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Dec. 12, 2023

Beyond the Veil: Discussing Spirit Guides, Parallel Lives and Prosperity | Jill K Thomas

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Journey into the mystique of spirit guides, parallel lives, and cultivating a prosperity mindset in this thought-provoking episode with certified hypnotherapist and clairvoyant, Jill K. Thomas.

In this episode, our guest, Jill K. Thomas, a certified hypnotherapist, intuitive coach, and clairvoyant, shares her extraordinary experiences and insights that challenge the conventional and open doors to new possibilities.

Episode Highlights:

  • [00:30] - Jill's Childhood Visions
  • [02:20] - The Hypnotherapy Path
  • [04:30] - Navigating Trauma and Spiritual Awakening
  • [07:20] - The Concept of Parallel Lives
  • [11:00] - Bridging the Corporate and Spiritual Worlds.
  • [14:30] - Encounters with Spirit Guides
  • [19:10] - The Journey to Self-Discovery
  • [22:50] - A Glimpse into Jill's Personal Challenges
  • [27:10] - Prosperity Mindset in Uncertain Times

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I did not jump out of my body all the time.

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To my recollection, the only time that I remember doing it, but at a pretty young age, if you can see spirit guides and you can hear them.

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The word weird starts to get pretty relative, right?

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And when you're talking to people who don't have bodies anymore, but they were on earth at one point, you know, you, things start to be less and less weird

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All right.

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Welcome to the New Age Human podcast.

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I'm your host, Jon Astacio.

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And today we're talking with Jill K Thomas, who's a certified hypnotherapist an intuitive coach and a clairvoyant.

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It's really cool.

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Cause we actually go into some childhood experiences that will blow your mind and leave you wondering, okay, that was weird.

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Um, so yeah, in the episode we do talk about that and we also speak on her experiences as a clairvoyant, like I just said, hint, hint, uh, the concept of parallel lives and tips on shifting into a more prosperity mindset.

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Now, if you're an entrepreneur or aspiring entrepreneur, especially in the metaphysical space, the woo woo zone, you'll appreciate this episode.

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Now, if you want to support the show, you can always go to apple podcast and leave us a five star review it helps out the show a lot and get more reach.

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So I appreciate it.

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If you do that now, without further ado, let's get to the show.

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welcome to the show.

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I'm excited to have you on.

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Uh, I love the subject matter of hypnotherapy, clairvoyance and all the Claire's.

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But I want to know, um, for the audience.

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I'm sure they're, they're wondering, like, how did you get there as, as, as a clairvoyant or as someone that talks about like hypnotherapy, like what was your, I guess, briefly your journey into that.

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Yeah.

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Well, there's two different journeys.

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The, the psychic stuff, I've always been intuitive.

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Ever since I was a little kid, I had an out of body experience.

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It's not the near death thing.

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Story that you've heard, I'm sure a million times.

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This is when I consciously jumped out of my body because I was having a bad experience, I was in a fight with my parents.

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Right.

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I was like, I don't want to, I don't want to be around these people anymore.

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So peace out, whatever I thought I was going to sign up for.

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I don't want to do it anymore.

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And I remember.

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The spirit guide that I encountered, I said, I can't do this.

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You basically, here's the keys, you know, here's the car.

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I'm turning it back over to the bank.

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I don't want it.

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And he said, you can't do that because your mom would freak out.

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Your brother needs you.

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I'll tell you what spirit actually made a deal with me.

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If you go back in, jump back in, I will make it so that you can see spirit guides and you're going to be able to hear them and you'll be able to see yours and other people's.

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And I'm like, okay.

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And then I'll, then you'll know that you're not alone.

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So ever since I was a little kid, I had seen spirit guides.

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Now being able to see spirit guides and being able to do a good psychic reading are two different things.

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I went to school to learn how to do the second one because Up until then, I was getting a lot of random information, but the person in front of me might want to know about something very specific, like their job.

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And I'm like, Oh, I'm seeing a car.

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I'm seeing you going out to dinner with a girlfriend.

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The spirit is like, no, no, no.

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The guy's like, I want to know about should I be dating Bob or Bill?

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Right?

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That kind of thing.

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Um, now the hypnotherapy actually came later in life.

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When I was in high school, they had a grad night, one of those all night parties and Marshall Silver, who's kind of a famous hypnotherapist or hypnotist.

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I gave a presentation and I watched the most popular kids in school do some batshit crazy things.

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And I was like, I want in.

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That's the matrix.

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I want, I want, it's like, it's like a Jedi mind trick.

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I want to learn that.

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Right.

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And it turns out it's not a Jedi mind trick.

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Anybody can do it.

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But I, that's how I started learning hypnotherapy.

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And way before I was ever certified and could start seeing clients, I was already learning it because I'd read every book and I watch every, every VHS.

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Some of you guys know what I'm talking about with those, right?

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Other people don't know.

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What is that?

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That's not that shiny silvery, this thing.

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No, no, it's not just to let you know, just to let you know, it's not.

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Uh, but yeah, I was, I could have taught that class by the time I actually took it when I was 30, but that's, that's really where I started.

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Wow.

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So, reeling it back, going to, you had an out of body experience, an OBE, and you're probably, did you do that often as a kid?

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And then, it would, did it get just too weird?

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Or, like, what made you get fed up?

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Um, I was having trauma.

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My family was not the most functional.

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I'm sure everybody has heard this story before and I will spare you the details.

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But I jumped out of my body because I was like, I just can't handle these people.

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These people are nuts.

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You know, I'm using child terms, right?

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But a two year old understands the concept of crazy pretty well.

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I will say that I did not jump out of my body all the time.

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That was the, to my recollection, the only time that I remember doing it, but at a pretty young age, if you can see spirit guides and you can hear them.

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The word weird starts to get pretty relative, right?

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Because you, your concept of weird gets changed quite a bit when you're seeing things that other people can't.

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And when you're talking to people who don't have bodies anymore, but they were on earth at one point, you know, you, things start to be less and less weird.

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That makes sense.

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And, were you jumping out of your body, like, Like mid stride or was it when you went to sleep?

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I'm thinking like, you're like, these people are crazy and you're just watching your, your, your family go nuts.

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And then like, you just leave your body.

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Like, like, when do you leave your body?

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Okay.

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I was, uh, I'd had, my father was physically abusive and I was laying in bed after a particularly bad, physically abusive incident when I was physically.

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In pain, bruising, bruises from what had happened and I'm like, I, I know, I said I would do this, but I don't want to, so I, I kind of just spontaneously jumped out and said, you know, here, here you go.

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I don't like it.

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I'm not going to do it.

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But, but really when, when the, the being, and I can't say which one it was.

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Approach me and talk to me about it.

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And he said, it will get better.

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And it did.

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As soon as my brother got a little bit older, he and I are fairly close in age.

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My parents calmed down a bit and it was not as bad, but it was never good.

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That's okay.

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It's not surprising to, um, see people with gifts and extraordinary talents come about those talents and gifts after traumatic experiences.

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It's like the beginning story of every, like, Marvel hero, right?

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Oh, I know, and I can, I, I have a theory on that, and I might be wrong, but my theory is that every child is intuitive, but when you're having to determine if it's safe to walk across a room, you're going to turn that gift on high, full blast and keep it on.

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And unfortunately, that's where the word sensitive comes into play when I hate that word because it's really intuitive, right?

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Persons intuition gets turned up to full blast because they need to understand if they're safe in their environment because when they were a kid, they weren't.

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And unfortunately, later on in life, this can become anxiety because now you're going to the grocery store, and you're feeling, especially around the holidays, oh my god, and you're feeling everybody's anxiety, they're worried about money, oh my gosh, I can't believe how much food costs now, and you're picking up everybody's fertilizer.

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And thinking it's yours.

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And that can be part of what happens.

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I, I, my theory is that that's a big part of what general anxiety disorder is, but I'm not a doctor, so don't take that as medical advice.

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Yeah.

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a human and you've lived a life and you're still living,

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Yes, yes.

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That's the plan.

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Yes.

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For a long time.

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I got.

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I got to fix what I just,

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I'm eating my veggies.

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um, but yeah, it's, it's interesting.

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And I, and I like your perspective and I, I'm pretty sure you're not alone in that.

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Cause.

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I feel the same for you.

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I, my sensitivity turned on when I was around two or three, when my parents divorced.

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And then I went from inner city, New York to the suburbs of Connecticut around four or five.

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So major difference like night and day.

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The culture wise and then like, where's the parents?

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Where am I staying?

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Blah, blah, blah.

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So I, I'm, I'm deaf.

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I definitely feel that you there, but I didn't go through the same experience as you.

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Um, and I did not go out of my body as often as you did, but going back to going out of your body.

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Cause I think that's fascinating.

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Um, what, and I'm sure people are wondering, what do the spirit guys look like?

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How did you identify them?

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Was it.

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A relationship that built over time, trust, like all that.

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What is that?

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What's going on there?

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So, so sometimes when I see a client, sometimes the spirit guide will show themselves to me in a certain way because it's some, it has a meaning to that client.

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So I'll give you an example of something I see a lot.

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Whenever I see a Samoan guide, every once in a while I see.

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Basically rock right up here in front of me.

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It tells me something about that person.

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Typically that person has some Samoan ancestry.

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I almost always see a Samoan guide with a Samoan person with Samoan ancestry somewhere.

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Um, but also it also tells me that they've had a rough life because Samoan guides very much look and present themselves like the rock in a lot of ways.

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Very solid, very powerful.

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And they want the person to feel that warrior energy around them all the time.

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So if somebody's had a rough life, and I see a Simone guide, God, if I see two, I'm like, I'm really sorry, I'm really sorry you had a rough life, but that, that says something to me, but a lot of times, a lot of times they're just colors, a lot of times they're not necessarily male or female, sometimes it's almost androgynous, occasionally it looks like an alien.

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Um, when I see that, it's because the person should know that they have alien ancestry.

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They're from the, maybe they're not from around here, right?

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Yeah, love

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from the Pleiades or from Sirius, but they, sometimes they will present themselves the way they, not necessarily the way they are, but because if I tell the client what I see, it means something to them that's important for them.

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If that makes sense.

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Right.

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And, um, as my coffee kicks in, um, I'm, I'm guessing that you see other people's spirit guides and that's how you communicate and you help bridge that connection.

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Yeah.

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And I, it, I will tell you, and I think most mediums would say the same thing.

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That I have gotten good at turning it off, so that if, unless the person has booked a sacred appointment and I have been given permission, by mere fact the person booked an appointment, they don't really, it's hard to get my attention, unless I have permission, because I'm not going to the grocery store and want to snoop at all these people that are in line, it's not my business, and I don't want to do that, not only that, it's just It's private, everybody's privacy, everybody's entitled their privacy.

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But yeah, I, I do see the guides around and up until I was seven or eight, I didn't realize other people just didn't see this stuff, you know, I'll see spirit guides, occasionally I'll see dead grannies, dead grannies are really actually that not that hard to see, I mean, because they've been dead for a while.

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Right.

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If somebody just died on Thursday, they haven't quite figured out how to like.

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Be real present to the other person as in a, in a way that somebody like me could see.

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Hmm.

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Interesting.

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But a granny's been on the other side for a while.

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She's had some practice.

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Um, so, uh, where do you, did you, so this started when you were younger, did you go into like a, a traditional life career and then say, hey, Move into this, like, can you briefly share that

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Yes.

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I had a, I had a very, very traditional corporate job at some point.

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I was a car insurance agent.

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So I sold, I sold software.

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I worked in the vitamin industry for a long time on the, on the.

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manufacturing side.

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So I would look at products and figure out how to market them to clients or figure out the kinds of things people wanted to buy and we would help create products for that.

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So I had a very, very corporate job and I really think a lot of the next batch of healers are coming from that corporate world, which is why I have a passion for helping people bridge that gap because I think a lot of them.

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Sitting in corporate America in a cubicle right now, I think I can't possibly be an astrologer, even though I do it on the side.

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And I have so much fun with it because I come from Google or, or all state or, you know, something very, very conventional.

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But I, I really got to tell you that is not the case.

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You can absolutely use those corporate marketing skills, those people skills, the fact that you seem normal, right?

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And become, and become anything you want to do, no matter how weird and woo woo it really is.

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Yeah.

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And it does sound like, um, you're describing the waves of people, right?

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You have the pioneers that slept outside, went camping and grew their hair past their elbows.

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And then you have the millennials that have them as grandparents or parents and move getting out of those corporate careers and having this.

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Seeing just a new world collide with the old and wanting nothing.

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With it.

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I'm, I guess, considered an elder millennial.

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Right?

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And so I, I feel you where you're coming from, um, where you have that passion to help people get out of their career and to end into something more fulfilling.

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What, what was there like a trigger point, a day you remember?

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When you left that world and went into world of what you're doing now,

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uh, so I, I didn't just leave that world, I bridged.

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And, and I will tell you, every time, those of you who've gone to a psychic and had the psychic say, Hey, you should start a business doing this yourself.

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Spirit doesn't mean, right now.

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Spirit means, work your way over there, because spirit doesn't want you having to live in your car, okay?

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Take your corporate job money, Get your training, start your business, your side hustle.

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We can all use a side hustle right now.

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I mean, economy is kind of going to be dumpster fire status here pretty quick.

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And, and it is always wise to work your way over there.

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So I didn't just one day leave.

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Uh, at one point I did get laid off.

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I spent a couple of years, uh, trying to find another job.

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I don't know if you guys remember 2007, way back then, there weren't a lot of jobs for people like me in sales.

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So, I was in the state of California.

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As long as you are honest about your earnings, at the time, you were able to keep your business as long as you didn't increase your hours, and you didn't, uh, and you reported every penny, which I did.

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I was completely honest.

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IRS, I was completely honest.

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I really was,

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For the record

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For the record, I really was completely honest.

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But eventually I just gave up trying to find a job.

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And my business was started to really grow after that.

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Cause then I was able to put in the hours.

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I'm like, I'm, I'm not even looking anymore and I'm not collecting unemployment.

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Now I can say I'm working 40 hours a week and start really doing it.

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that's awesome.

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Um, let's get into a cool subject matter that I think would be fascinating.

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Witches past law lives and parallel lives.

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I'm familiar with parallel lives, but.

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Very few times do I hear people talking about it.

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So what are your thoughts on those subjects?

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You know, I started researching parallel lives because I was doing past life regression therapy.

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And I don't know how many times somebody would come, you know, we do a past life.

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Quote, past life and the person would say that they were 15 in, you know, 1995 and I look at the person and I go, okay, wait, this person's age doesn't matter.

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They're not 15 and 19.

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This is a parallel life.

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Right?

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So, and at first I thought this is crazy, right?

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This can't be a thing.

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Because now past lives, now that's a thing, but you start to examine your beliefs and you realize, okay, I believe that a virgin had a kid.

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I believe that I've been a lot of different people over lifetime.

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How is parallel life thinking that that is a thing?

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How is that really that different, right?

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You realize that, okay, if my soul can reincarnate over and over again, why can't it reincarnate into five different versions of me at the same time?

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Um, so parallel lives is really.

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The idea that, that everybody, and I would say every person I've seen in my office has had five or six of these, at least, probably more, but that's usually what comes up when we're, when we're doing the regression, uh, you might be a 13 year old boy in, in, in Arkansas.

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You might be a 75 year old woman in Michigan.

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You might be all of those things at the same time, having different experiences, gaining different knowledge.

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Imagine you're an advanced soul.

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And I'm going to, I'm going to go on a limb here and say that it takes a level of.

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Of spiritual maturity on the part of the soul to be able to do more than one lifetime at the same time.

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Especially multiple genders, as you were

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Hello.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So imagine that and you want to learn 75 things.

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You want to experience 75 different things.

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Well, you can't in one lifetime.

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That's a lot, right?

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Maybe I'll just do 30 over here.

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15 over here.

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These, the last 10 are kind of hard.

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Let's just confine that to one.

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Let's just give this one guy 10, right?

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And, and learn and grow that way with all of that extra experience all at the same time.

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So why wouldn't you want to do that?

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That reminds me of the movie, everything, everywhere, all

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I loved that movie.

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That was a great movie.

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You

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And that can hurt your head if you're not used to

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I know.

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thinking about that.

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I've had a response of, I love that movie.

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And I had the response of, I had to walk away from it because, you know, head explosion emoji, right?

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Um, and I'm just like, I'll watch it again.

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Like,

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There were some really funny parts of that movie.

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I'm just thinking of one in particular that I will not describe because it's going on YouTube, but but y'all who are seeing it are already picturing this one particular scene.

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Yes.

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Awesome.

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And for people that didn't see that movie, it's pretty much exactly the same thing.

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This woman is getting access to, and I don't want to give any too much spoilers, but she's getting access to parallel versions of herself and also getting access to the skills and pulling them to her current life.

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I think that's awesome.

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Um, what are your thoughts on that?

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Have you ever worked with someone to help that happen?

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Or is it one of those things where like you're aware of it and are, have you ever like done that for somebody?

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Like, is that even

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I wanted to do it for myself.

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I wanted to, cause like, social media.

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Like, that's just not my jam.

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I may end up having to pay somebody to do this for me.

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This is not my thing, so I thought I'd do it.

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There's a version of me out there who's a total nerd and is, knows how to do all of this stuff.

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How can I grab that version?

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And what I, I could grab, I could find that version of me, but I couldn't necessarily grab the skills.

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What I could grab was the, the concept that it wasn't that hard.

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Uh, I can grab the con, there's another version of me that is a badass bee.

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This is much more confident than I am.

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And also very, very pretty.

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I've kind of gotten a good picture of her.

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Uh, I can grab her confidence, her poise and her sense of, of Uh, entitlement, which I kind of need sometimes because I, I have a sense of not being entitled to things that sometimes isn't exactly healthy.

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But yeah, you can't necessarily grab those video editing skills because I wanted that.

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That's what I wanted.

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Um, but you can grab the confidence or the energy of it or the expectation that you can do it.

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If that makes sense.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I can totally, uh, give respect to the challenge of just snatching that because there's a reason you'll just destroy the balance of this life versus that life.

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So you're gonna bleed walls, and I can see that getting a little messy,

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Right?

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And in spirit, you're, honestly, your higher self is gonna kibosh that if you ever got close to actually doing any damage.

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So don't worry about it.

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Trust me, higher self is in charge.

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They're gonna put a stop to that.

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Pull that cord before you got anywhere near dangerous zone.

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All right.

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So let's go crazy.

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Okay, let's go crazy.

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Have some

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Let, let them pull us, let them pull the cord and not like the big, the main quarter, but you know, the access core.

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Yeah, this is, I want some of, I want some of what she's having.

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I want some of that.

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Yeah.

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Uh, yeah, yeah.

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Um, what was I going to say?

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Oh, so you help people with all this stuff.

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And it seems like a lot of your sessions with people is like pretty much helping them bridge that gap, just like you did.

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Correct.

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I work on a lot of very practical problems too, right?

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A lot of people, particularly around the holidays, I have to get on a plane.

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I gotta fly somewhere to go see granny, but they're afraid to get on the plane.

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Easy.

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I mean, that's honestly just like a quick fix.

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Please don't suffer with that.

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Just go to, it doesn't have to be me, go to somebody for that.

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That's so, so, such an easy fix.

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Um, but ordinary problems.

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Uh, another thing that happens a lot, and because I was in sales, I understand this problem really well, is that sales people, a lot of times, Can't seem to get past a certain number.

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Like if there's a, if there's a quota, you're supposed to make 60, 000 a month in sales.

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Um, they can't seem to get past 58 and they, and they'll do stuff.

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They'll get close and then they'll sabotage it.

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So they never hit the number that is actually kind of a psychological block.

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And it also is something fairly easy to fix.

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So I would, even the most new.

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Call me if you want to, but even the most new hypnotherapists can kind of work through the idea of just expanding that, that limiting belief, because that is, that is a whole series of limiting beliefs around money that are usually passed down from generation to generation and they, they need to go, so they're interfering with whatever it is you're trying to create.

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mm.

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And not only that, you're passing through your kids.

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Let's, let's put a stop to that stuff.

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Yes.

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Yes, I do believe that.

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And it's, there's like this undercurrent of energy that subconsciously you repeat a lot of your parents' mistakes.

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Hello.

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Yeah.

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I've, I've recently learned that, um, through an interview and then also just.

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Self reflection, right?

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Meditation.

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You learn a lot.

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Um, I do want to get into strategies.

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But before we get into strategies on helping the listeners, you know, get get their mindset into more prosperity and financial freedom.

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I want to talk about your funny story.

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So.

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So you were like asking me about the time where I decided I was either a bit racist or a bit of an idiot, which is, I'm like, this is going to be gold.

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oh yeah.

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So I had a girlfriend who, uh, wanted me to see her husband.

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I think it was fear of flying.

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It was something ordinary like that.

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And, um, and I just, my, my good friend is as lily Norwegian, but white all over as I am.

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So I assumed that her partner would be too.

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So I walk into the lobby and there's three people there and I'm looking around and it's gotta be the white dude.

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And I, John, I can't remember the guy's name, John, and he, you know, a very, very tall African American man stands up and says, I'm Jon and I look at him.

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He says.

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Um, am I not what you expected?

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And I'm like,

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You had the face.

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I, I, I, I, I'm like trying not to be too much of an idiot.

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And I said, I, you know, I just, I thought you'd be taller.

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I mean, I don't wanna

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That's the best that came out.

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Good

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was, it was like, I mean, I could've said so many other really, really bad things.

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I thought you'd be white, but he, I, I just, no, I I thought you'd be taller.

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And anyway, we had this amazing session, but I kind of at the end of the session wondered, am I.

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A racist or just an idiot?

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I'm like, maybe, maybe sometimes a little bit of both.

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I don't know, I don't think I'm racist, but I, I do believe in life that at some point all of us are idiots.

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And, and that particular day I proved it, I proved it, you know.

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But yeah, it was funny.

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I can only imagine when you go into sessions, you have, you have no idea what you're running into.

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You see an alien and you're like, all right, let's work with it.

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Right?

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Like, at this point, it's not weird anymore.

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Not, not really.

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I mean, honestly, from some people say to me.

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I'm going to tell you a story that's going to seem a little weird.

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I'm like, trust me, it's fine.

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Every once in a while they do.

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And I go, well, yeah, that one really is kind of weird.

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But no, normally, not much falls into the weird category in my office anymore.

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What would be considered weird for you?

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Like, is there a recent weird without giving anybody's, you know, personal stuff up,

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Um, I don't know if this falls under weird or ungrounded, but I have a decent chunk of people call or send me emails saying, I went to a psychic and they told me that I am the reincarnation of Freya.

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Or God.

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Or Lakshmi, uh, I just need you to confirm that for me.

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And I'm like, no, no, I, you know, and I, I don't know what to say.

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Like, I don't think you're particularly grounded is not an answer that you can give to someone you don't because maybe I'm wrong.

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Right.

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I will say something like, I'm not qualified to certify you as.

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But, but that, that one does qualify for me.

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And those of you who've seen cult shows, you've seen plenty of examples of people who genuinely firmly believed that they were an incarnation of, of goddess and, you know, got followers to follow them.

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I, I am not of the camp that, that, that if that person really did come to earth.

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That she would be asking for your credit card, you know, first thing, right?

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So that's just that's just my fly and I'm happy to be wrong But that's just my thinking that that Jesus is not gonna come down and say hey, I accept PayPal.

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Right.

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Um, going into that, actually, I just want to follow up on that before we move on.

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Um, what do you, what do you think is actually going on when multiple people claim to be so infamous in a past life?

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I Have seen this a lot actually a lot of times When people come in for past life regression therapy, it's in response to some documentary that was on TV.

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I cannot tell you, Josh Gates did something on Genghis Khan, and I had like three dudes come in the next week who thought they were Genghis Khan.

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Um, I do think that a lot of these very famous people have large entourages.

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And I do think it's decent to, to, to assume, fair to assume that, you know, thousands of people interacted with this person.

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Maybe the person thought that they were them because they could see things that were legitimately part of that person's household.

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They've had visions of that.

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I also think a lot of it is, and I, I fall victim to this too.

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I feel really small, some people feel, feel really small or not significant or not powerful in the world and they want to believe that at some point in their history, they were powerful and important.

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I must have been Genghis Khan, you know, I mean, I must have been Queen Elizabeth.

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It's kind of the joke in the hypnotherapy community.

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They're either Queen Elizabeth or Cleopatra.

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Yeah, I've heard that one a lot.

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Yeah.

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I cannot tell you how many times I've gotten emails about that.

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Uh, I, so far, neither of those people have shown up at my office.

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I'm just going to say, but, uh, yeah, I think it is, is our human instinct to want to be more powerful than we really are and having visions of times when we were and attributing that to somebody who who's branded somebody whose name we can mention a lot, you know, a lot of nobility in the past.

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Are not household names, you know, if you were part of the Norwegian normal royal family in a past life, that name is not going to be in your mind.

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If you're an American citizen, right?

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You might know the British royal family, probably not going to know Norwegian or Swedish or any of these other communities or, uh, or Prussian, right?

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But I, that's my theory.

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I'm happy to be wrong, but that's my theory.

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I think people just want to feel more powerful than they really are in this lifetime.

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And I would encourage you if you're feeling that way.

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Find ways to feel more powerful, you know, start your own YouTube channel, start a business.

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I mean, my goodness, let yourself be the center of attention in a healthy way.

00:27:14.228 --> 00:27:15.548
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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And I think that's a good segue into getting into that.

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I want to get into some strategies.

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I know you've helped a lot of people.

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You had a lot of really good conversations with people.

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How can somebody with some really good tips on someone?

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Um, being able to, uh, just move their mind towards that prosperity, that financial freedom, because we're in a, um, like you said earlier, uh, an economy currently, as of like, December 2023, there's a lot of uncertainty, and especially for people that are looking to move out of their career, they might be hesitant to jump ship or start doing something extra just because We took Uh, if it looks like everything's going to fail, you know, like, what, what are some tips that someone can do mentally to kind of move into that, like prosperity, financial freedom mindset?

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First of all, now is the time to start a business because if you can figure out how to make coin when there's not as much coin around, that business is going to be 10 times more prosperous when things improve.

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So start it now.

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I really mean it.

00:28:17.637 --> 00:28:21.887
I mean it, you know, if you, because learning how to do things on the cheap is a skill.

00:28:22.397 --> 00:28:25.877
Um, I would say also pay attention to numbers.

00:28:25.887 --> 00:28:28.008
A lot of people, my mind loves numbers.

00:28:28.008 --> 00:28:30.758
Like I used that example earlier of, of the sales.

00:28:31.057 --> 00:28:32.688
Number, but that's a real example.

00:28:32.718 --> 00:28:33.758
People have it in their head.

00:28:33.758 --> 00:28:39.627
They can't make more than 110, 000 in there and they'll find ways to sabotage their life to keep them under that.

00:28:40.167 --> 00:28:43.508
Start by watching where that is showing up in your life.

00:28:43.948 --> 00:28:47.798
Uh, you can also use hypnotherapy to, to clear that number, but really.

00:28:48.252 --> 00:28:50.873
Being present to it is a very helpful thing.

00:28:51.313 --> 00:28:55.873
Also noticing where family of origin beliefs may be interfering.

00:28:55.873 --> 00:28:58.462
The whole concept of money, not growing on trees, right?

00:28:58.893 --> 00:29:02.913
You may have a money doesn't grow on trees unless you're, you've got a pear tree and you're selling those pears.

00:29:02.923 --> 00:29:04.472
Then money does grow on trees.

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I would say surround yourself with people who make more money than you.

00:29:08.113 --> 00:29:16.153
I'm not saying ditch your friends, but maybe your guy friends who are smoking pot every Thursday and Friday and Saturday and Sunday night.

00:29:16.438 --> 00:29:22.268
Instead of reading Wall Street Journal might not be the ones who are going to give you the best financial advice.

00:29:22.698 --> 00:29:24.057
Read great books on the topic.

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I would highly recommend you educate yourself about how money works.

00:29:27.817 --> 00:29:31.587
Money is a really easy game to lose if you don't know how you're playing it.

00:29:31.907 --> 00:29:36.268
I would start with, and I know the book is dated, but if you haven't already read it, you should.

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Is Rich Dad Poor Dad?

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Just to see the difference in the mindset.

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I'm not saying do what he did, I'm not saying doing that, but I'm saying the understanding of how your mindset needs to shift.

00:29:47.303 --> 00:29:49.053
Is, is really present in that book.

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I would also say, don't be afraid of starting a business.

00:29:52.272 --> 00:29:53.482
It is not mysterious.

00:29:53.932 --> 00:29:55.982
It is not this thing that only rich people do.

00:29:56.022 --> 00:29:58.883
I can guarantee you my business, I started it with almost nothing.

00:29:59.143 --> 00:30:04.542
Like I bought, still have it, digital recorder as seen on ghost hunters, right?

00:30:04.883 --> 00:30:09.393
For 200 bucks, a business license and a fictitious business thing.

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And it was like, and we're talking about 50 plus the 200 bucks for the digital recorder, I, nothing, I started with nothing.

00:30:15.173 --> 00:30:17.542
And I turned it into something that now supports me.

00:30:17.893 --> 00:30:19.942
So start, just start.

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Just start.

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I mean, it's as simple as that.

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Is there one, what was the biggest challenge for you to get your business going?

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And

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The biggest challenge was understanding boundaries.

00:30:34.063 --> 00:30:36.942
I'm sure anybody who does anything woo woo will understand this one.

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You know, people feeling like they could text me at 3 o'clock in the morning, Oh my God, my husband hasn't come home.

00:30:41.803 --> 00:30:43.093
Is he cheating on me with my sister?

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I mean, like, no, that's not okay.

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But figuring out how do you create rules and boundaries to make sure that people don't think they can, Pester you all the time or cancel at the last minute with no consequences or, you know, never show up for appointments and not expect to pay for them.

00:31:00.597 --> 00:31:07.988
That I would say was the biggest challenge for me personally, because I kind of had grown up with this idea that if you can say yes to someone's request, then you should.

00:31:08.798 --> 00:31:10.708
That's not always the healthy way to do it.

00:31:10.877 --> 00:31:12.817
Uh, people need to understand boundaries.

00:31:12.817 --> 00:31:15.907
People need to think of you with a level of respect.

00:31:15.958 --> 00:31:17.458
Think of you as like a doctor.

00:31:17.518 --> 00:31:18.968
Uh, you would never do that to your doctor.

00:31:18.968 --> 00:31:20.278
Your doctor would charge you.

00:31:21.097 --> 00:31:23.178
Many times over for a missed appointment.

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Trust me.

00:31:23.938 --> 00:31:24.407
Try it.

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Try it.

00:31:24.917 --> 00:31:25.557
See what happens.

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I mean, don't try it.

00:31:26.347 --> 00:31:26.938
But you know what I mean.

00:31:27.657 --> 00:31:28.407
You guys already know.

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Because people have done it.

00:31:30.178 --> 00:31:30.917
You get charged.

00:31:31.448 --> 00:31:32.577
That was the biggest challenge.

00:31:33.738 --> 00:31:37.528
can see that being a challenge because especially if you're in the industry of serving people, right.

00:31:37.647 --> 00:31:39.518
One on one coaching counseling.

00:31:39.518 --> 00:31:39.788
And I

00:31:39.857 --> 00:31:40.748
Very personal.

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Yeah,

00:31:43.587 --> 00:31:47.417
uh, as a need, uh, a lot of, um, mental support, right?

00:31:48.137 --> 00:31:56.998
And, um, if you're going from a place of, um, some, a lot of things are done for you in your job, your career, and then out on your own.

00:31:57.248 --> 00:32:01.137
It's like you're going into the open pasture and you don't know where the fences are.

00:32:01.407 --> 00:32:04.857
And then there's other cows and horses jumping the fence.

00:32:05.667 --> 00:32:09.097
I don't think cows can jump a fence, but it's really cool to think about it.

00:32:09.508 --> 00:32:11.137
Um, but yeah,

00:32:11.178 --> 00:32:11.738
image in my mind.

00:32:11.958 --> 00:32:12.938
I like that image.

00:32:14.567 --> 00:32:15.518
that's a diesel cow.

00:32:15.817 --> 00:32:22.157
Um, and I'm, I'm really trying to stay on subject, but I'm thinking about, you know, when, when, uh, it's okay.

00:32:22.157 --> 00:32:27.008
Um, you know, you're trying to sleep and you're thinking about cows jumping the fence or sheep.

00:32:27.188 --> 00:32:29.807
It's actually not cows or sheep, but my mind goes.

00:32:30.133 --> 00:32:33.442
Goes, you know, insane and think of cows jumping the fence.

00:32:33.442 --> 00:32:37.393
Like, what does that cow have to look like to be able to do that?

00:32:37.393 --> 00:32:39.383
Because they can barely get up when they fall.

00:32:40.032 --> 00:32:40.522
Um,

00:32:41.228 --> 00:32:43.147
I'm gonna be thinking, I'm gonna be thinking about that all day.

00:32:43.147 --> 00:32:44.198
John, thank you for that.

00:32:45.913 --> 00:32:46.462
You're welcome.

00:32:46.712 --> 00:32:49.423
I'm going to go to, uh, I'm going to make an image and I'll send it to you.

00:32:49.472 --> 00:32:52.522
And it's going to be that maybe that'll be the graphic for the episode.

00:32:52.522 --> 00:32:53.093
That'd be funny.

00:32:53.182 --> 00:32:53.393
And

00:32:53.548 --> 00:32:54.448
that would be so

00:32:54.563 --> 00:32:56.083
do with the show.

00:32:56.847 --> 00:32:57.357
for people.

00:32:57.448 --> 00:32:58.377
What the heck is this?

00:32:58.377 --> 00:33:03.087
A parallel lives and I'm seeing a cow You mean am I a cow in another life?

00:33:03.268 --> 00:33:06.087
No, by the way, in, in case you're asking that question, you are not

00:33:06.742 --> 00:33:09.702
Has there ever been someone who was an animal in their past life?

00:33:09.702 --> 00:33:11.442
Okay.

00:33:11.563 --> 00:33:14.643
honestly, and I'm not sure that it doesn't exist.

00:33:14.883 --> 00:33:19.847
I'm going to say that it doesn't, but it That wouldn't necessarily be helpful for the person in front of me.

00:33:19.847 --> 00:33:34.307
So my spirit, their spirit guides are not going to say, Hey, show them a time when they were a rat because that's, that's going to be really interesting information, like, no, they're going to show them a time when they've got a problem that they're dealing with now and how they managed it then and how you can do it better this time, that's what will show up in the session.

00:33:35.262 --> 00:33:36.262
Which is very good.

00:33:36.553 --> 00:33:36.923
Very good.

00:33:36.962 --> 00:33:40.813
It's not going to be just a random animal just eating grass next

00:33:40.907 --> 00:33:41.317
helpful.

00:33:41.367 --> 00:33:42.897
No therapeutic value to that.

00:33:42.968 --> 00:33:43.208
Right.

00:33:43.208 --> 00:33:44.228
And your spirit knows that.

00:33:44.248 --> 00:33:45.147
Your spirit guides know that.

00:33:46.133 --> 00:33:46.843
That's hilarious.

00:33:46.863 --> 00:33:47.482
And it's cool.

00:33:47.482 --> 00:33:52.932
It's like, it's the, the system knows what to do and knows that there's an opportunity for someone to help that person.

00:33:53.242 --> 00:33:53.942
So then.

00:33:54.367 --> 00:33:56.127
Things bleed through that are necessary.

00:33:56.127 --> 00:33:56.678
And I love that.

00:33:56.678 --> 00:33:57.528
That's pretty cool.

00:33:57.607 --> 00:34:02.428
Um, so as we get to a close, I want to give you a chance to share what you're working on.

00:34:02.428 --> 00:34:04.248
I know you, you've written a couple of books.

00:34:04.538 --> 00:34:06.998
Um, you've, you're doing a lot of really cool stuff.

00:34:07.008 --> 00:34:11.108
What are you working on that you feel that people can, um, uh, take advantage of?

00:34:11.648 --> 00:34:12.577
So I have a book.

00:34:12.597 --> 00:34:13.498
You can go on Amazon.

00:34:13.538 --> 00:34:14.608
I'm just going to shameless plug.

00:34:14.608 --> 00:34:15.217
Here's the cover.

00:34:15.358 --> 00:34:15.737
Love it.

00:34:16.068 --> 00:34:17.057
Uh, Jill K.

00:34:17.057 --> 00:34:19.668
Thomas, because there is also another author named Jill Thomas.

00:34:20.228 --> 00:34:22.427
Uh, the high income healer.

00:34:23.057 --> 00:34:25.867
Is really all of the advice that I was giving my clients.

00:34:25.867 --> 00:34:27.137
So the people are coming in all the time.

00:34:27.427 --> 00:34:29.327
How do you start a hypnotherapy business?

00:34:29.327 --> 00:34:30.737
And I would tell them and I'm like, you know what?

00:34:30.737 --> 00:34:32.547
One of these days you just write all this stuff down.

00:34:32.887 --> 00:34:34.367
And then they could just buy it for like 4.

00:34:34.367 --> 00:34:36.407
99 on Kindle.

00:34:36.577 --> 00:34:38.148
And then I wouldn't have to have the conversation.

00:34:38.148 --> 00:34:40.027
I could just say, let's do, here, read the book.

00:34:40.057 --> 00:34:42.788
And then I will just tell you the things that are, that are not in the book.

00:34:43.128 --> 00:34:44.998
So I have three books.

00:34:45.318 --> 00:34:46.737
Um, it's a lot of work to buy a book.

00:34:46.737 --> 00:34:48.608
If you're thinking of writing a book, just understand that.

00:34:50.233 --> 00:34:50.983
It's a lot of work.

00:34:51.172 --> 00:34:52.253
It's even more work to sell it.

00:34:54.083 --> 00:34:58.373
Uh, but I also, I've got a YouTube channel called new business for business owners.

00:34:58.882 --> 00:35:01.163
And I'm always like working on projects right now.

00:35:01.163 --> 00:35:05.862
I'm also working on a book, um, emotional eating and emotional spending are kind of the same problem.

00:35:06.182 --> 00:35:14.572
So I'm, I'm working on a book with exercises on how to heal both of those problems, because a lot of times when people are trying to lose weight, they get in debt because they're, they're.

00:35:14.777 --> 00:35:16.657
They're only, they're not really dealing with a problem.

00:35:16.657 --> 00:35:17.677
They're just dealing with a symptom.

00:35:17.717 --> 00:35:21.007
And then they, you know, they, another symptom shows up in a bigger way.

00:35:21.007 --> 00:35:33.688
So I'm working on that, but yeah, for now that one's not going to be like a year, just be honest, probably a year, but for now you can go and get the high income healer, how to turn your healing gift into a fulfilling full time business right now on

00:35:33.958 --> 00:35:34.387
Perfect.

00:35:34.458 --> 00:35:35.697
It's a perfect title too.

00:35:35.728 --> 00:35:35.818
It's

00:35:35.853 --> 00:35:36.393
I know.

00:35:36.588 --> 00:35:38.608
you're like, okay, yeah, this is, this is what I want.

00:35:38.688 --> 00:35:40.987
And, and you can, uh, yeah, that's, that's cool.

00:35:40.987 --> 00:35:44.237
And yeah, I do know people that, um, help people, um, yeah.

00:35:45.148 --> 00:36:01.967
Published books and I know a friend that just announced that he finished the book and, uh, that's challenging and time consuming and that shows that there's a lot of diligency, a lot of consistent consistency in your background so that that does say a lot.

00:36:01.967 --> 00:36:03.197
So, um,

00:36:03.233 --> 00:36:05.143
friend gonna try and sell it to publishers?

00:36:05.797 --> 00:36:06.637
I have no idea.

00:36:06.652 --> 00:36:14.163
Okay, so if he does, if he does, you just go get a fifth of vodka, keep it in the covenant, because he's going to be depressed from all the rejection letters he gets.

00:36:14.353 --> 00:36:16.202
No, I'm just saying, I'm just, everybody gets a ton of them.

00:36:16.242 --> 00:36:17.282
Just, I'm just saying, I'm not

00:36:17.338 --> 00:36:18.858
Just the 5th just the 5th of

00:36:19.202 --> 00:36:20.862
I don't know, get a couple of gallons.

00:36:20.862 --> 00:36:23.253
But he's gonna come over, you know, crying.

00:36:23.503 --> 00:36:28.273
Just, just let him know that Jill said that's, that's part of the process and it's okay.

00:36:28.643 --> 00:36:30.253
Somebody, doesn't mean people don't love you.

00:36:30.898 --> 00:36:31.858
That's funny.

00:36:31.927 --> 00:36:32.478
I will.

00:36:32.507 --> 00:36:33.038
Thank you.

00:36:34.197 --> 00:36:37.568
If he decides to go that route, he probably will self publish, which I think is wise.

00:36:38.557 --> 00:36:39.077
that's cool.

00:36:39.097 --> 00:36:43.527
That's, I can totally see you doing a video on just like your journey on writing books.

00:36:43.922 --> 00:36:51.583
Yeah, I might get in trouble because one of my public, I did get one of my books picked up by a publisher and, and it didn't go as well as I would have liked.

00:36:51.583 --> 00:36:53.103
And it's not because they did anything wrong.

00:36:53.112 --> 00:36:54.722
They kind of did, but let's not go there.

00:36:54.963 --> 00:36:59.782
It's more that I'm a bit of a control freak and I turned over control of something I care about.

00:37:00.132 --> 00:37:00.722
To someone else.

00:37:01.112 --> 00:37:05.253
And that, if you're a control freak, that's not the best thing to do.

00:37:05.677 --> 00:37:06.137
Got it.

00:37:07.458 --> 00:37:12.117
Well, I think we spoke about a lot of really cool stuff today and there's a lot to take from this.

00:37:12.697 --> 00:37:14.427
I really appreciate you coming on to the show.

00:37:14.427 --> 00:37:15.777
This was awesome.

00:37:16.117 --> 00:37:17.717
I definitely want to stay connected.

00:37:18.208 --> 00:37:19.068
Thanks for coming on.
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Jill Thomas

Hypnotherapist, Psychic Reader, Author

Jill K Thomas is a Certified Hypnotherapist, intuitive coach and clairvoyant. She is the author of 3 books including her most recent project “The high Income Healer; how to turn your healing gift into a fulfilling full-time business”.