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when I'm in that, when I'm at the beach in the cold, I turned to the beast.
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Like it's, it's, it's hard to tap into it until it, it wakes up in you.
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You don't always get to choose when it, when you wake it up.
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So like, I mean, if you come to that beach, I promise you, I will not disappoint.
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Welcome to the New Age Human Podcast, where we empower conscious creators, entrepreneurs, and empaths by diving into subjects like alternative health, mindfulness, and innovative technology.
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I'm your host, Jon Astacio and in today's episode we're talking with Brandon Cooke, the founder of Sunday Swim, which is a holistic health company on a mission to change the world through exposure to the cold, specifically cold water.
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Now, if you're looking for ways to improve your mental health, physical health, and find out how he turned a passion into a growing movement, including gaining the attention of New York Times and Fox News, this is an episode you don't want to miss.
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Now with that said, thank you for joining us today.
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Let's get started.
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So, yeah, I want to, well, first thank you for coming onto the show.
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We, reconnected again.
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And I know that, we finally did a cold plunge into the lake when we reconnected at an event recently and that was an awesome experience, but thank you for coming on the show, Brandon I appreciate you, I want to know, uh, what, why cold plunge?
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A lot of people talk about cold showers.
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A lot of people hate cold showers.
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You started Sunday swim.
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Where did that come from?
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Why?
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So, when I was in college, I was dealing with, I would say even in high school started, I was dealing with some mental health issues.
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I didn't know how to manage stress.
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I would party a lot.
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You know, I would take my anger out on things and I didn't like the person I was becoming or the trajectory that I was going.
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And I had like a three day span where like everything kind of just.
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Fell out of control.
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I was, you know, my longterm relationship at the time ended, my grandmother passed like the next day.
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And it brought a lot of shame on me because I, I didn't go to her 90th birthday party because I spent it studying for work and and, and that test that I ended up studying for was like this big exam that I, cause I wanted to work on wall street.
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I w I was, I was really good in finance.
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And I failed to, and it was just like, yeah, it was crushing and like.
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I didn't see any hope like the future was unclear like I couldn't see past the day like it was really like a terrible time and
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day, it just happened to come along.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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you know, I was in a bad place for a little while, but then, you know, you got two options.
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You sink or you swim.
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I say it all the time.
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And I've always prided myself on being a guy when he falls down, he picks himself back up.
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So.
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I reassessed the situation where I was in my life, why I got to this point.
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And I sat down with it for a little bit.
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I wanted to understand why I lost, not just jump back real quick.
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And part of my healing process and, I was studying a lot and, but it was new things.
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It wasn't finance anymore.
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It wasn't the typical, what college wanted me to study where.
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I thought that they wanted me to go get a regular job and be unhappy.
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Just chasing the dollar.
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I, uh, I came across Wim Hof, the Dutch extreme athlete, the ice man.
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He he's, you know, he's my, he's my inspiration, my love.
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And I, I just was scrolling on the internet one day.
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It just happened to come across him and he was shirtless.
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And in some snowstorm and he had this great beard and this passion in his eyes and you could see how much he was filled with joy and love and how inspired he was and I said if I could just get a little taste of this.
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You know, I could be good.
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And, uh, his, his message on changing the world, making a happier, healthier lifestyle, I absolutely fell in love with it.
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And I started studying his method.
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I was reading his book.
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I was doing the breathing work.
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I was practicing the cold therapy.
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And, uh, it was really difficult when I first started
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He was
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like,
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you didnt just dive right in?
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No, I mean, like the first time I went in, I was, I probably lasted like 30 seconds and I was just yelling the whole time, stay hard, stay hard, stay hard.
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Cause I thought I was David Goggins, you know, like I was actually with like four people.
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Yeah, it wasn't really, so I was understanding what I was still doing at that time.
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I was just doing it, but I wasn't mentally prepared or accepting of the challenge.
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I was still fighting it.
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And then as I continued to study the process, I was starting to feel better.
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Like, you know, I was, I was starting to feel more confident.
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I was getting my swagger back and, uh, me and my brother went together in October of 2021 and when we went in that water, man, like I understood what Wim was talking about, like the bond that was created between me and my brother in that moment was like.
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We were inseparable and, uh, I understood him and all of his pain and all his struggling and We got out of that water and we chased each other around like we were kids like it was crazy I was jumping attacking him playing around like like animals, you know I was like an animal boy like they bite each other a little bit and it was so fun we had such a good time and I realized like damn this cold water is no joke like and I made it my mission to show the people, because you know, at the end of Wim's book, he puts up a call to action, saying that we can change the world, and I heard him, loud and clear.
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I understood what he wanted to say, and I, I knew that God had a purpose for me, and uh, that made me excited, to understand, like, cause, When I was going through that tough time, I, like, I was like, what am I doing here?
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What, what, I have no purpose.
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I'm just messing around, having fun, doing whatever I want.
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Like, that's not living life.
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And once I felt that purpose, up every day excited again, because I understood that if I could just help one person, then this is all been worth it.
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And uh, For 20 weeks straight that year, 2022, we went into the ocean every single week and week by week, you know, we'd get some new faces, we'd have some returning ones, you'd even have a week or two where there was like only two people, but I knew that if I stuck to the plan that people would see it.
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Because the cold water is a, you know, it's a positive energy.
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You leave feeling better.
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I know that this product doesn't miss.
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Yes.
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It's hard.
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So sometimes it's scary to come back.
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And, but I knew that I had something here, whether it was one person, two people, 20 people, and this year we made it a real company and week one.
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We had like 150 people show up and it was like one of the coolest days of my life.
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It was so awesome.
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And I was able to like lead us out into the water and just watching everyone run out of that water with smiles on their face.
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That meant the world to me.
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It was like a whole two years of hard work and, and people called me crazy.
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Like people really thought like we lost on my mind and they were judging me.
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And yeah, cause you know, people didn't understand the cold when people don't understand stuff.
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They don't, uh, They like to label it as something because they're not okay with just saying it just is like when people go in that cold water, they say it's so cold, so cold and something that really helped me is.
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Just is.
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You don't have to label everything.
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It can just be something.
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And, man, this year was like a wild ride.
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We, next thing you know, it took off.
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And we were in New York Times, we were in Fox News twice, we had a follow up.
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Interview with Wim Hof, she was like, everything came full circle and it
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that's insane.
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What was it like to have that interview with Wim Hof?
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Can you, like, go into that?
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Because I know that you said you had, you published an article with him, but I didn't know you interviewed him,
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So no, I wasn't there.
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So I wasn't there.
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So like, yes, upsetting a little bit.
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I was a
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It's a step further.
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it was like, yes, we're still, listen, we'll, we'll make sure, I'll make sure it happens one day.
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Okay.
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So like, I had mixed emotions on this too, because it was, it was so big and to not be able to be there was upsetting to me.
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But Angelica Stabile, the one who wrote the article.
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I met her this year and she's a gem.
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She is such a good person.
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She has such a warm heart.
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She came to the swims cause she figured that if she was going to be the one representing like Sunday swim and doing the interview, she should understand it too.
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Right?
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So she even the week before plunged with us to ask us questions.
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We went over the book and the topics.
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So it went away.
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I felt like I was there through her.
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So it was beautiful.
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And at some point, you know, you got to drop the ego.
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Who am I?
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Like, what does it matter if I meet him?
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Like, to be honest, where I'm still spreading
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so to be clear, she came to you guys and she's like somebody that works within his company.
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Is that what's going on?
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so, so we had our first interview.
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She's actually from my hometown, but works for Fox news.
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And she came to the swim, she heard about it.
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So she wrote a whole article that was like, just us.
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It was a great piece.
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It was like cold therapy can change your life, something like that.
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And then she reached out to Wim Hof's team and was able to secure an interview.
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So the way that they did it was like a followup of that first one on cold therapy.
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Which now, okay, we've talked about cold therapy.
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Well, where did this start?
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Who's the Iceman?
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And then it went into like the Iceman, Wim Hof, and then the article kind of went like, and this is how it's inspiring other people to push the message.
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So it was kind of like that.
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But, she did have a point where she was able to send, like, a message from me, like, saying, so there's a clip saying that Brenda Cook wants to thank you for, like, saving and changing his life.
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And he's like, wow, that's so beautiful, love and power.
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So, like, now I love to always say love and power, because it's just, like, something so beautiful.
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And, uh, you know, maybe I didn't get to speak to him, but I, I do think I
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You, you got...
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And, uh,
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Your name.
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Someone came out to you.
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That's, That's, like the beginning.
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Like, think about it.
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Before, you would have been like, I'm your fan.
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I'm gonna shoot you an email.
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I started a company.
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After just your, your practice.
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And even then, he might have, right?
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But, you actually have someone that came to you that was local.
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Got inspired to to add you to a story.
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And then mentioned you by name to him.
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And if you have access, do you have access to that video?
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I do.
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Yeah, I could send it to you.
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I could
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yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be cool.
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But I was asking, that if you wanted to reach out and to connect or, uh, communicate with him, right?
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That's a tool you could use under your belt.
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Like, hey, you know what?
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We're doing some big things and it's all because of you and that, that person, that's me and I would love to connect with you.
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I can only, like, that would be a crazy story, even, right?
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That's actually a great idea.
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Yeah.
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And I might have to do that right after we hang up this call.
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I think I'll get,
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I'm getting
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I'll do that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Me too, man.
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You know, the only part that upsets me is that Wim Hof, when I came across him, the people who are running his page were like epic.
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They made him look like a beast and I think they have a new like marketing team cause he doesn't actually run his Instagram page.
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kind of dropped the ball a little bit.
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Like you have this guy who is 26 Guinness world records.
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And they don't even like post about it, and they post about it, you know, just regular people, like just regular people like me, like, yes, it's cool to see us, but I already get so much that I want to see him, I want to hear his voice, I want to hear his, yeah, on his, on his social media.
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So, I think they could do a lot more than they currently do
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Do you mean to say that his social media doesn't show him and you wanna see more of him and that was kind of a letdown for you?
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Yeah, no, it is because yeah, they, I just think that they've been, they could do a better job.
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I mean, I think I could do a better job like with his, just to be honest, I have a good social media team.
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I think we can do a better job showing how epic and powerful and, uh, you know, what I love about him too is I think there's a big issue right now between, uh, you know, like the divine femininity and masculinity and we're, uh, people are like afraid to show that
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to be masculine.
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Yeah, it's like a bad thing to be masculine.
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I don't think it is.
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It doesn't mean that we're not in touch with like, you know, our feminine side as well, but they put you down.
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I almost for being masculine at this point.
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Like it's a negative thing.
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And I, I think society works better when we're both in our roles for the most part.
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But Wim Hof, you know, he's like masculine side.
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I don't think they show as much that power and the vigor in his body and like the roar.
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I love that about him on top of, you know, how sweet he is and gentle.
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Cool.
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Like, I love that power behind him, like a
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And I can totally see you putting that into your communication with him saying, like, I want to see more of you and I would like to bring that out in a conversation with you.
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You know, like, who knows?
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Keep me posted on that, man.
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That's gonna be cool.
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So I want to rewind back.
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I think you're doing really big things.
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I mean,
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You.
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if you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
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Just turned
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Uh, just turned 24.
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And you're doing a lot of this stuff.
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And the funny thing is for anybody listening or watching, when we were getting this set up, Brandon's like, I'm not that tech savvy.
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So and we were just talking about how like, that's.
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Part of your personal persona is you're, you're all in for nature.
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You're all in for the real world.
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And when someone says, I'm not tech savvy, like I have an extra space for that person because I'm like, they get it right.
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They get it.
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That it's the, you know, we, we want to watch 4k 8k, but just go outside.
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That's like
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yeah,
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But I want to rewind back to Sunday swim and how.
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That grew.
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Can you elaborate on how you grew that?
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All right.
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So October that October, 2021, that was the first time I went with my brother.
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I do I, the next day I came up with the name Sunday swim.
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I said, hell yeah, this rocks.
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Like we swim on a Sunday.
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Sometimes you got to keep it simple.
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You know, it doesn't like, I want people to on a good name.
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People can remember it, recognize it.
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And they feel like connected to it, right?
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They understand what it is.
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Sunday swim, simple, boom, you swim on a Sunday.
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That's easy.
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So once I came up with that, it was like, it's like, all right, you know what?
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Let's, let's make this something like, it was just an idea in my head.