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This is the same thing that's going to happen by 2025.
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Every single person you know will be using crypto by 2025.
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Whether they like it, whether they want to, whether they even know about it or not, they will using it.
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So this is not something that is up in the air and might happen.
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This is already happening November, it starts.
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What's up everybody?
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We have some friends here.
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This is actually the first time I had, uh, three of us on here, including myself.
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Obviously I can count So you know, welcome to the New H Human Podcast, where we have deep conversations about life.
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We question the norm, all with the intent to prepare us and everybody for the new age.
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So with us right now, we have Steven O'Connell, we have James Garfield.
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Uh, I've known Steven for a little.
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Uh, he's got 16 years in technology and relating with people, so he's really good with taking complex, uh, just, uh, what do you call it, complex ideas and then simplifying so that they can just be more digestible.
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He helped me with that cuz if anybody knows me, I, I do that.
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I, I get too complicated and Steve knows.
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And then we have, and we have James and he's actually really good with crypto.
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I haven't met James yet.
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I think James up, We're gonna bring you back on James.
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Boom.
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Let's see.
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Here we go.
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James good.
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We're good.
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I was like, let me uh, introduce James up there.
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Where to go?
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All right, he's back.
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Um, so yeah, so James, you got a history with crypto even I think I heard that you quit your job.
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So I'm gonna just shut up right now.
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I wanna know how you guys met because you guys teamed up and you're doing some pretty cool stuff.
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So the floors, yours, guys.
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How'd you guys meet?
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You know, how did it all begin?
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Well, for the technology field.
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Um, I've been in sales phones for a long time, um, helping people understand that.
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And that, uh, translated into other technology fields.
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I've built my own computers, um, basically a, a.
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A tech nerd of every kind I can be.
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Uh, so, uh, working with Samsung, I, uh, was introduced to James as a manager at a T-Mobile store, and we hit it off and started talking about technology and, and crypto.
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And how long have, were you, uh, in technology, James?
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I would say at least six, seven years.
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Um, I've been running, I started off running, uh, Metro, Metro PCs.
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I ran that for a good three, four years.
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And then after that I got into T-Mobile, worked my way up and I've been managing T-Mobile for about two years before I actually quit.
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So I would say, but then again too as a kid, cuz I heard you.
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was.
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I heard you say you built a computer.
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I did the same thing in like the ninth grade.
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So like, I always been a tech junkie too.
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You know, growing up as a kid, I always wanted to stay on top of, like the ga, the latest, uh, game system, game council, computers.
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My mom always came to me for anything that went wrong to computer.
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So I always been kind of a tech junkie.
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Just never been like a actual nerd when it comes to technology.
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Hey, it's okay to be nerds,
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it is, there's nothing wrong with being a
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it is.
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That's what I am
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That's funny.
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So I met James at, uh, T-Mobile.
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He was managing a store and we just hit it off talking about crypto.
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Um, and once we started collaborating, we both started making a, a good amount of money.
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Uh, James made enough to leave his job at T-Mobile, and that was last year, I believe.
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And then this year I left my job at Samsung for the same.
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Right.
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So I was able to leave my job with Samsung, um, just doing crypto full time, which is.
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awesome.
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Awesome thing to do.
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Uh, I'd be passionate about something and be able to help people with your passion.
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Uh, that's one of, you know, one of the things I liked most is, is helping people.
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I wouldn't have been in retail if I didn't like people, cuz you deal with a lot of different personalities in retail.
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So being able to do that and relate it and make them understand technology, uh, gave me, uh, an edge when it came to starting this crypto business.
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Got it.
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Um, so why crypto?
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There's, uh, you know, you go on YouTube or you go anywheres and everybody's saying, Oh, I, I make x, y, Z a month because I'm doing, and then just the list goes on.
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Why crypto,
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Well, crypto is the future, so everything in your life has already gone digital.
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So if you look at anything from.
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10, 15 years ago to now, it has a computer chip in it, whether it be, um, your tv, obviously your phones, uh, your radio is now digital.
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Your refrigerator is now digital.
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Your digital answer is digital.
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Cars are digital.
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Everything in your life is going digital.
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So why would money not go digital?
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We kind of have it now, but it's more of an analog, um, with a digital band.
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Is what I like to call it.
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Uh, because it's not really digital.
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You're still waiting three days to transfer money.
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They still have, uh, the old iso uh, 1 52 2 protocol for messaging, uh, to send money to different places.
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That's why I take so long to do it.
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They're using the SWIFT system.
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It's analog.
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Okay.
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What I see is the future is everything going digital.
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There's not one thing that's not gonna go digital.
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Your sneakers are gonna have a microchip in it.
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So that being said, why not get ahead of that curve when it comes to the money aspect Now, In crypto or in technology in general.
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The last thing to go digital is gonna be the RO most robust system.
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The most robust system is the financial system, so it literally has to be the last thing to go digital in order to make everything work.
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Everything else has to go digital before the financial system.
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So that's what we're working on right now.
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Everything in the blockchain you have, uh, V chain, which, uh, is a really cool crypto.
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Now what that does is that tracks.
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Uh, everything.
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So if you have a pharmaceutical drug and you have it at point A and you're, you're taking the pill at point Z, everything in the middle of there is going to be recorded on a blockchain, which cannot be.
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Fabricate it so you can't change anything.
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So you'll know where your, uh, pill was manufactured.
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You'll know where they got the, uh, ingredients for the pill that you'll know how long it was sitting in the warehouse.
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You'll know how long it was sitting on the shelf.
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All that's gonna be in the blockchain, and you'll be able to scan it and nobody can fake it.
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So these are, these are little steps of, of things that the technology and the digital age.
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Is going to make better for everybody.
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So you're not gonna get bad pills.
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Imagine we just talking about in the, um, uh, pharmaceuticals.
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But imagine using that same thing for Louis Viton or Gucci.
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You know, your Nike sneakers could never be faked again.
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You know, those big companies are gonna love this technology and why not get it when it's 4 cents, when you know it's gonna be in, you know, the hundreds of dollars in five.
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And
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That's actually, uh, that's nuts.
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Go ahead.
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Go ahead man.
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So that's why, that's why I like what I do in crypto, specifically because of the security, um, and the future.
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Like, that's, that's what everything is gonna go to, whether we like it or not.
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I, I, I have to ride the wave.
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I, I, if I stand in front of the wave, it's just gonna take me out.
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I can either ride it or get taken out by it.
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So I try to look for the future to see what's going on, and I wanna ride this wave higher and I want to bring as many people as I can with me.
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This is, this is like catching Amazon when it was only books.
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This is like catching Amazon when he was in the office just selling books, sleeping on his cot in his office.
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This is what crypto is right now.
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And I try to get everybody understand this is the very early stages in crypto.
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Um, what is worth now is not even a percentage of what is gonna be worth in the.
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So, you know, I try to tell people they make cryptocurrency for everyday life things that goes on, you know, especially like, he ain't even speak on the metaverse.
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The metaverse is huge.
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You know, you got a lot of people that live lives that they don't wanna live.
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They can just, they can live a different, totally different life inside of the metaverse and.
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You know, you might be a bum outside the metaverse, but in the metaverse you might actually be one of the top, you know, guys like one of the wealthiest people in the metaverse, or like a popular person in the metaverse, you could actually reinvent yourself in the metaverse.
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So, you know, like you're saying, he is just talking like more so utility side.
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You have the metaverse side to where you could actually go live a different life than actually what you live now.
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Like I have a, a family member, he.
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During the basketball season, he was front row court seats on the side watching the game.
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Like he felt like he was really there even though he really wasn't there.
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Like he, you couldn't tell him he was not there.
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Court side sitting down in the chair.
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So like, just things like that, like it's really gonna change the world.
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And it is huge.
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It's huge.
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It's not so many people that really understand what the metaverse is gonna be.
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Web three, it is gonna be huge.
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You guys, you could, I could tell you guys are extremely passionate cuz you're like, you, you just went for it.
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You know?
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And, and I can tell just by your enthusiasm that Yeah.
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And I know myself, but yeah, it's, it's gonna take over.
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It's, it's gonna change everything.
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I'm thinking about those people that, let's say someone is just trying to get into crypto and they're extremely new to the concept.
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They, they just know that it's, they think it's a crypto currency and they think that's all it is.
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And you guys went into utility and, and James, uh, quickly went into, or briefly went into the metaverse.
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So if we were to go back and just maybe in a couple words, I know it's probably impossible, but in a couple words, What is crypto and maybe some layman's terms for somebody.
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So crypto is just gonna be, um, uh, making everything on the digital platform, but cryptography is the way that you make everything digital.
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So in order for you to have something digital, you just need zeros and ones in order for you to have something digital and secure you.
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Cryptography, cryptography, and the blockchain is what makes your digital presence secure.
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Before it's not, it wasn't secure before blockchain.
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That's why money never moved on the internet the way it does with, um, Bitcoin because of the security Now that.
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Cryptography and blockchain.
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That's what's gonna make it so that you can not only send information over the web, but you'll be able to send anything over the web, whether it has monetary value.
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Um, Or any other intrinsic value, even, you know, digital art, that's where you get NFTs from.
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So there's going to be, that's what Web three is, is going from just sending information to being able to send information and utility money.
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You know, things that are gonna go on in the metaverse.
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There's a lot more that you're gonna be able to send with web three that you could send with web.
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And that's what a lot of people are like.
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What's web three?
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What's web three?
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Web three is the same thing as crypto cryptography or blockchain is.
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It's the secure movement of information over the web
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Makes sense.
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So that's the shortest answer I could give.
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I could give a much, much longer answer.
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To break it down into the simplest terms, that that was the, the only, the, the best way I found to to, to state.
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No.
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know, it's interesting.
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Um, I remember talking to my mom and, uh, she's like, I don't get it.
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I, I can't hold it in my hand and if I can't hold it in my hand, I don't trust it.
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Now you guys are saying it's secure, um, and it's more secure of a way to communicate and manage things than in the past with what you're saying with is Web 2.0 and, but we went from using cash to now using our cards all the time, and you guys know there's constant amount of.
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Theft and identity and fraud.
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Um, so
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That's cause it's web two and not web three.
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exactly.
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And, um, I tried explain this for her and you know, I just, you know, she just, I tried to explain the, it's, it's, it's web 2.0 to three and she's like, What's Web two
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Hey, I, I,
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so how about this, Um, we're we're talking about what?
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Yeah, go ahead James.
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Oh no, I'm saying cause you
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What were you gonna.
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I just like to ask people, cuz you know, people love to keep their money in the banks and, you know, I, what I like to say to'em is, what money are you making off your money inside the bank?
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You're not making any money letting your money sit there inside the
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What, like 1%
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Not, Not even, Not even.
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It's like
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They are, they're
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We, we are not, So what I like to tell people is, would you like to loan your money to somebody, or not even loan?
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Would you like to put your money into a place to where only they make money off your money and you're, you're just losing value on your.
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Or would you like to put your money somewhere to where you and the person holding your money are making a good percentage of interest on your dollar?
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So, you know, that's why I like to explain to people, cuz you know, you say that she says she don't like to have anything where she can't hold in her hand.
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Leaving your bank money in the bank.
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You're not holding your money in your hand.
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If that bank closes down, what are you gonna do if they don't have the money on hold for you?
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What are you gonna.
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So, you know, that's, that's one thing I like to explain to people too, when it comes to like, not being able to physically hold it.
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You can't physically hold your money in the bank also.
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So, like the bank does what they wanna do with your money.
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It's not technically your money when it's in their hands.
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So that's one thing about crypto we can, like, I have, uh, a ledger and literally my, my, my crypto is on here.
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Nobody can access this button.
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So, you know, that's one thing I like to explain to people.
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You know, when you leave your money in the bank, you know it, it is, it's your money, but it's technically not your money.
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It's just like leaving the money on a crypto exchange.
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You know?
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It is, it is technically safe there, but it's really not your money because it's on their platform.
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They can do what they wanna do with the money.
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If the platform shuts down, you know, it's like a bank shutting down.
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There's no different.
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So, yeah.
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that's
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in Celsius and that's what happened with Tara Luna.
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So I like the, That's one thing I like to explain to people that fully don't understand.
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Like we can really self custody our money and hold it and do what we want to do and control our own money when it comes to cryptocurrency.
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Sorry, I just had to go on a rent.
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no.
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Yeah, man, it, it's, it's, it's a huge world and that's very much a part of it, right?
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Um, you started to talk about Ledger just in case somebody doesn't know what a ledger was, cuz I didn't know.
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Um,
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to that, Hold on.
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Before you get
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Go?
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Sure, sure.
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Yeah.
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go to the same point for your mom.
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And this is what I try to tell a lot of people, um, that have that same aspect of tangibility.
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Um, can you, can you hold the air that you're breathing right now?