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That is a win.
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But why is but that's what I don't understand All that stuff you said about Tua number one in yards.
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Okay, he's got lethal weapons to throw to, why is he number 12?
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Because I don't trust him.
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This is former Chicago Bear, desmond Clark, and y'all hit me on many podcasts, but when y'all hit me on Pick'em Pros, y'all know it's all about family.
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This ain't just business.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back.
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You know who it is?
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I am Derek Thompson and I'm Diego Thompson.
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And who?
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are we?
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We're the Pick'em Pros.
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We are the Pick'em Pros coming back at you in the house with episode 104 of who Ya Got Father-Son Dynamic Duo.
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Right now it's the summertime, which means it is fantasy football and we're diving into all things fantasy.
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My man.
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Yeah man, Fantasy football is what I do.
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Yeah, yeah, fantasy football is what I do.
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Yeah, yeah, fantasy football is what I do.
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I've got the trophies, I've got the rings, I'm ready to win another championship man, I don't think you have any rings.
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I do have rings.
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It's all about titles.
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You know what I mean.
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If you're not winning titles, you're not really playing, you know?
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Okay, all right.
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Well, hey, today we are ranking our top 20 fantasy quarterbacks.
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We've already given you our top 20 wide receivers.
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You can go back and check that out.
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We've given you our top 20 running backs.
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We did that from the West Coast last week and now we're back home in Raleigh, north Carolina, and we are going to go ahead and give you our top 20 quarterbacks.
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So, before we go into our rankings, you're going to go, I'm going to go.
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We'll do 20 through 11, and then we'll go through our top 10.
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But before we dive into these rankings, let's first give some tips on drafting quarterbacks.
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Man, what tips do you want to give everybody in terms of how you draft your quarterback?
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Yo, I know I personally don't like to draft quarterbacks in the first few rounds.
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I don't like to start until maybe the fourth, fifth round.
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I like to get my QB first.
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Three rounds usually go skill position, but if you want to make a big leap and go for a QB, maybe get Josh Allen, a guy who can throw for a lot of yards and run for a lot of yards and he's never been hurt before, so you don't have to worry about him being injured.
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So yeah.
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So why don't you take, why don't you take a quarterback in the first few rounds?
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uh, it's just not as valuable.
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You know, I'm saying because you can get.
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You can get quarterbacks later, so I spend a pick on a quarterback early, right yeah, no, and I agree with you.
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I have the same philosophy.
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I feel that quarterbacks really one through 12.
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There's not a lot of difference.
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Um, there's, you know the.
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The difference is minimal.
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Where it's more valuable for you to build around the quarterback, it's more valuable for you to get those wide receivers that they're going to throw, to get the running backs, get those positions and then get your quarterback, because most teams carry one quarterback.
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So no one's going to start drafting their second quarterback until seventh round at earliest, probably eighth round.
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So you've got top 12 quarterbacks on the board the first six, seven rounds.
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So you can wait and stack your receivers, get your running backs and then get your quarterback, and you still have a quarterback that's going to put up big numbers.
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So that's our philosophy and the way that we like to do it.
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All right, yeah, yeah.
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Do you have any other tips?
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on drafting.
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I think that's it.
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Yeah, so I've got a few more.
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You always want to factor in health.
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I think that's it in.
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You want to factor the schedule in and you just want to factor how high-powered the offense is.
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If it's a high-powered offense, that's going to make you want to go with that quarterback over a team that's not going to have the ball that much, or a team that's going to run more, so you want to factor all those things in, especially as you're drafting your backup.
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So that's something important to consider.
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All right, well, hey, one last thing, man, how many quarterbacks do you like to carry?
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Do you like to carry two, or do you like to carry three?
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I just carry two.
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Okay, because the third.
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Unless the two quarterbacks have the same bye week, I might bring on a third for like a week, but I usually don't like to carry three.
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Just use that extra position on like a receiver or something, yeah.
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Okay to carry three.
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Just use that extra position on like a receiver or something, yeah, okay.
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Yeah, yeah, I agree, it depends on the situation.
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Every now and then you may want to have a third, especially if you have a a high risk um quarterback.
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So like, if you have aaron rogers this year, maybe you go three, just to you know, go a little deeper there.
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But yeah, yeah, I think for the most part you typically want to have two quarterbacks, all right, well, man, go ahead and start us off, give us your 20 through 11, and then I'll give you my 20 through 11, and then we'll go top 10.
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Who you got?
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Okay, number 20, I got Baker Mayfield from the Tampa Bay Bucs Last year.
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He had a Pro Bowl-caliber season with the Bucs.
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Okay, he had a Pro Bowl caliber season with the Bucs.
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Okay, so you even laughing.
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You laughing saying that.
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Okay, so your old guy Baker, who used to be a Carolina Panther so those of you that don't know, diego's the biggest Carolina Panther homer.
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So you're starting off with an old Panther as your number 20.
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He wasn't good for the Panthers, but anyway, he had a Pro Bowl caliber season last year and he is without his offensive coordinator, dave Canales, who has gone from team to team and turned their quarterback situation around.
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I'll tell you more about that later, but he has left, so maybe he may decline.
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But he does have two great receivers in Evans and Godwin.
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So, yeah, they have a good team there.
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Number 19, I have Bryce Young of the Carolina Panthers.
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Carolina Panthers.
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Anyway, he was the number one draft pick.
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In case you guys didn't know, 2023.
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That was a long time ago, that was just last year.
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But anyway, he's the number one draft pick and he didn't have the best season last year.
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Okay, there's a lot of rookies okay a lot of rookies start off.
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They don't have their best years start off, but, um, he did beat cj shroud in the game and, um, you know they do have better receiving core.
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Adam thielen was the best slot receiver in the nfl last year and to add on with that they have Deontay Johnson.
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He's one of the best route runners in the NFL and a great number one receiver.
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And they drafted Xavier Leguette, who's an absolute monster on the field.
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He ran like 22 miles an hour on the field last year, so he's really fast.
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He's going to be a good addition to the team last year.
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So he's really fast.
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He's going to be a good addition to the team.
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And they got added to their running backs, added to their tight ends, and their head coach, dave Canales, is the quarterback wizard.
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He has turned quarterback situations around.
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I see you rocking the Bryce Young jersey.
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I am One of the few people that actually have it.
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There's going to be a lot more people that have it after this year.
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Better watch out, okay All right.
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Anyway, number 18, we have Caleb Williams, the rookie from the Chicago Bears, Number one overall pick for this year.
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I got him this high because he has a good team around him.
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He has DJ Moore, keenan Allen, the rookie first round receiver, roma dunze, um, deandre swift in the backfield.
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They have a good team.
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I think he's gonna put up good numbers with those guys.
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All right, number 17 I got trevor lawrence of the jags.
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Um, yeah, he, um I don't know what to say about him.
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He he's a solid QB and he got paid, and I think he's going to want to bounce back because the Jags didn't reach expectations last year, no, so I think he's going to want to show he was deserving of the contract he got.
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He'll have a better year this year.
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Yeah, all right.
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Number 16, I got Kirk Cousins from the Falcons, new QB on the Falcons, coming off that torn Achilles, so I don't know how well he's going to start off.
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He put up good numbers in Minnesota Even though he had Justin.
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Jefferson doesn't have him anymore.
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I think he'll still be okay.
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Number 15, I got Aaron Rogers of the New York Jets.
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Would have him in the top 10, but with his injury history the torn Achilles last year I think he's not as reliable this year and I think 15 is a good spot to have Matt.
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So you've got your torn Achilles QBs back-to-back.
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Yep.
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These are guys that could be higher on the list, but I don't know how they will start off next year and they're on new teams.
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So these are backup QBs?
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Then yeah, these are backup QBs.
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Number 14, I have Kyler Murray from the Cardinals.
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Last year or two he's been hurt with the ACL.
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That's affected him in both years, but now his ACL is fully healed, healed.
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He's got marvin harrison jr coming in.
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I think he's gonna put up some big numbers coming in the offense and, um, he's also a qb that can throw the ball really far.
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Just receivers, um hat can run a lot pick up points that way.
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So, um, I think he's a good, good qb.
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Have a high-level backup on your fantasy team.
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Okay, number 13, I have Justin Herbert from the Chargers.
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I'm kind of nervous about Justin Herbert having him as a starter because the receivers he doesn't have Keenan Allen or Mark Williams anymore, so his receiving core is a little less reliable.
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He was injured last year.
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He had a shoulder or something like that.
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His touchdowns have declined every single year since 2021.
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2021, he threw for 38 touchdowns.
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2022 was 25 touchdowns.
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Last year it was 20 touchdowns.
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It's been declining every year.
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I don't quite trust him as a starter anymore.
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And I've been saying, I've been saying for years on fantasy shows, go back, check out the previous shows.
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I've had Herbert rated lower.
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I always felt that from a rating standpoint his rating was much higher than the production, and now I think people are starting to see that.
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Yeah, because now he's around on ESPN esp.
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I think I'm at 14 and I have him at 13, so I'm in the same area, number 12, I have tua tug of iloa.
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He just got paid today.
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So he got paid today.
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I paid, he's a four-year 212 million dollar extension all right, 53 million a year, yeah, so.
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So this is friday, july 26th.
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Yep, just got paid time to record this okay yeah, he led the n led the nfl in passing yards last year.
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Yes about third and passing touchdowns he's not going to be skipping camp anymore no, he's going to be able to throw the ball to tyreek and waddle uh, especially in september when it's hot.
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So I think if you can have him on your team as a backup, that is a win.
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But that's what I don't understand.
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That's what you're going to see is different about my list.
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All that stuff you said about Tua, number one in yards Okay, he's got lethal weapons to throw to Okay.
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Why is he number 12?
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Because I don't trust him.
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His injury history man dude, he played all year last year, did he?
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Yeah, yeah he did, he, did, he did.
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I think yeah, injury.
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I think it's going to be okay.
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I think he's going to be okay.
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I think Tua is going to start.
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And he seems to decline.
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He puts up great numbers early.
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And even though he did the numbers overall, he was in the MVP.
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He was about to win MVP for about the first half of the season.
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He was the MVP frontrunner and then his numbers declined late in the season, and that's when you most need your QBs to put up big-time numbers.
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I love having Tua.
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I've had Tua on my rosters the last two years Was he the certified starter.
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What I did with him.
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Because of the injury history I had, I picked a backup pretty quick.
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I either picked him up as my first quarterback and then I quickly picked up another quarterback or I picked him up as a quick second.
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But he's a.
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He's a stud to have on your roster some kind of way.
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I would definitely try, and most people.
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He's going to be low on most drafts.
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You can probably get him seventh, eighth round.
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Tua is a steal to get.
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I'd like to have Tua on my team, but I don't trust him as my certified starter.
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To finish the season he's going to decline, especially when it gets cold.
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You got to have another guy.
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Last year I had him and dac you know, okay, and then I could just go with I could just go week, that's bad because both of them seem to decline late in the season.
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All right, but go go ahead anyway.
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Number 11 I have matthew stafford from the rams uh put up solid numbers last year.
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Not his best season.
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He did deal with a, I think, a few injury, maybe one injury last year.
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He missed about two games.
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But um, I'm confident I'm going in next year because he has.
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He has two certified uh top top 12 15 receivers puka nakua and cooper cup.
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Of course, uh, he's got uh kyron williams, the running back who who was putting up top five numbers last year, and he has the coach, sean McVay.
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So I think he's going to put up more Matthew Stafford-type numbers next year.
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Okay, all right.
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All right, so that's your 20 through 11.
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I'm going to go ahead and go through my 20 through 11.
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See, I'm coming at you from an executive standpoint, from a championship standpoint.
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That's why I got the crisp white shirt.
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Business I'm all about business.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So that's where, maybe because he had to go to work today.
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No, I don't know.
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I don't know if that has anything to do with it All right, this is business.
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I'm an NFL executive, all right.
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So I'm going to give you my 20 through Watson as my number 20.
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All right, now he may have been.
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I don't know what's so funny about that.
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Anyway, espn has him at number 17, so I've got him just a little lower.
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Okay, so your number 20 and 19,.
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I don't have you don't have Bryce on your list.
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No, I don't have Bryce on my list, no I do not All right, all right, no.
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No way on your list.
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no, I don't have bryce on my list.
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No, I do not all right.
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No, no way lost.
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No, how no, no I've got deshaun watson because he has a very high upside.
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So, again, we're talking about number 20, so we're talking about your second, third quarterback at this point.
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So I think deshaun has high value.
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Um, at some point he's gonna have to stay healthy and play, uh, an entire season.
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That guaranteed money is gonna run out at at some point I don't know he's what three, four years in how many more years does he have on his deal?
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he's gonna start thinking about the next deal, gonna have to start putting together a couple healthy seasons the um cleveland defense is loaded, they've got some weapons on offense, so all the the pieces are there for Deshaun to have a good year.
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It's just about health.
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So at number 20, that's great value.
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So I've got Deshaun Watson at number 20.
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Number 19, this is another guy you don't have on your list.
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Again, high value.
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I've got Geno Smith from Seattle.
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Okay, espn has him at 25.
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I think that's really low just looking at his weapons who is he throwing to?
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You know what I mean he's throwing to that beast bryce young throwing to.
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He has some good weapons we have no idea who bryce is throwing to.
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So I just told you his top three receivers are all amazing and we don't know any of them yes, we do.
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No, we don't be serious.
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You don't know deontay johnson no top receiver adam th we don't.