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Creepy People Chronicles: Shadow People Nightmares

Creepy People Chronicles: Shadow People Nightmares

What if the supernatural is closer to reality than we think? Brace yourself for creepy tales from our listeners, in our latest episode of PNW Haunts & Homicides! We start things off lighhearted with a magical memorial service, where a visit from a...

What if the supernatural is closer to reality than we think? Brace yourself for creepy tales from our listeners, in our latest episode of PNW Haunts & Homicides! We start things off lighhearted with a magical memorial service, where a visit from a giant bird brings a message from the other side. We then things start to get dark as we dive into an emotional listener story from Clint in Canada, who shares a vivid dream involving shadow people and a terrifying confrontation. Clint's story, blurs the lines between dreams and reality, leaving us with a mix of laughter and tears.

Next, we receive a voice message from a listener with a couple very disturbing encounters with shadow people and a Ouija board induced possession nightmare. As we explore the metaphysical world of the afterlife and the entities that reside beyond this universe, we consider the power of mindset and intentions when engaging with the supernatural. Tune in for a captivating blend of eerie stories, heartfelt reflections, and a generous dose of humor!

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I'm telling you because when I got past the closet, there was a shadow person attacking

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my wife.

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No, get out.

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You're not invited.

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This is extra creepy and everyone will see why later.

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I had no idea.

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I've never read this.

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I had no idea this was in here.

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Client!

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Um, I lost my spot.

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Oh my god.

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My brain hurts.

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I can't help but you really know.

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I'm so sorry.

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I can't.

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Hi, Caitlyn.

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Hi, Cassie.

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Hi, creepy people.

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Hello.

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This is... my brain broke.

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Do we say hello?

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Hello.

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Did we do that?

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Did we say hi, creepy people?

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Hello.

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This is my brain broke.

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Do we say hello?

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Hello.

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Do we say hello?

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Hello.

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Did we do that?

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Did we say hi, creepy people?

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Yeah, we did.

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My brain literally just broke.

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Yeah, it just broke.

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It, for sure, broke.

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I fixed it.

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She's sober.

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It's fine.

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I'm back.

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And if you're here and you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides,

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where we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and all things spooky

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and the Pacific Northwest and sometimes other places.

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Also there.

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Yeah.

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And there and then sometimes there.

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You get the idea.

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Anyways, we also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode because we like it.

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We like it.

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And we feel like it gives us insight into our topic and we're going to keep doing it.

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Yeah, it really does.

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And also, Caitlyn has a sign behind her that says tarot and like we don't want to be liars.

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Yeah.

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Kind of hacked you.

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You have a sign behind you that says spooky.

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I don't want to be a liar about that.

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So it's always spooky.

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It's very spooky.

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Well, we actually have a Patreon if you didn't know.

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And we have people that join and there's different tiers and there's free trials.

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Oh, the free trials.

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And sometimes people join the free trial and then they actually sign up.

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And they're like, I don't want to cancel this.

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And they actually want to like give us, you know, a little change, a little money to help

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us along in our little passion project business.

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I kind of say passion project actually.

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It's a business.

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I mean, two things can be true.

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I feel like I said that 1800 times today.

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You know, I feel like me and the rest of the world were all just learning this.

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You know, we're getting used to this fact.

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Yeah, I feel like it takes a minute to wrap your head around it.

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Well, you know what else is true?

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What?

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We have a new Patreon at the $10 tier.

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That is the Never Bundy tier.

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It is.

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Thankfully people agree with us.

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Never Bundy.

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Chris, not Caitlyn's Chris.

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We have multiple Chris's.

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We do have multiple Chris's in the creepy world.

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It's not.

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It's almost like it's like a really good name.

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Yeah, like almost I would say one of the best names.

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It's up there.

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It starts with a C. His voice.

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That's right.

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I do feel like there's that.

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That's right.

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If your name starts with a C, you got, you got good things going for you.

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You're probably pretty cool.

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Pretty confident.

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Pretty courteous.

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Courteous.

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Courageous.

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Courageous.

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Classy.

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Christmas-y?.

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Like that literally has Chris in it.

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So there you go.

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There you go.

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Christmas-y Chris.

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Christmas-y Chris.

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Sorry if you don't celebrate Christmas.

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I apologize from the bottom of my heart.

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Like the depth is so shallow.

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All of a sudden it's like someone has canceled their Patreon membership.

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It's in their live streaming.

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He just felt it.

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He's like, oh, you made a Christmas joke.

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It's the war on Christmas.

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You know, that's the number one threat to this country. (Southern accent)

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Hilarious.

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You made that accent hilarious.

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It fits more than you ever know into this episode.

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Oh.

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I don't know how to feel about that.

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Because this is a creepy people Chronicles episode.

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So we read stories from our listeners and occasionally listen to stories from our listeners.

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And yeah, we'll get there.

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Okay.

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Well, that's enough of that.

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Let's start.

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All right.

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Um, I actually want to start with a little story.

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It was something cute that happened at my great grandma Ruby's memorial service.

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Her name was Ruby.

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Yes, her name was Ruby.

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Cassie, I don't think you told me that.

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And isn't it the sweetest?

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What?

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Are you gonna cry?

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I mean, you cry already.

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I'm so sorry.

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That was, that was the name of my first pet.

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Oh, Ruby.

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And I cried.

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I cried.

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I cried.

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I cried when my goldfish.

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She was goldfish!

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I'm so sorry.

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But you know, I had a very emotional connection with the bulls-well.

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Maybe this is her coming back to say "blub, blub."

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"blub, blub."

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I know where she's buried.

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No.

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I can go find her.

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Oh, she's fine.

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There anymore.

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Uh, sorry.

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Sorry, child, Caitlyn.

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Well, I mean, I don't expect like the entire goldfish to be the big fish.

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You know what we're getting?

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Just the teeny tiny bulls.

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So yes, my great grandma's name was Ruby.

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And that's my birthstone too.

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So like I always felt like, oh, we're cool.

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Because we have this little Ruby connection.

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Yeah.

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So anyway, she did pass recently and she was 96 or 97, I think.

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She'll look at that.

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Fuck, I thought I wrote it down.

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Just say in our 90s.

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I mean, if you're in your 90s, you don't care about how old you are in the same way that

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like a six year old is like, I'm six and a quarter.

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It's actually kind of funny because like on one of her birthdays, she swore to everyone

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that she was like a year older.

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Oh, really?

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They were like, but you were born this year and it's this year in the math.

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And she's like, I don't know how it works out, but this is how old I am.

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She was so stubborn and spicy.

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So she was born in 27.

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So she was 97.

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After make a correction, I was using the year 2024 and not the year 2023 when I did my math.

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She was 96 because she had passed in 2023.

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But funny because I did say that she was arguing that she was a year older than she actually

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was.

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So you know what?

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I just, I got you, great grandma Ruby.

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I'm on your side.

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I know how old you are.

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And I did forget to mention that she was born on St. Patrick's Day and at her memorial service,

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we got little Shamrock pins in honor of her because she just, she loved like St. Patrick's

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Day, everything Irish because she was born on that day.

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And so I did put the little pin on her alter today.

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So if you see the little little Shamrock pin that is in honor of my great grandma Ruby.

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So yes.

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It's crazy.

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So yes, it's crazy that I had like a great grandma my whole life.

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I always thought it.

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Everyone was like great grandma.

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Yeah.

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So it's pretty cool.

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It's cool.

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She had a lot of stories.

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Oh my gosh.

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I can imagine.

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I can imagine.

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She was very spicy.

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She was very well known in her nursing home.

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I'll just put it that way.

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So at her memorial, they were up there talking and we were at a very beautiful summer.

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I can't remember the name off the top of my head.

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So the service was in like a brick enclosure, but we were like outside and then behind the

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speaker, there was a window like didn't help me get out of glass.

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No, I had to.

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I think I had glass.

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There was like a window.

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So you could see trees and nature and shit behind.

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Oh, that's cool.

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So I was staring out at the trees and then I saw this giant ass fucking bird.

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Like, whoo, whoo, like land on a branch and it like did this like all dramatic thing.

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And I'm like, look, does it?

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I don't know if anyone else saw it.

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But I kind of a bird.

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First I was like, is that an owl?

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Because it was kind of far away.

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Yeah.

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I wasn't really sure.

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I was like, is that a hole?

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And then it like took off again.

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So it's giant wings and underneath have like white underneath.

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So it's like, I don't know if it was a hawk.

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It could have been a hawk.

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Those are super common.

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Yeah.

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Around.

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I didn't like get a good look at the shape of it.

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The way it had landed was like backwards.

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So I don't really get the get a good look at the shape.

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Yeah, like a look at it from like, kind of back.

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I think it was a hawk just from seeing so many.

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And I know I think they have like white under their wings.

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I think I went and looked it up.

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Yeah.

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Big ass bird either way.

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I don't think it was an eagle.

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No, I would have known by the head if it was a eagle.

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There are two.

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Yeah.

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And they're really big.

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Those are also.

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It was a really big bird.

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Yeah.

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No hawks are.

253
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I was going to say, I didn't disagree with you.

254
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I'm not super familiar with a ton of different birds.

255
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But yeah, the way you're describing it, that sounds like a hawk to me and to look at

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like different images of different breeds, I guess, of hawks.

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Like I would say, yeah, that's a fair guess.

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They're more common to see than an owl too.

259
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And it would be probably weird for an owl to be flying around it like noon.

260
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Yeah.

261
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I agree.

262
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Yeah.

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But it was really cool.

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And so I was just kept looking out there like, did I really see that?

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Like it's in the middle of this memorial.

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It was like this giant-ass bird like doing shenanigans in the tree.

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And I don't know, it was interesting.

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And then I remembered I had just heard on a podcast earlier that week that it was like

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a psychic podcast.

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Yeah.

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And she was saying how she'd always thought that like hawks were messages from the other

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side.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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So I thought that thought it was pretty cool.

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And I think I wanted my great grandma send a little hawk down to say hi to everyone.

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That's interesting because, okay, I'm checking something really quick.

278
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Okay.

279
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So it's not just hawks.

280
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Oh, there's, I mean like every animal is like-

281
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No.

282
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Specifically, it said that birds are messengers from the spirit world.

283
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Yeah.

284
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And may even be the physical manifestation of angels.

285
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I don't know if you look that up at all, but-

286
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I didn't really look into it.

287
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I just know that like so many things are like messages from the other side.

288
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This really makes me want to look up our- our bird.

289
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Oh.

290
00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,160
Yeah.

291
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So I'll have to look at that later.

292
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But it says specifically, this is interesting hawk.

293
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So they have like different meanings.

294
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Hawks, their supposed meaning is for- it says for vision and acuity.

295
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Mm.

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Which makes me think that like that is a really good way.

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Sending a hawk is like a really good way of someone who has passed on.

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For them to say, I've got my eye on you.

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I'm still watching over you.

300
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Well, I mean, obviously that was my next sentence.

301
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Shut up.

302
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Well, of course.

303
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No way.

304
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But yeah.

305
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Oh, it was like well hawks are like, you know, known for like being able to like see from above

306
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and like, maybe it's just that they're watching out from above, you know?

307
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And I was like, let me Google something and just like completely separate from this situation.

308
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Let me just find this like sort of metaphysical meaning and like let me be the one to say it.

309
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Because it's all about me.

310
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No, it's perfect.

311
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It's like, I just like, I don't know why I didn't look it up probably because I-

312
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That's so crazy though.

313
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I just like had my own meaning and so I didn't really look it up.

314
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But if it means that for you sort of intuitively.

315
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Yeah, it's affirming.

316
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Yeah.

317
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Anyway, I thought it was really cute.

318
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We were like, we went to see her pretty much every summer growing up.

319
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But then like obviously once I got into adult, we didn't visit very often until recently,

320
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like right before she passed.

321
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I think I talked about my visit.

322
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We did have like a weird spooky thing happen while we were there.

323
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And Grace had like such a great trip.

324
00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:53,320
Yeah.

325
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What I remember.

326
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It was really good.

327
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It was fun having like girl time with all with the fam.

328
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Yeah.

329
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Yeah.

330
00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,080
But we weren't like super close growing up.

331
00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,880
So it was just nice to know like maybe, you know, she, and by the time I had visited her,

332
00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,440
she wasn't really talking much.

333
00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,480
We weren't sure if she actually knew who we were.

334
00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:13,480
Yeah.

335
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So it's nice.

336
00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:25,360
And then we have a story in our email from Clint.

337
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You remember Clint?

338
00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,360
I forgot.

339
00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,960
Clint sent us another story to read.

340
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Get out of here.

341
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Naturally I haven't ready yet.

342
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So I don't know what it says.

343
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Oh boy.

344
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Are you ready?

345
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I'm as ready as I'm going to be.

346
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All the way from Canadian.

347
00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:46,800
Yes.

348
00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,120
Hi Caitlin and Cassie.

349
00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,120
Hi.

350
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Hi Clint.

351
00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,120
Another C.

352
00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,120
That's right.

353
00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,120
All the C's.

354
00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,120
I'm just saying.

355
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We're just collecting creepy C people.

356
00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,160
It's fine.

357
00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:00,160
Yeah.

358
00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:07,560
Everyone who's listening who isn't a C name just change your names like not that hard.

359
00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,440
Or how about also we love you equally.

360
00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:16,040
Yeah, we love you whatever, whatever, whatever, however.

361
00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:21,480
I like how I'm the one giving off the mom energy in this.

362
00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,720
Like the least mom of all the mom being capable people.

363
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This is your circus and we are your monkeys.

364
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I guess.

365
00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,320
Double tie a new or alter later.

366
00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,000
Oh boy.

367
00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:44,280
Clint says since my last email you're still one of my three favorite podcasts and I have

368
00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,360
taken up tarot cards.

369
00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,600
That's awesome.

370
00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,360
Clint, I love that.

371
00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,360
That's one of the three.

372
00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,360
Who are the other two?

373
00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:53,360
I know.

374
00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,440
Well, they're really like really fucking awesome.

375
00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:57,440
Yeah.

376
00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:58,440
No.

377
00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,440
No competition.

378
00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:00,440
No.

379
00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,280
But we're like top from the three, right?

380
00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:11,040
But like if we sent you a deck of tarot cards, can we buy you?

381
00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,680
Tarot has really changed my life because of you.

382
00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,160
So thank you.

383
00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,000
I've been telling everyone about your podcast.

384
00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,200
And I saw more of my vision.

385
00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,920
Sorry I can't tell you about that.

386
00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,720
Oh, that's okay.

387
00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,360
Oh, I'm just like rereading.

388
00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:30,360
She's pre-reading.

389
00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:36,400
No, I'm rereading where it said tarot really changed my life because of you and I'm just

390
00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,000
really like holding onto that.

391
00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,720
I really want everyone in the world to do tarot.

392
00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,960
I really feel like that's our goal.

393
00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:45,960
Yeah.

394
00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,960
And also listen to True Crime.

395
00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:56,480
And unless you're a True Crime-er, unless you are the one doing the True Crime, don't listen

396
00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,840
to it because we don't have any tips.

397
00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,200
Unless it's going to make you not want to do it because you don't want to end up on a

398
00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,200
show.

399
00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,200
Oh, maybe that.

400
00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,200
Yeah.

401
00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,200
It's like two totally like sort of a dexter situation, right?

402
00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,760
Like something sets you on a path where you don't want to.

403
00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:13,760
Right.

404
00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:14,760
I hope so.

405
00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,040
But we can offer the world.

406
00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,040
I like that.

407
00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,560
Tarot and turning killers off because we're annoying.

408
00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:25,160
But I can tell you about another dream I had.

409
00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,160
This one won't make you cry.

410
00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:28,160
Okay.

411
00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,160
Okay.

412
00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,160
We'll challenge accepted.

413
00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,360
Maybe laugh a little bit like I did.

414
00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:37,760
What if we laugh until we cry?

415
00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,080
That would be on brand.

416
00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,080
Oh, okay.

417
00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,440
Well, this gets intense real quick, so let me like, but you said it was funny but okay.

418
00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,040
And why would you lie to us?

419
00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,560
Clint, you're messing with my emotions.

420
00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,800
Seriously.

421
00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:55,680
It started with me watching my own funeral.

422
00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,000
That's like yikes.

423
00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,480
The thought of Clint watching his own funeral.

424
00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,480
It like hurts my heart a little bit.

425
00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,480
Yeah.

426
00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:05,480
Yeah.

427
00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:13,400
And I'm physically unable to go to the place where I envision me envisioning my own

428
00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,400
funeral.

429
00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,600
No, we're just going to focus on Clint right now.

430
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,600
Clint, no.

431
00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:19,600
Clint.

432
00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,600
Okay.

433
00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:21,920
Do you want, I had a vision of your funeral.

434
00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,840
I have no idea what it was like, but in my vision just now snap vision.

435
00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:31,040
It was like Doby's funeral from Harry Potter.

436
00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,040
And that's the saddest thing I've ever seen of my time.

437
00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,040
Oh.

438
00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,040
Friend...

439
00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,040
Friend...

440
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,040
Okay.

441
00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,040
Okay.

442
00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,040
Oh, my God.

443
00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,040
Okay.

444
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,040
Oh, my God.

445
00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,520
You said we weren't going to cry.

446
00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,840
Why would you lie to us?

447
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,360
We literally did it to ourselves.

448
00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:51,360
Yeah.

449
00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:52,360
Okay.

450
00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:56,320
So it started with me watching my own funeral.

451
00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,120
Then I'm walking around my house, checking on my family.

452
00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:04,640
When I go, you said we were going to cry.

453
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:09,760
When I go into see my wife, I see her sleeping.

454
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,640
Well description of my room, you enter through the door.

455
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,160
There's a wall on the right and a short wall on the left.

456
00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,360
That's closest.

457
00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:21,640
Then you see my bed.

458
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:27,880
And telling you, because when I got past the closet, there was a shadow person attacking

459
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:28,880
my wife.

460
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,480
No, get out.

461
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:35,480
You're not invited.

462
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:41,640
This is extra creepy and everyone will see why later.

463
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,640
I had no idea.

464
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:43,640
I've never read this.

465
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,680
I had no idea this was in here.

466
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:46,680
Clint.

467
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,120
I lost my spot.

468
00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:51,120
Oh, my God.

469
00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:52,120
My brain hurts.

470
00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:53,120
This is so creepy.

471
00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:54,120
I'm so sorry.

472
00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:55,120
I can't.

473
00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:56,120
I can't.

474
00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:57,220
Okay.

475
00:19:57,220 --> 00:20:00,080
I grabbed him.

476
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,600
We start wrestling.

477
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:07,040
He bounced off the dresser and then fell through the bedside table as I'm punching the shadow

478
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,440
person.

479
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,000
I noticed Heather.

480
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,080
I guess that's his wife.

481
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,240
Heather woke up and was watching us.

482
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,440
Then I saw my daughter watching us.

483
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:25,240
That's when a portal opened a couple more shadow people grabbed me.

484
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,800
This is crazy.

485
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,320
They were dragging me towards the portal.

486
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:38,560
I looked at my daughter, blue her a kiss.

487
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,480
Clint, God damn it.

488
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,480
You lied.

489
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,080
Clint, we're mad at you now.

490
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,760
I think you underestimated her.

491
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:46,760
My all emotional.

492
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,160
She's reading ahead and I can tell her already based on her.

493
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,560
We're emotionally fragile.

494
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:54,560
I can't face.

495
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,560
Clint.

496
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,560
Clint.

497
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,560
Okay.

498
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,520
I looked at my daughter, blue her a kiss.

499
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:05,440
I looked at my left arm across my chest and over my right arm and that's how I would give

500
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,440
her kisses.

501
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,000
I would give her kisses and hugs.

502
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,480
Oh my God.

503
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,480
Seriously.

504
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,920
I literally can't fucking read this.

505
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,440
This is how I would give her kisses and hugs when she went on the school bus when she was

506
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,440
younger.

507
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:25,320
I literally thought like you were going to be dragged away and you're like saying you're

508
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:32,320
going to be dragged away and you're going to be dragged away and you're going to be dragged.

509
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,560
I think I just hit a new lock.

510
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,760
I'm like waiting for the slapping part, Clint.

511
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,680
Where does it get funny Clint?

512
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:44,680
Okay.

513
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,480
Then I said play time.

514
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,080
Oh, wait, what?

515
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,320
Then I said play time is open.

516
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:57,320
I said play time is open.

517
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,320
That's what I thought.

518
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,560
Then I said play time as I was laughing.

519
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,600
I let the shadow people take me through the portal and that's when I woke up and laughed

520
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,600
again.

521
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:10,920
Question.

522
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:19,520
Do you think it's possible that the shadow people only exist in our minds or do I get

523
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,920
play time after?

524
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,920
Or do I get play time after I'm dead?

525
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,160
Please feel free to share with your listeners.

526
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,160
Take care of me.

527
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,160
Safe.

528
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,160
A fan of yours, Clint.

529
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,160
Okay.

530
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:43,920
So I have to say immediately my impression is like the fact that he says play time and he's

531
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,360
like kind of laughing, right?

532
00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:58,360
As he is sort of, I don't know, collapsing into this portal, that makes me think in a way

533
00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:06,360
he's like, this is like, I don't know how else to put it other than play time.

534
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:08,040
This is play time.

535
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:15,160
I just distracted you from my family who are amongst the living and I saved them and

536
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,880
it's like the biggest.

537
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:22,360
It's almost like I'm jumping in this portal with a bomb.

538
00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:25,080
Like, "Haha, motherfuckers, you're going to take me out.

539
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,960
I'm going to take you with me."

540
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,200
Right.

541
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:35,600
That's how like just this overwhelming sense of like you won and they lost.

542
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:36,600
I don't know.

543
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,200
How else to describe that?

544
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,480
That's just the, I don't know.

545
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,760
I can't interpret it any other way in my mind.

546
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:51,160
I've been racking my brain in the last like a couple of minutes trying to think of this in

547
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:57,640
another lens or in another way and it's the only way I can like, you like it makes sense

548
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,640
to me.

549
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,760
That was kind of like what I was thinking at first but then until he said I woke up and

550
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:12,720
laughed again and then I was thinking like what if the portal was like his mind waking up

551
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,760
and the things were like trying to get to him like before he woke up and then he like

552
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,560
noticed he was waking up and he's like, "Haha motherfuckers, let's go and I'm bringing you

553
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:28,960
into my waking world and I'm going to beat you because it's daylight bitches, ain't no shadows

554
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,200
here."

555
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:38,160
That's an interesting like kind of still has the same impact though, right?

556
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,200
Because it's like, "Listen, you won.

557
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,640
They lost by it."

558
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,920
It is crazy though because it's like such a layered dream like going back to the beginning.

559
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,640
He is dead.

560
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:55,640
He's at his own funeral and then he's going around to try to like check on his family and

561
00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:02,400
that's when he sees the shadow people but then it's like then his daughter can see him.

562
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:08,640
Yeah, I feel like it's really interesting because it seems like at a certain point once he's

563
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:17,720
battling with the shadow people, both his wife and his daughter seem to like even in a nonverbal

564
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:23,880
way, he communicates that like it seems as though they can see him.

565
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:24,880
Yeah.

566
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:30,360
And I don't know, that's really odd to me as well but I just feel like this is like inception

567
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:31,360
level.

568
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:32,360
Yeah, it is.

569
00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:33,360
You know?

570
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:36,120
Gosh, and then awake of laughing.

571
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,720
I know, I'm not even imagining.

572
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,160
I have woken up.

573
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,160
I don't know.

574
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,080
Maybe laughing like maybe once or twice.

575
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,600
Crying, I'm probably a few times.

576
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,160
Yeah.

577
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,600
I feel like I've jolted away.

578
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,600
Yeah.

579
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:58,200
And even, yeah, just not even in an audible way.

580
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,200
Yeah.

581
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:06,200
I feel like more often than not because you know me, I'm just like this very like you emotions

582
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:14,920
and just feeling anything is so in a way like foreign to me.

583
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:15,920
Yeah.

584
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:21,480
It makes me sound like a robot but like if the shoe fits.

585
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,480
I don't know.

586
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:29,720
I feel like more than anything, I just wake up feeling like I'm jolted but it's inaudible

587
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:38,240
because I have this innate sense of like wanting to sort of like let up, quiet it down.

588
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,240
You know what I mean?

589
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,640
Like use your inside voice.

590
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,640
Yeah.

591
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:49,320
Like I've just woken up from a nightmare potentially and I'm like even in your sleep,

592
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,920
your sleeping sleepy state.

593
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:57,920
Listen, you don't stop being somebody who was raised by depression, Arab Midwesterners

594
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,360
just because you're sleeping because that's foolish.

595
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:02,360
Yeah.

596
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:03,360
Sleepiness for the day head.

597
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:04,360
You got to sleep with.

598
00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:10,440
Which was southern and you know we go back and forth.

599
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,440
Sleep with one eye open.

600
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:18,240
Or like both your eyes open but like only a little bit like a weirdo.

601
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:24,520
So I know I've told you and I think I've said this on a show but I don't breathe right.

602
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,520
Right.

603
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,520
Yeah.

604
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,520
Okay.

605
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,560
And no one seemed that surprised and I was like well thanks the fucking lot you guys.

606
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:39,200
Apparently I can't do anything right but literally apparently I can't because I also don't

607
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,200
link right.

608
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,200
Yeah.

609
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,200
I don't like that.

610
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,200
I think I've told you that.

611
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,200
Yeah.

612
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,200
But I don't know that we've ever talked about it on the show.

613
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,200
I don't know.

614
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,880
So I literally sleep kind of with both of my eyes a little bit open.

615
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,280
I don't even during daylight I don't even blink correctly.

616
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,280
No, God.

617
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,520
My eye doctor has watched this.

618
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,920
He has observed me blinking incorrectly.

619
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:12,360
It's like why you should take some fish while but also you don't blink right so that's

620
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:13,840
why your eyes will dry.

621
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,640
You should take some fish oil.

622
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,640
Yeah.

623
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:24,280
Okay, that'd be so great if I could just not have everything all of the bodily functions

624
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,440
that just I don't do them right.

625
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,920
You're just you're not not doing them wrong.

626
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,320
You're just dancing to the beat of your own drum.

627
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,120
You know, you're just doing a little different.

628
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:37,120
Yeah.

629
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:38,120
Doesn't meet it's wrong.

630
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,680
Anxiety is how I identify.

631
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,280
I'm just people don't blink completely anxious people don't breathe deeply.

632
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,640
This is where we are.

633
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,640
Yeah.

634
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,000
They also don't poop.

635
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,400
They also don't poop.

636
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,400
That's correct.

637
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,600
Thank you for reminding me.

638
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,600
You're welcome.

639
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaking of a Southern accent.

640
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:10,040
We had a I do too and I always call it a country accent for some stupid reason because I'm

641
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,000
not that smart.

642
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:20,040
And we have this like she's the dumbest person she or anyone else has ever known and that's

643
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,040
far from the truth.

644
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,880
The dumbest memory.

645
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,320
You guys we have something really exciting to share with you.

646
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,480
Let's hear a few words from our new pod besties.

647
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,440
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648
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,120
How about the accused Gilgo Beach serial killer or Candy Montgomery?

649
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,360
In our Killer Destinations podcast we immediately jump right to the story.

650
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,360
I'm Kathy.

651
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,200
And I'm Kathy and just like you we are obsessed with all things true crime.

652
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,760
We're also lifelong friends and on our Killer Destinations podcast we tell the best stories

653
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,960
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654
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,480
We also interspersicational humor and have a little fun along the way but we never forget

655
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,920
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656
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:13,400
And to Killer Destinations every Tuesday for your true crime fix.

657
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:19,880
Check them out creepy people you can find their info in our show notes.

658
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:29,720
Well we got a story in the form of audio messages from a listener named Nick and you know

659
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,480
he just like slipped us a couple little spooky story.

660
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,880
He slipped us a spooky if you will.

661
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,880
Stop it.

662
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:37,880
Stop it.

663
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:46,360
So I have some audios to play for you of a spooky story and then if we we can play some

664
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,680
and then pause and discuss as necessary.

665
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:59,720
And you'll quickly see why I deeply apologize to this listener for all of the terrible

666
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,600
Southern accents I have ever done.

667
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,200
Oh my god.

668
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,200
This is why I don't breathe right.

669
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,200
Okay.

670
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,200
Apparently they don't mind because they sent us a story.

671
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:21,480
Okay so the story goes as an early child I always had a very uneasy feeling, living in

672
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:30,680
the woods in Tennessee, miles away from any neighbors or anyone just nothing but wildlife.

673
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:37,100
There were a lot of very dark and ominous feelings just that kind of overwhelming sense of

674
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:39,840
something is not right here.

675
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:49,320
And while you know doing simple stuff like riding three-wheelers through the woods or getting

676
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:54,760
up and just getting something to drink in the mouth of the night you would always feel like

677
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,960
someone was watching.

678
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,840
And then it got to the point where I was able to see them.

679
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:08,080
It was like at first it was just kind of like distortions and I wouldn't really pay no

680
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,080
attention to it.

681
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,520
Look away real quick do something else.

682
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,880
Whatever I was finished what I was doing.

683
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:19,640
And then I would pay more attention eventually when the feeling came too creepy and started

684
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:25,360
seeing the shadows of people or two people in particular.

685
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:35,000
Okay so shadowy people interesting.

686
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,000
Shadowy people.

687
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,240
And then we just talked about this in the last story.

688
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,240
I know Clio.

689
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,440
I don't.

690
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,040
Also Tennessee sounds creepy.

691
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:58,960
You know wow I just don't know I don't know about that.

692
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,680
It's got to be pretty humid right?

693
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,160
Should have tied it off.

694
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,160
Real humid tons of bugs.

695
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,240
Yeah bugs I was thinking bugs severely haunted place.

696
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,280
Also you can hear in the audio you can hear like birds and stuff.

697
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,440
Oh God.

698
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,720
I was wondering if that's what I was hearing.

699
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,560
Yeah you can hear birds in the audio.

700
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,520
So cute hopefully it transfers into that final.

701
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,920
Okay let's replay or play more.

702
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,920
Play on.

703
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:27,920
Play on.

704
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:35,880
They would pace back and forth along my walls in my room.

705
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,120
They have been seen by other people.

706
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,440
It would always be that overwhelming feeling like they were about to balance it anytime.

707
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,400
And you could fill the intention.

708
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,680
Like that's hard when described.

709
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,160
You could almost have a psychic link with these things and know what they're thinking.

710
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,160
And they don't have to say anything and it just didn't feel good.

711
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,160
All right.

712
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,520
Please don't say anything.

713
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,920
I wonder okay Clint you'll have to tell us like did you do you have like some sort of psychic

714
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,520
link with these.

715
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,800
I mean I know it was in a dream but like could you tell what they were thinking and stuff.

716
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,360
You'll have to tell us okay.

717
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,520
Did you have any commentary?

718
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,360
Oh I was just just please don't say anything.

719
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,360
I don't want it.

720
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,360
I don't it doesn't need to speak.

721
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,080
I'm just going to go ahead and move on.

722
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,080
It doesn't need to speak the shadow person.

723
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,600
Nothing nothing should speak.

724
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,600
No no one.

725
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,680
No testimony needed.

726
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,480
Dismissed.

727
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,080
They followed me around until I was about 18 or 19 years old.

728
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,880
I joined the military.

729
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,560
Went out of Tennessee into a different state.

730
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,960
Some weird things happened in boot camp.

731
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:02,000
Or a couple of bunks and empty barracks got bent overnight after filling that same filling

732
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,160
I would fill throughout my entire life.

733
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:15,080
I'll get back home and nothing ever happens again until I'm like last year or the year before.

734
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,920
I saw what felt like was the shadow person against my wall and I felt that uneasy filling

735
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,920
again.

736
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,920
No.

737
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,920
No.

738
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,400
Okay so I was like oh okay so they went away and there was like until.

739
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:37,400
So what happens now you just like still see them and feel weird as anything else happened?

740
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,400
No.

741
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,400
No.

742
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,400
Nothing else happened.

743
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,400
Well there's another story.

744
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,960
I was doing the military to make that stop as well.

745
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,960
That didn't even work.

746
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,760
There was bent up bunks.

747
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,480
That's what he said right.

748
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,800
The bunks are bent.

749
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:58,040
That was probably a government experiment.

750
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,040
Right.

751
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,040
Yeah.

752
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:05,360
I was thinking like like a really big magnet they were like how big of a magnet will be

753
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,360
need.

754
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:12,200
I was just thinking maybe they just fell apart because they're probably like update things

755
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,200
that often there in the military.

756
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,720
That feels valid as well.

757
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:20,320
They just broke their big dudes.

758
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:25,960
I just that's what I want to think not to not say I don't believe you or something but

759
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,960
I just trying to make it feel better.

760
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,640
Yeah we really want to rationalize this.

761
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,640
Yeah.

762
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,640
But we can't.

763
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,920
Also the next story it's like just a tiny bit worse and scarier.

764
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:39,920
Great.

765
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,920
Yeah.

766
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,920
I can't wait.

767
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:42,920
Oh wait I can.

768
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,680
Do you have anything else you want to talk about?

769
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:48,680
About them shoes.

770
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:54,920
I can't think of anything Taylor's.

771
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,920
Okay.

772
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:56,920
Okay.

773
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,920
Okay.

774
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,760
So next one I'm going to cut out the very beginning because he says names and I don't want

775
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,760
to include the names.

776
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,360
He is saying that he lives with his girlfriend and his kids.

777
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:14,240
We embodied some friends over creepy friends and we played court games and chess and video

778
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:15,640
games and all that.

779
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,480
Hey, oh creepy friends.

780
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,640
Were your card games, tarot cards?

781
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,960
Come on.

782
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,960
We know they were.

783
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,960
Maybe Oracle.

784
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,680
You're feeling nasty.

785
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:32,160
The thing of the day we decided to all sit down and do the Ouija board.

786
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,160
Oh okay.

787
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:44,040
Now she really wanted the Ouija board to work and she was really upset because as always

788
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,280
the Ouija board never worked for her.

789
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,280
Where?

790
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,240
So I started making fun of demons and calling them out.

791
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:53,240
Okay.

792
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:54,240
Zach Baggins.

793
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:57,240
Pretty much making everyone uncomfortable trying to give something to happen.

794
00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:58,240
Oh no.

795
00:37:58,240 --> 00:37:59,240
And of course nothing happened.

796
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:03,040
I know that the candle didn't blow out on its own.

797
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,320
Don't entice the demons.

798
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,920
I think by entice you mean antagonize.

799
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:10,920
Integanize, yeah.

800
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,680
Well the same thing.

801
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,320
But yes antagonize is what I meant.

802
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,720
That was the correct word.

803
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:16,720
Well okay.

804
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:23,240
So I feel like part of you wanted to be nice and entice like you're like, "Can we all

805
00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:24,240
demon?"

806
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:25,240
We're all demon.

807
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:26,740
Well demon, demon.

808
00:38:26,740 --> 00:38:32,240
I feel like that was more like, "Can we all know stupid demon?"

809
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:33,240
I don't know.

810
00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:34,240
I don't know.

811
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:38,240
Well let's see what happens.

812
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,240
Ouija board.

813
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:48,400
Eventually our friends left and everything was fine until we were about to go to sleep and

814
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,000
we heard a really loud crash in the kitchen.

815
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,160
And it was on the front end of the kitchen table.

816
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:04,360
There was a show along the wall that had a bunch of her family heirlooms from the idling.

817
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,200
And it went flying across the kitchen.

818
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,720
I say flying across the kitchen but instead of falling straight down it went all the way

819
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:17,400
to the kitchen of Ireland like it had been thrown off the wall and all that stuff had shattered.

820
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:25,760
A day passes and I get really really sick.

821
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:32,680
And I chalk it up to a fever dream but it felt like so much more.

822
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,480
I remember falling asleep on the couch.

823
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,400
I don't remember falling asleep but I remember rolling over and looking in the middle of the

824
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,800
floor and there was a coffin.

825
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:47,920
I was open and you could see a fetid core.

826
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:54,120
I mean just completely disgusting, oozy body decomposed.

827
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,600
I mean you know not a fresh corpse.

828
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,560
It was weeks old.

829
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,560
It was there.

830
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:05,440
I remember getting off the couch and wondering why.

831
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,280
My girlfriend and all the kids couldn't see it.

832
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:15,000
And keep in mind everything that's going on in real life is also having my dream like.

833
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,280
She was sitting there on her phone watching TV on the chair and that's what was happening.

834
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:26,920
Kids were doing their thing back and forth but it was so vivid and so real.

835
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,720
And then all of a sudden the corpse rose up out of the coffin and started to crawl down

836
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:33,720
my mouth.

837
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:40,800
I jumped up off the couch and busted through the door and started throwing up trying to

838
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,800
expel what still felt like something was trying to crawl down my throat.

839
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,800
Oh my God.

840
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,320
Yeah.

841
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:56,360
The oozy corpse trying to crawl down his throat.

842
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,360
Oh my God.

843
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,360
You're making Kalen puke congratulations.

844
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,360
Oh my God.

845
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,120
That is.

846
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,360
I'd forgotten that that one had a user's like a woman.

847
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,360
Get her the call.

848
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,360
I'm not going to throw up.

849
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,360
I'm not going.

850
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:23,160
I feel like I want to throw up because I can like physically feel how just I have to I

851
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,160
can't.

852
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,680
I'll let you go ahead.

853
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:32,560
I can I can feel that in a way that I just.

854
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,560
Yeah.

855
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,640
It's I don't like that.

856
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,640
I can either.

857
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:42,040
I can completely like visualize that.

858
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,360
I really hate it.

859
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,360
I really hate it.

860
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,360
I feel like I'm feeling it.

861
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,160
It's in your throat.

862
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,160
Yeah.

863
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,160
Yeah.

864
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,600
It feels like your throat's like closing up and you're like listening to a story like that.

865
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,160
Oh my God.

866
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:04,520
So I had forgotten obviously I did listen to those audios before playing them and I did

867
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:13,120
not remember really that there was like a coffin aspect to this story and and then like

868
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,080
Clint's story is like he's at his funeral.

869
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,080
Oh my God.

870
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,840
And then like and the shadow people.

871
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:26,720
I did not even make that connection and so obvious that's really embarrassing.

872
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:29,560
Ms. Cole would be it's not please.

873
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,360
Oh my gosh.

874
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,640
I'm like really good at making connections.

875
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:40,440
I you know a lot of times I am and then sometimes we're a little.

876
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,280
Hey, you're disturbed over there.

877
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:53,000
I yeah, anything that like gives me the heave-jeebies really just sets my brain off in a different

878
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000
direction.

879
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,840
Consider me heaved and jeezed.

880
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,160
I just like what was skimming Clint's story.

881
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:08,680
I got just to see like if there was anything else.

882
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,200
In there that would.

883
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,200
They were trying to grab him and take him through the portal.

884
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,280
Also I guess we didn't really answer your question.

885
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,640
Do you think it's?

886
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,520
No we didn't really do you think it's possible that shadow people only exist in our minds

887
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:32,720
or do you or do I get play time after I'm dead.

888
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:38,360
I don't know why like the I feel like they're two separate questions like I think shadow

889
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:46,080
people exist in your mind and are like possibly also in the world.

890
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,360
They can two things can be true.

891
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:53,640
Are we sure thing?

892
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,920
And also if it's in your mind it doesn't mean it's not real either.

893
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,920
That's true.

894
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:03,880
It's just as real unless you are obviously like if you have schizophrenia and you're dealing

895
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,800
with mental illness.

896
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,280
But those things are so very real to them.

897
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,200
Yeah I was just going to say that's very real to them.

898
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,160
You should take the advice of whatever they're saying to you.

899
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,960
Does it mean it's not like real to you though.

900
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,960
Anyway.

901
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:26,680
I do I feel like enough people experience that but that feels very real to me.

902
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:35,720
And if you want my opinion I think you get plenty of play time after you transition.

903
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:37,720
I don't like to say transition.

904
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:38,720
In transition.

905
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:40,200
In to the next world.

906
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,200
The next life.

907
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,680
I don't know.

908
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:48,520
I like to think that shadow people can like take you into the other life.

909
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,640
I don't know.

910
00:44:50,640 --> 00:45:00,960
Yeah I think for the most part a lot of a lot of what we think of as being sort of of

911
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:06,400
the afterlife and sort of of a paranormal realm.

912
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:15,480
I really think that it has almost as much power as we give it in a way.

913
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,960
Which is I mean it's unfortunate for me.

914
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:30,600
But I do things that you know I think that a lot of it's real and we're experiencing certain

915
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:31,920
things.

916
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:40,880
But I do think also at the same time I do think there's a lot of it that really do believe

917
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:46,040
that regardless of how awful it feels.

918
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:53,680
I don't think that they can cause us harm in the way that we understand.

919
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:54,960
Not physical harm.

920
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,360
Not in the way that our brains understand at least.

921
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,360
Yeah.

922
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,840
I just got real hippy-dippy.

923
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:11,440
But I do think though that there's a lot of things that they might be able to be present

924
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,920
or visible to you.

925
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:19,840
I do think there's probably a lot of things that even if they can touch you I don't think

926
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,080
that they can hurt you.

927
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,520
And maybe unless you want them to.

928
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:32,160
You know I feel like if you're making like a TV show and you want the drama like in your

929
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,360
like a single bite to fake in it.

930
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:41,480
Well I'm just saying like if you're that type of person who wants to go into like a scary

931
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:46,640
place and think that you and like want bad things to happen to you so that it's like

932
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:51,120
evident that there's things there you're going to get in.

933
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,880
I didn't come up with this concept.

934
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,680
I've heard it many places.

935
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,680
Yeah.

936
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,680
Like it's just it's about how you go into it.

937
00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:59,680
Yeah.

938
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:06,320
Yeah because I do think that there are places that we visited and I certainly went into it

939
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:12,440
feeling like oh shit I don't know if I should be here and knowing that I'm sensitive and

940
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:20,520
then it's actually been a more positive than negative experience even if there is a lot

941
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,840
of intense energy.

942
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,840
Yeah.

943
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,840
Because that's how we felt about man race.

944
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:33,320
I really did feel like there's a lot of intense energy that there is.

945
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:39,800
And I felt a little bit overwhelmed and I was definitely like I was ready to leave when

946
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,280
we left.

947
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,680
I wasn't.

948
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:43,680
I know.

949
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:51,160
You know I don't know maybe I'm a spiritual introvert.

950
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:58,120
But I felt very overwhelmed at the end of that experience because it was very intense.

951
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:06,120
But I didn't ever really feel like there was anything that gave me cause for concern in

952
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,600
the sense of I would come to harm.

953
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:09,600
Yeah.

954
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:16,720
And again, you know these are you know I'm basing this on my experience and I can't.

955
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:21,640
I certainly I know that it's not the same for everyone and that's not the same experience

956
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,800
that I've had in every place.

957
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:33,120
But I really do feel like in the vast majority of situations and circumstances, I do think

958
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:38,800
that I don't think those things can hurt us.

959
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:39,800
Not really.

960
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,640
I kind of agree.

961
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,800
Maybe I maybe I want to believe that.

962
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,680
Well, but you keep on wanting to believe that cause that will protect you.

963
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:48,680
I believe.

964
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:49,680
Manifestation.

965
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,160
Oh man.

966
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,800
So what do we think about this?

967
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,760
I mean, we don't have to go back to the dream.

968
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,920
Obviously that was crazy and intense.

969
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:06,440
But do you think who's being possessed or something like the I feel like something trying

970
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:13,240
to come out, someone trying to climb down your throat and get into your body is like

971
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:16,760
a sign of like possession, right?

972
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,560
I mean, it didn't get in because he threw it up.

973
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:28,600
Yeah, I feel like that to me reads us something that might have been an attempt.

974
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:29,600
Yeah.

975
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:37,720
But I think I don't know, I just keep going back to that it's like was somebody who's

976
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:46,160
sensitive and they have an awareness and a healthy fear of things that they don't understand.

977
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,840
I just feel like you're going to have a hell of a time inhabiting that person.

978
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:51,840
Yeah.

979
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,440
Maybe that's what I want to believe.

980
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,680
But yeah, I don't know.

981
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,640
I don't think so.

982
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,240
To me that doesn't read as somebody who has been possessed.

983
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:03,720
Oh, yeah, no, I don't think.

984
00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:04,720
I don't think.

985
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:05,720
Currently.

986
00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:07,720
It is possessed.

987
00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:08,720
I wouldn't think so.

988
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:10,200
I wouldn't think so.

989
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,160
It just seems like demons got mad.

990
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:18,200
They were being called out in tight, antagonized.

991
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,200
Integinized.

992
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:26,000
And they threw some china down and wanted to fuck with your esophagus.

993
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,400
And I don't know, maybe it was just like scary you into not doing that again or I don't

994
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,320
know, maybe it was a phone.

995
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,040
I wonder where they go after.

996
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,280
It was like nothing happened after that.

997
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,240
I thought he said anyway.

998
00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:40,240
They just got bored.

999
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:41,240
It's like the ADHD.

1000
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:42,240
Yeah.

1001
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:43,240
They were like, all right.

1002
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:44,240
I can't possess that one.

1003
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:47,240
I'll just go find another one.

1004
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:48,240
Yeah.

1005
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:49,240
Yeah.

1006
00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:53,920
All right, I wonder if it's like this rule and possession land where if you try to possess

1007
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,480
someone and fail, like you can't try again for seven years.

1008
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:04,520
Oh, and do you feel like seven years is like the do you think that feels like the

1009
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,520
right number?

1010
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,520
It's probably like 666.

1011
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:11,520
They can try again for 600 to six years.

1012
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,520
Do I say that again?

1013
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,520
I've not had one sip of alcohol.

1014
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:25,840
I really, I really, I cannot possess anyone for six hundred and six years.

1015
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,840
I don't know.

1016
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,640
Well, I hope send us more stories.

1017
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:34,080
If you're shadow people do anything else, apparently they're just hanging around and

1018
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,080
you see them every now and then?

1019
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,080
I don't know.

1020
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,080
Hey, yeah.

1021
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,080
It's kind of hoping they would go away.

1022
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:46,400
But I wanted to I wanted to think like they were protectors.

1023
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,640
Maybe they were a new theory.

1024
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,640
Oh.

1025
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:55,680
I wanted to believe like the shadow people are protectors and just like watching over you.

1026
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,040
But I was like, oh, but the bad, the really bad feeling.

1027
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:04,240
But then I was like, what if the bad feeling is there and then the shadow people show up

1028
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:08,480
because something else is going on and they actually are protecting you?

1029
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,400
I mean, that could be.

1030
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,520
And just the scary thing you can't see it somewhere else.

1031
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:14,520
Diamonds.

1032
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,240
You don't know what that looks like.

1033
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:17,240
Yeah.

1034
00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:18,240
Yeah.

1035
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:24,520
I mean, I feel like that seems like a plausible explanation as well.

1036
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:25,520
Yeah.

1037
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,320
I just wanted to explore a couple lanes here.

1038
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,840
So you would see what we think.

1039
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,960
If you guys think anything different, let us know.

1040
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:39,360
If you have more stories about shadow people and creepy like coffin dreams.

1041
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:40,360
My God.

1042
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,360
Oh.

1043
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:46,280
You can email them to us at pnwhonsonhomicide@gmail.com.

1044
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,920
You can send us voice messages if you would like.

1045
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,760
Can we get voice messages to our texts?

1046
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:53,760
Do you know?

1047
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,920
I'm not sure.

1048
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:56,920
Let's test it.

1049
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,680
Can you receive through those or is it just sending?

1050
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,680
I have no idea.

1051
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,680
I really have no idea.

1052
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,160
That's probably just sending.

1053
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,160
Anyway.

1054
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,160
Yeah.

1055
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,160
I don't know.

1056
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,160
If they wanted to send us a voice memo, I'm sure they could through the text line.

1057
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:19,320
I think the website now has like a component where they can use.

1058
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:25,960
And if you wanted to record a voice memo and just send it to us through like our Google

1059
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:31,160
form or send it as attachment to an email, you can do that.

1060
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:37,360
There's so many different ways where if you really want to be the one to sort of voice

1061
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:44,280
the story, at least even if it's just us, you have voice the story and have us still

1062
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,600
tell it, we would be honored.

1063
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,080
Yeah.

1064
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,960
Like if you don't want to type it out, send a voice message, but you don't want your voice

1065
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,400
on the pod, we can like retell it for you.

1066
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,400
Yeah.

1067
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:00,400
1000%. Totes.

1068
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,400
We'd love that.

1069
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,400
Yeah.

1070
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,640
Also, we'll send you stickers still if you give us your address and return.

1071
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:06,640
Yes.

1072
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:07,640
All right.

1073
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,440
Well, should we do a couple tarot reads for these?

1074
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,440
Yes.

1075
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,440
Stores.

1076
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:25,520
We're doing tarot for creepy people chronicle story.

1077
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:31,360
All the dang shadow people, crazy dreams.

1078
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,160
I thought these candles would go really good together.

1079
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:40,520
So I'm burning this boys and apple candle that Caitlin got me so long ago.

1080
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,520
So long ago.

1081
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,720
And I just have the heart to burn it yet, but we're burning it today.

1082
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:52,520
And then I have the haunted circus candle from mythic wick.

1083
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:53,520
Yeah.

1084
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,520
Okay.

1085
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:55,520
I say it right.

1086
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:56,720
Yeah, you do.

1087
00:54:56,720 --> 00:55:02,840
And that's like caramel apple, circus, like popcorn and smoke and fire or something.

1088
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,840
It's like ghostly like smoking fire.

1089
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,840
It smells so good.

1090
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:15,880
Oh, drawing for Clint.

1091
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,960
Four of cups.

1092
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,880
Four of cups has a cute ghost on it because it's from my cute ghost deck.

1093
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,880
Cute.

1094
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:25,880
So cute.

1095
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,080
It has four cups on it.

1096
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,080
Surprise, surprise.

1097
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,080
Shut.

1098
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,080
Okay.

1099
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,560
Here we go.

1100
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,320
So we drew that upright.

1101
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,320
Correct.

1102
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,320
Okay.

1103
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:49,280
So the four of cups are keywords are withdrawal, rest, boredom, lack of inspiration, rest,

1104
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,800
sleepy.

1105
00:55:53,800 --> 00:56:00,840
The four of cups in the writer, wait Smith and other decks depicts a loonsome person sitting

1106
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,320
beneath a tree.

1107
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:10,120
Some show a disembodied hand passing him or her a cup.

1108
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:18,120
The idea, the idea is that you've gone off on your own and art receiving what others

1109
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,320
hold out to you at this time.

1110
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:27,760
You may be withdrawing from your usual routine, work, friends, etc.

1111
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,320
In order to get in touch with yourself.

1112
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,800
Well, you know, self love is important.

1113
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:33,800
It's not a bad thing.

1114
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,440
Boundary setting.

1115
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:41,680
The upright four of cups symbolizes boredom and stagnation.

1116
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:47,880
You're not satisfied with your life at this time, but lack the incentive to make changes.

1117
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:53,960
You've detached emotionally from people and situations.

1118
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:58,960
Sometimes this card indicates you've sacrificed happiness for security.

1119
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:05,960
Which I feel is true of anyone living in late stage capital.

1120
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:14,520
Well, also just that statement, like sacrificing happiness for security, it's like he was laughing

1121
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,200
while trying to save his family.

1122
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:22,080
I don't know why that kind of just like the juxtaposition of that is very interesting

1123
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,080
to me.

1124
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,080
Yeah, thanks for the big word.

1125
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,080
Yeah.

1126
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,080
Oh, God.

1127
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,840
I needed it.

1128
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:34,360
If you're reading about money, this card can mean you're too attached to money and security.

1129
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,760
Perhaps at the expense of love and joy.

1130
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:45,000
Which I feel like you were just discussing off my cow.

1131
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:50,280
You might be experiencing one at the expense of another.

1132
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,280
Yeah.

1133
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:57,120
Perhaps you've prioritized money in the past and now seek meaning in other things.

1134
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,520
He just got a tarot deck.

1135
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,480
Oh, yeah.

1136
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:08,480
And I feel like it just is sort of symbolic of him seeking something and maybe trying to

1137
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,240
find some meaning.

1138
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:18,960
And I think honestly, if you do terror readings for yourself and also for others, I've frequently

1139
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:26,320
done them for family and friends.

1140
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:32,480
You'll find kind of little bits of wisdom that sort of, wow, I really needed to hear that.

1141
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:37,360
And it might not influence your life in some sort of crazy way, but it's just what you

1142
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,040
needed to hear today.

1143
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,040
Yeah.

1144
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,520
Yeah.

1145
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:50,240
If the reading is about your job, you probably feel stuck and bored with your job.

1146
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,560
Which like, okay, same as who isn't.

1147
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:54,560
Less is this one.

1148
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:55,560
Yeah.

1149
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:56,560
That's pretty cool.

1150
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,520
I know, right?

1151
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:06,040
You may long for more creativity and enjoyment, but have opted for security instead.

1152
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,040
Yeah.

1153
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,880
I mean, you have to have it.

1154
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:10,880
Something you need.

1155
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:11,880
It's true.

1156
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:18,560
And with a family in particular, that's, you know, the security of you, of not just yourself,

1157
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,040
but your family, that really has to be paramount.

1158
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,040
Yeah.

1159
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:32,680
In a reading about love, the force shows you withdrawing affection and energy from a relationship.

1160
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,880
Perhaps routine has sacked your enthusiasm.

1161
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:42,880
This card also symbolizes a relationship based on security rather than passion.

1162
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:47,760
I feel like every relationship goes through phases.

1163
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,360
And I don't know if that's a phase that you're in right now.

1164
00:59:51,360 --> 01:00:02,360
But it can be very easy to move a relationship from one phase to the next or to your specifically

1165
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,000
desired phase.

1166
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:14,000
If you know, you kind of put in that time and that energy and the work to sort of make it

1167
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:19,360
something that feels new and different, even if you've been in it for a long time.

1168
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,360
Yeah.

1169
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:21,360
You're so wise.

1170
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:22,360
You're not even married yet.

1171
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:27,360
Not yet, but I mean, I have a way to do it.

1172
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:37,680
I mean, at the ripe old age of 25, getting married for the very first time.

1173
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:45,200
Now I mean, I think, you know, it's always easier to think about these things in relation

1174
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:53,480
to someone else and feel like you can weigh in a way that's meaningful and you can give

1175
01:00:53,480 --> 01:01:01,480
them insight in a way that, I mean, even someone that's close to you, probably maybe even more

1176
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:08,440
sell someone that's close to you because not that, you know, we don't adore you, but just

1177
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:14,480
that, you know, we're not as close to on the day to day to the situation.

1178
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:22,680
We can just say, you know, maybe, you know, maybe whether it's a romantic relationship,

1179
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,440
a platonic one, a work relationship.

1180
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,680
What if it's like your shadow person relationship?

1181
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,960
Maybe don't work on that one.

1182
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:37,160
If it feels monotonous and you don't want it to be, you know, there are avenues that you

1183
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,160
can explore to remedy that.

1184
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,160
Yeah.

1185
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,760
There's always something that can be done about everything.

1186
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:48,160
I mean, obviously not like with extremes, like you can't cure cancer.

1187
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,920
Like, you know what I mean, but like just normal stuff, like there's always something that

1188
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:53,920
can be done.

1189
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:54,920
Right.

1190
01:01:54,920 --> 01:02:03,920
When it comes to like relationship problems, when it comes to, you know, largely social issues

1191
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:12,360
and, you know, your individual dynamics, those are things that they can be changed.

1192
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,360
We can work on that.

1193
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,360
Yeah.

1194
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:20,360
Well, should we draw for the next story?

1195
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,600
Actually, what I was going to say, we don't even know if this card relates to you, Clint,

1196
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,920
but if it does let us know.

1197
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,520
We don't know what's going on over there.

1198
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,200
We're just reading from the book.

1199
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,200
So.

1200
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,200
Yeah.

1201
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,200
Thank you for your story.

1202
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,200
We love that.

1203
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:36,200
So much.

1204
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,200
We love hearing from Clint.

1205
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,200
It's always entertaining.

1206
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,200
We always cry.

1207
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,680
So that's like our, that's our thing now.

1208
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,200
So you can never not make us cry when you send us the story.

1209
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,200
Apparently.

1210
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,480
That is his thing of ours.

1211
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:54,640
I cannot believe he's not going to make us cry and then proceeded to tell us the saddest

1212
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:55,640
dream.

1213
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:56,640
It's just.

1214
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:57,640
Okay.

1215
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:05,400
Well, let's draw a story for, let's draw a card for next story.

1216
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,400
Okay.

1217
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:12,200
This is definitely when I went and I picked one with Clint because I felt like I knew,

1218
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,440
but you got to, you got to do this one.

1219
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:17,760
I was in that region.

1220
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:18,760
It's been eyeballing me.

1221
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,760
Oh, the moon.

1222
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:20,760
Interesting.

1223
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,160
I was wearing a shirt that had the moon on it earlier today.

1224
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,680
That's so funny.

1225
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:26,680
Okay.

1226
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,920
Oh, this is all about like a nighttime dream.

1227
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,080
This is all about like secrets and shadows.

1228
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,880
Oh, shadow people.

1229
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:36,880
Secrets.

1230
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,840
What are your secrets, Nick?

1231
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,160
What are your psychro.

1232
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,160
Oh boy.

1233
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:42,160
This is so perfect.

1234
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:43,160
Oh my gosh.

1235
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,160
Moon is like totally like shadow.

1236
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:45,160
Like it's crazy.

1237
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,160
This is really interesting.

1238
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,160
Okay.

1239
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,160
Okay.

1240
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,160
He words are intuition.

1241
01:03:49,160 --> 01:04:02,920
The unconscious.

1242
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,440
Oh, hello.

1243
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,440
Mystery illusion and secrets.

1244
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,440
I said secrets.

1245
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,640
What are your secrets?

1246
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,560
Nicholas, we're coming for you on Tennessee.

1247
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,320
I don't know if you still live there, not.

1248
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:18,840
I assume wherever you are.

1249
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,280
Once you still have an accent, you probably still live in Tennessee, right?

1250
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,280
That's how that works.

1251
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:24,280
I don't think so.

1252
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:29,080
I think you don't move and pick up the accent over you go, necessarily.

1253
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,280
I'm probably so offensive to this house.

1254
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,160
I deeply apologize.

1255
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:35,160
They love it.

1256
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:36,680
I love your accent.

1257
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:37,680
Bless your heart.

1258
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,560
Bless your heart.

1259
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,600
Bless your heart.

1260
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:51,880
The moon is a magical mysterious part that symbolizes the unconscious, the realm of dreams,

1261
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,520
imagination and psychic impressions.

1262
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,720
Crazy.

1263
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:04,480
Some deck show the moon as full, others in its crescent phase.

1264
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,240
Where some of it shadowed.

1265
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:15,760
On the right-of-way smith's deck, two canines, a dog and a wolf, howl at the moon.

1266
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:22,800
At the bottom of the card is a pool or pond of water from which crawls a crab.

1267
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,400
Oh, oh, interesting.

1268
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,400
Oh.

1269
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:32,400
Symbol of the astrological sign cancer ruled by the moon.

1270
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,400
That's me, you guys.

1271
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,200
I have a crab on my foot.

1272
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,920
I probably don't want to show my foot, let's see.

1273
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:42,240
It's like a crab craw foot.

1274
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,080
You can't.

1275
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,160
You literally can't get it in frame.

1276
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,160
Can you see it?

1277
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,160
Kind of.

1278
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,160
Well, take a picture of it.

1279
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:59,640
I thought it was funnier to try to look at what's like you with your shoes.

1280
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:05,400
At the bottom of the card is a pool or pond of water from which crawls a crab.

1281
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:11,080
Symbol of the astrological sign cancer ruled by the moon.

1282
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,400
Crawfish or lobster.

1283
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:14,400
Crawfish?

1284
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:15,400
Crawlfish.

1285
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,760
I like to think of it as being lobster.

1286
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:18,760
Because that's how it looks.

1287
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,960
Yeah, lobster is delicious.

1288
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:27,920
The water suggests the moon's link with the emotions in the unconscious realm.

1289
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:28,920
Totally.

1290
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,480
Oh, I just thought like crawfish boil like in the south.

1291
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,480
I think yeah.

1292
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:36,480
That's the video.

1293
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,480
I was like, yeah, I've been there for days.

1294
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,240
You have to say it, Caitlin.

1295
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:41,240
Come on.

1296
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:42,320
Well, I mean, I don't.

1297
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:46,480
If it relate with the card didn't know that this story was from the south.

1298
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,480
But didn't it?

1299
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:48,480
Didn't it?

1300
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:49,720
It didn't know.

1301
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:56,480
The moon urges you to pay more attention to your inner self, your lunar self.

1302
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:01,200
Oh, didn't that last card kind of say that too?

1303
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,200
I think a little bit.

1304
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,960
It's about self reflection.

1305
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:12,080
I think in both of these instances, the light of the sun enables us to see the world around

1306
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:13,080
us.

1307
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:22,520
But the moon allows us to eliminate, illuminate, excuse me, illuminate what springs naturally

1308
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,920
from inside us.

1309
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:30,160
So very cancer type stuff going on here.

1310
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:35,160
I immediately cannot connect because it's very gushy.

1311
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,160
Do you know it's very emotional?

1312
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:38,160
Yeah.

1313
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,160
Well, do you know what that also reminds me of?

1314
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:41,160
What?

1315
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:42,160
Vomit.

1316
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,160
Oh.

1317
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,160
What did it say?

1318
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,160
Read that again.

1319
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:46,160
It's delightful.

1320
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:50,240
The light of the sun enables us to see the world around us.

1321
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:56,160
But the moon allows us to illuminate what springs naturally from inside us.

1322
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,160
Wow.

1323
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:58,160
Springs.

1324
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,160
Springs naturally from inside us.

1325
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,160
As a projectile from within.

1326
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:04,160
That's what it sounded like.

1327
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:05,160
He was vomiting.

1328
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:06,160
It is.

1329
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,160
Okay.

1330
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:13,480
We've got an extra excerpt before our whole interpretation.

1331
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:21,480
Evidence of moon worship is found in such widely buried cultures as those of the in a

1332
01:08:21,480 --> 01:08:31,200
saucy Indians of New Mexico, the Greeks, Romans, Chinese, pre-Columbian, Peruvians,

1333
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:35,680
Burmese, Phoenicians, and Egyptians.

1334
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,120
So basically every continent.

1335
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:39,120
Yeah.

1336
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:40,120
Not shocking.

1337
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,320
No.

1338
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:50,120
In the craft, when we refer to the great god by the Hebrew names, L or Elohim, we borrow

1339
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:58,840
the new terms that entered Hebrew from Arabic, where the name "Ela" derives from a word

1340
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,840
that means moon.

1341
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:01,840
Hmm.

1342
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:02,840
I had no idea.

1343
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:03,840
Me neither.

1344
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:04,840
Wow.

1345
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:05,840
Okay.

1346
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,600
Now we're going to get to your actual interpretation.

1347
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,200
This is really interesting.

1348
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:15,680
The moon upright shows you tuning into your lunar energies.

1349
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:20,160
You're becoming more aware of your feelings and inner life.

1350
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:24,880
The moon also suggests psychic ability.

1351
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:31,320
You can sense other people's vibrations because you're connected to the information network

1352
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:36,160
of the invisible world or an invisible string.

1353
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:37,160
What?

1354
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:42,200
That's crazy.

1355
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:43,200
We talked about that.

1356
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,200
Did we talk about that in this episode?

1357
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,200
It was not like a pat.

1358
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,200
We've recorded three episodes today.

1359
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:49,200
Yeah.

1360
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,200
We're actually bringing people.

1361
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:53,200
Yeah.

1362
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:54,200
Oh, that's a...

1363
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:55,200
Nick, are you psychic?

1364
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:56,200
Let us know.

1365
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,200
Can you feel our vibrations?

1366
01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,200
Okay.

1367
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,200
Listen to this.

1368
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:08,000
Pay attention to your dreams, feelings, instincts, and intuition.

1369
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:14,560
For artistic people, the moon's appearance may indicate a time of increased imagination

1370
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,160
and creativity.

1371
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,160
I hear crows.

1372
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,160
That's a good sign.

1373
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:26,560
Interrating about money, this card recommends listening to your intuition as well as your intellect

1374
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,040
in connection with a money matter.

1375
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,640
I mean, that's pretty standard advice.

1376
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:32,640
I feel like...

1377
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:33,640
I feel like...

1378
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:34,640
Solid.

1379
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:41,160
However, don't make a decision based on emotion alone.

1380
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:42,320
Which is...

1381
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,640
I feel like that goes for money and pretty much everything else.

1382
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:47,640
Yeah.

1383
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:57,000
The moon can also point to ups and downs, changing phases in a financial situation.

1384
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:04,040
If the reading is about your job, the moon can mean a situation has a hidden or dark side.

1385
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:05,040
Hmm.

1386
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:11,800
This isn't necessarily bad, but you may not be aware of all of the dynamics at work.

1387
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:12,800
Well, shoot.

1388
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,880
Nick, watch out.

1389
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:20,480
Illusions or secrets may cause confusion.

1390
01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:26,360
If you begin something during the new moon, you may see things more clearly or a project

1391
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:31,280
may reach culmination during the full moon.

1392
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:32,280
Interesting.

1393
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,920
Look up when the next new moon is, because I know boys probably don't usually care about

1394
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,800
when the new moon is.

1395
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,400
I mean, I'm obviously making a gender stereotype there.

1396
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,000
You guys know what I mean.

1397
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,000
Yeah.

1398
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,760
Oh, it's soon.

1399
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,240
Oh, it's soon.

1400
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:49,240
Oh, it's...

1401
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:50,240
Oh, it's just...

1402
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:51,240
It's just happened.

1403
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:52,240
Yeah, it happened two days ago.

1404
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:53,240
So you missed your shot.

1405
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:57,240
You'll have to wait until next new moon, which is...

1406
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:58,240
Oh, yeah.

1407
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,240
Oh, yeah.

1408
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:00,240
Oh, yeah.

1409
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,240
Oh, yeah.

1410
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,520
Next new moon, which is on July 5th.

1411
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:05,520
Oh, interesting.

1412
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:06,520
Okay.

1413
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,520
When is the full moon?

1414
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,320
Oh, sorry.

1415
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,400
Two weeks' fish from now, let's see.

1416
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,800
Full moon is June 21st.

1417
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,280
Oh, wow.

1418
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,520
Second day of summer, I think.

1419
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,880
And then the July is July 21st.

1420
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:23,880
Okay.

1421
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:24,880
Cool.

1422
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,040
Good to know.

1423
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,840
Just making plans.

1424
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:33,840
I mean, now those details, ironing out.

1425
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:34,840
I don't know.

1426
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,840
I might have said that weird.

1427
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:37,840
That's okay.

1428
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:38,840
Get over it.

1429
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,840
You say most things when I'm just kidding, you don't.

1430
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:41,840
I can't.

1431
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:42,840
No.

1432
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:49,360
In a reading about love, this card symbolizes a highly emotional relationship that may be tinged

1433
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,400
with illusions.

1434
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:58,640
Sometimes it represents a sensitive partner who nurtures you, especially creatively.

1435
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:03,640
Or that you're working on issues of mothering and nurturing.

1436
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,640
Interesting.

1437
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,960
All right.

1438
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:14,480
Our extra excerpt is extra long.

1439
01:13:14,480 --> 01:13:21,560
When looking for adventure in a dark and deserted landscape, we should ask only for the

1440
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,520
light of the moon.

1441
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:32,480
Men or imaginations can create more exotic explanations for the wrestling in the undergrowth

1442
01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:41,360
or the dark, bottomless voids, which open up ahead of us.

1443
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:46,760
We comfort ourselves too much with light.

1444
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:53,720
Sometimes we must wander in the dark so that our other senses can find their full expression

1445
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:59,320
and we hear more clearly the message of the night.

1446
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:06,680
The wilderness and the strange creatures that inhabit the unseen spaces.

1447
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:07,680
Whoa.

1448
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,760
That's pretty cool.

1449
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,800
Kind of creepy though.

1450
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,520
The creatures that came out of the dark in these stories are.

1451
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:19,520
Yeah.

1452
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,040
That's a lot.

1453
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,040
But I don't know.

1454
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:26,400
Maybe that goes to like what I was saying is like you can't see the bad thing and the shadow

1455
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,200
people that you can see are the ones protecting you.

1456
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:31,360
Maybe.

1457
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,840
And you can't have shadow without light.

1458
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:38,000
Oh, I don't know.

1459
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,480
My body is.

1460
01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:42,480
Wow.

1461
01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:49,480
Well, both of you guys let us know if this is relating to your life or your, I mean,

1462
01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:53,840
obviously parts of them were relating to the story, but I mean, you don't have to tell

1463
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:54,840
us your life.

1464
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:55,840
But tell us if the card relates.

1465
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:56,840
We like to know.

1466
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:57,840
I like to tell us your life.

1467
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,840
Like, feel free to tell us.

1468
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:01,320
Yeah, you can tell us your life.

1469
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:02,840
What's going on at work?

1470
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:06,520
What's going on with this relationship that's very emotional and passionate.

1471
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,520
I love it.

1472
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:12,520
Well, that was cool.

1473
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:17,520
I really like getting like a voice message story from people.

1474
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:18,520
Yeah.

1475
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:19,520
It's fun.

1476
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,840
It gives people a break from hearing us read.

1477
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:27,280
We're going to have to take a look before this one comes out and see if we can give their

1478
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,760
guidelines on how to do the audio.

1479
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:30,760
See that.

1480
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:37,240
I mean, there's so many ways that I know people that are really motivated to do it.

1481
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,720
They will just do that thing.

1482
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,840
They will do the thing.

1483
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:47,160
But I think we might have some resources.

1484
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,000
Yeah, I need like an easy way to do something.

1485
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:51,240
Show me where to click the button.

1486
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:52,240
I'll do it.

1487
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:56,080
But if I actually take extra steps, sometimes it depends.

1488
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:57,080
We're all busy.

1489
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:58,080
Yeah.

1490
01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:59,080
Yeah.

1491
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:00,080
And I totally get that.

1492
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:04,880
So I'm like, I can appreciate when there's like a shorthand for things.

1493
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:05,880
Yeah.

1494
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,040
So yeah, we'll have to take a look at that and see if we can figure out some ways to like

1495
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,520
make that a little bit easier for people.

1496
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:23,680
And maybe even for some people that don't feel like they're the most savvy in that arena.

1497
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,520
My self included.

1498
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,320
Yeah.

1499
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,320
That was fun.

1500
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:30,320
Yeah.

1501
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:31,320
Yeah.

1502
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,520
Hearing somebody else actually tell the story.

1503
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:40,400
I try to put myself in that person's shoes when we're reading somebody else's story.

1504
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:46,400
But to hear their voice telling it is clearly creates more of an emotional response from

1505
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:47,400
you.

1506
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:48,400
Yeah.

1507
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:49,400
Yeah.

1508
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:50,400
Physical even.

1509
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:51,400
It is.

1510
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:52,400
It's hard to argue with that.

1511
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:53,400
Yeah.

1512
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:54,400
Yeah.

1513
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:55,400
All right.

1514
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:56,400
Well, should we go?

1515
01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:00,400
It's pretty late at night here.

1516
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:06,400
I mean, you can't tell because you have no idea what time of day it is now anymore.

1517
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:14,840
You've blocked out the light, which don't do that in general, but like unless you need a

1518
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:21,400
room with controlled light and sound, that's just how we're living.

1519
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,400
That's how the curtain closes.

1520
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:24,400
Yeah.

1521
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:29,200
And could this.

1522
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:30,400
Should we do our thing?

1523
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,400
Let's do our thing.

1524
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:33,400
Okay.

1525
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,400
Have a creepy ass day.

1526
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,400
We'll see you next Tuesday.

1527
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,400
But like feel free to write us in between now.

1528
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:42,400
Yeah.

1529
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:50,640
Let us know what you're up to, what you're doing, how your day is going, what you had for lunch.

1530
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:58,360
If it was really interesting or spooky, if you got like a paranormal message from your

1531
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,400
tuna, you know, in the sandwich.

1532
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,400
I want a tuna paranormal message.

1533
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,400
Tuna paranormal on a five.

1534
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:11,400
A listen, you asked them, what did they have for lunch?

1535
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:18,600
Well, everyone stay away from, I don't want to see stay away from shadow people because what

1536
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,000
if they're not evil?

1537
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,000
Listen, just stay safe.

1538
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,000
Yeah.

1539
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:24,000
How about please stay safe.

1540
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,000
Do it feels right.

1541
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:30,800
If you're not safe and something happens, please let us know immediately.

1542
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,800
Especially from the afterlife.

1543
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,800
Well, don't die.

1544
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:35,800
Please.

1545
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:41,800
Listen, if they already died, like the least you could do is contact us.

1546
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:48,040
Oh, and we haven't said it in a long time, but this is also proof that these stories don't

1547
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:49,760
need to be from the Pacific Northwest.

1548
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,800
They could be from Tennessee or Canada.

1549
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,800
Well, I don't know what part of Canadian Clint is in.

1550
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:02,800
Oh, I mean also, visit Canada.

1551
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,800
Our friend from Canada.

1552
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:05,800
Yeah.

1553
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,380
(laughing)