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there's a greater soul.
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So think of all life and then that soul breaks into many.
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And then there's the individual soul expression.
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one theory I've heard is, Your soul could be expressing through this physical body and another physical body in the 1500s and another physical body.
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And so, we could be experiencing the past, present, and the future simultaneously
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welcome to the New Age Human Podcast.
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I'm your host, Jon Astacio, and today we're talking with Laurie Rivers, who is a consulting astrologer who helps professionals and entrepreneurs navigate the changing times while aligning with their highest potential.
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So stick around to the whole thing, because here's some highlights and awakened story involving quantum entanglement and time travel, the topic of reincarnation and the soul's journey with cosmic influences.
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And at the very end, we talk about and elaborate on her predictions of the likely and probable future events based on her expertise in astrology.
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Before we begin, we have a Telegram channel where we discuss topics mentioned in the show, and more importantly, sharing the topics that are of most interest to you.
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And if you want to contact me, just go to NewAgeHuman.com.
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Let's get to the show! well, first of all, thank you for coming onto the show.
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This is awesome because, uh, we, uh, we you, we we were talking, uh, earlier about your in depth knowledge on astrology.
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And then just before I, I just had to hit record.
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Cause you're like, I, had my great awakening or greater awakening story with your quantum physics class.
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So let's dive into that.
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What is that story
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Oh my God.
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So, One, I never got to be asleep, just so you know that.
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I never had the luxury of not being aware.
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I was a weird kid.
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I started reading it too.
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I could see my quote unquote guides.
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Much like Sheldon Cooper, my mom had me tested, so I know I'm not crazy.
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We were kind of joking beforehand.
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I was like, if Amy Farrah Fowler and Sheldon Cooper had a baby, that would be me.
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From, the big Bang Theory, for
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from the Big Bang Theory,
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that yet.
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right?
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And, anyway, I was an international relations major.
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I went to university in England.
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And in fact, it was Hogwarts in the second film.
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So I've been to Hogwarts which was a major flex for my children.
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Um, but, um, it was famous for having the wall film there when I went to school there.
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So, which, that was very cool.
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the wall.
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can you elaborate on
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Pink Floyd's the wall.
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You know,
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Oh, all the music.
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Okay.
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I'm like, what wall?
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that wall?
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But anyway, one of the reasons I went there is, whereas I'm very good at conceptual math, And experimental math, when it comes to writing out calculations, I have dyscalculia, so I can plan trajectories in my head, but I cannot write them on paper, and I only had to take,
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What's this calcula?
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dyscalculia is kind of like dyslexia, but math.
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Okay.
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that's what I thought.
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Yeah.
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And so, but they didn't know what it was back then.
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Right?
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So I could give you all this great theory out of my head, but I could not write it down.
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So in order to get through my degree, I needed a science class and a math class.
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And I was studying with world famous international lawyers.
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And that's what I was focused on.
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I was a U.
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S.
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Middle East policy specialist when everybody was looking at the U.
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S.
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S.
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R.
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This is back 88.
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Through 90 because I did my degree really fast.
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But anyway, I had, I saw this science class called Natural Sciences and I was like, oh, biology.
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I can do that class and I get in and there's this very tiny old woman named Dr.
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Troller and Troller she was, She welcomes us to the class.
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She had a, she was Austrian by birth and she said, um, welcome to quantum mechanics theory.
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Oh, perfect.
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She has the axe And everything!
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Everything.
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And I, my hand shoots up and I'm like I'm a humanities major.
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I would like to be released from this class because I was a scholarship kid.
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This was a very expensive school.
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These kids were billionaires, kids, millionaires, kids.
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My dad was a firefighter.
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Okay, so I was like, I was there because I was smart.
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But I'm like, oh, excuse me.
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Can I lose my GPA?
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I'm like, I cannot get anything less than a B plus right now.
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And she was like, I don't let women out of my class.
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Shit.
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So, After class, I went to our office and I am, like, in heaving tears.
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I am 19 years old.
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I am, I am, I cannot afford to get a B or a C at this point, cause I already got my C.
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I made an economics professor angry.
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Actually, I made him cry.
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But, we won't go into that.
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But, um, it was kind of funny.
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But anyway, I go and I'm explaining.
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I was, I was explaining to her, you know, my hardship and what have you.
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And she didn't say a word.
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She rolls up her sleeve and there's a number of tattoos on her arm.
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Oh, is it, what is it, pie?
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served, no, it was an Auschwitz tattoo.
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Oh.
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You can't argue with that.
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And I was an international relations major.
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History was part of what, you know, we dove into.
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And I just stopped crying and went, Oh, crap.
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And she said, you know, you said you were classically trained musician.
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That was one of my arguments.
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You know, I'm a musician.
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I'm an analyst.
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I'm in my head, but I'm not good at math.
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There's engineers in this class.
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I'm going to lose on the bell curve.
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And she said, can you imagine smaller than small?
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And I said, yeah.
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And she was like, can you imagine bigger than big?
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I'm like, of course, because I used to do that in high school.
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My mom used to think I was on drugs.
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I'd lay on my bed and I would imagine the big bang.
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And I would imagine the, the, the force going out and expanding infinitely.
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And my mom would hear me go, Whoa.
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And she'd be like, let me see your eyes.
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I'd be like, I'm just blowing my own mind.
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but anyway.
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She said, use my office hours, but I'm not letting you out.
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This can change your life.
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And it did.
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No one had, when I, this was 89.
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This quantum physics was not a common discussion topic.
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You didn't have TV shows about it.
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Stephen Hawking's was barely a known name.
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And I'm not gonna lie.
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I think I cried more than I've ever cried in my life taking that class because my brain literally hurt, you know, the more I read, you know, now everybody talks about Schrodinger's cat.
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Nobody had ever talked to me about Schrodinger's cat.
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I grew up in Gladstone, Oregon.
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It had like 8, 000 people
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so for, for, those that don't know what that is, can you do like a side description of,
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Yeah, so Schrodinger's cat, Schrodinger's cat, it was postulated, and this has to do with particles and by the, or sub particles, which they've proven at the certain particle accelerator that something can exist and not exist at the same time.
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And it's based on percepts perceptions.
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So Schrodinger had this theory that he had a cat in a, in a box and it was both alive and dead at the same time.
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Go ahead and read the theory.
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Okay.
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And I remember reading it over and over.
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It's alive and it's dead all at the same time.
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You open the box and it's alive.
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You open the box and it's dead.
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You open them and I'm like, my brain was just flipping on this.
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It was just like, how the hell does that work?
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Um, and, Trying to understand like everybody when in 2012 when the Higgs boson was actually proven, right?
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And they call that the God particle.
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It's not the God particle.
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Higgs called it the goddamn particle because he couldn't find it.
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But when he published his work, they made him take the damn out.
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So people make this, especially in conspiracy theory land.
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Everybody's like, it's the God particle.
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It's like, no, it's the goddamn particle.
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That's what Higgs called it.
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Okay.
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I'm like, if you want to do your own research, people go do actual research.
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Don't just read Wikipedia.
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Okay.
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Just don't.
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It's not, it's not a primary source.
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There are things called books and we can read those too.
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But it was very exciting in 2012.
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By the way, I was on Twitter that day when it got announced and Higgs was alive to see his own theory proven.
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And that was really cool.
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But it was through this understanding.
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Of like a particle and I just remember seeing this in the book, I can still see it in my head today.
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It was a little description of like on this side of the universe, a sub particle that is charged in exactly the same way as this other sub particle on the other side of the universe could resonate and communicate across time and space and something clicked in me in a way That I don't know how to describe with words, but my brain changed forever with that it made sense.
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I had already left my religious background not funny enough because I didn't have a faith, but because that faith wasn't being followed in the institutions.
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And I was like, you know what?
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If you're going to be a good person, just be a good person.
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Don't do it for brownie points.
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If you're going to help people, just help people.
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Don't do it for brownie points.
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Don't do it to be seen as virtuous.
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And so.
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Yeah.
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My whole goal was studying, you know, like, even though I specialized because you had to specialize in something at the school.
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And so mine was U.
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S.
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Middle East policy.
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Everybody thought I was crazy because nobody cared about the Middle East back then.
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Until 1990.
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Which I predicted and not as an astrologer.
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So I was already a political analyst, right?
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Mm.
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But it was I knew if we could communicate better.
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If human beings could learn about perspective the reason I went overseas to study, even as an 18 year old, is I knew if I studied here, I would only be taught through the American set of lenses, like, so I wear glasses, right?
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So my lenses are set.
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I wanted to see it through another kind of lens.
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And I'm a true internationalist, which is different than a globalist, right?
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As an internationalist, it's understanding everybody's human and we all have different cultures.
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We may not see eye to eye, but if we can communicate, we can collaborate because we live on a floating rock in space.
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It has finite resources and we
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it.
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Some people, some people might say flat earth, but I, I just wanted, I want to say that to see your face for anybody who's watching, Well, we don't have to go there.
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You don't want
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wanted to throw it in there.
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um,
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is entitled to do whatever they will.
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I'm sure they've done their own research.
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Mm
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as a true internationalist would say.
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Right.
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so basically.
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we went from Schrodinger's cat, I hope I'm saying it right, and then you got triggered, or you got, uh, a great her, a wick, something, something
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unfolding, yeah, my mind just blew open.
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Wide
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technically quantum entanglement.
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Yes, that's what they call it today.
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I don't think it was called that back then, because I think string theory might have been in its infancy at that time.
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interesting.
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So, yeah, so by the time the Big Bang Theory hit television, you know, then everybody talks about it.
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You're like, wait a minute.
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I've been trying to talk about this with people forever and everybody thought I was crazy, you know, so, um, and I didn't study it as a scientist, you know, I studied it as a lay person, but it helped make sense of experiences I'd experienced metaphysically.
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it made time seem interesting because I had some experiences as a teenager, as an exchange
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into those experiences.
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I'm, I'm like, you're like, oh yeah, I had these amazing experiences,
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I did, uh, you know, and it's funny cause a lot of people when they hit spirituality, they want these things.
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I want you to understand.
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I never wanted them to happen.
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So at 15, I was an exchange student to Belgium and my host mom was an old countess.
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Okay.
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She was 76 years old and her name was Comtesse Gabrielle Delanois.
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Okay.
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Delano.
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She was, she had letters from Eleanor Roosevelt that I got to read, which was really kind of cool.
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Cause I was kind of a history nut at the time.
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She took me on a road trip to France and she took me to see Normandy and Brittany.
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Which was like when you see like Omaha beach, you know.
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That put things into perspective.
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That's one of the reasons I wanted to study international relations is you could still see like if you've like we went to the Ardennes as well in Belgium, you know, and you can still see the scarring from the tanks, you know, from World War II.
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And, and this was 85, you know, it was 40 years, you know, which is really scary.
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We're approaching 40 years from that damn time goes fast.
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Time travel.
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right.
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Time travel.
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So.
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I could feel certain amounts of things there, but I was also very emotional because I was a young woman and, you know, I was easily, you know, I was a crier.
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What can I say?
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And, yeah, we went through this medieval town, and as we were going down the road, I smelled smoke, and it was heavy, and it was thick, and then I saw smoke.
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Like, it was like, Like you're walking into like a forest fire era area almost and it was accurate and I'm coughing and I'm sputtering and nobody else's Like Tonk Abbey wasn't her girlfriend that came with us, you know, Tonk Dion and I mean, I don't mean girlfriend girlfriend I mean like they were friends Tonk Dion She wasn't, nobody was around me and I am coughing and hacking and my lungs are burning and I turn and I look and there's kind of this outline of a crowd because it's thick smoke and there's a pyre smoldering and Taunt Gabby.
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I'm like, don't you smell this?