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July 18, 2023

Exploring the Intersection of Metaphysics and Quantum Physics with Laurie Rivers

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In this episode, we're talking with Laurie Rivers, a consulting astrologer who helps professionals and entrepreneurs navigate the changing times while aligning with their highest potential. We dive deep into topics of quantum entanglement, time travel, reincarnation, the soul's journey with cosmic influences, and Laurie's predictions of future events based on her expertise in astrology

Key Takeaways

  1. Awakening Story Involving Quantum Entanglement and Time Travel
    • Discussion of Laurie Rivers' awakening story involving quantum entanglement and time travel
  2. Reincarnation and the Soul's Journey with Cosmic Influences
    • Discussion of reincarnation and the soul's journey with cosmic influences
  3. Predictions of the Likely and Probable Future Events Based on Laurie's Expertise in Astrology
    • Discussion of Laurie's predictions of the likely and probable future events based on her expertise in astrology

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there's a greater soul.

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So think of all life and then that soul breaks into many.

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And then there's the individual soul expression.

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one theory I've heard is, Your soul could be expressing through this physical body and another physical body in the 1500s and another physical body.

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And so, we could be experiencing the past, present, and the future simultaneously

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welcome to the New Age Human Podcast.

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I'm your host, Jon Astacio, and today we're talking with Laurie Rivers, who is a consulting astrologer who helps professionals and entrepreneurs navigate the changing times while aligning with their highest potential.

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So stick around to the whole thing, because here's some highlights and awakened story involving quantum entanglement and time travel, the topic of reincarnation and the soul's journey with cosmic influences.

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And at the very end, we talk about and elaborate on her predictions of the likely and probable future events based on her expertise in astrology.

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Before we begin, we have a Telegram channel where we discuss topics mentioned in the show, and more importantly, sharing the topics that are of most interest to you.

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And if you want to contact me, just go to NewAgeHuman.com.

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Let's get to the show! well, first of all, thank you for coming onto the show.

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This is awesome because, uh, we, uh, we you, we we were talking, uh, earlier about your in depth knowledge on astrology.

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And then just before I, I just had to hit record.

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Cause you're like, I, had my great awakening or greater awakening story with your quantum physics class.

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So let's dive into that.

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What is that story

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Oh my God.

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So, One, I never got to be asleep, just so you know that.

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I never had the luxury of not being aware.

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I was a weird kid.

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I started reading it too.

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I could see my quote unquote guides.

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Much like Sheldon Cooper, my mom had me tested, so I know I'm not crazy.

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We were kind of joking beforehand.

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I was like, if Amy Farrah Fowler and Sheldon Cooper had a baby, that would be me.

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From, the big Bang Theory, for

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from the Big Bang Theory,

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that yet.

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right?

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And, anyway, I was an international relations major.

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I went to university in England.

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And in fact, it was Hogwarts in the second film.

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So I've been to Hogwarts which was a major flex for my children.

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Um, but, um, it was famous for having the wall film there when I went to school there.

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So, which, that was very cool.

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the wall.

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can you elaborate on

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Pink Floyd's the wall.

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You know,

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Oh, all the music.

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Okay.

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I'm like, what wall?

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that wall?

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But anyway, one of the reasons I went there is, whereas I'm very good at conceptual math, And experimental math, when it comes to writing out calculations, I have dyscalculia, so I can plan trajectories in my head, but I cannot write them on paper, and I only had to take,

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What's this calcula?

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dyscalculia is kind of like dyslexia, but math.

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Okay.

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that's what I thought.

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Yeah.

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And so, but they didn't know what it was back then.

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Right?

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So I could give you all this great theory out of my head, but I could not write it down.

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So in order to get through my degree, I needed a science class and a math class.

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And I was studying with world famous international lawyers.

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And that's what I was focused on.

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I was a U.

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S.

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Middle East policy specialist when everybody was looking at the U.

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S.

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S.

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R.

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This is back 88.

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Through 90 because I did my degree really fast.

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But anyway, I had, I saw this science class called Natural Sciences and I was like, oh, biology.

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I can do that class and I get in and there's this very tiny old woman named Dr.

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Troller and Troller she was, She welcomes us to the class.

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She had a, she was Austrian by birth and she said, um, welcome to quantum mechanics theory.

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Oh, perfect.

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She has the axe And everything!

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Everything.

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And I, my hand shoots up and I'm like I'm a humanities major.

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I would like to be released from this class because I was a scholarship kid.

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This was a very expensive school.

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These kids were billionaires, kids, millionaires, kids.

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My dad was a firefighter.

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Okay, so I was like, I was there because I was smart.

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But I'm like, oh, excuse me.

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Can I lose my GPA?

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I'm like, I cannot get anything less than a B plus right now.

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And she was like, I don't let women out of my class.

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Shit.

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So, After class, I went to our office and I am, like, in heaving tears.

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I am 19 years old.

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I am, I am, I cannot afford to get a B or a C at this point, cause I already got my C.

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I made an economics professor angry.

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Actually, I made him cry.

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But, we won't go into that.

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But, um, it was kind of funny.

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But anyway, I go and I'm explaining.

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I was, I was explaining to her, you know, my hardship and what have you.

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And she didn't say a word.

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She rolls up her sleeve and there's a number of tattoos on her arm.

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Oh, is it, what is it, pie?

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served, no, it was an Auschwitz tattoo.

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Oh.

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You can't argue with that.

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And I was an international relations major.

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History was part of what, you know, we dove into.

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And I just stopped crying and went, Oh, crap.

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And she said, you know, you said you were classically trained musician.

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That was one of my arguments.

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You know, I'm a musician.

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I'm an analyst.

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I'm in my head, but I'm not good at math.

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There's engineers in this class.

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I'm going to lose on the bell curve.

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And she said, can you imagine smaller than small?

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And I said, yeah.

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And she was like, can you imagine bigger than big?

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I'm like, of course, because I used to do that in high school.

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My mom used to think I was on drugs.

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I'd lay on my bed and I would imagine the big bang.

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And I would imagine the, the, the force going out and expanding infinitely.

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And my mom would hear me go, Whoa.

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And she'd be like, let me see your eyes.

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I'd be like, I'm just blowing my own mind.

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but anyway.

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She said, use my office hours, but I'm not letting you out.

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This can change your life.

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And it did.

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No one had, when I, this was 89.

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This quantum physics was not a common discussion topic.

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You didn't have TV shows about it.

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Stephen Hawking's was barely a known name.

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And I'm not gonna lie.

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I think I cried more than I've ever cried in my life taking that class because my brain literally hurt, you know, the more I read, you know, now everybody talks about Schrodinger's cat.

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Nobody had ever talked to me about Schrodinger's cat.

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I grew up in Gladstone, Oregon.

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It had like 8, 000 people

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so for, for, those that don't know what that is, can you do like a side description of,

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Yeah, so Schrodinger's cat, Schrodinger's cat, it was postulated, and this has to do with particles and by the, or sub particles, which they've proven at the certain particle accelerator that something can exist and not exist at the same time.

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And it's based on percepts perceptions.

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So Schrodinger had this theory that he had a cat in a, in a box and it was both alive and dead at the same time.

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Go ahead and read the theory.

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Okay.

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And I remember reading it over and over.

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It's alive and it's dead all at the same time.

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You open the box and it's alive.

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You open the box and it's dead.

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You open them and I'm like, my brain was just flipping on this.

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It was just like, how the hell does that work?

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Um, and, Trying to understand like everybody when in 2012 when the Higgs boson was actually proven, right?

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And they call that the God particle.

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It's not the God particle.

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Higgs called it the goddamn particle because he couldn't find it.

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But when he published his work, they made him take the damn out.

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So people make this, especially in conspiracy theory land.

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Everybody's like, it's the God particle.

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It's like, no, it's the goddamn particle.

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That's what Higgs called it.

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Okay.

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I'm like, if you want to do your own research, people go do actual research.

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Don't just read Wikipedia.

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Okay.

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Just don't.

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It's not, it's not a primary source.

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There are things called books and we can read those too.

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But it was very exciting in 2012.

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By the way, I was on Twitter that day when it got announced and Higgs was alive to see his own theory proven.

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And that was really cool.

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But it was through this understanding.

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Of like a particle and I just remember seeing this in the book, I can still see it in my head today.

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It was a little description of like on this side of the universe, a sub particle that is charged in exactly the same way as this other sub particle on the other side of the universe could resonate and communicate across time and space and something clicked in me in a way That I don't know how to describe with words, but my brain changed forever with that it made sense.

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I had already left my religious background not funny enough because I didn't have a faith, but because that faith wasn't being followed in the institutions.

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And I was like, you know what?

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If you're going to be a good person, just be a good person.

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Don't do it for brownie points.

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If you're going to help people, just help people.

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Don't do it for brownie points.

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Don't do it to be seen as virtuous.

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And so.

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Yeah.

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My whole goal was studying, you know, like, even though I specialized because you had to specialize in something at the school.

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And so mine was U.

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S.

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Middle East policy.

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Everybody thought I was crazy because nobody cared about the Middle East back then.

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Until 1990.

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Which I predicted and not as an astrologer.

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So I was already a political analyst, right?

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Mm.

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But it was I knew if we could communicate better.

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If human beings could learn about perspective the reason I went overseas to study, even as an 18 year old, is I knew if I studied here, I would only be taught through the American set of lenses, like, so I wear glasses, right?

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So my lenses are set.

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I wanted to see it through another kind of lens.

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And I'm a true internationalist, which is different than a globalist, right?

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As an internationalist, it's understanding everybody's human and we all have different cultures.

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We may not see eye to eye, but if we can communicate, we can collaborate because we live on a floating rock in space.

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It has finite resources and we

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it.

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Some people, some people might say flat earth, but I, I just wanted, I want to say that to see your face for anybody who's watching, Well, we don't have to go there.

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You don't want

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wanted to throw it in there.

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um,

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is entitled to do whatever they will.

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I'm sure they've done their own research.

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Mm

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as a true internationalist would say.

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Right.

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so basically.

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we went from Schrodinger's cat, I hope I'm saying it right, and then you got triggered, or you got, uh, a great her, a wick, something, something

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unfolding, yeah, my mind just blew open.

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Wide

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technically quantum entanglement.

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Yes, that's what they call it today.

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I don't think it was called that back then, because I think string theory might have been in its infancy at that time.

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interesting.

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So, yeah, so by the time the Big Bang Theory hit television, you know, then everybody talks about it.

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You're like, wait a minute.

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I've been trying to talk about this with people forever and everybody thought I was crazy, you know, so, um, and I didn't study it as a scientist, you know, I studied it as a lay person, but it helped make sense of experiences I'd experienced metaphysically.

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it made time seem interesting because I had some experiences as a teenager, as an exchange

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into those experiences.

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I'm, I'm like, you're like, oh yeah, I had these amazing experiences,

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I did, uh, you know, and it's funny cause a lot of people when they hit spirituality, they want these things.

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I want you to understand.

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I never wanted them to happen.

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So at 15, I was an exchange student to Belgium and my host mom was an old countess.

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Okay.

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She was 76 years old and her name was Comtesse Gabrielle Delanois.

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Okay.

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Delano.

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She was, she had letters from Eleanor Roosevelt that I got to read, which was really kind of cool.

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Cause I was kind of a history nut at the time.

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She took me on a road trip to France and she took me to see Normandy and Brittany.

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Which was like when you see like Omaha beach, you know.

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That put things into perspective.

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That's one of the reasons I wanted to study international relations is you could still see like if you've like we went to the Ardennes as well in Belgium, you know, and you can still see the scarring from the tanks, you know, from World War II.

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And, and this was 85, you know, it was 40 years, you know, which is really scary.

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We're approaching 40 years from that damn time goes fast.

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Time travel.

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right.

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Time travel.

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So.

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I could feel certain amounts of things there, but I was also very emotional because I was a young woman and, you know, I was easily, you know, I was a crier.

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What can I say?

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And, yeah, we went through this medieval town, and as we were going down the road, I smelled smoke, and it was heavy, and it was thick, and then I saw smoke.

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Like, it was like, Like you're walking into like a forest fire era area almost and it was accurate and I'm coughing and I'm sputtering and nobody else's Like Tonk Abbey wasn't her girlfriend that came with us, you know, Tonk Dion and I mean, I don't mean girlfriend girlfriend I mean like they were friends Tonk Dion She wasn't, nobody was around me and I am coughing and hacking and my lungs are burning and I turn and I look and there's kind of this outline of a crowd because it's thick smoke and there's a pyre smoldering and Taunt Gabby.

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I'm like, don't you smell this?

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I mean, like, what is wrong with everybody?

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And she looked at me and said, Oh, la petite Jésus, which means, Oh, my little Jesus.

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She was Catholic.

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Um, this is where Joan of Arc Rouen.

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I was like, that's creepy.

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And all of a sudden everything clears.

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There's a church in front of me.

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Cause they build a church on the spot and it's kind of shaped like a, but it's, it's a postmodern thing.

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But when I did research later.

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Because we think when people were burned at the stake, you know, they were burned alive.

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They didn't.

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They died of smoke inhalation because it was a hay fire that, that dampened.

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And so you died from smoke inhalation.

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And I did that research when I got home to the States.

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And so I thought that was weird.

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And it was something I didn't talk about with people because I did not want people to think I was weird.

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I was 15 years old.

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15 year old.

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walking around, just, did you know?

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Mm

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right.

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Hey.

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By the way, I had this really, now kids might talk about it today, but you didn't talk about that stuff in the 80s.

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You didn't talk about anything in the 80s.

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If it was weird, you did not discuss.

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You were like, nope.

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Um, it made you vulnerable to getting beat up.

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Um, so I'm like, not today.

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So when I was in college, there were a couple of other experiences like I could feel hands on me or I could see something like, You know, like buildings or something in an area where there weren't buildings or different buildings and I would be like, am I going crazy?

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Am I schizophrenic?

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Is there something interesting, you know, with my mind?

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And when I learned about the two particles, I was like, well, maybe Um, maybe there's some people and given I have bad vision, I'm not stuck with reality like everybody else's, right?

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If people have really good vision, this is my theory, I may be completely wrong.

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But my theory is because I have less than perfect vision, I was born with less than perfect vision.

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I've always been able to see energy, like I spent an entire day trying to read up on Auras, got halfway through a book and went, Oh, I already do that.

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Yeah.

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hmm,

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And I thought it was just because I had bad eyes, but it's not, it's just there.

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And I don't think it makes you special.

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I don't think it makes you better than anybody else.

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I think humans are designed to do this and for most people it requires a catalyst because if your senses are quote unquote normal it makes it easier.

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Right?

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Or harder to see these things that seem unimaginable.

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And so why wouldn't you look at people as prophets or spiritual leaders if they had these other really big abilities?

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They're not.

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I think everybody can do it.

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It's just some people, because there is a deficit in one space, end up having it not be in another space.

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I don't think it makes you better.

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Okay?

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a theory

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Mm hmm.

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Oh, I'd love to hear.

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So let's say some people don't I think majority of the circles that I am around believe in reincarnation

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Mm hmm.

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And I believe you're on the reincarnation side of things, especially when it comes to astrology.

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can can be.

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Not a hundred percent,

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So Let's say, you know, you go and you have multiple lives and as you go from one life to the other, you elevate yourself on as a soul to higher levels of capability of consciousness because you're learning and then it's like a mixture of both where you get reincarnated and let's say you're at a, your soul is advanced to a certain degree that when you reincarnated the reality around you had To formulate to establish the physical body in a way that would accommodate that type of high frequency and it could be by way of, toxification of the body where you have a heavy metal, heavy metal toxification in the mind that makes connections where they wouldn't have been, but it had to be that way because the dna, the spirit, the, the, the, the soul of the person had.

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it.

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You know, you know, came into this reality around this time and it's like, all right, you got to make this thing work because, and then reality is like, all right, well, we're going to have to give you, you know not so good eyes because we got to make space for you to see these other things because you ended that.

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last life being able to accomplish so much with that And you're going to, you know, the agreement is you're going to continue with that.

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So, you know, we're going to sacrifice a little bit and give you some, some vision and other areas

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Well, and the cool part is if you're born with something, it really doesn't impact you all that much.

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It bothers other people far more than it does me.

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I adapt just fine, you know, so, and we have the technology to have Coke bottle glasses.

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So, you know, it works, but you're, you know, I don't think you're wrong.

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I think, I mean, first of all, nobody can prove any of this.

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So we can have to always theorize.

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If you've ever read Seth Speaks, that presents some, and this is from the seventies.

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Okay.

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So, um, you might want to look it up.

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It's a little mind blowing.

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I found it in my great grandmother's box of books after she passed away when I was 11.

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I did read it, but it scared me and I put it down, so I had to read it later.

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There was a creepy picture of her, of Jane, the person who channeled Seth.

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It was really interesting, but it's mind blowing and it would kind of prepped me for that class a little bit.

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I did read and they talk about having there's a greater soul.

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So think of all life and then that soul breaks into many.

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And then there's the individual soul expression.

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one theory I've heard is, Your soul could be expressing through this physical body and another physical body in the 1500s and another physical body.

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And so, we could be experiencing the past, present, and the future simultaneously.

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quantum entanglement.

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Exactly.

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And, and, I believe very firmly that quantum entanglement is very much a real thing.

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It makes much more sense than, I was born a super special person to be a messiah on this planet and save people, because that sounds crazy.

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Right.

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But, and, and, and you are also at the mercy or the ego tends to be inflated with that.

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And so

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Mm hmm.

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almost like when there is someone that has accomplished or has the ability to do so much amazing things, they have to go through hell.

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You know, usually what I've seen happen, like,

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it's close.

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like it, Like it, balances itself out.

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It more than balances itself out and sometimes I think we have these gifts or, like, we call them gifts, but abilities I think is a better term to survive.

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Some of those things, because when, when somebody says they've been awake their whole life, they've usually gone through some shit.

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And I have.

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It gets better though.

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You don't have to continually go through it, by the way.

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You can finally get up and out.

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I

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and astrology, yeah.

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Astrology was a vehicle to help analytically understand these things.

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You know, to give myself data sets to play with.

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It gave a container.

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It wasn't as open ended.

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Neither is it deterministic the way I do it.

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I don't think fate exists.

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I think we can play with fate.

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I think fate is a great way to hand your power away.

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Yes.

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And then I know about the concept where before you're born, you decide what trajectory trajectory trajectory you're going to go towards.

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So you have certain parts in your timeline that you agreed to happen because you want to accomplish X, Y, X, Y, Z goal.

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But in between those points of events you have free free range you can be led astray.

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From that event, let's just say that you wanted to have happen, and the further you go away from that event, the more, I guess, quote unquote, hell you go into as far as like, uh, the balancing, balancing effect.

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That's something that I saw as, I'm like, oh, that's one way to think of it, because I've heard plenty of stories of people, and I see her face, she's got that like, mmm, I don't, I don't think so, but I'm just saying this is a theory, and you know, what are your thoughts on that?

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I think we have to be really careful and understand that evangelical Christianity has permeated almost every part of our culture and whether you were evangelical or not or conservative Catholic or Lutheran, those ideas, because Calvinism is, is at the basis of our American society.

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Okay?

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And so this idea of crime and punishment And reward and brownie buttons from the universe is something we have to be careful of.

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It's a constant deconstruction.

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At least in my case, you know.

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Because when we say the words like astray, you know, you're off your path.

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I don't think you're ever off your path.

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Your soul is getting experience.

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Like, think of it like a giant game of D& D.

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Sometimes you'll roll a one.

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And it's just a one.

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You didn't roll a one

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I've never played that game, but I'm pretty sure like, a low number is like, not good.

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Yeah, one's really bad.

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A one is you dropped your sword.

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Okay?

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Hang on a second.

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Let's see if I can find...

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Where'd my dice go?

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we're pulling something out or not.

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gonna get my dice, but...

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They're on

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specialized dice, I'm

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I do! There's a 20 sider, okay?

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So, they're crazy.

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And if you roll it, and you roll a 1, let's say, and you're fighting with a sword, you drop your sword.

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That's a 1.

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So, occasionally, we roll a 1.

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Sometimes we roll a nat 20.

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Natural 20.

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And that's like, whoo! Those are those peak experience days.

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I don't think we're getting grades on this planet.

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First of all, think about how petty that would be on a universal scale.

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Like, if the universe is infinite and has infinite intelligence, why would it care what a singular human being did on any given day?

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Well, you would care on your growth as a being to become more.

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what does growth mean?

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Are you morally judging yourself?

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Yeah, based off of your stuff, yeah.

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are you morally, you really are, you're really going to be like that?

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Or are you going to say, I'm learning and I'm growing?

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which is a great way to think and I believe that, each person is fixated on a certain way and it's like you create your own path based off of what you're fixated on when you can just say, I'm just learning and I want to just experience and then become more, whatever that means, because I'll know as I become more, you don't you don't know what you don't

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because your job might be, be to be a jerk in this lifetime.

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That may be the, that may be the mission is to be what everybody else thinks is a jerk.

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Because we're here to

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heard that plenty of times.

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Yeah.

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So I can tell you from personal experience, when I came from a place of looking at life as right and wrong.

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And duality, good, bad, the binary existence, okay?

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Treating life like it was a set of binary code, right?

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Life was a lot harder.

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When I came to a different understanding, and it was like, I'm learning and growing, and it is an experience, and I can course correct to be more comfortable, and I don't mean...

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self satisfied as in like comfortable in comfort zone, but just like, Hey, if I keep doing this thing, I keep banging my head into a wall and that hurts.

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This hurts less.

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Life got easier.

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And so when I came from a space of moral judgment, because of religious training and cultural training and being raised as a girl where there's lots of social expectations on being good The fear of, in fact, I'll argue that virtue is our greatest shadow, that need to be seen as a good person, that need for people to be like, you know, like when you were a little kid and somebody was getting in trouble and there would be another little kid going, I'm not like that.

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I don't do bad things.

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And you'd beat them up afterwards.

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Right?

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That's shadow.

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That's ego.

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The desire to be seen as virtuous.

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And the more that can get deconstructed where you're just like, I'm human.

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It doesn't give you license to go out and be a jerk.

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Right?

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Because the more you self actualize, the more you'll be self aware, the more you'll be like, Hmm, that's maybe not the best thing to do today.

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That's probably going to have some consequences I don't want.

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You know, being aware of consequence but not holding yourself to the space where you fear an outcome.

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Yeah.

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Because I think the man that gets in our way, and it, that can hold us back.

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Sometimes we have to take a little step and trust the process and not worry about how it works out.

00:28:32.106 --> 00:28:40.336
So, you said you may have some predictions on what you Think could possibly happen in our near future.

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And would you care to share that?

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Yeah, you know, 2023 2024 2025 are all very, very volatile years.

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They continue to be volatile because what happened in 2020 was the basis of the world as we know it.

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Is, is the foundation has crumbled, okay?

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So everybody expects an apocalypse to happen all at once.

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I don't think we're going into a...

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I think we've been living in an apocalypse over the last 40 years, okay?

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I don't think we haven't been.

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water quality, air quality what's happening in the oceans you know, the toxification of the planet toxification of food sources, How is that not the apocalypse?

00:29:22.346 --> 00:29:35.576
Um, so, but what we're watching is, is thankfully a slower decline than I thought it would be 20 years ago when I was looking at these charts, because it scared the crap out of me 20 years ago.

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I had little kids.

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But you do, I don't think we're going to lose technology.

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So number one, I don't think we're going to lose tech.

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I don't think AI is going to take over.

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I don't think it's gonna kill us.

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I worry about corporations misusing it.

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But I don't worry about AI itself, okay?

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I worry more about human motivations.

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You've gotta grow your own food.

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This, it is not going to get better, and I've been warning about this for

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that?

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decades.

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Grow your own food.

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You may not be able to grow everything.

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If you live in an apartment, you can still grow things hydroponically.

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Okay.

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It doesn't take that much electricity.

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Okay.

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Make a budget.

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And, and I know that sounds elitist, but it's a lot more elitist to say go eat worms.

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Okay.

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Cause you probably don't want to eat the worms in the dirt at this point.

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Hey, there's there's speaking of, uh, electricity there.

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There's been a uptick in maybe it's my algorithm, but an uptick in YouTube videos of people showing you how to create an earth battery.

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So that's that is something that I think the patent for it was in 1908.

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So that's how old that tech is.

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Right.

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Oh, we've got all the technology we need to live.

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sustainably on this planet.

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And the oil companies have been squashing it since they could.

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I agree.

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I agree.

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Yeah, grow your own food.

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We're not going to lose currency.

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So I'm sorry, all of all of you guys who want fiat to go away is ain't going away until Pluto's in Taurus and that's in 2135.

00:31:13.192 --> 00:31:17.432
So sorry, guys, in our lifetimes, we're going to be dealing with currency.

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So you want to be sustainable there.

00:31:19.382 --> 00:31:21.461
Don't think your corporate job is going to keep you safe.

00:31:21.481 --> 00:31:25.602
It's not the more entrepreneurial you can be and the more you can pivot.

00:31:25.862 --> 00:31:28.402
Don't bitch because a chat bot took your job.

00:31:28.781 --> 00:31:29.481
You know what?

00:31:29.481 --> 00:31:30.356
It's Guess what?

00:31:30.356 --> 00:31:34.936
Horse drawn carriages, not a lot of jobs in there either.

00:31:34.936 --> 00:31:40.957
Now, the flint knapper, the flint knapper, everybody needed a flint knapper back, back in the day.

00:31:40.957 --> 00:31:41.696
Do you know what that is?

00:31:41.707 --> 00:31:44.646
That's somebody who made arrows.

00:31:45.642 --> 00:31:48.392
The arrowheads, that's called napping, okay?

00:31:48.392 --> 00:31:52.592
So they'd nap obsidian or they'd nap flint for stone tools.

00:31:52.602 --> 00:31:53.491
That went away too.

00:31:53.501 --> 00:31:56.501
Guys, there's people who do it, but not very many, it's kind of niche.

00:31:56.832 --> 00:31:58.771
Although knowing how to do it might be useful.

00:31:59.182 --> 00:32:01.201
So you want to grow your skills.

00:32:01.231 --> 00:32:07.271
I am a 54 year old woman, and if I have to build my own damn site and code it, I can.

00:32:07.281 --> 00:32:08.352
Do I do that?

00:32:08.352 --> 00:32:10.261
No, I use platforms, but can I?

00:32:10.271 --> 00:32:10.612
Yes.

00:32:11.162 --> 00:32:13.711
Keep up to date on your skills and adapt.

00:32:13.721 --> 00:32:15.672
Don't bitch about the state of the world.

00:32:15.721 --> 00:32:16.481
Adapt to it.

00:32:16.771 --> 00:32:20.451
Because we're about to change excessively rapidly.

00:32:20.461 --> 00:32:25.402
Also be very careful about being caught up in the outrage machines through the media.

00:32:26.366 --> 00:32:26.936
I like that.

00:32:26.936 --> 00:32:27.537
Outrage.

00:32:27.537 --> 00:32:29.457
Mis outrage.

00:32:29.517 --> 00:32:30.477
Machines.

00:32:30.922 --> 00:32:31.132
hmm.

00:32:31.132 --> 00:32:31.912
Mm hmm.

00:32:31.971 --> 00:32:34.692
That's to keep people busy.

00:32:35.842 --> 00:32:37.162
And distracted.

00:32:37.162 --> 00:32:38.531
I'm not saying don't be involved.

00:32:38.531 --> 00:32:56.912
In fact, I'm going to say, instead of focusing on federal elections, I would look at your local elections, who's on your school boards, who's on your water board, who's, if you have public utility districts who's involved in your planning commissions, you can be involved in those meetings, go to your town halls, because the people who are involved are the people who make the rules.

00:32:57.342 --> 00:33:12.442
As we move forward, closer into 2025, the need for collective action It is very, very important because it's going to be a 20 year run and I think we end up in 20 years looking a lot more like a Star Trek society.

00:33:12.761 --> 00:33:14.352
I don't think we're going to be out in space.

00:33:14.382 --> 00:33:16.241
I think we need to take care of this planet.

00:33:17.172 --> 00:33:24.432
It would make more logical sense, but I think we're going to be more collaborative and understand we have differences.

00:33:24.432 --> 00:33:28.501
We may not see eye to eye, but we can have good conflict resolution.

00:33:28.501 --> 00:33:30.892
And I think, I think that's where we're heading.

00:33:30.951 --> 00:33:36.211
Unfortunately, it's going to take a crisis point and that crisis comes through climate.

00:33:36.332 --> 00:33:37.652
I don't care how it got started.

00:33:37.652 --> 00:33:39.662
We can argue all day long about how it started.

00:33:39.672 --> 00:33:40.892
I don't care.

00:33:42.031 --> 00:33:43.652
The fact remains.

00:33:44.432 --> 00:33:46.211
Weather systems have changed.

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I don't care what the source is.

00:33:47.942 --> 00:33:49.602
We're dealing with the effect.

00:33:49.612 --> 00:33:56.372
So you want to be able to adapt and change with that, whether it's how you live in your neighborhood.

00:33:56.852 --> 00:34:33.659
We, we have to, we have to communicate more with one another and we, we don't have to go tell other people how to live necessarily But we have to be understanding that if we don't collaborate in some way and cooperate instead of fighting over resources well, the more we fight, the more losses there's going to be, and I think we're going to see a lot of people die in the next five years to floods, droughts not just in the developing world, which obviously they're at the greatest risk but also in less Thank you.

00:34:33.659 --> 00:34:33.666
Thanks.

00:34:33.947 --> 00:34:37.927
well developed parts of this country due to, again, storms.

00:34:39.516 --> 00:34:41.626
The wheat harvest globally failed this year.

00:34:43.862 --> 00:34:44.702
Not surprise.

00:34:45.097 --> 00:34:47.306
yeah, Italy has a pasta shortage, guys.

00:34:48.641 --> 00:34:48.882
French.

00:34:48.882 --> 00:34:50.862
McDonald's can't make french fries guys.

00:34:51.382 --> 00:34:51.952
Right?

00:34:52.612 --> 00:34:56.021
You know, it's not just the ice cream machine that's broken now.

00:34:56.492 --> 00:35:00.992
You know, and so there are simple things you can do to make yourself comfortable.

00:35:01.021 --> 00:35:03.242
Don't doom about it either though.

00:35:03.541 --> 00:35:05.322
You know, pardon me for being an Xer.

00:35:05.331 --> 00:35:07.052
We were raised for apocalypses.

00:35:08.331 --> 00:35:11.141
You know, we're just like, okay, roll up your sleeves and do it.

00:35:11.141 --> 00:35:13.172
But I think the whining I hear.

00:35:13.867 --> 00:35:18.786
And I know this sounds really intolerant, but I'm getting over a cold, so, like, my nice filter is gone.

00:35:19.367 --> 00:35:20.856
We need people to stop whining.

00:35:20.867 --> 00:35:24.286
I'm tired of hearing people, Oh, I'm living, I'm tired of historic times.

00:35:24.902 --> 00:35:27.382
There hasn't been a person on the planet who hasn't lived through historic times.

00:35:27.382 --> 00:35:28.581
Have you read a history book?

00:35:28.952 --> 00:35:30.942
Ask your grandma, ask your great grandma.

00:35:30.942 --> 00:35:33.112
You know, hold a seance if you have to.

00:35:33.112 --> 00:35:33.981
Let them tell you.

00:35:34.282 --> 00:35:38.902
My great grandmother didn't have wrinkles on her knuckles because of washboards.

00:35:39.041 --> 00:35:40.652
So cry about hard times.

00:35:40.652 --> 00:35:43.242
You got a washer and a dryer, thank God for that.

00:35:43.762 --> 00:35:45.481
Yeah, and she wasn't poor.

00:35:46.702 --> 00:35:48.391
But that just was life.

00:35:48.992 --> 00:35:50.302
That was life.

00:35:50.331 --> 00:35:52.121
She's saying to her washing machine.

00:35:52.121 --> 00:35:54.181
She was born in 1899.

00:35:54.282 --> 00:35:54.811
Okay.

00:35:54.947 --> 00:35:57.987
to have wrinkles, Just wash your clothes manually with your

00:35:58.112 --> 00:36:00.612
on a washboard on a washboard, right?

00:36:00.842 --> 00:36:02.331
I mean they were smooth.

00:36:03.271 --> 00:36:05.242
So I think people need to understand.

00:36:06.177 --> 00:36:11.407
Yes, it's kind of scary to go through this kind of change, but you've been living in an artificial reality.

00:36:11.507 --> 00:36:20.246
Anyway it wasn't ever natural and normal for human beings to go into offices and it wasn't normal and natural 100 years ago.

00:36:20.246 --> 00:36:21.547
It wasn't normal and natural.

00:36:22.447 --> 00:36:24.516
Okay, only a few people did that.

00:36:24.706 --> 00:36:29.896
100 years ago, so I don't think we all have to go back to the land.

00:36:30.117 --> 00:36:31.867
And if you've ever gone, I've done that.

00:36:33.206 --> 00:36:35.047
It's not for me either, I'm a tech geek.

00:36:35.586 --> 00:36:36.197
But,

00:36:36.416 --> 00:36:38.896
meaning, like, like, a homestead type

00:36:38.936 --> 00:36:44.376
yeah, homesteading where you have to drill your well, go grab your water from a bucket.

00:36:45.146 --> 00:36:47.507
I mean, come on, no, that's a lot of hard work.

00:36:47.987 --> 00:36:51.056
Little House on the Prairie sounds fun until you're doing it.

00:36:51.246 --> 00:37:01.106
I like the idea of a hybrid of both where you're connected to the land with technology that allows you to continue being comfortable, right?

00:37:01.126 --> 00:37:03.396
Learning from the past so that you can, you don't have to,

00:37:03.476 --> 00:37:04.757
A hundred percent.

00:37:04.806 --> 00:37:05.902
Understanding, yeah.

00:37:06.362 --> 00:37:07.521
Yeah, exactly.

00:37:07.581 --> 00:37:11.431
And, and there's some great examples out there, understanding permaculture.

00:37:11.842 --> 00:37:20.331
Again, as an astrologer, and I know I didn't talk a lot about astrology on here, but honestly, I'm kind of excited about it because I'm a meta, I do a lot of other stuff besides astrology.

00:37:20.331 --> 00:37:27.632
I help people work on these plans, like if they wanted to do something about that, like how they could do that specifically for them.

00:37:28.211 --> 00:37:37.652
But, you need to know a lot about a lot of things to be a good astrologer because every symbol in that chart represents 100, 000 different things.

00:37:37.692 --> 00:37:40.371
And so the more, you know, the better you can interpret.

00:37:40.391 --> 00:37:43.271
And so if somebody wanted to live off grid, I'd be like.

00:37:44.956 --> 00:37:52.407
Do you, you know, you don't do well in the middle of the plains, you would be happier in the forest or somebody else.

00:37:52.407 --> 00:37:53.237
I mean, like, you know what?

00:37:53.237 --> 00:37:55.097
You're going to feel claustrophobic around trees.

00:37:55.536 --> 00:37:58.266
You know, you need to be out in the Great Plains.

00:37:58.266 --> 00:38:02.067
You can do an earthen structure where you don't have to worry about tornadoes.

00:38:02.436 --> 00:38:08.976
That would be, you know, instead of saying my idea of how to live, I'm looking at what works best for the person.

00:38:09.347 --> 00:38:10.077
Interesting.

00:38:10.427 --> 00:38:11.947
although I don't get a lot of people like that.

00:38:14.192 --> 00:38:15.422
That's what we would do.

00:38:15.581 --> 00:38:16.501
I'm prepared.

00:38:16.512 --> 00:38:17.641
I'm ready for it.

00:38:18.251 --> 00:38:18.862
But yeah.

00:38:19.623 --> 00:38:21.213
so two things that popped up.

00:38:21.224 --> 00:38:24.833
One, you said currency is not going away as far as fiat.

00:38:24.893 --> 00:38:31.864
And does that include as far as what's staying crypto?

00:38:32.304 --> 00:38:35.164
Because that is a currency as what it's being used for.

00:38:35.164 --> 00:38:36.614
But there's so many different usages.

00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:47.159
Crypto is really interesting, um, because it is a currency, like people, I've been around the Bitcoin bros for a long time and I'm like, it's still a currency.

00:38:49.489 --> 00:38:52.298
They treat it both like a commodity and like a currency.

00:38:52.768 --> 00:38:55.048
So if you're exchanging it for something, guess what?

00:38:55.329 --> 00:38:55.619
Currency.

00:38:56.748 --> 00:38:58.329
Shells were currency once.

00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:09.869
Just saying, but anyway, pardon the sarcasm, but next April, April 25th and 26th, Jupiter and Uranus are conjunct.

00:39:12.179 --> 00:39:22.009
Crypto could blow all the way up and hit a peak and go like, like Bitcoin could go right back up to 64, which it doesn't look likely right now, right?

00:39:22.048 --> 00:39:23.039
But it could.

00:39:24.418 --> 00:39:27.219
And I think that is the possible.

00:39:27.643 --> 00:39:29.554
Or it can completely wipe out.

00:39:30.304 --> 00:39:39.614
It's hard to know because when we're talking about Uranus, otherwise known as Uranus, and the reason I call it Uranus is because of the Uranus jokes, and yes, they're funny, but, you know, we're on,

00:39:39.728 --> 00:39:40.528
hard not to laugh right?

00:39:40.528 --> 00:39:40.789
now.

00:39:41.208 --> 00:39:41.389
I'm

00:39:41.744 --> 00:39:42.634
I can tell, right?

00:39:42.744 --> 00:39:44.574
It's kind of a wild card energy.

00:39:45.384 --> 00:39:46.164
I have...

00:39:46.989 --> 00:39:52.728
Because I have, I, there was a while where I was doing, like, crypto predictions for my patrons, right?

00:39:53.168 --> 00:39:55.349
And so I invested, right?

00:39:55.358 --> 00:39:58.559
I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna give a prediction about something I don't have any skin in the game.

00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:02.309
So I don't do stock predictions, because I hate the stock market, and I'm not gonna play with it.

00:40:02.329 --> 00:40:05.369
So, I don't, I don't want BlackRock to have more of my money.

00:40:05.798 --> 00:40:06.548
Or Vanguard.

00:40:06.829 --> 00:40:11.440
But I invested what I would have spent on lunch when I was working back in 2020.

00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:17.150
And when we went to work from home, I just put the money I spent on lunch into crypto and I actually did pretty well.

00:40:17.539 --> 00:40:18.829
I'm holding it right now.

00:40:19.530 --> 00:40:20.579
I don't have that much in.

00:40:21.619 --> 00:40:22.489
I'm just holding.

00:40:23.690 --> 00:40:26.849
And because I have a feeling it may jump.

00:40:26.980 --> 00:40:28.769
Notice I'm using conditional language.

00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:30.940
It may jump April 25th.

00:40:30.969 --> 00:40:33.250
Otherwise I'd sell it because it's been, you know.

00:40:34.949 --> 00:40:35.809
Not doing well.

00:40:35.860 --> 00:40:39.090
And, and I do feel we have a billionaire war going on.

00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:48.760
So, and it's being fought those, what they call the whales, I think, are fighting it out and you know, they, they, you have to be really careful.

00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:55.769
Don't listen to talking heads, you know, and that could include Elon Musk, whatever, um, because they're very self interested.

00:40:55.780 --> 00:41:01.380
So when they're trying to hype you up on something like doge or whatever, don't think it's for your benefit.

00:41:02.005 --> 00:41:02.474
Okay.

00:41:02.525 --> 00:41:03.014
Ever.

00:41:03.545 --> 00:41:06.934
They would not be billionaires if they cared about other people's benefit.

00:41:06.974 --> 00:41:07.405
Okay.

00:41:07.405 --> 00:41:10.184
It just, those two don't work well together.

00:41:10.635 --> 00:41:12.315
So be careful with that.

00:41:12.324 --> 00:41:17.894
I know I'm sure there's a lot of people who are Elon Musk fans, but he's

00:41:19.994 --> 00:41:21.695
Let's just hope there's a change of hearts

00:41:23.155 --> 00:41:23.385
not that smart.

00:41:23.735 --> 00:41:30.864
You know, it may, I've looked at his chart, it may not be, it may not be his job to have a change of heart.

00:41:30.875 --> 00:41:32.445
It may not be his job to care.

00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:44.659
It may be his job to be doing exactly like when you, again, I may not personally be fond of that person's personality, but from a spiritual perspective, there's no judgment on my end.

00:41:44.909 --> 00:41:47.849
There's no judgment on most people that people don't like.

00:41:47.860 --> 00:41:48.989
Even axe murderers.

00:41:49.809 --> 00:41:52.130
That may be exactly their job.

00:41:52.139 --> 00:41:53.159
You don't know why.

00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:55.989
You don't know what agreement was made.

00:41:56.635 --> 00:42:00.034
You don't know, it doesn't mean I have to like it.

00:42:00.034 --> 00:42:03.605
It doesn't mean I think they need to go without consequences in the physical plane.

00:42:04.114 --> 00:42:11.375
But from a spiritual perspective, nobody can give an answer as to what purpose it served.

00:42:11.875 --> 00:42:21.125
And so I think when we moralize and we try to project our idea of morality on the universe, it's a very slippery slope.

00:42:21.235 --> 00:42:22.815
It's always gonna be skewed.

00:42:23.250 --> 00:42:23.429
It's

00:42:23.434 --> 00:42:24.385
Mm hmm.

00:42:24.494 --> 00:42:24.954
Yeah.

00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:27.869
Man, oh man.

00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:28.760
I'm like, ah.

00:42:29.420 --> 00:42:32.809
There's one question I wanted to ask because you're talking about climate.

00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:38.559
And yes, there's lots of things that are going on.

00:42:38.610 --> 00:42:40.190
Bad things, climate wise.

00:42:40.219 --> 00:42:41.289
And it's increasing.

00:42:41.659 --> 00:42:48.409
And there is that thought and understanding with cycles of a solar flare.

00:42:49.005 --> 00:42:53.025
And I know, I know someone might have mentioned it.

00:42:53.394 --> 00:42:56.764
And it's one of those things where you're like, technology's not going anywhere.

00:42:57.375 --> 00:43:01.465
a solar flare can really damage technology.

00:43:01.929 --> 00:43:05.789
Yeah, it might be down for a while, but if we don't get rid of it forever, it can damage it.

00:43:05.844 --> 00:43:07.195
oh yeah, I'm sure, yeah, I mean,

00:43:07.570 --> 00:43:09.440
That's why I have spare computers.

00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:11.400
I have computers that aren't turned on.

00:43:13.579 --> 00:43:14.940
I, I purchased tech.

00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:24.150
In 2021, knowing that the chipsets, which by the way, chipsets were already in trouble pre pandemic because I worked in that industry.

00:43:24.150 --> 00:43:25.539
I worked in the hardware industry.

00:43:26.469 --> 00:43:30.789
I already knew that was, well, I have extra, I have extra machines.

00:43:30.980 --> 00:43:33.139
So, And they don't get turned on.

00:43:33.300 --> 00:43:33.920
They're sitting there.

00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:35.059
They get turned on once in a while.

00:43:35.059 --> 00:43:36.199
Just make sure they're booting up.

00:43:36.929 --> 00:43:38.940
But yeah, I probably have four machines.

00:43:39.391 --> 00:43:42.222
I can totally see you putting it in the, uh, Faraday cage.

00:43:43.407 --> 00:43:51.246
I don't, well, I, yeah, one of them wouldn't fit in the microwave if I had to put it in there, but it's a 17 incher, so I might miss my,

00:43:51.692 --> 00:43:52.141
you know?

00:43:52.376 --> 00:43:52.396
Heh,

00:43:52.436 --> 00:43:54.137
right, just cover it over.

00:43:54.527 --> 00:44:02.206
But to be honest, I think we have bigger fish to fry if, if that happens, you need to understand how to read maps.

00:44:03.137 --> 00:44:03.856
Hmm.

00:44:03.947 --> 00:44:06.646
worry about younger people lacking life skills.

00:44:07.277 --> 00:44:09.117
I taught my kids all those skills.

00:44:09.117 --> 00:44:10.697
I taught them how to use a compass.

00:44:10.697 --> 00:44:25.806
I taught them medieval skills, whether it was using a, you know, hand spinning yarn, whether it was on a drop spindle, which, you know, or a spinning wheel, how to make fabric, how to cook, how to hunt, how to forage, and that was up in the Pacific Northwest.

00:44:25.806 --> 00:44:29.706
I live in Southern California now, and now I got to get books on it, because I don't know what's edible here.

00:44:30.217 --> 00:44:35.896
With, uh, yeah, foraging, um, I mean, I'm, I'm surprised you went as far as making your own clothes, you know?

00:44:36.097 --> 00:44:36.177
hmm.

00:44:37.556 --> 00:44:38.896
It was introduced to me.

00:44:38.896 --> 00:44:42.507
I had the, I, basically, if you have the opportunity to learn something, do it.

00:44:42.527 --> 00:44:44.777
And I'd always wanted to do it, and I learned how.

00:44:44.777 --> 00:44:51.697
And I, once I understood what went into buying fabric or making fabric I was like, well, that's really important to learn.

00:44:51.706 --> 00:44:52.717
You can make rope.

00:44:53.391 --> 00:44:55.072
You know, you can spin anything.

00:44:55.722 --> 00:45:03.512
And so, it also taught my kids an appreciation for, and they're adults now, but just for what you're wearing on your body.

00:45:03.612 --> 00:45:06.342
You know, how things are made, the processing of it.

00:45:06.961 --> 00:45:10.411
Just like you think, you know, some kids think milk comes from the store.

00:45:11.181 --> 00:45:19.751
You know, people just buy clothes but you don't realize what goes into growing cotton or making cotton into thread or, you know, sheep's wool or what have you.

00:45:20.666 --> 00:45:38.936
And so, teaching my kids how to do those things, people thought it was a little nuts, that, that they have a ton of skills that are transferable, they're quick to learn, they're able to pick up technologies at all levels, woodworking, you know, just learning, learning how to do a lot of things.

00:45:39.056 --> 00:45:39.387
Yeah.

00:45:39.777 --> 00:45:40.706
the mind too.

00:45:40.737 --> 00:45:53.217
You're talking about appreciation, you're talking about just, a mind expanded into, cuz if you know where things are and then you know what it used to be like, you can also slingshot into where it could, where it could get to.

00:45:53.637 --> 00:45:54.407
Mm hmm.

00:45:54.447 --> 00:46:00.806
because in a short period of time you went from doing stuff by hand to now not even being aware of how it's made.

00:46:01.106 --> 00:46:03.987
You can only imagine what the future's gonna look like.

00:46:04.467 --> 00:46:18.286
Yeah, we spoke about a couple of really good topics, so this is, I'm actually glad we went and just flowed with it and it's interesting how we went with like metaphysics, quantum physics like just questioning stuff that's awesome.

00:46:18.382 --> 00:46:18.461
I

00:46:18.586 --> 00:46:19.297
a good time.

00:46:19.371 --> 00:46:21.442
Yeah, thanks for coming on.

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is there anything that you're I want to close out and give you a chance to kind of share if there's anything that you're working on that if someone's trying to look for you and they liked the conversation and want to know more about you go ahead and share if there's anything you want to share.

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Yeah, so you can find me on Tik Tok.

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I'm at Astro Lori.

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And, that's kind of more entertaining astrology.

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I do political predictions mostly there cause that gets people's attention and it kind of sets me apart.

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Again, I've been an astrologer since 95 and a long time.

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She's old, but I also have a podcast called the awake space astrology podcast.

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And I kind of give weekly updates to keep people aware and prepared and kind of tell you how to kind of surf the cosmic tide.

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Knowing astrology will never prevent or make you immune from events.

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You can dodge some serious bullets.

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It basically allows you to travel.

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Probability much easier because we have possibility that's everything we got probability is a narrow field and you can avoid some of the less pleasant probabilities when you have that understanding and I try to just keep people informed and that's pretty much where I'm at my website is wokeastrology.

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com named on purpose so if you don't like that word that's just fine with me.

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And, And, and, and the fact that you're, you're just being yourself and you're just kind of going for it.

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And that's what I appreciate.

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and I like how we introduced the name of that website at the very end, because we went.

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Through a lot of topics and perspectives that are like they're on a very deep level that I know people that wouldn't like the name woke astrology, but they would love the conversation that we have.

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So I know that we've, we've got some people with question marks, you know, floating above their heads, like, like, uh, like the Sims,

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Yeah,

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you know, people are deeper than you, would think.

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woke is not a new concept.

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So, first of all, it started in the 60s, so it's, it's not a modern term,

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Just terms in general have different meanings for different people as well.

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You use it and someone's gonna say yes, someone's gonna say no,

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Mm hmm.

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and have, like, back to the filters.

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So, um, very cool stuff.

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Thank you, again for coming out, this was awesome.

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my pleasure.
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Laurie Rivers

Consulting Astrologer

Laurie Rivers is a consulting astrologer who focuses on merging the spiritual & physical experience, applying traditional astrology techniques with modern understanding of the power intrinsic in the human mind. Her work with professionals & entrepreneurs helps them navigate the current times of change while aligning with their highest present potential.