EP 117 How an Ex-Healthcare Attorney Embraced Regenerative Health

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So allopathic medicine, yes, score, like we are both alive because of it.

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And then we get into the point where she's having all of this like goop and drainage and nasty, whatever.

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And the doctor's like, she's fine.

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She's fine.

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Like, I don't think she's fine.

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the pediatrician told me at one point when it took them four hours to call me back that they were trying to have a life.

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And he was like, and you're the pediatrician on call.

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So don't be on call if you don't want to want to do that.

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Now, with that said, let's get to the show.

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All right, we have Sarah Cotterill in the building, virtually.

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How's it going?

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It's great, how are you?

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I'm doing good.

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Um, for anybody that's watching, just show the mug real quick.

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We just need to, like, what does the mug say?

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The mug says, let that shit go.

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There we go.

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So if

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you're stressed right now, you're just tuning in just let that shit go.

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We're going to be talking about obviously human potential and how we can Better develop ourselves and today we have sarah on because Actually, she has had the a front row seat to the healthcare world being an attorney for The industry let's let's pick her brain Because if if if she's on the uh on the show, that means that she saw stuff She didn't like and um is doing something different about it and is wanting to make a change.

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Is that correct?

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Uh, ma'am

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Yes, that would be a hundred percent true.

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So with a front row seat, like, what did you see?

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What was it like being an attorney in the healthcare world?

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So I'll back up for you a little bit because I, um, I went to college thinking I was gonna be a physician.

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Yes, this is where I'm going.

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This is what I'm drawn to and then organic chemistry hit and I was like, okay, maybe not.

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Um, and did the kind of, Ooh, maybe I'll go into business.

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I don't think so.

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I'll be a history major.

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So I was a history major.

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And went to law school, um, and coming out of law school, decided I wanted to work in the health care system in a different way.

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So I got into health care, corporate and regulatory work.

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So it means I helped physicians and hospital systems and everybody across the medical field.

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spectrum with the business side of things.

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So I really wasn't in a courtroom, but I had a lot of exposure to, um, doctors, their employment agreements, their business arrangements, how hospitals worked with insurance companies, how physicians worked with insurance companies and that whole realm.

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So anything that really had to happen from the business perspective, I ended up getting involved in.

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You know what?

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Something popped up on my, uh, social media feed as I was death scrolling.

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And, uh, there's, uh, I think it was a physician.

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And he was like, you know how they have the, the, they talk to themselves, but they're pretending they're different people and what his alter ego said, is it true that doctors or physicians work for the insurance companies?

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Like, are you technically working for the insurance company?

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And he's trying to defend himself, but at the end of the day, it's like they chose the, they, the insurance company chooses how much to, to spend.

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To charge you and how much to pay you and can you shed some light on like that relationship on how maybe your average person thinks how things are done when you go to the doctor versus what the reality is and how maybe that's not in our best interest.

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Yeah, it's really interesting.

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It's one of those follow the money.

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type of conversation.

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So the incentives are set up by the insurance companies.

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And you can argue that the insurance companies have the motivation to keep us well, and they should on one hand, except that the system in many ways isn't set up that way.

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So it rewards physicians and hospitals for the number of times they see you.

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for the number of drugs, for how long you're in the hospital, all of those types of things.

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And it is trying to change on some front.

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It's really interesting you bring that up because, um, before I got out of healthcare, I was at a large Midwest physician group that was mostly primary care physicians, but also some specialists.

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And we looked around and we said, okay, it is not sustainable to Do what we're doing going forward, just as this physician group and seeing patients.

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So what's our next step?

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And we asked ourselves who our client was.

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So is our, is our client as the company, the physician, is it the patient or is it the insurance company?

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And we went round and round and round and had lots of interesting conversations on it.

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And for us, we decided that our client was the physician, because if the physician had what they needed, if they were supported in the way that they really felt was best to practice medicine, then guess what?

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Patients got the best care and insurance companies got what they needed to Wanted in the long haul and so that then led us to say, okay, well, we need a partner and we went out into the world looking for who that right partner was to talk to venture capital, talk to hospitals and ended up partnering with Optum.

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which is a subsidiary of United Health Group, which is a Fortune 6 insurance company.

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So I've, I've seen it from lots of different angles, for sure.

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Um, now one of the things that's starting to happen in medicine is something that's happening in Medicare Advantage.

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which is where insurance companies are really trying to incentivize physicians, patients, whatever, to be healthier, stay out of the hospital, do some of these more preventative care type of things.

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And that is such a small segment of our healthcare world.

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And you have to elect into that program.

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Um, that it's really not working.

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So a lot of what happens in day to day medicine, and I think most people that have been to the doctor lately can attest to this, right?

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You maybe go because it's your like, annual physical, right?

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Like I have to go once a year.

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So I set this time up, God forbid, I have to like change it because then I can't get in for another three months.

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And I get in and I go, okay, You run all these tests, and the doctor talks to me for about 15 minutes.

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Yep, yep, yep, check, check, check, looks good, move on.

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And I'm still left going like, what?

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They're all of these things, and I don't feel quite satisfied, and I'm not really feeling good, but you're telling me things are fine, or, or take this other thing.

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And they're like, oh yeah, come back in another three months.

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For another 15 minute visit.

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Like a car checkup, like getting your missions done.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Just wait and they're like, no, you're good.

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We checked it out.

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Can we talk a little bit longer?

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Like there's other stuff.

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Right.

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I'm not feeling good.

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And this is the interesting part of medicine because on the the flip side, we have AI coming in, right?

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And as of 2020, medical knowledge doubled every 73 days.

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73 days! You cannot know it all as a physician.

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There's just, there's no possible way.

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So now we're like, oh, AI's here.

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Okay, great.

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We'll send patients home with every monitoring device you can imagine, right?

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Your temperature, your breathing, your weight, your EKG, and the list goes on and on and on.

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And then what's starting to happen is, Um, and the physician's going, yep, and AI is oftentimes more accurate, actually, because it has the information.

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It doesn't have these personal biases that we have.

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And yet, I think we're really missing the human connection.

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Yeah.

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In medicine.

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Um, And I think it's going to cause us problems in the future.

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Uh, I like how you brought up AI because that's a hot subject for the past few years, and it's just getting more and more like in your face, right?

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I mean, just, I mean, at the time of recording, it's, you know, Like, November of 2024, and two of the most biggest cell phone companies, Apple and Samsung, just this year launched their phones fully integrated with AI.

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So now everybody, default, is going to be engulfed and actively, day to day, being, you know, being exposed to AI.

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And then now, uh, I do feel like, like you said, having a I introduced to the medical field as a big part of it.

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Yes.

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Um, no one physician is going to know all the answers.

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And then you have all these diagnostic tools.

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You have your watch.

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Now you have the ring.

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You have the headsets.

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I mean, we're talking about monitoring your brain waves and I tell everybody like it's a two way road.

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I mean, if it can read your mind, it can also start throwing stuff in there, right?

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Um, because if you understand anything about frequency and waves for something to, um, For it to work one way, it has to be able to work the other way as well.

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Like, that's just the nature of frequency, right?

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Uh, what are your thoughts on, like, the tracking of everything, right?

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Versus somebody, or maybe even better, because healthcare, right?

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I think you said it really well when we were, like, off camera.

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Um, you said it's, it's, uh, What was that phrase?

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It's, it's health care.

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Health care is not health care.

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It's, it's something else.

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I always say health is neither health nor care.

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It's a disease management system and a poor one at best.

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So the AI,

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AI is going to essentially be empowered to manage your disease.

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Yeah.

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And I think it's like anything, right?

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Like, Your biggest strength is your greatest weakness.

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And I, AI can spot patterns like nobody's business, right?

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And it will definitely see things that we haven't seen that we don't know.

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And yet there's this disconnection that starts to happen.

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And if you think about it, like machines are getting really good at being machines, we need to get really good at being human.

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And so what happens in the medical field, Take AI, for example, we had this happen to us where we were really encouraged to put in a call center that AI was answering those questions.

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Right?

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So you get the patients, they call in and they get the basic, like, this is what can happen.

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Well, sometimes we had 1 patient that called in, you know, what they needed.

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They needed an air conditioning unit.

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AI, at this point, is not going to come up with they need an air conditioning unit.

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And when we had the actual nurse answering the call, they could put all of those different things together.

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They had the ability, the authority, whatever, to say like, Oh, okay, if we get this patient an air conditioning unit, then all of these issues will basically subside.

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Let's spend money on that instead of all of these other pieces and parts.

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Okay.

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Thanks.

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Yeah, right and I like how you said Humans need to be more human and I feel like that is going to be a pro to us using AI if you were to think of a pro a positive thing because The AI is going to make it very obvious It's going to make it very obvious how valuable being a human is.

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And we're going to know a little more about ourselves because we are understanding more about what we're not.

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And I think it's very interesting to like, just watch that happen and happen, happen.

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Cause I can speak right.

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And like, just like that, what I just did, right.

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Where I stuttered and I made a mistake.

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That is something on a deeper level necessary to experience.

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With other humans.

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If someone's perfect on stage with like there, there's no shading to their teeth and you know, nothing's crooked.

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And it's weird.

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It's very weird to see someone that's like perfect.

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They're just like, it's not human.

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And so there's like this weird flaw area that makes us more like.

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a notch above perfect, which perfection lies within imperfection.

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So I like the whole idea of like toying with like this, that realm of questioning things.

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So we're definitely getting going deep into that area, but bringing it back, uh, in your experience of being in that field and an attorney and, um, seeing how people are being treated as patients, I'm sure you saw things that made you question what you were doing, question the industry and Start to move out of it because you're not doing that anymore and you're doing something more on the other side.

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So could you enlighten us on what, what you saw that made you say, you know what, I'm done with this.

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And then we'll go into what you're doing now.

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Cause I'm, what you're doing now is awesome.

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And I want everybody to know about it, but I want to know, like, like people need to know, like what's going to cost someone like yourself in that position to make you make those changes.

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I think for me, it started to come down to.

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A breakdown of trust.

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I started to not feel like I could actually trust the physicians or trust the health care system to help me heal or create health.

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And that happened maybe slowly over time with some of my own personal issues.

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My daughter, um, And it was born with the cord wrapped around her neck three times.

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So allopathic medicine, yes, score, like we are both alive because of it.

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And then we get into the point where she's having all of this like goop and drainage and nasty, whatever.

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And the doctor's like, she's fine.

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She's fine.

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Like, I don't think she's fine.

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Um, the pediatrician told me at one point when it took them four hours to call me back that they were trying to have a life.

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And he was like, and you're the pediatrician on call.

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So don't be on call if you don't want to want to do that.

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Um, and I started to have to go outside of the traditional healthcare system to solve those issues for my daughter, which it ended up being candida and overgrowth of yeast in your system.

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So treatable, but traditional medicine wasn't going to get there.

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Um, you start to learn about the flu shot.

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Right?

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Oh, it helps men, I can't remember the exact age, it's like 47, have the flu for an average of two less hours.

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And yet we have to get the flu shot, right?

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And then, like we already talked about, I saw that these physicians didn't have the time, they didn't have the energy to actually get to these root cause issues for their patients.

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And on the flip, I'm hanging out with the doctors all the time, and You know, if you like want to get well and you're like, Ooh, I want to get, I want to get healthy.

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I'm going to go to the gym.

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I'm going to start building muscle.

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I'm going to start lifting weights.

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And you look around and you think, Ooh, I want a trainer, right?

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You don't go to the guy that's sitting, eating a giant bag of Doritos.

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Um, Who's got, you know, the fat rolls and the jiggles and all that, right?

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Like you go to the person that's got the muscles.

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They're doing it.

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They're motivated.

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They're going and that's what I started to think as I looked around at some of these physicians.

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They went into this profession.

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I would like to think to heal people and yet They weren't healed themselves.

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They weren't even on a journey of healing themselves.

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Right?

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Like I start to think about in my world, this, these hallmarks of vitality, and yet the majority of physicians were showing up with hallmarks of disease.

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It's funny to go to like, uh, your physician and outside.

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Yes.

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You see a couple of other physicians and nurses like smoking and like on their smoking break.

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And, um, I got a story for you.

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My wife and I, we were trying out, um, we, we went vegan for a while, but we were like in the beginning stages and she had something that was like carbo tunnel going on.

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She was.

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Having issues.

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And so I'm like, you know what?

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You know, I heard if you go vegan helps with inflammation.

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Let's just try it out and Within two weeks her her wrist was fine, but there were other things that were going on And not you know, you're not just like super human Your body has to process stuff and depending on the extreme change You're gonna you know get these purging symptoms of detox, but so we were we weren't feeling well one day You And so we went to our physician, and the guy was like, Have you had any changes to your lifestyle?

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And we're like, Yeah, we were, we went vegan.

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And then he looks at me and he goes, What are you, a bird?

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I'm like, did he really just say that?

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We've, we never, that, that, we never thought he would say that.

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Meanwhile, he's overweight, he's got like the patches under his eyes and like, he, he obviously just clocks in and just is more of a, uh, a container of data.

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And he's definitely not on a journey.

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He's on his, a different journey.

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Um, a more negative journey for his health.

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And so we were just like, all right, that's, that was it.

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That's, that's.

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We needed to hear that.

00:18:54.011 --> 00:18:54.981
Thank you very much, sir.

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We're not coming back.

00:18:56.622 --> 00:18:57.332
It was interesting.

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And in a lot of the physician meetings, I would start them out by saying, okay, when I'm talking, we're going to stand up for sure was annoying, right?

00:19:07.352 --> 00:19:11.771
Or we're going to do this deep breath or this movement because we've been sitting for two hours.

00:19:12.071 --> 00:19:20.731
Um, and nobody's meant to sit for two hours or I'm going to replace the like donuts and sugary junk with less sugary junk.

00:19:20.731 --> 00:19:26.747
So, you know, Yogurt and fruit, which is not perfect by any means, but still feeding people.

00:19:27.156 --> 00:19:34.576
Um, or I'm going to mix up who sits at what table when we're all together as a large physician group.

00:19:35.136 --> 00:19:39.237
And I mean, some of the reaction from those doctors, I will not sit with people I don't know.

00:19:40.247 --> 00:19:40.817
Wow.

00:19:40.916 --> 00:19:48.047
So it's fascinating and it reminds me like we're all people and we're all, like you said, on this journey.

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But what modern medicine has done is removed our belief in our innate abilities to heal.

00:19:57.981 --> 00:20:03.791
And it's disconnected us from our own discernment of saying, okay, this feels right to me.

00:20:03.981 --> 00:20:07.192
And this feels like the next right thing to do.

00:20:07.451 --> 00:20:09.291
And AI is a part of that too.

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When you think about it, like we are built to read the expressions of people.

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Um, The voice inflections, the forehead wrinkles, the, all those little things.

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And so, number one, when you add in Botox and stuff like that, it makes it much harder to tell.

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And then when you get a perfectly crafted, whether it's AI or whatever, all of a sudden our ability to use that discernment muscle and know the truth is perfect.

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Out the window.

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And so we're left going like, um, I don't know.

00:20:46.271 --> 00:20:47.082
I don't know what to do.

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I don't know who to trust.

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I don't know how to be.

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And oh, by the way, it must be that I need to go to my doctor so that they can tell me, do this, take this in these exact steps.

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And I'm just going to trust it.

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And that started to really bother me.

00:21:02.961 --> 00:21:05.422
That discernment piece is huge nowadays.

00:21:05.501 --> 00:21:09.551
Um, it's, it's like a huge.

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Need right now for obvious reasons.

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You have a lot of distractions.

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A lot of I call it peacocking.

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Everybody's showing them their best selves in every aspect of their life to try to sell you on some aspect of them.

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And.

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A lot of deception out there.

00:21:32.301 --> 00:21:39.001
So on that subject, you left that industry and can we go into what happened next?

00:21:39.301 --> 00:21:43.602
And I think you had a funny story on how you left, but like, what did that look like?

00:21:44.602 --> 00:21:52.231
I mean, I left, it was a little bit of a dark night of the soul, if you will.

00:21:52.321 --> 00:21:53.142
We've all had them.

00:21:53.531 --> 00:21:59.672
Um, you know, I, haven't had any near death experiences.

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I don't come from a lineage of gurus.

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I'm not ordained in any religion.

00:22:04.392 --> 00:22:10.541
Um, but I did have that bonafide dark night of the soul for a period in, in my life.

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And it was one of those kind of slowly coming.

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And then all of a sudden where it was like, Nope, this is not happening.

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And a couple of things broke down all at once in my world.

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And I feel like the universe gave me a swift kick in the rear and said, Mm.

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You will be doing something else.

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Um, and so I left and then I went, Oh boy, okay, what now?

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Cause I think we always, and at least I experienced this, like we define ourselves by what's on our resume, right?

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I went to college, I did this, I am a lawyer, I've worked at these places.

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And then when you're like, Oh, well, what am I now?

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Where's that worth?

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Where's that value?

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What do I do?

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Um, and so I didn't do anything for a little bit and everybody in my world was like, Oh, you're going to have to teach yoga because they've done yoga for a long, long time.

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Um, and I was like, I don't think I'm going to teach yoga.

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You need to get back into yoga.

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the legal world.

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You need to post your resume on all of these things.

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You need to, you need to, you should, you should, you should.

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And I went, I'm not going to do those things.

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And as scary as that was, and I had, um, one woman that had kind of recently come into my world as a career life coach.

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And she said to me, all you have to do is don't do anything that feels heavy.

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And I live my life by that to this day.

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Don't do anything that feels heavy.

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And it doesn't mean we don't work hard and it doesn't mean we don't like get up early and do the things, but there's a difference between working hard and it feeling like this.

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And so I talked to people, that was really what I did.

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I listened, I talked and anybody that was doing anything interesting, I was like, I want to know more.

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Tell me more.

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And it really led me into, I think where I was already going when I left healthcare, but this path of regenerative health and wellness.

00:24:20.346 --> 00:24:24.886
So what we put in and on our bodies, our innate ability to heal.

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Um, exist.

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They matter.

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They make a difference.

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And those are the things that allow us to show up with vitality.

00:24:34.821 --> 00:24:35.301
Got it.

00:24:35.541 --> 00:24:42.862
So you got into regenerative health and could you go a little bit more into, uh, what that looks like?

00:24:42.922 --> 00:24:49.082
And I know that you have a community that you have right now and a whole system.

00:24:49.721 --> 00:24:50.112
Um.

00:24:50.747 --> 00:25:02.166
I'm actually curious, is that part of that community, and is it attached to that, or is it something completely separate, and are you willing to go into that science, because I'm sure everybody listening is like, okay, so what's this regenerative health stuff?

00:25:02.866 --> 00:25:21.106
Yeah, so let's define regenerative very basically, and I like to use this analogy, so I live in Indiana, where Indiana University has this race called little 500, and all the fraternities, and sororities ride around on this cinder track, right?

00:25:21.297 --> 00:25:25.356
And if you fall as a rider on that cinder track, it's nasty.

00:25:26.176 --> 00:25:39.027
So if you think about it, if you're, you're riding that race and you're going and you fall and a month later, you look at that big scab on your arm and it's worse, that's degenerative.

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If a month later, it's exactly the same as the day that you did it, it's sustainable.

00:25:49.686 --> 00:25:56.547
If a month later, it's healing, it's scabbing over, it's starting to improve, that's regenerative.

00:25:57.737 --> 00:26:02.416
So regenerative is this like continual growth, continual evolution.

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And as I look at it, there are certain, um, definitions within that.

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So you have to get into.

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Like a regenerative living system, we each are, like our bodies are, that's nested inside our family, which is then nested inside our community, which is then nested inside and it gets larger and larger and larger to the earth, the universe, and you can go on.

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But each of us within our own regenerative living system have our essence, something that is so us.

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at its core.

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It's kind of that unique fingerprint of this is our unique essence.

00:26:43.096 --> 00:26:47.076
Um, and at the same time we're interconnected, right?

00:26:47.737 --> 00:26:51.307
Um, I can't be me without your reflection

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of me

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or the people in my world.

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And so the list kind of goes on and on and on.

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And in the biohacking world, there's a lot on this regenerative medicine.

00:27:02.807 --> 00:27:05.027
So stem cells and things like that, right?

00:27:05.027 --> 00:27:06.727
Like that's not really the way I.

00:27:07.362 --> 00:27:17.991
Use it when I'm talking about regenerative medicine, I'm back to, Oh, by the way, your body is equipped to do a whole bunch of healing if we really tap in.

00:27:18.442 --> 00:27:20.961
And so instead of these life hacks.

00:27:21.392 --> 00:27:23.471
Can we just have life, right?

00:27:23.471 --> 00:27:25.511
Like we don't need to hack everything.

00:27:26.872 --> 00:27:32.652
And so for me on this path, I got into the farming side, first of it.

00:27:33.142 --> 00:27:38.112
Um, because it goes back to what we put in and on our bodies.

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And if our food isn't grown in nutrient dense soil, then our food itself doesn't have the nutrients.

00:27:46.152 --> 00:27:48.261
So it can be organic all day long.

00:27:48.501 --> 00:27:53.192
Organic is basically just a list of chemicals that aren't sprayed.

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On the food, whereas regenerative is really much more about being a soil farmer.

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And so we're creating that diverse ecosystem within the soil.

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And oftentimes there are things like a cover crop or not plowing.

00:28:08.981 --> 00:28:10.711
And you hear this like, don't plow.

00:28:11.251 --> 00:28:13.791
The reason for that is if you think about your house.

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Right.

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The soil is this beautiful, almost like coral structure, but if you think of your house and it has all the furniture in it, and then once or twice a year, somebody comes in and flips it upside down and shakes it, and then everything goes like and smooshes together.

00:28:31.997 --> 00:28:35.176
That's what's happening with the plowing.

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So it's so much more than just don't put these things on.

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And what we see is that food has higher.

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nutrient capacity.

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It has more, almost think about it.

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It has more light energy in it.

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And when we put that light energy into our body, then it helps our mitochondrial function.

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It helps our energetic function and the list goes on and on and on.

00:29:00.632 --> 00:29:03.392
Um, so that was my, my entry.

00:29:03.662 --> 00:29:14.662
And interestingly, it came actually in the hemp world, um, which is not a space I ever would have foreseen that I would have ended up.

00:29:14.682 --> 00:29:20.001
And yet, um, the hemp plant itself is a beautiful plant.

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It's got this really long tap root, which helps it aerate the soil.

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It goes down deep.

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It creates that expansiveness in the pockets that the soil needs to be healthy.

00:29:32.366 --> 00:29:37.386
Um, and so I got into hemp in the way that we grew CBD hemp.

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We grew hemp for seed.

00:29:40.237 --> 00:29:43.267
So think about like the hemp hearts that you sprinkle on your food.

00:29:43.807 --> 00:29:48.852
Um, and then also Hemp for biomass.

00:29:49.281 --> 00:29:55.051
So biomass could be like people are starting to make hemp houses with hemp insulation.

00:29:55.541 --> 00:29:59.971
Um, there's use, they're using hemp insulation in cars.

00:30:00.001 --> 00:30:02.051
They're using it to make clothing, right?

00:30:02.051 --> 00:30:05.382
And the, there's so many ways that that goes.

00:30:05.761 --> 00:30:08.642
Um, And that's it.

00:30:08.662 --> 00:30:13.432
That's another industry that is, uh, full of interesting characters.

00:30:15.182 --> 00:30:15.662
Wow.

00:30:16.201 --> 00:30:33.031
And, uh, it's interesting how, um, you can learn a lot about yourself and life and the world around you by even tapping into that industry of agriculture, because you're learning how, Life works.

00:30:33.031 --> 00:30:44.051
I mean, I've grown stuff in the backyard and it's really cool and you think I'm going to grow stuff in my backyard because I want free food and when you grow it, you're like, it's not free.

00:30:44.132 --> 00:30:44.821
Not at all.

00:30:45.221 --> 00:30:45.571
There's a lot.

00:30:46.491 --> 00:30:47.551
There's a lot of work to it.

00:30:48.142 --> 00:30:48.882
I gotta spray it.

00:30:48.942 --> 00:30:49.511
But then I got right.

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Find the right spray.

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And there's a lot of work that goes into making sure that you maintain like that it's organic and then the soil.

00:30:57.406 --> 00:31:08.336
So I get it from the limited experience that I've had with my own journey of growing plants and killing them and, and eating from them and all that.

00:31:08.336 --> 00:31:18.942
And I like how you use the analogy of the light energy and I love seeing those images of The plant and the life energy.

00:31:18.971 --> 00:31:36.997
I forgot what you call it, but it's just you see the light around the leaves And then um the when you pull it from like like a fruit from a plant It has life in it, but the longer it was Disconnected the less light it will have so like ideally just pluck it eat it right away.

00:31:37.487 --> 00:31:42.086
Yeah You said there were some interesting characters and I just can't unhear that.

00:31:42.096 --> 00:31:44.196
Can you say like what do you what do you mean?

00:31:44.196 --> 00:31:45.346
By interesting characters,

00:31:46.446 --> 00:32:03.846
so the hemp industry is full of this gorgeous mix of people, um, who a lot of them are really well intentioned and good meaning and really want to bring things like the CBD to healing people.

00:32:04.047 --> 00:32:13.076
Um, or the hemp biomass as an alternative to some of the other products that we have that are less sustainable or regenerative out there.

00:32:13.797 --> 00:32:19.076
And then you have the people that got in because they thought it was the next gold rush.

00:32:19.422 --> 00:32:19.731
Right.

00:32:19.832 --> 00:32:21.201
We're going to make up a whole bunch of money.

00:32:21.821 --> 00:32:43.192
Um, and then you have, it may be some of both, but people that came from the legacy cannabis, the legacy marijuana industry, and because that was illegal for so long, they have a totally different way of operating and it's a lot of self regulation.

00:32:43.711 --> 00:32:49.271
Uh, and so some of that translates into.

00:32:49.696 --> 00:32:50.886
into the hemp world.

00:32:51.436 --> 00:32:55.477
Um, so it opened my eyes to a lot of things.

00:32:55.487 --> 00:32:56.797
It's also a nascent industry.

00:32:56.797 --> 00:32:58.467
It's a new industry.

00:32:58.807 --> 00:33:02.846
And so there are a lot of things that aren't figured out like supply chain.

00:33:02.846 --> 00:33:12.446
So it's not something like, Oh, farmers grow wheat in this country and it all goes into the grain silos and then food manufacturers buy it by the rail car.

00:33:13.112 --> 00:33:13.511
Right?

00:33:13.711 --> 00:33:14.632
Boom, boom, boom.

00:33:14.791 --> 00:33:16.632
There's always this much production.

00:33:16.781 --> 00:33:19.741
Yes, press fluctuates a little bit, but not that much.

00:33:20.142 --> 00:33:22.672
And we basically know where the demand is.

00:33:22.751 --> 00:33:40.007
In the hemp industry, even 10 years later, it's still getting figured out as to what that supply and demand issue is, which makes it really a challenge if you're in the supply side and maybe in the demand side.

00:33:40.007 --> 00:33:44.346
And then you've got legislation that's always changing or threatening to change.

00:33:44.527 --> 00:33:46.977
So there's just a lot of moving pieces and parts.

00:33:47.257 --> 00:33:47.686
Got it.

00:33:48.416 --> 00:34:12.092
And I remember hearing about Some regulations being, I don't know what you would call it, like, cancelled out or relieved or whatever because of a strong withhold or, um, I'm having a hard time with the words, but I just know that, um, the hemp industry has more opportunity now.

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EP 117 How an Ex-Healthcare Attorney Embraced Regenerative Health | Sara Cotterill

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