Original Sports Podcast Funky Christmas Throw Down

We're live.
No, you can leave that music on until those fools get here.
It's not like the other stuff.
It's not as peanut buttery.
This is more whiskey.
It has more whiskey on it.
It's probably my favorite Christmas album.
Oh, yeah.
You know, and it was funny because I think yesterday, the day before, I was listening to this song.
And originally, you know, they were talking about this song.
This was a, you know, a song that the guy made that wasn't really a Christmas song.
He was just composing the song.
Yeah.
And then when they put the comics, you know, put Linus into it and Snoopy, it's something great.
Vince Giraldi, 1965.
This one, I love Christmastimes here.
Skating, I love.
I know, I got my serious radio.
It's called Apollo.
Yes.
I like 97.1.
Yeah, every year we go.
That's the kickback, right?
Hey, relax, everybody.
We're waiting for the crew to get here.
It would not be normal if they were here on time.
I'll see you again.
That's right, he's ready for it.
Come on, dude.
Thanks, Terry.
I'm letting Trey in.
It ain't my fault you're bothering me, dude.
He said he'd be here in eight minutes.
That's his problem.
Come on, man.
This is supposed to start at noon.
Noon, baby.
Find your seat.
Yeah, it starts at noon, but I tell you what.
Right here?
Yes.
I'm going right there.
Everything can be seen right in here.
Oh, there's our nuts.
Geez.
Our bartender, Joe, I'm going to call you out.
You can bring a chair and sit with us when we don't need something.
Yeah, hell yeah.
Trey, where you at, Trey?
This is my new football.
What's going on, Trey?
What's going on, fellas?
We're just trying to get it together, my man.
Trying to get it together.
I'm sure you always have people in your life who ran late.
Well, we always got them on this show, too.
Always.
Yeah, there's always somebody.
I should have told you to start at 1130, and then things should have been here at noon.
It's all good.
I'm on time.
I see you.
You guys got a nice setup over there.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
We're in the driveway outside my garage.
I got my buddy here to bartend for us.
Tis the season, my man.
Wish you was here with us.
I wish I was, too.
You guys doing it right.
Wait, I don't even see you.
I do see you.
You're in Atlanta?
Yes.
You don't need this fire pit, then.
Nah, man.
It's nice and 62 right now.
It's sunny.
It's 62.
It's always nice.
George Lee.
Yeah.
A lot of crazy stuff.
Hey, our guys here with us.
Sorry you couldn't make it on Tuesday.
We're just glad to have you here with us for the holiday special.
I appreciate that, my man.
Everything going good down there for you?
Yeah, we're blessed over here, man.
Enjoying the holidays.
Enjoying this good Atlanta weather in December.
Thanks, Drake.
That's why I was extremely happy when you were willing to jump on with us.
I appreciate it.
It's an honor.
Thank you guys for having me on, though.
You know, you keep it about as little as it gets because some people really supercoat what's going on with Pittsburgh Steelers.
But let's talk about you a little bit first.
Can we do that?
Yeah, definitely.
Tell us a little bit about Trey.
Talk about that background.
I heard you're a two-time state champion in Indiana.
Well, we should have been two-time.
We made it to state in football my junior year, or my freshman year, actually.
But we won state in basketball my senior year.
And actually, people don't know that.
I'm a basketball player first.
Football was actually the last sport I learned how to play.
So coming from a state like Indiana, where I believe it's the mecca of high school basketball, man, I definitely made my mark on the basketball court first and then football second.
Where'd you play at in the court?
I played, I was like a .4, you know?
I could handle the rock, but I was down low posting up.
You know, the art of the big man has been lost.
You see these guys out here shooting threes.
I may be shouting four threes in my career.
Say what?
He thought you were bringing the ball up like Shaq.
I could do that.
That's part of my repertoire.
I'm not pitching home beat to the paint, man.
I can get out there and shoot too.
We're going to keep that little tidbit for later.
Who was your guy, Larry Bird?
I was the MJ guy.
Okay.
Even though Larry Bird's from French Flick, Indiana, I was a fan of his, but MJ's my guy.
Yeah.
Where are you guys at?
When they start bringing that MJ LeBron thing.
That's a silly debate, man.
They're both great.
Yeah, in their own way.
In their own way.
In their own way.
Trey, talk a little bit about when you got into the pros.
What was that like?
What was your first day like in the pros?
Oh, man.
So I was a Steelers fan actually before I even got drafted.
So Rob Woodson's from Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Ah, yes.
And so I used to go to his camp growing up, and he really took me under his wing.
He saw something in me at an early age.
So it was a blessing, dude, to get that draft day call from Coach Cowher.
Yes.
I tell everybody, man, when I got that 412 area code and I answered the phone, all I could hear was his chin.
He didn't even say any words.
I just heard his chin through the phone.
And he's like, you ready to be a Steeler?
I'm like, hell yeah, I was.
First time my parents had heard me cuss.
I was so excited.
But yeah, I mean, going to Pittsburgh, going to that facility, going to that locker room,
Walk in, walk in, you automatically feel the tradition, the greatness, the expectations of Steeler Nation and just how the Steelers and the Roonies have operated up to that point.
So in 2005, when I got drafted, I was going to a great team already.
I mean, we had Ben, obviously, in his second year.
But to be able to block for the likes of Jerome Bettis and block next to guys like Alan Fennec and Marvell Smith,
Jeff Hardings, that whole O-line, and then getting coached by the legendary Russ Grimm.
I mean, I couldn't ask for a better situation.
And I came in knowing that I had to put up or shut up because the expectations were so high.
And we knew we had a Super Bowl-ready team.
So I was blessed, man, coming in Pittsburgh and being able to get drafted by my childhood favorite team.
But, I mean, eight years in the league, man, definitely did well for me and did well for my family.
Trey, we hear a lot about how the Steelers are a family environment.
Like, Dan used to come in and talk to you all and things like that.
What was that like?
It was amazing.
I mean...
I tell everybody this story, like old man Rooney, Dan Rooney, whenever we would get up, get to the practice facility, he was already on elliptical reading his newspaper.
And I used to do cardio with him every morning.
And so just to be able to just see the owner, like there was no kind of like separation.
There was no hierarchy.
He was in there working out 70, 80 years old with us.
Like he was one of us.
And just to be able to see them every day, because I've been to other teams before and the owners aren't that visible, not like the Rooney's were.
And so just from him being there and just giving that feeling that he's one of us, he has his hand in the pile.
He's not just somebody delegating to the folks and the staff.
He's actually in there.
Part of the process means everything.
And I'll tell you a story.
Even after Art Rooney has kept that tradition, this past Tuesday, we had a Christmas special where guys, former players, guys I hadn't seen in years, but we connected through Zoom.
had a little Christmas special where Coach LeBeau came on and did the Christmas Carol for us.
And, I mean, that just goes to show you what kind of organization they are.
And, I mean, it stands to this day.
Like, I feel like I'm part of a family still.
Is Rooney there now?
Is he visible?
Yeah, Art Rooney is around.
He jumped on the call with his grandson.
It was great to see him, Coach Tomlin, Coach LeBeau, Kevin Colbert.
I mean, just to be able to be able to talk and have conversations with those guys.
I've been retired since 2013 for a decade now.
It doesn't feel like it, but it's been 10 years, and I'm just as close to them as I ever was.
You want to ask a question about the locker room?
In the locker room trade, do you guys hang out all together, or is it just the offensive linemen together?
Is it the offense?
You have your factions.
Yeah, it's O-line.
Usually the position groups line up and hang out together, but then we sometimes go out with the defensive line.
Sometimes we hang out with the linebackers, and that was the great thing about our team is that no matter what, if we were going to do something fun and
Outside the locker room, it was all-inclusive.
It wasn't just one position group or one side of the ball.
Everybody hung out together.
And so I used to go to Casey Hampton's house for barbecues.
He used to come over our house and tear up our food as well.
So, I mean, it was a whole team thing, and we never left anybody out.
You ever have to pay any big bills, Trey?
Oh, yeah, man.
I know y'all have heard of rookie dinner, man.
We went to my rookie dinner.
I know you guys heard the horror stories about rookie dinners and whatnot.
And so my draft class, it was me and Chris Kimawatu.
He was the sixth rounder.
I was the third rounder.
So, of course, I got the bigger side of the bill when it came to the rookie dinner.
And those guys hit us over the head for about $24,000 for a dinner at Morton.
Yikes.
The Czechs weren't that fat back then, though, were they?
Huh?
The Czechs weren't that fat back then, though.
No, not nearly as fat as they are.
These kids out there are getting mad money.
And they don't have to spend nearly as much.
When Coach Tomlin came in, he kind of put a kibosh on spending that much money on a rookie dinner.
And it is kind of ridiculous, but it was kind of, you know, the rites of passage.
So I didn't mind it.
I hated writing that check, but I understood it.
So it is what it is.
They're getting more in college than they are in the NFL now.
Oh, yeah, they are.
Y'all saw that little meme the other day about Brock Purdy?
Yeah.
Didn't pay less than Arch Manning.
Wow.
The backup quarterback is making 2.8 this year.
Brock Purdy, probably going to win the MVP.
He's got 870.
That was his salary.
Yeah, we did win it.
Mr. Trey, I got here a little late.
I was going to ask you about winning the state championship in Indiana.
That must have been amazing.
Yeah, I've been fortunate enough.
Hold on a second, buddy.
I've been fortunate enough to win two Super Bowls.
But relatively speaking, where I was in life at that point and what the state championship means in basketball to Fort Wayne, Indiana, Indiana as a whole, it meant everything.
And so I still watch that game to relive that moment because where I was in life, it was just as big to me as any Super Bowl that I won as a senior in high school because Fort Wayne hadn't won a state championship since 1974.
At that point, we were able to bring that back home my senior year, so that was special.
Trey, he's a two-time state champion head coach.
That's why he's running late.
Yeah, right.
You got bigger things to worry about, huh, than some podcast, huh?
Yeah.
So we live out in that D.C.
area, and it's always chaos out here.
Yeah, traffic can be hit or miss.
Hey, Trey, let's help the locker room together.
It was a joint effort, man.
It was no one person.
If I had to say who was our captain, like the overall captain, we had a lieutenant and whatnot, so to speak.
But James Ferrier was kind of the guy, the glue guy.
He was the captain of our team.
And the thing is, he didn't lead by a whole bunch of rah-rah speeches and yelling at folks.
He led by example.
He had this calm demeanor that kind of just
made people gravitate towards him and fall in line because you knew you were going to get the best from Patsy.
But on the offensive line, we had Alan Fanica.
And then when Alan Fanica left, we had a combination of me, Max, and Willie Colon to help the young guys.
And then after that, Pouncey came in.
And so there was always somebody on the O-line that was going to help the young guys come up and set the standard for how we're going to perform, how we're going to work out in the offseason, how we're going to practice during the week.
We always had a guy or a collection of guys that knew what to say and how to say it to certain people to get them on board if they were slacking or, you know, you saw something give way to what you're used to getting from them.
You think that's part of the problem, lacking on that line right now?
Nobody's taking the lead?
Yes.
I truly think that there is no alpha dog right now on the O-line or on that offense in general.
It's a young offense, but there's nobody in there.
And I think Broderick Jones has that capability.
But these young guys...
They need somebody who has been there and done that before.
There are no veterans.
Even though Isaac Samala has been to the Super Bowl and played with Philly and played at a high level, he's a quiet guy from what I've heard.
And so there's nobody that's going to get in somebody's face, nobody that's going to really get after guys when they're not performing because O-line has not performed.
There's no bones about it.
O-line has not done their job up front to give our offense the most success possible.
It's sorely needed.
So who steps up after that?
If the players aren't doing it, whose job is it then?
Yeah, the coaches have to have a heavier hand.
So if the coaches don't, what's going on?
Yeah, I mean, you tell me.
I wish I knew.
I mean, obviously there's a lack of leadership on offense because you've got all these guys saying all these things, and you see the lack of effort that's being displayed.
It's been well-documented this week.
We don't have to.
Keep on rehashing it because we saw what the George Pickens comments and we saw what happened with Deontay a few weeks ago on that fumble.
It's not the way that Steelers have done it in the past.
And it's troubling, to be truthfully honest.
And so if the players aren't picking up the slack, the coaches have to step in with a heavier hand and, you know, really set the tone for this offense.
I think the defense has the leaders.
They have Minka.
They have TJ.
They have Cam.
but there's only so much they can do from a team perspective.
They need somebody in the office to step up and step up in a big way.
Trey, I keep saying this, and I might be wrong, because I've never been in the inside of that locker room.
I've been inside high school and college.
But if that locker room is falling apart under the head coach, is it time for a change?
I mean, Coach Tomlin's been there 17 years now.
Is his voice getting stale?
I don't know.
I mean, it's a good question, to be truthfully honest.
I don't think anybody can really say for sure on the outside looking in, but it definitely feels that way when you have all these guys saying these different things in the media, and it doesn't seem like a joint or combined effort towards one goal.
And so that starts at the head.
Maybe you give him an offseason to try to, you know, recorrect and recalibrate this team.
I think he needs to go into this offseason
if he's retained with a different mindset because these kids need, and I say kids, they're 22, 23, 24 years old.
They're grown men.
But they're young and they're immature and it's been put on display and it's been well documented.
And he needs to lead, do something different in offseason.
He can't go in to this offseason with the same process, the same system in place and expect a different result.
Well, Ryan Clark was just on yesterday, on his show yesterday, saying, no doubt about it, the man still got it, but just not here, not right now.
Yeah, I mean, he's still a great coach, yeah.
And he ends up in Kansas City winning two Super Bowls.
Yeah, and there's no issue.
I mean, he's been there for so long, 17 years now, right?
And so, yeah, sometimes maybe the message has gotten lost along the way.
Maybe he has a hard time connecting with these guys like he used to.
But it is, I mean, you got to take a hard look at that.
When this season ends, you got to really interview all the players.
You got to really hear from the players and you got to hear from the leaders, especially to see if Tomlin is still the guy to lead this team in 2024.
I hope he is.
I have a lot of love for Coach Tomlin.
We won a Super Bowl together, went to another one together.
if he doesn't do it in Pittsburgh, he's going to get picked up right away by another team because there are a lot of desperate teams looking for good coaches.
I still think he has it.
I still think he has a great coach.
He's a great coach.
But, I mean, somewhere along the line, the message has gotten lost, and you've got a whole bunch of individuals and not a unit and not a team.
What's his decision-holding power in that locker room?
When you get to draft time, when you pick your assistant coaches, what's his level of power?
Does that fall on the GM more?
Does it fall on more, you know, a Rooney?
Or does he have equal power when it comes to that because it's his squad?
I think he has the ultimate, the final say.
on guys.
I mean, obviously they all, it's a joint effort between him and now Omar.
Um, and he's, he's been there for so long.
He's deserved and earn that, uh, that amount of power, that amount of decision-making.
So, um, yeah, I think at the end of the day, he has the final say on who he wants to coach in the locker room.
And so this is the result of his, his choosing.
Be a straight shooter with me here.
Can he pick at the man or are we just digging for something that ain't there?
Hmm.
If I had to make a decision right now, I'd say no.
Straight up.
He has not – and I've talked about this.
He has not given me that one game that we could point to and be like, okay, he's capable of doing great things at the quarterback position.
He hasn't had that one game.
And usually you see that despite –
an oc despite and i don't think canada did him any favors but i also don't think kenny pickett had a lot of room for error like when he came in he needed somebody right away from the beginning that was going to get the most out of his talent because i do think he lacks some physical skills now intangible wise i think he's capable of being a fantastic leader he works his butt off he says all the right things and he has that aura about him that he could be a leader but
You can't lead unless you put up the numbers.
These kids won't follow you unless you're going out there balling out.
And they need to see that from Kenny, and we haven't seen it yet.
So I'm afraid that he may not be the guy for us.
You think it's right George puts those guys on blast and nothing comes down the pike with it?
One more time?
Do you think it's right that this is the second time he can demonstrate what we kind of call insubordination, a lack of putting in effort for his teammates?
Do you think it's right he's able to do that and there's no repercussions in the locker room with that?
Not at all.
He hasn't earned that right at all.
He hasn't done anything in this league yet.
Did you see what Jalen said after that?
Yeah, and that hurt my heart because I know Jalen is that – I will block for that dude in a second.
You can just tell by the way he carries himself, the way he runs the ball.
Saw a picture of him yesterday.
Everybody was in sleeves and long pants.
He was in shorts.
He had shorts on, yeah.
That is my guy.
That's one dude I would love to go to war for because I can tell what his mentality is from the beginning.
And so if he's saying those type of things, it's a problem because he knows that he's only in his second year, so he can't really –
lead how he wants to, but I think Jalen Warren is that type of leader, that type of guy.
And it's sad, man, that GP, with all the talent that he has, is throwing guys under the bus and saying what he's saying to the media, blaming the media folks for not knowing football when it comes to nitpicking his effort.
He hasn't done anything in this league.
to deserve that type of leeway.
I think I thought he should have been benched.
I think he's one guy that you need to make an example of.
We'll see what he does today.
Hopefully they had a nice long conversation.
We see a different guy today, but I mean, he's not giving me any hope that he has turned the corner.
And there needs to be consequences and repercussions for some of the things that he's done on the field.
Has to be.
That was Noob's guy coming out of college.
He thought – I thought he was going to be a guy.
He's got the talent for sure.
He's got all the talent in the world.
You see it.
But – What's the antics going on with Coward now?
No.
What would he have done?
He would have been benched.
But I don't think they're using him correctly either, though.
No, not at all.
He should be frustrated.
He should be frustrated, but he needs to go about it in a completely different way.
The lack of effort is not the way to go about the way you're frustrating.
Yeah, because he can't get to that next contract with these numbers he's putting up.
He's losing money.
He's losing money in the NFL.
He's losing endorsement money with the way he's talking in the media.
He is costing himself money.
You know, I scratched my head, Trey, a few years ago when we hired a receivers coach and a line coach from Carolina, which was like the 30th ranked team offensively in the league, and we bring those two dudes in, and where's our team at now with receivers and line?
We're at the bottom, like we're talking about here.
Isn't that a coaching decision to bring in guys that are going to make it better?
Yeah, I don't think so.
Yeah.
I mean, the good O-line coaches are retained.
Nobody lets good O-line coaches go because they are a rare commodity in this league.
Our O-line coaches aren't created equal.
And so we've been going through a revolving door at the O-line coaching position.
And so you want some continuity.
I think, Pat Meyer, with the way that the team ended last year, you saw the improvement.
But
They have a hard ceiling, apparently, when it comes to either his getting the most out of them or just from a talent perspective.
They've hit a hard ceiling.
Brodger came in and added some life to the O-line when we started rushing the ball like we were supposed to.
He's playing out of position.
He should be a left tackle.
Left tackle?
I think, honestly, James Daniels should be playing center.
I don't like Mason Cole there because he has cost us a lot.
In Miami.
Miami.
Huh?
Miami.
Who just cut their number one lineman?
Oh, San Diego.
San Diego.
Just cut their number one lineman.
D-line.
Yeah.
You know, go ahead and bring them in.
Go ahead and bring them in.
Who did San Diego, or who did the Chargers cut?
Sebastian.
Joseph.
Joseph Day.
Yeah.
They just cut.
He just got cut?
Oh, shoot.
We can't afford not to explore that option.
But I will say their best lineman is their left tackle, a Northwestern product, Rashawn Slater.
That's right.
Speaking of Northwestern, you must be intelligent because you got to be smart to go to that place.
You hear me, Trey?
You're muted.
Or you don't want to tell us about Northwestern.
Are we good up top?
Are we good up there?
Check that, Tiz.
We all right?
Yeah.
We're live.
Can you hear us, Trey?
We can't hear you.
I don't know if he can hear us or either way.
Trey.
Can you hear us?
Can you hear us?
Oh, he left us.
Hey, that's good stuff.
Even if he don't come back to us.
I mean, that's good stuff coming from him.
He was straight up about what we've been talking about, too, without throwing Tomlin under the bus, per se.
He didn't throw anybody under the bus.
That was the nice thing about him.
He's saying all this stuff we're saying about him.
It's the coach.
The coach has got to take control.
Nobody's taking control.
That's why I asked that question.
Absolutely.
If the players aren't doing it, who's doing it?
I think Ryan Clark was on the head yesterday.
I really like what he said.
Yeah.
I think from that perspective, though, I think –
Tomlin's getting a little bit too much credit that he goes to another team and builds another team until he takes a giant step back, regathers himself for maybe a year or two.
Kind of like Sean Clayton did.
It took him that year away from the sport to go back to it.
And he didn't look good starting out this year.
We can all agree on Denver not looking good.
But now he's really got Denver in a really good place.
He's done some really good things with them.
You almost need to regather yourself.
They started out 1-5 or 7-7 now.
Yeah.
You know, coaches have to do it because if you really think about it, they're changing their whole lifestyle.
It's just like if you did that to Belichick.
Yeah.
It's obviously going to happen to him if he doesn't retire.
Right.
But Tomlin's going to, and that's the whole thing.
Now you've got to change your whole environment, a whole group of, you know, whatever, you know, new owners.
And that's a big, I imagine it's a big change for, you know, any coach.
You say the message is getting stale.
Yeah.
Oh, it has to be.
There's turnover in that 17 years.
Pittsburgh is amazing.
I don't know about that.
Is it the message or is it the style?
Is it the – Right, right, yeah.
What's the history of that?
I mean, you guys got to go back and look at all those draft picks too.
Right.
You know what I mean?
A lot of those guys weren't – a lot of them years – what was his name?
Colbert.
Yeah.
Colbert, you know, he would have seven picks and he might go two for seven.
So now you got to bring in some other guys to replace the ones he missed.
Yeah.
A lot of his picks were pretty bad.
I'm sorry.
They just showed his last six number one draft picks, including Kenny Pickett, and they're saying they're all failures.
Pretty much, I mean, that's just not a good thing.
And what are you gonna do?
I mean, at this point, hopefully Omar Khan gets it together and gets the Steelers going forward.
But hey, Trey, we really appreciate if you're watching us, we appreciate your time.
And we don't wanna take up more of your time cuz you did that for us.
We'll reach back out to you.
Maybe we can do something around Super Bowl time.
Who knows who's gonna be in the Super Bowl?
Who knows what happens?
That's the one thing about the NFL.
Well, I think we know who's going to be out.
Oh, here we go.
Here we go.
It's Christmas time now.
Tell me who's going to be out.
I want to get some money here.
Who you got?
I got San Fran and Baltimore.
Yeah, who you got?
The matchup is going on Monday.
Monday is a preview of Super Bowl.
Who wins Monday?
Monday, San Fran.
Yeah.
Who you got?
I got Frisco.
I got Frisco and...
I don't know, man.
I think the Bills might make a run.
I agree.
You really think that?
Yeah.
I like that.
I like that.
Oh, my God.
I went round in circles with my sister-in-law.
Did you?
Just a couple days ago.
I went down, yeah.
Josh is done.
I think in that one, it's losing the faith of the quarterback and not connecting.
with his receivers and you know what i mean i don't think there's something going on there because he's in that case when it comes out to it because he's always wanting to throw but the guy can run he's like lamar yeah you know we go back to the the ravens and the 49ers where are you going what would you do i'm not doing ravens i just i'm sorry it's not
It's not that I'm a Steelers fan and I'm not doing Ravens.
I just feel like a lot of the games they're winning are not complete games.
They're either winning it because they're running the ball or passing the ball, but they don't have a complete game plan.
I do love their defense, though.
See, I'm a Ravens fan.
And even in this game, like you said, I'm going to take San Fran for three.
I think they're going to lose because Ravens, I'm a Ravens.
They don't finish the game.
Finish the game.
What's the coaching?
you know, in the box to the guy, you know, down on the ground, what are you missing when you had four minutes?
You know what I mean?
It'll get your shit together, you know, from all the way through the defense, the office, Lamar, because everybody turns to Lamar.
Well, Lamar is going to just bring it down.
Our special guest today is.
It's my, it's my buddy, Joe, Joe Myers.
We call him Kutz.
He's our guest bartender.
He's throwing in his, his knowledge.
I think it's great that,
In his elf shoes, you can't see them, but they're spectacular.
Joe's got like two more parties after he rolls in this one.
I did say I was taking it easy, but I was the bartender.
Yeah.
And that's what I told my wife.
Thanks for inviting me, you guys.
This is amazing.
And hearing this interview, it really puts a lot of light into the Steelers' history.
To me, I love the history of the game.
And where do the Steelers pick up at this point to change a guy that's been in there for 17 years?
That's a lot of years, you guys.
You mold a lot of fences there.
So if they roll with him or not.
You know, the Pittsburgh Steelers have a long, you know, long road, I think, in the next couple of years.
You know, it's going to be fun to watch.
And, you know, like I said, you know, my kickback's always been Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh's always been my fallback team.
Because, you know, in the Ben years, I really liked Pittsburgh.
You know, I was never a New England fan, you know, born, you know, in the New England area.
But, you know, when I moved south, when I moved to Maryland, you know,
It was interesting.
I got lucky.
I bought tickets to the Ravens season, Ravens tickets when I first moved here.
Then I sold them because of the championship.
And after that, I was like, yeah, that's your one and done.
You know what I mean?
But I am a Ravens fan type thing.
You know what I mean?
But when you move here, this area, like you guys say, the DMV has an enormous, great, most fantastic Pittsburgh Steelers fan base.
It's everywhere.
We travel, baby.
The biggest thing, and I'll give you my take on going to the games with the Ravens and the Pittsburgh Steelers, I think they're the best fans overall.
Like every game I went to, both sides, in Pittsburgh or at the Ravens stadium, the fans, I think everybody got along.
We never had, I think the fans are on both sides.
The Ravens were worse than the Pittsburgh Steelers fans.
I think they were really a good bunch.
That was the enjoyable thing, but
Their program, you know, all do is the Pittsburgh prayer, I think, guys, and
We pray for 2024.
I almost wish the Steelers would lose out and go 7-10.
Not because it's going to make that much of a difference where they draft, because 7-10 and 8-8 and all that stuff, or not 8-8, 8-9, it's so close together.
But I think it'll take pressure off of Mike Tomlin.
If Mike Tomlin's coming back to coach this team next year,
One of the reasons I think Bill Collar was successful, when I go back and I look at it, and yes, he was a hard ass.
Yes, those guys respected him.
Yes, it was a different locker room.
Yes, they had a different owner running the team, even though it was from the same family.
But I think one of the things that helped Collar was he had some losing seasons.
And when you have a losing season, you've got to take a look in the mirror.
And you've got to see what the hell you did wrong to have a losing season.
It's like every kid failing our test that we give at school.
You've got to look in the mirror.
It's not necessarily the kids if everyone fails it.
You've got to take a look in the mirror.
And if you keep going 500, 9 and 8, whatever,
You're not looking in the mirror.
You're thinking, oh, I'm this close.
I just need to do the little tweak to get over the top.
And it's not happening that way because you know what?
Everybody who had a losing season is doing more than a little tweak and they're getting themselves further ahead.
When people say, well, people go ahead and tell us, well, if Tom leaves, who are you going to get?
You're going to have a setback.
How do you know that?
How do you know that?
Do you think the Dolphins thought the game was going to be a setback?
Do you think when San Francisco brought Shanahan out there, well, he's a good coach, but we don't know.
No, you don't know what you're getting.
The Steelers didn't know when they got Cowher what they were getting.
They didn't know when they got Mike T what they were getting.
That case in point, I agree.
The other thing is,
Listening to Trey and listening to the guys today on the news and reading and media and stuff.
When he was playing, I felt like it was a team.
I got your back.
Today, I feel like it's a me.
They're about themselves.
It's a corporation.
It's just crazy.
It's changing.
It's totally different.
It is the me, me, me.
We discussed that.
They deflect the pass and they get up and they're going.
or score a touchdown or down by 30 points.
Something else.
It's not about, Hey, you've been there and they're focused on that play instead of meanwhile, you got burnt to play before.
It's weird.
That's weird.
It's all about.
Yeah.
So,
The culture, we talk about the locker room, about the team, about the sport.
I don't think it's just us.
We're not special.
You pointed that out.
We're not special.
It's happening everywhere.
We're just hyper-focused and sensitive on it.
on the black and gold.
Yeah.
It's hard.
Which is really cool because new has come back around to the commanders after being sold San Diego for pretty much the first part of the first year.
I got away.
I just couldn't stand Snyder.
So that was last year.
It was like a couple of years ago.
No, this is the whole thing.
I got away from the commanders because I could not stand Daniel Snyder.
Right.
And I figured if enough people did what I did, he'd have to sell.
Well, what happened?
He sold, right?
We got a new ownership.
All right, I'm back.
I've grown up a Commander's fan.
I was always a Commander's fan while they were Redskins.
You were Redskins.
Yeah.
Who was your favorite Commander of all time?
Redskins?
Joe Riggins.
John Riggins.
John Riggins.
John Riggins.
And he's better than you, Mendenhall.
Better than him.
And I'll give you this.
Better than his brother, Joe.
Since you took your break, you said, well, you know.
And I agree, my heart feels that Dan Snyder thing.
Now, how much chance are you gonna give these new owners in this team, the commanders or whatever name they choose in the future?
As a fan- I'll stick with him.
You'll stick with him?
Yeah, I'll stick with him.
I just think he was such a scumbag, yeah.
He was a fucking scumbag.
What'd you say?
I'll be on Monday nights or Tuesday nights.
And it's, yeah.
And you know, and there's good feelings in the commander, you know,
We'll see.
When I first moved here, it was the first year that, you know, the commanders were, you know, the Redskins at the time won the Super Bowl in the early 90s.
Yeah.
And, you know, but, you know, after it was the same thing.
After they won the Super Bowl, everything went flat.
And then I became a Ravens fan and I stayed with it.
And it's because I bought their tickets.
I was a young guy, you know, my 40s, crazy, you know.
Well, they were fun to follow.
Yeah, they were fun.
Now he's 45.
Yeah.
You're still guilty.
That's just me.
You know what I mean?
Ray did his thing.
He didn't get caught.
I did that too.
I was a kid.
I didn't get caught.
I'm just saying.
As a Pittsburgh fan, I'm sorry.
As a Pittsburgh fan, I have a hard time doing that dance.
Oh, I get it.
When I look in the mirror, I see the Pittsburgh Steelers, old defense.
Now, Lamar is not a quarterback we've ever had, but his character is impeccable.
Honestly, I think he's a great kid.
I think he's done so much for so many people, probably too much for too many people.
And I just have a hard time rooting against him.
And I actually like Harbaugh.
I'm not a big fan of his brother.
You can tell your brother that.
But he's coming to Pittsburgh.
He's coming to Pittsburgh.
I tell you what, Toby.
He's kind of an expert.
AFC North brother, brother, brother.
He then rolled his card with this whole college thing.
So be careful about the brother now.
He might come back NFL.
We'll see.
Hey, guys, let's go ahead and move on a little bit.
Let's talk about those Week 16 matchups.
I've only got three matchups that I think Bob will want to talk about.
We'll go Ravens and Niners at the end.
Let's go ahead and go Lions and Vikings right out of the gates because Dan Campbell is starting to get a lot more ink about what he did.
And you know who's getting ink for those guys is Bob Johnson, their offensive coordinator.
He came out this week and he said he wanted $15 million if somebody wanted to sign him as a head coach.
Good for him.
Yeah.
What do you think of that?
Badger Bob Johnson.
I don't think that's bad.
If you want to pay my garage for $2.2 million, you do it.
That's what I'm saying.
The money's out there, bro.
You're right, John.
That's a good point.
As a coaching, he has something for somebody to offer him.
Right.
Yeah, you're right.
Don't do all this.
They'll get mad.
What are you saying?
Defer that in international money?
Right, and then move away.
Shorty becomes Italian in two minutes.
I'll tell you who I like.
I do like Jameer Gibbs'
carrying the rock away.
I know they want, I know they want, what's his name, Montgomery?
Montgomery.
Or David Montgomery, yeah.
I know they want to give him more, more touches.
What are you, what's that?
I'll tell you, Jameer Gibbs is really choosing himself, in my opinion.
Oh yeah, he has.
I mean, like we said, Gibbs is more of an outside, Montgomery is more of an inside, sweeter side.
Sweeter side.
You know what I mean?
It's like, boats give the running backs are inside the tap, but they only use one correctly.
Right?
Well, you know, Najee just doesn't have good vision.
Vision's bad, bro.
There's the hole he goes over there.
Yeah, you've seen that one where he came through.
There was a crowd here.
There was no one here.
He went that way.
I know I've said this a few times to you guys.
I'm very impressed with Jerry Goff.
I really am.
Here's a guy who was lost in the shuffle out in L.A.
They make a swap.
I don't think they even expected what that swap was going to be.
I really don't.
I don't think anybody knew what that was going to pan out to be.
But I think the swap would have been good for Stafford and Goff.
And I think Goff earned himself a nice payday.
I think he's earned himself a longer time in the league because of what he's done.
Yeah.
He got kind of thrown under the bus there by LA.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
I agree.
He's a good game manager.
I mean, the Vikings.
Is he not?
I'm pretty impressed with what the Vikings have been doing without Kirk Cousins.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
Starting to lead with yards.
And that's where I go to that.
You know, the Vikings have really stayed team.
Team solid, you know, because, you know, I kind of admired, you know, Cousins when he left the command, you know, whatever they were.
And then I said, God, I really like that guy.
And he found success.
He was really doing well, picking the Ravens over there, the Vikings up, you know, and I'm like, fuck, this guy's moving along.
This is a really nice quarterback.
This is doing good.
But the Vikings is a solid team.
Everybody worries, you lose a quarterback?
Yeah, of course.
Shit goes to pot.
They stayed solid.
I'm like, oh.
Lucy said to me for two years about Kirk Cousins.
He's not a big Kirk Cousins fan, but Kirk Cousins puts up the numbers.
He really does.
It's crazy when you look at the numbers he's done.
More of a fan after that TV show.
Quietly, you know what I mean?
That special was really cool.
I'll tell you what, he really won me over on that show.
He's a good dude.
He's just a good dude.
Was that on Netflix?
It was on Netflix.
If you haven't checked it out, we probably said this before.
If you haven't checked it, what's it called?
Quarterbacks?
Quarterbacks, something, yeah.
Yeah, they had on, they did Mahomes, they did Kirk Cousins, and they did Marcus Mariota.
Hi, I'm the wife.
Special delivery.
Mom had gotten some of your mail.
Oh, sweet, thank you so much.
You're on the podcast.
Appreciate it.
Give everybody a shout out.
exactly said merry christmas i felt like this was mr rogers mr mcfeely just showed up on the set but you know like mario was he was probably the most disappointing yeah why was he on there yeah but kirk cousins he's really a family man he's a very christian driven yeah the one thing i learned about kirk because his wife calls the shots
Yeah.
In the huddle.
In and out of the huddle.
No way.
No, but the very little scene I did love with him and his wife.
Oh, when they were doing the plays?
And they were rehearsing the plays.
That woman knew the football game.
That was so cool.
She had a sheet, and she was reading each play, and then he would have to repeat it.
So it was like him getting it in the mic just to practice because it's so complicated.
The West Coast offense is very complicated.
It's a lot of – not complicated scheme-wise, but it –
verbiage-wise, it's very heavy.
And I'm not comparing, Rasheen.
I am not comparing.
But guys like that and Marino and guys who can just sling it and do phenomenal stuff like that, offense out the roof, but they can't win it.
It's a team-oriented sport.
It's a team-oriented sport.
You give them all individual accolades and burn my eyebrows with that fire.
You're going to buy it.
You're buying it.
But
It's a big sport.
If you think about it, yeah.
It sucks because as a fan, as a sports fan, you want to see these guys win.
I never in a million years would have thought Marino wouldn't have had a ring.
Yeah.
Right.
And it sucks.
We're going back to the Super Bowl.
And it's going to suck for – Justin Herbert.
Yeah.
Justin Herbert is going to be in Pittsburgh next year.
I think Herbert – Greatest of all time.
You know the – Without a ring?
You know something – Greatest of all time without a ring?
Marino.
No doubt.
You know, one of the weirdest things I read about about two years ago, somebody wrote this article about guys moving around and shit like that.
And they had Justin Herbert ended up in Pittsburgh.
Really?
And I was kind of traded.
Yes.
There's no way.
I just missed it.
I dismissed it.
For Tomlin?
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
No way they trade him.
I dismissed it for Tomlin.
The more things go on, the more I'm like, oh, it really makes sense.
He's not winning anything out there, bro.
Piggins would love that shit.
He'd shut his mouth up.
Piggins, shut your mouth.
I'm on it.
I like that.
I think they got to utilize Piggins better, though.
I agree, but you know what?
You just said it.
There was a lot of them saying it.
We all said it.
He doesn't run the route tree.
Outside the numbers.
He doesn't know the route tree.
You don't know that.
They don't ask him to.
He only goes outside the numbers.
He doesn't know the route tree.
He should better run a curl.
What?
effectively yeah i mean like just running out there and turning around that ain't effective right okay okay well do you ever see him come across the middle of the day every now and then yeah last week yes let's get to that dallas game all right all right all right let's go ahead and go cowboys back in the scenes we got we got to reel these guys in we we got sidetracked you know that happens all the time cowboys and dolphins cowboys and dolphins
You got the Fins?
I got Young Dolph.
I got the Fins.
I just think they got it.
I think Tariq's coming back.
He didn't say 100%.
He was warming up last week.
He could have.
Yeah, he could have.
They wanted to save him for this week.
This is going to be one of those weird games where the Cowboys come back.
They play well.
Yeah.
It would be a win.
You know what I mean?
Like, I think everyone's going to bet against it.
But both teams have played that the last two weeks.
It's like Miami has not been that full hitting what you're expecting out of Miami.
And the same with the Cowboys.
I need Tua and Tyreek for fantasy football.
It's in Miami tomorrow.
So you think you're going to win against Tyreek?
Yeah.
See, that's what you need.
Yeah.
Reek the Freak got seven kids and seven different women.
Yes, he does.
He ain't caring about playing football.
My man's caring about where the next kid's coming from.
The next hike.
And he just got married.
He's got a nice butt.
What is this, cocaine?
Cocaine bear?
You look like cocaine bear over here.
You sniff cocaine bear.
That's powdered sugar, right?
What is this?
Oh, shit.
Okay.
Big shout out to Big Juicy over here.
Jeez.
It's going to be a wild show.
Matt, this dude's drinking the Big Juicy.
You know what happens when that happens.
Scotty, we miss you, man.
Scotty's vodka.
We had him.
We wanted Scotty here.
Scotty will join us.
If you've never had Scotty's vodka, big shout out to Scotty.
Keep it in the bottle, not in the bowl.
You drink that shit out of the bowl.
They lace it in something.
I don't know.
That tore me up.
Hey, by the way, my man Joe makes the best homemade wine and the best homemade moonshine you will ever have.
Oh, wow.
Ever, ever have.
I was going to bring some.
I didn't bring it.
I should have brought some of the apple pie.
Joe's an award-winning winemaker.
Thank God, man.
A couple years in a row here at the Frederick Fair.
Hey, I tell you what, we had that Scotty's and the moonshine.
I might miss Christmas this year.
You don't need to be friends with Joe.
I didn't have to drop no money.
Actually, you know, the quick way, six to eight weeks.
Really?
Actually, so tomorrow I'm mating.
So my first time, I've never made a Pinot Noir.
Okay.
So I'm making a Pinot Noir.
I'm going to rack it tomorrow.
We're going to let it sit a couple days.
We're going to bottle it.
But that stuff, you know, I'm not going to let you guys touch it for a year.
You know, it's like all my stuff that we're drinking.
As a matter of fact, Mark's going to get lucky.
It's like I have some Nalvec that I made last December that we're drinking now.
It kind of led, you know, it's a fun, it's one of the funnest hobbies I've ever gotten into.
You know, I'm not an alcoholic, which is great, but I am a fucking warrior.
Sorry.
The moonshine thing, you guys, you know, I think America needs to, you know.
Embrace it, huh, Jeff?
If the Italians can make it super quick and make you feel happy, why can't you do that in America?
He makes limoncello, too.
Like limoncello I have in my fridge.
You come at my house, ask Mark.
You come at my house, this is how it works.
First thing we do, we do a shot.
No matter what it is, it's going to be Limoncello or some type of moonshine.
I'm sorry.
If I'm running low on moonshine, I'll just bring out the bourbon or the whiskey or the vodka.
You do a shot.
It's because it brings you together.
Joe, where do you live and how long does it take to get here?
What the hell?
You son of a bitch.
What are we doing here?
We actually walk the dog here.
I walk my dog here.
You're not an alcoholic, but we are.
I'm not an alcoholic.
I'm not an alcoholic.
enough of this yeah so we made peach moonshine so my girlfriend and i we would go to deep creek right from right from uh you know the amish folks up in deep creek brought them down and you sit there and you killed me you you know you cook them up you know you throw your freaking ever clear in there and you slap it in the ass and next thing you know you're like oh
I got something going on here.
You know, recipes, I think with anything, with cooking and wine and liquor, booze, moonshine, you put your recipe in it, you put your love and your thoughts in it.
Boom.
Boom.
That's what I told him.
Big shout out to Dino for sticking with this, guys.
He makes all that booze.
Yeah.
Taking him down the right path.
Yeah, you know, it's just.
you enjoy i think you when you bring family in and friends uh your friends become your family yeah it's one of those things that uh i've learned in the last four or five years
dandelion oh i made you oh my god i'll give you a dandelion story yeah you know right here you guys i i remember this like it was yesterday though don't wake me up christ i was 13. my mother made dandelion wine yeah that we look i picked more dandelions it made my fingers yellow the whole night mom what are we doing with this we're making wine what good is it for me i'm 13. right it wasn't the case of course we make the dandelion wine it goes for weeks
Well, I find a little jar, those little balls like that, that size.
Drink that thing.
13 and a half years old.
A couple months ago, I bought a thing.
In my own hometown, I was lost.
Fuck.
I was, drank that shit.
Who knows where I went when I did go there.
I woke up.
I'm like, where am I at?
Got home and my mother's like, what the fuck?
I don't know.
I'm going to take a swing at it.
I think there's not a lot of dandelions.
Joe makes such good wine.
I keep trying to talk him into turning his garage into a winemaking place.
We went to this place.
This man is incredible.
Him and his wife are incredible.
Listen to this podcast.
We're going to have that episode on in two weeks.
Anyway, this man makes wine in his basement.
Like that's what they started.
It's such good wine.
They're incredible.
But his wine is ridiculous too.
All right, let's go back to Cowboys and Dolphins.
We just went completely down another fucking trail.
Cowboys and Dolphins.
Mike, who you got?
I'm going Cowboys.
I think they're going to come back this week.
I think they'll have a good week.
It's weird.
They shit the bed big time last week.
It is.
Yeah, but the Dolphins didn't throw it out there just as well.
No, the Dolphins kicked ass last week.
Dolphins was 30-0, wasn't it?
Yeah, they kicked ass last week.
That's your freaking cousin.
Where is that bitch?
I'm going to go meet him.
And the Cowboys only scored 10 points.
I thought Dak was back.
Dak is not back.
What's going on?
Go look at who they played for Dak to be back.
You say that.
Last two games at the Cowboys, look who they played.
Look, I'm kind of with noobs.
I think the NFC is much more.
dominant in a lot of ways than the AFC.
I don't know, when we talked about that, you know, who's going to make the run in the Super Bowl.
I agree with San Francisco.
I think Coach Shanahan.
I think Coach Fleury.
Shout out to Brian Fleury.
We love that dude.
I think those dudes are in a great spot.
I don't know any AFC.
It could be anybody as far as I'm concerned.
I like Buffalo.
I do.
I think this is what they need.
Instead of running away with the division like they did in the last year, I think they need to hit a brick wall and figure it out.
When we stumble, how do we get ourselves back up and keep going?
I'm a big Josh Allen fan.
I'm not going to lie.
I think Josh Allen is one of the best quarterbacks in the league.
over the last 10 years.
Tier 8?
I do.
I think he's fantastic.
Yeah, he's Tier 8.
Yeah, he's Tier 8.
Who else?
Tier 8, Mahomes.
Allen.
Who'd you say?
Allen, Josh Allen.
Brock Purdy.
You guys go ahead and say what you want.
I just, I just asked him from Iowa state and that boy is smart and Shanahan knows how to work that boy.
He knew how to work that boy so well.
They traded away a guy that they gave up a shit ton for to get him on board.
And then they traded him away and trade lands.
I think Brock Purdy is a hell of a quarterback.
I think that boy is very smart.
Brock shout out to you, my man.
And shout out to you.
Great quarterback.
Tier A. Yeah, I think he's Tier A. He's going to win MVP.
Or it's going to be a slit.
I think that's when he gets to be Tier A. No.
When you win that MVP.
Okay, I agree with you.
But he's going to win it unless he falls apart.
Josh Allen didn't win MVP.
How's he Tier A?
Who?
He said you get to be Tier A when you win the MVP.
I said when he wins it.
I'm not saying that that's my criteria.
I got you.
Purdy?
Yeah.
Chair A?
I like Purdy.
I think he's a B plus, A minus guy.
Here we go.
He's like really close.
Yeah.
He's on the cusp.
I'm going to give you that.
He's on the cusp.
On the side.
I say he's on the cusp.
He's on the head, in my mind.
I think he's really smart.
I went two good years.
Yeah.
I say he's on the cusp.
He's surrounded by a lot of talent.
One and a half good years.
He's got a great coordinator.
I think on top of that, he has a great head coach who can coach either side of the ball and keep either side of the ball level-headed.
Yeah.
You know, I just – and not to go astray from all that shit, but he's not a game manager.
He's not a game manager.
Yes, he is.
We need to discuss that.
Yeah, we'll go there.
I really want to give a shout-out to the Houston Texans.
I think what D'Amico Ryans has done there, I have the utmost respect for what he's done there.
A couple of years under Shanahan, just understanding what – you know, the young Shanahan kid, Kyle Shanahan, I understand –
Go back about four years ago.
Brian Fleury was on my show, and I'm going to reach out to Brian and come back on after the season because I know Brian's really busy right now.
But, you know, one of the things Brian told me was Kyle Shanahan develops a family atmosphere.
I see that culture.
Yeah.
That's the culture.
And he said, you know, because I talked to him about going with the other head coach that went to –
I forget who it was at the time, but it went up to the Jets.
And he said, I didn't even consider that.
Oh, the D coordinator.
Yeah.
Yeah, Salah.
Yeah, he said, I didn't even consider that.
He said, I love coaching for Kyle.
He said, Kyle makes us feel like we're all part of his family.
We're a family.
We do things together.
We're tight.
And this is a guy from Montgomery County you're talking about.
Went to Seneca Valley.
That was a fantastic athlete.
Yeah, you keep saying Brown.
I'm thinking Flores.
No, no, not Flores.
Brian Fleury played what?
Fleury.
He played safety and quarterback at Seneca Valley.
Seneca Valley, yep.
Shit, 1,000 years ago, but he's a really good dude, and he has done great work in his way.
He coached up here at Towson.
I mean, he's just a good dude.
We had a long conversation on my podcast, and we talked for a while afterwards, and I wish him nothing but the greatest things in his career, but I would love to talk to him more after San Francisco wins the Super Bowl this year.
Number six.
That's all I feel.
Number six?
Yeah, that's all I feel.
One for the thumb.
That's all I feel.
One for the thumb.
I think they weathered that little bump that you weathered.
The other thumb.
And they figured it out.
I do.
I do.
The rosters.
They've built very well.
Fucking loaded.
They've done a great job with their rosters.
Loaded.
They even picked up Chase Young.
Yes.
That was a complete turd.
Right, yeah.
It was a turd.
It is a turd.
But look at him now.
You know what I mean?
At times, he's very good.
Give him that chance, yeah.
You give him the chance, you see how it goes.
Who's the next game?
That's it.
The next game is Ravens and Niners.
Ravens and Niners.
Ravens and Niners.
Speaking of top tier quarterbacks, who's top?
I think he's a – Who's top tier?
I think he's doing the top tier stuff under the radar this year.
An MVP from the Ravens?
Lamar?
I'm just asking you.
Can you know – I mean, he – I mean, what?
I don't like Jackson.
No, that's not it.
I love Lamar Jackson.
If you listen to what I say on here, I love him.
I think he's – I watched the game last week.
I think his character is over the top.
Where I don't think Lamar has it is he's not a passing quarterback.
I would say I think he's getting into it.
I think he's getting into it, though.
I think he's a decent passing quarterback.
I don't think he's an elite passing quarterback.
He lost Mark Andrews.
He did.
But I don't think so.
There's number 80, I forget his name.
Likely.
Likely.
I say likely.
He's been stepping up.
Well, I thought so too.
For three consecutive weeks after Mark Andrews, I had him on my fantasy team, he was not number one.
And it made me scratch my head and think.
My tight ends are all number one.
Hawkinson and Laporta.
Yeah, sure.
They're all right.
That's a minor one.
Oh, okay.
We sure meant it all.
That's bullshit.
And you'll have to see this weekend.
I mean, do you think about Lamar's going to face up a good team this weekend?
So I think this is a good weekend for me.
Like I said, I have a Ravens fan.
Their defense is phenomenal.
If you're going to be Super Bowl bound, you better tell me this weekend.
That's right.
Because if you don't tell me this weekend, then I got no faith in you.
You know, it's a Ravens fan.
Oh, hell yeah.
You think about it.
you you today is your laying your eggs you know you you better be putting your nest on you know your butt on the nest one of the funniest things i've read recently and i don't know if you guys have read it you got in your hand and i've read it from two different people right oh we got some guest appearances that's like now she forgot the pizza all right the war man behind the plan oh that's okay um one of the funniest things no don't go ahead now
It's just the unfortunate piece of doing a lot of podcasts.
My children just, yeah.
One of the funniest things I've read recently has been that Philadelphia is really unhappy with Jalen Hurst.
Yeah, you know I saw that this week.
I read it twice.
I read it two different times.
Lack of confidence.
Two different people.
Lack of confidence.
I can guarantee you A.J.
Brown got something to do with this.
He's not in their – What did you say?
They want someone vocal.
They want someone in their face.
They want someone sick.
So they want somebody Philly, and Philly sucks.
And Philly, like he's on the sideline, I guess.
after watching a Steeler game.
That's how I feel.
But he's got to get out there and do something.
And I'm like, what do you want him to do?
Maybe he's not an in-your-face kind of guy.
He's not.
He's not.
He's a self-reflecting guy, and you can see that.
He's like, okay, I shit the bed on this play.
I'm going to do something, and this is what I'm going to do.
Good quarterback.
I think he's great.
Great quarterback.
I think he's great.
He gets you to tier A or tier B. Tier B. Definitely tier B. B plus.
B plus, yeah.
He's right in the middle.
I like him a lot.
I would love him on my team.
Me too.
No doubt.
Me too.
But I'm just not making him elite.
I don't think he's elite.
No, he's not elite.
And I don't know where this is coming from.
I mean, I know they lost three.
I know they lost three in a row.
But...
They were high on him.
He took them to the Super Bowl last year.
Listen, Philadelphia Inquirer.
Philadelphia started this shit internally.
Hey, listen, double.
My dad would have said, but the Philadelphia Inquirer doesn't realize when they have a special talent in their locker room.
You know, like he was a special talent.
Tip him out.
Listen, Donovan McNabb did not win a Super Bowl, but he won the NFC Championship four times in a row.
Is it his fault?
No.
Get him out.
He goes to Kansas City.
How many Pro Bowls is he in?
Who?
McNabb.
I don't know.
We don't do Pro Bowl.
We do a lot.
Pro Bowl is like Billboard magazine.
Nobody gives a damn about that.
You mean Playboy magazine.
I'm just saying.
Are you the inside?
Or are you the centerfold?
During his time in that, when McNabb was at his best, he was pretty damn good.
Yes, he was.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, with or without the chunky soup advertisements, he was really good.
Yeah, Bob would be good, too.
He'd be good.
He was okay.
He was tier B. McNabb?
Yes.
McNabb?
Yeah, B-minor B. So you're saying McNabb is like Hertz?
Or Hertz is like McNabb?
Who would you take?
I would take Hertz over McNabb.
And then you look at it, look at how that program changed.
In today's game or in yesteryear's game?
Today's game.
Today's game I'm taking.
McNabb.
Because he was smarter?
He was bigger.
He is bigger.
He went to Syracuse.
Syracuse.
I can see that.
He was a dude.
Yeah.
But today's program is so much more running.
It's just, you know.
Those guys back then didn't run as much, I don't think, because of what they do now.
It's funny because some quarterbacks fucking haul ass now.
I read some dude.
Back in the day, you know.
I read some dude put something out on X talking about how.
I forget exactly who it was he was speaking of in the league today.
Maybe it was Lamar Jackson.
And he was saying he's the greatest ever running quarterback.
I said, no, you have no clue.
Lamar, Randall Cunningham.
I got listed like five years.
He never responded to my shit because he knew he was stupid.
He knew he was stupid.
He didn't run on necessity.
He ran where he could.
He's that moon.
He's that moon.
He didn't run.
You're a passer.
You're a passer.
Bo Jackson was that tack thrower that could play no matter what you pulled.
He ran where he could.
he was nowhere near as good as those running quarterbacks running the ball yeah he was a pure like you know and even today number one when you're a multi-sport athlete
He was a basketball player, not a football player.
It was just the greatest thing.
Guys, one player I need to watch out for in the Ravens and 49ers game.
Who's going to be a difference maker?
Fred Warner.
I'm going to go with...
McCaffrey.
Yeah, Christian McCaffrey.
I'm going Debo.
Straight Debo.
I'm saying Fred Warner.
It starts with a D. I love Fred Warner, though.
Spying Lamar Jackson, watching where he is.
Yeah, just watch his eyes.
Getting after his ass, because if you can't control him, I think the Ravens defense is going to recapture him.
I'm excited for the Ravens.
I think the Ravens.
Yeah, absolutely.
All right.
No, that's Christmas night.
No.
One player you should watch out for in the Lions-Vikings game.
Laporta.
No, no, no, no.
Sun God.
I'm in.
Yeah, Sun God.
Who?
Hawkinson?
Huh?
Sun God.
St.
Brown.
I'm on St.
Brown.
That's who I was going to say.
I'm on St.
Brown.
Hawkinson.
Hawkinson.
His name is – that's what it means.
I'm not sure.
He's a local guy.
All right.
One player you should watch out for in Dallas and Dalton.
Tyreek the Freak.
I say Tyreek.
Freak out.
I agree with him.
Tyreek.
Freak out.
Because Tyreek.
Because if he is not healthy.
La Freak.
Tyreek.
It's going to be the other way.
It's going to blow on somebody, dude.
If he's healthy, he'd be all right.
Who you got, Joe?
I don't know what this week.
It's going to be interesting.
I haven't heard from the last three weeks.
At all.
Three weeks?
I don't even know Michael Parsons.
Hey, I'm going to go be a guy, man.
Come on.
What's that mean?
That means we got, yeah.
I don't play favorites, yeah.
He don't get a favorite because he's from PA.
Yes, he do.
No, he doesn't.
Okay.
No, he does not.
Who doesn't get a favorite up on the hill?
He don't get a break.
He does not get a break because he's from PA.
Okay.
I don't give anyone a pass.
Who played for the Jets?
I'll throw this at you guys at this podcast.
How come in this area, you guys live in this area, it's always been the DMV.
How come we don't call it the MVP?
Why can't we add Pennsylvania?
We're 30 minutes from Pennsylvania.
I know, right?
There's more Pennsylvania fucking Pittsburgh fans in Frederick than probably fucking Northern Virginia.
Yeah.
What is that?
You're saying change it to the DMV?
DMV.
DMVP.
DMVP.
The people down here get confused.
Who's the DMVP?
Pennsylvania is fucking 30 minutes away, just like West Virginia.
Wait, Frederick's back in the DMV, is it?
DMV.
I think it's DMV.
I thought it was only where the subway goes, the metro.
DMV.
My guy this week for the Cowboys and Dolphins game is going to be, you ready?
McDaniel.
The coach?
I'm a huge, I'm a huge McDaniel fan.
Are you watching on Netflix?
Look, I'm a huge Mike McDaniel fan.
That boy is- He got some cool shoes.
That's good, because he's not huge.
He has a nice sneaker collection.
I think he just understands, like his brain understands.
Is he football?
And he's two steps ahead of everybody else.
I just think he's good.
I think he's really good.
Same with Kyle.
But Kyle grew up in that family.
McDaniel didn't grow up in that family.
McDaniel made that family in his mind.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, that's where he is.
So, big bite.
And the all-coach for the Redskins at one point.
Yeah.
Right.
You know what it makes you think about that show?
Oh, yeah.
He was chubby then.
Not really chubby, but.
Yes.
We've seen footage of him.
Hey, it's bowl season, y'all.
It's bowl season.
Watch Christmas week.
Who are you watching this week?
The Gasparilla Bowl.
Yeah.
a Florida game somewhere?
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't really get to the bowls until the big ones.
Like, you know, like New Year's.
Yeah, like around because we're usually we usually go out to parties.
So in between when we get back from dinner, we got to the hotel right now.
Yeah, there's a ball right now.
We should be watching the Troy first.
Arkansas State versus North Carolina.
Yeah, I want to see Detroit.
I want to see Maryland, how they do against Auburn.
Yeah, I'd like to see that one.
Jam you and Air Force.
That sounds like a fun game.
Jam you and Air Force is on.
Okay.
He's getting ready for the pros.
Take a bowl, ain't fucking making it to the pros.
Hey, any Maryland fans?
You know, as far as that goes, they said actually if they release him, if Alabama and Maryland release him, he can go to another school next year.
He needs to.
Wow.
Another Big Ten school?
Does that count towards this Big Ten all-time yardage?
He's like top five in the Big Ten all the time.
Mike, I'm not sold on him.
I am not either.
I think he's decent.
Kane, you pissed me off, but I think he sold your career out the last few years.
You made a bad mistake last year.
How about the LSU-Wisconsin game?
That's going to be actually a good game.
No, that would be fun to watch.
That's our new thing now.
Whenever we don't like it.
Who's Ohio State?
That's what my dad did.
That's where we're going.
I know.
Ohio State.
Penn State, Mississippi.
yes have you watched them play no they are explosive their receivers are legit yeah yeah you'll see two they have one they have one that is like yeah i agree two top traffic two or three that's the peach that's the peach bowl by the way that'd be exciting i've been to the peach but not the bowl um i've been uh ohio state missouri
Really?
I don't know.
It could go either way.
I think Ohio State.
I don't know who's going to win.
I'm just not excited to see it.
I'm not excited to see it.
I don't want to see that.
Georgia?
That's the game right there.
Who?
Who?
Florida State and Georgia.
Two teams knocked out by Alabama.
Because, listen, Florida State keeps wanting to leave the ACC.
I don't know why.
Money.
But they're not going to do anything in each other's leagues.
You're right.
Right, Mark?
You agree?
Florida State's not going to be playing in other leagues.
You better stay where you can win.
Florida State said, oh, I'm going to go out of the ACC.
I'm suing you.
I'm leaving you.
Go.
All right.
See you.
Where are they going?
But we said that about Barrett.
Those are like six.
But it was ridiculous.
I don't know that they win every game.
They beat Vanderbilt.
They beat South Carolina.
South Carolina.
Florida.
But yes, that's it.
And that's where it is.
Yeah, that's it.
They're going to lose.
Yes.
So you want to go six and five and go to the Mayo Bowl every year?
Okay.
Mayo Bowl.
Cricket Bowl.
They got it.
The walk is double.
We'll see you on Apple Ridge Road.
They got to get a new, like, shtick.
I ain't dumping mayonnaise on myself.
That's what they're going to be doing.
Coach Norvell, get ready for the mayonnaise.
That's terrible.
That's terrible.
That's terrible.
You did well.
I'll throw up if you pour vanities on me.
So talking to some college coaches, a lot of them are just – they're playing their younger guys in the bowls.
That's good.
They're like building for next year.
Yeah, it's the first step.
You don't get nothing to lose.
I think that's leading to the next question, right?
The next question just talks about the NIL.
Oh, I thought it was about – Not the NIL.
About the guys not playing.
Guys opting out.
Guys opting out, right?
Yep.
Yeah.
And that's an interesting point.
I think it's good.
Let's build for the future.
Yes.
If you don't want to play, screw you.
We're going to build for the future.
Give them that experience.
Yep.
I like it.
That's it.
I'm with you.
That's interesting.
Yes.
But if you are one of the guys that's on a full scholarship and you brought money to my university because you're on a full scholarship and you're on NIL and we're paying you, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I don't know.
I'm just so indifferent on that whole concept of, like, I'm opting out of playing in the damn bowl.
Like, I'm so indifferent on that.
Because why?
Pickens didn't play.
Or Pickens.
Pickens.
Because why?
It's hurting his draft stock.
Well, he's doing a great job.
He's doing a great job.
Thanks for saving that bowl game.
But what's your reasoning for it?
No, I just- Cuz I don't wanna get hurt like you said.
Right.
Mike's a Wake Forest fan.
How do you think he felt last year when Sam Hartman decided to opt out of the bowl?
And then go to Notre Dame.
Yeah, he wanted to see Wake Forest win.
Really?
I missed that part.
Yeah, he wanted to see Wake Forest win, and he wanted to see – no, there's more Luke besides you, right?
He wanted to see Wake Forest win.
Was it a money thing?
I don't know.
I'm so indecisive.
That's where the kids are at now.
You know, the thing is that there's no more real passion in the heart of what – if you're going to make a movie – It's in my backyard.
Let me get the boy to do it.
You're a brand.
Well, essentially, right?
I'm Sam Hartman.
I played for four years at Wake Forest.
Now I'm a brand.
And now Notre Dame's going to pay me a million dollars to go play there.
I'm going to take that million dollars.
When can you ever get that money again?
I'm thinking it's NIL is going to make it like MLB.
This is going to be wild and wild.
Wild, wild west.
Yes, it already is.
Yeah.
But the interesting thing is the impact.
So you look at the impact on the smaller colleges and you look at the impact on like D2s.
So what colleges are doing now, Rasheem?
So they're recruiting less, like big-time colleges are recruiting less guys, right?
This is the sell.
So say I'm –
Central Connecticut State, right?
Yeah.
Who we know well.
There's some guys we've had play there.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
My sell from them now is come to our school, play early, and then transfer out after two years.
Yep.
Get some film.
We will get you filmed.
You'll start for us, and then you can go play big time after us.
And you know what happens with that?
Can I add a little?
How do you market?
How do you make that mold?
So what you do is when you motivate those guys to come play for you, you become more successful at that level for at least two years.
And guys are like, fuck, yeah, I'm going to go there.
I'm going to win for two years, and I'm going to go on and play somewhere else, and I'm going to go to the league.
I'm going to make a big end out of it all.
So there comes this change.
It's kind of like when Prop 48 was in place, and you went to a Juco or like a Kiskin Prep or something like that, knowing that fully well you were going to go on and play at this level, playing for this team, and this is what you were going to have the opportunity to do.
Thank you.
Where did Terry go?
Where is he?
But, you know, you get that mentality, and it gives you the opportunity, but it's just at a different level.
So, Mark, I'll kick back on that.
So if you think about these young guys doing that right there.
Yeah.
So the decision is –
So where does the decision is made of having your parents?
And, you know, there's more of just that individual young youth guy wanting to make that, you know, that team.
Yeah.
What his goals are and his aspirations to where you have two parents that say, hey, wait a minute, dude, I'm not sure I want you to go to Notre Dame or, you know, I'd rather you play for this.
you know you're you're throwing reality into a young young young guy's life you know to make the big league yeah like if i was you know if i got a kid that's going to make the nfl and i know this when he's 13. you know your reality changes and you do start knowing when they're 13 14 15. yes 13. i'm telling you 13. look business and i know where it starts
But, you know, how do you as a parent guide those kids to make that right decision in college?
Because now it's so fast.
It's like I said earlier.
I'm going to give you $2.2 million to paint my garage.
You know what you're going to do?
You're going to be painting all day.
Paint the hell out of it.
That's right.
Paint all day.
Sistine Chapel, that thing.
That's exactly right.
Michelangelo.
So the thing also now, though, is with the portal,
it's not as big a deal like when you sign with somebody it's not that big a deal no just one just one maybe it's it's not that if you if you say you sign with the school that it's not a great fit yeah go leave yeah you have a year yeah there's no cut yeah you're right it's not a big
It used to be.
Yeah, it used to be.
But it's like that.
But we had that in our sport.
That's a job, bro.
When you commit to a team, you're a fucking team.
Yeah, I started with Penn State.
I'm a Penn State guy for life.
Now, dude, I'm taking the garage.
Joey was a beast runner growing up.
He was a beast runner.
From the cops?
What?
What are you talking about?
I tried to go to the Olympics in 1987.
I tried to go to the 88 marathon for Seoul, Korea.
He would never tell you this.
The marathon?
But I just know.
What the hell are you thinking?
I can't run long distances.
Let me tell you, now at 59, I can tell you.
I get winded by the bathroom.
Where do you think I've been?
I'm out of breath.
We were wondering where the hell you were.
Where we at?
The script.
Because we don't do that.
I just don't.
For me, these dudes opting out of the bowl games.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's a different world.
Yeah.
It pays a different picture watching the bowl game.
I mean, I just.
I don't know.
Even if it was a cat child.
Smoke a bowl game.
Take it.
Karina won.
Fucking bowl.
Let's go.
Yeah.
It's hard to believe we're at the Christmas Joy part of the show, which is the end part of the show.
Oh, yeah.
I'm going to go ahead and rock the circle.
We've got some favorites we're going to talk about.
Joe, favorite food at Christmas?
Oh, come on, Joe.
You know, and it was an old, you know, it's interesting because I grew up Canadian and there was this stuff called, it was a seven layer meat pie.
And it was seven layers of wild meat.
And as a kid, I was a food whiz.
But it had deer and bear and moose and rabbit.
So it was a seven-layered pie.
But I hated it.
I hated the shit.
I hated the shit.
But what I loved about it is that it was the meat out of all of it, like all the different game meats.
So I would have to say it was that pie.
That was your favorite?
Yep.
Let's do this again.
I look forward to eating all that.
Let's do this again.
Give me the meats.
There.
So it's bear, moose, bear, moose, partridge, you know.
Partridge!
Partridge in a pear tree!
Everything we had in that, everything we had that seven layers, we got it ourselves.
Like, as a kid growing up, I ate rabbits a lot because I shot the fuck, shoot that motherfucker up.
I mean, it's just the border of Maine and Canada.
Oh, so you found all that shit up there.
I'm from the city of Pittsburgh.
I don't know what a portrait is.
A portrait's family.
Yeah, right.
There's four or five of them.
There's four of them.
There's portraits.
You probably like to wear those.
I do.
But it's just different than that.
The cartoon version, too.
I have the older system, sorry.
Oh.
We need a crazy-ass punch.
It seems like everybody dropped their fifth or something in that bowl.
Oh, yeah.
That's Scotty's vodka.
That's Scotty's vodka down at the UMD Kelsey.
I had a little bit of nothing.
Who bought your favorite food at Christmas?
I'll just go simple.
Keep it simple.
Pumpkin pie.
are you making it or are you buying it uh somebody in my family okay so me being the old straight up dago that i am
Yeah.
Shout out to you, big man.
Yeah, brother.
I'm ready to be shit ass trucking.
Fuck a big spelt in the fryer.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
He said, I'm going to clean these sons of bitches just to get out of the house and have a couple beers.
Oh, he used to get fucked up.
He'd be done.
He'd be like, yeah.
He was the whole other level of crushed.
He was the funnest man I ever met in my life.
Because they're meticulous.
They're like this.
know they're real small right like sardines and he's he's like he was meticulous you didn't get any bones if y'all never watched seven fish on netflix on netflix that's the family terry and i grew up i watched it like three times
What you got, brother?
Deep fried turkey.
Oh, I thought that's good.
On Christmas?
Shit!
You've never had a deep fried turkey?
Yeah, I had it.
It's in my back door next year.
Thanksgiving.
As a matter of fact, I'll go get one today.
Mine has got to be Graham's.
Mine's got to be Graham's tuna fish sauce pasta.
Oh, that was good.
And I'm making homemade pasta tomorrow.
And I got the tuna fish sauce.
I got this brewing right now.
That's awesome.
Yo, I'm going to come back with you.
Favorite cookie.
Back with me?
Yeah.
Well, I'd show you what my favorite cookie was, but Rasheed ate them all.
Because it's my favorite.
And again, it was Grandma's Pitzels.
Pitzels.
Pitzels.
Minus the cocaine bear.
You ever have that?
Yeah, my wife makes it every year.
That's why it's going to be my favorite.
Listen.
I love making Pitzels.
Hey, Max made them.
I know Rasheed lost a lot of Pitzels, too.
Max made them this year.
Supreme.
Max did?
Hayden cooked up the batter.
Max made them.
Perfect crisp.
Perfect crisp.
Ask him.
Aren't they money?
They are money.
Thank you, guys.
My boys made them.
I was so proud.
Yeah, you guys didn't have a chance.
I didn't even know you had them.
So fast.
My favorite cookie is probably, and it's non-Christmas cookie, but like my aunt's
let me go back my hands my hands you ain't the sound no more way back up north my answer my mom used to like battle over making these chocolate chip cookies wait time out time out grams grams pizzelles or cherry slices oh cherry i forgot that cherry slices oh cherry slices oh every slice is this it's gonna make the cherry slice it don't look appetizing but it's like
It's like fruit cake.
But it's decadent.
I can't even explain.
It's got like Walnut City.
Oh, it's so good.
And I keep asking your mom for years.
I've been asking your mom for that recipe.
Your mother is... Come on, man.
I need a beer.
Put you to shot glass.
There's another one.
All right.
The cold kind?
Anyway, yeah, that was my... I agree.
My mother and her sisters, she had three sisters.
They used to battle it out over chocolate chip cookies.
Three sisters?
Three sisters.
Aunt Mary always had the best.
Three brothers.
Shout out to Aunt Mary.
God rest her soul.
Nasty-ass woman.
She was mean.
be calling somebody she was being well but you did but you know you can't call anybody out if they can't come over here and defend themselves what'd you say anise or vanilla i like vanilla
yeah i mean i like them both but yeah i mean i like them both but i i think because anise i gotta get them from john eagle i don't know how to make them no bro i got you bro i got you this year let me know i got these guys seven meat seven meat pie no
So you think you've got seven?
You got it.
You'll be here.
I'm just asking if you're going seven.
So we got crab legs.
No, no.
What do you want?
That bottle.
Oh, my God.
I didn't know that was here.
What's that in there?
Stuffed salmon.
We got shrimp.
Just like shrimp scampi.
We got shrimp cocktail.
Okay.
We got scallops.
We got tuna fish sauce.
I'm just doing widely.
You know what?
I think, yeah.
And Nina said she's bringing out.
Nina's bringing some.
Cheers.
Nina's got some kind of.
It's a Swedish dish.
It's a Swedish dish.
It's like fish with potatoes.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, we'll bring grouper.
Because I think we have grouper, shrimp, scallop.
I do.
But your mother made.
Your mother used to make.
What time was it?
Tuesday.
Whatever it was, your mom made a good Christmas.
white sauce.
It's like a white gravy clam sauce.
My wife makes a great clam sauce.
What you got?
You got seven going.
That's it.
What do you mean?
For what?
I don't know.
What are we doing?
What's next?
Favorite movie or show?
For Halloween?
I mean for Christmas.
Favorite Christmas movie?
It's definitely Home Alone.
Oh, you watched like 11 times already.
I watched like 100, both of them.
Yeah, it's Home Alone.
Because I was in private school when that came out.
And they took us to the movies.
And we went like every week.
And that's when I was in private school.
Period.
They took you to the school.
We're going on a field trip.
Was it the old stuff for me again?
Very traditional.
No.
What's your favorite cookie for Christmas?
He said it.
Pizzel.
Pizzel.
Oh, man.
100%.
My wife makes these.
Yeah.
Their neighbor just brought some over.
Our neighbor just brought some over.
Oh, jeez.
Yeah, she is.
I say Christmas Story or Christmas Vacation.
Yeah, those are great.
Those are all great.
You know, throwing that out there, yeah.
But Bad Santa, what's your space with Bad Santa?
I like Bad Santa.
I like Bad Santa.
Believe it or not, this is the first time I ever watched it.
Yeah, he's funny.
I went up in the attic the other day.
I don't know.
You guys got an attic?
It was cold as shit up there.
I said to my wife, can someone help me?
Anyone down there?
I said, I feel like Chevy Chase up here.
I'm going to be wrapping myself up with all kinds of shit.
I said, but my attic didn't have anything creepy.
That's a good thing.
I think I took the creepiness out of my attic.
There's nothing up in my attic.
There's an air conditioned what's called up there, but that's it.
Really?
Yeah, I know.
I got all my fucking winter clothes up there, summer clothes.
That's where I put all my... I live on Market and I had that here with all my storage.
My storage was up in Miami.
Nothing scary.
I don't get weed up there because it's smoke rise.
That's how you do dog skin.
That way is next to the bed.
In the basement.
Right next to the bed.
Hey, if you're still watching,
Why?
Chime in.
What do you got for us?
Okay.
Favorite gift Santa brought you.
Favorite gift Santa brought you.
Ever?
Yeah.
Man.
I don't want to beat all you guys.
You got the Millennium Falcon.
Oh!
That was cool.
I had one.
Can I sleep over?
Yeah, it was so cool.
It had a little hiding spot in it.
That thing was badass.
Favorite Christmas gift?
Yeah.
I was a young youth.
At the time of
You know, you're 12 years old, maybe 11, 12.
And my brother Ricky and I. Ricky, Bobby.
I know Ricky.
Ricky, Bobby.
So we get a little square box.
Get a little square box like that.
Ain't no Ricky, Bobby like that.
And you shake it.
You know, as a kid, you're all excited in it.
We got it from my oldest brother, Ron.
I'm the youngest in nine.
Ron sends that shit in the mail.
Ron sends us, oh, my God.
So, of course, both Ricky and I opened it when mom and dad are away, you know, in the other room.
And it's a fishbowl.
Okay, y'all, a fishbowl.
It's a wooden bowl.
It holds marijuana.
It has a little hole.
Beautiful fishbowl.
Get that fucking cup.
Holy shit.
I knew what it was.
Rick knew what it was.
So mom comes in the living room.
She says, what did you guys get?
The buckle.
She says, what?
Bell buckle.
Let me see.
No, I'll show you later.
I'm going to put it on my pants.
Like you take off.
You don't show mom.
You're 12 years old.
You know what I mean?
That story kind of skipped, rolled right out.
You know, and then we get upstairs.
I rake.
You going to tell mom what you got?
I'm going to tell mom what you got.
He said, what did you tell her?
I said, bell buckle.
He said, how are you going to tell you got a bell buckle when you don't have a bell buckle that big?
I'm going to find a bell buckle that big.
Believe me.
He finds it quick.
And the story ended.
But as a 17-year-old, and I went four or five years, that was the only piece that held my growing up high school weed life together.
Because that little fishbowl, I knew I had to get away with everything without anybody knowing, especially your mother.
You know what I mean?
You're going to keep a secret.
You better keep it from mom.
I'm tearing up, baby.
So then...
in my 30s traveling my mother she's like you know how come you never showed me that belt buckle and i told my mother and i said he's never a belt buckle story oh absolutely yeah yeah there's and and that's the thing is that was my favorite my my favorite christmas gift to you stories that told my mother after i grew up my mom was like mark i knew exactly no yeah yeah she just laughed she knew because she would do
She was like, I was smoking that shit.
Remember?
She thought of the Bob stuff.
She was like, I was curious, and I just wanted to see what it was like.
And so I smoked it.
Remember, this is Grandma.
Yeah.
I was like, Grandma.
She told me.
Hey, buddy.
How about the K2 footballs?
You guys ever get a K2 football?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
What the fuck's that?
Listen, I don't know.
He'd be in a KT football every Christmas.
Really?
I would try to keep it the best I could.
A real football?
Yeah, a real football.
I got the Duke.
You got the Duke.
You got the Duke.
That's how I learned to throw.
You were John Wayne, baby.
That's how I learned to throw a football.
My dad got me the Duke.
I don't know.
Listen, I was spoiled.
And the presents were like whatever.
I had the green machine.
I don't know if I had a favorite.
But I remember going through the JCPenney catalog.
Oh, yeah.
It's like the Sears catalog, right?
And I didn't hear more shit.
I'd circle stuff.
Arrows, highlights.
Wow, that's good stuff like that.
Stars.
I never got any of that.
And I was like, I was like, I might go back.
I was like, what the hell?
Santa didn't pay attention.
Mom, dad didn't pay attention.
Right.
But I was like so blessed with everything I got.
Best gift.
We have family.
Best gift your uncle ever got you.
Yeah.
Oh, the Magic Johnson poster.
It was autographed.
The best what?
Yeah.
The best what, Mark?
What did he say?
The best what?
Upper deck, authenticated fucking poster.
Yeah.
He sent it with a pin or was it like a late guest marker?
It was smart.
He got short on his girlfriend's assignment.
Which one?
To Terry.
From Terry.
No.
Sorry.
I've been a shitty uncle for a long time.
I was like, I need to do this.
I ain't getting nephews.
My favorite gift actually wasn't from... My dad used to buy me a gift every year for my birthday.
He'd take me out and he'd be like, I'm buying you something.
We're going out today, Dad?
My Aunt Mary, who's my godmother...
she bought me a gi joe when i was like eight years old it was like the action gi joe
That was my favorite.
They're in my basement here.
There's a grown-ass man somewhere downstairs in my basement in this footlocker that my mom and dad got me to keep the clothes and the DIOs and all that shit.
I got one for you guys.
That's the kid shit.
It's either going to throw a dart in my fucking heart or who knows.
Best poster on a wall.
You know what mine was?
Farrah Fawcett.
Michael Jordan.
What?
I hope he wasn't OJ.
As you keep going up, you threw the fucking juice at the time.
That's the thing.
Michael Jordan.
Farrah Fawcett was right next to him.
Who was you?
OJ.
Yeah, I'm in.
I'm all in.
I'm all in on that.
That was ours.
My oldest brother had that.
I just looked at it last night.
Smoking.
What led by his picture?
This is 1972.
He was in college.
I was a Maryland fan.
Who was the pose?
Was he shooting?
No, he was shooting a basketball.
He was shooting.
I think it's like when he was shooting on the edge, it wasn't a three-quarter time because they didn't have it.
But him shooting his jump shot when he was like up high.
He was shooting a jump shot.
So my brother, my wife's uncle played at Duke.
He said he was better than Jordan.
Yes.
Really?
Yes.
Because he was so strong.
He was 6'8".
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
And Jordan was 6'6".
He was so strong.
He came out before Jordan for the same time.
Right in me.
I think this year.
We'd have to Google that.
It was either after one year or after or before.
Yeah.
That was, that was a trap.
I mean, yeah.
Yeah.
That's another show, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause there's a picture of my uncle Carter and I sent it to my uncle.
He said, yeah, he was, he was killing us.
He was killing everybody.
So there's no, I don't, I don't think there's anyone has ever been in this area that's ever had a bigger impact than him.
Here's a great story for you.
When I was growing up, there was a boy by the name of Philip Nevin.
He was two years younger than me.
He was two years.
He was one of the first seven-footers.
He lived in the quad with Len Bice.
And when Len died, he was there when Len died.
And we had a nice conversation about this.
And he said that Len was just a stand-up guy.
He did not do shit like that.
And he was just so excited.
And someone was like, hey, check this out.
Let's do this.
We're partying.
Yeah.
That was it.
This came right out of Phil's Facebook.
Phil said that was not Len Biles.
When he did, he was a good kid.
He was a good dude.
My cousin played at Maryland.
He actually has one of Lenny's jackets.
He gave him a jacket from a bowl game and they swapped jackets or whatever.
and uh he said lenny was just a good dude he was really he really that was way out of his character to do that well yeah i think it was like high-tech stuff from came supposedly well it's so funny i read it somebody recently he's like my last name is edmunds he's like i had no i'm not that edmunds he's like i had nothing to do with him
This has been one of the funniest shows I've ever had.
Trey, thanks for the invite.
Sorry if we missed anybody.
Joe, what's your social media?
We want to keep you in the loop.
I brew wine.com.
I brew wine.com.
If they find you, they find me, Mark.
This is true.
Hey, we're going over to Joe's house.
So just come on over.
It's right through the cut.
Right through the cut.
Right on Market Street.
Yeah, Market Street through the cut.
Noobs, give it to them.
At Coach Noobs.
There we go.
On Twitter or X, I'm sorry, at Instagram.
Let's get it.
Let's go.
Cheat.
I'm easy to find.
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Merry Christmas.
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Have another happy New Year, y'all.
We'll see you after the first of the year.
Everybody be safe.
Hey.
Hey.
Everybody be safe.
Hey.
Salute.
Salute, brother.
I know what the fuck.
That peanut butter shit, vodka, bourbon, whatever he's got up there.
That's all he's got up there.
Go deep.
Up in the right corner.
Go deep.
Up in the right corner.
See, I had a screwball.
Where?
Screwball peanut butter whiskey.
Go over there then.
Where the hell?
Come on, sir.
Oh, shit.
There's a light right there.
Hold on.