have to choose whether we are going to polarize service to self or service to others.
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And that is the strategic decision.
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Because it is our design in this range of consciousness that we will create, beginning with the first thought that we have as an infant, we will create a hierophant, or an identity, or an ego.
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It's all the same thing, just different words for the exact same condition.
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This hierophant is who we think we are.
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And it's It creates an ego mind.
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So because it's who we think we are, we create this to fulfill our motivation in life.
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Our motivation in life is to get more of what we like.
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What we like will vary from person to person, depending where we are in this enlightenment scale.
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And it literally is a scale.
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We create this hierophant in order to trick the world into giving us more of what we like.
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So as we get older, you know, we say, I'm going to be a physician and I'm going to be really important.
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Okay.
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That is a belief that we incorporate in our identity.
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We do that for the sole purpose of tricking the world to giving us more of what we like.
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We may initially perceive that what we like to be money, we may evolve to realize that what we really and truly like is love.
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But the problem is, we don't know what love is because we begin without any information or any knowledge.
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And so, that point of awakening is that point of awakening that we realize that the hierophant, our perception of self, Our autonomous perception of the self isn't working.
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And so, while we are in the chaotic stage up to that point of awakening, we have awareness, but that awareness is pointed outside of us in order to try to measure how effective our hierophant is being and giving us more of what we like.
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And we try to trick the world By modifying our hierophant, how I dress, how I think, what clubs I belong to, what churches, people we associate, all of that stuff is a result of our hierophant and how we perceive ourselves and what we believe will bring us greater happiness.
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But it is also our source of stress and suffering.
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Yeah.
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And so we get to this point of awakening and we, one of the essential points that we find when we reach this point of awakening is the necessity of turning that awareness around.
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So instead of that awareness being pointed outside of us to measure how our hierophant is doing, we begin to turn that awareness inside and begin to look inside and investigate it.
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What I have incorporated into this false identity, into this hierophant, that needs to be amended.
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Because we're the only thing that we can change.
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If we can change ourselves, then that's it.
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I want to interject real quick.
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Um, you're, you're dropping some gold nuggets right now.
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A lot of, um, important.
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Self awareness steps of going from, right, sourcing from outside of you to sourcing from within.
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Did that awareness happen when you started to meditate?
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And I'm just curious, where did that awareness come to be?
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How did you come to embody that?
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Well, that's what meditation does.
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When I, and I explained to my, particularly my new students, but it's something that you have to reiterate because it's an ongoing process.
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We exist both in the metaphysical world and the physical world simultaneously.
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You and I talking right now are an analog projection of our metaphysical self.
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And if you think of our experience in the physical world is we're on a sports team.
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And almost every sports team is the same.
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You practice all week.
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You look at game films, you study plays, yada yada yada, all those things that a sports team does.
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And then you have a game on Friday night.
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We're in the game.
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This is the game that we're in right now.
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We're incarnate.
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When we are not incarnate, we're back in the locker room.
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Studying game films, we review, well, you know, I was going to do this in the last game and I didn't do it, and so on and so forth, you know, all of those coach directed things.
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Um, and we resolve we're going to do better at this next incarnation as far as learning the curriculum of this range of consciousness, and then we go into the game again.
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And we play another game, uh, the difficulty with the game is we are required to forget everything that we knew while we were in the locker room when we were practicing on the practice field and we try again.
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And so the metaphysical self is who we visit when we are in meditation.
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When we get that bite of the apple, what we're really doing is feeling our authentic self, which is underneath for everybody.
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It's underneath this hierophant that we create while we are incarnate.
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And so.
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The meditation allows us to have a reprieve from the village.
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When we are in the game, we are in the village.
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Mm hmm.
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When we are in meditation, we are with and or are our metaphysical self.
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So when you meditate and you began meditating, are you, are you telling me that a lot of what you've learned and what you're sharing with people came as a download or is it mostly from those conversations with maybe, uh, I'm guessing Octarians.
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Cause I'm like, who, what, what, what is that?
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I want, I want to know where did you get this information from?
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Because when you meditate, yes, you go deep and you disconnect from the body, uh, depending on the different levels.
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Right.
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And you're off the playing field.
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I want to know who are you talking to in the locker room when you leave?
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And how is it that you, what makes you special that you remember when you come back into the field?
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Cause it sounds like you're remembering when most people don't.
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What's going on there.
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Okay, well, your metaphysical, the universe is a very busy place.
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Uh, we perceive that we are, uh, possibly alone in the universe.
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Uh, we're not, uh, we are, uh, part of a vast system, more vast than we can comprehend.
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Um, our guides, uh, are cheering for us and offering us what we are prepared to ask about.
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Uh, you have to ask the questions that you want to know the answer to because that is an indication to them that you're ready to receive the information.
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If you just show up and say, okay, tell me what I need to know, you're not going to get anything.
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It doesn't work like that.
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You have to assume the responsibility for your advancement in this consciousness design.
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And so, whatever that you want to ask and are prepared to receive, you can learn.
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They will provide you with.
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Now, my personal communication.
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is with, um, the creators.
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One, an aspect of the creators of our earthly experience and our earthly experience is, uh, and this is going to require some unpacking.
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Um, there, there are, let's see how I can explain this quickly and simply.
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The, the creation has expanded by universes and every universe is designed with a mixing and matching of, um, archetypes of the creator.
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Our universe is a nine star system, which means every star is home to an aspect of the creator.
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Um, We, there are five inherent characteristics of the Creator, awareness, love, wisdom, unity, and stillness.
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Our particular universe is designed with those five inherent characteristics as well as four distortions of those inherent characteristics.
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And so we are a nine star universe.
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Every expansion of the universe has, uh, occurred with a duplication or a birthing of a new nine star system.
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Interesting.
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Okay, the Arcturians, to explain who they are, are just another nine star system.
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They have been in the system longer than we have.
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We are relatively new.
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To the evolutionary process and expansion process, the Arcturians are just another nine star system that has long been involved with the guidance of Earth.
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Uh, one of the inherent characteristics of the Creator is, uh, love, and it has a name.
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The name is called Ra, R A.
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Uh, our sun is home to law, which is wisdom.
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And it's just an inherent characteristic of the Creator.
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Earth is, for the most part, it is primarily a raw or love experiment, experience, but with a large contribution by the Creator.
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Law or wisdom and the remainder of it is the other seven contributors to our experience, but on a minor level relative to raw in law
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Interesting.
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so my communication Um, personally is primarily with an aspect of love of Ra, that is the same Ra that visited with the Ra from Egypt, but that was as a result of an aspect of Ra called Osiris, which is, again, part of the Egyptian mythology.
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That actually, many years ago, walked among the people in order to share information and guide them along in their path.
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RAW determined that it was a naive venture on their part, and so they left.
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Uh, they, the information that the RAW entity provided was hoarded by those that called themselves priests.
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And so consequently, they used the information to assume dominance over the bulk of the population.
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And so it was a failed effort.
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But the effort that we see resulted in the construction of the pyramids that was created overnight by Ra.
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In other words, the people went to sleep, they woke up, and there were, wow, these pyramids.
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And they, it was much more common at that time to interact with extra what the, we, we would call extraterrestrial beings.
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But that was a learning point for RAW, that they couldn't do that because the population was such a, a low level of consciousness that they would, um, um, abuse the information to assume dominance over the bulk of the population.
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Hence the priesthood and, and, and, uh, making that a club exclusive.
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Right.
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Um, so I've heard of that description of rock being the builder of maybe those specific pyramids, and then there's a mixture of humanity trying to copy and there's pyramids everywhere.
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Right.
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And,
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Well, Ra was not the only one that did this.
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There were other aspects of, um, you know, these inherent characteristics that built pyramids all around the Earth.
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Uh, there was a, a colleague of Ra that had much more success in, um, South America with the Mayans.
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And the Mayans, um, Had pyramids that were, and they did not hoard the information, the population, the mines disappeared.
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The reasons the mines disappeared is they graduated.
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They learned the material, they absorbed it, they transformed themselves, and they disappeared because they no longer needed the third density experience, which is what we're
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Yes, I've, I've heard that too.
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Um, which is fascinating, right?
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The, the, the ability to ascend on pass the material plane.
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Um, when it comes back, let's say dialing back your communication with the arterians.
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How do you communicate?
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Is it via meditation?
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Is it via channeling?
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Is it via downloading?
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And then you write it down because you're, you're, you're describing very specific things.
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And I'm curious how they communicate with you.
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If they were the main ones that helped you kind of put this information together?
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Well, actually, my, uh, teacher is the aspect of raw.
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Uh, My Significant Other is a vocal channel that communicates with the Arcturians through her.
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And so she literally surrenders her instrument, the body, to the Arcturians and we chat, uh, just like you and I are sitting here chatting.
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Interesting.
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That reminds me of, um, the series, um, of the book, uh, the law of rule, the law of one,
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Mm hmm.
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Yeah.
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The same, same aspect that I communicate with was the aspect of Ra that communicated with Carla and, uh, Jim and, uh, Don.
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Mm hmm.
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right.
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And your significant other, do they have to recalibrate the same way?
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Like you have to deal with the same thing.
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Carla had a lot of physical difficulties, and so it made it difficult for her to maintain that, that status of being.
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But, uh, and they've actually put the recordings that they made of Carla when she was channeling, uh, RAW, and it's very slow and very deliberate.
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Uh, no, my communication with the Arcturians is literally just like you and I are chatting.
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That's awesome.
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And so it's like, what question to ask now?
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Okay.
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Um, so I mean, yes, we addressed, are we alone in the universe?
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You mentioned one, um, aspect of it, which is the Arcturians.
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Would you say they're fit?
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Like, how about this?
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There's a, um, conversation going on right now that I'm interested in.
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seeing a lot where you have the idea that extraterrestrials are demons, that there are demons and extraterrestrials.
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And then you have this interesting thing where if you are in the experience of another being, one of the things you would do is you would call out Jesus's name, right?