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How Money DNA Affects Your Limiting Habits and Financial Freedom | Judy Wilkins-Smith

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 In this episode we chat with expert Judy Wilkins Smith about breaking success barriers and changing money DNA. We discuss the power of understanding patterns, the importance of belonging and order, and the balance of giving and receiving. Judy shares examples of identifying patterns and offers insights on how to shift from a victim mentality. Lastly, we explore the relationship with money and discuss practical tips for financial growth. Tune in to discover how to transform your mindset and create abundance in your life 

Key Takeaways

  • Discover how your "Money DNA" affects your financial decisions and how to navigate it.
  • Learn why hitting a "brick wall" in success could be rooted in generational patterns.
  • Decode the patterns you carry to understand their origin and impact on your life.
  • Gain insights into the concept of "failing up" and why it's not a bad place to be.
  • Understand the systemic influences that can affect your entrepreneurial journey.

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the weirdest one I somebody who came in.

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And told me they were from Planet Zog which turned out, yeah, I, yeah, and everybody else around me is going, uh, and I'm just like, I just take a deep breath and go, here we go.

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Let's, let's see where we're going to, to go with this one.

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I think I'm the most fascinated when I hear people who've come from really difficult circumstances and the light suddenly goes on for them and I watch them start to move and evolve in that right in that moment.

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Those are the ones that, that always give me goosebumps.

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All right.

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Welcome to the new age human podcast where we empower entrepreneurial empaths to become successful conscious creators by diving into alternative health, mindfulness, and innovative technology.

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I'm your host, Jon Astacio, and today we're joined by Judy Wilkins Smith, who is an expert in breaking success barriers in both your professional and personal life.

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We'll dig deep into something called money DNA revealing how you can change your habits and old patterns that are holding you back financially.

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If you're looking to pivot towards sustainable growth and financial freedom, this episode is for you.

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Now, if you want to support the show, please leave a five star review on Apple podcast.

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With that said, thank you for joining us today.

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Let's get to the show.

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All right, cool.

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Well, Judy, thank you for coming on to the show.

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I really appreciate you.

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I'm excited to talk about how our ancestry DNA from our parents from way back when.

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More than what we're being told is being passed on A lot of times right we're being told about health Uh, you know it runs in the family and even that changes So i'm excited to have you on and break stuff down on on the spiritual side the money side Let's dig into it.

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Thanks for coming on

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I am super excited to be here.

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I like all of what you've said and what we're going to explore because, yes, it's not even that we haven't been told.

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I think people haven't realized and known that the patterns that they carry aren't just theirs and they're there for a very specific reason and once you start decoding it, yeah, life flows a whole lot more smoothly.

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Yeah, I can imagine.

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I know that, I'm not sure how many people in my audience is familiar with you, so why don't we give us, uh, give them a background on how you got into this because those stories are usually pretty cool.

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Oh yeah, there's a very, very weird way, actually.

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So, I was in the medical arena, left South Africa, moved over here.

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My father was killed here.

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And, um, it was either write books or go crazy, and I figured writing books might be a better option, so we went with that.

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And I was looking for, I was doing some research and bumped into somebody who was doing...

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Uh, family systems and constellations work.

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And that led me to, uh, well I started with that, went and studied with them.

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The person said, come study with me, I'll help you with a book.

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I went and studied and got zero help with a book, just, just saying.

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But, that led me into this, and then I had people saying to me, well if you could do it for individuals, can you do it for executives?

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Well yes, executives are individuals too, so that was easy.

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And then into business, can you help us?

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Look at, at pieces, places where we're stuck in our business.

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And the beautiful thing about constellations, which is a word for 3D movement, is, is that you're getting to see it, hear it, touch it, walk in it.

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So you're employing multiple senses, and I'll talk about that a bit later.

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But, what happened for me was somebody said to me, well, and then, remind me to go as well into why, why it's different.

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But somebody said to me, well, of course you could do it, and I said, huh, why?

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And they said, because you come from South Africa, and I went, what's that got to do with it?

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And they said, this is where the work began.

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It began with the Zulu tribe.

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So a full circle moment for me when they said that was, when I left the medical field, uh, the person who gave my farewell speech was a Zulu gentleman.

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And he said to me, you may be leaving us, but you'll find a way to represent us in the world.

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And I went, yeah, yeah.

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And now I do it every day.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You know, I want to add to that, Uh, from from what I understand also like the sun affects your DNA, right?

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Everything is light and, the different parts of the planet have different energy systems.

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And I can only imagine that the physical place that you were exploring and growing up.

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Had an effect on that so it was a natural direction that you went to and if it came full circle And then they knew that on top of that

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's, I've had that one and I had a, uh, teacher when I was eight.

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I said to her, I'm going to be a doctor.

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And she said, no, sweetheart, you're going to write books and help people's hearts.

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And I went, no, I'm not.

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She said, Tracy's going to be the doctor.

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You're going to do that.

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Tracy is now a doctor.

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And I do this.

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so wait wait And so when you were in eighth grade or eight years

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No, I was eight years old.

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And and and these you at least my experience you you rarely see a teacher Telling you no.

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This is what you're gonna.

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Do they're usually like what are you going to do what was different about your school though?

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Like, how, how are they so bold in saying those things?

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You know, I went to a school, we were 60 kids in a class.

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The teacher would walk in and just clap her hands twice, and there was dead silence, and we were one of the top schools in South Africa at the time.

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And, they were just really good about ethics and morals and, and good character, and I think in South Africa it really was at the time that the village raised the child.

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Hmm.

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It really was, and so a teacher could and would say those sorts of things, but she was super accurate.

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Tracy's the doctor, and I'm doing what I'm doing.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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That's interesting.

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And, and, I, I do see an importance of like the village helping raise the children because nowadays most families are left with.

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The burden of themselves and then both parents are forced to work and because if you didn't have the right money DNA and upbringing as well and background.

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There's a whole you know whole different slew of things that affect that So what I want to do is I know you said we'll get back to that What was the we'll get back to that

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was, what, no, what makes what I do a little different is that most constellators will look at a pattern, identify it, and then the pattern can stop.

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But for me, working with people, what I began to realize was more and more they were saying to me, okay, so now I know the pattern, but now what?

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And that's, I think, where my work shifted into a very different direction, because I work a lot in the and, now, what.

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So what I've recognized is that you inherit these patterns that come down through the family system and down through the generations, and they tweak you because now you want to, you're going, why?

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Why do we always have to struggle with money?

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Why do I struggle as an entrepreneur?

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Well, because he did, he did, and he did.

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But, the whole point of the pattern coming to you is for you to understand what the pattern is that's trying to stop and what the pattern is that's trying to start through you.

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Because you're the change agent.

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So you're literally, if you learn to look at it and you learn to look at systems this way, you're literally never stuck in your life.

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You may try to tell yourself you are, but you're not.

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And I like that word change agent.

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going back into your ancestry, what I'm gathering is that we're talking about, would you say that pattern?

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Is similar to the word karma

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You know, people have asked me that, here's, here's my answer to that.

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I don't know if we reincarnate.

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I don't know for sure one way or another.

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None of us know for sure, but I do know that patterns do.

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They definitely do.

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Patterns reincarnate through each generation, and the purpose of a pattern is there is an incompletion in the system, and it keeps getting louder and louder and expanding and expanding until somebody goes, Stop! Enough! I want to do it differently.

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And if you have a look at the moment with a whole...

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That the Middle East conflict that's there at the moment, that started back in the Bible.

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They didn't ever resolve that.

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They didn't ever work it through, and it just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

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And now we are where we are.

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And we will be there until each is, if each is seen and each is included.

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Because systems do not like exclusions.

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Anything you exclude will become a pattern that expands and repeats.

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well, that's fun.

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It is, for one reason, it's telling you, if you see me and give me my place, you are free to do what you need to do to write the chapter that only you can write.

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Could you give an example of identifying a pattern for somebody and how advice that you gave them Really helped?

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Make them a true change agent like fulfill that path.

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I'm curious to see like what that looks

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yeah, and sometimes people don't even realize it, so I'll give you one and you can tell me if that's what you're looking for, we'll look for another one.

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But I had a lady who came in and she said to me she wanted to do a piece of work and she said, but I want to do it with my back to the group because I don't belong, I'm really not worthy.

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And I said, okay, we'll do it with your back to the group.

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And she said, I really want to belong and I never belong.

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I want to belong in my family system and I don't belong.

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My brother belongs because he's stoic like they are.

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I'm very bouncy and bubbly and I don't belong.

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And I really want to belong.

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But she, and she said, but in my family, all they ever gave me were just little drops of love.

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That's all just little drops of love.

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And she kept on with this little drops of, of love.

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So I said to her, tell me about your parents, were they were holocaust survivors?

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And I said to her, okay, stop.

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Could they show you a lot of emotion?

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She said, no, they'd have been killed.

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So I said, but, they gave you little drops of love, didn't they?

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Yes.

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How do you do in your family?

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She said, my family, we're very loving, we're very together, have a great big community.

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So I said to her, you belong in your family, have, did you not realize that you were giving your family a legacy?

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Did you not realize that your belonging was to take the little drops and grow them into what you've grown?

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And she looked and you could and you see this often when you're doing this kind of work Her whole body just in boom and she said to me.

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Oh my goodness I do belong and you could see the rewiring happening in the moment and you will see you will watch it happen In the mind and you'll see it in the body.

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The body will often jolt.

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It's that big aha moment And, uh, she was, she was blown away.

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She said, I'll never be the same again.

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And this is, when we realize what the pattern is there to do, and that it's there as a gift, and that we're always supported by the universe, things begin to change.

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Now we don't think we're victims anymore.

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Now we can look at success and go, I, I'm successful and then I hit a brick wall.

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Who else hit a brick wall?

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Who else in the family?

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And are you taking on their pattern?

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And if you are, is it serving you or is that pattern asking you to go beyond the brick wall?

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So this is, this is very much about looking at what are the events?

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What have we made them mean?

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What are our thoughts, feelings, and actions around them?

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And that's the one that's often trying to stop.

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And then, what do I really want, wish, and desire in this particular space?

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Because that's your change agent space.

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That's the pattern trying to emerge.

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And if you follow that, and you commit to it, and the brain tells a body a story that is compelling enough, you cannot miss.

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You will get there.

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It's very interesting because you identified something based off of understanding the background and the situation of the family in the past and also, would you say that for people that are trying to just understand what's going on That their change agent plan is similar to their life's journey plan like they want to accomplish this in their life and because of the patterns of their family It's natural that they want that.

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Because of the patterns of their family, it's often natural that they'll get stuck.

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Because there's what we call a systemic trance.

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If I do this, this, and this, I belong in the family and I feel good.

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If I get too big for my boots, they could kick me out.

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So often we will, we will play smaller to belong.

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But the one who plays a little bit bigger doesn't realize you're never being kicked out of a system because it's literally impossible to not belong.

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What you're doing is you're simply moving a couple of steps ahead of the system and the rest of the system will catch up.

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Interesting and it seems like uh, would you not say the feeling of belonging comes up as a theme a lot?

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Is there any other themes that pop up that you notice?

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So there are three in living systems.

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Belonging is, is a number one, but order actually drives belonging.

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So for example, if you've had to play too big in your life and your mom and dad were small and you played big or you took care of them, you're what we call out of order, which is out of flow.

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And when that happens, if you've had to be too big or too small, it can affect the way that you belong.

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And then the third one is the balance of give and receive.

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If you give too much, you destroy relationships.

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If you give too little, you can sour them too.

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So those three are always in play.

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Belonging, Balance of Give and Receive and Order.

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You can look at anything in your life and it will fit into one of those three categories.

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And it's lovely because as soon as you know what the category is, you can begin then having a look to see, so, What is Off Balance?

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How do I not belong?

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Where am I too big or too small?

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What is it costing me?

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So, when I work with people, some people don't have any history.

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Many people don't have a lot of history.

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And so, what I do is I go straight to tell me your timeline.

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Tell me the significant events in your life, because they will have come from somewhere and we may not have that information, but we have yours.

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What are the themes?

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What are the things that you say?

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What are the things that you think?

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What do you feel?

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What do you do?

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When did that start for you?

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What was happening in your life at the time?

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And, is there anyone else that you know of in your family system who may have something similar?

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And sometimes, John, it's as simple as one word.

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It could be heart, it could be, what are the ones, I've had some, oh, I know, I'll tell you, one of my favorites.

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I had this lady come in and she said to me, first time, Oh my goodness, it was an absolute catastrophe, an utter disaster, that could have been just...

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I mean, it was a roasting.

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I can't believe what this day has been like.

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I was almost decimated, and frankly, nearly filleted.

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I mean, I nearly lost my, my body, and I'm like, Still, what happened?

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She said, well, I was a little bit late, my boss was annoyed.

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And I went, wait, that isn't that.

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That's extreme.

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stop.

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Do you have any, do you have any disasters or catastrophes in your family?

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And she said, no.

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Well, yeah, one.

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And I said to her, what was it?

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She said, my mother and I outran a volcano.

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My father and brother did not.

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And there it all was.

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The burning, the decimation, the catastrophe.

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And we talk about our systems all day long without realizing what we're doing.

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Our little sayings that we have, the ways that we think and act, those all come from the system, whether we know our family system or not.

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Wow, wow.

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That was pretty extreme.

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Not being able to outrun a volcano.

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That is extreme.

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Wow.

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Oh, I can imagine you hearing these things and having to put on a straight face so that they don't feel like weird, you know?

00:17:14.846 --> 00:17:15.056
you

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ever feel like you need to?

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Now I'm lucky.

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I'm so curious as to what's going to pop out that I think I'm, I'm so immersed in their story that it, it doesn't, and I have heard weird, I have heard weird, I've heard planets and all sorts of things, but they all,

00:17:32.455 --> 00:17:32.955
the weird?

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uh, the, the weirdest one that I did was somebody who came in.

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I actually, I had two, someone who came in and told me they were from Planet Zog Which turned out, yeah, I, yeah, and everybody else around me is going, uh, and I'm just like, because it turns into a person.

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It eventually represented that.

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And not, and then I had one for a horse, which

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They thought they were a horse?

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Nope, I had somebody who'd lost a horse.

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And they wanted to, there was a particular decision they had to make.

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So, but all around this horse.

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And then one about a desk.

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But in each one of those, it was never about the horse, the desk, or the planet.

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It was about a particular person or figure in their lives that had been evolved into this and as soon as we could identify that, well then you could bring it into the system and allow that to be there and everything settled down.

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But I have heard the wild and the fabulous.

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Wow.

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You know, and, and also having experienced and having those conversations with the wild and the fabulous allows you to really hone in on your skills and they really stretched your capacity to help someone out.

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I'm pretty sure you'll has there ever been a point where you're like, Nope, I don't think I can do this one.

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Nope.

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Actually not, believe it or not, there hasn't been.

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I just take a deep breath and go, here we go.

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Let's, let's see where we're going to, to go with this one.

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And I'm fascinated, I think I'm the most fascinated when I hear people who've come from really difficult circumstances and they, the, the light suddenly goes on for them and I watch them start to move and evolve in that right in that moment.

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Um, those are the ones that, that always give me goosebumps.

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And when I do live events, like the one I'm, I'm doing at Disney World in November, this is where it's, it's juicy and beautiful because you watch people seeing their system for a first, for the first time.

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Now, I spoke about a constellation.

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So let me just talk a little bit about what that is and how it helps entrepreneurs and business people, by the way, because I do a lot of that.

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So, what happens is somebody comes in, they say, I want to do a piece of work, they come sit next to me, and we talk about what it is they want to look at, where there's stuff, what the issue is, and we identify the components of that issue.

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So maybe it's mom, dad, sister, brother, grandmother, whatever it is.

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Maybe it's boss, CEO, CFO, COO, whatever the case may be.

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And then what I do is I ask the client to give me a picture of what that looks like.

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So I ask him to place them in spatial relationship to one another.

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So maybe we've got dad standing in the middle, mom standing off to the side, sister off to the side with mom, brother completely faced the other way around, you smack in the middle of everything.

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And then I begin to ask questions.

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So dad standing over there, what's mom doing over there?

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Oh, mom's always absent.

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Okay, tell me about mom.

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Then they'll tell me a little bit about mom's history, and as we go through it, that starts to link to the issue.

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Until eventually they can see why they're stuck, what's happened, they can speak it out loud, so now we're talking this through, they can hear the responses, because some of the, the, uh, representatives may respond, and I'll talk about that in a minute, or there may be a movement, and suddenly they, they will get, it clicks for them, this is why I'm stuck.

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This is where I got stuck.

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Do you want to stay stuck?

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Uh, no! So what are we going to do?

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So we start the reframe.

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And as they reframe, it's not just a nice idea, it actually starts to really hit at a deep level, so it rewires the neural pathways.

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And then it starts to hit at the head, heart, and gut level.

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And of course when the head, heart, and gut align, that's when you achieve a state of coherence, and that's when things start to move.

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So people say to me, what does that mean?

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And I said, I can't do that.

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Yes, you can.

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You do it every day.

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You go, Oh, that was a stupid thing that I did.

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I'm such an idiot.

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And you're feeling it in your body and your head's going, yep, you're an idiot.

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And your heart's going, yep, you're an idiot.

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And your gut's going, check, you're an idiot.

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This is just the different version of that.

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It's you're possible.

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You're smart.

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This isn't yours to carry.

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It's time to move.

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And it starts to, to balance all the way through.

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And you have the different sentences.

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So people say to me, but how did that representative know to say that, or this one know how to move?

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It's simple.

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We've never been taught to make the unconscious conscious and the invisible visible.

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A constellation does that.

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You're literally seeing your internal pattern in 3D right in front of you on the floor.

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So you're seeing it in front of you.

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Now then people say, but how did they key in?

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It's also simple.

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If you've ever watched AGT or, uh, American Idol, you know that moment when you see somebody hit their zone and you get goosebumps and everybody gets goosebumps or they're crying, you've sensed into their system.

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And we do that every day.

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We're just not taught that that's what we do, but it turns out it's a powerfully, powerfully, important part of Evolution.

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It's exactly how we evolve.

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We look at mom and dad doing three jobs and we go, I am not going to do that.

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I will get an education.

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That's a constellation.

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We've just not been taught that that's what we're doing.

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And when we make it a mindful process, like we do at these events, people start to jump very fast because they suddenly key into what they're doing.

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How the patterns have affected them, and what to do with those patterns.

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And by the way, that pattern that's plagued you, set you up for your life's purpose.

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That was its purpose.

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Always.

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There is no such thing as a straight train smash.

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It always contains the seeds of your ability to be great.

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Yeah, and I hear that a lot where someone said, I had this bad experience, but I'm glad it happened because I learned from it and now that I can help other people get over that situation, that pain, that struggle, that challenge.

00:24:16.760 --> 00:24:20.230
So I see where you're coming from with that, where it's that patent.

00:24:20.955 --> 00:24:27.016
That pattern, the created a constellation and my understanding of constellation.

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I'm thinking of stars.

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So I'm like, really listening in.

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I'm like, okay, so the stars are involved.

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speaking of stars.

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Yeah,

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and stars.

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Think about it.

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If you went to the, any of the star signs or any of the star complexes or constellations, if any one of those stars wasn't there, it wouldn't be that, that constellation.

00:24:52.881 --> 00:24:53.721
true.

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Yep, so everything belongs and this is the other thing that we forget.

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The good, the bad and the ugly all belong.

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They're all serving a purpose.

00:25:03.800 --> 00:25:10.611
It's when you learn to look systemically that the good is really good and the bad is not what you thought it was.

00:25:10.621 --> 00:25:18.601
Sometimes what looks really bad may have been good in one, uh, generation, not so good now.

00:25:18.641 --> 00:25:20.641
It's simply asking you to change.

00:25:21.381 --> 00:25:28.500
Or you may find that the villains in prior generations actually set up success in your generation.

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So they're not as bad as we thought.

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Absolutely.

00:25:31.871 --> 00:25:40.510
It's that, um, I'm thinking of the word, the oscillation of like the ebb and flow of the good and the bad, the yin and the yang, the light, the dark.

00:25:40.510 --> 00:25:41.911
You can't have one without the other.

00:25:41.911 --> 00:25:44.480
And that's a really hard pill to swallow too.

00:25:44.490 --> 00:25:47.631
Like some people are like, it's really hard to swallow that.

00:25:47.641 --> 00:25:47.810
There's.

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I don't want to say necessary evil, but there are just ebbs and flows, and depending on where you are in that experience is how you're describing it.

00:25:56.296 --> 00:25:58.056
So I totally see where you're coming from.

00:25:58.415 --> 00:26:11.695
my, actually, I, I, I, I did want to ask, do you, what are your thoughts on the actual constellations when people use astrology, and they're like, oh, you're a Capricorn, you're an Aquarius, and that affects you?

00:26:11.695 --> 00:26:12.736
Because we're talking about...

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Systems and patterns that are influencing people.

00:26:16.605 --> 00:26:17.586
Do you ever play with that?

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Does that ever get involved in your, your,

00:26:20.300 --> 00:26:26.300
It doesn't, but it certainly wouldn't bother me if somebody came in and told me they were a Leo or a Capricorn or whatever it was.

00:26:26.701 --> 00:26:29.601
I would want to know, here's how I would use it.

00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:31.790
What does that mean for you?

00:26:32.330 --> 00:26:38.000
Because there's something important in that that I need to understand that you're making meaning of.

00:26:38.310 --> 00:26:44.320
Because don't forget, it's our thoughts, feelings, and actions as a result of any event.

00:26:44.776 --> 00:27:12.855
That creates a pattern that creates a mindset that then becomes the truth only it's not the truth It's your truth and you can change that anytime you want and the other thing that people go huh when I start with is we're all incredible spell masters and We're doing it all day long You're casting spells all day long some of them not so nice on yourself and others you're stupid at math You'll always be stupid at math, okay?

00:27:14.800 --> 00:27:15.891
Look what you just did.

00:27:15.901 --> 00:27:17.290
You're going to be incredible.

00:27:17.361 --> 00:27:17.701
Wow.

00:27:17.730 --> 00:27:18.221
Okay.

00:27:18.911 --> 00:27:21.510
We do not realize the impact of what we're saying.

00:27:21.520 --> 00:27:31.901
We think we do, but literally our words create our reality and most people do not understand when we say that, but it's true.

00:27:32.201 --> 00:27:34.080
Our thoughts, feelings, and actions.

00:27:35.865 --> 00:27:40.266
Yeah, you are what you think about most of the time, whether you speak it or think it.

00:27:40.276 --> 00:27:42.266
So I definitely agree with that.

00:27:42.645 --> 00:27:53.046
And also with the, uh, the phrase I really like, I wanted to bring it up again, because I really like that phrase or what you said, which is helping people bring the unconscious.

00:27:53.635 --> 00:27:56.996
conscious, like bringing what's going on in the background.

00:27:57.006 --> 00:27:58.826
That's just saying yes to everything.

00:27:59.326 --> 00:28:08.986
And then showing yourself consciously that like, see how much times the stuff that you said, they said, you, you yourself said yes to everything, like pay attention to that.

00:28:08.996 --> 00:28:09.615
So I like how

00:28:09.711 --> 00:28:12.090
And why did I say yes to everything?

00:28:12.101 --> 00:28:14.050
Who else says yes to everything?

00:28:14.601 --> 00:28:17.780
What does it say about me when I am saying yes to everything?

00:28:17.780 --> 00:28:19.780
Does that make me a better person, a smarter?

00:28:20.111 --> 00:28:20.611
What is it?

00:28:20.661 --> 00:28:26.431
Because there is something about what I'm doing and saying that is really, really important.

00:28:26.840 --> 00:28:29.750
Everything you do and say is really important.

00:28:30.371 --> 00:28:42.171
It's trying to get your attention and show you where the pattern is that wants to stop and where the pattern is that's trying to drive you, not drive you, invite you to your, to your, uh, destiny.

00:28:42.510 --> 00:28:44.810
The one is a fate, the other one is a destiny.

00:28:45.865 --> 00:28:46.286
Hmm.

00:28:46.786 --> 00:28:57.895
And, I also wanted to bring up, I remember watching one of your interviews and I forgot her name, but he, you brought up the understanding or the, just, just the concept.

00:28:58.205 --> 00:29:06.941
That you're working on helping people with which is victim mentality, and I think that's A growing thing like an epidemic and

00:29:07.086 --> 00:29:07.905
huge

00:29:08.520 --> 00:29:09.961
I would love for you to go into that.

00:29:10.145 --> 00:29:10.855
horrible.

00:29:11.506 --> 00:29:12.826
Yes, I'll go into that.

00:29:12.855 --> 00:29:15.935
See, what happened was, we spoke about belonging, right?

00:29:16.496 --> 00:29:18.066
And people need to belong.

00:29:18.375 --> 00:29:21.736
And so, if we create a game that's big enough, people will play it.

00:29:22.296 --> 00:29:26.965
And what's happened is, they've now gone, Well, if you're not a victim, you don't deserve to be a success.

00:29:27.855 --> 00:29:30.605
If you're not a victim, you really don't belong.

00:29:30.615 --> 00:29:31.016
Because it's...

00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:33.891
The ones who've suffered who belong.

00:29:34.181 --> 00:29:40.121
So now everybody thinks, ah ha, the key to success is, I must first struggle, flop and be a victim.

00:29:40.340 --> 00:29:41.131
And it's awful.

00:29:42.381 --> 00:29:44.280
It's really bad.

00:29:45.211 --> 00:29:58.810
There is another whole idea, which is, you know what, if I want something, and I keep doing what I need to do, and I keep moving towards it, I could actually also be really happy getting there.

00:29:59.500 --> 00:30:02.730
People talk a lot about suffering shaped me.

00:30:03.961 --> 00:30:12.391
Okay, we could stay with that old pattern and it's a very old meta pattern that needs to rest a little bit or share some space.

00:30:12.881 --> 00:30:19.401
But there is another pattern that says, Oh my goodness, I just had the most unbelievable experience.

00:30:19.421 --> 00:30:21.790
I will never be the same again.

00:30:22.671 --> 00:30:26.000
Those are equally valid and we don't invest in them.

00:30:26.411 --> 00:30:27.901
What are we doing?

00:30:28.846 --> 00:30:29.996
Victim is fine.

00:30:30.006 --> 00:30:32.405
It is one half of the language.

00:30:33.125 --> 00:30:35.756
But the opposite of a victim is not a perpetrator.

00:30:36.105 --> 00:30:38.165
The opposite of a victim is a master.

00:30:41.441 --> 00:30:42.211
Very interesting.

00:30:42.211 --> 00:30:44.701
Could you elaborate on the master versus the victim?

00:30:44.915 --> 00:30:45.715
Absolutely.

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If I am a victim all the time, everything is happening at me and for me, and I think that God thinks I'm amazing, or the universe, or the guides, or whatever we want to call it, I'm amazing because I've suffered so much, I'm going to die well and they'll give me seat L34 at the top.

00:31:01.516 --> 00:31:02.945
Ain't probably gonna happen.

00:31:03.865 --> 00:31:04.701
How is it?

00:31:04.971 --> 00:31:18.471
We were given incredible capabilities and we don't use them, we don't say, you know what John, today I'm going to go and do X.

00:31:19.171 --> 00:31:22.090
Doesn't matter how many people get in the way, I'm doing it.

00:31:22.451 --> 00:31:23.851
I am committed to this.

00:31:24.080 --> 00:31:25.361
I love what I'm doing.

00:31:25.401 --> 00:31:26.141
Here we go.

00:31:26.570 --> 00:31:27.161
No, no, no, no.

00:31:27.191 --> 00:31:29.711
It just takes me to say, are you crazy?

00:31:29.711 --> 00:31:31.580
And you go, yeah, well that was a lame idea, right?

00:31:33.701 --> 00:31:34.631
Don't do that.

00:31:35.111 --> 00:31:35.800
Don't do that.

00:31:36.526 --> 00:31:47.695
If you want to populate your library in a way that's going to take you out of being a victim, your internal library, take an inventory of how much you have done that is good and right.

00:31:48.135 --> 00:31:50.955
Not just all the grand things, EVERYTHING.

00:31:51.435 --> 00:31:54.096
And then start telling yourself better stories.

00:31:55.135 --> 00:31:57.596
Do you watch a horror do you watch horror movies?

00:31:59.411 --> 00:32:01.280
I occasionally.

00:32:01.316 --> 00:32:03.445
Yeah, so not that often though, right?

00:32:05.175 --> 00:32:10.375
But you're really good at telling yourself horror stories about yourself every day and believing them.

00:32:12.270 --> 00:32:14.441
Well, yeah, because I'm telling myself the horror story.

00:32:14.651 --> 00:32:18.820
Yes! Instead of, hey, you know what you did right today?

00:32:18.921 --> 00:32:20.101
That was awesome.

00:32:20.421 --> 00:32:21.921
We're taught to not do that.

00:32:22.191 --> 00:32:26.030
We're taught that humble means you suffer, you scramble, you scrabble.

00:32:26.050 --> 00:32:27.980
That is not humble.

00:32:28.601 --> 00:32:32.310
Some of the humblest people I know are some of the most famous people I know.

00:32:32.691 --> 00:32:39.921
It takes courage to stand up there and go, hey, there's another way and it's quite fun or it's really good.

00:32:40.030 --> 00:32:43.480
Because people will blast you because old thinking says...

00:32:43.955 --> 00:32:46.185
Being a victim is absolutely amazing.

00:32:46.185 --> 00:32:49.645
Oh, and then comes my next favorite word or next favorite phrase.

00:32:50.086 --> 00:32:55.986
We must fight for it Ugh, why?

00:32:57.336 --> 00:32:57.986
We don't have to

00:32:57.990 --> 00:32:58.211
Yeah.

00:32:58.211 --> 00:32:58.510
Right.

00:32:59.226 --> 00:33:02.125
All you've got to do is commit, choose, and go.

00:33:04.840 --> 00:33:05.090
Yeah.

00:33:05.090 --> 00:33:08.681
And that comes from that understanding that, uh, I forgot we called it.

00:33:08.701 --> 00:33:11.381
It was like a meta phrase where, or a meta.

00:33:12.675 --> 00:33:30.601
Meta patent of having to overcome a huge challenge and it could be something where you just you see what you want to do and then you just go and not be ready for a challenge because if you are not the person you need to be.

00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:40.161
As far as the person you want to be, you're gonna have row bumps anyways, but, uh, you're, you're saying don't go looking for them.

00:33:40.171 --> 00:33:40.891
Just go.

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And stop identifying everything as sacrifice, suffering.

00:33:46.155 --> 00:33:48.165
My daughter got that one pretty early on.

00:33:48.185 --> 00:34:15.621
She came, she said to me, yes, while everybody else was playing, I sacrificed my time so I could become a doctor and I said to her you could stop right there and she said why I said you didn't sacrifice anything you agreed to the entry fee that was the entry fee don't make it about sacrifice you paid the fee be glad you paid the fee because you're going to be very glad when you're a doctor she'll she'll often say to me so no suffering no no suffering we're not doing that

00:34:17.630 --> 00:34:24.351
I, I like the, uh, another word I like is, uh, I invested a lot of time because now you're, that is that purposeful,

00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:25.431
I like that

00:34:27.271 --> 00:34:29.960
like, uh, if, if I put.

00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.460
In my mind, I invest this time.

00:34:33.141 --> 00:34:37.130
It's an agreement that I made and subconsciously it's like, yeah, yeah.

00:34:37.130 --> 00:34:38.161
Because it's going to come back.

00:34:38.161 --> 00:34:38.380
Right.

00:34:38.391 --> 00:34:40.920
It's going to come back and like, you're right, sir.

00:34:42.371 --> 00:34:42.670
Yeah.

00:34:44.601 --> 00:34:48.981
And, and then if you say I sacrifice all this time, now it's poor me.

00:34:49.021 --> 00:34:50.130
Can you pat me on the back?

00:34:50.181 --> 00:34:51.130
I want a hug.

00:34:51.451 --> 00:34:55.981
And subconsciously it's like, yeah, we are not, whatever.

00:34:55.990 --> 00:35:00.510
We're the victim and we need help versus, you know, I'm making the move.

00:35:00.610 --> 00:35:01.621
I'm going for it.

00:35:02.161 --> 00:35:02.661
It's.

00:35:03.150 --> 00:35:03.971
It's what we're doing.

00:35:03.971 --> 00:35:06.690
It's, it's, I'm not looking for handouts type of thing.

00:35:06.690 --> 00:35:09.121
Like it's, and, and I'm not ashamed of it.

00:35:09.420 --> 00:35:10.050
Oh, you know what?

00:35:10.141 --> 00:35:13.621
Something came up to me, came up for me when you were talking.

00:35:15.231 --> 00:35:15.871
Humble.

00:35:17.621 --> 00:35:21.271
I can see it commonly thought of that humble people.

00:35:22.286 --> 00:35:29.865
Had to eat some humble pie, or mentally put them down, or had to go through a struggle.

00:35:29.905 --> 00:35:32.416
What are your thoughts on someone who can be humble?

00:35:32.425 --> 00:35:37.315
Or can I ask you, can you be humble and not go through a crazy challenge?

00:35:37.356 --> 00:35:38.005
How does that

00:35:38.186 --> 00:35:42.916
your chances are that you may go through a challenge, but it's what you do with it that counts.

00:35:43.476 --> 00:35:49.206
But here's, on my website, one of the first things that's there is how big are you willing to be?

00:35:49.686 --> 00:35:52.996
And people always say to me, isn't that a little egotistical?

00:35:52.996 --> 00:35:54.465
And I say, uh uh, no.

00:35:55.135 --> 00:36:00.795
Because the day you agree to be the biggest version of yourself possible is the humblest day of your life.

00:36:01.496 --> 00:36:07.925
It's the first time that you agree to be responsible for growing as big a life as you can grow.

00:36:08.425 --> 00:36:10.356
And now you're in service of the universe.

00:36:11.115 --> 00:36:13.746
So, you may have gone through a challenge.

00:36:14.626 --> 00:36:18.806
That's only because, as you said earlier, you weren't there yet.

00:36:19.746 --> 00:36:21.996
And you're now, you're now leveling up.

00:36:22.530 --> 00:36:26.121
I prefer to think of a challenge as levelling, at least levelling up.

00:36:26.501 --> 00:36:32.971
That's a lot more fun for me than I've suffered my way to the, no, I've learned a lot.

00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:40.231
Somebody said to me, a couple of days ago, one of the clients I was working with, I never lose.

00:36:40.331 --> 00:36:41.090
I love this thing.

00:36:41.090 --> 00:36:43.510
So if he's, if he listens, he'll know who he is.

00:36:43.510 --> 00:36:45.001
He said, I never lose.

00:36:45.050 --> 00:36:46.021
And I said to him, okay.

00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:50.391
He said, because I either win or if I don't win, I learn.

00:36:50.451 --> 00:36:51.141
So I never lose.

00:36:53.096 --> 00:36:56.076
That's, that's what we're talking about.

00:36:56.326 --> 00:36:57.536
You do not need to lose.

00:37:00.445 --> 00:37:06.135
And some people look forward to losing which is or quote unquote losing they're like we're like, let's let's see how this rolls

00:37:06.795 --> 00:37:09.106
Yes, let's see how we can fail up.

00:37:09.425 --> 00:37:11.385
Failing up's not a bad place to be.

00:37:12.376 --> 00:37:49.460
Yeah, right if you would like I know that One of your specialties is talking about money DNA and I know people listening would love to appreciate that especially now when there's Inflation going on and there's all this I call it fear porn around everything is going to collapse and I don't want to Poopoo the idea of preparing, but, we know things are changing and could possibly get worse and I'm sure they are, but a lot of it could be, like you said, how you handle the situation.

00:37:49.471 --> 00:37:55.161
And I think going into money DNA can help a lot if you can give any pointers on perspectives and tips.

00:37:56.235 --> 00:37:56.766
absolutely.

00:37:56.965 --> 00:37:59.396
So with money DNA, it's like emotional DNA.

00:37:59.405 --> 00:38:05.365
You don't just inherit physical DNA, you also inherit money, uh, emotional DNA and money DNA.

00:38:05.735 --> 00:38:14.416
And your money DNA, if you sit down, the way to identify what yours is, is to sit down and write down all your thoughts, feelings, and actions around money.

00:38:14.516 --> 00:38:15.076
All of them.

00:38:15.076 --> 00:38:17.496
Don't censor it, just write them down.

00:38:17.806 --> 00:38:18.846
Then have a look at it.

00:38:18.896 --> 00:38:21.195
Ask yourself, when did that begin for me?

00:38:21.626 --> 00:38:23.686
What was happening in my life at the time?

00:38:24.206 --> 00:38:26.835
Is there such a pattern in my family?

00:38:26.835 --> 00:38:30.005
And then you, you ask yourself, is this serving me?

00:38:30.025 --> 00:38:32.516
If not, what do I want to do differently?

00:38:33.056 --> 00:38:37.626
If you know of disasters in your family, that doesn't mean that that's your disaster.

00:38:37.626 --> 00:38:38.315
That's there.

00:38:38.806 --> 00:38:39.956
You're here to change it.

00:38:40.036 --> 00:38:40.826
Don't be lazy.

00:38:40.916 --> 00:38:41.766
Go change it.

00:38:42.306 --> 00:38:46.775
But, the other thing about money DNA is we're not taught that money is an and.

00:38:47.766 --> 00:38:49.405
We are taught it's an or.

00:38:50.315 --> 00:38:51.545
It's love or money.

00:38:51.835 --> 00:38:53.206
It's ethics or money.

00:38:53.485 --> 00:38:54.686
It's friends or money.

00:38:54.686 --> 00:38:55.925
That is not the truth.

00:38:55.945 --> 00:38:57.385
It's never been the truth.

00:38:57.826 --> 00:38:58.846
That is a lie.

00:38:59.231 --> 00:39:04.570
It is love and money, relationships and money, friendships and money.

00:39:04.931 --> 00:39:06.610
Money is not a commodity.

00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:12.041
It's a relationship and it'll show up for you the way that you show up for it.

00:39:13.641 --> 00:39:16.851
hmm, it reminds me of, uh, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

00:39:17.780 --> 00:39:20.570
You can have your cake and eat it too.

00:39:20.900 --> 00:39:27.110
That's the whole with that other dirty myths snuck its way in there and it's not the truth.

00:39:27.710 --> 00:39:28.880
You absolutely can.

00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:31.820
Now, if you are not ethical, are you going to eat horrible cake?

00:39:31.826 --> 00:39:32.210
Yes.

00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:35.510
And if you're not nice, are you going to enjoy the cake?

00:39:35.521 --> 00:39:36.510
Probably not.

00:39:37.231 --> 00:39:43.271
But, the biggest lesson for all of us is you don't need to be a misery to succeed.

00:39:43.550 --> 00:39:45.740
You don't need to be unethical to succeed.

00:39:46.021 --> 00:39:49.800
And you certainly don't need to be a cheat to succeed or to have money.

00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:54.121
In fact, a lot of people will come to me and they say, I want to be richer than I am now.

00:39:54.121 --> 00:39:58.541
At which point I take a penny out of my wallet and give them that and then we're good, you know.

00:39:59.121 --> 00:40:01.391
But, a lot of them say, I want to be wealthy.

00:40:01.391 --> 00:40:02.920
And I say, okay, tell me about wealth.

00:40:03.331 --> 00:40:11.561
Well, you know those lying, those lying, cheating, nasty, greedy people says, go, okay, so you want to become a liar, a cheater, thief, and nasty.

00:40:12.030 --> 00:40:12.231
Well, no.

00:40:13.260 --> 00:40:18.360
Well, if you think of it that way, if your brain is wired that way, those are your thoughts and feelings.

00:40:18.581 --> 00:40:23.440
How do you think you will even see money opportunities in front of you?

00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:24.150
You cannot.

00:40:24.510 --> 00:40:26.021
You've wired your brain shut.

00:40:26.021 --> 00:40:29.001
Your heart is closed and your guts on vacation.

00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:30.311
It's not happening.

00:40:32.391 --> 00:40:47.780
That's, that's funny because, depending on your environment, your, your family, if you grew up with a, uh, well to do, let's say a wealthy family and they were good people, you're going to assume that people that have wealth are good people, right?

00:40:47.780 --> 00:40:52.880
And when you see the bad ones out there, you're going to say, well, you know, not everybody's perfect.

00:40:52.891 --> 00:40:54.851
There's good and bad on different levels.

00:40:54.911 --> 00:41:09.021
But, Knowing, not knowing that and coming from a place where that's all you saw was, you know, the evil villain that wants to take over the world and, you know, tv programming and then you're like, you know, I don't want, I don't, I don't need money.

00:41:09.300 --> 00:41:14.030
I can, I can, I just need to survive and get by and then I can be a good person.

00:41:14.030 --> 00:41:18.030
I can be a good man, a good woman and you're like cringing.

00:41:18.391 --> 00:41:26.521
I am, because poor money's going not again, I'm being villainized again, and money cringes too.

00:41:26.570 --> 00:41:36.561
I mean, it's waiting for people to see how much good, how much flow, how much wiseness it brings, that it is a really good relationship to have.

00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:42.990
We definitely bought the spell that says, you know, it's not a good thing.

00:41:43.411 --> 00:41:45.201
Could not be further from the truth.

00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:50.800
If you start having a relationship with money, watch your money change.

00:41:53.460 --> 00:41:56.005
Is there any, I know you said, yeah.

00:41:56.456 --> 00:42:10.016
Write down your feelings towards money and then circle about it and then Reflect on on any patterns you see or where that came from Is there any other?

00:42:11.016 --> 00:42:25.856
Technique that you could offer someone That may feel like they're stuck like they hit a plateau financially and Anything that they seemingly do doesn't work.

00:42:26.385 --> 00:42:27.155
Like, that's it.

00:42:27.155 --> 00:42:28.376
I can't make any more money.

00:42:28.376 --> 00:42:29.686
There goes another program.

00:42:30.045 --> 00:42:31.896
what do you, what do you tell that person?

00:42:32.550 --> 00:42:37.371
they can, but they're going to have to change the mindset, thoughts, feelings, and actions first.

00:42:37.990 --> 00:42:42.871
Now, but what I would tell such a person is if they really, because here's, here's the deal breaker.

00:42:43.505 --> 00:42:46.096
Do you really want to make more money?

00:42:46.096 --> 00:42:48.215
Do you really want to have more and be wealthy?

00:42:48.496 --> 00:42:53.306
Or is that just a nice idea or something that you blast and label as being not nice?

00:42:53.856 --> 00:42:59.815
If you blast and label it as being not nice, it doesn't matter what money does in front of you, you won't see it.

00:43:00.576 --> 00:43:05.235
If you really want it, if you want it, that's more of a want to want.

00:43:05.536 --> 00:43:10.135
If you really want it, then I'm going to tell you a wild thing to do and it works.

00:43:10.545 --> 00:43:34.425
And I make all my clients do it, who are executives, I make them go on a money walk, go on a money walk, go and have a conversation with money, tell it all of your thoughts, your fears, your actions, have a talk to it as though it was a friend walking right next to you and start watching what happens for you because you're going to start getting insights into what you're saying, what you're thinking, what you're doing.

00:43:34.835 --> 00:43:39.186
And by the way, money is not the inanimate object that we suppose it to be.

00:43:39.436 --> 00:43:40.306
It is flow.

00:43:40.416 --> 00:43:41.326
It is listening.

00:43:41.846 --> 00:43:46.286
Do you start making friends with money and watch your money situation change?

00:43:47.826 --> 00:43:52.065
I, I think that's a really cool and awesome thing to do.

00:43:52.545 --> 00:43:53.295
my thought.

00:43:53.795 --> 00:44:02.206
I get a little wild in my thoughts and I'm thinking, would it be a problem if I get into an argument with this imaginary money friend of mine?

00:44:02.826 --> 00:44:03.295
And then...

00:44:04.065 --> 00:44:04.485
No.

00:44:04.565 --> 00:44:08.235
Because now you have an imaginary friend with you that's, that's money.

00:44:08.746 --> 00:44:10.626
And now you have problems now.

00:44:10.655 --> 00:44:11.346
But that's just a

00:44:11.425 --> 00:44:11.726
No.

00:44:11.726 --> 00:44:12.326
Listen to the

00:44:12.396 --> 00:44:13.065
doubt anybody has...

00:44:14.876 --> 00:44:26.885
Like it talks back, but that's like you having your conversation with your subconscious by giving it a physical identity so that you can have a conversation because you can digest that conversation,

00:44:27.005 --> 00:44:27.876
Absolutely.

00:44:27.876 --> 00:44:29.885
You, you could digest that conversation.

00:44:29.885 --> 00:44:32.346
You can pay attention to your feelings.

00:44:32.346 --> 00:44:33.905
You can pay attention to your actions.

00:44:33.911 --> 00:44:36.036
Well, I'm not, I'm not gonna talk to you anymore.

00:44:36.335 --> 00:44:36.666
Good.

00:44:36.666 --> 00:44:39.306
So do you ever talk to your money and or look at it at home?

00:44:39.726 --> 00:44:40.326
Well, no.

00:44:40.326 --> 00:44:43.286
I mean, okay, now you know why you're not doing anything.

00:44:43.286 --> 00:44:44.545
You're not even looking at the stuff.

00:44:46.335 --> 00:44:47.065
Interesting.

00:44:47.255 --> 00:44:53.085
Has anybody had like an interesting visual what they saw money turn into as far as like what,

00:44:53.251 --> 00:44:55.840
I've had a couple, I've had a couple of people do that.

00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:59.971
I've also had my own experience where I went and had a long conversation with money.

00:45:00.481 --> 00:45:05.150
About a two hour walk and on the way back I picked up money as I was walking and not just once.

00:45:06.420 --> 00:45:07.431
Wow.

00:45:07.860 --> 00:45:12.271
So if you want it, literally money is falling out of the skies.

00:45:12.561 --> 00:45:13.900
So everybody, that's a good tip.

00:45:14.141 --> 00:45:17.911
have a conversation with money after two hours, you might step on some.

00:45:18.141 --> 00:45:18.820
That's really cool.

00:45:19.170 --> 00:45:19.840
You might.

00:45:20.190 --> 00:45:20.800
I have.

00:45:21.891 --> 00:45:22.260
Wow.

00:45:22.871 --> 00:45:26.771
As we come to a close here, I think we spoke about a lot of really cool stuff.

00:45:26.771 --> 00:45:39.501
We talked about uh ancestral DNA And like the emotional DNA the money DNA having conversation with money stepping on money is there anything that you in our commerce and and victim mentality?

00:45:39.710 --> 00:45:46.840
Is there anything that you feel in our conversation that you feel you overlooked or you want to come back to to kind of?

00:45:46.951 --> 00:45:49.590
Clarify or that anything we missed

00:45:50.376 --> 00:45:51.945
I would say not really.

00:45:51.956 --> 00:45:53.545
The only, there are two things.

00:45:53.545 --> 00:45:56.576
One is you're a remarkable life if you know how to see it.

00:45:57.496 --> 00:46:00.155
But number two is you're not stuck and you're not a victim.

00:46:00.896 --> 00:46:01.536
You're not.

00:46:02.275 --> 00:46:04.286
Unless you think so and then good luck.

00:46:06.786 --> 00:46:10.246
Yeah, yeah, and you know, that's a that's a hard.

00:46:10.755 --> 00:46:11.036
Okay.

00:46:11.045 --> 00:46:21.615
I don't want to say that is a hard pill to swallow I'm gonna say that I can see that being a Challenge for people and that could be just my perspective, right?

00:46:21.675 --> 00:46:32.726
I got to check on myself, too Because I know myself I would hesitate to say certain things because I feel like there's someone's Brain's going to fry, right?

00:46:32.735 --> 00:46:35.916
Like it was just, you can't, you know, that movie, you can't handle the truth.

00:46:35.945 --> 00:46:39.556
Is there ever a time where you're like, should I say this statement?

00:46:39.576 --> 00:46:43.175
Because I don't think they can handle the truth right now.

00:46:43.755 --> 00:46:47.266
Well, there's a gentler version that they can certainly go and look at.

00:46:47.715 --> 00:46:55.635
That's why I wrote the book I wrote because it shows people how to take those steps literally little step by little step by little step.

00:46:56.255 --> 00:46:57.655
it's very practical.

00:46:57.686 --> 00:47:01.516
I wrote it so that nobody needed to stay stuck.

00:47:03.425 --> 00:47:03.865
Okay.

00:47:04.115 --> 00:47:06.235
So what is that book?

00:47:06.286 --> 00:47:07.025
And

00:47:07.166 --> 00:47:09.686
is Decoding Your Emotional Blueprint.

00:47:10.786 --> 00:47:11.235
perfect.

00:47:12.056 --> 00:47:13.826
and you can get that like on Amazon

00:47:13.835 --> 00:47:18.545
Oh, you can get it at Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, Audible, you name it, it's out there.

00:47:18.556 --> 00:47:25.916
It's, it's become a little gem of its own that's, people go, Oh, this is practical.

00:47:25.916 --> 00:47:27.795
And I go, that was the intention.

00:47:28.721 --> 00:47:31.650
You're like, yes, high fives to me.

00:47:32.525 --> 00:47:36.135
They're actually good, good for them because it's all of them who are doing the work.

00:47:36.135 --> 00:47:38.525
But a lot of business people read this book.

00:47:38.525 --> 00:47:43.215
A lot of people who, feel like they want more and they're a little bit stuck, they read the book.

00:47:43.275 --> 00:47:45.186
Or they come see me at a live event.

00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:47.190
That's awesome.

00:47:47.490 --> 00:47:50.161
so we have that book.

00:47:50.170 --> 00:48:02.041
Is there anything that you're working on now that you want to give people a sneak peek about or give like a heads up so that if they're looking to contact you, they know something that's like fresh coming out or something that's new that they can appreciate.

00:48:02.666 --> 00:48:07.146
Something that will be coming out probably next year is Genealogy 1.

00:48:07.146 --> 00:48:07.460
2.

00:48:07.460 --> 00:48:07.775
3.

00:48:07.775 --> 00:48:10.005
In other words, Genealogy 3.

00:48:10.005 --> 00:48:10.246
0, 2.

00:48:10.246 --> 00:48:11.045
0, and 1.

00:48:11.045 --> 00:48:12.275
0.

00:48:12.275 --> 00:48:12.295
1.

00:48:12.295 --> 00:48:13.865
0, they all know, go spit in a bottle.

00:48:14.425 --> 00:48:15.255
Genealogy 3.

00:48:15.255 --> 00:48:24.550
0 is me, but there is an intriguing little piece in between, and our genealogy is not as small Or as confined as we thought it was.

00:48:24.791 --> 00:48:27.351
It is a doorway to all sorts of things.

00:48:28.650 --> 00:48:29.221
Hmm.

00:48:29.721 --> 00:48:34.320
Can you, do you mind elaborating on these sorts of things?

00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:34.661
Or is that

00:48:35.001 --> 00:48:35.641
Not at all.

00:48:35.641 --> 00:48:37.891
So, your genealogy 1.

00:48:37.891 --> 00:48:38.751
0 is where do I belong?

00:48:39.391 --> 00:48:40.271
That's important.

00:48:40.621 --> 00:48:41.371
Genealogy 2.

00:48:41.371 --> 00:48:45.771
0 is where did, what events happened in my genealogy?

00:48:46.561 --> 00:48:47.686
In other words, in my family system.

00:48:47.686 --> 00:48:48.021
Genealogy 3.

00:48:48.021 --> 00:48:53.411
0 is okay, now let's have a look at the places where you think you're stuck.

00:48:53.721 --> 00:48:55.570
Or where you're wanting to amp things up.

00:48:56.090 --> 00:48:58.891
And link all three of those and here you go.

00:48:58.891 --> 00:49:00.210
You're now not stuck anymore.

00:49:00.210 --> 00:49:02.141
In fact, you're going to start flying.

00:49:02.550 --> 00:49:03.990
In fact, guess what?

00:49:04.030 --> 00:49:07.951
Your purpose is sitting right in front of your nose and this will show you how.

00:49:08.197 --> 00:49:08.916
I love it.

00:49:09.157 --> 00:49:09.936
That's awesome.

00:49:10.407 --> 00:49:12.567
And, yeah, I appreciate you coming on, Judy.

00:49:12.567 --> 00:49:13.277
This was awesome.

00:49:13.626 --> 00:49:14.286
Thanks, John.

00:49:14.306 --> 00:49:14.827
I had a blast.

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Same here.
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Judy Wilkins Smith

World-renowned Systemic Work and Constellations Expert, Author, Fortune 500 Executive Coach, and Motivational Speaker

Judy Wilkins-Smith is a highly regarded organizational, individual, and family patterns expert. A systemic executive coach, trainer, facilitator, thought partner, and leadership conference and motivational speaker, she has 18 years of expertise in assisting high-performance individuals, Fortune 500 executives, and legacy families to end limiting cycles and reframe challenges into lasting breakthroughs and peak performance.
Passionate about visionary leadership and positive, accelerated, global change, Judy explores critical dynamics in personal and organizational systems and the points at which they intersect, to create growth and success. As the Founder of System Dynamics for Individuals and Organizations, she collaborates with individuals and corporate decision-makers to implement innovative, ‘whole system’ design elements, ensuring balance, appetite for excellence, passion, and sustained success.
She is the author of Decoding Your Emotional Blueprint: A Powerful Guide to Transformation Through Disentangling Multigenerational Patterns (Sounds True).