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Are you ready to be spellbound by tales of the paranormal, sprinkled with Texas-sized fun and adventure? Pack your bags as we take you on a haunting journey to the heart of Austin, Texas. We enjoyed an unforgettable experience at the True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival where we rubbed shoulders with fellow podcasters! We also explored the city, savoring mouthwatering local cuisine, and marveled at the Wonderspaces Museum and The Museum of the Weird.
Prepare yourself for the spine-chilling tales of the infamous Driskill Hotel and its haunting legacy. We have unearthed stories of ghostly encounters, shared by the guests staying at the hotel. From a playful phantom child to TWO heartbroken spectral brides, these tales will surely keep you on the edge of your seat. And let's not forget the spirit of Colonel Jesse Driskill himself, leaving behind traces of phantom cigar smoke. Even styling legendary singer, Annie Lennox, and inspiring the rather charming song “Ghost of a Texas Ladies' Man!”
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Unfortunately, we didn't get a chance to explore this place on that trip. I think we drove past it, though I vaguely remember being like oh, what the fuck is that cool building? And the answer to that question would have been the Driskill Hotel. Hi Caitlyn.
Speaker 2:Hi, cassie Hi creepy people.
Speaker 1:Hello, If you are new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where we chat about true crime, paranormal and all things creepy in the Pacific Northwest. most times.
Speaker 2:Mostly. We also do a tarot reading at the end for deeper insight into our topic for the episode. So make sure to stick around if you're into that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:If you like that and if you don't like it, you can just listen to us be weird. Yeah that's fun too. That also happens, as most of you probably know. We just went to Austin, Texas.
Speaker 2:We did what was it for Caitlyn For True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival.
Speaker 1:It's a mouthful, but you did it. I think, it was amazing when you agree.
Speaker 2:Yes, it was also very moist, very moist. Yeah, sorry for anyone who's currently cringing Moist, very humid there.
Speaker 1:Yes, it is.
Speaker 2:I don't know how a place manages to be the same temperature as the surface of the sun but also still just fucking damp everywhere. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know, it is a natural phenomenon, it really is.
Speaker 2:I think it's a paranormal phenomenon?
Speaker 1:It might be. Yeah, apparently, texas is pretty damn haunted.
Speaker 2:I believe that. Did you know that our last day of that trip it was the hottest that it had been on that date of the year since 1902?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think I heard.
Speaker 2:I think we both heard that and we've parroted it back.
Speaker 1:I heard from the guy at the pool that we met. Hi, if you're listening. Oh, by the way, you said, guy at the pool, that you were going to listen. Yeah, so you better be listening, better be, we know where to find you. Yeah, I don't remember your name. I was like I'm going to remember your name. Yeah, shout you out and I forgot.
Speaker 2:I'm so sorry. Listen, it was really hot, we had some drinks, we were in a pool. We were pretty sure that we thought we would remember.
Speaker 1:And here we are we remembered the fun fact about the weather.
Speaker 2:We're telling everyone that.
Speaker 1:Well, we did a bunch of cool things there, including meeting so many of our pod friends. Oh my gosh, it was amazing. It was. I say it so many times, but seeing people in real life that you've only seen in a computer screen is just surreal.
Speaker 2:It really is. I'm trying to think of how do you even abbreviate. It's really quick. We met so and so and so and so, and the list just keeps fucking going. It was really nice to meet Lainey in person.
Speaker 1:She's the organizer.
Speaker 2:one of the organizers of the event. She's amazing. We met Josh from True Crime Bullshit. We met our BF halfs from a nefarious nightmare.
Speaker 1:Yes, that was so funny. When they walked up I don't know if anyone else saw my face, but it was like oh my gourd, I know you, I know them, I know them. Yeah, who else did we meet navigating advocacy? We had a really good mini tarot reading with them, very emotional.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know some people were pretty excited that we also met Bob Mada from Defense Diaries. We met him. For sure it did come up, that did come up. Let's see who else. Oh, of course I'm forgetting the two people that we met first, really Nina from Already Gone and Justin from Generation Why.
Speaker 1:Yes, they were on the panel with us. They were on the panel with us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were on it with us, not us on it with them. Get it straight, just kidding. We really appreciate them carrying us through.
Speaker 1:Yes, well, there are so many people that we met. It's crazy, but we'll just go ahead and just add the whole list to the show notes of everyone that we met, we met. It's like the thank you speeches. I mean, you just forget to thank everyone. I know Seriously, we met so many cool people, so the festival was cool by far the coolest but we did do some other pretty cool things.
Speaker 2:We went to the Wonderspaces Museum, the fucking coolest thing that I've done in a long time so cool.
Speaker 1:You guys have seen by now videos and pictures, reels and TikToks and pictures and all of it. Shout out to the bartenders that we met there. Oh my God, they were amazing. They were so sweet. We ended up giving them mini tarot reads and they loved it so hey, what's up, hey, what's up.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think we had some of the best food that we've ever had in Texas.
Speaker 2:I think so too. I know that when we ate at the barbecue place, we, I think, each not collectively, because we had to come to our own realization individually, but we had to push ourselves away from the table like I'm going to die if I stay here. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I could have easily just died happy in that place.
Speaker 2:Seriously, I wish that, along with the other goodies that we're packing up for some of the Patreon with their little cards and some of you guys were sending out tarot readings and stuff I wish that we could somehow magic some of that barbecue to you guys, because help is so fucking good, the sauce just bathed me in that I don't even know what it was.
Speaker 1:It was amazing, I know.
Speaker 2:And what I really want to know is why the fuck have I never had corn casserole before? Why is that not a thing here?
Speaker 1:Corn casserole.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, bury me with it.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, we're going to have to go back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, obviously, and I need to find a good corn casserole recipe. So if anybody has one, please send it.
Speaker 1:Are you from Texas? Let us know about your corn casserole. Yeah, absolutely. We also couldn't leave the state without doing something creepy. It's true, we sure did so. We visited the Museum of the Weird. I'm pretty sure it's the official name. I kept calling it Museum of Weird, but I think there's a thun there. Okay.
Speaker 2:I mean it's as advertised, I feel.
Speaker 1:It's very weird. So, as you can imagine, the Museum of Weird was packed, jam-packed full of weird shit everywhere Little mummy dudes, head things, bats, head things, I don't know. There was like little shrunken heads. There were just like heads everywhere there were. They have a Texas Bigfoot, which I need to read that sign in detail, but that was pretty funny. Yeah, specifically a Texas Bigfoot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because they're different. They're, I assume, bigger.
Speaker 1:I don't know, we got to read the sign. Yeah, they have like alien things. They also had a wax museum. They had what was it? The man in the ice, the Ice man.
Speaker 2:They had a literal freezer with a hairy man in a block of ice See, listen, usually when someone ends up in a freezer. That's kind of more my genre.
Speaker 1:I think yeah.
Speaker 2:And I was deeply uncomfortable. Yeah, I didn't like it.
Speaker 1:I was scared they found them like that. I mean not in the freezer, I assume, but in the ice. In the ice, yeah, just to clarify. Well, obviously we got a ton of information about some places in Texas with some paranormal activity, what yeah, caitlyn knows, she took the photos for me, I know, but I tried so hard not to read them.
Speaker 2:I was like looking at the signs and zooming in and like trying to make sure all of the text was focused so that you'd be able to find this stuff later, but it was perfect. I was really trying hard not to read it, though. Yeah, do you have any idea how hard it is for someone to like focus in on text and not read it?
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, the one I chose has a shit ton of information. It was like the biggest sign and there was a lot of stuff on there. So, oh boy, we're going to talk about that.
Speaker 2:What is it?
Speaker 1:I don't know what's in the box? Did you guys like my? What's in the box? What's?
Speaker 2:in the box.
Speaker 1:So since Austin is Portland's unofficial sister city, you know, keep us both weird and all I figured it wasn't even too much of a stretch to cover one of those places today. No, and it also happens to be on 6th Street, which is where the Museum of Weird is.
Speaker 2:Wait, it's actually on the same street as the museum. Wait what? Yes, shut the front door.
Speaker 1:Yeah, did we go there? No, but we're going to talk about it. We might go next time we go, but let me tell you this whole story and then we can decide. Oh boy, unfortunately we didn't get a chance to explore this place on that trip. I think we drove past it, though I vaguely remember being like, oh, like what the fuck is that cool building? And the answer to that question would have been the Driscoll Hotel. Oh, do you? Okay, so look it up, okay.
Speaker 2:Oh, we totally did.
Speaker 1:We were totally like right there but we were just like, oh, looking at, like, oh, what's this, oh, what's this, oh, what's this. So it kind of just like faded into the back of my mind until I saw a picture of it. Oh shit, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. So it really stands out. It really really does.
Speaker 2:We will post pictures, oh she pretty, but this is just a really great shot of it and there's a really cute little vintage car in front of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is from the hotel's like actual website.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh my God. I keep saying oh my God but it's spooky season.
Speaker 1:Yeah, say it all spooky season.
Speaker 2:We don't care.
Speaker 1:The hotel started being built on Merica day, the fourth of July, if you didn't know, in 1885. It held its grand opening the next year on December 20th 1886. And it looks like it's from the 1800s. It really does.
Speaker 2:Although it wouldn't have surprised me if you said it was even older than that. Yeah, Like if you said it was like 1786, I probably would have been like okay.
Speaker 1:The hotel is still open and operational as a hotel to this day, which I feel like is kind of rare.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm literally looking at their booking website right now. I'm going to go see what availability they have. I feel like it's slightly on the Spendy side. Yeah, kind of. She kind of looks like she's a, she's a hard dollar, yes, whole table.
Speaker 1:I mean for a 137 year old, she's charging a lot. Yeah, she definitely has had some renovations but still has a very vintage feel. Yeah, it's an extremely fancy pants place. They have afternoon tea.
Speaker 2:If that tells you anything?
Speaker 1:Stop it. So if we ever go there, I'm gonna feel extremely uncomfortable, unless I just like pretend that I'm that fancy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just pretend to be fancy. Cassie, this literally looks like the inside of the Titanic. Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1:Yeah, very like regal vibes. She a bougie bitch. Mm-hmm, yeah you. So it takes up a whole block and when it opened, it was said to be quote one of the finest hotels in the whole country. Ooh, the entire cost of the hotel was estimated to be $400,000. That's it In 1886, money, okay, but still Today it's $13,8127.66. That's like the value of it. Yeah, holy shit, that's the translation of the money. I don't know what the hotel, how much it would cost. Yeah, I don't know what the hotel is worth, probably maybe a lot more than that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would think, so let's buy it. Yes, you guys, we're starting a fundraiser.
Speaker 1:Join our Patreon. Yes, we will have $100 a month tier and it's gonna be called Buying the Driscoll. I like that. You can be in on it. We'll let you stay for free.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that'd be so cool.
Speaker 1:So who the flipping heck has that much flipping lettuce? Well, that would be. Are you ready for this?
Speaker 2:Probably not, but let's do it.
Speaker 1:Colonel Jesse Driscoll Colonel. Originally from Tennessee, he ended up as a Texas cattle baron, which I was like is that just fancy talk for a cowboy? No, but it's not. It's not no. So I had to look it up. They're sometimes called cow men. A cattle baron owned multiple ranches, so he's kind of like a cow CEO. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like just casually having all of the cows.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, that was him, colonel Jesse Driscoll. Jesse Driscoll Sorry for the really bad Southern accent that's going to slip out in this episode.
Speaker 2:I don't know Sounded about right to me.
Speaker 1:Colonel Driscoll always managed to find immense fortune, but it never lasted. Oh, financial ruin befell him thrice before arriving in Austin. Yikes Getting intense. Yeah, a little bit. The first time was because the Confederate army said where's the beef? And Colonel Driscoll was like it's here, I have some, it's right here. So now we know a little more about Mr Jesse. Here he sold beef to the Confederates.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:And I feel like everything that follows feels like slightly cursey to me. Oh, so you can be the judge. Oh boy, I totally learned something new that I was probably told in school but didn't retain, and I always assume Caitlyn knows everything.
Speaker 2:Listen, that's a lot of pressure you might know this though.
Speaker 1:Okay, but just in case anyone else didn't know, the Confederacy had its own money.
Speaker 2:Oh, I think I did know that I had no idea, I mean, it makes sense. They were like yeah, we're not really wanting to hang out with you guys, so like we're going to make our own stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So all those sweet dolla dolla bills that our friend Colonel JD made selling his meat to the Confederacy turned out to be completely worthless after the war. I don't want to laugh, but hopefully he wrapped up that meat real good. But they did give him one thing at least an honorary title of Colonel. Oh. So that's why I'm kind of not being super respectful, because he's not even a real Colonel.
Speaker 2:Also like okay. So first of all, it's honorary, and it's honorary by an army that no longer exists. Yeah, and that was I think, and I'm going to go out on a limb here. Maybe this is a wild stance to have, but like the one that was on the wrong side of history also.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a little bit, well, well, so I don't know. All of the articles and things refer to him as Colonel, so I just I rolled with it, assuming that he kept the title. Okay, so fast forward. He rebuilt his bank account back up another two times, finally deciding he wanted to quote build the grandest hotel in the South. And that is a quote from the sign at the museum. Oh, all righty, yes, I did take a lot of my info from that sign.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean there was a lot of really good information there.
Speaker 1:So remember how I said I would feel a little out of place at the Fancy Pants Hotel. Mm-hmm, as it turns out, most people in the area at the time felt kind of the same way. Oh no, the town of Austin became the state capital in 1872, 14 years before the Driscoll opened, but it still apparently had that wild west feel at that point. Needless to say, the hotel was far too expensive for anyone in town to stay at, and I don't think anyone really had a reason to travel there yet, since it wasn't developed. They didn't even have a capital building yet. That makes sense, okay. He was just slightly ahead of his time with this one, I think, and it didn't help matters that a lot of his staff was apparently poached by another hotel.
Speaker 2:Oh no.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is like me.
Speaker 2:Well maybe they should have made it the capital building.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe they should, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Like how big does your capital building need to be?
Speaker 1:It's interesting. You say that I'm not going to get into it right away, but we'll talk about it in a minute. Yeah, so a couple of months after it opened, the Driscoll closed. Oh, no, temporarily. Oh, okay, obviously, because I said it was still open.
Speaker 2:I was like it's still open. I can't keep up.
Speaker 1:In 1888, the hotel reopened with Driscoll's brother-in-law as the new owner. In the same year, the Colonel lost 3,000 of his cattle, taking with them the rest of his money Shite. So he lost his fortune the fourth time.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I thought it was thrice.
Speaker 1:It was thrice before Austin, god damn, yeah, okay, wow, in one last effort to regain his wealth, jesse, jesse, jesse, he bet the only thing he thought he had left in a poker game his name sake hotel. But luck was a fickle mistress for .
Speaker 2:Oh no, he lost. Yeah, I guess that mistress knew that you were never leaving your wife.
Speaker 1:Yeah, god damn. So he lost the extremely high stakes game of poker and later that same year, he lost his life from a stroke. Wow, I honestly have no idea if he even was able to bet the hotel, because it sounds like his brother-in-law owned it.
Speaker 2:Oh my, okay. So I thought he, I thought he lost it in a poker game to his brother-in-law.
Speaker 1:That's kind of what I thought too, but like reading through all of the timelines and things, it sounds like his brother-in-law had it in 1888.
Speaker 2:What a dick. It sounds like betting a hotel that isn't in his kids. Like two years after yeah, in 1890.
Speaker 1:Jesus, so I mean, get it together, jesse. So I was kind of thinking maybe his death wasn't so natural if he owed someone a $13 million hotel. Oh shit, there's nothing saying that. There's nothing pointing any fingers to anyone else. They say it's a stroke, but I don't know. I like a little conspiracy theory in my story. The Driscoll went on to flourish and President Lyndon B Johnson I know, I know it's not FDR, but you know we'll take what we can get LBJ. So LBJ and his future wife, lady Bird, had their first date there. Oh my God, I wish. Isn't it so cute too. We were looking at where to watch all of the bats fly out from under the bridge, and the bridge that it's on is Lady Bird Lake, I know.
Speaker 2:Wait, the bridge that it's on is Lady Bird Lake.
Speaker 1:The lake that the bridge goes over is Lady Bird Lake.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can talk. I was like, oh man, she's going to feel like when she listens to that later she's going to be like what the fuck, Cassie, Were you?
Speaker 1:stoned again. You bitch Probably yeah, and later he would also await two presidential election results in the Jim Hogg suite at the hotel.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:I guess it's like a Jim Hogg of the suite.
Speaker 2:I don't know who Jim Hogg is, but I feel like should we look him up, because I'm like oh, we can I mean we will? Oh, he was a governor of Texas.
Speaker 1:Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, it was the fancy pants room. Yeah.
Speaker 2:He was an American lawyer and statesman and also a governor from Texas.
Speaker 1:Well, enough with the history, I think Did you forget.
Speaker 2:I want to do a history podcast.
Speaker 1:We're a ghost podcast, so halfway through the episode let's get to the ghosts. Okay, it's just so much fun to talk about history. Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 2:I mean, it sets you up Definitely.
Speaker 1:You got to know all this stuff. We'll start small. Literally, people report hearing a child's laughter God damn it. Little phantom, little handies on them. That reminds me of the time I talked about something, touched me and I thought it was a kid, like I feel like you just know. And people even see a little girl running around and playing with a ball, like of course she was playing with a ball. They're all playing with a goddamn ball. These reports are mostly from one area around the hotel the grand staircase. Oh God, I know there's a reason for it, yeah.
Speaker 2:I can see the writing on the wall yeah, as it were.
Speaker 1:Eek, they say. This little girl that people see here and feel is the spirit of a senator's daughter who tragically passed away on the staircase chasing her ball. Oh, I know. One of the sources claimed this happened during a special function at the hotel in 1887. And according to the hotel's website timeline, there was an inaugural ball in January of 1887. Oh shit, wow, it's kind of possible that it's true. Wow.
Speaker 2:Hey man, your party sucks, I know.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's just. It's so sad, that's terrible. What comes after the creepy kid ghost? Any guesses? No, there's a lot of possibility.
Speaker 2:I don't want to give you ideas.
Speaker 1:People have seen a fully decked out, ghostly bride in the windows above 6th Street.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I was literally just thinking because you've lied to me before about haunted places and it had to do with my engagement and like I was okay with that after a time. But now I'm mad at you again.
Speaker 1:I semi-lied to you about Silver Falls being haunted. We learned a few things. The story is that she was rejected in some way by her groom and she took her own life in one of the rooms. Oh, no way. Girl he's not worth it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's not worth it.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's so sad I know back then like women really needed that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's so sad.
Speaker 2:Your husband was your livelihood in a way that just doesn't really translate to the modern definition of marriage.
Speaker 1:I definitely don't get it. I wish it wasn't that way in those times. I like to think we're in better times now and people will just be like, well, fuck you, I can find better. Yeah, because you can. If you're listening, you can.
Speaker 2:Yeah, literally I could have another one of you in a minute, so Love you, babe.
Speaker 1:To the left to the left. Thank you next. Yes, okay, there is a story of some guests who were on a late night shenanigan in an area of the hotel that was closed due to renovations.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, so definitely fuck around and find out about that.
Speaker 1:I mean, I feel like that's not something we would ever do.
Speaker 2:I mean no, we wouldn't.
Speaker 1:We would never shenanigan late at night in a closed area.
Speaker 2:Late is one thing, when it's under construction.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess you know the safety hazards. Yeah, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. Especially, I was just watching that show. I was telling you about light as a feather. There's a construction zone mishap.
Speaker 2:That's not really a spoiler, but yeah, I just picture that whenever I have to go out to a job site and I'm just there to record a meeting, like freak accidents are just my biggest fear.
Speaker 1:That's why I'm not a huge risk taker.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, did you? I mean the stuff that I have seen on construction sites. I'm like, oh, what you guys doing, oh, oh, you're just drilling down into the earth, okay, Just below my feet.
Speaker 1:That's a big hole.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 1:So don't do this everybody. I wrote after that super safe.
Speaker 2:Super safe.
Speaker 1:But they apparently weren't the only ones there. They saw another woman, her arms full of shopping bags, heading down the hall. She stopped in front of her room for a bit before the women asked if she minds the construction and she responds to them that she doesn't mind. Oh, what? She's just a person, is she? Is she For whatever reason? They will suddenly feel really uneasy and get the fuck out of there. Yeah, and the staff confirmed that no one was staying up there. There's not even a toilet in that room. What was that? Ghosts Was that the smoke alarm? Fuck was that.
Speaker 2:Oh God, okay, we're being haunted. Leave it on.
Speaker 1:Leave it on. Oh, okay, we're leaving it on.
Speaker 2:What the fuck? I seriously stepped out of the room and almost immediately broke my ankle. Oh no, yeah, I stepped over. I assume my own foot. It just like.
Speaker 1:Are you sure it was your own foot? Sorry, so sorry, all right. Well, that's the end of the podcast. I have to move.
Speaker 2:I'm changing my name, I'm leaving the country. This shit happens all the time when we're recording.
Speaker 1:I feel like that smoke detector goes off.
Speaker 2:It doesn't. It's happened in a long time, though.
Speaker 1:I know I feel like it's reminding us oh my God.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I kind of fucked up my ankle. Oh no Do you need to ice it? No, I think it'll be okay. I also missed a spot shaving. There's just shits going wrong left and right.
Speaker 1:So before the beeper rudely interrupted us, there's not even a toilet up in that room, so clearly no one was staying up there. That's really weird.
Speaker 2:Although I, too have stayed in a place that did not have a toilet. That's true. That is true, it wasn't a hotel though right. No, it was this apartment and we had to go and use the apartment downstairs Glamorous.
Speaker 1:Well, legend has it that another rejected bride is in the building.
Speaker 2:Why are there so many rejected brides?
Speaker 1:That's why I'm like maybe you shouldn't go there.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I'm so pissed at right now.
Speaker 1:This one went on a shopping spree with the would be groom's plastic. Oh well, which like get it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, as one does.
Speaker 1:And this was like in the 80s or 90s, like late 80s or 90s. There wasn't an exact date, but it was more recent than the other one.
Speaker 2:Okay, so we've got like an old timey and a slightly more modern, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:But I guess she learned that the cliches cliches is true. Money cannot in fact purchase the happiness. Oh no, I mean, I don't know. I'm willing to test it out, like, if anyone wants to, you know, give me the money part, I can tell you how it goes.
Speaker 2:I just want to try for science, for science, yeah, you know, I'm a scientist at heart.
Speaker 1:But this poor almost bride, just like the last, was to overcome with heartache and took her own life in one of the rooms at the Driscoll.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:So I don't know if maybe she was there and she was sad and maybe she was feeling the other, the first bride, like feeling her sadness still there and like maybe it like attached to her, and I hate to think that though. I hate to think that also, Maybe the other chick wanted like another scorned bestie, you know. So they can like spill the tea together.
Speaker 2:I mean like I get it.
Speaker 1:At tea time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh my God, I fucking tea time. I want, I want that.
Speaker 1:We can have our own tea time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like we needed some tea today. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Okay, anyway, okay, there is one more soul who never left the hotel. God damn it. I'm not just talking about the life-size portrait in the lobby or the literal sculptures of his head on the roof. The one the only, colonel, jesse Driscoll. Oh my God, did you see the roof? You have to go back and look at the roof.
Speaker 2:Oh God, there's a fucking head that's broken. I don't want to so funny. Oh my God, why Do you see Ew, I hate that. I hate that. Ew, I hate that. Why is this head on the top of the build? That's so fucking creepy yeah.
Speaker 1:I say on the roof, it's kind of like on a peak.
Speaker 2:I don't know what that's called, but I mean it's on the roof, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's not just like thrown up onto the roof, but it's like what in the back. It's on a pointed like peak, oh no. Oh, there's the portrait. Oh, do you find the portrait? It's life-size. I think I said that.
Speaker 2:I feel like that's bigger than life-size.
Speaker 1:Maybe, maybe he, just, you know, got his dimensions mixed up.
Speaker 2:Such a man thing to do,
Speaker 1:So he makes himself known most often by the scent of cigar smoke, which I know you will just love. It was rare to see him without a cigar in his life, so make sense for that to be true in his afterlife as well. Live your best afterlife, bro. Oh shit, the property is non-smoking now, of course, but one night a security guard tried to find the source of the cigar smoke. He smelled and then heard a voice out of nowhere asking him for matches. He couldn't find anyone around or any explanation for the smell, but especially the voice.
Speaker 2:I was going to say he's like looking around for like who's smoking a cigar. My first thought was fucking narc. I don't like the smell of cigar smoke and. I still was like fuck that guy.
Speaker 1:It's kind of his job security guard.
Speaker 2:Well, I take that back In my head. I was thinking a cigar is not threatening security but like, I guess, if you accidentally start a fire.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess. So it is a pretty old building, smoky the bear. But that security guard, he quit after that. He was so scared that he could not find the source of this voice, because someone talked to him and he just like couldn't. He couldn't find out who it was.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's creepy. He was like no, he's like, you know what? No, I'm out.
Speaker 1:Hard to guess I am a security guard shaped hole in the wall.
Speaker 2:Which is not that different from a Caitlyn shaped hole in the wall, maybe taller, taller, and then also he may have, like you know, the accessories Like he's got, like a taser.
Speaker 1:I just see him like throwing it, like throwing the taser, whatever he has his badge, and just like running out. Oh my God, a guest was staying in one of the colonels favorite rooms and woke up to a man in his room smoking a cigar. They both seemed confused when they caught each other's eye and once the light flipped on, the strange man vanished, leaving only a final puff of smoke.
Speaker 2:What I don't know, yeah.
Speaker 1:So he only saw him when it was dark, and then he flipped on the light and it was gone. But there was just smoke left, just a little evidence of, you know, the apparition that was.
Speaker 2:I really hate that. I don't like it when they like poof away.
Speaker 1:Driscoll left quite an impression on two famous rock and women. Oh, Annie Lennox.
Speaker 2:Do you know that? Oh shit, you know that is Okay.
Speaker 1:This is going to be important for you to know this. So Annie Lennox says that he chose an outfit for her while she was in the shower. Shut the fuck up. So there wasn't any other details. But I'm picturing she like got out of the shower, smelled this famous cigar smoke and like an outfit fell off the hanger or something you know, like he maybe had knocked one down. No, he like laid it on the bed. I know, See people, people say that, but there's no other information.
Speaker 2:Like she didn't elaborate?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm like I can't. I'm having a hard time picturing clothes laid out on a bed for her. Yeah, but maybe.
Speaker 2:But you guys, it's fine, listen, I'll just call her later and report back because, like we're totally on a first name basis, do you like how he said that? Deadpan? Yeah, I love that Just totally serious.
Speaker 1:Can you tell her hi for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:Love your work. Yeah, big fan.
Speaker 2:Super fan.
Speaker 1:Either way, I bet she wasn't having any sweet dreams that night. Oh See why I said it was going to be important. Okay, yeah. Lead singer of Concrete Wand, which, I'm sorry, I've never heard of them. I'm like an 80s rock chick band.
Speaker 2:I was going to say I feel like I've heard of them. I don't really know them.
Speaker 1:I haven't. I apologize, I know them now.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So the lead singer wrote a song about Colonel Jesse Driscoll called Ghost of a Texas Ladies man, and you have to play it right now it's on Spotify. Okay, oh boy, she gives me bro carde vibes and I definitely sent the link to.
Speaker 2:Disturbingly.
Speaker 1:Primatic and I was like is this not fucking bro carde?
Speaker 2:Shut the fuck up. Okay, hold on. I got to turn on my volume.
Speaker 1:I didn't think it was the second one. You don't scare me. You don't scare me.
Speaker 2:I said I'm actually a ghost because I died. I'm dead. It's so good. Yes, good is definitely the word I was going to use.
Speaker 1:We are adding it to the next playlist. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:For sure, okay, great, you're going to make a playlist, the playlist that I haven't done anything to do with ever. I was like I'm going to make a playlist.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I'm so excited, cassie, you're going to make a playlist.
Speaker 2:I can't. Yeah, you have to now. What should it be about?
Speaker 1:Idiot the theme ghost songs.
Speaker 2:Ghosty, that's perfect, because it's almost you know the spooky, spooky, spooky spooky seasons.
Speaker 1:So yeah, okay, it's almost that time. Get ready for it, patreon, it's coming.
Speaker 2:Yeah, start, I'm going to, I'm looking at my watch and I'm tapping my wrist like let's do this.
Speaker 1:Let's go. Well, see, we ended on a very good note very light, very fun, very happy. We'll see you in a second.
Speaker 2:I'm not happy because she said that her towel was on the floor and I'm like are you for real? You're a filthy fucking barman. I know that's not where I left it. Why is it?
Speaker 1:even on the floor in the first place. Maybe she said it was on the floor and she didn't leave. She left it on a hanger and she's like why is it on the floor? I feel like she needs to really clarify, because I'm judging her. That might go with my theory about the Annie Lennox outfit, where it just was on the floor.
Speaker 2:Oh evidence. He just throws shit on the floor. He's just like meh. So they think that maybe he's doing something nice and putting out an outfit for Annie Lennox, and he's actually just an asshole.
Speaker 1:He's just a man. He's throwing her shit on the floor. He's just a man. Yeah, ghost of a man there's always something on the floor. Yeah, I do it too. I'm just saying it's funnier when you make fun of men. It really is. I am Kenough.
Speaker 2:Okay, I am Kenough. I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, there's one last thing I want to say before we head to the tarot. There is a book, and it's by Monica Ballard and it's called True Haunted Tales of the Driscoll Hotel, and I was not able to get it in time for this episode, but I was thinking maybe, if there's any new information in there, we would do a little Patreon bonus. Ooh, yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2:Is that a good idea?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I will order it and then we'll let you guys know if there's any deets from from Mrs Ballard Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, okay. So can we address the elephant in the room, the big gray hat, which is obviously my fabulous hat that I literally bought for Austin Trip, thinking it'll keep the sun off my face, even though I don't wear hats? I never wear hats. Yeah, and Cassie, can you tell me exactly how many times that I wore this hat in Austin?
Speaker 1:And maybe once in the hotel room to show me how cute it looked.
Speaker 2:Yes, and then again at the airport when I slept in it Like like. So, patreon, it's perfect.
Speaker 1:They have massage chairs at the airport in Austin, so I like really wanted to just take a picture of you sleeping in the massage chair.
Speaker 2:I kind of assumed that you and/ Or chis did.
Speaker 1:I didn't. I was very tired too. I curled up in one of the little waiting chairs at the airport in Valsling, but then I had a whole row to myself on both flights and it was amazing. I don't know what I did to deserve that kind of luck, but I am so grateful for it. Yeah, that looked awesome for you, yeah, and I like it, teary-eyed thinking about it because it was so cool. You're the worst. Ok, driscoll Hotel. We're finally getting to it and it's this card right here, I can see it poking out and this is the one I want. Three of sticks, which is wands, upside down, reverse Remember how I always used to say upside down and you're like in the reverse.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not like you didn't know that that was the like terminology. You just would get excited and you'd be like upside down, Upside down. I thought it was quite charming. So three of wands. Our keywords are creativity and skill, self-expression, growth, competence and manifestation.
Speaker 1:I was thinking like, oh my gosh, the music that was made from it, you know, from the ghost story.
Speaker 2:OK, listen to this. Now is the time to show the world what you can do. You've worked hard to develop your talents and have confidence in your abilities. You feel passionately about what you do and believe you can inspire others. Express yourself, cassie. Mr Driscoll, uh-huh, but I started to read the first sentence of the upright interpretation. You've developed a project, business, creative endeavor or other venture, and now you're ready to share it with others.
Speaker 1:Oh, ok, definitely, Mr Driscoll.
Speaker 2:Got some of that energy in there. Ok, and there is an extra excerpt. I'm going to read that before I read the reverse. Hidden alliances work to move you into your authentic vocation as soon as you begin to commit to it.
Speaker 1:Hmm, I guess he just wasn't committed enough yeah maybe not.
Speaker 2:He was committed repeatedly.
Speaker 1:He was committed to the wrong things. Maybe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's kind of the message, right. Yeah, he would sort of rise to a certain level and then maybe more so than just like it not being the right opportunity. His vices, sort of you know, cause some challenges for him in his life. You still have work to do before you go public with your ideas.
Speaker 1:Holy shit he went public too soon. Ok, remember, I said it was too soon, bro.
Speaker 2:Ipo, that's a big deal. What's IPO? Initial public offering? It's like for stock, but that's just a hat rack. But today it is also a hat rack. Ooh, perhaps you could benefit from honing your skills. Some areas of an undertaking still need clarification, or you may need to win the support and blessing of others in order to advance. In a question about money, this card can mean the financial support you need isn't there at this time. I mean it was, but then it quickly, quickly went away. Yeah, so this next part you might have to work extra hard for a while to make ends meet. Be prudent in spending. He was not, yeah, sort of like his fatal flaw, I would argue, in a reading about work. The reverse three suggests you're not ready to market your project. Slash ideas. You feel passionately about what you're doing, but you still have to convince other people to get on board. For artistic people, this card advises don't give up your day job yet, which I will just say. I don't love that energy for us.
Speaker 1:Don't give up your day job of being a cattle baron to start running a hotel.
Speaker 2:I just immediately, directly, like internalize everything and I'm like, oh, it's also picking up energy from us.
Speaker 1:So that means wrong? No, this is Driscoll energy, for sure.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, you know, earlier I did ask you a very important question. You did, I did. I said listen, we have these same microphones as EM and Christine from and that's why we drink. So I have to assume it's just a matter of time before we reach that level of success.
Speaker 1:Yes, the microphone, like tomorrow, directly correlates with your success. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I think so In a reading about love. You may feel strongly about a partner but aren't ready to, aren't ready yet to make a commitment, or the other person may not be as emotionally invested as you are.
Speaker 1:Texas ladies man. Oh yeah, I guess he was. I don't, I cannot remember if I talked about it, but he made himself known to women, most often like in certain ways.
Speaker 2:Like in the haunting. Yes, Maybe not in real life, but I was thinking like what does that mean in old timey speak, you know? Made himself known to women mostly.
Speaker 1:I was trying to delicately say maybe he was a little gropey. Ew, not in person. Not in person, it's a ghost life.
Speaker 2:Either way, though, if you're gropey as a ghost like I, have to assume that was part of your MO in life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2:I don't want to make assumptions though, but Um, listen when it comes to creepy gropey men, I I'm going to make wild assumptions and I don't know. Just deal with it.
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