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We're constantly running from ourselves and he was releasing all this energy.
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It was bound for for many years Uh, when I woke up off the table, when I finally got to the point where it was done, I couldn't even get up.
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They had to help me up.
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And this, the first guy who I see is this guy, Julian, who were still coaches together.
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And he says, welcome back.
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And I'm just like, this is wild.
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It was so wild.
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They had to carry me.
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Literally three guys had to carry me and put me on the floor where I couldn't, I felt like I couldn't even.
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Stand up.
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All right.
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Welcome to the New Age Human Podcast.
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I'm your host, Jon Astacio.
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Today, we're talking with Joseph Pellicci who is an aspiring man on fire coach and what some call a seeker.
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So what do we talk about?
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We actually go into his journey of a traumatic beginning into some type of movie like experiences.
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Some of the things that he goes into is loving yourself, making a decision for change, and trusting the process.
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Without needing to know all the answers.
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And as always, I ask if you can leave us a five star Apple podcast review that can help us attract really cool, inspiring guests in the future.
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And what that said, thank you for joining us today.
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Let's be the change.
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And he's got the, the man on fire camera, camera shirt.
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Oh my God.
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I love it.
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I got my, my Spartan race shirt.
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I'm like, now I'm going to be all messing it up.
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I don't know if I can see it.
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I'm not looking at myself.
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can see
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Yeah.
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I love that stuff.
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When I saw a man on fire, I'm like, is this another Spartan thing or Tough Mudder I can do to look cool?
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It's, but, but it's something completely different.
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welcome to the, to the show.
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Welcome, welcome to the podcast Joe.
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We're, we're, we're chatting about, your story and we, we reconnected recently and you're like, Hey, let's catch up.
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And I'm like, what made you reach out to me recently?
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And he's like, energy, man, energy.
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So I'm like, let's get on out.
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Your story needs to be heard.
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Not just by my ears and the local ears, but everywhere.
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So, I mean, first, how's it going?
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How's it going, man?
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Great.
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Great.
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Is this growth?
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And, uh, contribution going on in my life, so it's, it's an amazing
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Yeah.
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And, and we met in a spot that has nothing to do with your, with what you're doing.
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And it was more of like a meeting around like finances.
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And then, a couple of years later, you're on this amazingly different, specific journey that revolves around wellness, mindset, masculinity.
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So I want to dive into like.
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What happened that made you shift?
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Yeah, so for, for me, it was, my wife leaving me.
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she, she, she had an affair.
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And, what really started that journey, if you want to go all the start, I was at church, praying.
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And there was just something that felt off with me.
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And, it's just this knowing that came over me.
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It's like, man, this just doesn't make sense.
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Like I'm going to work, going home, I'm paying bills, I'm going to work, I'm going home, paying bills.
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And it was just like this hamster
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were in the rat
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literally.
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And I was like, there's, yeah.
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I'm like, so what is this all?
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This is, this literally makes no sense.
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Is this life?
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Like we just work, go home, go to sleep, wake up, work, go home, go to sleep, wake up and die.
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I mean, what's the point in that?
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It makes no sense and I, you know, there was parts of me that wanted to chase things in my life, chase objects, chase, you know, money, chase all these things.
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And even at the same time, it was uncomfortable because where I was really didn't have that opportunity to do so.
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So more and more, it was like the universe was really just putting me in a position where it became more and more uncomfortable.
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And I just.
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I remember sitting in front of the Blessed Mother statue, and I was just like, I just prayed to her and I was just like, I, I want to live your son's will over mine.
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I'm just done doing this.
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It makes no sense.
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And I said, whatever you need to take from me, I'm, I'm willing to do whatever it takes.
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Those were my exact words, and a week later I found out my wife was having an affair, and instead of being completely overwhelmed, the first thing it came to was this small voice that said, This is the beginning.
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This is the start
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Isn't that amazing?
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You put it out there, you're like, I'm ready, you made a statement.
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And then, a week later, boom, everything starts to change.
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continue, sorry, just had to throw that in there, that's
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No.
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No, I, I, I love it.
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I mean, just the awareness of that.
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It's, it's amazing because most people that I've met, you know, they would call that all hocus pocus.
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By getting into this work, I've realized how many people have spoken these words.
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And then, almost instantly, their lives have
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Mm hmm, mm hmm.
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Because they, they, and it's, and it's, it's, it goes so much deeper.
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It's just like this real authenticity.
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gave yourself permission to like, accept.
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And I think that's huge to you.
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You're like, I'm ready.
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I accept the next level, the next steps.
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And if we don't make that decision, and if you want to think of it like mindfully on a subconscious level, you're subconsciously, if you don't make that decision and you're like, I'm not ready, but you fake that you're ready, and you just kind of skirt.
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It's not gonna happen, and it's not gonna happen.
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I think a lot of people go through that, so yeah, let's continue that.
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I mean, that's, that's a horrible experience to have, I'm sure.
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What were the next steps that you took, because what were you, just for like a background, what were you doing for work at that time, so people can get a feel of what hamster wheel you were in?
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Oh, so I've been working for my family for ever.
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We've been in business since 1947 and I cook and I've been doing that forever.
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I I've skirted outside of it, started my own vegetable business one time, my own vegetable route, you know, doing this and that.
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I've always been in the entrepreneur areas.
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I just, when I grew up around.
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And you were at a, at a restaurant, right?
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And I, cause I remember you, you were like, you were, you were the chef and you were cooking.
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And so that was your hamster wheel.
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And then you're, you find, you're like, this is it.
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I'm done with this hamster wheel.
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the, you know, the, the, my feet hurt.
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I want to get out.
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I see the world.
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Let's go.
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And then you said, you're ready.
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And then you find out the reality of your situation about your wife.
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And then, what happens next?
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so for myself, I, the first thing that came to me was I didn't want to jump into things right away.
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So I, I looked for mentors and I found this mentor who started teaching me all these.
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New things that I never thought about before and how, you know, how I, you know, we, we see things in a way of shame and blame in polarity towards the world and we want to put it out on everybody else, but we never look back at ourselves and we never even realize that what we attract into our lives is exactly what we are.
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And as we can, we can do that.
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we can, we, we realized in where we were coming from and how we created this realities for ourselves that we ultimately Think everybody's against us.
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This world, why is it always me?
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Why, why is everything always going wrong for me?
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And when I was able to look at my own game and realize, Holy shit, this is crazy.
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I I've been creating this this whole time.
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Everything that's been in my life has always been just from where I'm coming from.
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Well, then I'm ready to change that and I'll do whatever it takes.
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And it's really those words, like whatever it takes.
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Whatever it takes.
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That means no time schedule.
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No, no certain conditions around how it has to look.
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I have no idea what it's going to look like, but I know I'm willing to do whatever it takes to live the best life that I can.
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To live as my best self and live towards something that's beyond me.
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Something that, that has nothing to do with me.
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Something that is way, way beyond me.
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But that started with learning how to love myself first.
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I couldn't be those things unless I was an example of it by going through the journey myself.
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and in getting that mentor, I was able to realize where I was coming from, but also I realized that I had two sons.
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I already have a daughter who's much older, but I had two sons that I'm raising and I knew that I needed to be the example for them in what unconditional love is.
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So I, I just knew that for me, that was very important and that I wouldn't want anybody to give up on me.
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If, if I was in the position of my wife, I wouldn't want her to give up on me, nor would I want to example to my children that when people hurt you, you just give up on them and you leave them because that's not love.
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That's not love.
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And what I realized is through this journey is this world is just a reflection of people in pain that don't know how to love themselves.
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And they're just trying to hire somebody else or something else to be able to fulfill those things inside themselves they feel aren't worthy of love.
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I see that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, so you had a mentor.
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He was able to get you into more of a self reflection and you have this epiphany of self love and then you're, now you're looking at your kids too and you want to be that example.
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where, where does the journey go from being a chef to now trying these new modalities?
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I know you're jumping into.
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several solutions for people and for yourself.
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how does, what does that look like?
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So through that journey, once I got with, him, it's, with that mentor, I, you know, it's like the algorithms always hear what's going on in your life and what you're researching.
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And I'm researching all these energies and, comes up man on fire.
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And I'm like, man, this looks satanic.
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What is this crazy
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I just see if a guy on fire in my mind, you know, but, but yo, that's like energetic fire, you know, like
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it was a room for, yeah, it was like a room full of men screaming at each other and then, you know, it was just like this, there's something that was drawing me to it.
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But at the same time, it was like, do I really want to do this?
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This looks like it might be a little bit beyond
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Hmm.
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and so I did this call one night and it said, there's a code 9 1 1.
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Just come in and you get to check out what the whole thing is like.
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So I did it.
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I paid the money.
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I got in.
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I was like, man, for a whole day, five hours worth of stuff, at least I'll get to see what this is all about.
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that was man on fire.
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Was that something else?
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that was man on fire.
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And yeah, I, I was, I was in the middle of a bunch of things.
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I knew in the beginning of my journey, I wanted to put myself.
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around people that were growing.
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So I joined a local Toastmasters.
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And then from there, I started getting around people who, you know, putting myself in uncomfortable positions.
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I just knew that's what I needed to do is keep on putting myself in places that would make me uncomfortable and grow whatever it took.
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and then I saw this ad and it was like, get in there.
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And I, I couldn't.
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afford it in the beginning, but I had done a, I did a Tony Robbins UPW and it was like, get resourceful.
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what's UPW for?
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I don't know what it stands for, but it's, it's just, it's called a UPW.
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It's his, his live, tours that he does all over the country and he had one, it was, this was, right before COVID.
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So he had the first one ever online.
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Yeah.
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I remember that.
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It was like right before COVID got crazy, and it was like, he couldn't do the live ones anymore, so he did it, he had to do online, it was the first one ever.
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And I did it, and I learned all this stuff, but the one thing that really stuck with me was...
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Resourcefulness.
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If you really want what you want, don't believe that there's no way to get it.
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People have been in the worst positions worse than you and they figured out how to do these things from nothing to something, zero to one.
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And I was like, okay, I just had so much leverage in my life that I was like, what is all this stuff that I do?
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I really need this stuff.
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I was like, no, I mean, my, my life is my life worth a dollar.
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It has no price.
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I can't put a price on it.
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So I started selling all my guitars and little by little, I got to go to the man on fire journey, but what happened before then was when I was on a phone call with one of the mentors during this nine one, one call, which was the most synchronistic thing that could.
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You know, start my journey was I was like, I got on a call with this coach.
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I'm like, okay, he's going to give me a number.
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I'm going to figure out how to get through the story.
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Even if it takes me three years to get there, get this guy on the phone.
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And this guy Raj answers the phone.
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And he's like, starts asking me all these strange questions about, did I go to Stanford high school?
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Did I wrestle on the team?
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Was I the captain?
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Did I have certain friends?
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And I'm just like, how does this guy know all these things?
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And he come to find out was.
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graduate of Stanford High School, graduated the same year that I graduated, wrestled on the wrestling team, but was on the JV, so I, he was like, you probably wouldn't have known me.
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And he had all the same friends that I had, and I was just like, okay, this is just meant to be.
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I'm meant to go to this and I'm going to do whatever it takes to get there.
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And it took me about eight months to come up with the money.
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usually they don't let people stay in the program that long, but I tell them, just don't give up on me.
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I'm telling you, I will figure it out.
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I'll figure it out.
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And I figured it out.
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I, I got the money and I went to this journey and it was the first time that I've ever experienced something to this level of awakening.
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this, you said this journey, you go somewhere and you have some type of journey or some type of experience.
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so we go to immersions, it's four day immersions and they'll usually be all over the country, different areas and, a lot of coaching, but there's something called table work NSA work.
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and it's, it's spinal cord analysis.
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Most of the people, well, all the people who do all the practitioners are licensed chiropractors, but what they do is not chiropractic.
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what they do is learned by a man named, Well, Donny Epstein, but the man who runs my program, who owns Man on Fire is David Miller and amazing, amazing healer.
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And, I mean, I am so thankful for this, this man, because he has literally put me on my journey and, you know, awakened me to the point where when I was on the table, the first time you're on a chiropractic table, face down.
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And he's like, okay, he comes up to me.
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He looked, he kind of like runs his hand down my spine and he whispers in my ear, you're number five.
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This sounds so bad.
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This, as,
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I know.
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But, you know, like, you know, like, when a, when a chiropractor, like, feels your back before they crack it, they have to, he does the same thing because he's a licensed chiropractor.
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He runs his hand down your spine and what he's feeling for is the, the, imperfections in your spinal cord.
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and you know you wouldn't have done this anywheres else if it was a different situation getting on a platform Just put your face down.
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I'm gonna touch your spine and whisper in your ear like
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Sounds like a bad episode on TV or some show.
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Yeah, yeah like you know if your dentist does that like just get up and walk off like
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Yeah.