Building Abuse-Free Zones: Security Solution for All Spaces featuring Sabrina Osso with OSSO Safe

00:00:00 Small Business Origins Podcast

[00:00:00] Intro: Tell me your story.

[00:00:01] John Kelley: Tell me your story.

[00:00:02] Sabrina Osso: How did it all start?

[00:00:03] Sabrina Osso: Do you remember?

[00:00:04] John Kelley: Oh, I know what happened.

[00:00:04] John Kelley: How did it stop?

[00:00:06] John Kelley: You're now tuned Intro the Small Business Origins podcast.

[00:00:10] Sabrina Osso: I love an origin story.

[00:00:11] John Kelley: Each week, we dive into the real stories of entrepreneurs and businesses from across the nation.

[00:00:17] John Kelley: Louisian, what's his origin story?

[00:00:18] John Kelley: Who started with just an idea, and they're now making waves.

[00:00:21] John Kelley: I told you this was a good idea.

[00:00:23] John Kelley: This is Small Business Origins.

00:00:30 The Impact of Television on Childhood Memories

[00:00:30] Intro: Yeah.

[00:00:30] Intro: Is up, everyone.

[00:00:31] Intro: Welcome back to another episode of small business origins.

[00:00:35] Intro: You're tuned Intro our nationwide search for entrepreneurs that have a story to tell.

[00:00:39] Intro: And as always, I'm your host, John Kelley, aka John the Marketer on Instagram and TikTok, John the podcaster on Twitter.

[00:00:47] Intro: So make sure you find me over there, interact with me, interact with the show.

[00:00:50] Intro: Let's talk about it.

[00:00:51] Intro: But joining me in the studio today, I've got an entrepreneur entrepreneur that wants to share her story that she's been sharing all over the place.

[00:00:58] Intro: I would say probably all over the world at this point.

[00:01:01] Intro: So virtually in the studio, I've got from Ridgefield, New Jersey, Sabrina Osso with Ohso Safe.

[00:01:06] Intro: Sabrina, welcome to the show.

[00:01:08] Outro: Thank you so much, John.

[00:01:09] Outro: We're so happy to be here with you.

[00:01:11] Intro: Man, we are happy to have you here.

[00:01:14] Intro: And before we hop into it, because, you know, as always, our conversation prior to the show has been amazing already, and I'm excited to hop into it.

[00:01:21] Intro: But before we do, we always start out with our icebreaker question.

[00:01:24] Intro: And today's icebreaker question is what TV show do you remember most from your childhood?

[00:01:30] Outro: I have several, but one that stands out is The Brady Bunch.

[00:01:37] Intro: Yep.

[00:01:39] Outro: Yeah.

[00:01:39] Outro: I have several, but I I can bring that in as we interview because, I always wondered how come my family is not like The Brady Bunch?

[00:01:49] Outro: How come while they solve their problems without any, any violence, any abuse, and they they get along and they respect one another.

[00:02:01] Outro: And I always thought that, like, how come I was, I guess, jealous, you could say, I guess, of of that environment.

[00:02:09] Outro: You know?

[00:02:09] Outro: But, yeah.

[00:02:10] Intro: Yeah.

[00:02:11] Intro: It's yeah.

[00:02:12] Intro: You know, something we talked about prior to the show was that, like, how social media kinda gives you the perfect view of everyone's life because that's all that we release.

[00:02:19] Intro: And back then, we didn't have social media.

[00:02:22] Intro: We had I mean, the Internet wasn't even really a thing that just regular common people would get on.

[00:02:28] Intro: This was something that big businesses or the wealthy or other people would access, and it was in its infant stages.

[00:02:36] Intro: And even before that, you know, the the nineties, it was really just TV that we would see and kinda see these perfect images of what a family is or anything else.

[00:02:45] Intro: And you're right.

[00:02:46] Intro: It just plays into that whole, well, why is it that my life isn't as perfect as this TV life?

[00:02:53] Intro: And we were learning then, well, TV's fake.

[00:02:55] Intro: This is not real.

[00:02:56] Intro: And now it's like we're going through that again.

[00:02:58] Intro: It's so cyclical how everything in history repeats itself because now we're learning with social media.

[00:03:05] Intro: It's like, well, why isn't my life as as perfect as the Joneses down the road?

[00:03:08] Intro: And it's like, well, the Joneses down the road have all kinds of problems they're not telling you about.

[00:03:12] Intro: So don't take social media literal.

[00:03:14] Intro: And, that's just interesting.

[00:03:16] Intro: For me, it was PBS was really big.

[00:03:19] Intro: I was born in 88, and PBS was, like, the go to thing in the morning while I'm having my cereal or something at my grandmother's house, you know, while my parents are at work.

[00:03:27] Intro: And so it was, things like Reading Rainbow, Mr.

[00:03:30] Intro: Rogers' Neighborhood.

[00:03:32] Intro: Those shows really just they were all about my childhood, man.

[00:03:35] Intro: That was everything that I did.

[00:03:37] Intro: Just watching these things about books that we got to read and, you know, learning how to be.

[00:03:42] Intro: I feel like it was really good, wholesome TV, and it just kinda probably made me into the person I am today watching stuff like that versus what kids are seeing today on YouTube and everything else.

[00:03:51] Outro: Right.

[00:03:51] Outro: Right.

[00:03:52] Outro: I I do remember mister Rogers, I forgot about him.

[00:03:55] Outro: He was good.

[00:03:56] Outro: Yes.

[00:03:56] Outro: And, a few others that you mentioned.

[00:03:58] Outro: It's true.

[00:03:59] Outro: Yeah.

[00:04:02] Outro: And that was the social media of the day, like you said.

[00:04:05] Outro: So I'm glad you said that.

[00:04:06] Outro: Yeah.

[00:04:07] Outro: It's true.

00:04:08 Interview with Sabrina Osso

[00:04:08] Intro: Absolutely.

[00:04:09] Intro: Well, we are here to talk about you, though, and I know all of this stuff kinda plays into it already.

[00:04:13] Intro: We've Yeah.

[00:04:14] Intro: We've kinda delved into some of it, but let's start with who Sabrina is.

[00:04:17] Intro: Where did you come from?

[00:04:18] Intro: How'd you get into entrepreneurship?

[00:04:20] Intro: Always ask, what is your origins?

[00:04:22] Outro: Sure.

[00:04:23] Outro: Again, thank you so much for having us.

[00:04:26] Outro: Any opportunity that we have to, do interviews like this, we're we're we're very, very grateful.

[00:04:34] Outro: I was born in Manhattan, actually, I'm proud to say.

[00:04:38] Outro: And, but I've been in New Jersey since I was 2a half, about 2a half.

[00:04:43] Outro: And my parents were born and raised in Italy.

[00:04:47] Outro: So my first language is Italian, actually.

[00:04:51] Outro: I I I was told that in kindergarten, no one understood me because I spoke Italian dialect.

[00:04:57] Outro: And I'm actually grateful because I am very fluent.

[00:05:01] Outro: I traveled back and forth between here and Italy for various reasons, and and no one in my family there speaks English other than a few curse words.

[00:05:11] Outro: So I I I have to speak Italian, and, it's a beautiful country.

[00:05:18] Outro: I highly recommend at least one visit.

[00:05:22] Outro: And, but I, and I say this because I never enjoyed Italy until I was an adult, because all I remember is my parents fighting.

[00:05:37] Outro: I I come from violence.

[00:05:39] Outro: My father beat my mother on a regular basis.

[00:05:41] Outro: My mother would beat me.

[00:05:42] Outro: So and I've had enough therapy to be comfortable to say that to a perfect stranger.

[00:05:48] Outro: We're both strangers.

[00:05:50] Outro: But, we, I feel like I look back, I'm like, wow.

[00:05:58] Outro: Between the beach and the architecture and just the people and the food and the atmosphere, I said, wow.

[00:06:06] Outro: I never enjoyed it.

[00:06:08] Outro: I never enjoyed it because all I would hear is my parents fighting, the suitcases being thrown everywhere, the the put downs, the verbal physical abuse.

[00:06:20] Outro: And and I remember my cousin saying, go get yourself a pair of shoes.

[00:06:27] Outro: And I said to myself, okay.

[00:06:31] Outro: I'll go get a pair of shoes.

[00:06:33] Outro: Like, Italy is known for many things, and one of them is fashion.

[00:06:37] Outro: So he said, you know, go into town and get yourself a pair of shoes.

[00:06:40] Outro: And and that's when I started, like, really appreciating Italy for what it was, not the violence, the abuse, the chaos, the dysfunction, because that's not Italy.

[00:06:51] Outro: You know?

[00:06:51] Outro: Italy is the opposite of that unless you have a family that is that.

[00:06:57] Outro: You know?

[00:06:57] Outro: So because violence steals your life.

[00:07:00] Outro: It, it steals your life.

[00:07:03] Outro: Abuse steals your life.

[00:07:07] Outro: My my, business, Osso Safe, started as a one woman show.

[00:07:11] Outro: I'm a dancer, and I wrote a one woman show called Home Sweet Home, question mark.

[00:07:19] Outro: And I play different women being abused.

[00:07:21] Outro: She goes to her good place.

[00:07:23] Outro: That's where the dancing comes in, but then she's pulled back in the into the terror of violence.

[00:07:29] Outro: I did a lot of research for the show, and I could not believe the statistics that I was finding.

[00:07:36] Outro: And we could go over some of the statistics later in the interview.

[00:07:40] Outro: But I I said to myself, wow.

[00:07:42] Outro: I need to make this into a business, a bonafide business with products and services, because I knew the impact that it had on my life.

[00:07:52] Outro: But I, as I was reading and, and, and doing the research, I said, wow, this affects many, many people.

[00:07:59] Outro: So, and I thought back, what did I need growing up?

[00:08:03] Outro: What would have helped?

[00:08:04] Outro: What would have really made a positive impact.

[00:08:09] Outro: So I created products and services that I feel will make or are making and continue to make a positive impact on people's lives, whether you're a victim of violence or not.

[00:08:24] Outro: You know?

[00:08:25] Outro: So, so that's how Osso Safe was John, And we combine education and technology to make respect a required standard condition of residency in your home, in all homes.

[00:08:41] Outro: So I hope I answered the question.

00:08:44 The Impact of Domestic Violence on Children

[00:08:44] Intro: Yeah.

[00:08:44] Intro: No.

[00:08:45] Intro: It's a great answer.

[00:08:46] Intro: And, you know, I know we cheated and we kinda shared some personal stories prior to the show, but I do appreciate the fact that you're willing to talk about these things openly because I I see and campaign against is making it a taboo subject, but it's easy for this to be considered a taboo subject because violence in the home, especially, is so negative, and society views it as that icky thing that we don't wanna see, we don't wanna talk about.

[00:09:20] Intro: And I think it's I think it's well intentioned.

[00:09:23] Intro: I don't think people don't wanna talk about it because they don't care about the victim and they just want these people to be victims.

[00:09:30] Intro: I think that they don't wanna talk about it because a lot of people who aren't like me, who works in public service and sees the ugly side of society sometimes, a lot of people can't handle the ugly side of society.

[00:09:42] Intro: I think if a majority of Americans or a majority of the world understood, I say Americans first because I think that some of the other world is really kind of privy to what's going on.

[00:09:55] Intro: You know, there's a lot of of countries out there that unfortunately are still just war torn and and just kind of dealing with a lot of conflict internally versus places like, I would say, Italy, France, America, England, where we're more kind of progressed already past that part of our lifestyle.

[00:10:14] Intro: We are in this place where from one lens, life is so perfect.

[00:10:20] Intro: And then from the lens of people who have been victimized by these things, we know the ugly, excuse me, we know the ugly side of society, and we know that, not just society as a whole, but even right down to our own family that this stuff exists.

[00:10:35] Intro: And so it it is difficult for people like myself, people like you to come to a show and share these personal details because I think it's easy for a victim like we were to bring that in close and say, well, I don't wanna talk about this ugly side of my life because I don't want people to know about it.

[00:10:54] Intro: I don't want people to think that I'm weak.

[00:10:55] Intro: I don't want people to feel sorry for me.

[00:10:57] Intro: I don't want to, you know, interrupt this person's day or make them, like, feel anything or see anything that they don't wanna see.

[00:11:06] Intro: And it's like, we take all of that stuff on ourselves.

[00:11:09] Intro: And I I was never a victim of abuse myself, but I Kelley myself a victim because I had to live in a household and see it.

[00:11:15] Intro: And so it traumatized me mentally in a way, even though I never wanted to admit that.

[00:11:21] Intro: It was still something I had to deal with mentally as a child, you know, because I was torn like you, I had a a beautiful life.

[00:11:28] Intro: I had a beautiful family.

[00:11:30] Intro: I loved what we got to do, the traveling that we got to do, the vacations we got to take.

[00:11:35] Intro: The only problem was a vacation would go from fun bliss to hell really fast, and you never knew when it was gonna come.

[00:11:45] Intro: You never knew what was gonna be the thing that sparked it, so you were kind of on eggshells as a child often.

[00:11:51] Intro: I don't know if you felt this, but I would blame myself for my parents' arguments because it would be something as simple as, you know, I would I would want Osso, for instance.

[00:12:02] Intro: And my dad, this is something you talked about in your your TEDx, your TED Talk was, you know, my dad would kind of be like that.

[00:12:10] Intro: Well, he's 5, 6 years old.

[00:12:11] Intro: He knows how to use a toaster.

[00:12:13] Intro: You know?

[00:12:14] Intro: Don't and excuse my language, and I'm gonna put a trigger warning on this episode for people.

[00:12:19] Intro: But he would say, you know, like, don't don't make my son a pussy.

[00:12:22] Intro: Like, he can he can make his own damn toast.

[00:12:24] Intro: Why are you in there making toast for him?

[00:12:26] Intro: Well, then all of a sudden, I take that John myself like, oh, crap.

[00:12:31] Intro: If I would've just made toast, then my mom wouldn't be in this situation.

[00:12:35] Intro: Whereas when I got older, I realized, no.

[00:12:38] Intro: If my dad wasn't being an asshole

[00:12:40] Intro: You know, then this would have been fine.

[00:12:43] Intro: And it wasn't always my dad's fault.

[00:12:45] Intro: You know?

[00:12:46] Intro: We're all human.

[00:12:47] Intro: Right?

[00:12:47] Intro: Sometimes my mom would be the aggressor.

[00:12:49] Intro: Sometimes my dad would be the aggressor.

[00:12:52] Intro: I don't think that it was that they hated each other.

[00:12:54] Intro: I definitely don't think they wanted me to be exposed to that.

[00:12:58] Intro: I think it was just that they didn't have resources, something like what you have, that was able to teach them how to argue Kelley.

[00:13:08] Intro: Because my dad grew up in an abusive household.

00:13:11 Promoting Safety and Preventing Violence in the Real Estate Industry

[00:13:11] Intro: He watched his mom get the crap beat out of her.

[00:13:14] Intro: He was forced into Christianity and was kinda told, like, maybe you're not a good Christian, that kind of stuff.

[00:13:21] Intro: He was sexually abused as a child.

[00:13:23] Intro: And then you take my mom.

[00:13:25] Intro: She was sexually abused as a child from 2 to 10 years old.

[00:13:30] Intro: So you have 2 people who are traumatized.

[00:13:32] Intro: They get together.

[00:13:33] Intro: They find the solace in each other, and then they don't know how to work out their own problems because they came from homes where they were taught to deal with their problems the wrong way.

[00:13:43] Intro: So I say all of that to say that I don't think it was truly a situation where they wanted to be bad people, And I don't think that we lived in this.

[00:13:54] Intro: You know, some of the cases that you've seen, it's clear that the male is the aggressor.

[00:13:58] Intro: The male is the problem.

[00:13:59] Intro: They're abusive.

[00:14:00] Intro: They're, condescending.

[00:14:03] Intro: They are manipulative, that kind of stuff.

[00:14:05] Intro: And then on the opposite side of that, we see that where the woman is that aggressor as well.

[00:14:10] Intro: I don't think either one of them wanted to be an aggressor or go through something like this.

[00:14:14] Intro: I think they just didn't know how to do it any other way.

[00:14:18] Intro: So that turned me into a traumatized child who, you know, the same way, my sister would have to come to me and say, hey.

[00:14:25] Intro: Let's go play Donkey Kong on the Nintendo in your room.

[00:14:28] Intro: You know?

[00:14:28] Intro: And we turn the volume all the way up and shut the doors while, things are flying.

[00:14:33] Intro: Lamps are flying, and personal belongings are being broken and screaming, cussing, yelling, and all this stuff.

[00:14:38] Intro: And then that's something that as I grew older, I had to learn because my wife and I, we've been through some knockdown, drag out fights, you know, nothing physical because I made a promise to myself.

[00:14:50] Intro: And believe it or not, my dad literally told me if I ever see you hit a woman, then I'm coming for you.

[00:14:59] Intro: And it was like, that's kinda what told me.

[00:15:02] Intro: I knew he didn't want to be this way.

[00:15:04] Intro: He just didn't take the steps necessary to make himself a better person and get out of that.

[00:15:10] Intro: But like you, I have gone through some severe trauma as well where where just things were ruined for no reason.

[00:15:17] Intro: We were having a beautiful time, and then it turns into this huge fight.

[00:15:21] Intro: And it's something I've had to crawl out of and learn myself of just, hey.

[00:15:25] Intro: It's not right.

[00:15:26] Intro: Like, she's going through this problem.

[00:15:28] Intro: She's going through, you know, whatever the situation may be or I'm upset about something.

[00:15:32] Intro: I gotta remove myself from that and learn to kind of deal with this.

[00:15:35] Intro: Osso, oh, so safe, I know that you mentioned you've got some technology involved there.

[00:15:40] Intro: You've got some, things that kind of it seems like this would help someone who, like my parents, would need something that can tell tell them or teach them how to be better partners in Osso Safe does?

[00:15:56] Outro: Yes.

[00:15:57] Outro: Yes.

[00:15:58] Outro: Thank you for saying all of that, and I I think a lot of survivors can relate to that.

[00:16:05] Outro: I always blamed myself.

[00:16:07] Outro: In fact, I would say I am responsible for my parents' marriage, like making it okay.

[00:16:14] Outro: And like you said, it is an attribute of abusive parents where or abusive people where they make they make a problem out of nothing.

[00:16:25] Outro: Out of nothing.

[00:16:26] Outro: Like you said, the toast.

[00:16:28] Outro: I remember in my house, it was, getting sick.

[00:16:33] Outro: Like, if I got sick, it was like a war.

[00:16:36] Outro: It's your fault.

[00:16:37] Outro: Why didn't you put the jacket on her?

[00:16:39] Outro: She went outside without the jacket and it would turn into a war.

[00:16:44] Outro: And it's an attribute of of abusive people, instead of just let it be okay.

[00:16:50] Outro: It's it's not a problem.

[00:16:53] Outro: So I echo pretty much everything that you said, John.

[00:16:57] Outro: I I and I, I sympathize.

[00:17:01] Outro: I and I find it, though, a bit shocking that your dad can I ask, is he still living?

[00:17:11] Intro: He is not.

[00:17:12] Intro: Unfortunately, both of my parents have passed.

[00:17:14] Intro: So I lost my dad when I was 16, and I lost my mom when I was 24.

[00:17:18] Intro: They were both early fifties.

[00:17:19] Outro: Okay.

[00:17:20] Intro: So my dad was 52.

[00:17:21] Intro: My mother was 51.

[00:17:22] Outro: Okay.

[00:17:23] Outro: I'm surprised that he said that to you that if you ever lay a hand on your wife, on your partner, I'm coming to get you because, my father never said that.

[00:17:37] Outro: He was always he wasn't wrong.

[00:17:41] Outro: I was the one who was wrong.

[00:17:43] Outro: You made me do this to you.

[00:17:45] Outro: Both of my parents did that.

[00:17:46] Outro: So, wow, I find that interesting.

[00:17:51] Outro: I have to say my father passed away as well.

[00:17:53] Outro: It's been 5 5 and a half years now that he passed away.

[00:17:57] Outro: Osso, we combine education and technology to promote safety and prevent violence.

[00:18:03] Outro: So back to what I said, what did I need growing up?

[00:18:08] Outro: What did your parents need growing up and also in their adult life?

[00:18:12] Outro: What would have made it better?

[00:18:14] Outro: What would have made it, more where we existed, we co where we coexisted in peace and at, at any level, you know, instead of verbal, physical, sexual abuse.

[00:18:29] Outro: So what we are promoting into the real estate industry, and we focus on the real estate industry because everything stems from the home.

[00:18:39] Outro: If you're not safe at home, you're not safe anywhere.

[00:18:43] Outro: Kelley let me rephrase that.

[00:18:46] Outro: We have to make home safe Osso that way everything else will fall into place, if you will.

[00:18:52] Outro: If you trace back all of the shooters in schools where you trace back their home life, they come from violence.

[00:19:02] Outro: They come from, from abuse, from chaos, from dysfunction.

00:19:06 Introducing Osso SAVE Certifications for Properties

[00:19:06] Outro: Someone that comes from a nurturing, loving, respectful environment, they would never take a gun and shoot up a bunch of teachers, students, little kids, staff.

[00:19:18] Outro: It would never even cross one's mind.

[00:19:21] Outro: So everything stems from the home.

[00:19:25] Outro: And we are introducing into the real estate industry, Osso SAVE certifications for properties.

[00:19:32] Outro: And these certifications are combining education and technology.

[00:19:37] Outro: They're made up of 4 components.

[00:19:40] Outro: And it's the, the certifications are we are marketing this to landlords, property owners, property managers, whether you rent, whether you own, whether you have a mortgage or not.

[00:19:52] Outro: We want this to cross over all types of residency.

[00:19:57] Outro: And it's the the the landlord, the property owner would purchase the home, the Osso home suite home package.

[00:20:05] Outro: It consists of 4 components, a policy, a seminar, an app, and therapists assigned to the property.

[00:20:13] Outro: So just to give a brief description of these four components, the policy basically states, I, as a homeowner, I'm going to promise to provide you a safe space for you to live.

[00:20:26] Outro: You in turn as my resident, as my tenant, You promise to not act in any way, shape, or form abusively.

[00:20:33] Outro: Otherwise, you, the abuser, only gets immediately evicted from the premises, And we go into full knowledge knowing that that would be the consequences.

[00:20:42] Outro: So it's not like a surprise.

[00:20:44] Outro: Oh, I didn't know that this was going to happen.

[00:20:46] Outro: You know, because it's, it's on paper, it's documented.

[00:20:51] Outro: And also in the policy, it states children have agency over their lives way before 18 years of age.

[00:21:02] Outro: We don't wait until a child is 18 years old to get them to safety.

[00:21:08] Outro: So if both parents are abusive, we educate the child to say, look, if you're not safe with mom and dad, who do you feel safe with?

[00:21:21] Outro: An aunt, an uncle, a grandparent, a close family friend.

[00:21:25] Outro: Because if we wait until they're 18, it's too late.

[00:21:28] Outro: It's too late.

[00:21:29] Outro: So this is all mapped out in the policy.

[00:21:32] Outro: The second component is the seminar, the Osso Safe Home Sweet Home Seminar.

[00:21:39] Outro: And we educate everyone in this seminar, adults and children alike on facts, statistics, warning signs, definitions of abuse, the difference between abuse and discipline, what constitutes a good relationship.

[00:21:53] Outro: So that way residents know, oh, I didn't know that if I pulled my partner's hair, that constitutes abuse.

[00:22:01] Outro: Now you know.

[00:22:03] Outro: The third component is the app.

[00:22:06] Outro: I hired a software company to go along with my specifications where the app detects violent like movements.

[00:22:15] Outro: Now right now it's being improved.

[00:22:17] Outro: It's being modified, But it will send alerts to the landlord, to the property owner to say, oh, wow.

[00:22:27] Outro: Shit.

[00:22:29] Outro: I have 10 units.

[00:22:30] Outro: Well, you just beat the crap out of her in my unit 2.

[00:22:33] Outro: And in my unit 10, you just beat the crap out of him.

[00:22:36] Outro: This is grounds for eviction.

[00:22:38] Outro: So it eliminates the he said, she said factor.

[00:22:42] Outro: It doesn't pick up documents.

[00:22:44] Outro: It doesn't pick up conversations.

[00:22:46] Outro: What it picks up is violence.

[00:22:48] Outro: So hitting, slapping, spitting, kicking, punching, raping, violence, any form of violence.

[00:22:57] Outro: The 4th and final component are therapists.

[00:23:00] Outro: We have therapists assigned to the property.

[00:23:03] Outro: So in an in an Osso certified property, you are required to check-in with your therapist once a month.

[00:23:11] Outro: Is everything okay?

[00:23:12] Outro: Do you feel like anything is looming?

[00:23:14] Outro: Just to give an example, well, mister and miss therapist, our kid got into a fight.

[00:23:22] Outro: We we sense that there's bullying.

[00:23:25] Outro: We're not going to beat the child.

[00:23:28] Outro: We're not going to verbally disparage our child.

[00:23:30] Outro: We know that we are held to a higher regard, a higher standard, and an Osso safe certified property, but help us through this because we don't know how to handle this.

[00:23:41] Outro: So all of these 4 components working together makes for an Osso safe certified property.

[00:23:49] Outro: Our logo gets placed outside of the property.

[00:23:52] Outro: So that way, any pedestrian or vehicle traffic that's going by, they see the logo and they know what that means.

[00:24:00] Outro: Like, oh, I know that that property is Osso safe certified, which means that they have systems and mechanisms in place in case violence happens.

[00:24:12] Outro: They don't just leave it to the wind, toss it up to chance.

[00:24:16] Outro: And quite frankly, I would rather raise my children, if you have children, I would rather raise them in an Osso safe certified property because it's safe.

[00:24:27] Outro: They make respect safety a number one priority.

[00:24:33] Outro: So we are introducing this into the real estate industry to say, look, the statistics are alarming.

[00:24:42] Outro: And as you said, John, there's so many people going through this.

[00:24:46] Outro: Well, enough is enough.

[00:24:48] Outro: Enough is enough.

[00:24:50] Outro: Let's nip it in the bud.

[00:24:52] Outro: Let's solve it in residency where all of these violence abuse episodes happen.

[00:24:59] Outro: So we are we are marketing this to the real estate industry, to all.

[00:25:04] Outro: I mean, to schools, to universities, to workplaces, but our focus is in residency.

[00:25:10] Outro: So I hope I answered the question to give a synopsis of our core product.

00:25:17 Implementing Osso Safe in Rental Properties

[00:25:17] Intro: Absolutely.

[00:25:18] Intro: So this is the app that is going to detect these things.

[00:25:22] Intro: Obviously, for people like myself, if I wanted to invite a a program like this into my home, this is totally optional, you know, voluntary.

[00:25:30] Intro: This isn't forced.

[00:25:31] Intro: It isn't big brother in a sense of, you know, I'm being spied on.

[00:25:36] Intro: This is something I have to consent to and take part in.

[00:25:38] Intro: So the idea here would be apartment complexes, duplexes, rental homes, all of those with landlords and tenants that are deciding to take part in that.

[00:25:49] Intro: I would know if I wanted to rent from this property ahead of time that it is an Osso safe certified place and that I would have to participate in this program in order to qualify to live there.

[00:25:59] Intro: Is that correct?

[00:26:00] Outro: Correct.

[00:26:01] Outro: Correct.

[00:26:01] Outro: Basically.

[00:26:03] Outro: We Osso, though, we are saying to tenants that are already occupied, that are already in the building, we will offer them a, when their lease is up, you would have to become Osso Safe certified in order to continue to live here.

[00:26:22] Outro: But if your lease is not up, then we will do what's called an exchange of consideration, which means we will reduce your rent X amount of dollars if you become Osso certified for the remainder of your Kelley, because we know that let's say we're in the month of, May, but you have a lease until December.

[00:26:43] Outro: Well, you have a choice.

[00:26:45] Outro: You could either become a social safe certified and get your rent reduced up until December, or you could stay the way you are and not not participate.

[00:26:57] Outro: So we leave that up to the landlord, the property manager, and the tenant.

[00:27:02] Outro: So, yes, it's not forced, but we are very transparent in this is how we run this property.

[00:27:10] Outro: This is how it's going to be run, and it's your choice.

[00:27:14] Outro: You don't have to live here.

[00:27:16] Outro: You could go elsewhere.

[00:27:18] Outro: You could go elsewhere.

[00:27:19] Outro: No problem.

[00:27:20] Outro: But know that we're looking to make this a standard because quite frankly, no one should live with violence, with abuse, with chaos, with with dysfunction, especially a child.

[00:27:34] Outro: A child should not be exposed to that, not should not not be attacked verbally, physically, sexually in any capacity.

[00:27:44] Outro: It's very traumatizing as you stated and as I stated.

[00:27:49] Outro: So this makes for better residency for all across the board.

[00:27:56] Intro: Yeah.

[00:27:57] Intro: No.

[00:27:57] Intro: I'm in agreement there.

[00:27:58] Intro: I, I'm always honest on my shows, you know, and I ask sometimes tough questions, sometimes easy questions because I'm curious and I wanna know things.

[00:28:06] Intro: And so on one hand with this, I'm I'm super excited about it.

[00:28:11] Intro: I think this is a great idea because especially what is the one question after every shooting that occurs, you know, whether it's at school, at work, any mass shooting that we have in the US, the one thing that comes out afterward is everyone is saying we have to do something.

[00:28:29] Intro: Right.

[00:28:29] Intro: And you have one side of the political aisle that, you know, the very far side says ban all guns.

[00:28:38] Intro: That same side that's a little less radical says, let's have a lot more gun laws in place, and let's, you know, make these huge changes, which I'm sorry, but making you know, like, beating the crap out of your wife is illegal.

[00:28:52] Intro: Does making that illegal stop people from doing it?

[00:28:54] Intro: No.

[00:28:55] Intro: So it's like there's some good ideas there, and then there's some bad ideas that just aren't gonna work.

[00:28:59] Intro: The very other side of it, you know, in some instances kinda says, hey.

[00:29:04] Intro: Leave it alone.

[00:29:05] Intro: In other instances, says it's a mental health issue.

[00:29:09] Intro: But all of us right here in the middle are all saying that we agree exactly what you said.

[00:29:14] Intro: There's a mental health issue stemming from probably a major physical abuse situation that's occurring in I don't know what the statistics are, but a majority of those cases, that mental, insecurity was led to by the physical abuse.

[00:29:32] Intro: And so this seems to be kind of an answer that I think both sides maybe could agree on to say, hey.

[00:29:39] Intro: You know what?

[00:29:40] Intro: If you want us to do something, then let's start addressing the mental health component, which could stem from a physical abuse component.

[00:29:48] Intro: And so I love that this is an answer for that because to me, it seems like something that we can actually take action on that could have a difference or make a difference versus if you just add gun laws, some people aren't going to abide by those gun laws.

[00:30:03] Intro: Anyway, if you just leave it alone and do nothing, then nothing is going to change and we're gonna continue down this path.

[00:30:10] Intro: So I, I think that both sides kinda have some good concerns, some good ideas, some bad ideas, all that stuff, and I think this is a little bit in the middle.

[00:30:19] Intro: So the part that concerns me is both of those political sides of the aisle, you know, one is going to probably say, yes.

[00:30:27] Intro: Make it mandatory.

[00:30:28] Intro: Force it down people's throats.

[00:30:29] Intro: Everyone takes part in this or, you know, you don't even need to live in America anymore versus the other side's gonna say, well, this is very big brother.

[00:30:36] Intro: It's spying on us.

[00:30:37] Intro: We want our freedom.

[00:30:39] Intro: You know, I don't I don't like this idea.

[00:30:40] Intro: And then, again, us in the middle, people like myself are gonna say, hey.

[00:30:44] Intro: You know what?

[00:30:45] Intro: I like some components of it, and I have some questions and or concerns on some other parts of it as well.

[00:30:50] Intro: You know?

[00:30:51] Intro: So one of my concerns would be, well, first of all, let me back up and ask, is this active in other, you know, like, is this testing or is this already being used by some agencies, realtors, you know, landlords, that kind of thing?

00:31:07 Osso Safe App for Violence Detection in Residences

[00:31:07] Outro: This is fairly new.

[00:31:09] Outro: I have been improving upon it.

[00:31:11] Outro: I have been making changes to it, for, well, for a couple of years.

[00:31:18] Outro: And but we are ready to go.

[00:31:20] Outro: We are ready to go, especially that I'm a real estate agent.

[00:31:23] Outro: I have access to the, multiple listing service to property owners, property managers, landlords, tenants, buyers, and sellers.

[00:31:33] Outro: So I have been we we have been talking to so many people.

[00:31:37] Outro: And also as a member oh, as a real estate agent, you become a member of these national associations, right, for real estate agents.

[00:31:45] Outro: So we have been talking to other professionals about it just to let them know, look.

[00:31:51] Outro: We exist.

[00:31:52] Outro: We're here.

[00:31:53] Outro: These are the services, and we're ready to go.

[00:31:57] Outro: We are ready to introduce what what we have been introducing them.

[00:32:02] Outro: We are ready to implement and execute, and this is also national.

[00:32:07] Outro: We definitely have global, global, goals, but we are starting local, obviously, and and definitely because everybody lives somewhere.

[00:32:19] Outro: Right?

[00:32:20] Outro: I mean, even if you're homeless and you live in your car or in someone's residence, this applies because you need to be safe.

[00:32:29] Outro: You should be without any fear of anyone beating the crap out of you or, or verbal physical sexual abuse in any capacity.

[00:32:40] Outro: So, and and also we are, I I get with I I believe me.

[00:32:48] Outro: I understand.

[00:32:49] Outro: We I always consult with a small team of lawyers on everything that we're doing.

[00:32:55] Outro: So I've designed it where there is very little, how do I say, resistance or as little as possible because I had to, what is it, dot the i's and check off check the t's, you know, because we want the most people on board.

[00:33:16] Outro: The more people we could get on board, the more this will propagate and the more and the safer people will be, especially children.

[00:33:25] Outro: So, so I hope I answer answer the question.

[00:33:30] Outro: I know I go off on a tangent at times, but,

[00:33:34] Intro: No.

[00:33:34] Intro: I love it.

[00:33:34] Intro: I'm just trying to figure out, like, is this something that has been beta tested so far?

[00:33:39] Intro: Is it something you know, is this app live?

[00:33:42] Intro: Is have you seen some problems that you've solved with it, or are you just still kind of in that testing mode where you're anticipating problems and and trying to

[00:33:51] Outro: create those?

[00:33:51] Outro: I would say in the middle, testing and also implementing.

[00:33:55] Outro: So right now, it's being improved upon, like, on on just on detection, and we use facial recognition and AI, artificial intelligence.

[00:34:05] Outro: So, the software company that I hired, like I said, they go according to my specifications and even they said, wow.

[00:34:13] Outro: We've never done something like this before, you know, where it's detecting violent like movements.

[00:34:20] Outro: So, and this this will be it will have multiple applications even as a real estate agent, not only in the homes, but as a real estate agent, you go on showings, open houses.

[00:34:36] Outro: You don't know on the other side if they have good intentions or bad intentions.

[00:34:41] Outro: There are many stories, unfortunately, how agents are, either they are kidnapped or attacked or even murdered.

[00:34:52] Outro: One comes to mind, Beverly Carter.

[00:34:55] Outro: She she showed a a vacant house, a vacant investment property to someone, and he kidnapped her and killed her ultimately.

[00:35:05] Outro: This happened a few years ago.

[00:35:07] Outro: I think it was in the state of Arkansas.

[00:35:10] Outro: Our app would have detected the violence, and police would have gone to the residence right away.

[00:35:19] Outro: So another application would be for if you have nannies watching your young children or pet sitters for your pets, this would be very applicable, my the app, the Osso app.

[00:35:33] Outro: So it is on Google as well as on, the Apple Store.

[00:35:40] Outro: And and you would have to use the cameras that are designed with the app.

[00:35:46] Outro: So it's not like you could use it won't work.

[00:35:50] Outro: It won't be as compatible as using the cameras designed with the app.

[00:35:55] Outro: So, but we are ready to go.

[00:35:59] Outro: I mean, between the policy, the seminar, the app and the therapist, we're ready to go.

[00:36:06] Outro: I mean, this is this is, ready to be implemented.

[00:36:12] Intro: So this is gonna use basically some type of home security camera connected to your phone app, and then that's where is it where the phone is going to feel this movement and then kind of AI is going to review this camera to see if some type of action is

[00:36:29] Outro: going on?

[00:36:29] Outro: Yeah.

[00:36:30] Outro: Like I said, artificial intelligence and facial recognition.

[00:36:33] Outro: I mean, you could be you could be roughhousing as the phrase goes, right, kidding around and you're you're punching, you're you're throwing each other to the ground and everything, but it'll match your facial expression.

[00:36:45] Outro: Like, it if there's fear, if there's panic, if there's anxiety, that's where the match will happen, where, woah, this is violence.

[00:36:54] Outro: You know, she or he, is not in a good spot right now.

[00:36:59] Outro: You know, there and when you're roughhousing, there's a level of you're not being in fear or panic or anxiety or attacked, if you will.

[00:37:12] Outro: So, so there is that component to differentiate.

[00:37:18] Intro: Gotcha.

[00:37:18] Intro: Yeah.

[00:37:18] Intro: Because that's where my question was going was it concerns me with false alarms.

[00:37:22] Intro: Right?

[00:37:22] Intro: Because working in the, first responder world, I know that, obviously, false alarms can be costly because you're taking up resources that are limited already.

[00:37:33] Intro: And so that was kind of my concern was how is it going to know this difference between that?

[00:37:38] Intro: Because sometimes my kids roughhouse, right, together, and they cause some major disruption to the world.

[00:37:45] Intro: And it's like, the last thing I would want as a parent is a cop showing up to my door.

[00:37:49] Intro: And then now I've got this kinda big brother feeling of government trying to have this reason to step into my home and investigate what's going on because my kids were screaming and yelling and roughhousing.

[00:38:02] Intro: So that was a big concern that I have there.

[00:38:05] Intro: I mean, I'm not gonna lie.

[00:38:07] Intro: It does still I need to look into this more and kinda be sold on it a little more because it it's it's a little weird for me.

[00:38:14] Intro: Like, we don't really have security cameras in our house.

[00:38:16] Intro: The closest we have inside is a Furbo, which is to you know, because we're nerds Osso we like to give our dogs treats while we're gone, and be able to check up on him.

[00:38:25] Intro: We have that in the living room only.

[00:38:28] Intro: And so my other question would be kinda too is if someone is like me and they don't want those security cameras all throughout their house, is there an option where it can function without the security cameras?

[00:38:39] Intro: And then, additionally, do you think there'd be any type of issue where maybe, for instance, let's say, I wouldn't wanna have a camera in my bedroom.

[00:38:48] Intro: Right?

[00:38:48] Intro: And so with my bedroom, do you think that that would all of a sudden now possibly become a place of abuse because someone knows, okay.

[00:38:56] Intro: Well, the cameras can't see anything that's going on in there.

[00:38:59] Intro: So does your app do anything to kinda combat that to where it can still

[00:39:02] Outro: detect the score?

[00:39:03] Outro: It is by choice.

[00:39:04] Outro: I mean, you get to decide where the cameras go.

[00:39:08] Outro: It could be only the common area of the, of of your apartment or your your dwelling, your place of residence.

[00:39:15] Outro: It could be in the hallway.

[00:39:17] Outro: It could be the, the rec room, if you will.

[00:39:23] Outro: Osso it is by choice.

[00:39:24] Outro: We're we're not shoving anything down anyone's throat.

[00:39:28] Outro: But the idea is that, and I'm sure you you know this as well because you've experienced violence, abusers can only keep their poker face for so long.

[00:39:42] Outro: I mean, they could be they could appear goody goody for a month, a couple of weeks, even a couple of months, a couple of days, but sure enough, their abusive colors will they will, reveal themselves, if you will.

[00:39:59] Outro: So there are options with the whole, the package, definitely as far as what cameras or where the cameras will be installed.

[00:40:10] Outro: And then the what's great about my app that I'm proud of is that you don't have to press a button to detect it because then it's too late.

[00:40:21] Outro: The app detects the violence for you.

[00:40:24] Outro: So it's not like, wow.

[00:40:27] Outro: I wish I had a camera to capture that.

[00:40:30] Outro: It'll pick it up and it won't pick up, like I said, conversations or documents, but the violence.

[00:40:36] Outro: And this is the areas that I'm getting, improvement upon where it the false alarms are are decreased, where it's more precise on the type of or, I should say violence abuse, where it won't detect roughhousing or different types of roughhousing.

[00:40:56] Outro: And I know, like, for example, sex, right?

[00:40:59] Outro: There's people that, they prefer Again, it it it's got to match that level of, fear of worry, of anxiety, of, panic.

[00:41:15] Outro: So it's AI and facial recognition that's always being approved and improved upon.

[00:41:22] Outro: So I hope I answered the question.

[00:41:26] Intro: Yeah.

[00:41:26] Intro: No.

[00:41:27] Intro: It you know, just things that I'm kinda thinking about off the top of my head here because I'm I'm very interested in this.

[00:41:32] Intro: I do see this as a possible this is a movement that could make a huge difference in the world of abuse, in the world of violence, both inside and outside of the home.

[00:41:43] Intro: You know?

[00:41:44] Intro: So I absolutely see the value here.

[00:41:46] Intro: Definitely something I want to learn more about because I do have some questions that could be concerns, you know?

[00:41:55] Intro: So I would never come out and say, like, nope.

[00:41:57] Intro: This is a terrible idea.

[00:41:58] Intro: I hate it.

[00:41:59] Intro: I don't want the invasion of privacy.

[00:42:00] Intro: I would say that cautiously with concern, I am interested in this, and I kinda want to investigate it more as that possible answer.

[00:42:09] Intro: So I guess my next question would be, how do we find out that information?

[00:42:14] Intro: But more specifically, you know, who needs to be searching into your product and finding out this information?

[00:42:19] Intro: Is it truly just anyone and everyone in the world?

[00:42:23] Intro: Or is this just something where you really kinda probably want these investors and people who are purchasing homes and renting them out and that kind

[00:42:31] Outro: of stuff?

[00:42:32] Outro: You mean who would be a potential customer?

[00:42:36] Outro: Okay.

[00:42:37] Intro: Yeah.

[00:42:37] Intro: Like, who's your ideal client type thing?

[00:42:39] Outro: I would say landlords, property owners, property managers.

[00:42:44] Outro: We want this to propagate over all types of residency, as I mentioned, whether you rent, whether you own, whether you have a mortgage or not.

[00:42:51] Outro: So you could be only the owner or the mortgage holder of your your your single family home, for example.

[00:43:01] Outro: But let's say you're with a partner that is abusive.

[00:43:07] Outro: Then what?

[00:43:09] Outro: Well, this would be we are looking to make this a standard.

[00:43:13] Outro: So our goal is to have this propagate over all residency, all types of residency, and to make this a standard where, yeah, there should be no violence, no abuse, no chaos, no dysfunction.

[00:43:30] Outro: So that is the goal.

[00:43:33] Outro: And so it kind of puts it it acts as a deterrent for anyone if your partner is thinking, well, I'll go elsewhere.

[00:43:45] Outro: We're just gonna move elsewhere.

[00:43:47] Outro: No.

[00:43:48] Outro: Hopefully, that property will be oh, so safe certified.

[00:43:51] Outro: Okay.

[00:43:51] Outro: Move from there.

[00:43:52] Outro: No, that property will be OSO SAIF certified.

[00:43:55] Outro: It has to become a standard because otherwise the abuser has too much.

[00:44:02] Outro: They have freedom.

[00:44:03] Outro: They well, freedom is a two way street.

[00:44:06] Outro: That's the wrong word.

[00:44:08] Outro: They will be allowed to do whatever they want to you, and they need not to be.

[00:44:13] Outro: So and this is where the education complements the technology and the technology complements the education.

[00:44:20] Outro: So it's not just the technology that we are promoting, that we are marketing.

[00:44:25] Outro: It's also the techno the, excuse me, the education.

[00:44:29] Outro: So we educate abusers or would be abusers, and we don't call them abusers.

[00:44:35] Outro: We're not going to say, okay.

[00:44:36] Outro: We're going to have class now.

[00:44:38] Outro: All of you abusers stand up, and all of you victims, No.

[00:44:43] Outro: Obviously not.

[00:44:44] Outro: We do a blanket education for everyone, whether you're safe at home or not safe at home, because quite frankly, all of this, the education, knowing the facts, the statistics, the warning signs, and we make it interactive where by the end of the education, the last component of the seminar, we put it to practice.

[00:45:07] Outro: We give scenarios and we say, okay, based on what you learned, how are you going to handle this?

[00:45:15] Outro: Are you going to beat your kid?

[00:45:17] Outro: Are you going to beat your partner?

[00:45:19] Outro: Are you going to and and we realize people lie.

[00:45:25] Outro: Right?

[00:45:25] Outro: They're gonna lie.

[00:45:27] Outro: They're gonna say, well, yeah, I'm I'm I'm great.

[00:45:29] Outro: This is great.

[00:45:30] Outro: I sign.

[00:45:31] Outro: But like I said, your abusive colors, if if that's what you are, they're gonna show.

[00:45:39] Outro: So we do the the we do the setup before.

[00:45:44] Outro: We do the interactive where it's it's a practice, and we continue that practice.

[00:45:50] Outro: So it's not like we're saying, okay, install the cameras.

[00:45:55] Outro: Okay.

[00:45:55] Outro: We're going to watch you.

[00:45:57] Outro: And when an episode occurs, well, you're Outro.

[00:46:01] Outro: And no, there's education with that too.

[00:46:03] Outro: There has to be both because otherwise it defeats the purpose and, and abusers need to be educated.

[00:46:12] Outro: If you don't abuse, you need to be educated.

[00:46:15] Outro: This if if you're if you're respectful in your household, this is just going to reinforce everything that you already know.

[00:46:24] Outro: And it may Osso, it's going to make it even better.

[00:46:29] Outro: It's going to even give you more tools and more resources to handle a bully.

[00:46:36] Outro: If your kid has to deal with a bully at school or their your kid is dating someone and there are red flags like, wait a minute.

[00:46:46] Outro: What did he do to you?

[00:46:47] Outro: And what does she say to you?

[00:46:49] Outro: And so these are all they go hand in hand, John.

[00:46:53] Outro: You know, the education and the technology, they have it it has to be together.

[00:46:59] Outro: So, so this makes for better residency for everyone.

[00:47:05] Outro: You know?

[00:47:07] Outro: Yeah.

[00:47:07] Outro: And and I know I'm generalizing.

[00:47:09] Outro: Like, you know, they say in business, you you have to narrow in on your market.

[00:47:14] Outro: You have you're being too general.

[00:47:17] Outro: I get it.

[00:47:18] Outro: But I guess the short term answer right now is landlords and tenants and property managers.

[00:47:29] Outro: But the long term, and I would say as soon as possible, it's all residency, all residency, really.

[00:47:40] Outro: There's no excuse for abuse.

[00:47:43] Outro: There just isn't, You know?

[00:47:45] Outro: And we're not saying we at Osso safe.

[00:47:48] Outro: We're not saying everything is going to be perfect.

[00:47:51] Outro: You're never going to get into a fight with your spouse ever again after Outro seminar.

00:47:56 Osso Safe: Creating Safe Spaces for Families

[00:47:56] Outro: We're not you're not going to, have any conflict.

[00:48:00] Outro: Of course, there's gonna be conflict.

[00:48:02] Outro: You're going to disagree with your partner.

[00:48:05] Outro: You're going to have problems with your children as they get older.

[00:48:09] Outro: We're not saying, oh, it's going to be all, rosy and perfect, but there's a way to disagree.

[00:48:18] Outro: There's a way to be in conflict.

[00:48:20] Outro: And that boundary is that you'll never cross the line of abuse, Not verbal, not physical, not sexual not sexual.

[00:48:29] Outro: So there's a way to fight.

[00:48:32] Outro: There's a way to disagree.

[00:48:34] Outro: So just that alone, that component, we think is very valuable in any household, any household, especially if you come from violence and you, you mentioned this in your own household, you're not given tools, you know, you're not given resources.

[00:48:53] Outro: You're not.

[00:48:54] Outro: It's not explained to you.

[00:48:57] Outro: Don't ever hit.

[00:48:58] Outro: Don't ever punch.

[00:48:59] Outro: Don't ever verbal you never call anyone in your family a bitch, a slut, a whore, a tramp, a sleaze, a floozy, a bimbo, a thot, a skank.

[00:49:10] Outro: All of that is verbal abuse.

[00:49:13] Outro: So we feel that before the keys are given to you for your rental or a property, you need to become Osso certified.

[00:49:26] Outro: So that way, any episodes are prevented.

[00:49:31] Outro: You know?

[00:49:31] Outro: They're they're just prevented.

[00:49:34] Outro: I hope I hope I make sense.

[00:49:35] Outro: You know?

[00:49:36] Intro: Yeah.

[00:49:38] Intro: No.

[00:49:38] Intro: You absolutely do.

[00:49:39] Intro: So my next question would be, what is your plan for funding?

[00:49:42] Intro: You know, where is this going to come from?

[00:49:45] Intro: Is this going to cost the person who's partaking in it?

[00:49:48] Intro: You know, is the app going to be a paid app type thing?

[00:49:52] Intro: Kinda what is your plan on that as far as how the company will be making money to continue these improvements and to put on these seminars and push this technological advance.

[00:50:02] Outro: Our price point for each unit, no matter how many people are in the unit, you can live alone or you could live with your whole family with 3, 4, or 5 children.

[00:50:12] Outro: It's a $125 per unit, and that covers the entire package.

[00:50:18] Outro: So, so and and it's just the one time fee for the landlord.

[00:50:23] Outro: You pay for the $125 per unit.

[00:50:27] Outro: Now there are levels to the certifications.

[00:50:31] Outro: There's 1st level, 2nd level, 3rd level.

[00:50:35] Outro: That's the first level, getting everybody educated, getting the cameras installed, signing the policy.

[00:50:43] Outro: The sign goes outside of the property, and and then there are therapists assigned to the property.

[00:50:51] Outro: So let's say that there's violence that happens.

[00:50:55] Outro: So then we move to the second level, and that's where, a an arrangement is worked out between the therapist and the tenant or the the resident where they need more therapy.

[00:51:07] Outro: It is more it is more involved, more, I don't wanna say aggressive, but more, more involved because obviously something happened.

[00:51:20] Outro: You hit her.

[00:51:22] Outro: He hit you.

[00:51:23] Outro: Some something happened or there was an altercation.

[00:51:27] Outro: So, so that the abuser is removed from the premises, and then we go with extra therapy for the rest of the family unit provided that they could still pay the rent or the mortgage.

[00:51:40] Outro: The 3rd level of Osso safe certification is if both parents are abusive, And that's when we step in with our own security and we get the child to safety, whoever the child names, aunt, uncle, grandparent, close family, friend.

[00:51:57] Outro: So but as a base, cost, it's a $125 per unit.

[00:52:03] Outro: And I have tested this.

[00:52:05] Outro: I've asked many people, even in the real estate industry as well as other industries.

[00:52:11] Outro: And I and like I said, I consulted with the with our small team of lawyers.

[00:52:16] Outro: That's very reasonable.

[00:52:18] Outro: That is doable.

[00:52:19] Outro: It's it's not, it's it's, it's very user friendly, if you will, you know, you're not John break the bank.

[00:52:33] Outro: And like I said, it's a one time deal for the landlord.

[00:52:36] Outro: Like, the landlord did his or her part.

[00:52:39] Outro: They got their property Osso safe certified.

[00:52:41] Outro: The first level is all is all it's all, it's established.

[00:52:47] Outro: Okay.

[00:52:48] Outro: And then we take it from there.

[00:52:52] Outro: Yeah.

[00:52:52] Outro: And we've had

[00:52:54] Intro: Is that is that an annual fee or you're saying lifetime for the unit?

[00:53:00] Outro: Yeah.

[00:53:01] Outro: Lifetime for the unit.

[00:53:02] Outro: And then every year, we strongly recommend to get it to do a a, like, a review a review, you know, like, once a year.

[00:53:13] Outro: You know, as real real estate agents, we have to go through our continued education credits and everything every 2 years.

[00:53:20] Outro: Well, this would be something comparable because, you know, you get new people in your family.

[00:53:26] Outro: Maybe you have one child.

[00:53:27] Outro: Now you have 2 children.

[00:53:30] Outro: You broke up with somebody, so now there's different, living arrangements.

[00:53:37] Outro: So we recommend once a year to re get the education done, get everybody, if you will, re Osso save certified or just like a renewal.

[00:53:50] Outro: It it would be like a renewal.

[00:53:52] Outro: But, yeah, for the landlord, it would just be a one time $125 per unit, and that's it.

[00:54:00] Outro: And that's it.

[00:54:02] Intro: Even if he has another family move in, you know, let's say, and this family lasted 2 years, and then 2 years from now, a new family moves in.

[00:54:10] Intro: His new business

[00:54:11] Outro: is coming.

[00:54:11] Outro: With a new family, it's a new education.

[00:54:14] Outro: Right?

[00:54:14] Outro: It's a new lease, if you will.

[00:54:16] Outro: So yeah.

[00:54:17] Outro: Yeah.

[00:54:17] Outro: It it's yeah.

[00:54:18] Outro: So excuse me.

[00:54:19] Outro: It's not for the life of the unit, the life of the people in the unit.

[00:54:23] Intro: Perfect.

[00:54:25] Intro: Got it.

[00:54:25] Intro: Yeah.

[00:54:25] Intro: No.

[00:54:26] Intro: No.

[00:54:26] Intro: These are just trying to understand.

[00:54:27] Intro: Absolutely.

[00:54:28] Intro: More

[00:54:28] Outro: sure.

[00:54:30] Intro: I I've got I'm sorry.

[00:54:32] Intro: I don't mean to interrupt, but I have, like, probably 2 more hours worth of questions I could ask you.

[00:54:37] Intro: I mean, this is this is so it's so different.

[00:54:41] Intro: Right?

[00:54:41] Intro: So it's something that is definitely worth investigating.

[00:54:44] Intro: So to the listener who's out there right now, because unfortunately, we just don't have time.

[00:54:49] Intro: Like, it it could probably take the rest of the day to get every detail that you need to get out to the public.

[00:54:55] Intro: So for that listener that wants to connect and kinda do some of this digging and investigating, how do we get in touch with your product, with you Yes.

[00:55:02] Outro: Our website is Osso.

[00:55:05] Outro: And on the website, it explains more in detail the Osso safe home sweet home package, the certifications, what's involved that breaks it, in into components.

[00:55:15] Outro: So that way, it's a better understanding.

[00:55:17] Outro: We are on all the major social media platforms, Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, And I just started about a year now, a TikTok and a YouTube dedicated to kids, whether they're safe at home or not safe at home, the Osso Safe Kids channel, if you will.

[00:55:37] Outro: And we talk about abuse and safety and respect.

[00:55:41] Outro: And if you are of dating age, what are the warning signs to look out for?

[00:55:47] Outro: And also we have, behind me, my children's book.

[00:55:51] Outro: I I just published a children's book.

[00:55:53] Outro: It's called Home Safe Home For You and Me.

[00:55:55] Outro: And this book will be a staple in certifications because it lays the groundwork, especially for kids.

[00:56:03] Outro: Are you safe at home?

[00:56:05] Outro: The difference between abuse and non abuse, the difference between respect and disrespect, and to give them voice that they have choice over their residency.

[00:56:16] Outro: So these are the best ways to reach us, really.

00:56:21 Empowering Children to Stay Safe Through Innovative Solutions

[00:56:21] Intro: So every every person that's on my show would not disagree that if somebody would come to you and start giving you money, that that would be a huge resource for you and help you out.

[00:56:31] Intro: Right?

[00:56:32] Intro: Everybody needs money to survive and live and grow.

[00:56:35] Intro: But what is it that our listeners could do that would support your mission and what you have going on?

[00:56:43] Intro: What is your biggest need right now that's going to help you really dial this thing in and get it out for you?

[00:56:49] Outro: With children or with children that they care about that are not safe at home, tell those children whether they're at school, whether they are at camp, do not go home.

[00:57:01] Outro: Don't go home.

[00:57:02] Outro: Stay at school.

[00:57:03] Outro: Say their cheer.

[00:57:04] Outro: I wanna live where I am Osso safe and I am also safe with whoever that is, an aunt, an uncle, a grandparent, a close family friend.

[00:57:12] Outro: And if they have no one, just say the cheer.

[00:57:15] Outro: I wanna live where I am Osso safe, and I am also safe with that the kids need to band together, that schools need to be instrumental in creating a safe environment for their students, especially the ones that are not safe at home, to help them to get to safety.

[00:57:33] Outro: Don't let them go home.

[00:57:35] Outro: Schools know the kids that are troubled at home, just by the sheer court orders and restraining orders and how they behave at school.

[00:57:44] Outro: Right?

[00:57:44] Outro: Teachers are with their students all day long.

[00:57:47] Outro: Don't let them go home.

[00:57:48] Outro: I know it's avant garde.

[00:57:50] Outro: I know it's pretty out of the box, but do not bother calling child protective services.

[00:57:57] Outro: I I speak from personal and professional experience.

[00:58:00] Outro: They need to rename themselves APA, abusive power protection agency, because that's who they protect.

[00:58:07] Outro: Give voice to their students, to those kids that are not safe at home.

[00:58:12] Outro: They know who makes them feel safe.

[00:58:14] Outro: Get them there.

[00:58:15] Outro: That's what I would say.

[00:58:19] Intro: Awesome.

[00:58:20] Intro: Sabrina, I mean, I hate to have to even end this thing because it's been such a great conversation, and it is it's an interesting topic.

[00:58:29] Intro: You know?

[00:58:29] Intro: I'll be a 100% honest.

[00:58:31] Intro: There's definitely more information I need before I'm ready to pay the fee and download the app, but it's it's something that I'm interested in as a possible solution for this stuff.

[00:58:40] Intro: And I just wish you the best of luck kinda dialing it in

[00:58:43] John Kelley: and getting this thing out there

[00:58:44] Outro: to everybody.

[00:58:45] Outro: Thank you so much for your positive feedback, all your questions.

[00:58:48] Outro: This will help your listeners, and it it will help us as well to improve and and and, and and gain more momentum.

[00:58:56] Outro: So thank you.

[00:59:01] Intro: You're very welcome.

[00:59:02] Intro: Listeners, thank you as well for tuning in to another episode of Small Business Origins and hearing that story, the things that we shared, the things that we talked about.

[00:59:11] Intro: It's such an important topic, and I would absolutely encourage you to just check out the website, check out what she has going on, see if this is something that you think could be a good fit.

[00:59:21] Intro: And, of course, you know, send in those recommendations and questions and all of those things that you have.

[00:59:26] Intro: Do some research and find out if this is something that could work for you because I definitely think this is something we need to look into a little bit more.

00:59:33 Discussion on Abusive Relationships and OhSoSafe

[00:59:33] Intro: But that's it for us, man.

[00:59:35] Intro: We're gonna have all of this stuff down in the show notes for you, some links and resources to places that you can get help if you are in an abusive situation.

[00:59:43] Intro: Of course, we're gonna have links to today's guests and, today's guest and all of the stuff OhSoSafe has going on.

[00:59:50] Intro: So make sure you check those things out.

[00:59:51] Intro: And like I said, just do your due diligence and find out if this is something that could be good for you or someone that you know.

[00:59:58] Intro: Other than that, we'll see you on the next episode of Small Business Origins as we have every single week, and I can't thank you again enough for being here.

[01:00:05] Intro: And as always, stay beefy, my friends.

[01:00:11] John Kelley: Thanks for listening to another episode of Small Business Origins.

[01:00:14] Sabrina Osso: I love an origin story.

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[01:00:21] John Kelley: Guys, check this out.

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