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that.
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So advice to any younger listeners would definitely be, once you make peace with that, don't care what anyone thinks about.
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Yeah.
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Don't be judgmental on other people.
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You'll see someone walking down the street and you go, what's that guy wearing?
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Or what's that girl wearing?
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Who cares?
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It's the natural law.
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If they're not doing no harm to anyone, why do we care?
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Why is it portrayed in the media that they're not wearing the best Chinese, they're not wearing the best tracksuits.
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You know, it doesn't matter.
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It matters that they're a good human being, and that's what we're very, very removed from at the moment
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all right.
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Welcome to the New Age Human Podcast.
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I'm your host, John as Stasio, and today we're talking with.
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Paul Whiteside.
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from the uk, Liverpool woo woo.
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So he's a highly driven entrepreneur, successful businessman, husband and father, producer of the number 42 podcast.
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So really cool.
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Check him out.
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So stick around for the whole episode because we're gonna talk about dealing with trauma and turning that into your superpower, a psychedelic trip that Paul went on where he got some feedback on self-reflection and the importance of finding your tribe for success in life.
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So before we begin, just a reminder, you can always join our telegram channel where we.
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Basically discuss topics mentioned in the show, and more importantly, sharing what topics are of most interest to you.
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And if you want to get in touch with me, you can always go to new age human.com.
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And there should be a contact button and a record button too if you wanna do a voice recording.
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So let's get to the show.
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Thanks for joining us.
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Let's go.
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Thanks for coming on, man.
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I, I appreciate it.
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We we started having a conversation around doing a show together, and you have your own podcast, the if you're watching the number 42 podcast.
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So Paul, thanks for coming on, man.
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I appreciate you.
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Oh, thank you.
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Thanks for the invite.
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Really appreciate it.
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Yeah.
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And you're coming.
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All the way from Liverpool, and I think that is awesome for anybody who's, who's wondering about the accent who's not used to the accent on the show.
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I'm excited because now we're bringing more color in the vocal section of the show.
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So this is gonna be really cool and we have some interesting topics to talk about.
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So Paul psychedelic trips.
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You, you went bananas and you went all into that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it come, come around about I think I stumbled upon reading during the pandemic.
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Obviously we were all going down rabbit holes and, and so on and so forth.
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And very interested in, in, in the psychedelic thing.
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So done.
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Done be, be homework as as they say.
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And researched quite well a group of really close-knit friends, which I think is really important that you do something like that.
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With got together and we planned out what we were gonna do.
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Long story short is there's a few basic rules that I know you've covered psychedelics before, but I'd like to touch on, which are rule number one and probably the most important one is set and setting.
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So I believe you should always be out in nature and it should be always with people you trust.
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Having a strip that is quite important as well.
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So obviously if anyone has a bad experience, then they can help along with, with that, really.
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Would you like me to retort the story?
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Yeah.
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I don't, I definitely wanna get into how you discovered that you were an Indigo child, but yeah, if there's a story in there, go ahead and it's, are you in the woods in this story?
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so what happened was we planned we, we talked about it planned.
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We, we found the supplier.
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Cause obviously here where we are, it's not.
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Strictly legitimate, shall we say.
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So what we'd done was we went out, hi, hide, a little cottage out over Pendle Hill.
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Lovely setting.
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Summer's, evening, sun going down.
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Really great.
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Well, you know, evening it was, sun was going down before quite a while.
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Made a mushroom tea.
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Obviously waited for the strips to, to take hold.
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So we're all sitting around in the garden.
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We've all measured out the mushrooms according to body weight.
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So on and so forth, which is really important that you do these things.
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Get the giggles, then the visuals come on and wow.
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I remember the trip kicked in and it was intense.
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And remember thinking to yourself, you wanted this, let it, let it ride and go with it and, and see what, where it takes you.
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Obviously I had, before going into it, I had a massive fear of death cause I really enjoy life.
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And all the trappings that come with it.
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So I remember thinking about death and, you know, what's the, you know, sort of the key to the universe and some sort of purple wave come past me and it said so much to me.
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Like, you know, we're all energy it, we go on, don't worry.
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But without saying anything, it was really unusual how it happened.
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And From that point onwards, I settled and I had the, you know, one of the best experiences of my life really.
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The visuals, the trees were puls Satan with energy and colors.
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You could see molecules and stuff.
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Friends of mine had different colored auras.
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Some had had orange, some had green and purples, and it was fantastic.
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I've only done it the one time, so it's not like anything you do that is addictive.
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So that.
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Psychedelic ship was absolutely fantastic, and I think everyone should at least once go there, but you have to go in with the right state of mind.
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I think if you're holding onto any traumas or you're worried about it, don't do it.
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That would be my, my advice anyway.
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I.
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That was an interesting trip.
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Now you to go into it now, you, you said you feel that because you had a fear of death, that that was one of the messages that you got the most from right where it said there's a purple wave.
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And it said in some way or form, don't worry about it cuz it's a continuation.
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That's just how it is.
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Do you feel like you are less afraid of death now?
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Yeah, I mean, I find that I'm able to handle the thought of it now because I think it's something that we can't escape.
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So I think if you make peace with it there was a Netflix documentary series called How to Change Your Mind.
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Was filmed in the US really, really good.
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And they give that treatment to terminal cancer patients and they come out the other side of it, really losing that anxiety of dying, which I found beautiful when I watch the series.
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Really.
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So I, I advise everyone to watch that as well.
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Cause it gives you a, a sort of doorway into that world really.
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Hmm.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Now the trees, they were pulsating and you saw molecules.
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That is freaky.
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So the tree thing was really if you've seen avatar, that's how I can explain it.
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You know, when you see the trees and the, the definitely alive, there's something that, you know, they integrated under the ground.
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Obviously there's with mushrooms, there's a thing called the mycelial network.
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I dunno if you're aware, you know about that, don't you?
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Yeah, elaborate on that.
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so obviously it's a network of root systems that go throughout the planet and apparently trees can talk to each other, other.
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Other things can happen, insects, everything.
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It's all connected in our ecosystem and it's a very delicate ecosystem, but it's also really efficient as well.
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In life death, it regenerates.
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So when something dies and it goes into the ground, it's reborn or something else, the energy is used up.
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So nothing ever really dies, in my opinion.
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So if you see some of these I'm really interested in this by the way, when you do die, which is.
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Not something that I'm very looking forward to, but you, you can get these pods where you're put in like a feet position in like a sack and you're put with a sapling in the ground and you feed the tree as your body dies off.
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So a farmer fascinating.
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So you sort of live on through nature.
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Hmm.
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You know, it's, what do you think about this idea that actually Trees feed us because it's, it's like they're growing us.
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As their food.
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They feed us their fruit and their vegetation so that we can grow big and strong.
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And then when we die, they absorb us through the ground.
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So it's actually them taking care of us.
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Yeah, I mean, why not?
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I mean, they obviously filter what we breathe out and they give us what we breathe.
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So it's, it's, it's an ecosystem, isn't it?
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It.
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It works hand in hand.
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So I think, you know, we need to be protect in the environment and we talk a lot about going back to nature and I think spending time out in the countryside, that's something every, everyone should do.
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Go for a walk, you know, get out your comfort zone.
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I mean, I recently went to Creon, hiked down to Waterfall and we went an anniversary and it was phenomenal.
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Swamp, swam in in rivers and, and all sorts of trek down.
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Go to get to this Waterfall Creek and.
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It was one of the best days ever and it's something I'll, I'll, I'll never forget,
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I love.
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Yeah.
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I love.
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Of hiking, especially with like some close friends.
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And it's a, it's a way to get some mental clarity and reconnect and some of your best ideas come from that, right?
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Like I always recommend not always I don't think I ever recommended this, but I would say I recommend, now I'm gonna go hiking today.
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I'm gonna bring, if not my phone, my like a notebook.
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And as.
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The thoughts flow and I observe nature and part of what I wanna do is help people reconnect to themselves and nature.
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Throw some ideas down on paper.
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I think that would be really cool, but.
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But
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I wanna go back to how you had an awesome setup where you guys measured everything out for your mushroom trip and you went to like this cottage in the middle of the woods.
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Who were those people that you decided to surround yourself with?
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I think that would be very interesting.
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So they are the crew from the number 42 podcast.
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They are lads that I grew up with and we've stayed friends and we've all got various backgrounds now as well.
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So we've all got very, very different jobs and we, we are very, very tight-knit and anyone who listens to our podcast will feel that energy in the room.
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There's some something that goes on and, and this, the podcast is becoming successful at the moment, and it, it's something that you can't easily replicate.
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There's an energy that's generated.
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There's a symbiotic relationship there where we generate energy between us and, and it is fun and games on, on that podcast.
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Like I think anyone who listens to it will, will come across that.
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Yeah, you guys are hilarious.
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Definitely check out his podcast.
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We will have a link and information at the end of the show, so no worries about that.
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Am I to understand that the people that you decided to just pretty much have this amazing trip with they were or are your, your fellow podcast co-hosts
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b slash be Yeah.
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Slash best friends as
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bash friends.
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Oh, so it was a mix of people that are the people that if someone listens to your show, th some of those people were there, if not all of them, plus some of your best friends from like way back.
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No, the, the best friends are the ones that run the show as well with us What, what happened?
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It was sorted by accident.
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We created the show.
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We decided that we weren't seeing enough of each other, so we put a Friday night, every two weeks together to meet up and have a couple of beers.
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I think on the first night we had maybe a little bit of marijuana and things flowed.
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Some ideas come out and someone suggested we just should record what we talk about, obviously.
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We're massive into our talking.
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And I think the generation of going down to your local pub or club and talking about things, particularly for males as well was a big thing.
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You'd work all week and then you'd go to a pub club and you would talk with other males.
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And I think that's a massive thing that's missing now in society, I think after pandemics and that people are sort of apprehensive about going out, whether they can afford it, whether.
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You know, they're scared to go out and we're sort of bringing that sort of pub type humor to the podcast.
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But also we, you know, we do factual stuff and that it's a bit of a magazine.
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We do stuff on music, we have fun, there's quizzes, what, whatever really.
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The dynamic works really, really well.
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Talking about The culture of just at the end of the day, whether you have, whether you have a business, whether you're working, you meet up with your friends, your boys, you go to the pub, the club, and you just kind of just live it up, right?
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You have these conversations, you exchanged all the things you learned throughout the week and you're seeing that where you are.
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Slowly going away because of just the times have changed where people are more so indoors or used to being indoors after the lockdowns.
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Is that what you're saying?
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Yeah, I, I think technology plays a big part as well.
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A lot of people buried in, in phones and stuff and defining alternative ways of entertaining themselves.
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But the sort, again, they're taking themselves away from social circles that we as hunter gatherers, We're always in.
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So our idea is we are building the community slowly and steady of like-minded people.
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So the people that will come to the podcast now to listen, we are retaining them obviously.
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So someone made us this sign behind, which was fantastic and it was a lovely surprise on one of the shows.
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And we're just trying to get, find a way in a digitally era of still keeping our identity.
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So you sort of got a little bit, a bit in the matrix.
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Matrix and a little bit out of it if, if, if you, so to speak.
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Yeah.
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And for anybody that's listening when he was pointing to the poster behind him, it's the number a a fan created a poster for him, and it's the number 42 image made in the micro images of the show graphics, I believe.
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Right.
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Each episode has like
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Show, show, show titles.
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show titles.
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Yeah.
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So it's, it's actually pretty cool.
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And this will be on YouTube, so No worries.
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So
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So
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I think what I wanted to do is talk about how, first of all,
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first of all,
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you you were saying that I'm laughing at a story that you said because I want, I want you to explain, let's go into it.
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I want you to explain for someone who's listening, Paul has no eyebrows and no eyelashes, no hair and and his words.
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He's always ready to go out.
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He's always ready to go out and
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So yeah,
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you ex share that story if you don't mind?
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okay.
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Well, I'll, I'll go back to 1976 was the year of my birth unusual heat waver that year as well.
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So something special was happening then I, I entered the planet.
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I was actually two months premature.
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And I was born with no eyebrows, no eyelashes like I am now.
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Went on group, had a normal, great upbringing in eighties and nineties.
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Fantastic time to be alive in my opinion.
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Probably didn't have the best of diets once they'd had children or daughter.
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Always played football or soccer as you guys call it.
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At a really good level.
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Always done well in athletics, in school, stuff like that was really.
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A fit person, obviously children come along and that takes a back burner.
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If you're gonna do it properly, you're gonna put your energy into these children around rather than into a gym.
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So I had terrible diet, you know, I was drinking coke and you just eat pasties and work, you know, like pastries and stuff like that.
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And not really great.
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And I think I was suffering from a lot of heartburn.
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So I was in about about 40.
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It was about forti.
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A circle of gray hair appeared about the size of a dime, you would call it.
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You guys empty head.
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And one of my mates was saying, oh look, you know, you've got a gray, gray hair.
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And then it fell out and then it started to go all over.
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And then literally all me hair just went out.