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I'm telling you because when I got past the closet, there was a shadow person attacking
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my wife.
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No, get out.
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You're not invited.
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This is extra creepy and everyone will see why later.
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I had no idea.
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I've never read this.
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I had no idea this was in here.
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Client!
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Um, I lost my spot.
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Oh my god.
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My brain hurts.
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I can't help but you really know.
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I'm so sorry.
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I can't.
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Hi, Caitlyn.
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Hi, Cassie.
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Hi, creepy people.
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Hello.
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This is... my brain broke.
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Do we say hello?
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Hello.
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Did we do that?
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Did we say hi, creepy people?
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Hello.
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This is my brain broke.
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Do we say hello?
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Hello.
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Do we say hello?
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Hello.
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Did we do that?
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Did we say hi, creepy people?
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Yeah, we did.
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My brain literally just broke.
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Yeah, it just broke.
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It, for sure, broke.
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I fixed it.
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She's sober.
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It's fine.
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I'm back.
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And if you're here and you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides,
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where we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and all things spooky
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and the Pacific Northwest and sometimes other places.
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Also there.
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Yeah.
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And there and then sometimes there.
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You get the idea.
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Anyways, we also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode because we like it.
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We like it.
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And we feel like it gives us insight into our topic and we're going to keep doing it.
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Yeah, it really does.
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And also, Caitlyn has a sign behind her that says tarot and like we don't want to be liars.
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Yeah.
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Kind of hacked you.
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You have a sign behind you that says spooky.
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Yeah.
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I don't want to be a liar about that.
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So it's always spooky.
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It's very spooky.
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Well, we actually have a Patreon if you didn't know.
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And we have people that join and there's different tiers and there's free trials.
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Oh, the free trials.
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And sometimes people join the free trial and then they actually sign up.
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And they're like, I don't want to cancel this.
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And they actually want to like give us, you know, a little change, a little money to help
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us along in our little passion project business.
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Yeah.
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I kind of say passion project actually.
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It's a business.
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I mean, two things can be true.
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I feel like I said that 1800 times today.
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You know, I feel like me and the rest of the world were all just learning this.
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You know, we're getting used to this fact.
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Yeah, I feel like it takes a minute to wrap your head around it.
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Well, you know what else is true?
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What?
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We have a new Patreon at the $10 tier.
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That is the Never Bundy tier.
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It is.
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Thankfully people agree with us.
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Never Bundy.
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Chris, not Caitlyn's Chris.
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We have multiple Chris's.
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We do have multiple Chris's in the creepy world.
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Yeah.
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It's not.
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It's almost like it's like a really good name.
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Yeah, like almost I would say one of the best names.
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It's up there.
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It starts with a C. His voice.
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That's right.
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I do feel like there's that.
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That's right.
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If your name starts with a C, you got, you got good things going for you.
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You're probably pretty cool.
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Pretty confident.
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Pretty courteous.
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Courteous.
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Courageous.
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Courageous.
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Classy.
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Christmas-y?.
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Like that literally has Chris in it.
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So there you go.
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There you go.
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Christmas-y Chris.
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Christmas-y Chris.
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Sorry if you don't celebrate Christmas.
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I apologize from the bottom of my heart.
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Like the depth is so shallow.
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All of a sudden it's like someone has canceled their Patreon membership.
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It's in their live streaming.
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He just felt it.
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He's like, oh, you made a Christmas joke.
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It's the war on Christmas.
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You know, that's the number one threat to this country. (Southern accent)
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Hilarious.
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You made that accent hilarious.
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It fits more than you ever know into this episode.
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Oh.
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I don't know how to feel about that.
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Because this is a creepy people Chronicles episode.
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So we read stories from our listeners and occasionally listen to stories from our listeners.
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And yeah, we'll get there.
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Okay.
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Well, that's enough of that.
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Let's start.
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All right.
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Um, I actually want to start with a little story.
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It was something cute that happened at my great grandma Ruby's memorial service.
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Her name was Ruby.
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Yes, her name was Ruby.
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Cassie, I don't think you told me that.
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And isn't it the sweetest?
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What?
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Are you gonna cry?
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I mean, you cry already.
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I'm so sorry.
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That was, that was the name of my first pet.
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Oh, Ruby.
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And I cried.
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I cried.
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I cried.
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I cried when my goldfish.
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She was goldfish!
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I'm so sorry.
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But you know, I had a very emotional connection with the bulls-well.
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Maybe this is her coming back to say "blub, blub."
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"blub, blub."
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I know where she's buried.
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No.
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I can go find her.
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Oh, she's fine.
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There anymore.
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Uh, sorry.
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Sorry, child, Caitlyn.
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Well, I mean, I don't expect like the entire goldfish to be the big fish.
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You know what we're getting?
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Just the teeny tiny bulls.
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So yes, my great grandma's name was Ruby.
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And that's my birthstone too.
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So like I always felt like, oh, we're cool.
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Because we have this little Ruby connection.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, she did pass recently and she was 96 or 97, I think.
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She'll look at that.
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Fuck, I thought I wrote it down.
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Just say in our 90s.
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I mean, if you're in your 90s, you don't care about how old you are in the same way that
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like a six year old is like, I'm six and a quarter.
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It's actually kind of funny because like on one of her birthdays, she swore to everyone
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that she was like a year older.
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Oh, really?
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They were like, but you were born this year and it's this year in the math.
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And she's like, I don't know how it works out, but this is how old I am.
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She was so stubborn and spicy.
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Okay.
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So she was born in 27.
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So she was 97.
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Okay.
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After make a correction, I was using the year 2024 and not the year 2023 when I did my math.
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She was 96 because she had passed in 2023.
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But funny because I did say that she was arguing that she was a year older than she actually
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was.
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So you know what?
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I just, I got you, great grandma Ruby.
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I'm on your side.
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I know how old you are.
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And I did forget to mention that she was born on St. Patrick's Day and at her memorial service,
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we got little Shamrock pins in honor of her because she just, she loved like St. Patrick's
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Day, everything Irish because she was born on that day.
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And so I did put the little pin on her alter today.
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So if you see the little little Shamrock pin that is in honor of my great grandma Ruby.
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So yes.
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It's crazy.
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So yes, it's crazy that I had like a great grandma my whole life.
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I always thought it.
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Everyone was like great grandma.
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Yeah.
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So it's pretty cool.
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It's cool.
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She had a lot of stories.
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Oh my gosh.
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I can imagine.
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I can imagine.
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She was very spicy.
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She was very well known in her nursing home.
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I'll just put it that way.
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So at her memorial, they were up there talking and we were at a very beautiful summer.
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I can't remember the name off the top of my head.
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So the service was in like a brick enclosure, but we were like outside and then behind the
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speaker, there was a window like didn't help me get out of glass.
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No, I had to.
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I think I had glass.
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There was like a window.
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So you could see trees and nature and shit behind.
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Oh, that's cool.
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So I was staring out at the trees and then I saw this giant ass fucking bird.
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Like, whoo, whoo, like land on a branch and it like did this like all dramatic thing.
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And I'm like, look, does it?
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I don't know if anyone else saw it.
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But I kind of a bird.
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First I was like, is that an owl?
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Because it was kind of far away.
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Yeah.
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I wasn't really sure.
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I was like, is that a hole?
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And then it like took off again.
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So it's giant wings and underneath have like white underneath.
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So it's like, I don't know if it was a hawk.
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It could have been a hawk.
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Those are super common.
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Yeah.
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Around.
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I didn't like get a good look at the shape of it.
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The way it had landed was like backwards.
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So I don't really get the get a good look at the shape.
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Yeah, like a look at it from like, kind of back.
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I think it was a hawk just from seeing so many.
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And I know I think they have like white under their wings.
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I think I went and looked it up.
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Yeah.
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Big ass bird either way.
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I don't think it was an eagle.
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No, I would have known by the head if it was a eagle.
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There are two.
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Yeah.
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And they're really big.
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Those are also.
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It was a really big bird.
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Yeah.
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No hawks are.
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I was going to say, I didn't disagree with you.
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I'm not super familiar with a ton of different birds.
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But yeah, the way you're describing it, that sounds like a hawk to me and to look at
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like different images of different breeds, I guess, of hawks.
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Like I would say, yeah, that's a fair guess.
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They're more common to see than an owl too.
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And it would be probably weird for an owl to be flying around it like noon.
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Yeah.
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I agree.
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Yeah.
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But it was really cool.
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And so I was just kept looking out there like, did I really see that?
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Like it's in the middle of this memorial.
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It was like this giant-ass bird like doing shenanigans in the tree.
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And I don't know, it was interesting.
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And then I remembered I had just heard on a podcast earlier that week that it was like
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a psychic podcast.
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Yeah.
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And she was saying how she'd always thought that like hawks were messages from the other
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side.
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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So I thought that thought it was pretty cool.
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And I think I wanted my great grandma send a little hawk down to say hi to everyone.
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That's interesting because, okay, I'm checking something really quick.
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Okay.
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So it's not just hawks.
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Oh, there's, I mean like every animal is like-
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No.
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Specifically, it said that birds are messengers from the spirit world.
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Yeah.
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And may even be the physical manifestation of angels.
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I don't know if you look that up at all, but-
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I didn't really look into it.
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I just know that like so many things are like messages from the other side.
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This really makes me want to look up our- our bird.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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So I'll have to look at that later.
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But it says specifically, this is interesting hawk.
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So they have like different meanings.
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Hawks, their supposed meaning is for- it says for vision and acuity.
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Mm.
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Which makes me think that like that is a really good way.
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Sending a hawk is like a really good way of someone who has passed on.
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For them to say, I've got my eye on you.
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I'm still watching over you.
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Well, I mean, obviously that was my next sentence.
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Shut up.
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Well, of course.
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No way.
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But yeah.
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Oh, it was like well hawks are like, you know, known for like being able to like see from above
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and like, maybe it's just that they're watching out from above, you know?
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And I was like, let me Google something and just like completely separate from this situation.
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Let me just find this like sort of metaphysical meaning and like let me be the one to say it.
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Because it's all about me.
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No, it's perfect.
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It's like, I just like, I don't know why I didn't look it up probably because I-
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That's so crazy though.
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I just like had my own meaning and so I didn't really look it up.
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But if it means that for you sort of intuitively.
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Yeah, it's affirming.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, I thought it was really cute.
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We were like, we went to see her pretty much every summer growing up.
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But then like obviously once I got into adult, we didn't visit very often until recently,
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like right before she passed.
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I think I talked about my visit.
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We did have like a weird spooky thing happen while we were there.
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And Grace had like such a great trip.
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Yeah.
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What I remember.
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It was really good.
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It was fun having like girl time with all with the fam.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But we weren't like super close growing up.
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So it was just nice to know like maybe, you know, she, and by the time I had visited her,
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she wasn't really talking much.
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We weren't sure if she actually knew who we were.
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Yeah.
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So it's nice.
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And then we have a story in our email from Clint.
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You remember Clint?
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I forgot.
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Clint sent us another story to read.
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Get out of here.
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Naturally I haven't ready yet.
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So I don't know what it says.
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Oh boy.
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Are you ready?
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I'm as ready as I'm going to be.
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All the way from Canadian.
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Yes.
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Hi Caitlin and Cassie.
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Hi.
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Hi Clint.
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Another C.
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That's right.
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All the C's.
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I'm just saying.
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We're just collecting creepy C people.
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It's fine.
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Yeah.
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Everyone who's listening who isn't a C name just change your names like not that hard.
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Or how about also we love you equally.
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Yeah, we love you whatever, whatever, whatever, however.
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I like how I'm the one giving off the mom energy in this.
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Like the least mom of all the mom being capable people.
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This is your circus and we are your monkeys.
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I guess.
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Double tie a new or alter later.
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Oh boy.
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Clint says since my last email you're still one of my three favorite podcasts and I have
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taken up tarot cards.
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That's awesome.
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Clint, I love that.
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That's one of the three.
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Who are the other two?
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I know.
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Well, they're really like really fucking awesome.
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Yeah.
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No.
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No competition.
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No.
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But we're like top from the three, right?
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But like if we sent you a deck of tarot cards, can we buy you?
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Tarot has really changed my life because of you.
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So thank you.
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I've been telling everyone about your podcast.
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And I saw more of my vision.
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Sorry I can't tell you about that.
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Oh, that's okay.
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Oh, I'm just like rereading.
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She's pre-reading.
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No, I'm rereading where it said tarot really changed my life because of you and I'm just
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really like holding onto that.
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I really want everyone in the world to do tarot.
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I really feel like that's our goal.
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Yeah.
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And also listen to True Crime.
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And unless you're a True Crime-er, unless you are the one doing the True Crime, don't listen
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to it because we don't have any tips.
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Unless it's going to make you not want to do it because you don't want to end up on a
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show.
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Oh, maybe that.
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Yeah.
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It's like two totally like sort of a dexter situation, right?
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Like something sets you on a path where you don't want to.
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Right.
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I hope so.
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But we can offer the world.
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I like that.
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Tarot and turning killers off because we're annoying.
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But I can tell you about another dream I had.
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This one won't make you cry.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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We'll challenge accepted.
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Maybe laugh a little bit like I did.
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What if we laugh until we cry?
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That would be on brand.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, this gets intense real quick, so let me like, but you said it was funny but okay.
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And why would you lie to us?
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Clint, you're messing with my emotions.
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Seriously.
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It started with me watching my own funeral.
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That's like yikes.
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The thought of Clint watching his own funeral.
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It like hurts my heart a little bit.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I'm physically unable to go to the place where I envision me envisioning my own
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funeral.
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No, we're just going to focus on Clint right now.
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Clint, no.
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Clint.
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Okay.
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Do you want, I had a vision of your funeral.
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I have no idea what it was like, but in my vision just now snap vision.
435
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It was like Doby's funeral from Harry Potter.
436
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And that's the saddest thing I've ever seen of my time.
437
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Oh.
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Friend...
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Friend...
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Okay.
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Okay.
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00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,040
Oh, my God.
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Okay.
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Oh, my God.
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You said we weren't going to cry.
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Why would you lie to us?
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We literally did it to ourselves.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So it started with me watching my own funeral.
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Then I'm walking around my house, checking on my family.
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When I go, you said we were going to cry.
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When I go into see my wife, I see her sleeping.
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Well description of my room, you enter through the door.
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There's a wall on the right and a short wall on the left.
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That's closest.
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Then you see my bed.
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And telling you, because when I got past the closet, there was a shadow person attacking
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my wife.
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No, get out.
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You're not invited.
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This is extra creepy and everyone will see why later.
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I had no idea.
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I've never read this.
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I had no idea this was in here.
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Clint.
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I lost my spot.
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Oh, my God.
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My brain hurts.
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This is so creepy.
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I'm so sorry.
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I can't.
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I can't.
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Okay.
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I grabbed him.
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We start wrestling.
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He bounced off the dresser and then fell through the bedside table as I'm punching the shadow
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person.
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I noticed Heather.
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I guess that's his wife.
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Heather woke up and was watching us.
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Then I saw my daughter watching us.
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That's when a portal opened a couple more shadow people grabbed me.
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This is crazy.
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They were dragging me towards the portal.
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I looked at my daughter, blue her a kiss.
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Clint, God damn it.
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You lied.
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Clint, we're mad at you now.
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I think you underestimated her.
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My all emotional.
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She's reading ahead and I can tell her already based on her.
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We're emotionally fragile.
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I can't face.
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Clint.
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Clint.
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Okay.
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I looked at my daughter, blue her a kiss.
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I looked at my left arm across my chest and over my right arm and that's how I would give
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her kisses.
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I would give her kisses and hugs.
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Oh my God.
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Seriously.
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I literally can't fucking read this.
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This is how I would give her kisses and hugs when she went on the school bus when she was
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younger.
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I literally thought like you were going to be dragged away and you're like saying you're
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going to be dragged away and you're going to be dragged away and you're going to be dragged.
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I think I just hit a new lock.
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I'm like waiting for the slapping part, Clint.
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Where does it get funny Clint?
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Okay.
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Then I said play time.
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Oh, wait, what?
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Then I said play time is open.
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I said play time is open.
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That's what I thought.
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Then I said play time as I was laughing.
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00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,600
I let the shadow people take me through the portal and that's when I woke up and laughed
520
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again.
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Question.
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Do you think it's possible that the shadow people only exist in our minds or do I get
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play time after?
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00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,920
Or do I get play time after I'm dead?
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00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,160
Please feel free to share with your listeners.
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00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,160
Take care of me.
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00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,160
Safe.
528
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,160
A fan of yours, Clint.
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Okay.
530
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:43,920
So I have to say immediately my impression is like the fact that he says play time and he's
531
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,360
like kind of laughing, right?
532
00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:58,360
As he is sort of, I don't know, collapsing into this portal, that makes me think in a way
533
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he's like, this is like, I don't know how else to put it other than play time.
534
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:08,040
This is play time.
535
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:15,160
I just distracted you from my family who are amongst the living and I saved them and
536
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it's like the biggest.
537
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:22,360
It's almost like I'm jumping in this portal with a bomb.
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00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:25,080
Like, "Haha, motherfuckers, you're going to take me out.
539
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,960
I'm going to take you with me."
540
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,200
Right.
541
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:35,600
That's how like just this overwhelming sense of like you won and they lost.
542
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:36,600
I don't know.
543
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,200
How else to describe that?
544
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,480
That's just the, I don't know.
545
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,760
I can't interpret it any other way in my mind.
546
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:51,160
I've been racking my brain in the last like a couple of minutes trying to think of this in
547
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:57,640
another lens or in another way and it's the only way I can like, you like it makes sense
548
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,640
to me.
549
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,760
That was kind of like what I was thinking at first but then until he said I woke up and
550
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:12,720
laughed again and then I was thinking like what if the portal was like his mind waking up
551
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,760
and the things were like trying to get to him like before he woke up and then he like
552
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,560
noticed he was waking up and he's like, "Haha motherfuckers, let's go and I'm bringing you
553
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:28,960
into my waking world and I'm going to beat you because it's daylight bitches, ain't no shadows
554
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,200
here."
555
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:38,160
That's an interesting like kind of still has the same impact though, right?
556
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,200
Because it's like, "Listen, you won.
557
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,640
They lost by it."
558
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,920
It is crazy though because it's like such a layered dream like going back to the beginning.
559
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,640
He is dead.
560
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:55,640
He's at his own funeral and then he's going around to try to like check on his family and
561
00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:02,400
that's when he sees the shadow people but then it's like then his daughter can see him.
562
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:08,640
Yeah, I feel like it's really interesting because it seems like at a certain point once he's
563
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:17,720
battling with the shadow people, both his wife and his daughter seem to like even in a nonverbal
564
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:23,880
way, he communicates that like it seems as though they can see him.
565
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:24,880
Yeah.
566
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:30,360
And I don't know, that's really odd to me as well but I just feel like this is like inception
567
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:31,360
level.
568
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:32,360
Yeah, it is.
569
00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:33,360
You know?
570
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:36,120
Gosh, and then awake of laughing.
571
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,720
I know, I'm not even imagining.
572
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,160
I have woken up.
573
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,160
I don't know.
574
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,080
Maybe laughing like maybe once or twice.
575
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,600
Crying, I'm probably a few times.
576
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,160
Yeah.
577
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,600
I feel like I've jolted away.
578
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,600
Yeah.
579
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:58,200
And even, yeah, just not even in an audible way.
580
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,200
Yeah.
581
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:06,200
I feel like more often than not because you know me, I'm just like this very like you emotions
582
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:14,920
and just feeling anything is so in a way like foreign to me.
583
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:15,920
Yeah.
584
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:21,480
It makes me sound like a robot but like if the shoe fits.
585
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,480
I don't know.
586
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:29,720
I feel like more than anything, I just wake up feeling like I'm jolted but it's inaudible
587
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:38,240
because I have this innate sense of like wanting to sort of like let up, quiet it down.
588
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,240
You know what I mean?
589
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,640
Like use your inside voice.
590
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,640
Yeah.
591
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:49,320
Like I've just woken up from a nightmare potentially and I'm like even in your sleep,
592
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,920
your sleeping sleepy state.
593
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:57,920
Listen, you don't stop being somebody who was raised by depression, Arab Midwesterners
594
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,360
just because you're sleeping because that's foolish.
595
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:02,360
Yeah.
596
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:03,360
Sleepiness for the day head.
597
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:04,360
You got to sleep with.
598
00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:10,440
Which was southern and you know we go back and forth.
599
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,440
Sleep with one eye open.
600
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:18,240
Or like both your eyes open but like only a little bit like a weirdo.
601
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:24,520
So I know I've told you and I think I've said this on a show but I don't breathe right.
602
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,520
Right.
603
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,520
Yeah.
604
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,520
Okay.
605
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,560
And no one seemed that surprised and I was like well thanks the fucking lot you guys.
606
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:39,200
Apparently I can't do anything right but literally apparently I can't because I also don't
607
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,200
link right.
608
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,200
Yeah.
609
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,200
I don't like that.
610
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,200
I think I've told you that.
611
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,200
Yeah.
612
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,200
But I don't know that we've ever talked about it on the show.
613
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,200
I don't know.
614
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,880
So I literally sleep kind of with both of my eyes a little bit open.
615
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,280
I don't even during daylight I don't even blink correctly.
616
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,280
No, God.
617
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,520
My eye doctor has watched this.
618
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,920
He has observed me blinking incorrectly.
619
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:12,360
It's like why you should take some fish while but also you don't blink right so that's
620
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:13,840
why your eyes will dry.
621
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,640
You should take some fish oil.
622
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,640
Yeah.
623
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:24,280
Okay, that'd be so great if I could just not have everything all of the bodily functions
624
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,440
that just I don't do them right.
625
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,920
You're just you're not not doing them wrong.
626
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,320
You're just dancing to the beat of your own drum.
627
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,120
You know, you're just doing a little different.
628
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:37,120
Yeah.
629
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:38,120
Doesn't meet it's wrong.
630
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,680
Anxiety is how I identify.
631
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,280
I'm just people don't blink completely anxious people don't breathe deeply.
632
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,640
This is where we are.
633
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,640
Yeah.
634
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,000
They also don't poop.
635
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,400
They also don't poop.
636
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,400
That's correct.
637
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,600
Thank you for reminding me.
638
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,600
You're welcome.
639
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaking of a Southern accent.
640
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:10,040
We had a I do too and I always call it a country accent for some stupid reason because I'm
641
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,000
not that smart.
642
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:20,040
And we have this like she's the dumbest person she or anyone else has ever known and that's
643
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,040
far from the truth.
644
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,880
The dumbest memory.
645
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,320
You guys we have something really exciting to share with you.
646
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,480
Let's hear a few words from our new pod besties.
647
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,440
Do you want to know the full story behind the Menendez brothers?
648
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,120
How about the accused Gilgo Beach serial killer or Candy Montgomery?
649
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,360
In our Killer Destinations podcast we immediately jump right to the story.
650
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,360
I'm Kathy.
651
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,200
And I'm Kathy and just like you we are obsessed with all things true crime.
652
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,760
We're also lifelong friends and on our Killer Destinations podcast we tell the best stories
653
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,960
and dive deep for all the interesting details.
654
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,480
We also interspersicational humor and have a little fun along the way but we never forget
655
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,920
that we're talking about real people and real families.
656
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:13,400
And to Killer Destinations every Tuesday for your true crime fix.
657
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:19,880
Check them out creepy people you can find their info in our show notes.
658
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:29,720
Well we got a story in the form of audio messages from a listener named Nick and you know
659
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,480
he just like slipped us a couple little spooky story.
660
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,880
He slipped us a spooky if you will.
661
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,880
Stop it.
662
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:37,880
Stop it.
663
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:46,360
So I have some audios to play for you of a spooky story and then if we we can play some
664
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,680
and then pause and discuss as necessary.
665
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:59,720
And you'll quickly see why I deeply apologize to this listener for all of the terrible
666
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,600
Southern accents I have ever done.
667
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,200
Oh my god.
668
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,200
This is why I don't breathe right.
669
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,200
Okay.
670
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,200
Apparently they don't mind because they sent us a story.
671
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:21,480
Okay so the story goes as an early child I always had a very uneasy feeling, living in
672
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:30,680
the woods in Tennessee, miles away from any neighbors or anyone just nothing but wildlife.
673
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:37,100
There were a lot of very dark and ominous feelings just that kind of overwhelming sense of
674
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:39,840
something is not right here.
675
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:49,320
And while you know doing simple stuff like riding three-wheelers through the woods or getting
676
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:54,760
up and just getting something to drink in the mouth of the night you would always feel like
677
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,960
someone was watching.
678
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,840
And then it got to the point where I was able to see them.
679
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:08,080
It was like at first it was just kind of like distortions and I wouldn't really pay no
680
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,080
attention to it.
681
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,520
Look away real quick do something else.
682
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,880
Whatever I was finished what I was doing.
683
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:19,640
And then I would pay more attention eventually when the feeling came too creepy and started
684
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:25,360
seeing the shadows of people or two people in particular.
685
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:35,000
Okay so shadowy people interesting.
686
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,000
Shadowy people.
687
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,240
And then we just talked about this in the last story.
688
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,240
I know Clio.
689
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,440
I don't.
690
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,040
Also Tennessee sounds creepy.
691
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:58,960
You know wow I just don't know I don't know about that.
692
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,680
It's got to be pretty humid right?
693
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,160
Should have tied it off.
694
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,160
Real humid tons of bugs.
695
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,240
Yeah bugs I was thinking bugs severely haunted place.
696
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,280
Also you can hear in the audio you can hear like birds and stuff.
697
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,440
Oh God.
698
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,720
I was wondering if that's what I was hearing.
699
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,560
Yeah you can hear birds in the audio.
700
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,520
So cute hopefully it transfers into that final.
701
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,920
Okay let's replay or play more.
702
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,920
Play on.
703
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:27,920
Play on.
704
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:35,880
They would pace back and forth along my walls in my room.
705
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,120
They have been seen by other people.
706
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,440
It would always be that overwhelming feeling like they were about to balance it anytime.
707
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,400
And you could fill the intention.
708
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,680
Like that's hard when described.
709
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,160
You could almost have a psychic link with these things and know what they're thinking.
710
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,160
And they don't have to say anything and it just didn't feel good.
711
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,160
All right.
712
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,520
Please don't say anything.
713
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,920
I wonder okay Clint you'll have to tell us like did you do you have like some sort of psychic
714
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,520
link with these.
715
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,800
I mean I know it was in a dream but like could you tell what they were thinking and stuff.
716
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,360
You'll have to tell us okay.
717
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,520
Did you have any commentary?
718
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,360
Oh I was just just please don't say anything.
719
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,360
I don't want it.
720
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,360
I don't it doesn't need to speak.
721
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,080
I'm just going to go ahead and move on.
722
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,080
It doesn't need to speak the shadow person.
723
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,600
Nothing nothing should speak.
724
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,600
No no one.
725
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,680
No testimony needed.
726
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,480
Dismissed.
727
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,080
They followed me around until I was about 18 or 19 years old.
728
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,880
I joined the military.
729
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,560
Went out of Tennessee into a different state.
730
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,960
Some weird things happened in boot camp.
731
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:02,000
Or a couple of bunks and empty barracks got bent overnight after filling that same filling
732
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,160
I would fill throughout my entire life.
733
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:15,080
I'll get back home and nothing ever happens again until I'm like last year or the year before.
734
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,920
I saw what felt like was the shadow person against my wall and I felt that uneasy filling
735
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,920
again.
736
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,920
No.
737
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,920
No.
738
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,400
Okay so I was like oh okay so they went away and there was like until.
739
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:37,400
So what happens now you just like still see them and feel weird as anything else happened?
740
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,400
No.
741
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,400
No.
742
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,400
Nothing else happened.
743
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,400
Well there's another story.
744
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,960
I was doing the military to make that stop as well.
745
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,960
That didn't even work.
746
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,760
There was bent up bunks.
747
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,480
That's what he said right.
748
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,800
The bunks are bent.
749
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:58,040
That was probably a government experiment.
750
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,040
Right.
751
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,040
Yeah.
752
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:05,360
I was thinking like like a really big magnet they were like how big of a magnet will be
753
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,360
need.
754
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:12,200
I was just thinking maybe they just fell apart because they're probably like update things
755
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,200
that often there in the military.
756
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,720
That feels valid as well.
757
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:20,320
They just broke their big dudes.
758
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:25,960
I just that's what I want to think not to not say I don't believe you or something but
759
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,960
I just trying to make it feel better.
760
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,640
Yeah we really want to rationalize this.
761
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,640
Yeah.
762
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,640
But we can't.
763
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,920
Also the next story it's like just a tiny bit worse and scarier.
764
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:39,920
Great.
765
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,920
Yeah.
766
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,920
I can't wait.
767
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:42,920
Oh wait I can.
768
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,680
Do you have anything else you want to talk about?
769
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:48,680
About them shoes.
770
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:54,920
I can't think of anything Taylor's.
771
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,920
Okay.
772
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:56,920
Okay.
773
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,920
Okay.
774
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,760
So next one I'm going to cut out the very beginning because he says names and I don't want
775
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,760
to include the names.
776
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,360
He is saying that he lives with his girlfriend and his kids.
777
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:14,240
We embodied some friends over creepy friends and we played court games and chess and video
778
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:15,640
games and all that.
779
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,480
Hey, oh creepy friends.
780
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,640
Were your card games, tarot cards?
781
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,960
Come on.
782
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,960
We know they were.
783
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,960
Maybe Oracle.
784
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,680
You're feeling nasty.
785
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:32,160
The thing of the day we decided to all sit down and do the Ouija board.
786
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,160
Oh okay.
787
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:44,040
Now she really wanted the Ouija board to work and she was really upset because as always
788
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,280
the Ouija board never worked for her.
789
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,280
Where?
790
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,240
So I started making fun of demons and calling them out.
791
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:53,240
Okay.
792
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:54,240
Zach Baggins.
793
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:57,240
Pretty much making everyone uncomfortable trying to give something to happen.
794
00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:58,240
Oh no.
795
00:37:58,240 --> 00:37:59,240
And of course nothing happened.
796
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:03,040
I know that the candle didn't blow out on its own.
797
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,320
Don't entice the demons.
798
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,920
I think by entice you mean antagonize.
799
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:10,920
Integanize, yeah.
800
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,680
Well the same thing.
801
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,320
But yes antagonize is what I meant.
802
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,720
That was the correct word.
803
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:16,720
Well okay.
804
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:23,240
So I feel like part of you wanted to be nice and entice like you're like, "Can we all
805
00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:24,240
demon?"
806
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:25,240
We're all demon.
807
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:26,740
Well demon, demon.
808
00:38:26,740 --> 00:38:32,240
I feel like that was more like, "Can we all know stupid demon?"
809
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:33,240
I don't know.
810
00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:34,240
I don't know.
811
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:38,240
Well let's see what happens.
812
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,240
Ouija board.
813
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:48,400
Eventually our friends left and everything was fine until we were about to go to sleep and
814
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,000
we heard a really loud crash in the kitchen.
815
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,160
And it was on the front end of the kitchen table.
816
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:04,360
There was a show along the wall that had a bunch of her family heirlooms from the idling.
817
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,200
And it went flying across the kitchen.
818
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,720
I say flying across the kitchen but instead of falling straight down it went all the way
819
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:17,400
to the kitchen of Ireland like it had been thrown off the wall and all that stuff had shattered.
820
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:25,760
A day passes and I get really really sick.
821
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:32,680
And I chalk it up to a fever dream but it felt like so much more.
822
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,480
I remember falling asleep on the couch.
823
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,400
I don't remember falling asleep but I remember rolling over and looking in the middle of the
824
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,800
floor and there was a coffin.
825
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:47,920
I was open and you could see a fetid core.
826
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:54,120
I mean just completely disgusting, oozy body decomposed.
827
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,600
I mean you know not a fresh corpse.
828
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,560
It was weeks old.
829
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,560
It was there.
830
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:05,440
I remember getting off the couch and wondering why.
831
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,280
My girlfriend and all the kids couldn't see it.
832
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:15,000
And keep in mind everything that's going on in real life is also having my dream like.
833
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,280
She was sitting there on her phone watching TV on the chair and that's what was happening.
834
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:26,920
Kids were doing their thing back and forth but it was so vivid and so real.
835
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,720
And then all of a sudden the corpse rose up out of the coffin and started to crawl down
836
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:33,720
my mouth.
837
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:40,800
I jumped up off the couch and busted through the door and started throwing up trying to
838
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,800
expel what still felt like something was trying to crawl down my throat.
839
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,800
Oh my God.
840
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,320
Yeah.
841
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:56,360
The oozy corpse trying to crawl down his throat.
842
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,360
Oh my God.
843
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,360
You're making Kalen puke congratulations.
844
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,360
Oh my God.
845
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,120
That is.
846
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,360
I'd forgotten that that one had a user's like a woman.
847
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,360
Get her the call.
848
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,360
I'm not going to throw up.
849
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,360
I'm not going.
850
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:23,160
I feel like I want to throw up because I can like physically feel how just I have to I
851
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,160
can't.
852
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,680
I'll let you go ahead.
853
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:32,560
I can I can feel that in a way that I just.
854
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,560
Yeah.
855
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,640
It's I don't like that.
856
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,640
I can either.
857
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:42,040
I can completely like visualize that.
858
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,360
I really hate it.
859
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,360
I really hate it.
860
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,360
I feel like I'm feeling it.
861
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,160
It's in your throat.
862
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,160
Yeah.
863
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,160
Yeah.
864
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,600
It feels like your throat's like closing up and you're like listening to a story like that.
865
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,160
Oh my God.
866
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:04,520
So I had forgotten obviously I did listen to those audios before playing them and I did
867
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:13,120
not remember really that there was like a coffin aspect to this story and and then like
868
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,080
Clint's story is like he's at his funeral.
869
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,080
Oh my God.
870
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,840
And then like and the shadow people.
871
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:26,720
I did not even make that connection and so obvious that's really embarrassing.
872
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:29,560
Ms. Cole would be it's not please.
873
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,360
Oh my gosh.
874
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,640
I'm like really good at making connections.
875
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:40,440
I you know a lot of times I am and then sometimes we're a little.
876
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,280
Hey, you're disturbed over there.
877
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:53,000
I yeah, anything that like gives me the heave-jeebies really just sets my brain off in a different
878
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000
direction.
879
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,840
Consider me heaved and jeezed.
880
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,160
I just like what was skimming Clint's story.
881
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:08,680
I got just to see like if there was anything else.
882
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,200
In there that would.
883
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,200
They were trying to grab him and take him through the portal.
884
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,280
Also I guess we didn't really answer your question.
885
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,640
Do you think it's?
886
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,520
No we didn't really do you think it's possible that shadow people only exist in our minds
887
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:32,720
or do you or do I get play time after I'm dead.
888
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:38,360
I don't know why like the I feel like they're two separate questions like I think shadow
889
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:46,080
people exist in your mind and are like possibly also in the world.
890
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,360
They can two things can be true.
891
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:53,640
Are we sure thing?
892
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,920
And also if it's in your mind it doesn't mean it's not real either.
893
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,920
That's true.
894
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:03,880
It's just as real unless you are obviously like if you have schizophrenia and you're dealing
895
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,800
with mental illness.
896
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,280
But those things are so very real to them.
897
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,200
Yeah I was just going to say that's very real to them.
898
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,160
You should take the advice of whatever they're saying to you.
899
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,960
Does it mean it's not like real to you though.
900
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,960
Anyway.
901
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:26,680
I do I feel like enough people experience that but that feels very real to me.
902
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:35,720
And if you want my opinion I think you get plenty of play time after you transition.
903
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:37,720
I don't like to say transition.
904
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:38,720
In transition.
905
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:40,200
In to the next world.
906
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,200
The next life.
907
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,680
I don't know.
908
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:48,520
I like to think that shadow people can like take you into the other life.
909
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,640
I don't know.
910
00:44:50,640 --> 00:45:00,960
Yeah I think for the most part a lot of a lot of what we think of as being sort of of
911
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:06,400
the afterlife and sort of of a paranormal realm.
912
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:15,480
I really think that it has almost as much power as we give it in a way.
913
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,960
Which is I mean it's unfortunate for me.
914
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:30,600
But I do things that you know I think that a lot of it's real and we're experiencing certain
915
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:31,920
things.
916
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:40,880
But I do think also at the same time I do think there's a lot of it that really do believe
917
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:46,040
that regardless of how awful it feels.
918
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:53,680
I don't think that they can cause us harm in the way that we understand.
919
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:54,960
Not physical harm.
920
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,360
Not in the way that our brains understand at least.
921
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,360
Yeah.
922
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,840
I just got real hippy-dippy.
923
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:11,440
But I do think though that there's a lot of things that they might be able to be present
924
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,920
or visible to you.
925
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:19,840
I do think there's probably a lot of things that even if they can touch you I don't think
926
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,080
that they can hurt you.
927
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,520
And maybe unless you want them to.
928
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:32,160
You know I feel like if you're making like a TV show and you want the drama like in your
929
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,360
like a single bite to fake in it.
930
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:41,480
Well I'm just saying like if you're that type of person who wants to go into like a scary
931
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:46,640
place and think that you and like want bad things to happen to you so that it's like
932
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:51,120
evident that there's things there you're going to get in.
933
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,880
I didn't come up with this concept.
934
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,680
I've heard it many places.
935
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,680
Yeah.
936
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,680
Like it's just it's about how you go into it.
937
00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:59,680
Yeah.
938
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:06,320
Yeah because I do think that there are places that we visited and I certainly went into it
939
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:12,440
feeling like oh shit I don't know if I should be here and knowing that I'm sensitive and
940
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:20,520
then it's actually been a more positive than negative experience even if there is a lot
941
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,840
of intense energy.
942
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,840
Yeah.
943
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,840
Because that's how we felt about man race.
944
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:33,320
I really did feel like there's a lot of intense energy that there is.
945
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:39,800
And I felt a little bit overwhelmed and I was definitely like I was ready to leave when
946
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,280
we left.
947
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,680
I wasn't.
948
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:43,680
I know.
949
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:51,160
You know I don't know maybe I'm a spiritual introvert.
950
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:58,120
But I felt very overwhelmed at the end of that experience because it was very intense.
951
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:06,120
But I didn't ever really feel like there was anything that gave me cause for concern in
952
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,600
the sense of I would come to harm.
953
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:09,600
Yeah.
954
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:16,720
And again, you know these are you know I'm basing this on my experience and I can't.
955
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:21,640
I certainly I know that it's not the same for everyone and that's not the same experience
956
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,800
that I've had in every place.
957
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:33,120
But I really do feel like in the vast majority of situations and circumstances, I do think
958
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:38,800
that I don't think those things can hurt us.
959
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:39,800
Not really.
960
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,640
I kind of agree.
961
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,800
Maybe I maybe I want to believe that.
962
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,680
Well, but you keep on wanting to believe that cause that will protect you.
963
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:48,680
I believe.
964
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:49,680
Manifestation.
965
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,160
Oh man.
966
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,800
So what do we think about this?
967
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,760
I mean, we don't have to go back to the dream.
968
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,920
Obviously that was crazy and intense.
969
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:06,440
But do you think who's being possessed or something like the I feel like something trying
970
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:13,240
to come out, someone trying to climb down your throat and get into your body is like
971
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:16,760
a sign of like possession, right?
972
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,560
I mean, it didn't get in because he threw it up.
973
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:28,600
Yeah, I feel like that to me reads us something that might have been an attempt.
974
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:29,600
Yeah.
975
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:37,720
But I think I don't know, I just keep going back to that it's like was somebody who's
976
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:46,160
sensitive and they have an awareness and a healthy fear of things that they don't understand.
977
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,840
I just feel like you're going to have a hell of a time inhabiting that person.
978
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:51,840
Yeah.
979
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,440
Maybe that's what I want to believe.
980
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,680
But yeah, I don't know.
981
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,640
I don't think so.
982
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,240
To me that doesn't read as somebody who has been possessed.
983
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:03,720
Oh, yeah, no, I don't think.
984
00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:04,720
I don't think.
985
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:05,720
Currently.
986
00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:07,720
It is possessed.
987
00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:08,720
I wouldn't think so.
988
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:10,200
I wouldn't think so.
989
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,160
It just seems like demons got mad.
990
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:18,200
They were being called out in tight, antagonized.
991
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,200
Integinized.
992
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:26,000
And they threw some china down and wanted to fuck with your esophagus.
993
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,400
And I don't know, maybe it was just like scary you into not doing that again or I don't
994
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,320
know, maybe it was a phone.
995
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,040
I wonder where they go after.
996
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,280
It was like nothing happened after that.
997
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,240
I thought he said anyway.
998
00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:40,240
They just got bored.
999
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:41,240
It's like the ADHD.
1000
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:42,240
Yeah.
1001
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:43,240
They were like, all right.
1002
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:44,240
I can't possess that one.
1003
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:47,240
I'll just go find another one.
1004
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:48,240
Yeah.
1005
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:49,240
Yeah.
1006
00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:53,920
All right, I wonder if it's like this rule and possession land where if you try to possess
1007
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,480
someone and fail, like you can't try again for seven years.
1008
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:04,520
Oh, and do you feel like seven years is like the do you think that feels like the
1009
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,520
right number?
1010
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,520
It's probably like 666.
1011
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:11,520
They can try again for 600 to six years.
1012
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,520
Do I say that again?
1013
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,520
I've not had one sip of alcohol.
1014
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:25,840
I really, I really, I cannot possess anyone for six hundred and six years.
1015
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,840
I don't know.
1016
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,640
Well, I hope send us more stories.
1017
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:34,080
If you're shadow people do anything else, apparently they're just hanging around and
1018
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,080
you see them every now and then?
1019
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,080
I don't know.
1020
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,080
Hey, yeah.
1021
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,080
It's kind of hoping they would go away.
1022
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:46,400
But I wanted to I wanted to think like they were protectors.
1023
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,640
Maybe they were a new theory.
1024
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,640
Oh.
1025
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:55,680
I wanted to believe like the shadow people are protectors and just like watching over you.
1026
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,040
But I was like, oh, but the bad, the really bad feeling.
1027
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:04,240
But then I was like, what if the bad feeling is there and then the shadow people show up
1028
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:08,480
because something else is going on and they actually are protecting you?
1029
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,400
I mean, that could be.
1030
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,520
And just the scary thing you can't see it somewhere else.
1031
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:14,520
Diamonds.
1032
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,240
You don't know what that looks like.
1033
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:17,240
Yeah.
1034
00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:18,240
Yeah.
1035
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:24,520
I mean, I feel like that seems like a plausible explanation as well.
1036
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:25,520
Yeah.
1037
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,320
I just wanted to explore a couple lanes here.
1038
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,840
So you would see what we think.
1039
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,960
If you guys think anything different, let us know.
1040
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:39,360
If you have more stories about shadow people and creepy like coffin dreams.
1041
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:40,360
My God.
1042
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,360
Oh.
1043
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:46,280
You can email them to us at pnwhonsonhomicide@gmail.com.
1044
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,920
You can send us voice messages if you would like.
1045
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,760
Can we get voice messages to our texts?
1046
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:53,760
Do you know?
1047
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,920
I'm not sure.
1048
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:56,920
Let's test it.
1049
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,680
Can you receive through those or is it just sending?
1050
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,680
I have no idea.
1051
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,680
I really have no idea.
1052
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,160
That's probably just sending.
1053
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,160
Anyway.
1054
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,160
Yeah.
1055
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,160
I don't know.
1056
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,160
If they wanted to send us a voice memo, I'm sure they could through the text line.
1057
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:19,320
I think the website now has like a component where they can use.
1058
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:25,960
And if you wanted to record a voice memo and just send it to us through like our Google
1059
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:31,160
form or send it as attachment to an email, you can do that.
1060
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:37,360
There's so many different ways where if you really want to be the one to sort of voice
1061
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:44,280
the story, at least even if it's just us, you have voice the story and have us still
1062
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,600
tell it, we would be honored.
1063
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,080
Yeah.
1064
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,960
Like if you don't want to type it out, send a voice message, but you don't want your voice
1065
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,400
on the pod, we can like retell it for you.
1066
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,400
Yeah.
1067
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:00,400
1000%. Totes.
1068
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,400
We'd love that.
1069
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,400
Yeah.
1070
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,640
Also, we'll send you stickers still if you give us your address and return.
1071
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:06,640
Yes.
1072
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:07,640
All right.
1073
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,440
Well, should we do a couple tarot reads for these?
1074
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,440
Yes.
1075
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,440
Stores.
1076
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:25,520
We're doing tarot for creepy people chronicle story.
1077
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:31,360
All the dang shadow people, crazy dreams.
1078
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,160
I thought these candles would go really good together.
1079
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:40,520
So I'm burning this boys and apple candle that Caitlin got me so long ago.
1080
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,520
So long ago.
1081
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,720
And I just have the heart to burn it yet, but we're burning it today.
1082
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:52,520
And then I have the haunted circus candle from mythic wick.
1083
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:53,520
Yeah.
1084
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,520
Okay.
1085
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:55,520
I say it right.
1086
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:56,720
Yeah, you do.
1087
00:54:56,720 --> 00:55:02,840
And that's like caramel apple, circus, like popcorn and smoke and fire or something.
1088
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,840
It's like ghostly like smoking fire.
1089
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,840
It smells so good.
1090
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:15,880
Oh, drawing for Clint.
1091
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,960
Four of cups.
1092
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,880
Four of cups has a cute ghost on it because it's from my cute ghost deck.
1093
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,880
Cute.
1094
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:25,880
So cute.
1095
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,080
It has four cups on it.
1096
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,080
Surprise, surprise.
1097
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,080
Shut.
1098
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,080
Okay.
1099
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,560
Here we go.
1100
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,320
So we drew that upright.
1101
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,320
Correct.
1102
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,320
Okay.
1103
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:49,280
So the four of cups are keywords are withdrawal, rest, boredom, lack of inspiration, rest,
1104
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,800
sleepy.
1105
00:55:53,800 --> 00:56:00,840
The four of cups in the writer, wait Smith and other decks depicts a loonsome person sitting
1106
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,320
beneath a tree.
1107
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:10,120
Some show a disembodied hand passing him or her a cup.
1108
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:18,120
The idea, the idea is that you've gone off on your own and art receiving what others
1109
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,320
hold out to you at this time.
1110
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:27,760
You may be withdrawing from your usual routine, work, friends, etc.
1111
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,320
In order to get in touch with yourself.
1112
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,800
Well, you know, self love is important.
1113
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:33,800
It's not a bad thing.
1114
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,440
Boundary setting.
1115
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:41,680
The upright four of cups symbolizes boredom and stagnation.
1116
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:47,880
You're not satisfied with your life at this time, but lack the incentive to make changes.
1117
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:53,960
You've detached emotionally from people and situations.
1118
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:58,960
Sometimes this card indicates you've sacrificed happiness for security.
1119
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:05,960
Which I feel is true of anyone living in late stage capital.
1120
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:14,520
Well, also just that statement, like sacrificing happiness for security, it's like he was laughing
1121
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,200
while trying to save his family.
1122
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:22,080
I don't know why that kind of just like the juxtaposition of that is very interesting
1123
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,080
to me.
1124
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,080
Yeah, thanks for the big word.
1125
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,080
Yeah.
1126
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,080
Oh, God.
1127
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,840
I needed it.
1128
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:34,360
If you're reading about money, this card can mean you're too attached to money and security.
1129
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,760
Perhaps at the expense of love and joy.
1130
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:45,000
Which I feel like you were just discussing off my cow.
1131
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:50,280
You might be experiencing one at the expense of another.
1132
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,280
Yeah.
1133
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:57,120
Perhaps you've prioritized money in the past and now seek meaning in other things.
1134
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,520
He just got a tarot deck.
1135
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,480
Oh, yeah.
1136
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:08,480
And I feel like it just is sort of symbolic of him seeking something and maybe trying to
1137
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,240
find some meaning.
1138
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:18,960
And I think honestly, if you do terror readings for yourself and also for others, I've frequently
1139
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:26,320
done them for family and friends.
1140
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:32,480
You'll find kind of little bits of wisdom that sort of, wow, I really needed to hear that.
1141
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:37,360
And it might not influence your life in some sort of crazy way, but it's just what you
1142
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,040
needed to hear today.
1143
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,040
Yeah.
1144
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,520
Yeah.
1145
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:50,240
If the reading is about your job, you probably feel stuck and bored with your job.
1146
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,560
Which like, okay, same as who isn't.
1147
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:54,560
Less is this one.
1148
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:55,560
Yeah.
1149
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:56,560
That's pretty cool.
1150
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,520
I know, right?
1151
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:06,040
You may long for more creativity and enjoyment, but have opted for security instead.
1152
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,040
Yeah.
1153
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,880
I mean, you have to have it.
1154
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:10,880
Something you need.
1155
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:11,880
It's true.
1156
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:18,560
And with a family in particular, that's, you know, the security of you, of not just yourself,
1157
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,040
but your family, that really has to be paramount.
1158
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,040
Yeah.
1159
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:32,680
In a reading about love, the force shows you withdrawing affection and energy from a relationship.
1160
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,880
Perhaps routine has sacked your enthusiasm.
1161
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:42,880
This card also symbolizes a relationship based on security rather than passion.
1162
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:47,760
I feel like every relationship goes through phases.
1163
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,360
And I don't know if that's a phase that you're in right now.
1164
00:59:51,360 --> 01:00:02,360
But it can be very easy to move a relationship from one phase to the next or to your specifically
1165
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,000
desired phase.
1166
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:14,000
If you know, you kind of put in that time and that energy and the work to sort of make it
1167
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:19,360
something that feels new and different, even if you've been in it for a long time.
1168
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,360
Yeah.
1169
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:21,360
You're so wise.
1170
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:22,360
You're not even married yet.
1171
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:27,360
Not yet, but I mean, I have a way to do it.
1172
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:37,680
I mean, at the ripe old age of 25, getting married for the very first time.
1173
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:45,200
Now I mean, I think, you know, it's always easier to think about these things in relation
1174
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:53,480
to someone else and feel like you can weigh in a way that's meaningful and you can give
1175
01:00:53,480 --> 01:01:01,480
them insight in a way that, I mean, even someone that's close to you, probably maybe even more
1176
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:08,440
sell someone that's close to you because not that, you know, we don't adore you, but just
1177
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:14,480
that, you know, we're not as close to on the day to day to the situation.
1178
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:22,680
We can just say, you know, maybe, you know, maybe whether it's a romantic relationship,
1179
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,440
a platonic one, a work relationship.
1180
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,680
What if it's like your shadow person relationship?
1181
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,960
Maybe don't work on that one.
1182
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:37,160
If it feels monotonous and you don't want it to be, you know, there are avenues that you
1183
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,160
can explore to remedy that.
1184
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,160
Yeah.
1185
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,760
There's always something that can be done about everything.
1186
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:48,160
I mean, obviously not like with extremes, like you can't cure cancer.
1187
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,920
Like, you know what I mean, but like just normal stuff, like there's always something that
1188
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:53,920
can be done.
1189
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:54,920
Right.
1190
01:01:54,920 --> 01:02:03,920
When it comes to like relationship problems, when it comes to, you know, largely social issues
1191
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:12,360
and, you know, your individual dynamics, those are things that they can be changed.
1192
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,360
We can work on that.
1193
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,360
Yeah.
1194
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:20,360
Well, should we draw for the next story?
1195
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,600
Actually, what I was going to say, we don't even know if this card relates to you, Clint,
1196
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,920
but if it does let us know.
1197
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,520
We don't know what's going on over there.
1198
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,200
We're just reading from the book.
1199
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,200
So.
1200
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,200
Yeah.
1201
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,200
Thank you for your story.
1202
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,200
We love that.
1203
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:36,200
So much.
1204
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,200
We love hearing from Clint.
1205
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,200
It's always entertaining.
1206
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,200
We always cry.
1207
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,680
So that's like our, that's our thing now.
1208
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,200
So you can never not make us cry when you send us the story.
1209
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,200
Apparently.
1210
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,480
That is his thing of ours.
1211
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:54,640
I cannot believe he's not going to make us cry and then proceeded to tell us the saddest
1212
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:55,640
dream.
1213
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:56,640
It's just.
1214
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:57,640
Okay.
1215
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:05,400
Well, let's draw a story for, let's draw a card for next story.
1216
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,400
Okay.
1217
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:12,200
This is definitely when I went and I picked one with Clint because I felt like I knew,
1218
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,440
but you got to, you got to do this one.
1219
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:17,760
I was in that region.
1220
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:18,760
It's been eyeballing me.
1221
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,760
Oh, the moon.
1222
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:20,760
Interesting.
1223
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,160
I was wearing a shirt that had the moon on it earlier today.
1224
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,680
That's so funny.
1225
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:26,680
Okay.
1226
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,920
Oh, this is all about like a nighttime dream.
1227
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,080
This is all about like secrets and shadows.
1228
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,880
Oh, shadow people.
1229
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:36,880
Secrets.
1230
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,840
What are your secrets, Nick?
1231
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,160
What are your psychro.
1232
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,160
Oh boy.
1233
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:42,160
This is so perfect.
1234
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:43,160
Oh my gosh.
1235
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,160
Moon is like totally like shadow.
1236
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:45,160
Like it's crazy.
1237
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,160
This is really interesting.
1238
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,160
Okay.
1239
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,160
Okay.
1240
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,160
He words are intuition.
1241
01:03:49,160 --> 01:04:02,920
The unconscious.
1242
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,440
Oh, hello.
1243
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,440
Mystery illusion and secrets.
1244
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,440
I said secrets.
1245
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,640
What are your secrets?
1246
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,560
Nicholas, we're coming for you on Tennessee.
1247
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,320
I don't know if you still live there, not.
1248
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:18,840
I assume wherever you are.
1249
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,280
Once you still have an accent, you probably still live in Tennessee, right?
1250
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,280
That's how that works.
1251
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:24,280
I don't think so.
1252
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:29,080
I think you don't move and pick up the accent over you go, necessarily.
1253
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,280
I'm probably so offensive to this house.
1254
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,160
I deeply apologize.
1255
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:35,160
They love it.
1256
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:36,680
I love your accent.
1257
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:37,680
Bless your heart.
1258
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,560
Bless your heart.
1259
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,600
Bless your heart.
1260
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:51,880
The moon is a magical mysterious part that symbolizes the unconscious, the realm of dreams,
1261
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,520
imagination and psychic impressions.
1262
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,720
Crazy.
1263
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:04,480
Some deck show the moon as full, others in its crescent phase.
1264
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,240
Where some of it shadowed.
1265
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:15,760
On the right-of-way smith's deck, two canines, a dog and a wolf, howl at the moon.
1266
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:22,800
At the bottom of the card is a pool or pond of water from which crawls a crab.
1267
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,400
Oh, oh, interesting.
1268
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,400
Oh.
1269
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:32,400
Symbol of the astrological sign cancer ruled by the moon.
1270
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,400
That's me, you guys.
1271
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,200
I have a crab on my foot.
1272
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,920
I probably don't want to show my foot, let's see.
1273
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:42,240
It's like a crab craw foot.
1274
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,080
You can't.
1275
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,160
You literally can't get it in frame.
1276
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,160
Can you see it?
1277
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,160
Kind of.
1278
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,160
Well, take a picture of it.
1279
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:59,640
I thought it was funnier to try to look at what's like you with your shoes.
1280
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:05,400
At the bottom of the card is a pool or pond of water from which crawls a crab.
1281
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:11,080
Symbol of the astrological sign cancer ruled by the moon.
1282
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,400
Crawfish or lobster.
1283
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:14,400
Crawfish?
1284
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:15,400
Crawlfish.
1285
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,760
I like to think of it as being lobster.
1286
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:18,760
Because that's how it looks.
1287
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,960
Yeah, lobster is delicious.
1288
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:27,920
The water suggests the moon's link with the emotions in the unconscious realm.
1289
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:28,920
Totally.
1290
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,480
Oh, I just thought like crawfish boil like in the south.
1291
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,480
I think yeah.
1292
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:36,480
That's the video.
1293
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,480
I was like, yeah, I've been there for days.
1294
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,240
You have to say it, Caitlin.
1295
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:41,240
Come on.
1296
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:42,320
Well, I mean, I don't.
1297
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:46,480
If it relate with the card didn't know that this story was from the south.
1298
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,480
But didn't it?
1299
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:48,480
Didn't it?
1300
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:49,720
It didn't know.
1301
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:56,480
The moon urges you to pay more attention to your inner self, your lunar self.
1302
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:01,200
Oh, didn't that last card kind of say that too?
1303
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,200
I think a little bit.
1304
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,960
It's about self reflection.
1305
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:12,080
I think in both of these instances, the light of the sun enables us to see the world around
1306
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:13,080
us.
1307
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:22,520
But the moon allows us to eliminate, illuminate, excuse me, illuminate what springs naturally
1308
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,920
from inside us.
1309
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:30,160
So very cancer type stuff going on here.
1310
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:35,160
I immediately cannot connect because it's very gushy.
1311
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,160
Do you know it's very emotional?
1312
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:38,160
Yeah.
1313
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,160
Well, do you know what that also reminds me of?
1314
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:41,160
What?
1315
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:42,160
Vomit.
1316
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,160
Oh.
1317
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,160
What did it say?
1318
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,160
Read that again.
1319
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:46,160
It's delightful.
1320
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:50,240
The light of the sun enables us to see the world around us.
1321
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:56,160
But the moon allows us to illuminate what springs naturally from inside us.
1322
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,160
Wow.
1323
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:58,160
Springs.
1324
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,160
Springs naturally from inside us.
1325
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,160
As a projectile from within.
1326
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:04,160
That's what it sounded like.
1327
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:05,160
He was vomiting.
1328
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:06,160
It is.
1329
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,160
Okay.
1330
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:13,480
We've got an extra excerpt before our whole interpretation.
1331
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:21,480
Evidence of moon worship is found in such widely buried cultures as those of the in a
1332
01:08:21,480 --> 01:08:31,200
saucy Indians of New Mexico, the Greeks, Romans, Chinese, pre-Columbian, Peruvians,
1333
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:35,680
Burmese, Phoenicians, and Egyptians.
1334
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,120
So basically every continent.
1335
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:39,120
Yeah.
1336
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:40,120
Not shocking.
1337
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,320
No.
1338
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:50,120
In the craft, when we refer to the great god by the Hebrew names, L or Elohim, we borrow
1339
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:58,840
the new terms that entered Hebrew from Arabic, where the name "Ela" derives from a word
1340
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,840
that means moon.
1341
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:01,840
Hmm.
1342
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:02,840
I had no idea.
1343
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:03,840
Me neither.
1344
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:04,840
Wow.
1345
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:05,840
Okay.
1346
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,600
Now we're going to get to your actual interpretation.
1347
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,200
This is really interesting.
1348
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:15,680
The moon upright shows you tuning into your lunar energies.
1349
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:20,160
You're becoming more aware of your feelings and inner life.
1350
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:24,880
The moon also suggests psychic ability.
1351
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:31,320
You can sense other people's vibrations because you're connected to the information network
1352
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:36,160
of the invisible world or an invisible string.
1353
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:37,160
What?
1354
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:42,200
That's crazy.
1355
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:43,200
We talked about that.
1356
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,200
Did we talk about that in this episode?
1357
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,200
It was not like a pat.
1358
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,200
We've recorded three episodes today.
1359
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:49,200
Yeah.
1360
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,200
We're actually bringing people.
1361
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:53,200
Yeah.
1362
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:54,200
Oh, that's a...
1363
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:55,200
Nick, are you psychic?
1364
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:56,200
Let us know.
1365
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,200
Can you feel our vibrations?
1366
01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,200
Okay.
1367
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,200
Listen to this.
1368
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:08,000
Pay attention to your dreams, feelings, instincts, and intuition.
1369
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:14,560
For artistic people, the moon's appearance may indicate a time of increased imagination
1370
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,160
and creativity.
1371
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,160
I hear crows.
1372
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,160
That's a good sign.
1373
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:26,560
Interrating about money, this card recommends listening to your intuition as well as your intellect
1374
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,040
in connection with a money matter.
1375
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,640
I mean, that's pretty standard advice.
1376
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:32,640
I feel like...
1377
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:33,640
I feel like...
1378
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:34,640
Solid.
1379
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:41,160
However, don't make a decision based on emotion alone.
1380
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:42,320
Which is...
1381
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,640
I feel like that goes for money and pretty much everything else.
1382
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:47,640
Yeah.
1383
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:57,000
The moon can also point to ups and downs, changing phases in a financial situation.
1384
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:04,040
If the reading is about your job, the moon can mean a situation has a hidden or dark side.
1385
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:05,040
Hmm.
1386
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:11,800
This isn't necessarily bad, but you may not be aware of all of the dynamics at work.
1387
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:12,800
Well, shoot.
1388
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,880
Nick, watch out.
1389
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:20,480
Illusions or secrets may cause confusion.
1390
01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:26,360
If you begin something during the new moon, you may see things more clearly or a project
1391
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:31,280
may reach culmination during the full moon.
1392
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:32,280
Interesting.
1393
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,920
Look up when the next new moon is, because I know boys probably don't usually care about
1394
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,800
when the new moon is.
1395
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,400
I mean, I'm obviously making a gender stereotype there.
1396
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,000
You guys know what I mean.
1397
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,000
Yeah.
1398
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,760
Oh, it's soon.
1399
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,240
Oh, it's soon.
1400
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:49,240
Oh, it's...
1401
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:50,240
Oh, it's just...
1402
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:51,240
It's just happened.
1403
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:52,240
Yeah, it happened two days ago.
1404
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:53,240
So you missed your shot.
1405
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:57,240
You'll have to wait until next new moon, which is...
1406
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:58,240
Oh, yeah.
1407
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,240
Oh, yeah.
1408
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:00,240
Oh, yeah.
1409
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,240
Oh, yeah.
1410
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,520
Next new moon, which is on July 5th.
1411
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:05,520
Oh, interesting.
1412
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:06,520
Okay.
1413
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,520
When is the full moon?
1414
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,320
Oh, sorry.
1415
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,400
Two weeks' fish from now, let's see.
1416
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,800
Full moon is June 21st.
1417
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,280
Oh, wow.
1418
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,520
Second day of summer, I think.
1419
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,880
And then the July is July 21st.
1420
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:23,880
Okay.
1421
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:24,880
Cool.
1422
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,040
Good to know.
1423
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,840
Just making plans.
1424
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:33,840
I mean, now those details, ironing out.
1425
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:34,840
I don't know.
1426
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,840
I might have said that weird.
1427
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:37,840
That's okay.
1428
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:38,840
Get over it.
1429
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,840
You say most things when I'm just kidding, you don't.
1430
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:41,840
I can't.
1431
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:42,840
No.
1432
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:49,360
In a reading about love, this card symbolizes a highly emotional relationship that may be tinged
1433
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,400
with illusions.
1434
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:58,640
Sometimes it represents a sensitive partner who nurtures you, especially creatively.
1435
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:03,640
Or that you're working on issues of mothering and nurturing.
1436
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,640
Interesting.
1437
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,960
All right.
1438
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:14,480
Our extra excerpt is extra long.
1439
01:13:14,480 --> 01:13:21,560
When looking for adventure in a dark and deserted landscape, we should ask only for the
1440
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,520
light of the moon.
1441
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:32,480
Men or imaginations can create more exotic explanations for the wrestling in the undergrowth
1442
01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:41,360
or the dark, bottomless voids, which open up ahead of us.
1443
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:46,760
We comfort ourselves too much with light.
1444
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:53,720
Sometimes we must wander in the dark so that our other senses can find their full expression
1445
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:59,320
and we hear more clearly the message of the night.
1446
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:06,680
The wilderness and the strange creatures that inhabit the unseen spaces.
1447
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:07,680
Whoa.
1448
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,760
That's pretty cool.
1449
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,800
Kind of creepy though.
1450
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,520
The creatures that came out of the dark in these stories are.
1451
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:19,520
Yeah.
1452
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,040
That's a lot.
1453
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,040
But I don't know.
1454
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:26,400
Maybe that goes to like what I was saying is like you can't see the bad thing and the shadow
1455
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,200
people that you can see are the ones protecting you.
1456
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:31,360
Maybe.
1457
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,840
And you can't have shadow without light.
1458
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:38,000
Oh, I don't know.
1459
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,480
My body is.
1460
01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:42,480
Wow.
1461
01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:49,480
Well, both of you guys let us know if this is relating to your life or your, I mean,
1462
01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:53,840
obviously parts of them were relating to the story, but I mean, you don't have to tell
1463
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:54,840
us your life.
1464
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:55,840
But tell us if the card relates.
1465
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:56,840
We like to know.
1466
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:57,840
I like to tell us your life.
1467
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,840
Like, feel free to tell us.
1468
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:01,320
Yeah, you can tell us your life.
1469
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:02,840
What's going on at work?
1470
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:06,520
What's going on with this relationship that's very emotional and passionate.
1471
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,520
I love it.
1472
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:12,520
Well, that was cool.
1473
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:17,520
I really like getting like a voice message story from people.
1474
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:18,520
Yeah.
1475
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:19,520
It's fun.
1476
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,840
It gives people a break from hearing us read.
1477
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:27,280
We're going to have to take a look before this one comes out and see if we can give their
1478
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,760
guidelines on how to do the audio.
1479
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:30,760
See that.
1480
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:37,240
I mean, there's so many ways that I know people that are really motivated to do it.
1481
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,720
They will just do that thing.
1482
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,840
They will do the thing.
1483
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:47,160
But I think we might have some resources.
1484
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,000
Yeah, I need like an easy way to do something.
1485
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:51,240
Show me where to click the button.
1486
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:52,240
I'll do it.
1487
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:56,080
But if I actually take extra steps, sometimes it depends.
1488
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:57,080
We're all busy.
1489
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:58,080
Yeah.
1490
01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:59,080
Yeah.
1491
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:00,080
And I totally get that.
1492
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:04,880
So I'm like, I can appreciate when there's like a shorthand for things.
1493
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:05,880
Yeah.
1494
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,040
So yeah, we'll have to take a look at that and see if we can figure out some ways to like
1495
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,520
make that a little bit easier for people.
1496
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:23,680
And maybe even for some people that don't feel like they're the most savvy in that arena.
1497
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,520
My self included.
1498
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,320
Yeah.
1499
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,320
That was fun.
1500
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:30,320
Yeah.
1501
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:31,320
Yeah.
1502
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,520
Hearing somebody else actually tell the story.
1503
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:40,400
I try to put myself in that person's shoes when we're reading somebody else's story.
1504
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:46,400
But to hear their voice telling it is clearly creates more of an emotional response from
1505
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:47,400
you.
1506
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:48,400
Yeah.
1507
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:49,400
Yeah.
1508
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:50,400
Physical even.
1509
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:51,400
It is.
1510
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:52,400
It's hard to argue with that.
1511
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:53,400
Yeah.
1512
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:54,400
Yeah.
1513
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:55,400
All right.
1514
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:56,400
Well, should we go?
1515
01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:00,400
It's pretty late at night here.
1516
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:06,400
I mean, you can't tell because you have no idea what time of day it is now anymore.
1517
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:14,840
You've blocked out the light, which don't do that in general, but like unless you need a
1518
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:21,400
room with controlled light and sound, that's just how we're living.
1519
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,400
That's how the curtain closes.
1520
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:24,400
Yeah.
1521
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:29,200
And could this.
1522
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:30,400
Should we do our thing?
1523
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,400
Let's do our thing.
1524
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:33,400
Okay.
1525
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,400
Have a creepy ass day.
1526
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,400
We'll see you next Tuesday.
1527
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,400
But like feel free to write us in between now.
1528
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:42,400
Yeah.
1529
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:50,640
Let us know what you're up to, what you're doing, how your day is going, what you had for lunch.
1530
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:58,360
If it was really interesting or spooky, if you got like a paranormal message from your
1531
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,400
tuna, you know, in the sandwich.
1532
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,400
I want a tuna paranormal message.
1533
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,400
Tuna paranormal on a five.
1534
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:11,400
A listen, you asked them, what did they have for lunch?
1535
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:18,600
Well, everyone stay away from, I don't want to see stay away from shadow people because what
1536
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,000
if they're not evil?
1537
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,000
Listen, just stay safe.
1538
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,000
Yeah.
1539
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:24,000
How about please stay safe.
1540
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,000
Do it feels right.
1541
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:30,800
If you're not safe and something happens, please let us know immediately.
1542
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,800
Especially from the afterlife.
1543
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,800
Well, don't die.
1544
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:35,800
Please.
1545
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:41,800
Listen, if they already died, like the least you could do is contact us.
1546
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:48,040
Oh, and we haven't said it in a long time, but this is also proof that these stories don't
1547
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:49,760
need to be from the Pacific Northwest.
1548
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,800
They could be from Tennessee or Canada.
1549
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,800
Well, I don't know what part of Canadian Clint is in.
1550
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:02,800
Oh, I mean also, visit Canada.
1551
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,800
Our friend from Canada.
1552
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:05,800
Yeah.
1553
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,380
(laughing)