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How This 28-Year-Old Built A $1M Lead Gen Business for Real Estate

In #45, Michael Sikand (@michaelsikand) and Simran Sandhu (@simmy) discuss the founders of Folk and ConvertWire. First up is Simo Lemhandez, a late-twenties entrepreneur from France, who is building Folk, a next-gen CRM designed to manage all types of relationships—sales, recruiting, partnerships, and investors. With a sleek, Notion-like UI, Folk has raised millions from top investment firms like Accel and has even won product of the year on Product Hunt. Next is Jack Sory, a 28-year-old entrepreneur who runs ConvertWire, a lead generation business for real estate. Jack's business model focuses on providing high-quality leads through a team of cold callers based in the Philippines. By emphasizing quality over quantity, Jack has built a subscription-based service that generates between half a million and a million dollars annually.

00:00 - Introduction to Our Future Podcast

00:32 - Overview of Featured Entrepreneurs

01:27 - Folk: Venture-Backed CRM Tool from France

03:16 - Unique Features of the CRM Tool

04:38 - Importance of Internal Database for Companies

05:20 - Fundraising Strategy and Operator Involvement

06:10 - White Glove Onboarding Approach

07:34 - Debate on Demos vs. Self-Serve Platforms

09:27 - Personal Experience with Software Onboarding

11:11 - Atlassian's Product-Led Growth Strategy

12:47 - Impressive Entrepreneurs from France and Canada

14:39 - Building a Holding Company in Sales Tech

16:29 - Next Story: Jack Sory - Real Estate Lead Generation

18:35 - Importance of Quality in Lead Generation

20:33 - Challenges in Real Estate Lead Generation

22:12 - Protecting Cold Callers from Being Poached

24:04 - Loyalty and Treatment of Overseas Contractors

25:57 - Services Offered by Jack Sori's Team

27:06 - Finding New Opportunities in Real Estate

30:14 - Long-Term Strategy in Lead Generation

31:01 - Creative Signals for Targeting Leads

31:49 - Closing Remarks and Outro

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