Lithia Park: Specters & Shakespeare

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,600 At the playgrounds, parents often notice their children playing with someone unseen by 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:08,600 their adult eyes. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,320 I don't care for that. 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,600 You might like this one. 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:19,200 These kids will describe a new friend in funny clothes, which people think are like older 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,200 clothes. 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Oh, time yeah. 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:22,200 Okay. 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,800 Although this new friend doesn't talk, they say he's nice and has a toy train. 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:32,480 But the kids are often confused when they try to play with the toy he offers to share, 11 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:36,800 and he and the train disappear. 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,760 Hi, Caitlyn. 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:41,960 Hi, Cassie. 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,960 Hi, creepy people. 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:44,960 Hello. 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:51,240 If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW, Haunts and Homicides, where we 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:56,920 chat about true crime, paranormal and all things creepy in the Pacific Northwest. 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:57,920 Yes. 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,320 Or the PNW. 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,920 If you're nice. 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:09,000 We do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for a little bit of deeper insight 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,680 into our topic. 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,240 So make sure you stick around if you're into that. 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,560 I'll be here. 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:15,560 Uh, yeah. 26 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,200 I think Caitlyn will be here. 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,800 Uh, I live here. 28 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:19,800 So. 29 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:20,800 Yes. 30 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:21,800 And I'll be here. 31 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:22,800 It's a good time. 32 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:29,640 So I found this story that I'm about to tell you in a book that we got loaned to us. 33 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,640 Ooh. 34 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,800 By who loaned it to us, Caitlyn? 35 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,320 I can't remember. 36 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:37,560 From the owner of Curiosities. 37 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,560 Oh, that's right. 38 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:39,560 That's right. 39 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:40,560 Yeah. 40 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:46,600 They were so nice to loan us a book called Oregon's Ghosts and Monsters by Mike Helm. 41 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,600 Ooh. 42 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,600 Yeah. 43 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:53,800 It's such an old, cool looking book from 1983, which it looks older than that. 44 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:54,800 It does. 45 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,040 But it says it's from 1983. 46 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,520 I don't believe it. 47 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,840 I'm going to need to see some identification. 48 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,040 The book starts with a quote that I think is extremely fitting for what we do here and 49 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,440 specifically for this topic today. 50 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,440 All right. 51 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,280 Hit me with it. 52 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,000 You all might have heard this quote before. 53 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,000 I don't know. 54 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,680 "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio than are dreamt of in your philosophy." 55 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:21,680 Wow. 56 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,720 And that is from a little known Shakespeare play called Hamlet. 57 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,720 Oh. 58 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:27,720 Okay. 59 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,720 Just a couple of people have heard of it. 60 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:31,720 Yeah. 61 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,720 Yeah. 62 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,720 Hit us up if you are one of those people. 63 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,920 You know, they're not dime a dozen. 64 00:02:38,920 --> 00:02:39,920 Shakespeare. 65 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:40,920 Heard of him? 66 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:41,920 Yeah. 67 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:42,920 Okay. 68 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:48,640 We're going 285 miles south of Portland, right to the border of California. 69 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:49,640 Oh. 70 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:51,400 To Ashland, Oregon. 71 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,400 Oh. 72 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:53,600 Have you been there? 73 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:54,600 Yes. 74 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:55,600 I've never been there. 75 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:56,760 I've been there. 76 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:02,400 You know, I've actually been there and visited a case that we've talked about. 77 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,400 Oh, snap. 78 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:04,400 Yeah. 79 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:05,400 What was that? 80 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:06,400 I can't remember. 81 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,400 I know. 82 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,400 I was like, I'm going to wait and see if she remembers. 83 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,120 I don't remember at all. 84 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,120 Was it the train one? 85 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,120 It was. 86 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,120 Oh, my God. 87 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,640 I just pulled that out of my butthole. 88 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:18,640 Tunnel 13. 89 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:19,640 Wow. 90 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:20,640 Yeah. 91 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:21,640 Oh. 92 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:22,640 Oh. 93 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:24,960 Da. 94 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,600 I came across that while I was researching this. 95 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,320 Didn't you think about it? 96 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,320 I think about it. 97 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,320 Apparently my brain remembered. 98 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,480 Well, somewhere in the depths. 99 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:39,960 Well, we're going back in spirit, not in the physical yet, maybe someday. 100 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:40,960 Oh, very soon. 101 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,680 We're going to. 102 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:47,600 Well, we should specifically visit Lithia Park. 103 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,840 Okay. 104 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,400 Did you visit there? 105 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,280 I don't think so. 106 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,280 Okay. 107 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:54,600 It's a huge park. 108 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,240 And it's home to the Oregon Shakespeare Festival. 109 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,240 Ooh. 110 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:06,440 What started as a three-day festival in 1935 by founding director Angus Boomer has now been 111 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:12,040 extended to various performances in the theaters at the entrance of the park from March 112 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,520 through October. 113 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:14,520 Wow. 114 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:15,520 Yeah. 115 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,320 So it's a whole season I should experience. 116 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:23,160 I mean, I think you could argue that's definitely two full-ass seasons. 117 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,920 It's a long-ass festival, man. 118 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:25,920 Yeah. 119 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,520 Tickets are on sale now if you're interested. 120 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,360 Oh, ooh, ooh. 121 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:36,400 But if the barred ancient thing, you'll find much more beyond the park's entrance. 122 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,680 We have another crown jewel on our hands, people. 123 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:40,680 Wow. 124 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,120 You remember our last crown jewel? 125 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,120 Silver falls? 126 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,120 Ooh. 127 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,640 So I can be like that. 128 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:47,640 There's no April fools. 129 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:48,640 I promise. 130 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:53,160 Does anyone propose? 131 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:58,240 It's known as Ashland's crown jewel, which you'll see why. 132 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:06,080 With 93 acres of walking trails weaving through forest trees, lush lawns with a vast variety 133 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:13,320 of foliage, a rose garden, a Japanese garden, two duck ponds, a swimming reservoir, community 134 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:20,040 center, meeting hall, ice rink, tennis and pickleball courts, and many forms of wildlife. 135 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:27,320 And of course, the beautiful Butler-Perozzi fountain once made from Italian marble is now 136 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,000 a very accurate replica. 137 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:35,520 The marble was too soft for the elements, but portions of it were preserved and stored, 138 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:41,680 but they did do, I think butler was the person who made a replica of it. 139 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,800 I think of bronze or parts of it were of bronze. 140 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:45,800 Wow. 141 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,800 You can read more on it if you want. 142 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:48,800 Fancy. 143 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,680 Why wouldn't I want to read about a Butler-Perozzi? 144 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:53,680 It's gorgeous. 145 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:54,680 Yeah. 146 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:55,680 Do you want to look it up real quick? 147 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:56,680 I do. 148 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,840 It looks magical. 149 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:00,760 It does look magical. 150 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:06,200 It reminds me of a fountain that we saw in Europe. 151 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,200 It's Italian. 152 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,520 It was from an Italian. 153 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,360 It is Italian. 154 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,360 Italian sculptor? 155 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,000 I don't know what you would call someone who makes fountains. 156 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,000 Sculptor? 157 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,000 That's what I mean. 158 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,000 I mean, made of marble. 159 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Yeah. 160 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Let's go with that. 161 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,320 Mason. 162 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:26,560 The fountain, even though it was redone, it still takes a lot of upkeep and it does need 163 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,240 an expensive repairs and maintenance to this day. 164 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,640 I went ahead and made a donation on the show's behalf. 165 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,640 Oh. 166 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Yeah. 167 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:40,760 And if any of you wonderful creepy people like to join us in support of the Butler-Perozzi 168 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:46,560 fountain's upkeep, you will find a link to do so down in the show description. 169 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,040 I love that. 170 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,040 I know. 171 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,000 Once I saw a donate button, I was like, oh, we have to donate like obviously. 172 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,000 We're talking about it. 173 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,560 It's only right. 174 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:02,360 John McLaren designed the landscape and Lithia Park was officially opened July 4th, 175 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:03,360 1916. 176 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,000 Oh, I feel like a couple of things we've talked about like open July 4th. 177 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Yeah. 178 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,320 They like to open stuff on a holiday, I guess. 179 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,320 Yeah. 180 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Big party. 181 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,320 Why not? 182 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,320 Yeah. 183 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,320 You're already doing stuff. 184 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,320 Or are you? 185 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,320 I don't know. 186 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,320 I don't do anything. 187 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,320 I know. 188 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,320 I don't like for the July 4th. 189 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,640 That's fine. 190 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,920 So how did the park get its name? 191 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:34,000 The spring water in the Ashland area is rich with naturally occurring lithium oxide known 192 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,080 as Lithia. 193 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,080 Is that a good thing? 194 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,080 It is a good thing. 195 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,080 It's not like the batteries. 196 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,280 It's not like, it's not like, all right. 197 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,720 You saw where my brain was trying to connect some dots there. 198 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,320 Oh, I'm definitely Google this. 199 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,960 I was like, what is this like metal? 200 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:51,960 Like what? 201 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:52,960 I don't get it. 202 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,800 How are people not dying? 203 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,080 Yeah, it just like has different compounds or whatever. 204 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,080 I don't know. 205 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,080 Science. 206 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,080 You can Google it. 207 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,080 Science. 208 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,760 So they built drinking fountains for the public to access the Lithia water for its health 209 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:06,760 benefits. 210 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:12,520 Oh, the fountains still exist today, although people don't typically drink from them anymore due 211 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,680 to the boiled egg smell and flavor. 212 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:16,680 Oh. 213 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:22,920 It reminds me of like, well water, I think, is exactly what that smell and taste is. 214 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,840 I fully expected you to say like the lead. 215 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:27,840 Mm-mm-mm. 216 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:28,840 Okay. 217 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:29,840 Yeah, it's healthy. 218 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:30,840 It's safe for you to drink. 219 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:36,000 I didn't fully go into health benefits, but obviously like they use lithium for medicines 220 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,680 and all kinds of shit. 221 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:38,680 Okay. 222 00:08:38,680 --> 00:08:47,520 But you'll find more than just Bardolators or picturesque scenery, but if you go as well. 223 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:48,520 What? 224 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,080 Do you know what a Bardolator is? 225 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,640 I mean, I assume it has to do with the festival, like the Bard. 226 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,640 Yeah, I guess it's people who are like obsessed with Shakespeare. 227 00:08:58,640 --> 00:08:59,640 Okay. 228 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:00,640 So they're like- 229 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:01,640 They're called Bardolators? 230 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,880 Yeah, they're at the festival, like, year round. 231 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:04,880 Yeah. 232 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:05,880 Isn't that so funny? 233 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,120 I didn't, I totally like Googled that because I was like, what are Shakespeare people called? 234 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:15,360 It wasn't like in the story, but yeah, it was like, I have to know. 235 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,360 Yeah. 236 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:17,360 Bardolator. 237 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:24,080 So we'll start with a seemingly benign story from a trip advisor comment. 238 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,560 They say beautiful park haunted, question mark. 239 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:33,760 And this was experienced in 2017, September of 2017. 240 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:34,760 Okay. 241 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,400 They say, well, I took my two twin-age daughters here one night. 242 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:40,600 I love that twin-age. 243 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:41,600 Twin-age? 244 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,600 I like that. 245 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:47,040 They have been on a quest to visit haunted places in Oregon. 246 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,440 With the apart came up as one. 247 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:54,720 We entered the address in the GPS and it took us to the back side of the park. 248 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,640 It was dark, perfect for ghost hunting. 249 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:58,840 Oh, and murder. 250 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,840 And murder. 251 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,520 I don't know about that. 252 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,520 It's funny, you say that. 253 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:08,400 We scared ourselves silly, thinking we heard footsteps. 254 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,320 We didn't make it 20 feet from the car. 255 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,800 Oh my God. 256 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,120 The next morning we entered the address again to check it out in the daylight. 257 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,760 Good idea, daylight's fine. 258 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:20,760 Yeah. 259 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:21,760 This time. 260 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:22,760 Oh, okay. 261 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,000 It says this time God took us, but I think she meant GPS. 262 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 I must see. 263 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,000 Yeah. 264 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Yeah. 265 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Interesting. 266 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,000 It says God. 267 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,000 Okay. 268 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,920 This time GPS took us to the front side of the park. 269 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:42,480 No matter how we tried, we couldn't find the area the GPS took us to the night before. 270 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,120 The GPS or God or God. 271 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,720 Maybe God was trying to save you the second time. 272 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,040 Goodness. 273 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,800 It is gorgeous park with an interesting history. 274 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,600 I'm not one to believe in paranormal activity, but this one left me scratching my head. 275 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,160 It was fun though. 276 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,920 And we will be back. 277 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:02,920 That is weird. 278 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,880 I have had that happen to me. 279 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,040 I don't know if I talked about it. 280 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:12,400 I think I told you when I went to jury duty, I'd been to the parking lot or the parking garage. 281 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,600 I've had jury duty. 282 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:15,600 Okay. 283 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,840 I could not find this fucking parking garage for the life of me. 284 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:19,840 I had the GPS. 285 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,240 I had the map. 286 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,920 I don't know why, but something was keeping me from the courthouse that day, and I'm just going 287 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:25,920 to trust it. 288 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:26,920 It was God. 289 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:27,920 It's yeah. 290 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:38,720 GPS or God, you know, just depends how, you know, how tight is your keyboard technique. 291 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,880 GPS is God. 292 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:47,920 In the early 60s, actor Charles Laughton had big dreams of one day playing King Lear. 293 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:53,800 His dreams finally came true, and he got the part in an Oregon Shakespeare Festival performance. 294 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:59,160 But he unfortunately passed away before he got the chance to thrive in this once in a lifetime 295 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,160 role. 296 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,160 What? 297 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,160 Yeah. 298 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,160 It's really sad. 299 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,160 Oh. 300 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:09,880 Now whenever King Lear is put on, phantom footsteps are heard backstage. 301 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,720 And while the cast rehearses, the shadow of what is believed to be Charles sits in the 302 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,160 audience to watch. 303 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,160 Oh. 304 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,960 No doubt ruthlessly critiquing the performance from the beyond. 305 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:21,960 Oh. 306 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,720 I really don't know. 307 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,920 I just assumed because he was like, I would have done it this way, you know? 308 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:27,920 Right. 309 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:28,920 Yeah. 310 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:29,920 I mean, that's probably fair. 311 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,440 But I'm sure he also just enjoys the show. 312 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,560 I hope so. 313 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:39,720 There is a comment on roguefreepress.com from a main name Glen. 314 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:46,040 He says, I had a fellow who was working at the Oregon Shakespeare Festival box office. 315 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,680 Tell me some more stories about the Elizabethan theater being haunted. 316 00:12:50,680 --> 00:12:54,800 And that's one of the theaters at the entrance of the park for the festival. 317 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,800 Oh. 318 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,320 He used to work as the Night Watchman, the Night Man. 319 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,320 The Night Man. 320 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,320 The Night Man. 321 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,200 And when I kept saying Night Man instead of Night Watch. 322 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,800 What episode was that? 323 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:07,800 God, I don't know. 324 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,640 I think it was the Dead Man's Island Dead Man Island. (It was the Island of Dead Men) 325 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:12,640 Oh, maybe. 326 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:13,640 Dead Man Island? 327 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:14,640 I don't know. 328 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,640 One of those. 329 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:16,640 Charlie Day. 330 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,640 A live and will. 331 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:23,560 And he told me that Mr. and Mrs. Bowmer both haunt it. 332 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:27,320 He said that Mr. Bowmer is quite friendly. 333 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,840 Though Mrs. Bowmer was a bit of a scold. 334 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,680 Oh. 335 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:38,640 He also told me that sometimes he could hear children's laughter at night in the theater. 336 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,920 Oh, interesting. 337 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:44,120 You know how I feel about children and their laughter? 338 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,120 Yeah. 339 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,440 It could be a couple of different things. 340 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,000 Uh, yeah, we'll get into it. 341 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,800 That's the end of that comment. 342 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,000 Oh, T. 343 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:58,000 People say the park has a very discomforting vibe. 344 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,800 More so at night. 345 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,800 My footsteps are heard. 346 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,400 Shadowy figures have been seen darting around in the feeling of being watched. 347 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,240 Follows you around. 348 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,240 No, thank you. 349 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:18,520 Well, investigating the park in EVP of an inaudible woman and a man saying, hi, I guess 350 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,520 he wouldn't say hi. 351 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:20,520 You'd probably say hi. 352 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,320 Listen, he can say hi. 353 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,120 However, he wants. 354 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,200 Hey, hey, hey girl. 355 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:35,040 Some YouTube ghost hunters caught that and they have a channel called JL solo TV if you 356 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,440 want to check that out. 357 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:37,440 Alrighty. 358 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:43,760 There have been reports of a light touch being felt on people's arms when no one is there. 359 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,840 I hate that. 360 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:52,360 Sometimes when people get home and look at the photos they've taken of the park, they'll 361 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,960 find that they've caught orbs. 362 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:55,960 Miss. 363 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:56,960 Miss. 364 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:57,960 Miss. 365 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,600 How about you say it for me? 366 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,560 You guys know what I'm trying to say. 367 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,200 And even the occasional Phantom photo bomber. 368 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,200 Okay. 369 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,480 There were accounts of a full ass person. 370 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,240 No one knew or could recall being in their group photos. 371 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,240 Okay. 372 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,800 So not a photo bomber. 373 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:20,800 Not a real one. 374 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:21,800 Not a living one. 375 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:22,800 Yeah. 376 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:23,800 Yeah. 377 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:24,800 Great. 378 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,000 That's always the craziest fucking thing to me. 379 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,360 And people show up in your group photo and everyone's like, who is that? 380 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,360 I know. 381 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,080 I've never personally had it happen. 382 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,360 I haven't either. 383 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,720 It better not. 384 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,320 I want to go on the record and say it's freaking better not. 385 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,320 Okay. 386 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:48,600 Knock on some wood. 387 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:55,640 While walking the paths close to the dense wooded area, you might hear a whistling tune 388 00:15:55,640 --> 00:16:00,760 accompanied by the beat of a jug drifting through the trees. 389 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,640 Someone playing a jug. 390 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:04,640 Yeah. 391 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,880 I'll explain more maybe after I read the rest of this. 392 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,200 Okay. 393 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:16,920 Then the playful music stops dead and a horrifying male scream rips through the forest. 394 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,520 I don't really like that. 395 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:19,520 No one does. 396 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:20,520 No. 397 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:21,520 Then the beat drops. 398 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:22,520 Exactly. 399 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,200 That's what I was thinking when I didn't. 400 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,400 Oh no. 401 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:33,200 It is said to come from a logger who was sadly killed by a falling tree. 402 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:38,600 People report to see a lumberjack looking man with an axe who suddenly disappears before 403 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:39,840 their eyes. 404 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,680 I mean, if it weren't for the disappearing, that could just be a hipster. 405 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,360 It could be. 406 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,680 There are some of them there. 407 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:47,680 Yeah. 408 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:48,680 It's like a couple. 409 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:49,680 Just like a couple. 410 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:50,680 Okay. 411 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,680 They don't usually carry axes though, you know? 412 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,400 Oh, yeah, I guess. 413 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,600 Yeah, that's fair. 414 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:03,160 So the jug thing, it said that he would play it as a musical instrument while he was whistling. 415 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,360 So he would like drum on it, basically. 416 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:06,360 Yeah. 417 00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:07,360 Yeah. 418 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:10,560 I kind of was thinking he would like blow it, like blow across it to me. 419 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:11,560 Yeah. 420 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,160 So maybe he did a little bit of that too, but it physically said it, but he was like pounding 421 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,160 on it. 422 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,160 Okay. 423 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:18,760 I'm doing this till like my tummy. 424 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:19,760 Yeah. 425 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,160 No, I mean, that's a choice. 426 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,960 That is, that's a choice. 427 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:24,960 Interesting. 428 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,240 I'm so sorry, everyone. 429 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:34,080 In this next part, there will be some awful terms that I will say one time and give you 430 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,960 my peace of mind about them and never say them again. 431 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:37,960 Okay. 432 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:38,960 Great. 433 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,520 I don't, I don't even want to say it, but it's part of the story and it's what's out there. 434 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,760 So I just, I want to be able to correct it on my end. 435 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:46,760 Okay. 436 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,240 To say no, no, no, don't say that. 437 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,240 All right. 438 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:50,240 No, no, no, no. 439 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,800 No, no, no. 440 00:17:51,800 --> 00:18:00,120 The title of the story in that very old book I was telling you about is called the Hunchback 441 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:01,880 of Lithia Park. 442 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,720 Clearly, that's very rude and we don't name call around here. 443 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,880 So I'm not going to say that again. 444 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,280 All right. 445 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,960 This condition is called kyphosis. 446 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,440 It's an abnormal forward curve of the upper spine. 447 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:22,560 It can develop later in life or like in this case, a child can be born with it. 448 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,560 Oh. 449 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:30,600 So in the 20s, a boy was born with this condition into a logging family and I kind of wondered 450 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,880 if it was the lumber jack's son. 451 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,280 Oh, it was killed by the tree. 452 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,960 I don't know. 453 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,120 There wasn't any dates on that. 454 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:40,920 So I'm not sure. 455 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:47,200 Anyway, this boy also had another extremely rare condition. 456 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,240 Oh, boy. 457 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,360 Called Hypertrichosis. 458 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:56,400 This causes excessive hair growth on a person's body. 459 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,880 I thought I recognized that. 460 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,840 Oh, boy. 461 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,800 His particular symptoms happen to show up on his face. 462 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,240 Oh, no. 463 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,640 And since humans fucking suck. 464 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:09,640 Yeah. 465 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,080 They called him the dog face boy of Ashland. 466 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:18,080 I was going to say that would make him look like like a werewolf. 467 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,080 Yeah. 468 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,360 It's actually, it's known as like werewolf syndrome, which I don't agree with either. 469 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:23,960 I don't think people should say that either. 470 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,680 Just call it by its name. 471 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,680 No, it's a medical condition. 472 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:28,680 Yeah. 473 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:29,680 That's so sad. 474 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:30,680 I know. 475 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:31,680 It gets worse. 476 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:32,680 Oh, great. 477 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:33,680 He gets a lot worse. 478 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:34,680 Okay. 479 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,520 And it literally kills me. 480 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:43,200 This poor child had two very visible conditions he was born with. 481 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,240 He didn't have a fucking choice. 482 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,240 Yeah. 483 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,600 And people obviously treated him like the garbage humans that they actually are. 484 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:51,600 There. 485 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,560 So everyone refers to him with these awful names. 486 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,760 And I'm going to call him Johnny for the rest of the story. 487 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,760 Oh. 488 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,960 And I wish I knew his real name, but I wanted to honor him the best that I can and just 489 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,160 give him a nice name to call. 490 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,160 Yeah. 491 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,600 And I got like from John Doe. 492 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,480 I don't know his name exactly what I was thinking. 493 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:12,880 I call him Johnny. 494 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:13,880 Johnny. 495 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:14,880 I know. 496 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,400 This next part really kind of makes me think that the lumbejack who passed might have 497 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,720 been his father. 498 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,720 Really? 499 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,720 Yeah, because okay. 500 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,720 I'll tell you. 501 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,720 Okay. 502 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:24,720 Okay. 503 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:25,720 Please. 504 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,680 And in the stories, there was no mention of his mother either. 505 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,960 It was just a father that they mentioned. 506 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,280 Typical. 507 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:38,240 So Johnny had a resort to stealing to get by which makes me think he was alone. 508 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,240 Okay. 509 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,240 Yeah. 510 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,760 Like both of his parents are gone or maybe they even disowned him. 511 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:43,760 Oh, no. 512 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:44,760 Yeah. 513 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,040 There's really no way to know. 514 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:52,640 But either way, clearly this boy was treated poorly by the people in the town. 515 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,800 And of course he had to steal. 516 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:55,800 Yeah. 517 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,200 Does anyone going to give him a job? 518 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,200 You know? 519 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,920 Or because he's a child maybe just, you know, take care of him. 520 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:04,920 Yeah. 521 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,760 It makes me really sad. 522 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,080 I hate everything. 523 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,320 It seems like he did try to make money by selling pencils. 524 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,520 Oh, I know. 525 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,520 So awesome. 526 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:21,640 And that's clearly not going to make enough money to survive off of. 527 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,400 But he was trying. 528 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,400 It was clear. 529 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,400 Yeah. 530 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,160 I mean, yeah, probably not. 531 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,160 Yeah. 532 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,960 Especially when I'm not sure how many people would it even buy from him, you know? 533 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:33,960 Yeah. 534 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:40,880 He was always seen carrying a gunny sack over his shoulder too. 535 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:46,000 Probably carrying all the belongings he had in this world with him. 536 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,000 Great. 537 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:53,640 And then in the mid 20s, Johnny suddenly went missing. 538 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,240 Okay. 539 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:01,600 I don't think he just moved on to a different town, although nobody was found and no one was 540 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,440 ever held accountable. 541 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,880 It's speculated that he was murdered. 542 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:06,880 Yeah. 543 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:13,800 I mean, it's a fairly rural and rugged place. 544 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:19,040 And there would certainly be places that you could hide a body. 545 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,040 Yeah. 546 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,040 And I, no one really cared. 547 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,040 I'm sure. 548 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,600 I was just going to say. 549 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,280 I don't know how hard they were really looking. 550 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,280 Yeah. 551 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:34,240 So I was thickening, feeling that this is, you know, the most likely scenario. 552 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,240 Yeah. 553 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:43,000 In the 60s, though, the boy was spotted again, but appearing never to have changed on all 554 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,000 of those years. 555 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Interesting. 556 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:51,520 The police were called due to a boy attempting to steal from parked cars. 557 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:56,720 But they were never able to find anyone when they came to check it out. 558 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,720 Weird. 559 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,720 Huh. 560 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,920 And I'm not done breaking your heart just yet. 561 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,520 I'm so sorry. 562 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:04,520 No. 563 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,560 There's one more story of Johnny. 564 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,560 This one's kind of both. 565 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,360 It's like heartwarming and heartbreaking at this. 566 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:11,360 Okay. 567 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:12,360 A bittersweet. 568 00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:13,360 Yeah. 569 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:14,360 That's the words. 570 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:15,360 Yeah. 571 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:19,720 At the playgrounds, parents often notice their children playing with someone unseen by 572 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,440 their adult eyes. 573 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,440 I don't care for that. 574 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,040 You might like this one. 575 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:32,400 These kids will describe a new friend in funny clothes, which people think are like older 576 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,400 clothes. 577 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,400 Yeah. 578 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,400 Okay. 579 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:40,960 Although this new friend doesn't talk, they say he's nice and has a toy train. 580 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:46,880 But the kids are often confused when they try to play with the toy he offers to share. 581 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,760 And he and the train disappear. 582 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,560 Oh my gosh. 583 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:51,560 A train. 584 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:52,560 A train. 585 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,480 Oh, yeah. 586 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,000 He was known to like rob trains too. 587 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,000 Oh. 588 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,000 So that's interesting. 589 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,960 A lot of train ties here. 590 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,560 Okay. 591 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,840 They also describe him, you know, in their innocent child eyes as having a dog like a 592 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:08,840 parent. 593 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,840 That's okay. 594 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:10,840 They're innocent children. 595 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,840 They don't know any better. 596 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,840 Yeah. 597 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,280 I mean, when it's not, there's no malicious intent. 598 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,280 Yeah. 599 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,880 And, you know, they say he's nice and they were going to play with him. 600 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:25,360 So it's not like they were, what's that word we excluding him from the first scare of him? 601 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:26,360 Yeah. 602 00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:30,320 There's no instinct to, you know, big a tree. 603 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,320 Yeah. 604 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,760 So it seems to me like poor Johnny just wants to play like a normal kid. 605 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,360 He just wants to play with his train. 606 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:41,160 No, no, no, no other kids and just be happy. 607 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,640 Just playing the train. 608 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:49,840 The last tale I have is the most common ghostly encounter in Lithia Park. 609 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,840 Oh my god. 610 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,240 No, no. 611 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,440 There's, okay. 612 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,440 There's more. 613 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,680 There's, there's, there are more things. 614 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,680 Okay. 615 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,920 I couldn't find any proof of this in the Google machine. 616 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:09,200 But the legend is a young girl was sexually assaulted and murdered where one of the duck 617 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,240 ponds is now back in the 1800s. 618 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,480 So long time ago, long before the park was there. 619 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,240 Super. 620 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,840 People hear female whispering in their ears and more intensely screaming for help in the 621 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,840 distance. 622 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:25,840 Okay. 623 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:26,840 I know. 624 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,160 No, thank you. 625 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,320 When people look for the source of the voice, they find nothing. 626 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:38,120 And a lot of people who have this experience don't even know of the story of the girl. 627 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:39,120 Oh boy. 628 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:43,120 They're quite distraught when they can't find the person I need help. 629 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:44,120 Yeah. 630 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:46,880 I would be truly horrified. 631 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,880 Yeah. 632 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,880 That would be awful. 633 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,000 Trama. 634 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:57,160 She often takes the form of a blue light or mist at the duck pond. 635 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,560 She might follow you around the park and try to get your attention. 636 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,400 That might be the source of like the people hearing the footsteps or feeling like they're 637 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,400 being watched. 638 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,400 Yeah. 639 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,960 That would make that would make sense. 640 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,080 Or even appear in front of cars driving in the area. 641 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:19,080 When the no doubt startled driver hits the blue mist, anyone that's in the car feels a sudden 642 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,800 chill that is gone as fast as the operation. 643 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:23,800 Okay. 644 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,680 I don't, I don't, I just want to clarify. 645 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,000 I don't like that. 646 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:34,360 Um, that's like one of my biggest fears of driving alone at night on like a highway is 647 00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:39,080 like the, you know, the woman in white or whenever we'll jump in front of your car. 648 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,080 Yeah. 649 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:46,440 Like we need to stop the women in white and the mist. 650 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,440 Yeah. 651 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,440 Okay. 652 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,520 These are national security threats of the highest order. 653 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,120 It's got to stop. 654 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:57,280 But since this woman or girl, they, they do describe her as a young girl. 655 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,440 Unfortunately. 656 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,640 Um, she appears as blue. 657 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,440 So they call her the blue girl or the blue lady. 658 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,280 Oh. 659 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,280 Yeah. 660 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,280 That's kind of cute. 661 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,280 It does make me sad though. 662 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,600 Like as much as I, I don't want a ghost to jump in front of my car. 663 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,560 Like she's just, yeah. 664 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,200 It does make me think it's like a residual haunting, maybe where she's. 665 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,200 Yeah. 666 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,600 It's like she's trying to get help. 667 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,600 Yeah. 668 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,520 Hopefully it's not for actual spirit. 669 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,120 It's just what we've talked about before. 670 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:27,560 Like the impression of what happened. 671 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,560 Yes. 672 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,920 I'm going to go with that. 673 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,920 I hope so. 674 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,320 I'm going to go with that. 675 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,320 Yeah. 676 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,840 Good about that. 677 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,600 So we're going to move on and read some more people's experiences. 678 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,280 This is a comment on Oregon haunted houses dot com. 679 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,280 Oh my god. 680 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,280 It's titled creepy. 681 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,280 Oh, perfect. 682 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:51,240 This is from June 2018. 683 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:56,640 When I went there about a year ago, it was about 12 a.m. or one. 684 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,800 Don't go at night. 685 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,280 That's not the, it's danger. 686 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,000 It's not the ideal time to visit the end of our day. 687 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,000 Yeah. 688 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,320 My mom and sister were with me also. 689 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,280 We asked Siri for directions. 690 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,000 Did you ask Siri or did you ask God? 691 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,080 It's a really good question. 692 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:23,200 And she gave us directions like normal, but it took us to the back of the part. 693 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,200 Stop it. 694 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,600 This is a different person. 695 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,400 I cannot. 696 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,400 So it definitely was Siri. 697 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,400 Then it wasn't God. 698 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,400 Yeah. 699 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,400 They're both the she. 700 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,320 But when we got out of the car, we heard little footsteps. 701 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,320 No, thank you. 702 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,160 This is literally the same experience. 703 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,680 No, no, thank you, please. 704 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,080 This one has a little more though. 705 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,600 I don't care for it. 706 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,560 And then all of a sudden my sister thought she heard a little girl whisper in her ear. 707 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,160 But what did she say? 708 00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:04,040 She said the little girl said something like, hi, or help, which is one of the reports of 709 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:09,080 the blue mist or whatever whispering in people's ear asking for help. 710 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,080 Are you okay? 711 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,840 Or are you just scared? 712 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,240 No, I am. 713 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,240 I'm fine. 714 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,080 I think your feet need to come up. 715 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,080 Yeah, probably. 716 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,360 They're like hovering closer and closer. 717 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,160 She couldn't clearly hear it. 718 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,760 But when we left, it was looking out the window. 719 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,760 Oh, God, I. 720 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,760 Yeah. 721 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:28,760 Wait, what? 722 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,760 It's like what? 723 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,760 Yes. 724 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:37,840 But when we left, I was looking out the window and saw a little girl wearing a white gown. 725 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,920 I told my mom and sister about it when we got back to the hotel. 726 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,880 My mom and sister also said they saw it too. 727 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,080 Do you think they all just saw it and were like, we can't say anything. 728 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,120 Maybe it'll, maybe it will not be real. 729 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:59,600 I mean, yeah, I feel like that's exactly what happened. 730 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,520 My mom had the brilliant idea to go back the next day and see if it would take us to the 731 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,920 entrance again or not. 732 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,400 It took us to the main entrance. 733 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,400 Okay. 734 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,360 We were a bit spooked. 735 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,200 Was a little girl still there because then she might be real. 736 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,200 I hope not. 737 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,200 Oh, no. 738 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,200 Yeah. 739 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,200 So that's weird. 740 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,960 It's two different websites, two different people leaving almost the same story except for 741 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,960 the first people as soon as they heard the footsteps they loved. 742 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,280 They were like, by, yeah. 743 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,320 So they might have seen a little girl if they stayed. 744 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,560 Okay. 745 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:41,200 I kind of want to go experiment and see where the GPS will take you versus the morning. 746 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,200 I don't want to get out of my car though. 747 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,200 No. 748 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:49,480 No, I would turn on my child locks so that you couldn't get out. 749 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:55,480 What if the girl appears in the car and then she can't get out? 750 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,080 I mean, she already got in. 751 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,120 So I feel like she can get back out. 752 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,720 Like she doesn't need my assistance. 753 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,840 Child locks are not a thing for her. 754 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,320 Not in the ghost world. 755 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,560 No. 756 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:13,160 The next comment is called Ghost Girl in Columbia Hotel, which I forgot to look at how close 757 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,160 that was. 758 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,160 Do you want to Google that real quick? 759 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,160 Yeah. 760 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,160 Columbia Hotel in Ashland. 761 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,160 Okay. 762 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:24,160 It is 2.2 miles away. 763 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,160 Ooh, okay. 764 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,160 Yeah. 765 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,520 So this place is pretty close. 766 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:35,040 And their story says, though not technically in Lithia Park, my mother saw a young girl in 767 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:41,520 an old fashioned dress with bowl cut, dark hair who appeared to her while she was trying 768 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,520 to sleep. 769 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,520 Okay. 770 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,520 Listen. 771 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,400 Beauty sleep. 772 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,080 Don't, don't, no. 773 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,440 Don't have kids if you want that. 774 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,440 I mean, aha. 775 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,400 Yeah, tell me more. 776 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,720 Confirm my life choices. 777 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,440 We stayed at the Columbia Hotel the night this happened. 778 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:09,320 While my mom was not psychic, she is sensitive to the other side. 779 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,680 The little girl is not likely the ghost from the park. 780 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:18,720 I haven't heard any other reports of her or any ghost in the Columbia Hotel. 781 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,720 I disagree. 782 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,720 Okay. 783 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,520 I think it might be her. 784 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,520 Okay. 785 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,520 I don't know. 786 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,120 Then that kind of like makes me think it is like semi-intelligent. 787 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,680 Maybe there's two different. 788 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:37,520 How many ghost children are running around in Ashland? 789 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,280 You guys, I am not okay with that. 790 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,120 I really wanted to go back and visit Ashland. 791 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,680 I love it there. 792 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,120 And now I think during the day time, I find. 793 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,120 Okay. 794 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,440 It's a beautiful park. 795 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,520 I don't think anyone should be deterred from going there in the day. 796 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,520 Right. 797 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,520 But this isn't at the park. 798 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,520 Yeah. 799 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,640 No, that's at the Columbia Hotel. 800 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,000 Maybe it followed them. 801 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,200 Maybe it attached to them a little bit. 802 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,200 Okay. 803 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,520 I forget sometimes that's it. 804 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:08,520 That's the thing. 805 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,040 That's the thing. 806 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,600 And do you remember that children's laughter was heard in the theater too? 807 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,600 No. 808 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,800 So that made me think maybe they both the kids are together, you know, messing with the park. 809 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,160 Just having a good old time. 810 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,680 You are single-handedly ruining my life. 811 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,040 I'm so sorry. 812 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,680 Nat. 813 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:34,080 You're like, really bitch. 814 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,640 So I have one more story and this one's from Reddit. 815 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,040 It's from What the Fish Sauce? 816 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,440 WTF Fish Sauce. 817 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,520 I like that. 818 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,280 This is for a year ago. 819 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,960 And people were asking if there was any hauntings in Lithia Park and they say, not sure if 820 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:59,600 this qualifies or not, I was staying at Lithia Springs Resort, which is really close to the 821 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,600 park as well. 822 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,760 It did look that one up. 823 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,400 It sounds fancy. 824 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,840 I was having a nice night away with my wife. 825 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,640 She was quietly reading and I was sitting just relaxing with a glass of wine. 826 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,440 That sounds amazing. 827 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,040 With the door open watching the scenery. 828 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,640 It is freaking gorgeous there, you guys. 829 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,680 It's so beautiful. 830 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,600 A woman walked up to the small pond and was pouring water on the pond from her cup 831 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,600 tans. 832 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,840 So she was like scooping water and pouring it out. 833 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:37,680 She was strangely graceful and glowing faintly blue. 834 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,080 Like a reflection of moonlight. 835 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,080 That's beautiful. 836 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,560 Yeah, that's beautiful. 837 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,560 Beautiful. 838 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:50,080 Or is she drinking a lot of colloidal silver or either way? 839 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,080 Mom. 840 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,080 Did you watch that documentary? 841 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,080 Yes. 842 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,880 Oh God, that was disturbing as fuck. 843 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,120 Yeah, we're definitely going to talk about that at some point. 844 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,120 They showed a lot. 845 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,120 Yeah. 846 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,120 Yeah, they did. 847 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,120 This was like, that's not real. 848 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,240 I was like, that's literal footage. 849 00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:06,240 They talk. 850 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:07,640 Do you want a fucking bed? 851 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,160 Do you want a fucking bed? 852 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,160 That's fucking real. 853 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,480 That's so funny. 854 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:21,560 We're not used to how much fucking footage there is of shit that's happened like now. 855 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:30,840 If it's happened in the last 10 years, it's, I mean, unsettling. 856 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,840 How much there is sometimes. 857 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,600 But anyways, highly documented. 858 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,600 I like that. 859 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,040 Highly documented. 860 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,840 The water continued to pour from her cup tans as she moved around the pond. 861 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:50,920 I watched her sort of stunned for what felt like minutes and then called for my wife to come 862 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,920 see. 863 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:52,920 Oh, okay. 864 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,920 Yeah, just tell your wife by even creepily watching this woman. 865 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:02,920 You can see this hot lady that looks like Moonlight. 866 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:03,920 Yeah. 867 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,200 My wife was gone. 868 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:12,800 I felt so confused that I woke up where I was sitting in front of the open door later that 869 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,960 night with a glass of wine on the ground. 870 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,000 Exquiz me. 871 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:24,800 I don't know why I had such a strange connected dream slash hallucination and no memory of being 872 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,880 tired or falling asleep. 873 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:32,400 So he was literally literally literally literally literally just sitting there watching the 874 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,800 scenery and fell asleep without knowing it and like spilled his wine. 875 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,800 That is wild. 876 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,800 Yeah. 877 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,800 That is wild. 878 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,800 Okay. 879 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,080 Well, I'm done with my story. 880 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,080 And then with the hour of torture. 881 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,080 I'm just going to sleep. 882 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,080 Are you asleep right now? 883 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,080 Oh, God. 884 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,400 Your wine's on the floor. 885 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,600 Listen, that's the worst part. 886 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,600 It is. 887 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,520 I had a weird dream last night. 888 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,520 It wasn't like this. 889 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,240 Like I knew I was sleeping. 890 00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:04,240 Yeah. 891 00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:05,720 Is it was a sex dream? 892 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:06,720 I wish. 893 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:10,000 No, it was really cool though. 894 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,880 So I was like in a car watching trees go by as I do when I'm in the car. 895 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:15,880 Yeah. 896 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,040 And I see all of these birds in the tree, like just tons of them. 897 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,320 And then I'm looking closer in their snowy owls. 898 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,320 Oh my gosh. 899 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:30,040 And then they all just suddenly take off and there's just like swarms of snowy owls just 900 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,160 like flying through the sky. 901 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,960 And I'm just like and then I try to take a picture of my camera. 902 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,960 Won't work. 903 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:36,960 No. 904 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:37,960 I know. 905 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,960 It's not weird though. 906 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:39,960 It's like that's really cool. 907 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:45,800 I want to see a friggin hundred thousand swarming snowy owls. 908 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,280 Your dream just owls. 909 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,280 This was last night. 910 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,280 This was last night. 911 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,040 It was the dream I had like right before I woke up. 912 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,880 So it's the one I remember. 913 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:55,880 Interesting. 914 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,800 Did you ever remember owls? 915 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,800 I did not. 916 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,480 Owls have significance for me. 917 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,120 So yeah, yeah, we've kind of talked about that before. 918 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,120 Yeah. 919 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:10,520 You know, my great grandma, she, she was an owl lady. 920 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,520 Yeah. 921 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:12,520 Yeah. 922 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:19,560 So I started doing some research into doing some goddess work. 923 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:31,000 And I found out that basically the women certainly on my at least maternal side have serious 924 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:38,600 affiliation with everything, like everything, like to Hecate. 925 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,600 Yeah. 926 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,600 Owls. 927 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,600 Owls. 928 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,600 Frogs. 929 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,600 Two black dogs. 930 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,600 It's so cool. 931 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:53,440 I know there's a lot of other stuff that just kind of pops up and I don't always know the 932 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:59,360 significance right away, but I'm like, they might not have even known themselves, but they 933 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,360 were witches. 934 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,360 Yeah, definitely. 935 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,360 They were witches. 936 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,360 Most of us are. 937 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,360 Yeah. 938 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,360 Yeah. 939 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,200 Yeah, that's what I'm coming to learn. 940 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,320 Yeah, I feel literally every single person on the earth. 941 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,320 Yeah. 942 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,320 Sorry, not sorry. 943 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,320 Yeah. 944 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,760 Well, should we do some tarot? 945 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:19,760 Yeah. 946 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,920 Yeah, let's do some tarot. 947 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:21,920 Let's see what we get. 948 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:22,920 I'm excited. 949 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:23,920 Me too. 950 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,920 Tare it. 951 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:33,920 As indie podcasters, we love to show our support of other awesome shows. 952 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,800 So stay tuned for the promo we've got to share with you this week. 953 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,240 Let's show them some love. 954 00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:48,120 You can find their info in our show notes. 955 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,680 Welcome to Murder and Mimosas. 956 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,560 I'm Shannon and I'm Danica. 957 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:59,040 Together as a mother and daughter duo, we host Murder Mimosas. 958 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:04,280 True Cran podcast with an episode released every Saturday at 10 a.m. so you can listen to 959 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,680 it during prime brunch time. 960 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,680 While we don't require a Mimosa, we do highly recommend one. 961 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,760 All of our episodes are cases that we found really interesting or just really stuck with 962 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,680 us because we hope we'll do the same for you. 963 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:25,520 You can listen to us on Spotify, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. 964 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,880 You guys were bad. 965 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,480 And don't worry, we did get more wine. 966 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:36,600 Well, of course. 967 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,400 We did a shuffle this one real good because it's new. 968 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,400 Yes. 969 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:41,400 It is. 970 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,400 Okay, here. 971 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,200 Why don't you give them a little? 972 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,200 Give them a little love. 973 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,200 Love. 974 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,200 All right. 975 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,240 Which deck do you want to do first? 976 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:54,840 Did you shuffle this one yet? 977 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,440 No, I'll shuffle that one. 978 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,640 And I'll pull from this one while you're shuffling. 979 00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,640 All right. 980 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,040 That's our new deck. 981 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,360 It's Tarottorial. 982 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,320 Real because we are learning. 983 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,320 Terrotorial. 984 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,320 Get it. 985 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:10,320 I do. 986 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,320 Woo! 987 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:19,920 I got the three of cups in reverse, which off the bat is interesting because they were three 988 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:20,920 ghosts. 989 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:21,920 Oh. 990 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,000 I almost stuck this in the incense holder. 991 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,000 You shouldn't. 992 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,800 I didn't. 993 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,800 I know. 994 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:30,800 Seven of swords. 995 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:31,800 Oh my gosh. 996 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,640 It's like cute little fox. 997 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,640 Oh. 998 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,240 It's not a fox, but it's not like it looks like one. 999 00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:40,240 Yeah. 1000 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:41,240 I think that's a weasel. 1001 00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:42,240 Yeah. 1002 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:43,760 How's the eggs? 1003 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,600 So five of swords, it was in reverse. 1004 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,200 Was it in reverse or was it upright? 1005 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,200 It was upright. 1006 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,200 Oh, boy. 1007 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,200 Yes. 1008 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,200 And this was in reverse. 1009 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,200 Yes. 1010 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,200 Three of cups in reverse. 1011 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:59,960 The three of cups on the tutorial card says friendship, community, support, happiness, 1012 00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:02,360 and celebration. 1013 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,560 And that's for the upright. 1014 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,360 And then for the reverse, you turn it over and it has different words. 1015 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,360 Ooh. 1016 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,360 Yeah. 1017 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,760 Overindulgence, isolation, gossip, enough there. 1018 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,760 Ooh. 1019 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,360 They're dancing in a literal fucking park. 1020 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,160 Oh my goodness. 1021 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,160 They are. 1022 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,880 Isn't that crazy? 1023 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:24,880 That is. 1024 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,880 Okay. 1025 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,520 I'm going to read the interpretation. 1026 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,760 Our keywords are essentially all the same. 1027 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,360 I don't know if you mentioned community. 1028 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,080 Yeah, I think it said community. 1029 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,080 Okay. 1030 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,720 That was the only one that stuck out that I thought maybe was different. 1031 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:45,400 So the upright is like what the park should be. 1032 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,480 The reverse is like kind of the hauntings. 1033 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,160 There's an extra excerpt. 1034 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,120 Let's map. 1035 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,080 The three graces. 1036 00:42:54,080 --> 00:43:02,720 Speak mythology speaks of three goddesses of joy, charm, and beauty known as the graces. 1037 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:09,400 The three of cups remind us of the famous painting Primavera. 1038 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,160 Ooh, is that Italian? 1039 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:17,560 By the Renaissance Italian painter, Sandro Botticelli. 1040 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,560 Wow. 1041 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,760 We talked about the Italian. 1042 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:21,760 Yeah. 1043 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,760 What's it called? 1044 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:23,760 Founded. 1045 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:30,840 Do you like how I sound like I'm doing an ad for Chef Boyardee? 1046 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:36,880 Which shows these three beautiful young deities dancing together. 1047 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:42,680 When reversed, the three of cups can indicate indulgence in food or drink. 1048 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,520 Too much partying. 1049 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:52,040 Perhaps you feel weary from too much interaction with other people and need some downtime. 1050 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,360 This card gets me. 1051 00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:00,360 Maybe you had too much interaction with ghosts and you just need some downtime. 1052 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,080 Yeah. 1053 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,400 Or you've become disenchanted with your friends. 1054 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:13,480 In some cases, it shows a longing for friendship or sense of community. 1055 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,200 Oh, Johnny. 1056 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,200 Johnny. 1057 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:30,520 In a reading about money rewards, excuse me, rewards from a group effort may be delayed 1058 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,360 or not as great as you'd hoped. 1059 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:40,680 This card can also warn of overextending yourself financially or counting your chickens 1060 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,680 before they're hatched. 1061 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,680 Oh. 1062 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:44,680 Interesting. 1063 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,760 It's interesting, too, because I kind of came across the park. 1064 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:54,120 I think now they have that resort, but I think the plan for the actual park, they wanted it 1065 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,800 to be a health retreat because of the springs. 1066 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,840 Oh, interesting, but it didn't happen. 1067 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:08,320 If the reading is about your job, the reversed three suggests your success comes in small 1068 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:15,960 ways rather than grand ones or a victory may seem hollow. 1069 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:21,800 Perhaps you don't feel as happy with your job or the result of a project as you'd expected 1070 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:22,800 to be. 1071 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,760 Like, maybe you wanted it to be a resort or maybe a tree fall on you. 1072 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:29,760 Could be that. 1073 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,760 Oh, boy. 1074 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:37,880 Oh, or if like the Johnny was trying to sell pencils and stuff, I don't know how to relate 1075 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,880 to that, too. 1076 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,880 Could be. 1077 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,880 Yeah. 1078 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:50,200 In a reading about love, the three reversed shows you may feel left out, discouraged or lonely. 1079 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:56,480 Perhaps you've grown and your lover/loved ones haven't kept up. 1080 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:03,320 In some cases, this card can mean a primary partnership takes up all your time and you don't 1081 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,000 get to see friends as much as you'd like. 1082 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,440 Maybe you don't have any. 1083 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:16,480 Maybe you try to make friends and then you disappear because you don't have enough energy. 1084 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,160 That's a possibility as well. 1085 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:23,840 I feel like also the girl might maybe she's trying to make friends, too. 1086 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:24,840 I don't know. 1087 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,800 Yeah, it could be. 1088 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,840 I feel like a lot of that was feeling like it tied back to Johnny for me. 1089 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,840 Yeah, mostly. 1090 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,840 You might be right. 1091 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,840 I think it's a lot of that. 1092 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,840 I think so too. 1093 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:39,840 Yeah. 1094 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:40,840 Okay. 1095 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,840 So we have the seven of swords and that's in the upright. 1096 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,840 Yes. 1097 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:44,840 Okay. 1098 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,840 Did I, I think I said five of swords to begin with? 1099 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:47,840 I don't know. 1100 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,840 I meant seven if I said five. 1101 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:49,840 Forgive me. 1102 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,840 I think you said seven. 1103 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:56,840 I issue a formal apology if I said five. 1104 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,280 Apology not accepted. 1105 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,280 Good. 1106 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,280 Okay. 1107 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:13,280 Anyway, keywords are uncertainty, illusion, impetuousness, stealth, cunning and strategy. 1108 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:20,440 Some decks, including the writer, weight Smith, Aquarian and Guilded Taro, show a man carrying 1109 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,880 away five swords. 1110 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,080 The fact that you said you thought you said five. 1111 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,840 And this is a man carrying five swords. 1112 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,840 Oh, yeah. 1113 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:31,840 And the deck. 1114 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:39,140 Oh boy, when this card appears, it suggests you're facing a challenge or problem and must 1115 00:47:39,140 --> 00:47:42,840 use caution to overcome potential danger. 1116 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,400 Yeah, all three of them, yeah. 1117 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,400 Yeah. 1118 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:54,880 The upright seven suggests a tricky situation in which things are not completely clear, 1119 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,200 like if your body is missed. 1120 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:05,720 Or if you, like we can't, I can't find any proof of the murder of the girl, you know? 1121 00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:06,720 Yeah. 1122 00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:11,760 I mean, I searched murdered girl, Ashland 1800s and nothing came up. 1123 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,320 I don't know what else I could search. 1124 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,320 Yeah, that's so hard. 1125 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,320 Yeah. 1126 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,320 Interesting. 1127 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:24,920 You may be formulating a plan, but don't have all the information you need, which, yeah. 1128 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:25,920 Wow. 1129 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:26,920 All right. 1130 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,440 For the plan, maybe risky and good backfire. 1131 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:38,480 This card can represent seraptitious action and advises diplomacy. 1132 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,600 What a seraptitious man. 1133 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,240 Kind of seraptitious. 1134 00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:44,240 Yes. 1135 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:45,240 Yes. 1136 00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:49,880 So always put syrup on your pancakes and that's that. 1137 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,880 Seraptitious. 1138 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:59,200 I always think of it as being like kind of under the surface, you know, sort of discreet. 1139 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,200 Okay. 1140 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,040 That makes sense. 1141 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,280 We can look it up. 1142 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,960 In a reading about money, the seven warns that you probably shouldn't go ahead with a financial 1143 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,080 idea or investment you're considering. 1144 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,080 Oh my god. 1145 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,480 I just had a flash of something. 1146 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,480 What? 1147 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:25,160 I wonder if Johnny was asking like for a job or asking to, I don't know for something from 1148 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,760 some people and they got mad. 1149 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:28,760 Yeah. 1150 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:29,760 Maybe. 1151 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,520 Or he was just like, you know, trying to steal from them, which could be that's a possibility 1152 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,520 too. 1153 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,520 But I don't know. 1154 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,520 I just like popped in my head as soon as you said that. 1155 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,360 Oh, Johnny, let us know. 1156 00:49:42,360 --> 00:50:02,640 If the reading is about your job, this card says don't engage in direct confrontation. 1157 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,280 Work behind the scenes to get results. 1158 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,480 That's that Seraptitious. 1159 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:13,680 Oh, the upright seven can also indicate restlessness. 1160 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:18,440 Perhaps your job lacks the diversity or stimulation you desire. 1161 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,560 Selling pencils isn't stimulating. 1162 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:27,080 And it says consider making a change or the lumberjack like don't cut. 1163 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,080 Yeah. 1164 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:33,440 Like own own the what's it called lumber mill or whatever and send the other people out 1165 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,720 to do the trees. 1166 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:35,720 Yeah. 1167 00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:42,720 It's like indirect contact contact with the tree. 1168 00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:43,720 Yeah. 1169 00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:46,360 Oh boy. 1170 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:53,520 In a reading about love, your advice to seek compromise and use diplomacy rather than arguing 1171 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:59,520 with a partner, but don't just go along to get along. 1172 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:05,240 Sometimes this card shows leaving a relationship that doesn't meet your intellectual or spiritual 1173 00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:06,240 needs. 1174 00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:07,640 This is a little chilling. 1175 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,640 There's an extra excerpt. 1176 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:10,640 Okay. 1177 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,800 Focus. 1178 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:17,200 Be focused and thorough in planning your strategy. 1179 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:25,360 As Barbara Moore writes in the Guilted Terror Companion, be on guard or one of those swords 1180 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:30,880 he left behind will find its way into his back. 1181 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,120 Like a wow. 1182 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,840 Like a tree falling in the forest. 1183 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,520 Or back stabbing asshole communities. 1184 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,680 Or maybe the little girl trusted someone she shouldn't have. 1185 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:44,680 Oh no. 1186 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:45,680 All of it. 1187 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,920 I think all of it relates to all. 1188 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,600 It's crazy that there's three people dancing in a park. 1189 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:51,600 Like I can't. 1190 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:52,600 Yeah. 1191 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,600 Yeah. 1192 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,440 I I simply calmed. 1193 00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:00,080 And it's like they're in the upside down, you know, like the under underworld. 1194 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,080 You know, the upside down. 1195 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,080 Oh. 1196 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,400 No, I hate it. 1197 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,400 Wow. 1198 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,400 I hate really. 1199 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,400 That's really cool though. 1200 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,400 Yeah. 1201 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:13,840 I'm like, that's really cool that they related to the story, which is the point of this whole 1202 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:14,840 thing. 1203 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,640 I don't give a sip. 1204 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:19,640 Yeah. 1205 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:20,640 But you can't really read it. 1206 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:21,640 That's what they say. 1207 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,280 Also, don't give a sip. 1208 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:29,720 We're going to wash our fingerprints and chapstick prints off of these and then we'll 1209 00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:31,360 take a picture of them. 1210 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,960 Maybe we'll leave it dirty. 1211 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,280 We're real and dirty people. 1212 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,560 I didn't brush my teeth today. 1213 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:38,560 That's not true. 1214 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:39,560 You've brushed them now. 1215 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:44,800 I just smell my breath the entire episode. 1216 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,800 How's your pop filter? 1217 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:48,800 Stanky? 1218 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:49,800 It's not great. 1219 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:50,800 All right. 1220 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,600 No, it's fine. 1221 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,200 We give it a fabreezer. 1222 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,640 Oh, did you want to show off our prize? 1223 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:58,640 Yeah, I think so. 1224 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,120 I think we already did show, but we are using the. 1225 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,120 We did show. 1226 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,320 Yeah, we did a little video of us opening it. 1227 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,320 Oh, right. 1228 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:07,320 Okay. 1229 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,320 We should probably tell them what we're talking about. 1230 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,040 Our gift that we won from through the veil. 1231 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,560 We're using the incense. 1232 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,920 We got the little salinite. 1233 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:15,920 Salinite. 1234 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:16,920 Stick. 1235 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:22,320 We were going for sort of a foresty theme here. 1236 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:27,880 And this is one that has all of the elements engraved into it. 1237 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:32,840 Spirit, water, fire, earth, and air. 1238 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:33,840 It's perfect. 1239 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,440 All those things are in the park, I assume. 1240 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,440 Yeah. 1241 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,840 That sounds about right. 1242 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,640 Fire, I'm not sure, but I'm sure that they have a fire somewhere. 1243 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,640 Well, they have forest fires. 1244 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,320 Maybe not that kind of fire. 1245 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,720 Well, listen. 1246 00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:52,320 Maybe the Shakespeare plays have some fire. 1247 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,320 Yeah, maybe. 1248 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:55,320 Well, fast. 1249 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,280 So we brought this tree. 1250 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,280 It's humongous. 1251 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,760 It really, it's taken on quite a life of its own. 1252 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,760 It's beautiful. 1253 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:05,760 Yeah. 1254 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:06,760 Did you tell them what it was from? 1255 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:07,760 I haven't. 1256 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,760 No. 1257 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,160 My mom was very, very jealous. 1258 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,560 And I don't know how this happened. 1259 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:13,560 I don't. 1260 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:14,560 I don't. 1261 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:19,200 I don't keep plants alive just historically. 1262 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:28,160 But this plant came from a trimming of one of my grandmother's plants. 1263 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:33,520 My cousin created, I don't know, however, propagated them. 1264 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:34,520 Yeah. 1265 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,800 That's the word propagated. 1266 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:43,560 Propagated them for several of us because now our maternal grandmother is gone and we 1267 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,640 have we have the plant. 1268 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:46,640 So sweet. 1269 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:52,800 Yeah, my mom's going to be super pissed when she sees it in this video because she's going 1270 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,480 to be like, first of all, why is your closet door open? 1271 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:56,480 Oh, well. 1272 00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:03,680 We're human, but hers is, it's looking pretty shrimpy. 1273 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:04,680 Oh, yeah. 1274 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,200 You wonder why? 1275 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:15,640 Well, she keeps it by a cold sliding glass door is the argument that we have made. 1276 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,720 Maybe give it a little heater. 1277 00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:23,240 I mean, maybe just like put it up away from the cold glass in the winter. 1278 00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:25,040 There's a lot of solutions. 1279 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:31,840 It needs some, you know, like indirect sunlight, but it doesn't mean it has to sit by cold 1280 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:32,840 glass. 1281 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:38,600 Yeah, that would make sense because I had mine by my window upstairs and, I mean, it wasn't 1282 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:39,600 very warm up there. 1283 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,200 I think I kept the heater vent closed and it didn't do great. 1284 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,280 I still do have like a clipping from it that keeps growing. 1285 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,280 It's probably about this long now. 1286 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,280 Not from hers. 1287 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:52,280 It's a different one. 1288 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,280 A different one. 1289 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,280 Yeah. 1290 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,280 Same type of plant. 1291 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,280 Yeah. 1292 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:57,280 Different plant. 1293 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,280 Yeah. 1294 00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,280 But yeah, it didn't do good next to the window. 1295 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,800 So maybe next time I'll put it somewhere else. 1296 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,960 You know what's really interesting is I took this to my old office and I had it on the corner 1297 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:11,800 of my desk and I was trying to get sunlight out of the one window. 1298 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:17,640 And then when it started to warm up, I moved her and she was sitting in there and my office 1299 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,720 always got like that warm afternoon sun. 1300 00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:24,800 Oh, so it like she's a little bit of warmth. 1301 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:25,800 She's sprouting up. 1302 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:26,800 Nice. 1303 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:27,800 Good to know. 1304 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:28,800 Good to know. 1305 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:29,800 Plant tips with Caitlin. 1306 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:30,800 Who would have sunk? 1307 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,960 I mean, I don't know any. 1308 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:33,960 She's a green witch. 1309 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:34,960 Yeah. 1310 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,800 She don't even know which I guess I don't maybe these vines are so long. 1311 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:40,800 They are. 1312 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:41,800 I can't believe it. 1313 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:42,800 Do you see them? 1314 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:43,800 They're down here. 1315 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:44,800 Yeah. 1316 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:45,800 Oh my god. 1317 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:46,800 Yeah, you can. 1318 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:47,800 It wraps around the table. 1319 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:48,800 It's wild. 1320 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:49,800 It's gold. 1321 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:50,800 It's gold. 1322 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:51,800 Should we do the thing? 1323 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:52,800 Let's do our thing. 1324 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:53,800 Okay. 1325 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:54,800 Have a pre-cast day. 1326 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:55,800 See you next Tuesday. 1327 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:56,800 See you next Tuesday. 1328 00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,800 Unless you get lost in a Shakespeare play. 1329 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:01,800 Oh. 1330 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,800 I didn't realize that was a possibility. 1331 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:06,800 I have to go. 1332 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:07,800 I have to go. 1333 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,800 What's the thing where he holds the skull? 1334 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:17,800 To be or not to be? 1335 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:18,800 There's no question. 1336 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:19,800 It's not to be. 1337 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:20,800 No question. 1338 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:21,800 I have to go. 1339 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:22,800 Bye. 1340 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:23,800 Bye. 1341 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:30,800 Time's scared of fire and loud boom, boom. 1342 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,060 *laughs* pnwhauntsandhomicides.com