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June 27, 2023

Post-Traumatic Growth: How to Recover and Find Purpose After a Global Crisis

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Today, we have the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Ursula Lentine, who has extensive experience in helping people overcome trauma and find healing.

In this episode, we cover a variety of topics related to post-traumatic growth, including the importance of being aware of your emotions, spending time in nature, and being kind to yourself and others. We also discuss specific techniques like meditation and Internal Family Systems therapy that can help you work through trauma and find purpose.

Here are some key takeaways from our discussion:

  • Understand that you are not alone in your struggle and that you are going through a process of grief and loss.
  • Spend time in nature and be aware of the benefits of grounding and connecting with the earth.
  • Focus on being kind to yourself and others, and recognize that everyone is going through their own process of healing.
  • Consider techniques like meditation and Internal Family Systems therapy to help you work through trauma and find purpose.

If you want to learn more about Dr. Ursula Lentine and her work, you can visit her website at ursulalentine.com.

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Chapters

02:20 - The confusion surrounding the pandemic and the effects of trauma

05:00 - Waking up from post-lockdown trauma and identifying barriers to moving forward

08:00 - Identifying and working through trauma, specifically related to the death of a loved one

22:00 - Benefits of spending time in nature

36:09 - Importance of being surrounded by evolved people

Transcript
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So how I'm saying what's happening right now is we're thawing.

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We're all thawing out.

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Like what the heck just happened?

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And now we're like, is it, is it safe?

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No.

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Is it safe?

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And then like you said, the people who are still watching the news are like, it's not safe now it's, it's not safe now.

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It's not safe now.

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And then people like us who are like, this is a sick game.

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Like this

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Yeah.

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stop.

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Like, we need to do something about this.

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welcome to the New Age Human and podcast.

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I'm your host, Jon Astacio, and well, it's 2023 and not too long ago we experienced a major global lockdown event.

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So now what if you have been feeling at stress lately?

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This episode is for you.

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So today we welcome back to the show, Dr.

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Ursula Lentini, and if you haven't heard her in the past, well I'll bring you up to speech.

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She is a doctorate of Consciousness Studies, subconscious specialist and certified product healing instructor and healer, so stick around for the whole episode because we do mention understanding post lockdown trauma, what to do when you're stuck in that, and tools of recovery.

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Prevention.

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So before we begin, I want to give you a reminder that you can always join our Telegram channel, where we discuss topics, mention it in the show, and more importantly, sharing what topics are most interesting to you.

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I appreciate you and thank you for joining us today.

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Let's go.

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All right, so we wanted to talk about how to wake up from No, no, no.

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What we wanted to talk about is we went through a post apocalyptic like situation where we're all locked down.

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The world's shut down, and I feel like, you know, from our conversation before, people are, are, are stressed out and they still think they're locked down.

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Right?

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There's a lot going on.

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So you said post and I'm like, it's post.

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Post.

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Right?

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Because we're posting after the post, like we're like, oh, we went through a global crisis, John.

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And no one's really saying that anymore.

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Like, they're like, oh, things are better.

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You don't have to wear a mask anymore.

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And we're like, excuse me, what just happened?

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A lot of crazy stuff happened.

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People got yelled at, uh, you couldn't go places.

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You had to do certain things that you might not want to do.

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Um, and it's like,

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people we love

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Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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that didn't have to.

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And then all of a sudden, like, okay, so you know, following statistics, right?

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And following reality and f and looking for evidence and knowing something's off, and then going, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

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So the stuff that you and I studied before all of this and we're like, oh my God, it's coming.

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Yeah.

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And then our, our relatives who are like, you know, please don't bring any of that up at Thanksgiving.

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Okay.

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You know what I mean?

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And then we're like, okay, okay.

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You don't understand.

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And then, so here we are, like la la la and they're like, do you know what happened?

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Yeah, it's, it's, well, it's, it's also, uh, you have different sides of the fence reacting differently, and then you have different types of people reacting differently.

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Where, where, yeah, like you have that, that type of person where, um, they tied, they tend to just put it deep down inside and, and pretend like nothing happened and we just want to go back to normal.

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There's nothing normal.

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About what's going on even now and then, uh, it's almost like more, well, it's almost more people woke up to things that need to change and it, and it was a, a, a period of self-reflection on a individual level and on a global level.

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And, um, we're, we're, we're seeing the effects of that now.

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So I feel like more people are awake to like, okay, so now what?

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Because, um, I would like it to be different.

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I like, I would like to move on, but it's almost we're, I, I also feel like some of us are still stuck in that, um, I, I still see, I still see people driving around with a mask on, and I know that's not good for your health.

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I know that for, for a fact.

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there's no one in the backseat and they're not an Uber driver, look, the funniest thing I was, I was on a long ride and you know, you're just kinda like in the zone when you're on a long, and I looked over and there was a man and he had the, his mask on his chin and he was smoking a cigarette.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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it's not working.

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yeah, yeah.

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You're doing it wrong.

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yeah, something, something, something's not right.

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That picture over there.

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then I tried to get a picture, but traffic wasn't working that way.

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Uh,

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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so hard.

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Um, but it, this, because I do trauma work, right?

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So I understand of trauma and the way we're behaving is like, is after a trauma and the way people were behaving during the trauma, the pandemic.

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Is that way.

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So say something, say there was a car accident, now your body's injured.

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That's a, that's a thing you can point to.

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You can have a date, you can have a corner that had happened on and all of that stuff.

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But this one was a long, stretched out one and everybody was in it at the same time.

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And, and a piece of it, like the frosting on top of it was confusion.

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Hmm.

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So everybody was in a state of confusion.

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So, And if you wanna disarm somebody, confuse them.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, yeah, because they don't know what to do next.

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And wouldn't you say No, I'm sorry.

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Go ahead.

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them stuck.

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Right?

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So if you have power and you have clarity, and you're the one who confused them, guess who's winning that game?

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So,

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's like, uh, I think that's a fighting move too, where you just, you clap their ears and that's where people, uh, that's what people use to just stabilize their, their center of gravity and you just go B and then they're just lost.

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And it's one of those, I I, I remember that being a fighting move and I think, uh, it's, it's almost, it's pretty much very similar, but now it's like cognitive instead of physical.

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And you're not the only one.

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So if you can say, I was in the car accident, this thing happened to me.

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Everybody else doesn't understand, you know, there's something to be different about.

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But here we were all in the same soup.

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You know, it's like the saying it's not true, but the about the frog.

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How do you cook a frog?

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You know, and it's on a low temp, right?

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So the water's just getting hotter and hotter and hotter, and then the frog's like, ugh.

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But that's not how they do it really, if you're gonna kill a frog.

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But, um, It's the idea, right?

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So I think we were all in that boiling water, that simmering water together, and we're like, oh, it's a little hot in here, isn't it?

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Yeah.

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Like, don't you wanna get out?

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Yeah.

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Where's the ladder?

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I don't know.

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You know, we're all so that, so we're just like, okay, well, we'll just hang out together and everything will be fine.

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But we didn't know how it happened.

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We didn't know who was in charge.

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We didn't the, the information kept getting confusing.

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People were losing their jobs.

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People were left to stay at home.

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So it was like we were all prisoners, but we got to stay home and drink our coffee and play on the internet.

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You know, like

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Yeah.

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been, we've been systematically for decades made to be complacent and compliance.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And it's sped up a lot of, uh, the process of allowing us to live that way remotely.

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And, um, some people use it for the better where you're, you have these, um, what do you call it?

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The, um, online or, uh, what do you call it, where somebody, it's at the tip of my tongue where somebody, uh, Everything.

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You work online, so you're remote and you get, but it, it, yeah, remote person, but you can, you know, you can travel.

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I see more people traveling for vacation now, now, now that they're allowed to travel and now they're working.

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So it's like almost like some good came out of, um, the technology side, but at the same time, um, It's almost like that good is starting to help people forget all the bad.

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So my question to you is, you, you specialize in just identifying the trauma and helping people work through that.

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So you definitely have a different lens and you got a a good feel for that right now in this conversation.

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But, uh, let's go a little bit deeper into that.

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Uh, let's say somebody might identify as, you know what, I didn't let go of that.

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Or you still like, like how do we know if you didn't let go when you thought you let go?

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I think that would be a good question.

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Yeah, so in trauma, say, say, um, the death of a loved one, cuz a lot of us have experienced that.

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So say that.

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So there's this pre, you know, one of the versions is there's this pre thing where there's a sickness and it's developing the doctors and oh my goodness.

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And you know, let's get treatment and oh, this is threatening and we have to make the right decision.

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So there's a lot of stress up there.

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And then it's the week off.

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The doctors are like, look, the signs are showing, the body's not gonna, you know, it's going down.

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And then they're sleeping and they're in and out and their lips change and all kinds of things are happening.

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And you're like, oh my God.

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Oh my God, oh my god, God, it's happening.

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And you're just, every breath and you're just, and then, uh, they actually pass.

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And then there's this whole series of after, okay, we have to do the funeral, we have to tell everybody like, what are we gonna do?

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Like, so there's all this like chaos afterward.

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Then there's this really long, weird, uncomfortable, horrible time period where we're mourning and we're like, oh my God, my person's gone.

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How did that happen?

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Was is it real?

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Like, I'm so sad.

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are now globally in that last period.

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Everything's okay.

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Back to normal.

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Everyone, you're like, no, my person's gone.

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Mm-hmm.

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normal.

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The peace of my heart is missing.

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There is no normal.

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How come everyone's walking around like everything's fine.

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Everythings not fine.

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My person is gone.

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So just like that scenario, we're going People who lost their job, right?

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People.

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So a lot of people identify who they are with their position in life.

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Mm.

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So if that has gone away, then they're like, oh, I'm no more of this person who, I was really good, I was really good at that thing that I did.

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you know, um, finances got cut, but you know, or people had to work from home.

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And then they realized like, I don't really like you anymore.

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Right.

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And then they got

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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of people got divorced.

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A lot of people separated.

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A lot of people.

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Couldn't afford to get divorced.

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they were like, I just stay away from me.

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So, yeah.

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in the basement, someone's living upstairs.

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You know, it's just like, what is going on?

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So lots of changes happen, but during the change, there's too much going on for us to emotionally process and catch up to what's happening.

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So even though we're like functioning like robots, right?

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Because we're just running the patterns, like the little mice in the, in the maze.

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You know, we're just running the patterns.

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But something inside is not correct, not the same.

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know, we've lost, we've gone through lots of losses.

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We lost a lot of our liberty and our right to choose right, our right to be in public without a mask.

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Our right to travel, our right to hug people.

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Yeah.

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shopping in certain stores.

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They were like, you're not coming in with nothing.

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And we're like, I'm just, I'm a consumer.

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You, you don't want me in here.

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Right.

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the kids.

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oh no, don't even get me started.

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Okay.

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I would go up to families that are different than my culture and I would speak my broken Spanish and I'd say no.

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No necessary, no.

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And they're looking at me like, why is this white woman talking to me?

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And I'm like, please, please.

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And they're like, Hmm, that kind of makes sense.

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You know?

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And then they'd talk and I'd leave and I was like, oh, I hope, I hope,

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Right.

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trying to, everybody's trying to follow the rules, but

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Mm-hmm.

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what I understand.

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Like, so don't hurt the children, please.

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They don't, they're not the, they're not, they didn't have anything to do with this virus.

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Mm-hmm.

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And, and it's, and, uh, it does.

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Seemed like as that slowly dissipated, right?

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The lockdowns and then you get your freedoms back.

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It's, it's like hard to even say those words.

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And now there's just more stuff, um, where I can only imagine what it's like to, I don't watch the news like that.

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I have my own personal ways to find out information and that's vetted and whatnot.

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Um, I can only imagine the people that are still trying and just clawing at whatever type of, um, uh, normalcy that they can find, and being bombarded by nonstop fear porn I call it, where it's just, this is happening.

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What are you gonna do that just happened?

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What are you gonna do?

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What are your thoughts on this?

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This person made the decision, this is happening, the, the economy, blah, blah, blah.

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And so it's almost like, uh, I I Do you think people are.

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Starting to get numb

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Yes.

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point, like,

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not starting right.

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this death scenario.

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When the crisis is happening, a part of them has to go numb because they have to talk to the doctors, they have to make family decisions, they have to make accommodations.

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Somebody has to quit their job and come stay because no one can take care of, and all of that, like, the

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hmm.

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thing gets disrupted.

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So you can't like, oh my God, my mom's, there's no time for that.

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Like, come on.

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Yeah.

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so that, that, oh my God.

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Part doesn't get to go until the end, you know, after the funeral and all the chaos and the papers and everything like that.

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That's the real bereavement process.

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All of this stuff was other, you know, chaos.

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So, numb, numb, numb, numb.

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So how I'm saying what's happening right now is we're thawing.

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We're all thawing out.

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Like what the heck just happened?

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Right.

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Self-reflection.

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numb.

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And now we're like, is it, is it safe?

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No.

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Is it safe?

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And then like you said, the people who are still watching the news are like, it's not safe now It's, it's not safe now.

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It's not safe now.

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And then people like us who are like, this is a sick game.

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Like this

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Yeah.

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stop.

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Like, we need to do something about this.

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But the problem is like on the other side, when you're finally like, getting it all together and like thawing out and, and your emotions are coming back online.

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But it's not okay.

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Right?

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Like whatever's happening is not over.

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The person's gone or the job is gone or the divorce happened or whatever.

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And then we're like, oh, cuz we don't wanna thaw al cuz it's yy,

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No.

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I don't want, I don't want this scenario.

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I wasn't like super excited before, but like this is worse.

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But then people who are on their spiritual path, who are on the awakening, who are saying, I.

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Yeah, I don't wanna work in that stupid box and be a corporate person and, and my value is based on numbers of selling stuff and the whole program of corporations, they get, they did they do the training cuz I'm not in that world, but I'm cross cross contaminating now because those people are coming to my space.

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Mm.

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need some help here.

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And I'm like, yeah, I know.

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Please come.

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I got some answers for you.

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So, so they're the corporation.

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It's not about the product or the service.

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It is about the, um, profit.

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Yeah.

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Everything must happen for the shareholders, but, and I'm like, I, I thought it was about the product.

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And they're like, no, no, this is all share Shareholders.

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They're like, oh, no wonder no

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man.

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of problems there.

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Right.

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So the people don't wanna go back in the box.

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They don't wanna do that.

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So this, like you mentioned earlier, this has been a wonderful situation for people to say, that's not what makes me happy.

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That's not what my life is about.

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I don't need this thing, and I don't need this, and I don't need that.

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I, you know what?

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I like it more simple.

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This feels better.

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Why am I eating all this garbage?

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Look at me, 20 pounds Uhuh, just going to eat healthy food.

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Okay.

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For me, John, I see things historically, right?

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So I, I'm, I'm looking at the long timeline and then like, like that for thousands of years we had an old TV and cell phone.

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Yeah.

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So how did we live?

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We did like this.

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We communicated, we sat down and talked to each other, and then we went and we labored with the land and we gathered the food and we sang songs around the fire and we went to bed on time.

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Yeah, you went to bed when you retired, you know?

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Yeah, when the sun went out, you're like, okay, we're done.

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We, we put it in today.

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You couldn't just turn on the lights and extend your day and then mess with your whole rhythm.

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Um, I know we're, we're getting into like the now what, and I want to continue that and I think I know that you had some specific things that you wanted to share on maybe techniques or perspectives someone can get into

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I

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to

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some bad news

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Oh, okay.

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No.

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Great.

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Yay.

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so sorry.

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Um, it takes back to the timeline there, it takes three generations to forget history.

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Mm.

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So just like the TV and the, and the phone.

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Before we would hear the family stories.

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A nauseam, right?

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Like, oh my God, we're gonna hear the Mayflower story again.

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You know, our, great great-great grandfather was in Spain and this is what happened and this, and we're proud of that.

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You know, or we come from a line of shame, you know, we're the ones who're we're,

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messed up.

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hung out with the till, the Han and you know, we really have to make up for it now.

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But we don't have that, right?

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So we don't know who we are individually as a family, right?

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We don't know, oh, this is my culture, these are my foods, these are my things.

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Even when you do like 20 23andme or whatever, they tell you what foods are working for you and all of that, right?

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What kind of diet you thrive in, what your blood and all of that.

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So when we're understanding like who, where we come from, we're solid.

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We're like, this is who I am and this is my people and this is what I stand for.

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But if no one's really doing that, then you're like, well, I'll just go around with the crowd.

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Yeah.

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on purpose.

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That is all on purpose.

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So if we're all going around along with the crowd and you, and you break a family and the man doesn't have his family anymore, he, you lost his fight, what's he gotta fight for?

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You don't care.

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You don't care.

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But if you have children and a wife, he'll be like, Raw, you know,

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True.

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OK man, just hold on.

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But if you like, you know, ripped his heart out and his wife cheated on him and his kids don't like him anymore, it's like, God, just gimme a drink.

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What do you want?

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Mm.

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Right?

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You'd lost this fight.

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we are the generation this X gener, X gener, ex jenning people, you know, after the baby boomers who know the history.

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If we're sitting around going, Hmm, wonder what's gonna happen.

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We're not doing our service to the three, four generations coming in the forward because these kids don't know our kids.

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The millenniums, they're, they don't know.

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So the, my generations complaining about the millenniums, like you raised them, you're the one who didn't teach'em.

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You have to go out and go to work and make your own money and like figure it out by yourself.

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babied them and now we're judging them for why, why can't you get your act together and you know, make something with your life?

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And I don't blame them.

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They were like, you don't look happy.

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This corporate thing doesn't work.

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The banking system's failing the education system's, failing.

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The government's full of crap.

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You want me to participate in what?

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So they're like, I don't think so.

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Mm-hmm.

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don't blame'em.

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Right?

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Cause I work with you.

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And I'm like, I know, I know.

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But you have to create something.

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Because we're, we're, you know, this is our trajectory right now.

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So unless we get self like an understanding of what our, who we are, so maybe we don't have our history anymore, but really, what do you stand for?

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Just take everything else away.

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What do you believe in?

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What makes your heart sing?

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What will you fight for?

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What do you wanna stand up for?

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fair?

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What's right?

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Those are the things that will create fire inside of us.

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And then you're like, John, you'd agree with me.

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This is what I'm feeling.

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John's like, oh, yep, yep, me too.

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Me too.

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Okay, fine.

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Then it's small groups.

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Small groups.

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Small groups.

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Small groups.

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And if we can just kind of throw out the, the nonsense, right?

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The hypnosis, the like

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Yeah.

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Then a lot of these small groups are gonna get back to what we've been doing naturally, taking care of one each other, fighting for the underdog, speaking up, protecting, watching what's happening here, saying, no, no, we're not doing that.

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You know, spending time with our children so they don't have to be afraid to go to school and get by another kid, like,

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Yeah.

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ridiculous.

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When in any history has children killed children?

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Never.

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It's the, it's the, that's a sign of the sickness of our society.

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So we have to do, there's no, we have been raised in complacency, like I said, so we're like, oh, someone else will fix it.

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Mm.

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It's my turn.

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Yeah, It's us.

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That's why we're having this podcast.

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Yeah.

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Starting a conversation of how can I be more responsible about me and my family and my neighborhood, my culture, how can I stand up and how can I start saying no?

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So darkness, right?

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Because I work with darkness and light within each of us.

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I don't believe in the devil, but I do believe that there is a, a nefarious within all of us, and then especially with people who have power.

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Power corrupts if it's unmonitored, if it's unregulated, look at the priest, look at the, you know, people who get into positions of power who are not being watched very well, they can go off the deep end and no, know, the emperor wears no clothes, right?

00:23:37.928 --> 00:23:38.107
Yeah,

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like, everyone's like, okay, well we're just, he's got all the money, so we'll just follow him.

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I feel like that's what's happening right now.

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it is, that's why I'm mentioning it right.

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if we wake up and say, mm-hmm, mm-hmm I'm not buying into that, then we do.

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Because their greatest fear is we wake up and figure out who they are because they're outnumbered.

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Mm-hmm.

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can throw all the money you want to.

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People who are mad at you, they'll be like, I'm still mad at you.

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I don't need your money.

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I want, want you to step down.

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Yeah.

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what we have to do because darkness will weaken.

00:24:18.232 --> 00:24:19.792
Smart darkness, right?

00:24:19.798 --> 00:24:26.182
If you go going back to fighting, if you weaken your opponent before the fight starts, you won.

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Yeah, it's true.

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That's why those boxers are like, you ain't nothing.

00:24:34.492 --> 00:24:35.333
I'm gonna get you.

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You know, your mama.

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You know what I mean?

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And then the person inside's like, oh, oh.

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then they're.

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Hold

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Yeah.

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on.

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Lights out.

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You won.

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So it's that thing that we've been weakened.

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Weakened.

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Our society has been weakened.

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We've been, you know, lazy.

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We've been made to be lazy on purpose.

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have taken critical thinking out of the school system.

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So,

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Yeah.

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And the laziness, um, on a physical level, right?

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Like my, my challenge has always been the, um, Like you want to do something, but unknowingly you fell into a lot of bad habits and you don't know that a lot of what you're doing is draining you from attitude to your diet, to your environment, A lot of different things.

00:25:20.468 --> 00:25:23.857
And when you start to wake up to those things, you start to.

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Realize, like there's been a lot of things that are attacking my ability to serve my purpose or to move forward and excel in life.

00:25:33.863 --> 00:25:47.272
And, and there's people that are too busy trying to pay their medical bills, too busy trying to put out fires in their family that got caught up in their challenges of what society has fails for them.

00:25:47.333 --> 00:25:47.663
Right.

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And, and, and, and their inner circle.

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So it's, it's, there's a lot going on.

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There's definitely a lot going on.

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A lot.

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So what can we choose?

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We can choose food,

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Mm-hmm.

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Food and drug administration.

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They should not be one, one category.

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Like that's like, wait a minute, what does that have to do with that?

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Unless you look behind the curtain

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Two separate things.

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put the poison in the food and then give'em drugs because they poison themselves.

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Okay?

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Yeah.

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Literally.

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like if I, if I look at the bag of a bag and this, the ingredients are that long and I can't pronounce half of them.

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That's all garbage.

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was raised in Germany, so they only had like potatoes and ham and like you, it was like one food, you know?

00:26:29.932 --> 00:26:30.653
It wasn't like this.

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So she would look, she came to America and they got married and they had the kids, and then we would all go grocery, American grocery shopping and she'd looked and she's like, no, that's garbage.

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That's garbage.

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We're not getting garbage.

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That's garbage.

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And we're like, but it tastes so good.

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Yeah.

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Like no garbage.

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But she was right.

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It is garbage and it does make us sick.

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Yeah.

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And a lot of that stuff is illegal in o in other countries too.

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A lot of the food that we can pull off the shelf, And eat at ease.

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And it's affordable because it's, anyways, um, it, in other countries they're like, don't get, don't, we don't want that stuff.

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We know what you're doing.

00:27:08.813 --> 00:27:09.952
No, just, no.

00:27:09.958 --> 00:27:20.393
And then people are like, when you tell someone that, like, you know, you're eating something that's illegal in another country, but why, uh, I'm gonna let you look into that cuz I could tell you everything and you can immediately deny it.

00:27:20.393 --> 00:27:22.883
But if I piqued your interest enough, go check it out.

00:27:24.323 --> 00:27:24.653
Yeah.

00:27:24.893 --> 00:27:25.163
You know?

00:27:25.792 --> 00:27:26.032
Yeah.

00:27:26.038 --> 00:27:28.613
So it's, it's how we vote, right?

00:27:28.613 --> 00:27:33.593
That's always been the thing when we talk about society and culture and all that, we vote.

00:27:33.593 --> 00:27:38.093
So we vote with our dollar, we vote by what kind of garbage are we gonna put in our food?

00:27:38.692 --> 00:27:39.413
In our mouth.

00:27:39.742 --> 00:27:51.653
What are we consuming on, on the, um, you know, I get scrolling sometimes I go to check the calendar and then all of a sudden I'm scrolling and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:27:51.803 --> 00:27:53.242
You're just not sucked in.

00:27:53.992 --> 00:27:57.053
This is you're, look, you are wasting your life.

00:27:57.083 --> 00:28:01.343
This is not to your life value at all.

00:28:02.272 --> 00:28:02.573
Yeah.

00:28:02.873 --> 00:28:03.292
Right?

00:28:03.292 --> 00:28:07.373
And it makes us lazy and it makes us addicted, and they know exactly what they're doing.

00:28:07.823 --> 00:28:08.153
Yeah.

00:28:08.692 --> 00:28:12.593
And so, um, there's a lot of stuff pulling us back.

00:28:12.593 --> 00:28:17.873
What, what are, um, I mean, what are, what are some tools of, uh, recovery and prevention?

00:28:17.873 --> 00:28:20.063
I got my tools, but I'm curious about your tools.

00:28:20.752 --> 00:28:20.873
I

00:28:21.097 --> 00:28:22.238
nature, nature, nature,

00:28:22.553 --> 00:28:22.732
agree.

00:28:23.528 --> 00:28:32.258
We have been living in nature for thousands of years, and all you have to do is sit for 20 minutes, even if you don't wanna walk.

00:28:32.288 --> 00:28:36.008
Our bodies, our physical body was designed to move.

00:28:37.057 --> 00:28:40.417
So when we're sitting for hours, like sitting, is the new smoking?

00:28:40.718 --> 00:28:49.087
Yeah, Because if we're not moving, all kinds of things are not happening and those are pro-health things.

00:28:49.087 --> 00:28:54.788
So us sitting is anti health going for a walk.

00:28:54.817 --> 00:28:59.228
Everybody can put their shoes on and go outside and go for a walk

00:28:59.817 --> 00:29:00.107
Yeah.

00:29:01.117 --> 00:29:03.307
and specifically look at nature.

00:29:03.653 --> 00:29:09.742
When our eyes see the patterns of trees and of plants and things like that, something is happening.

00:29:09.742 --> 00:29:14.063
They call it forest bathing in, in Japan and all of that cuz they work too hard.

00:29:14.692 --> 00:29:19.313
But, um, just being in nature, there's things that are going on.

00:29:19.657 --> 00:29:26.647
That are recalibrating our frequency and we will start relaxing and start appreciating.

00:29:26.647 --> 00:29:27.938
It will help us sleep.

00:29:27.938 --> 00:29:45.248
And when we're paying attention to the, what's going on outside as far as the sun and the moon and those, those rhythms and we try to copy nature, that's, that's the thing that we can do because say we are so ignorant, we have no idea what's going on, but we know we don't feel good.

00:29:46.238 --> 00:29:47.107
Go outside.

00:29:48.038 --> 00:29:49.252
Mm-hmm.

00:29:49.403 --> 00:29:49.853
yard.

00:29:49.853 --> 00:29:50.752
Go for walks.

00:29:50.752 --> 00:29:54.323
Walk a walk is the best cure for almost anything.

00:29:54.623 --> 00:29:56.873
And if you're really upset, go for like a five

00:29:56.938 --> 00:29:57.288
right.

00:29:58.607 --> 00:29:58.958
right.

00:29:59.288 --> 00:30:00.667
Just go, just leave.

00:30:01.798 --> 00:30:04.327
I, I, I, uh, 1000% agree.

00:30:04.567 --> 00:30:05.978
That is my go-to.

00:30:06.278 --> 00:30:16.147
Um, I know that there's, um, if you, you know, on the, on the, the left brain of myself, the sciencey science side of myself wants to kind of break it down.

00:30:16.153 --> 00:30:29.117
But, um, when you're around electronics, You're getting an excess amount of positive ions and they, they, your body gets stressed from that because it's just imbalanced.

00:30:29.117 --> 00:30:32.837
And nature is full of an abundance of negative ions.

00:30:32.837 --> 00:30:35.688
And so just think of like the balance of, of the two.

00:30:35.688 --> 00:30:38.597
That's why they say go grounding and like go into the rainforest.

00:30:38.597 --> 00:30:39.708
Going to the rainforest.

00:30:39.708 --> 00:30:41.837
If you live near a rainforest, that's awesome.

00:30:42.198 --> 00:30:44.028
Um, but, you know, go into the woods.

00:30:44.268 --> 00:30:49.657
Um, Try to go barefoot so you can ground yourself, literally physically connect

00:30:49.883 --> 00:30:50.363
Within

00:30:50.407 --> 00:30:52.518
um, yes, yes.

00:30:53.063 --> 00:30:55.192
barefoot, on like healthy earth.

00:30:55.222 --> 00:31:01.823
So, you know, um, I was on the phone and the knock on that door and I'm like, listen, my health, you know, I was a young man.

00:31:01.827 --> 00:31:05.603
He stood way, way back and he goes, I'm here to help.

00:31:05.633 --> 00:31:08.242
He was so like, you know, and I'm like, what's going on?

00:31:08.303 --> 00:31:15.742
He's like, I'm just asking, you know, your neighborhood if you wanted some treatment for your yards, you know?

00:31:15.833 --> 00:31:18.518
And I said, No, I don't do chemical.

00:31:18.518 --> 00:31:22.087
And he goes, it's not chemical, it's all natural.

00:31:23.038 --> 00:31:24.218
I'm like, awesome.

00:31:25.117 --> 00:31:26.077
I'm on the phone.

00:31:26.077 --> 00:31:27.847
Put your card in the mailbox.

00:31:28.147 --> 00:31:34.688
Cuz he was like, I think every house was like, yeah, we spray our lawn with all the pesticides and we're killing the planet.

00:31:34.688 --> 00:31:35.048
You know?

00:31:35.048 --> 00:31:36.458
And he's like, I have a something.

00:31:36.458 --> 00:31:38.288
And it's all natural, you know?

00:31:38.798 --> 00:31:39.968
Which is great, you know.

00:31:40.288 --> 00:31:42.597
He's, he's, he's doing his thing.

00:31:42.748 --> 00:31:44.698
He's He's fighting a good fight,

00:31:45.008 --> 00:31:45.488
That's right.

00:31:45.958 --> 00:31:47.488
something bad with something good.

00:31:47.518 --> 00:31:50.307
And, uh, hopefully people wake up to that.

00:31:50.307 --> 00:31:54.238
And I think just, just more and more people are just becoming more aware.

00:31:54.327 --> 00:31:57.028
You know, you're, you're in that questioning everything mode.

00:31:57.032 --> 00:32:02.038
I think a lot of people are in that question, everything mode, because it, it just, yeah.

00:32:02.038 --> 00:32:02.367
Yeah.

00:32:02.803 --> 00:32:05.137
John, the brain has all the questions.

00:32:05.317 --> 00:32:07.508
The heart is where the answers are.

00:32:08.317 --> 00:32:08.738
Mm-hmm.

00:32:08.857 --> 00:32:13.417
when we can simplify and say, okay, right, right.

00:32:13.417 --> 00:32:19.028
You could go crazy listening to your brain, like how people listen to the news and their brain at the same time.

00:32:19.028 --> 00:32:23.827
Like, I'm like, no wonder we have an alcohol problem in the country drug.

00:32:24.698 --> 00:32:28.597
But if we could just sit and listen to our heart and say, heart, what do you say?

00:32:28.597 --> 00:32:29.768
What do you want from me?

00:32:30.218 --> 00:32:33.877
That would be a great question because it'll take out all of that.

00:32:33.883 --> 00:32:34.958
But if and when

00:32:36.087 --> 00:32:36.377
Yeah.

00:32:37.073 --> 00:32:40.073
And it'll just say, you know, call your mom.

00:32:41.032 --> 00:32:43.403
Like, you know, start journaling.

00:32:44.212 --> 00:32:46.792
Like get, go clean your closets.

00:32:47.393 --> 00:32:48.442
Like simplify.

00:32:49.357 --> 00:32:49.627
Yeah.

00:32:50.528 --> 00:32:53.347
And then, um, that sounds like a meditation, right?

00:32:53.347 --> 00:33:07.087
Where you sit in silence and then you, you focus on the, your, your heart or, uh, if you're not, Used to doing that, just sit in silence and just pay attention to the nothingness that starts to come up from it.

00:33:07.087 --> 00:33:14.228
And you'll, I, I've done that a couple times and, um, that's my, one of my go-to first is the let's go hiking.

00:33:14.228 --> 00:33:19.178
I'm actually going hiking today to help family overcome.

00:33:19.613 --> 00:33:20.663
Stress, literally.

00:33:20.663 --> 00:33:22.192
So I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm doing it.

00:33:22.553 --> 00:33:26.093
Um, and they love the idea and we don't care that it rained yesterday.

00:33:26.093 --> 00:33:28.163
We're gonna, we're gonna walk that muddy path.

00:33:28.163 --> 00:33:35.423
Like, let's, let's just go, you know, it's part of nature when it's, when things are wet, it just brings a different aroma too.

00:33:35.932 --> 00:33:37.373
Um, I'm Okay.

00:33:37.673 --> 00:33:38.573
Random question.

00:33:38.573 --> 00:33:40.492
Do you like the smell of wet concrete?

00:33:40.613 --> 00:33:43.133
For some reason, I like the smell of wet concrete.

00:33:43.192 --> 00:33:43.613
I I.

00:33:43.823 --> 00:33:45.472
what, what concrete smells like.

00:33:45.817 --> 00:33:55.807
It's like after it rained, it's like that, that foggy mist of like thick air and you just smell the moisture of like your neighborhood.

00:33:56.258 --> 00:34:04.208
Um, so I think it's a mixture of like the grass, a mixture of concrete, but maybe it's ozone.

00:34:04.268 --> 00:34:06.307
Maybe I'm talking about the smell of ozone.

00:34:06.557 --> 00:34:10.427
Yeah, when it after it, well, I love nature, right?

00:34:10.427 --> 00:34:12.378
So I'm out there in the rain.

00:34:12.527 --> 00:34:13.398
I don't care.

00:34:13.518 --> 00:34:15.407
It's just you go home and you take a shower,

00:34:15.547 --> 00:34:15.788
Yeah.

00:34:15.797 --> 00:34:20.177
I love the rain because the earth opens up, right?

00:34:20.177 --> 00:34:23.873
So in the morning, if you get up really early, The earth is still open.

00:34:23.878 --> 00:34:29.362
That's why I go, I go and pull all my weeds out in the morning because they're, they, they're not awake yet.

00:34:29.452 --> 00:34:33.202
Like you in the day, you try to pull the weeds and the weeds are like, Nope, I'm not going.

00:34:34.043 --> 00:34:35.963
You know, and you're like, and you snap'em.

00:34:35.967 --> 00:34:41.182
And all the roots are like, ah, you think you got no, we're just gonna double up on you.

00:34:41.182 --> 00:34:41.632
Right?

00:34:41.932 --> 00:34:49.132
So if you, if you're one with nature, you go out when the soil is open and everyone's like, oh, it's good morning.

00:34:49.137 --> 00:34:55.253
And you're like, So that's what Earth does when it's raining.

00:34:55.253 --> 00:34:58.822
Everything is open and receptive right to that.

00:34:58.822 --> 00:35:01.463
And then there's a chlorophyll, especially in the springtime.

00:35:01.762 --> 00:35:09.143
The, the leaves actually change color because they're in such a receptive mode of, of that fresh rain.

00:35:09.233 --> 00:35:09.652
Hmm.

00:35:09.652 --> 00:35:17.512
there's a lot of and it is the ions after the rain or during that really moist time where everything is just.

00:35:17.768 --> 00:35:26.527
And then the every little drop is So it looks like diamonds are coating, you know, the grass or the whatever.

00:35:26.527 --> 00:35:31.838
It's just, I love, right, a fresh rain or just after the rain.

00:35:32.288 --> 00:35:34.898
Everything is really like fresh.

00:35:35.782 --> 00:35:36.143
Hmm.

00:35:36.353 --> 00:35:43.237
That reminds me of the, uh, Movie The Matrix where the Oracle says, and then you'll feel right as rain.

00:35:43.447 --> 00:35:49.117
And I feel like you filled in that, that question I've had that I forgot that I had a question about it.

00:35:49.117 --> 00:35:50.677
I'm like, I've never hurt anybody.

00:35:51.217 --> 00:35:53.887
Ever say feeling right as rain.

00:35:53.887 --> 00:36:09.518
I'm like, that's probably a Gen Z or Boomer, uh, quote because you know, like these phrases that are tied to nature are slowly going away and now they're becoming very meta.

00:36:09.818 --> 00:36:10.237
Right.

00:36:10.268 --> 00:36:10.777
know what?

00:36:10.777 --> 00:36:15.068
I wonder if that was earlier after the drought

00:36:16.358 --> 00:36:16.688
Hmm.

00:36:17.498 --> 00:36:18.878
in the 19, what was that?

00:36:18.878 --> 00:36:20.077
Twenties, late twenties.

00:36:20.083 --> 00:36:22.688
We had a horrible drought and like famine

00:36:23.108 --> 00:36:23.797
Mm

00:36:23.858 --> 00:36:24.907
of the, there's no.

00:36:25.282 --> 00:36:31.313
So I could see somebody in that time period, you know, when it rained, they'll be like, everything's right now it's

00:36:31.478 --> 00:36:33.338
mm Yeah.

00:36:33.967 --> 00:36:38.858
And yeah, so yeah, I'm trying to not be so meta right.

00:36:38.978 --> 00:36:42.728
And it's, it's a, it's a language that's, that's coming about.

00:36:42.728 --> 00:36:45.297
So, um, I think we went over a lot of really great.

00:36:46.297 --> 00:36:50.797
Um, just situations and realizations of what's going on.

00:36:51.097 --> 00:37:06.518
Um, If we were to summarize, uh, uh, some things that you could do maybe into us, something specific someone can do right now, like, you know, it, it's the realization where we have agreement like you, you know, we are in that, that post-traumatic.

00:37:07.117 --> 00:37:15.818
Um, stress mode of the lockdowns, and we gave some, some answers to go out into nature to sit in silence.

00:37:16.027 --> 00:37:25.568
Um, do you have some type of like, um, mantra that you do, um, some, something that someone can like, pull from this and, and apply it like immediately?

00:37:26.027 --> 00:37:26.568
Yes.

00:37:26.597 --> 00:37:33.108
So just to repeat what you said over the show really is to be aware, right?

00:37:33.108 --> 00:37:39.108
Because think of the death thing and then now you're in this, this very uncomfortable time period.

00:37:39.887 --> 00:37:49.487
So if people don't know that they're recovering from a great loss from a global epidemic, you know, from something and they're like, so.

00:37:49.777 --> 00:37:51.318
So something's not right with me.

00:37:51.318 --> 00:37:52.597
Something's not right with me.

00:37:52.807 --> 00:37:53.077
Okay.

00:37:53.077 --> 00:37:54.967
Something's not right with everybody.

00:37:55.117 --> 00:37:55.597
Right?

00:37:55.838 --> 00:38:04.657
And just to understand, this is the post, you know, a pople, apocalyptic, uh, deal here.

00:38:05.077 --> 00:38:07.327
And this is us thawing out.

00:38:07.568 --> 00:38:10.987
So once we can be like, oh, this is where I'm at, right?

00:38:10.987 --> 00:38:14.257
Because it's, it feels like you're lost, basically.

00:38:15.097 --> 00:38:18.427
instead of saying, I feel like I lo I'm lost, I mean, you are lost.

00:38:18.713 --> 00:38:24.083
But now I know why I'm lost, and I'm in some kind of bereavement process.

00:38:25.222 --> 00:38:26.483
Study Kubler Ross.

00:38:26.483 --> 00:38:31.943
There's five parts of the bereavement of, you know, uh, grief and loss.

00:38:32.393 --> 00:38:35.273
And to understand like, oh, you're feeling angry.

00:38:35.273 --> 00:38:36.652
Yeah, you should be angry.

00:38:36.652 --> 00:38:38.063
It's a part of your process.

00:38:38.092 --> 00:38:40.103
Don't pretend you're not angry.

00:38:40.103 --> 00:38:41.663
Go ahead and be angry.

00:38:41.992 --> 00:38:48.802
So study those five things and understand that you're struggling to like get new bearings about that.

00:38:49.253 --> 00:38:58.853
So understanding who you are and why you are is very important and, um, trying to get one with nature, right?

00:38:58.853 --> 00:39:01.733
Go for walks, minimum, spend time out in nature.

00:39:01.733 --> 00:39:02.632
Study nature.

00:39:02.632 --> 00:39:04.012
Look at pictures of nature.

00:39:04.012 --> 00:39:05.813
Like anything nature, do that.

00:39:06.833 --> 00:39:08.572
Be responsible.

00:39:08.603 --> 00:39:10.432
Vote for yourself.

00:39:11.182 --> 00:39:17.722
what you consume, what you're eating, what you're listening to, people who are around you.

00:39:17.722 --> 00:39:22.313
If people all are afraid and negative and all of that, just, just take'em out.

00:39:22.373 --> 00:39:31.132
Just spend less and less and less time with them and listen to, you know, what's trying to be told to you from your heart.

00:39:31.163 --> 00:39:37.012
Not all the chitter chatter, but like, then I would say if one mantra is to be kind.

00:39:40.273 --> 00:39:40.873
Interesting.

00:39:40.882 --> 00:39:48.983
kind to ourselves, to be kind to our fellow, cuz we're all going through this bereavement and that, that's the behavior.

00:39:48.983 --> 00:39:52.972
Everybody grieves differently, right?

00:39:52.972 --> 00:39:59.483
So, so you can be like, oh, wasn't like a jerk because he's not okay.

00:40:00.402 --> 00:40:00.733
Yeah.

00:40:00.862 --> 00:40:02.242
He's not okay right now.

00:40:02.663 --> 00:40:03.983
So be kind to him.

00:40:04.012 --> 00:40:05.182
Be kind to yourself.

00:40:05.512 --> 00:40:06.682
Take more naps.

00:40:06.713 --> 00:40:08.393
You know, just relax.

00:40:08.393 --> 00:40:11.512
Don't go feel like you have to do everything all the time.

00:40:12.833 --> 00:40:22.643
Better sleep, more water, like the whole normal things that we're supposed to be doing that we don't do because we're too busy distracting for with ridiculousness.

00:40:24.742 --> 00:40:32.722
Yeah, well put, well put, I hope everybody listening, uh, took advantage of, of our conversation and what, um, Dr.

00:40:32.722 --> 00:40:39.773
Ursula Lenin, um, really went over with her experience with helping people with trauma.

00:40:39.773 --> 00:40:43.672
And she, you, you, you really simplified it, right?

00:40:43.733 --> 00:40:51.472
You really broke it down and, um, it's very eyeopening to, to think about how, you know, we're not alone in this.

00:40:51.802 --> 00:40:57.112
World of people having stress and we all have that now in common.

00:40:57.322 --> 00:41:00.262
We all have something in common like globally.

00:41:00.262 --> 00:41:10.733
So it's the irony of some, like a lockdown separating you from everybody and now everybody has that one thing in common.

00:41:10.793 --> 00:41:14.813
There's people I haven't spoken to in high school, right.

00:41:15.023 --> 00:41:28.643
And in college, but um, Now that you're in, in the, in the world and you see that person, you might have spoken to them like once, but because you went to the same college or whatnot, you have commonality.

00:41:28.643 --> 00:41:34.853
And I feel like now everybody has something to say about the same thing.

00:41:34.882 --> 00:41:36.503
Like every, we're all part of that group.

00:41:36.503 --> 00:41:40.913
So it's an interesting, um, Phase that we're in.

00:41:40.913 --> 00:41:43.402
So, uh, lots of good content.

00:41:43.402 --> 00:41:48.952
I, I do appreciate you coming on and, and sharing your words of wisdom on, on how we deal with this.

00:41:49.103 --> 00:41:49.523
I love it.

00:41:49.793 --> 00:41:50.123
you.

00:41:50.182 --> 00:41:50.693
Thank you.

00:41:50.693 --> 00:41:52.163
I'm glad we're on the same page.

00:41:52.163 --> 00:41:53.963
It's, it's easy to talk to

00:41:54.023 --> 00:41:54.413
right?

00:41:55.043 --> 00:41:56.844
Cause they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:57.202 --> 00:42:03.443
But we're just trying to say things that are like the common denominator of all of us.

00:42:04.682 --> 00:42:05.132
All right.

00:42:05.132 --> 00:42:09.333
So, um, thank you again Ursula, for coming onto the show.

00:42:09.632 --> 00:42:11.552
Um, what are you working on right now?

00:42:11.552 --> 00:42:16.052
Let's, if anybody's looking to connect with you, they like what you said, they vibe with what you said.

00:42:16.172 --> 00:42:17.523
How can they reach you, what you're working on?

00:42:18.543 --> 00:42:20.853
Uh, there's three invitations that I have.

00:42:21.063 --> 00:42:24.932
Uh, one is to come to the Twin Hearts meditation every Tuesday.

00:42:24.932 --> 00:42:29.672
It's online seven, uh, o'clock Eastern time.

00:42:30.693 --> 00:42:31.742
It's super easy.

00:42:31.748 --> 00:42:34.742
Bless the planet with loving and kindness, get a lot of benefits.

00:42:34.952 --> 00:42:43.893
The second one is one-on-one sessions, so I go, I do subconscious work, clearing up all of our past traumas and everything.

00:42:44.282 --> 00:42:50.043
The lineage also, because we inherit stuff from our family lineage, mother's side, father's side.

00:42:50.103 --> 00:42:50.132
Okay.

00:42:50.793 --> 00:42:52.262
Our soul is evolving.

00:42:52.262 --> 00:42:54.813
We have past life stuff that we're still running.

00:42:54.932 --> 00:42:57.782
Um, so you can clean on any of those things up.

00:42:57.782 --> 00:43:00.902
So if you, anybody who's struggling with like, I'm stuck.

00:43:00.902 --> 00:43:01.922
I don't understand.

00:43:02.193 --> 00:43:03.393
Why do I behave this way?

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I know better all of that I can clear up.

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And for people who are really, have done a lot of their personal work, I have a group class and this, this one's mind blowing because we take the individual session if you will.

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Its called Internal Family Systems, and we do it in group with evolved people.

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And the, the healing and the depth of what happens in that time is incredible.

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So there's like, you know, beginner, intermediate, advanced.

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Interesting.

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Wow.

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Yeah, I like how you, like, you're surrounded by evolved people and people are gonna be like, what does that mean?

00:43:46.773 --> 00:43:51.163
But like, you've gone over you, you've gone, you found your solutions, right?

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right?

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You've cleared a lot.

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You have a lot of self energy.

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You know how to stop the chatter in your head.

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If something happens, you can self-regulate away and, and then you have a really grounded sense of clarity about who you are.

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And how you move in the world and how you respond to life events.

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So if you're at that place where you're like, I'm solid, but there's still room for me to grow and I can't find my next teacher, and so on.

00:44:21.557 --> 00:44:23.898
So I'm leading the group.

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I'm not, I'm, and I'm also breaking it down, right?

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I'm simplifying the way, you know how I do.

00:44:29.768 --> 00:44:32.418
then we, uh, we just go in.

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know, gun guns blazing of course.

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But it's all love bombs.

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Right.

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You know, but we go in and do the work.

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Awesome.

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All right.

00:44:43.202 --> 00:44:45.992
And, um, uh, did you, did you say the website?

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Where, where can we, how can we find you?

00:44:48.443 --> 00:44:52.818
media is my first and last name.com, you know, at Gmail, like,

00:44:53.492 --> 00:44:54.242
Okay, perfect.

00:44:54.273 --> 00:44:55.563
And that's gonna be in the show notes too.

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So if like, spelling is an issue, don't worry about it.

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It's in there.

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Just kind of scroll down after this.

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You're good.

00:45:00.632 --> 00:45:02.402
Um, as, as a, as a listener,

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Ursula Tini.

00:45:04.643 --> 00:45:05.507
Let me spell it out.

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U R S U L A L E N T I N E.

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Perfect.

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I love your energy, I love vibe with you.

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Thanks for coming on the show.

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Thank you so much.

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I really believe and appreciate what you're doing in the world, John.
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Dr. Ursula Lentine

LICENSED MINISTER, NEW THOUGHT PRACTITIONER, SPIRITUAL ADVISOR, AND HEALER

Ursula Lentine, Doctorate of Consciousness Studies, Licensed Minister, Internal Family
Systems Subconscious Specialist. Certified Pranic Healing Instructor and healer.
Ursula has facilitated over 5,000 private sessions and worked with 1000’s in groups
since 2010. She works individually with clients to reveal and remove internally
embedded beliefs and physical conditions that have been predisposition from inherited
legacy burdens or activated by traumas and life circumstances. She has her own series
of 27 shows, The Way of the Spiritual Path. She has created and offered several online
classes and courses. See over 200 videos on her YouTube channel regarding spiritual
practices and metaphysical understandings. Ursula has taught Level 1 Pranic Healing to over 270 students, including
several MD’s and has led weekly meditations since 2008.
Ursula loves helping people with the human longing for peace, clarity, and wellness as a
part of her life’s purpose. You can learn more about how she can serve you on her
website www.ursulalentine.com