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Sept. 19, 2023

Real Stories of Unearthly Experiences with hosts of The Skeptic Metaphyiscians Podcast | PART 2

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Welcome back to part two of our deep dive with the vibrant duo, Karen and Will, hosts of the Skeptical Metaphysicians podcast. In this continuation, we venture further into the enigmatic realm of metaphysics. From the mind-bending concept of reverse speech to the undeniable power of community, this episode promises a journey like no other. Ready to challenge your perceptions and explore the unknown? Let's dive in!

Key Takeaways

  • The Intrigue of Backward Messages: Will highlights the enthralling world of backward messages, mentioning an Australian researcher dedicated to this phenomenon. This individual has discovered tens of thousands of these messages, bringing attention to this remarkable subject.
  • The Power of Positive Reviews: The conversation emphasizes the importance of leaving a five-star review on Apple podcasts. Such actions are pivotal in broadening the podcast's reach and securing high-quality guests for future episodes.
  • Varied Paranormal Preferences: The discussion touches upon personal preferences in the realm of the paranormal. Jon inquires if Karen often has Will watch paranormal films like "Paranormal Activity".
  • Staying Aligned with Light and Love: Karen speaks passionately about the significance of focusing on positive energies, specifically aligning with light and love.
  • The Vibrant Energy: A moment is dedicated to the beautiful vibrating energy one can feel even during everyday activities. Focusing on this energy brings a sense of fulfillment and a tingling sensation.

Resources & Links:
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that is a real thing.

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This guy has dedicated his life in Australia.

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He's an Australian.

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He has dedicated his life to researching these backwards messages and he's found Thousands of them tens of thousands of them.

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It's not just ACDC

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records.

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It's not it's not just ACDC or KISS.

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It's actually conversations that you have people or politicians giving their inaugural addresses or just any the vocalizations of a child, all these different sounds when played backwards, he found these messages and his theory is that we're all communicating with each other in two ways.

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All right.

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Welcome to the New Age Human podcast.

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This is part two of the two part series with Will and Karen, the hosts of the Skeptical Metaphysicians podcast.

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So to give you a heads up some highlights on this part of the show on part two is we go deeper into their stories.

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We talk about the power of community and something called reverse speech, which is literally mind blowing.

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Okay.

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You think, you know, but you don't know.

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So if you want to support the show, you can join the newsletter and get sneak peeks to next week's episodes, upcoming stuff and discounts and much more, of course, staying in touch.

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You can join the telegram channel.

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If you want to join in on the conversation and Make sure you leave a five star review if you haven't on Apple podcasts so that we can get more reach and attract some really good guests in the future.

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And with that said, thank you for joining us today.

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Let's be the change.

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It's interesting to see your stories be completely different.

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And, uh, does, does Karen...

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Will, does Karen have you watch a lot of paranormal, like, movies, like, paranormal activity and stuff?

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In fact, she can't stand them.

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She can't watch them.

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Oh!

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always you know, and

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Bad acting, or?

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no, like that, like bad stuff, you know,

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Oh, Hmm.

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rarely a good, yeah, try to keep myself focused on the light and the love.

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think that's what thought it's all about.

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if you really focus on it, you can just be driving and start thinking about And literally feel your skin tingle.

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you just get so full of this beautiful vibrating energy?

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It's wonderful.

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So why not on that?

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Yeah, John, I should mention, I've been remiss not to say it before.

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you haven't noticed, Karen actually is an angel walking on this planet.

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she is the most incredible human being I've ever met in my life.

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empathy for others is second to none.

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Not just other humans, but animals, and plants, and the world, everything.

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She's just...

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It's just so much love.

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She's all about love.

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She's like a walking embodiment of love.

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Wow.

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Truly.

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And, um, I'm, I can't to this day believe that somehow she said yes to me.

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I don't understand why, because I'm, I was the walking embodiment of no, of, of the complete opposite.

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So there

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they say opposites attract, right?

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But, um,

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you have it.

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dramatic, wasn't quite as bad as that, but.

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Heheheheheh

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Well,

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the truth comes out.

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No, but she, she does, she, she brings a lot of love to the, to the world.

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And, um, she looks at life through that lens and that's a really beautiful thing because.

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We need a lot more of that right to begin with.

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But then the, the, the, other part of that is that she has a hard time with the, with the inverse.

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The, the non love, the hate,

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Uh

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that kinda stuff.

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It, it affects her, uh, in, in ways that, that are, uh, unkind, unfortunately.

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But, um, so we, we try to keep ourselves very high vibe, very positive.

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Uh, and, and I'm finding that.

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it's, the more I dive into this stuff, the more I recognize that's who we're supposed to be.

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We're supposed to be high bar.

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We're supposed to be positive.

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We're supposed to be love.

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And the more we can be in that vibrational space, the more, the better we're going to be in the long run.

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huh.

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Uh huh.

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Uh huh.

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Uh huh.

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I agree.

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I agree.

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And I like how he described you as high vibe, Very friendly very loving and that energy I'm seeing more pockets of that showing up right far a few But it's still starting to show up.

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So I think It's pretty beautiful how will put it together and described you to

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Silence.

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Silence.

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Silence.

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Silence.

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Silence.

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so my question for you that since we're going that direction

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Silence.

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Silence.

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Silence.

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How, let's say, for example, you, you, you understand that you're, you're changing, right?

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As you do this show, you're changing, um, and I'm sure you have other things that you do, other, whether it be job, business.

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How do you take the information that you're exploring and learning while doing the podcast, and how have you been using it outside the podcast, um, to improve yourself?

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I'm, just wondering how that has affected you guys.

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Silence.

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It's a stare down.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I haven't said, but

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you want to go?

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No, no, no,

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no.

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So, okay.

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So for me, again, it's kind of coming back to that love and I am realizing the more, um, I let myself really openly kind of express it, the, the better everything is not just for me, but for the people that I'm with.

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with work, you know, we've, Will has put together this incredible team.

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So we do work together.

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Um, I work also behind the camera on the producer as well, and he's put together this incredible crew, but just.

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Something about just, all have this love for each other and not only does it make work more fun, it makes the work better, you know, because we all bring each other up and bring out the best in our personalities and in our talents.

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the more you are this way, you know, I'm attracting, you know, different clients for, I have a, just started a production company recently.

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So a very special client has kind of come and we've got this connection and it's just, it just makes, it's making things easier.

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Hm.

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like it's not fighting the fight.

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It's just like welcoming.

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Everything.

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that I think for me, would be the biggest thing that I've noticed.

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Hmm.

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Wait,

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Kind of goes along the lines of surrender, right?

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The, the minute you, you just let go things then start to flow.

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Mm-hmm.

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that's been an incredible thing for me.

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Um, it, it's, it's done a lot.

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I'll, I've changed a lot.

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Uh, I've started meditating.

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I meditate every day.

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Hopefully.

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I try and meditate.

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If I don't meditate every day, everyone knows it.

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Uh, so people want me to meditate every day.

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Um, but it's, it's, it's really, it's been a life changer for me completely.

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so what happens if you don't meditate?

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Oh, I'm just, I'm just not

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like grouchy and I just have to go meditate now,

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Ha ha ha ha!

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It's very easy for me to lose my grounding.

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I, maybe because I spent so much time not being grounded that when I, now I found my ground when I, when I meditate, I get into the place where I'm at peace.

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I'm, I'm, I'm one.

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So I'm able to live my way that my life that way, to a large extent, I'm human.

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Like everybody else.

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Uh, I stumble a lot and I just have to remind myself, it's just a stumble, get back on it and go back and to re center yourself and move forward.

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And sometimes it's way harder than others to do that.

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But try to do that as much as I can.

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Meditation helps me tremendously.

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Yeah.

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But I think that yeah.

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What the biggest thing that this show has done for me is that it has

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Okay.

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shown me that are other ways of thinking that don't have anything to do with me and it's 100 percent okay for it to be that way.

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And that has stopped me from being the guy that always has to win every argument.

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That has to be right every time I have a conversation with someone.

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I've learned the act of.

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Opening myself up to all these different viewpoints and modalities, and every one of these paths is 100 percent valid for somebody.

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Alright.

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Just because it's not my path doesn't mean it's an invalid path, just the opposite.

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It's a great path for somebody out there.

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And our exploring it has allowed me to open myself up to the fact there is all these different paths.

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And it's suddenly made it possible for me to just and just be.

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And I think he's a really good example of a, I don't want to say typical or average, but he works in the

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It's

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world.

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So someone in that kind of lifestyle, so he's got all of the politics and all of that stuff constantly

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Friday

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down at work day after day after

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afternoon.

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And he used to be, I mean, he's a competitive man, but he couldn't just win.

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He had to win by a long shot.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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very sick.

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Um, that, Oh, that should

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Ooh, what is this story.

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that...

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Well, maybe it could be your story now, but anyways, he's better now.

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Okay, go

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And at the end he's going, he's, he's okay.

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now, but it's really helped him, you know, and it's someone on the outside of him seeing the changes and the peace and the way he's able to accept things and not always having to win.

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Has it, it's affected him tremendously.

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It's affected our family.

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It's, it's really been wonderful.

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Wow.

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I mean, I mean, if you want to share briefly what that was, now that we're on treat, go right ahead.

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Well, uh, about a year and a half ago, I was diagnosed with prostate cancer.

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And when you get a diagnosis like that, it, um, Not the same world.

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Yeah, it's, you're not the same.

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You're not the same.

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Uh, you are facing your own mortality in such a very direct way, it changes you.

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And for me, it, it made me spiral into, uh, a place where I, I wasn't happy.

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Excuse me.

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Um, I, I dropped into a little bit of depression.

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What?

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Um, I disconnected for a bit trying to get a handle on all of it.

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but then we did a wonderful thing and that is we opened ourselves up to, um, love.

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And, um, by the act of opening ourselves up to love and exploring the potential of just being in that love relationship, it helped me to get back on track to fight this thing.

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I didn't consciously fight it.

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I never, I didn't get surgery.

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I didn't do, uh, uh, Any medication?

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No medication.

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Any treatments?

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No, no chemicals, no radiation, nothing like that.

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that's because they were telling us to watch it and see how fast it was progressing.

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Correct.

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So it wasn't, we're just like against that stuff.

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Right, right, right, right, right.

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Yeah.

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We're clear.

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We're not anti science, not anti medicine.

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They just, we were doing what's called active surveillance.

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Wanted to see how it's going so that, um, because I'm young and going in there and removing my prostate may not be the best thing for me.

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So let's just wait and see what happens.

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see if it's going.

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And through the course of the time, you go a year before you get a second biopsy to see how it's going and to confirm the results of the first one.

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And in that year, I threw myself so hard into these conversations and everyone that we talked to that we opened up to the fact that I had this diagnosis.

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All these lightworkers offered, just incredible, all of them, all of them, offer their services to heal, to send me energy, to talk about, uh, kinetic, uh, body divinations, to all this kind of stuff, medicine, I mean, ayurvedic diets and harmonic egg, harmonic egg, uh, sessions that they gave me for free, but all these, I mean, this, the community that follows us, that the, the community that we're a part of, because it's something they follow us.

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We follow them, really.

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This community that, that we are a part of, the Skeptic Manifestations community, showed up so hardcore for us, that when I went back for my second biopsy, they found no trace of it.

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No trace.

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It was gone.

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I had to look at my results and call people over to see, are you seeing what I'm seeing?

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Because this can't be, this can't be real.

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Every single quark, and they did a very targeted which is, um, they do, uh, an MRI and a, and a sonogram and they put them together and they, and because they, they, to target the area that that's in question very precisely.

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18 cores.

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They did all 18 one after another said the nine, the nine, the nine, the nine, I couldn't believe it.

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So the doctor called me a couple of days later and said, okay, well, since, you know, thanks for your results.

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You don't have to come back.

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Cause there's always a followup.

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I said, no, no, no, no, no.

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going into that office.

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Because I want you to sit across from me, look me in the eye, and tell me that I no longer have cancer.

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And she says, okay.

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Um,

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I walked in on my appointment, she sat down on the chair across from me, she looked me in the eye, she says, You never have to worry about cancer again.

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That

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Wow.

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words that she said, and I was blown away because we didn't do anything other than allow ourselves to open up to love and the possibility that these energies Could affect change and I'm now cancer free almost a year.

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What a story.

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And the power of support

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It's incredible

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belief and love and connection.

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Wow.

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That's amazing.

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I'm so happy for you guys that That is a happy beginning, right?

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Cause you're just beginning.

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That's pretty cool.

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I mean, It's interesting.

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You, you brought up some, uh, the harmonic egg.

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I'm familiar with that.

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Um, and when you spoke to these people, how did it happen?

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Did you, in.

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An episode you just spoke about it, and then people started to reach out to you and check up on you, like, is that how it went down?

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Yes, and no sometimes Yes, we did get a lot of Outpouring of support for sure when I announced on the show.

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We got a lot of outpouring support.

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It was incredible But the majority of the times for a long time, I didn't, I didn't come out for lack of a better word for a long time because I didn't want to make it about me.

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I didn't want to, so I didn't disclose it on the show for a while, we've had, we would have conversations before we start recording or after and somehow or another in casual conversations that you would come up and they were all like, let me work on you, let me work on you, let me work on you.

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You know, afterwards they were just.

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Um, after I came out on the show, um, I got, we got lots of messages saying, Hey, sending you, uh, this energy, I'm an intuitive energy healer.

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I feel the, the owner, the harmonic, a flat out said, you're gonna be fine.

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Yep.

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She's like, it's gone.

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It's gone.

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You're gonna be fine.

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I mean, and she's also intuitive, right?

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So every, I mean it, John, I can't even express to you the emotions that course through my body.

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When I realized what had just happened, I owe, we owe so much to this community that we're a part of that I'm going to forever be in her debt.

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I will continue to do this show for as long as I can, because I am in such deep gratitude for the outpouring of love and support that we got through the ordeal.

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Wow.

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That's, that's amazing.

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I didn't mean to make you cry.

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Happy tears.

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Happy tears.

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the, the happiness, the, just the, the, the support, just not knowing that you have this incredible, so we live in Virginia, we don't have any family here and all of a sudden we had this massive family sending love.

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From all over the world,

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literally,

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Wow.

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in the States, but all over the world.

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People in Australia, people in the UK, it's incredible.

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it's just incredible.

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We're very

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blessed.

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Wow.

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I, I don't know what to say.

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I'm like, wow.

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Wow.

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Wow!

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say, yeah.

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We

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can tell you weird stuff now.

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Heh heh heh.

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Right?

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Heh heh heh.

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Oh my god.

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No, that's, that's great.

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That's, that's, I love the story.

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I love, um, that just you sharing the emotion behind it and, and just the idea of everybody coming together.

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And, and being vulnerable and no one, not very few people enjoy being vulnerable and, and authentic.

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And then when you are, it's like a good sign that we're moving in the right direction, especially if you're like, you know what, I'm going to give it a chance and you went for it.

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And then to get all that response back, especially being by yourselves in Virginia, um, that's just another level of support that you guys got, you know, feeling of, of, of that extended family.

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So that's pretty cool.

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That's really cool.

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it's also kind of like a microscopic view of what this community is capable of.

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That's

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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large handful of people can come together and cure his cancer, what could we all do if everyone just got together and just pushed out that love and that healing and those good vibrations and energy?

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Oh my god,

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Mm hmm.

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only imagine.

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Yeah, and John, earlier on you said you found pockets of these kinds of awakenings and things like that across the country, across the world.

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I think that's by design.

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I

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Mm hmm.

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separated on purpose because if there's one little gem in the middle of all this rough stuff, then that little gem can, can influence a lot in their area.

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And if all these little gems, uh, in their areas, And they, they create this network that would cover the planet in this type of support and love.

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It would change our And in fact, it's a theory of mind that that is what 5d, that the whole ascension is about.

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It's about reaching across this network and bringing us all up in vibrations So that we evolve into what we are supposed to be on the next phase of our lives.

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Now, I think I think about that stuff,

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Yeah.

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I...

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It blows my mind.

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I, I, and part of the stuff that happens in my meditations, I get messages all the time now and I've got to write them down.

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I got to, I got to talk them out in my phone.

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I put them in my show sometimes because it's such an important, and I don't know if these messages are real or not, but

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Yeah.

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they resonate so hardcore with me that I've got to share them and yeah.

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I would urge and encourage and, in fact, implore anyone who's feeling this kind of thing, be afraid of it.

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Put it out there.

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The more you can be open with the love and the support and the, and the high vibe stuff, no matter what happens, the more

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I've got, uh, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14,

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doing it together.

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So let's do it together.

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No, I'm a thousand percent on the same page with you and I totally Agree.

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And I see like those examples where people meditate, you have 7, 000, just several thousands of people having like one focus and they've done that and they've tested it.

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And I forgot what it's called, but you there, there was a time where I think it was 7, 000 people just meditated on world peace.

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And that was a time where There is a dramatic drop in a lot of crime and just bad activity across the globe.

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And ever since then, there's a higher belief in the power of collective, uh, I guess unification of just intent and just getting it done.

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And anybody that I would start listening to sometimes they would end it with a meditation or people would schedule events, meditational events, right?

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So, there's definitely...

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More of that I see happening coming in the future for sure And I would totally be down to collaborate on anything in That realm so that we especially if we think something's gonna happen and we want to get ahead of it hey, you know what, let's do a whatever you want to call it a a Mass meditation or a mass focus for like that week or something like that.

00:21:41.554 --> 00:21:49.003
Just concentrate it So I'm totally down to To align with that and expand on that and and explore that with you guys.

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So I think that's awesome.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, the power of intention is very powerful.

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Mm hmm.

00:21:54.114 --> 00:22:03.034
Yeah Well, we've been chatting for a little bit and we had some amazing stories That we've shared so i'm excited Extremely excited to share.

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Um As we come down to a close and dry our eyes, is there anything that you guys Wanted to share that popped up in the back of your head that we have it that I haven't asked you about Before we kind of slow things down and come to an end

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Before we start.

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I'm sorry.

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Good, me.

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I'm like jumping in.

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Hey.

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Yes, I love it.

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I never do this.

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Um, but before we started recording, we were talking about just the.

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Maybe different or interesting changes that we've seen or, or I don't know, in ourselves.

00:22:37.837 --> 00:22:50.377
And I would say one, I don't know if it's like the weirdest thing, but you don't, you you're changing until something hits you and you're like, Oh, damn, that's totally a different reaction than I would have expected myself to have.

00:22:51.218 --> 00:23:03.188
had that, um, I think it was maybe, was it last year, we interviewed a man who has a relationship with a family of feet, big foots.

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Big Sasquatches, plural of

00:23:06.604 --> 00:23:07.034
Okay,

00:23:07.067 --> 00:23:07.698
fa, a group of them.

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Yetis Yeti.

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No.

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'cause the Yetis are in the cold.

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That's true.

00:23:10.548 --> 00:23:10.667
That's true.

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These were like in the woods.

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That's true.

00:23:12.523 --> 00:23:14.273
says squatches is

00:23:15.067 --> 00:23:21.367
Sasquatch tie, um, so prior to this interview, he sent us a tape of.

00:23:22.028 --> 00:23:25.417
Um, some actual recordings of, of their voices.

00:23:26.218 --> 00:23:29.357
And so we're playing this tape and, uh, or not tape.

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I'm really old.

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We're playing this recording.

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We put the phonograph on and you hear this like, ah, like all these sounds and we're like, there's no way.

00:23:42.742 --> 00:23:44.972
There's no way this

00:23:45.123 --> 00:23:47.012
is the dude drinking in the corner going,

00:23:49.742 --> 00:23:51.133
how are we going to keep a straight face?

00:23:51.192 --> 00:23:53.333
You know, like, Oh man, this is going to be tough.

00:23:54.073 --> 00:24:00.103
So we start the interview with him and we're like, listening to his story and he's kind of getting into this family and stuff.

00:24:00.103 --> 00:24:10.803
And then through the, this story, he, he reveals to us that it's not that it's this creature that's been hiding that no one can ever find, but that they are interdimensional beings.

00:24:12.073 --> 00:24:16.083
And so we're like, okay, I can be on board with that.

00:24:17.002 --> 00:24:17.343
at the end

00:24:17.388 --> 00:24:17.679
Hmm?

00:24:17.893 --> 00:24:30.923
you know, we finished the interview and we're like, wow, how is it that we can't believe that there's a physical creature on this earth that's hiding, but, but somehow an interdimensional being that can pop in and out and like do these games and stuff is possible.

00:24:31.252 --> 00:24:31.442
Yeah.

00:24:31.593 --> 00:24:32.242
And that we believe

00:24:32.328 --> 00:24:33.259
Totally possible.

00:24:33.603 --> 00:24:33.923
Yeah.

00:24:34.103 --> 00:24:37.593
And suddenly those, those vocalizations seemed a lot more plausible.

00:24:37.593 --> 00:24:37.853
Yeah.

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And we're like,

00:24:38.853 --> 00:24:38.863
Oh,

00:24:41.909 --> 00:24:42.719
it makes sense.

00:24:42.729 --> 00:24:43.888
It all comes together.

00:24:44.103 --> 00:24:45.032
dimensional being at it.

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But like, yeah, you're crazy.

00:24:46.163 --> 00:24:47.182
And then like, okay, yeah.

00:24:47.232 --> 00:24:48.702
Like I can get on board with that.

00:24:50.002 --> 00:24:50.282
Yeah.

00:24:50.449 --> 00:24:51.358
I've heard that before.

00:24:53.673 --> 00:24:54.002
Have you?

00:24:54.022 --> 00:24:54.813
Oh, that's cool.

00:24:54.813 --> 00:24:56.133
Cause we hadn't at the time.

00:24:56.133 --> 00:24:57.823
And it was mind blowing to us.

00:24:57.823 --> 00:24:58.603
It was just the guy.

00:24:59.113 --> 00:25:00.482
Have you heard about reverse speech?

00:25:00.483 --> 00:25:01.393
Yeah.

00:25:01.558 --> 00:25:02.898
Reverse speech?

00:25:03.252 --> 00:25:03.962
Yeah.

00:25:04.323 --> 00:25:04.913
That was a good one.

00:25:05.222 --> 00:25:05.623
Yeah.

00:25:05.939 --> 00:25:06.519
Nope.

00:25:07.159 --> 00:25:08.308
What is that?

00:25:08.368 --> 00:25:08.739
Okay.

00:25:09.482 --> 00:25:19.262
80s, uh, there was all the moms were all up in arms because they thought that when you played a record backwards, there were all these satanic messages on it and all

00:25:19.298 --> 00:25:20.028
I heard that Okay.

00:25:21.323 --> 00:25:22.682
that is a real thing.

00:25:23.077 --> 00:25:26.038
This guy has dedicated his life in Australia.

00:25:26.077 --> 00:25:26.837
He's an Australian.

00:25:26.877 --> 00:25:35.438
He has dedicated his life to researching these backwards messages and he's found Thousands of them tens of thousands of them.

00:25:36.998 --> 00:25:38.137
It's not just ACDC

00:25:38.327 --> 00:25:38.657
records.

00:25:38.748 --> 00:25:41.057
It's not it's not just ACDC or KISS.

00:25:41.137 --> 00:26:05.057
It's actually conversations that you have people or politicians giving their inaugural addresses or Um, just any the vocalizations of a child, all these different sounds when played backwards, he found these messages and his theory is that we're all communicating with each other in two ways.

00:26:05.298 --> 00:26:06.938
One is the way we're talking now, right?

00:26:07.028 --> 00:26:11.288
We're communicating this way, but then our subconscious mind also.

00:26:11.762 --> 00:26:33.442
Speak to my subconscious mind speaking to your subconscious mind by the words, the rate of speech, and the tempo in which I'm saying it to you, and sending you a message in reverse, that only your subconscious can catch, and it's all, it, every single message is revealing

00:26:33.628 --> 00:26:33.659
Okay.

00:26:33.772 --> 00:26:34.093
truth.

00:26:34.788 --> 00:26:49.788
So, example, if, uh, some politician is having an inaugural, and he, and he played some of these for us on the show, having the, this inaugural speech and saying how they're going to help humanity do this, do that, whatever.

00:26:49.837 --> 00:26:54.627
And he played the thing back and it said, I'm going to fleece these guys or whatever, right?

00:26:54.667 --> 00:26:58.788
Because the reality is actually coming out and we can't stop it.

00:26:59.218 --> 00:27:00.258
And that is a.

00:27:01.123 --> 00:27:01.962
Uh, by design.

00:27:02.103 --> 00:27:03.393
The universe did it that way so

00:27:03.493 --> 00:27:03.503
Uh

00:27:03.653 --> 00:27:09.173
we could really understand each other, uh, motives, our real motives for each other.

00:27:09.853 --> 00:27:11.942
he played some things to us that blew our minds.

00:27:11.952 --> 00:27:17.972
People that were Kennedy, Um, had a premonition of his own assassination.

00:27:18.472 --> 00:27:22.353
Um, we had his, uh, his kid, uh, who was,

00:27:22.374 --> 00:27:22.394
huh.

00:27:22.673 --> 00:27:38.423
wasn't speaking yet, was in the bathtub, asking, uh, was trying to reach a toy in the bathtub and she couldn't reach it, so she was going, and he played that backwards, and his name was David, and she's, you can hear plainly, not like mumbles, you can plainly hear her say, help me David.

00:27:39.182 --> 00:27:41.413
it, it just really blew my mind.

00:27:42.303 --> 00:27:47.423
that was one of the episodes that, that still to this day, I can't explain and I love it.

00:27:47.563 --> 00:27:48.542
I go back to it all the time.

00:27:50.989 --> 00:27:51.189
And I love it.

00:27:51.814 --> 00:28:01.203
That, wow, I haven't heard of it going that far, and it looks like he stumbled upon that, Yeah.

00:28:01.423 --> 00:28:09.203
just like what you said, and how he describes it, that, that language of communication that goes on, which is very freaky that.

00:28:09.203 --> 00:28:11.443
it would be, um, reversed.

00:28:11.443 --> 00:28:16.594
It's almost like, um, language has its own shadow, and he found its shadow.

00:28:17.083 --> 00:28:17.472
Yeah.

00:28:17.782 --> 00:28:18.113
Yes.

00:28:18.544 --> 00:28:20.874
And he's recording the shadow of language.

00:28:21.564 --> 00:28:22.064
Um,

00:28:22.192 --> 00:28:23.113
a great way to explain it.

00:28:23.313 --> 00:28:23.722
Oh, I wonder if

00:28:23.732 --> 00:28:24.893
there's reverse body language.

00:28:25.284 --> 00:28:25.594
right.

00:28:25.594 --> 00:28:26.753
This Is probably, uh,

00:28:27.192 --> 00:28:28.143
middle finger if you're driving?

00:28:31.198 --> 00:28:31.678
Yeah, I think it's

00:28:31.693 --> 00:28:33.084
you're probably saying it.

00:28:35.688 --> 00:28:36.198
Oh, that's true.

00:28:37.804 --> 00:28:38.903
The time the host blew you off.

00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:40.099
Broadcaster.

00:28:40.104 --> 00:28:40.344
there, he's

00:28:41.185 --> 00:28:41.826
I'm back.

00:28:41.865 --> 00:28:43.736
It's just the, that's funny.

00:28:44.086 --> 00:28:45.536
It said, um, oops.

00:28:45.596 --> 00:28:46.705
That's what my browser said.

00:28:46.766 --> 00:28:47.165
Oops.

00:28:47.586 --> 00:28:48.155
Um.

00:28:50.125 --> 00:28:51.276
You've been cut off.

00:28:51.316 --> 00:28:53.080
Uh, It's probably, who knows?

00:28:53.080 --> 00:28:54.560
It'd be a whole list of stuff, right?

00:28:55.330 --> 00:28:56.820
As we were talking about shadows.

00:28:59.040 --> 00:28:59.621
Ooh.

00:28:59.894 --> 00:29:00.434
all the time.

00:29:00.434 --> 00:29:06.644
Sometimes We're, we're, it really does, we're interviewing someone that's really connected, especially the, the near death experiencers interview them.

00:29:06.644 --> 00:29:08.894
We get all kinds of gremlins in the works we get.

00:29:09.660 --> 00:29:14.099
Problems with our recording or that our internet craps out, or it's uncanny.

00:29:14.339 --> 00:29:18.009
And the first couple of times we're like, could you have warned us a little bit?

00:29:18.009 --> 00:29:18.339
Right.

00:29:18.700 --> 00:29:20.200
But cause she's like, Oh, it happens all the

00:29:20.431 --> 00:29:20.691
Yeah.

00:29:20.691 --> 00:29:20.990
Yeah.

00:29:21.230 --> 00:29:21.829
Well, damn it.

00:29:21.869 --> 00:29:23.039
Why didn't you say something?

00:29:25.250 --> 00:29:25.881
Say something.

00:29:25.891 --> 00:29:26.371
Come on.

00:29:26.711 --> 00:29:27.810
See something, say something?

00:29:28.151 --> 00:29:28.671
Um,

00:29:29.250 --> 00:29:30.339
She was saying in reverse.

00:29:30.861 --> 00:29:31.471
Uh, I would.

00:29:32.550 --> 00:29:32.830
Yeah.

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literally.

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You haven't read that yet?

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So, uh, what is it?

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That's like Jim Carrey, man.

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So, it's funny, cause, uh, I wanted to add something before we close out.

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Um, and answer my thoughts on what may have just happened.

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When you start talking about, I don't want to say dark things, but maybe esoteric, more energetic being type scenarios, it always comes up where...

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Electronics get haywire, and there's this understanding, there was this guy actually who had the ability and understood this, and when there was like a haunting, he just absorbed the energy, and he just, and then all the issues would be done because in the hauntings they absorb the energy around you, the electronics, to do stuff, Or, if It's a being nearby.

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They're going to offset the electronics because electronics work on a deeper level, right?

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The electromagnetic spectrum and all that.

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So there's a crisscross happening.

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And if we get caught off in a specific subject matter, it could be just someone just like trying to join the show.

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You won't talk about this.

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Mm-hmm.

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by the way, that's our secret.

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This guy, reverse speech guy has had a lot of issues shadowy figures trying to stop him from giving, getting these messages out.

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maybe they're

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There it is.

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There it is.

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There it is.

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Be gone.

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Be gone.

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Okay, so.

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Cue in the X File music and the Twilight Zone.

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That we would have to pay for.

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So, as we come to, yeah, right?

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As we come to a close, thank you for coming on the show.

00:31:18.816 --> 00:31:21.296
It's, well, Karen, it's been awesome.

00:31:21.455 --> 00:31:24.935
For the, the amazing stories, the, the tears.

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I was holding back, some emotions myself.

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It's okay to cry.

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So.

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John.

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Don't let it, let it fly.

00:31:32.744 --> 00:31:35.164
Let it come out because otherwise, uh, know,

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Oh yeah.

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that absorbs those negative energies, your plumber's not going to be happy with you.

00:31:40.711 --> 00:31:41.121
Oh.

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Hehehe.

00:31:41.984 --> 00:31:42.974
That went over Karen's head.

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It did.

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I'm kind of glad.

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Yeah.

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I'll explain it to you afterwards.

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Hehehe.

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No, holding back.

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so

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much for inviting us to come on.

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This has been an

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Yeah,

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much fun.

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We're honored and thrilled to be on your show.

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We're looking forward to it.

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Um, staying in touch.

00:31:59.096 --> 00:31:59.715
I'm excited.

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Yeah, for sure.

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