Episode 103: Where's Briana

1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,480 podcasting 2.0 for September 23 2022, episode 103 Where's 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,850 Brianna? Hello, everybody. Welcome to podcasting. 2.0 is 3 00:00:11,850 --> 00:00:15,630 your weekly board meeting, podcasting? 2.0 everything 4 00:00:15,630 --> 00:00:20,040 that's happening in the podcast space, whatever we got going on 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:25,320 with the namespace controversy, things to learn fun stuff. And 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,670 of course, all of the information and knowledge that 7 00:00:29,670 --> 00:00:33,360 flows over podcast index dot social. I'm Adam curry here in 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,970 the heart of the Texas Hill Country and in Alabama, the man 9 00:00:35,970 --> 00:00:38,790 who knows if you've got music in your feed, say a lot of my 10 00:00:38,790 --> 00:00:42,180 friend on the other end, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Dave Jones. 11 00:00:43,139 --> 00:00:49,949 Man, so beautiful here. So, so nice. Like, low 70s. Outside no 12 00:00:49,949 --> 00:00:53,219 humidity. Yeah, it's just beautiful. Yeah, 13 00:00:53,459 --> 00:00:57,329 I have to say I was in Georgia last week. And it was warmer 14 00:00:57,329 --> 00:01:00,749 than it is there now today where you are. But it was also really 15 00:01:00,749 --> 00:01:05,579 nice. Just a break from the Texas heat was very welcome. 16 00:01:06,060 --> 00:01:10,530 Let you get lucky because South Georgia is usually like the 17 00:01:10,530 --> 00:01:13,950 surface of the sun. Right? Oh, hot there 18 00:01:13,980 --> 00:01:17,970 right. Now it was it was really good. I loved it. And I made 19 00:01:17,970 --> 00:01:18,180 about 20 00:01:18,180 --> 00:01:20,580 you, you sound like you had a good trip. 21 00:01:21,060 --> 00:01:24,990 It was a really good trip. Particularly all the stories of 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,460 this was the beef initiative food intelligence Summit. And 23 00:01:29,460 --> 00:01:32,250 this is a lot of people who are a lot of people who are 24 00:01:32,250 --> 00:01:37,920 understanding what it is to live on a diet of pure, you know, 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,360 grass fed, grass finished, most would say, depending on your 26 00:01:42,450 --> 00:01:46,950 taste profile, animal protein. And so besides you know, and 27 00:01:46,950 --> 00:01:52,080 really connecting ranchers, to a new audience, in this case, 28 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,230 Bitcoiners, because Bitcoiners are willing to try anything and 29 00:01:55,230 --> 00:01:58,080 they got money, basically, I think that was the initial idea. 30 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,990 But it turns out, they all kind of understand store of value for 31 00:02:00,990 --> 00:02:04,320 the rancher, it's in the cow, the ranchers checking account if 32 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,560 he has one as a processing plant. So then there's all these 33 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,190 all these these similarities, but ranchers have been in 34 00:02:11,190 --> 00:02:14,190 America have been systematically pushed towards the commodity 35 00:02:14,340 --> 00:02:17,670 business of look, you just raise it, you ship them off to us, and 36 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:19,920 then we'll chop them up. And we'll do whatever, mainly, you 37 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:22,620 know, ship that over to other countries. So, you know, in 38 00:02:22,620 --> 00:02:25,080 America, we're not really even eating our own beef. You know, 39 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,860 it's from South America, Australia, but also the health 40 00:02:28,860 --> 00:02:32,370 benefits, which is, you know, I don't even know where you stand 41 00:02:32,370 --> 00:02:36,120 on that. But it's been quite amazing to see people who have 42 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,300 had issues for 20 years start to clear them up, and like two 43 00:02:39,300 --> 00:02:39,870 weeks 44 00:02:40,890 --> 00:02:45,330 there, followed this now, do you know the meat only diet? Do you 45 00:02:45,330 --> 00:02:45,540 know? 46 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,210 Yeah, the corner of the carnivore code? Sure. Yeah. 47 00:02:48,300 --> 00:02:50,760 So I followed this guy years ago, 48 00:02:51,660 --> 00:02:53,910 when the doctor whatever his name is, 49 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,400 no, this guy, no, this, this is just a just a dude. And this 50 00:02:59,730 --> 00:03:05,370 dude. Just the dude, you know, he decided that he was going to 51 00:03:07,110 --> 00:03:10,980 eat just meat, only meat. This is before there was a mean, like 52 00:03:10,980 --> 00:03:17,880 a carnivore diet. And he kept this journal. This is probably I 53 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,360 don't know, eight or nine years ago, he kept this journal of of 54 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,570 what what happened to his body, how he felt all these kinds of 55 00:03:24,570 --> 00:03:28,020 things. And he was like, I think the age was, I think he was 56 00:03:28,020 --> 00:03:34,200 around 60 or so. And so he was like, you know, I'm just gonna 57 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,060 do this and see what happens. He was sort of one of those 58 00:03:36,060 --> 00:03:41,640 experimenter and have one guy's and so he starts doing it. And 59 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,300 he the ordered, so there's a place out in Texas called 60 00:03:45,300 --> 00:03:50,940 Slickers. Yeah, which is like a grass fed beef. And they got 61 00:03:50,940 --> 00:03:53,880 more than just beef is all grass fed. It's all natural stuff. So 62 00:03:53,880 --> 00:04:00,150 he orders there is like, half and half like a hat, like a one 63 00:04:00,150 --> 00:04:05,070 to one ratio of regular beef. That was like, ground beef, like 64 00:04:05,070 --> 00:04:13,680 15% fat, and then their dog food beef. Oh, yeah. Was there it had 65 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,820 all the organ meats and everything 66 00:04:14,820 --> 00:04:17,880 in it. That was now being consumed by people again. 67 00:04:17,910 --> 00:04:18,390 Interesting. 68 00:04:18,420 --> 00:04:21,270 Yes, exactly. Yeah. So he's like, you know, it says not for 69 00:04:21,270 --> 00:04:23,400 human consumption, but it's the same stuff as everybody else 70 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,290 gets. So and he ate it raw 71 00:04:26,190 --> 00:04:30,960 dough. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, now it's what I heard a 72 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,990 lot of these right and I'm gonna put this clip in the show notes. 73 00:04:33,990 --> 00:04:37,860 It's about three minutes. It's Texas slim on the higher side 74 00:04:37,860 --> 00:04:42,030 chats and he explains it so well. In three minutes. It's 75 00:04:42,060 --> 00:04:43,230 it's phenomenal. 76 00:04:44,790 --> 00:04:48,540 Did he name that thing that beef? Dave and telefoon 77 00:04:48,540 --> 00:04:49,020 intelligence. 78 00:04:49,050 --> 00:04:52,710 It's all him. It's all him? Because that's a great name. Oh, 79 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:55,710 yeah. No, this guy's listened to a couple of couple just for a 80 00:04:55,710 --> 00:04:58,440 little bit of this. This guy's a born but now he's a rancher. 81 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,220 fifth, fourth or fifth generation, West Texas. But he 82 00:05:05,220 --> 00:05:09,480 also worked right after college years, which he didn't graduate. 83 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,650 He just attended college in Austin. Just all the rest of us. 84 00:05:13,650 --> 00:05:16,230 Yeah, exactly what he just audited. So he has no degree. 85 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,200 And he I think, right on the.com, boom, boom, boom, he 86 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,740 was involved in telecom and other things, but he's a rancher 87 00:05:22,740 --> 00:05:25,080 at heart. And also rodeo guy. 88 00:05:25,500 --> 00:05:28,020 Let me see. So you look out, you know, we're going through 89 00:05:28,020 --> 00:05:32,430 hyperinflation at this time. Well, you can look at bitcoin is 90 00:05:32,430 --> 00:05:36,300 basically a store of value that will fight hyperinflation, and 91 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:39,570 it's happening right in front of us right now. And people say, 92 00:05:39,570 --> 00:05:42,690 well, it's too volatile. No, it's not volatile. It's gone up 93 00:05:42,690 --> 00:05:47,790 100% its lifespan for the last 11 years in and I use the 94 00:05:47,790 --> 00:05:51,150 comparison the same? Well, you want to look at volatility. You 95 00:05:51,150 --> 00:05:54,300 know, I was in big tech, I was in.com, boom days, I was 96 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:57,690 younger, and I was in innovation at that time, and you don't 97 00:05:57,690 --> 00:06:01,530 wanna talk volatility? How about Amazon crashing over 80%, over 98 00:06:01,860 --> 00:06:05,850 nine times in its history that's volatile. And you look at a 99 00:06:05,850 --> 00:06:08,550 stock like Apple where you couldn't even trade for it. It 100 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:11,460 was against the law in Massachusetts to buy Apple 101 00:06:11,460 --> 00:06:14,850 stock. You know, you've looked at the stock market, you look at 102 00:06:14,850 --> 00:06:18,600 our financial systems and Bitcoin, a lot of people don't 103 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,090 understand it, because it gets a bad rap. Because what they're 104 00:06:21,090 --> 00:06:23,790 doing is they're doing a prohibition of really 105 00:06:23,790 --> 00:06:27,360 understanding what Bitcoin is, because it is a decentralized 106 00:06:27,390 --> 00:06:31,230 currency that has a store of value that we've never seen in a 107 00:06:31,230 --> 00:06:35,400 digital form. And, you know, you look at my grandfather, he 108 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,760 understood what Bitcoin was, he just didn't have it. He 109 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,720 understood what a store of value was. And he had that store value 110 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,540 in his land. And the cattle itself 111 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,240 goes on. It's really good. 112 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:55,050 Yeah. If I saw something in the, in the local papers about a 113 00:06:55,050 --> 00:06:58,560 thing called the beef initiative, food intelligence 114 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,560 summit, I would go right. Yes, definitely. I would go. 115 00:07:02,010 --> 00:07:06,870 Yeah, exactly. It was really good. And it's also I mean, it's 116 00:07:06,870 --> 00:07:10,140 amazing how little people know about their food, just in 117 00:07:10,140 --> 00:07:13,920 general. So it's a great educational, you know, it's but 118 00:07:14,070 --> 00:07:17,310 But it all comes down to value and people who understand value 119 00:07:17,310 --> 00:07:20,910 and you know, actually, value for value, he kind of borrowed 120 00:07:20,910 --> 00:07:24,630 that and adopted that to the beef initiative. And in turn, I 121 00:07:24,630 --> 00:07:27,420 stole the New International lifestyle. I'm like this, I'm 122 00:07:27,420 --> 00:07:30,690 taking that bitch, that's a good one. Like that. And we become 123 00:07:30,690 --> 00:07:32,700 really good friends. And I've met all these incredible 124 00:07:32,700 --> 00:07:35,490 ranchers and their story. I mean, it's just, it's 125 00:07:35,490 --> 00:07:38,010 phenomenal. You know, some of these people were stockbrokers, 126 00:07:38,010 --> 00:07:41,640 boom, change, you know, 20 years ago, 911, boom, done, go do 127 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,210 something else, and then also heal themselves. And it's magic, 128 00:07:45,210 --> 00:07:51,000 David's magic. But you know who else is magic? My new hero, my 129 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:56,040 new hero. And I, I liked him from the get go the first time 130 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,720 he showed up in the group. When we hung out at podcast moving 131 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,410 like, as guys cool, he's got a lot going on in his brain. But 132 00:08:04,410 --> 00:08:09,210 little did I know that he was such a troublemaker, and a man 133 00:08:09,210 --> 00:08:13,770 after my own heart, in a very subversive way. John Spurlock is 134 00:08:13,770 --> 00:08:18,690 just he's the shit. John Spurlock has done something so 135 00:08:18,690 --> 00:08:27,030 cool. The listening to pod land and God bless Todd, from 136 00:08:27,030 --> 00:08:34,530 blueberry and in the new media show. He is so honest, and so 137 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:36,960 open about his feelings and 138 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:40,379 his rattle off Todd. So Oh, yeah, 139 00:08:40,409 --> 00:08:46,259 his response to OP three, the open podcast prefix project was, 140 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,979 I mean, it was just beautiful, because it showed me Yeah, it 141 00:08:49,979 --> 00:08:54,389 the genesis of the podcast industrial complex. It taught me 142 00:08:54,389 --> 00:08:57,899 a lot about what they're dealing with, or what they've dealt with 143 00:08:57,899 --> 00:09:05,789 how captured it all is. And in a way, it's funny, because I don't 144 00:09:05,789 --> 00:09:08,699 know if you if you heard the whole show, and I've I've heard 145 00:09:08,699 --> 00:09:13,379 most of it at this point. Most of it. Yeah. But I want to make 146 00:09:13,379 --> 00:09:16,529 it clear that you know, this is John Spurlock put this together 147 00:09:16,529 --> 00:09:20,099 this is not necessarily podcasting. 2.0 is direction or 148 00:09:20,099 --> 00:09:24,359 vision or, or we're gonna build a stat service or anything like 149 00:09:24,359 --> 00:09:29,969 that. But it was it was that interpretation that really, like 150 00:09:29,969 --> 00:09:34,199 holy crap, I had no idea that this is 151 00:09:34,230 --> 00:09:37,200 this is what I loved hearing about. Oh, yeah, the history 152 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:37,380 there. 153 00:09:37,410 --> 00:09:41,190 Oh, yeah. And the back rooms and the emotions and the months of 154 00:09:41,190 --> 00:09:44,220 negotiating. And then at the end of the day, we you know, 155 00:09:44,220 --> 00:09:48,360 everyone has to pay a $50,000 membership fee to be in the club 156 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:53,520 of the IAB. And by the way, I I have no problem with with with 157 00:09:53,550 --> 00:09:59,100 IAB or anything if in case there was ever any, any confusion. I 158 00:09:59,100 --> 00:10:01,080 really don't know enough about Alright, I understand the 159 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,100 concept. Now I know a lot more. Wow, this is great and that they 160 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,070 everyone, you can have IAB certified numbers and still have 161 00:10:08,340 --> 00:10:12,150 different numbers from podcast host the podcast host. Well, 162 00:10:12,810 --> 00:10:19,380 this is all of the the the whitelist, the black lists, the 163 00:10:22,890 --> 00:10:28,170 amazing what they have gone through in a closed system. 164 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,460 Really it's been that must have been very painful to put that 165 00:10:32,460 --> 00:10:37,800 together and it shows and I don't know about you, but I got 166 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,340 the feeling that even though I don't think that's it's 167 00:10:41,340 --> 00:10:44,340 certainly not my plan. But you know John Spurlock's plan, I 168 00:10:44,340 --> 00:10:47,310 don't know, I don't know what anyone's plan is. I don't really 169 00:10:47,310 --> 00:10:51,960 care. But it felt like oh, wait a minute, because even Cridland 170 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,570 said, Well, you know, if they can get some IAB certification, 171 00:10:54,750 --> 00:10:59,430 I don't think it was set up with with that in mind. This is just 172 00:10:59,430 --> 00:11:03,030 a data service that, you know, you can muck around with. And if 173 00:11:03,030 --> 00:11:05,640 you want, I guess you can put together stats package, you 174 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,250 know, or something I did I misinterpret what this thing is 175 00:11:08,250 --> 00:11:12,540 for. is a platform for development, right? If someone 176 00:11:12,540 --> 00:11:16,380 wants to create a stat servers, they can do some PRs and put 177 00:11:16,380 --> 00:11:19,920 together a stat service. Is that my understanding? Is that 178 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:20,460 correct? 179 00:11:23,370 --> 00:11:28,620 I think, you know, I don't know what's in Spurlock's head. I 180 00:11:28,620 --> 00:11:30,540 know why I was excited about it. 181 00:11:33,029 --> 00:11:37,289 Will Tell me what you were excited about. Were on the doll 182 00:11:37,289 --> 00:11:40,499 that excites you. you point that out? 183 00:11:40,799 --> 00:11:41,729 Right in the front. 184 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:43,710 Row, right there. 185 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:50,100 Right there. I don't like I don't want the index, or 186 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:52,920 podcasting 2.0 or anything like that in the stats business. 187 00:11:52,919 --> 00:11:54,269 Oh, no more. 188 00:11:54,270 --> 00:11:58,770 I don't think anybody really wants that. I mean, that's, it's 189 00:11:58,770 --> 00:12:02,070 just there's too much. It's too icky. Nikki, 190 00:12:03,150 --> 00:12:05,520 I'm not. I'm also not really interested in it. 191 00:12:05,970 --> 00:12:09,990 I don't care. I did homework, by the way. I did. I did homework, 192 00:12:09,990 --> 00:12:12,120 and I calculated every PM. 193 00:12:12,330 --> 00:12:15,630 Well, thank you. I come up with about 120. What did you come up 194 00:12:15,630 --> 00:12:15,900 with? 195 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:26,310 I came up with, I can look him up with ad on one. But I think 196 00:12:26,490 --> 00:12:29,310 and I'll tell you my methodology in a minute. We can compare 197 00:12:29,310 --> 00:12:32,550 methodology? Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'll show you mine. If you 198 00:12:32,550 --> 00:12:36,000 show me your round the front baby. Read the front. The front. 199 00:12:36,420 --> 00:12:40,260 I trust. As I want to say this, like, after listening to Todd. I 200 00:12:40,260 --> 00:12:44,490 mean, I definitely. You know, we know these guys from the hosting 201 00:12:44,490 --> 00:12:46,110 companies and I trust 202 00:12:46,770 --> 00:12:49,920 under yours. Yeah. I trust 203 00:12:49,919 --> 00:12:55,739 their numbers. I don't like if there's any. I would never say 204 00:12:55,739 --> 00:13:00,899 that. I don't trust the download stats from you know, blueberry, 205 00:13:01,289 --> 00:13:02,909 or Buzzsprout. Or RSS. 206 00:13:02,909 --> 00:13:07,889 Let me put it this way. I have no distrust of what they're 207 00:13:07,889 --> 00:13:12,119 doing. None. When it comes to looking at my timeline of when 208 00:13:12,119 --> 00:13:15,779 people were listening and streaming SATs on the Saturn 209 00:13:16,019 --> 00:13:23,219 stat board from Albea. I have 100% confidence in that. Yes, 210 00:13:23,849 --> 00:13:25,439 they will. Here's your difference. 211 00:13:26,309 --> 00:13:29,729 I don't. So I don't think any of those. I don't think that any of 212 00:13:29,729 --> 00:13:34,379 them are doing anything shady. I know that I be he's like he's he 213 00:13:34,379 --> 00:13:37,439 mentioned he said, Well, you know, Phil, like that in the 214 00:13:37,439 --> 00:13:42,899 2.0. realm. There is general distrust of the I 215 00:13:44,070 --> 00:13:48,210 know, this. I think total, not caring. What does that word? 216 00:13:48,780 --> 00:13:50,880 Not? lethargy. 217 00:13:53,309 --> 00:13:55,079 There you go. Thank you. apathy. Sure. 218 00:13:55,500 --> 00:13:59,700 Yeah. So there's apathy. That should not be misinterpreted as 219 00:13:59,700 --> 00:14:03,840 distrust, really. But there is something there. And the 220 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,140 something I think is what Todd himself talked about, which is 221 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:13,110 he you know, he recounted how he was shocked. That pod track was 222 00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:16,530 able to get a B certification because their numbers were so 223 00:14:16,530 --> 00:14:20,100 different from his own. And he knows for a fact that his are 224 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:20,670 solid. 225 00:14:20,699 --> 00:14:23,279 Yeah, I'm sure they are. 226 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,690 That tells you that there's some and I'm not saying that that 227 00:14:27,690 --> 00:14:30,480 doesn't anybody's doing anything shady? Um, no, not at all 228 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,910 guidelines. And the Denley are so loose. 229 00:14:32,970 --> 00:14:35,400 Let's just put let's just let me just put it out there. This is 230 00:14:35,430 --> 00:14:38,730 this is how it felt. Without anyone saying it. This is just 231 00:14:38,730 --> 00:14:44,190 my interpretation. I am 58 have been around for a bit. And Dave 232 00:14:44,190 --> 00:14:47,190 and I have no real dog in the hunt, which is the beautiful 233 00:14:47,190 --> 00:14:50,430 part about this project doesn't matter one way or the other. You 234 00:14:50,430 --> 00:14:51,120 know, we're not gonna even 235 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,220 even know how many down I didn't even know how many downloads we 236 00:14:53,220 --> 00:14:54,990 had until like, exactly. And 237 00:14:54,990 --> 00:14:58,530 I didn't have an idea until you posted a screenshot I'm going 238 00:14:58,530 --> 00:15:03,570 off of a screenshot here but that's But the point is when 239 00:15:03,750 --> 00:15:08,430 when this showed up, it's the response sell to me a little bit 240 00:15:08,430 --> 00:15:12,240 like, hey, I really love these podcasting 2.0. Guys, I really 241 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,940 love value for value, but what what you're doing what will will 242 00:15:14,940 --> 00:15:17,280 will will, will, will will what? Who Oh, what are you doing over 243 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,070 there was that's what what's pumped the brakes, pump the 244 00:15:20,070 --> 00:15:23,430 brakes to porno boys. That's what it felt like. So I want to 245 00:15:23,430 --> 00:15:27,690 remove that fear because we have no interest in the business of 246 00:15:27,690 --> 00:15:33,090 stats or attribution or anything about that for me truly. I mean, 247 00:15:33,090 --> 00:15:36,150 I can, I can see all kinds of interesting reasons for it. But 248 00:15:36,150 --> 00:15:39,300 I just want to calculate a VPM. That's, and it doesn't matter 249 00:15:39,540 --> 00:15:43,080 what the numbers are. They're the number. That's, that's just 250 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,230 my number. And if that means there's bots in there, other 251 00:15:46,230 --> 00:15:49,320 than that's my number plus bots, but it's still the number, I'm 252 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,720 just going to use the same number, the and in fact, to 253 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,980 prove it that I don't care. And, um, this is also an ask at the 254 00:15:55,980 --> 00:15:59,880 same time, because if this screws up, it's a big pain in 255 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,660 the ass. It hurts me in many ways. I just like to put the 256 00:16:03,660 --> 00:16:06,930 next episode tomorrow as Sunday's episode of no agenda, I 257 00:16:06,930 --> 00:16:10,290 want to put that into the OP three and see what pops up. I'm 258 00:16:10,290 --> 00:16:14,730 interested. It may be it may be 40,000, it may be 400,000 may be 259 00:16:14,730 --> 00:16:18,000 4 million, I don't know, at the same time that ever would 260 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:24,450 divorce at first. I don't care, we don't care, we don't care. It 261 00:16:24,450 --> 00:16:27,420 doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. The only it doesn't 262 00:16:27,420 --> 00:16:32,550 matter. It's not going to change our income. Right? That makes no 263 00:16:32,550 --> 00:16:37,830 difference, it would be nice to know. And no matter what it is, 264 00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:40,380 if I don't like it, I can say well, you know, it's not a IIB 265 00:16:40,380 --> 00:16:44,460 certified. So it's a piece of Spurlock's little game over 266 00:16:44,460 --> 00:16:46,530 there. It's not for real man, we can't trust that shit. 267 00:16:46,860 --> 00:16:49,650 You need to put it, you put double Asterix on it. And then 268 00:16:49,650 --> 00:16:52,140 down at the bottom of the page. The double asterisk says with 269 00:16:52,140 --> 00:16:52,770 bots. 270 00:16:55,529 --> 00:16:59,759 I'm very interested in just what it is. I mean, it's the system 271 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:02,099 solid enough? Because it would be 272 00:17:02,789 --> 00:17:07,439 better be I mean, like I would I would imagine. So. I would 273 00:17:07,439 --> 00:17:09,989 imagine if you throw a million, you know, a million downloads on 274 00:17:09,989 --> 00:17:12,329 it, it would it should be able to handle it because they 275 00:17:12,329 --> 00:17:15,689 handle, you know, 3000 times that on a regular basis. 276 00:17:15,750 --> 00:17:18,180 But do you ever script where you can go count it for me? Because 277 00:17:18,180 --> 00:17:19,320 I don't have any tools? 278 00:17:19,620 --> 00:17:22,470 Yeah, I got some stuff now where I spent some estimate some time 279 00:17:22,470 --> 00:17:24,690 this week writing some code on that. And that's how that's how 280 00:17:24,690 --> 00:17:29,520 I'm able to calculate our VP that did to me that, like 281 00:17:29,550 --> 00:17:35,580 the fact that we could be a big show that shows some, you know, 282 00:17:35,850 --> 00:17:39,390 open numbers, open numbers, that's all it is just open 283 00:17:39,390 --> 00:17:42,930 numbers. It's like, it's funny, you say that we'll just talk it 284 00:17:42,930 --> 00:17:50,610 over with the vorak. We give the SEC, I'll just tell you the top 285 00:17:50,610 --> 00:17:57,990 24 donations from Thursday's show, ranging from $1,000 to 286 00:17:58,020 --> 00:18:04,980 200. And to 200. We read these people's notes, we gave the 287 00:18:04,980 --> 00:18:09,930 number, the amount. So anyone can sit there and calculate what 288 00:18:09,930 --> 00:18:12,960 we're making it. I'm proud of that. And I'm pretty sure that 289 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,350 people who support the show, we're also proud of it. So I'm 290 00:18:16,350 --> 00:18:19,620 very interested to see if my theory and so we have different 291 00:18:19,620 --> 00:18:22,470 numbers, I'd like to know what numbers you were working with my 292 00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:26,160 theory of the VPM that it holds true that actually when you have 293 00:18:26,190 --> 00:18:30,600 the smallest audience, when you wouldn't even qualify for 294 00:18:31,290 --> 00:18:38,730 dynamic ad insertion, you would you would have a much higher VPM 295 00:18:38,790 --> 00:18:43,170 and you would also actually be making money right away. So I 296 00:18:43,170 --> 00:18:47,430 came up with 120 because I think I saw a 1475 number of 297 00:18:47,430 --> 00:18:48,210 downloads. 298 00:18:49,860 --> 00:18:52,500 So I recalculated this morning, 299 00:18:52,530 --> 00:18:53,430 okay, all right. 300 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:59,010 I calculated do we want to run down do a runner. I was running 301 00:18:59,010 --> 00:18:59,250 down 302 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,120 let's go bring it down. Come on, man. Break it down. 303 00:19:04,020 --> 00:19:07,200 This is by the way, this is all very gross. And I don't like 304 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,050 doing any of this any of this stuff. This is 305 00:19:10,050 --> 00:19:12,720 beautiful. This is a cool exercise. I don't 306 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:19,230 ever want to do it again. So I here's the numbers. I worked on 307 00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:27,270 downloads, were 1514 Okay, for then and let me tell you where 308 00:19:27,270 --> 00:19:35,040 this number comes from. Well, number one 1514 downloads per 309 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,710 episode we are on monetizable what's the I was 310 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,630 quite monetizable. 311 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:50,730 So the I only counted unique IP hashes for a range or for rent 312 00:19:50,790 --> 00:19:56,880 as one download for for range requests and get requests and 313 00:19:57,450 --> 00:20:03,420 exclude it. So if somebody did In 27 range requests from the 314 00:20:03,420 --> 00:20:06,810 same IP hash. Kids just counted it as one. 315 00:20:07,050 --> 00:20:10,350 Okay. All right. So already, you're putting in rules. 316 00:20:10,710 --> 00:20:11,340 Yeah, yeah. 317 00:20:12,270 --> 00:20:15,150 This is what this is the whole point we can make our own rules. 318 00:20:16,620 --> 00:20:20,730 Or rules can be that we count Bots as Yeah, exactly as extra 319 00:20:20,730 --> 00:20:21,720 as bonus material. 320 00:20:22,380 --> 00:20:24,540 I'm not, I don't have to convince any advertiser with 321 00:20:24,540 --> 00:20:25,200 these things. 322 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:31,499 So did the downloads. And then I, and then I excluded any user 323 00:20:31,499 --> 00:20:38,579 agents that were, you know, not a known app. So just known apps 324 00:20:39,239 --> 00:20:45,059 with single counts per IP hash, which could be under counting or 325 00:20:45,059 --> 00:20:49,139 over counting, who knows? 1514 downloads. 326 00:20:49,260 --> 00:20:51,720 Okay, so you took your 4% from that number 327 00:20:52,050 --> 00:20:55,740 of episode 102. Now, I went further than this. I know I dug 328 00:20:55,740 --> 00:21:03,390 in deeper zaxy. So then, I went flipped over to do the boosts 329 00:21:03,540 --> 00:21:08,820 side of things, or to the to the SAT side boost. It figured out 330 00:21:09,330 --> 00:21:16,080 with six, four, and I only counted episode 102 streams and 331 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:24,120 boosts in SATs. So this does not include streams and boosts that 332 00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:29,280 we got for the episode when it was live. This is only meant to 333 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,300 match the download numbers. Check. Got it? Okay, 334 00:21:33,390 --> 00:21:38,670 this is good. Oh, you. Why was I even wasting my time? 335 00:21:39,900 --> 00:21:50,820 That comes out to 629,798 sads. From and that is from the that 336 00:21:50,820 --> 00:21:54,210 includes streams and booths, how much they again, how much 337 00:21:54,570 --> 00:22:03,480 629,798? Okay, so then I looked at how many individual donors 338 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,510 that represents because this is the all this is in the TLV 339 00:22:06,510 --> 00:22:17,790 record. individual donors unique donor names 89. So we had 1514 340 00:22:17,790 --> 00:22:28,740 downloads 629,798 SATs and 89 individual boost string boost 341 00:22:28,740 --> 00:22:37,320 slash streamers. That if you take that 1500 14 downloads as 342 00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:42,870 unique listens, which we know it's there's a bits gonna be in 343 00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:47,070 the ballpark, then you're talking about 89 listeners 344 00:22:47,070 --> 00:22:53,820 sending SATs back is 6%. So 66% of the people who downloaded the 345 00:22:53,820 --> 00:22:55,140 episode. Ah. 346 00:22:57,180 --> 00:23:01,290 Okay, so that's higher than the than the 4%. So already a win 347 00:23:01,290 --> 00:23:03,060 over the Fiat version. 348 00:23:03,450 --> 00:23:09,750 Yes, yes. Now, if this is my understanding of your VPM 349 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:15,090 calculation, so I went through this, I say I took the 629,798 350 00:23:15,090 --> 00:23:19,830 SATs and divided it by 15 114, which would have been the unique 351 00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:29,130 lessons. And that came out to 415.9 sets per download, which 352 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:39,960 would be 400 415,982 sets per 1000 downloads in US dollars, 353 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,860 and it comes out to $79 Z pm. 354 00:23:45,570 --> 00:23:49,140 I like it. I think that I think you had the you had all the 355 00:23:49,140 --> 00:23:52,320 right data. I was doing it on very, very broad numbers. 356 00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:59,520 Yeah, we, if we drop it to 4%, if we say 4% VPN, with those 357 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:04,440 same with that same rate, it comes down to $53 VPN. 358 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,670 Right. But we actually know the percentage that's something 359 00:24:08,820 --> 00:24:12,060 right that's that's always just kind of like a well, that was 360 00:24:12,060 --> 00:24:18,030 not from download data. See with no with no agenda I have data on 361 00:24:19,020 --> 00:24:22,440 we have a rough number of ideas of what we have a rough idea of 362 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,870 how many downloads we get, which should be interesting to see now 363 00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:29,310 versus the last time that we accidentally found out. You 364 00:24:29,310 --> 00:24:32,370 found out you found out hey, look at that. How did that work 365 00:24:32,370 --> 00:24:33,000 last time? 366 00:24:33,450 --> 00:24:36,150 Well, it was through the image art because you put in your 367 00:24:36,150 --> 00:24:39,870 image artists, so it has to it had to download that was back 368 00:24:39,870 --> 00:24:44,850 with Apple podcasts and had to download before they centralized 369 00:24:44,850 --> 00:24:49,560 feed aggregation. So whenever you would put a new image into 370 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,860 when we put it behind Cloudflare we put the images behind 371 00:24:52,860 --> 00:24:57,630 Cloudflare. And then so you would get it would tell you how 372 00:24:57,630 --> 00:25:01,200 many requests for that image were coming from Apple podcasts, 373 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,030 individual apps. So then you could take that and do the do 374 00:25:06,030 --> 00:25:08,550 the math there and get roughly, you know, million listeners, 375 00:25:09,780 --> 00:25:11,580 which I think it was at the time. I think it's higher than 376 00:25:11,580 --> 00:25:13,920 that now. But then, but then they missed that up when they 377 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,400 went to decentralize. So now individual, the individual 378 00:25:17,490 --> 00:25:19,110 mobile devices are downloading. 379 00:25:21,060 --> 00:25:23,850 And then you were picking up the stats, because at that point, 380 00:25:23,850 --> 00:25:26,130 somehow you had rigged it for me. So it was going through 381 00:25:26,130 --> 00:25:26,910 Cloudflare. 382 00:25:27,690 --> 00:25:29,490 Well, it was an accident because Yeah, 383 00:25:29,970 --> 00:25:32,700 exactly. That's the point I wanted to get to. I was an 384 00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:33,480 accident. Because 385 00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:38,160 yeah, because we put your put your show notes, aren't assets, 386 00:25:38,220 --> 00:25:42,750 pardon the audio clip assets onto a Linode and put it behind 387 00:25:42,750 --> 00:25:46,740 Cloudflare to get the caching. And then you up, you always 388 00:25:46,770 --> 00:25:52,440 uploaded the individual episode art, to, to, you know, for each 389 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,220 new show, you uploaded it to the asset server, which happened to 390 00:25:56,220 --> 00:25:58,620 be behind Cloudflare. And then we started seeing those stats 391 00:25:58,620 --> 00:26:00,660 backs again. And what 392 00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:01,740 was the number you saw? 393 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,140 Oh, no agenda. Yeah. 394 00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:08,130 It was right. It was right around a million for over a 395 00:26:08,130 --> 00:26:09,090 seven day period. 396 00:26:09,630 --> 00:26:12,600 For so for an episode or that two episodes. 397 00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:19,170 That was for like, the most recent couple of episodes. I 398 00:26:19,170 --> 00:26:21,840 think that's, that's total, because there's always people 399 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,350 that are behind and lagging behind. Yeah, I think I think 400 00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:27,870 that's it's been, it's been like a year and a half ago. So 401 00:26:28,980 --> 00:26:32,280 it's really interesting, because we have Thursday numbers, and we 402 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,850 have Sunday numbers. And you know, that Sunday is always 403 00:26:35,850 --> 00:26:38,640 lower, which I think is logical, because people don't typically 404 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,770 donate twice a week to a podcast many do, obviously. But also 405 00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:46,380 this rotates, you know, it's like, people will not donate for 406 00:26:46,380 --> 00:26:49,680 two months, and then they come back. And so it's the overall 407 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,430 percentage, the number of people who we know actually don't know 408 00:26:53,460 --> 00:26:56,220 what maybe we'll get somewhere with this. I'm very excited to 409 00:26:56,220 --> 00:26:57,750 try this. I think it was just do it. 410 00:26:58,380 --> 00:27:00,840 Did it do the mp3 dot dev on 411 00:27:01,260 --> 00:27:04,620 doing on Sunday's episode and see what happens. Now, if people 412 00:27:04,620 --> 00:27:07,230 can't get it? Or if it gets blocked or anything I'm gonna 413 00:27:07,230 --> 00:27:09,570 be, you know, I'm going to be excreted. 414 00:27:11,490 --> 00:27:14,880 Maybe Spurlock can chime he could verify, yeah, he 415 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,580 could clarify if we're good to go, then I'll just do it. 416 00:27:17,850 --> 00:27:20,640 Because that will be fun. And you have no agenda. I think it's 417 00:27:20,670 --> 00:27:24,540 I'm proud to be a part of an open and open project. Let's 418 00:27:24,540 --> 00:27:25,410 learn something. 419 00:27:25,860 --> 00:27:29,430 And that was my that was my thing is that, you know, 420 00:27:29,580 --> 00:27:35,250 there's, there's clearly a, because because Rob on that on 421 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,490 new media show seemed very befuddled by the fact that we're 422 00:27:38,490 --> 00:27:39,150 while we were even 423 00:27:39,150 --> 00:27:42,180 doing, and why are we even talking about it was I think was 424 00:27:42,180 --> 00:27:43,650 a bigger thing. Yeah. Yeah. 425 00:27:44,250 --> 00:27:48,420 And, and I think, I think it's because and we've talked about 426 00:27:48,420 --> 00:27:53,010 this before, bringing the open source mindset into podcasting. 427 00:27:53,250 --> 00:27:58,350 There's friction, there. It's not normal. People in podcasting 428 00:27:58,350 --> 00:28:03,750 are not used to, or not used to. I don't want to I don't want to 429 00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:06,300 sound this. I don't want this to sound too broad, because I don't 430 00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:09,510 mean it that way. But I'm really talking a lot about money and 431 00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:15,690 statistics. People within the podcast industrial complex, are 432 00:28:15,690 --> 00:28:19,950 not used to there being radical transparency around money in 433 00:28:19,950 --> 00:28:23,880 statistics. Right? I don't ever, you know, I don't think that's a 434 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,720 natural thing that everybody has become accustomed to, is there 435 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:34,710 is friction here. But there's clearly a is a set of people 436 00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:40,260 that jumped on this very quickly, us, James at pod news, 437 00:28:41,130 --> 00:28:46,890 transistor, Justin, and John over transistor, David Mitas. 438 00:28:47,340 --> 00:28:50,490 And there's a lot of people who are going to jump on this early 439 00:28:50,490 --> 00:28:52,380 because it's fun. 440 00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:55,530 As long as the transparency Yeah, it's fun. 441 00:28:55,860 --> 00:29:00,720 The openness is, is a sort of exhilarating thing like, like, I 442 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,480 mean, we talked about last week, I will end up putting this I'm 443 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,210 going to consider that I don't have to do math anymore. I'm 444 00:29:06,210 --> 00:29:10,260 going to end up putting that code together. And just I'll 445 00:29:10,260 --> 00:29:12,990 just push, I'll just make it public. I mean, Nord VPN will be 446 00:29:13,050 --> 00:29:16,650 like, yeah, constantly updated. Yeah, of course. It's like, I 447 00:29:16,650 --> 00:29:19,350 don't care people. I mean, people can listen to the show 448 00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:22,110 and hear how much money we get to the show. Yeah, why the hell 449 00:29:22,110 --> 00:29:24,210 did I care whether it's on a website or not? I mean, like, 450 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,420 but I don't think people are used to that in it. No, 451 00:29:27,420 --> 00:29:31,650 no, of course it does. But I remember in the 15th and we're 452 00:29:31,650 --> 00:29:35,790 coming up October 26 15 years no agenda almost coincides with 453 00:29:35,820 --> 00:29:40,470 episode 1500. But I remember early on, you know, when people 454 00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:43,830 like these guys, they're just a scam. It's a cult and making you 455 00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:47,010 send your money. Like we're really powerful with MK Ultra 456 00:29:47,010 --> 00:29:52,920 over here. You're and they were I think it was like no agenda. 457 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,390 numbers.com Let me see if it still exists. No agenda 458 00:29:57,450 --> 00:30:00,690 numbers.com This guy was so pissed. Look and how much money 459 00:30:00,690 --> 00:30:04,710 they're making. And no one cared. They were like, whatever. 460 00:30:05,070 --> 00:30:08,310 It because it's a good show that's like, yeah, I don't know 461 00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:11,070 if there's something's really this way we made this point with 462 00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:14,670 causality when John when John cIgi was on the show, if it's a 463 00:30:14,670 --> 00:30:17,250 really good show, I'm really happy to hear that they're 464 00:30:17,250 --> 00:30:19,590 making a lot of money because it means they won't go away. 465 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,320 Exactly. 466 00:30:23,970 --> 00:30:26,880 Because the last thing you want, if you're really love a show, is 467 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,380 for them to be struggling. Like, I don't want that. And 468 00:30:32,550 --> 00:30:36,840 it's, I've been doing your Tina's has been very helpful for 469 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,420 me this is, you know, she worked in nonprofits. So she 470 00:30:39,420 --> 00:30:44,220 understands a lot about gifting, donating and subsequently value 471 00:30:44,220 --> 00:30:46,950 for value time, talent, treasure I got from her. I totally stole 472 00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:47,250 that. 473 00:30:49,050 --> 00:30:52,260 Also, it's biblical. Yeah. So it's 474 00:30:52,260 --> 00:30:53,700 very pastor, Pastor. 475 00:30:55,050 --> 00:30:57,750 Yes, it was, it was funny, because I was talking to Texas 476 00:30:57,750 --> 00:31:01,920 slim. Yeah, he's, you know, I gave you his profile to me, you 477 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,850 don't have your ask down yet. And it's very difficult for him. 478 00:31:06,690 --> 00:31:09,840 Because this is not how he was a lot of people, right. And so I 479 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,840 helped him with an analogy of a barn raising, and that works for 480 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,860 him. But also I said, Man, you've seen so many pastors, you 481 00:31:16,860 --> 00:31:20,130 know how the pastor seamlessly transitions into the, hey, it's 482 00:31:20,130 --> 00:31:26,340 time to pony up. You'll get that way. But look at him. And it's 483 00:31:26,340 --> 00:31:29,220 not about why you have to give, just look at the ease at which 484 00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:32,610 the pastor transitions because the pastor is open and honest, 485 00:31:32,850 --> 00:31:36,150 and is saying, we need this help. You're not saying God is 486 00:31:36,150 --> 00:31:39,630 mad, but if you don't pay him, he's, you know, he's, this is 487 00:31:39,630 --> 00:31:41,580 for the church you're giving does this and you know, of 488 00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:43,980 course, churches typically do a lot of good things with with the 489 00:31:43,980 --> 00:31:47,340 money. But it's it just look at that. And that was very, very 490 00:31:47,340 --> 00:31:52,770 helpful to him. But I guess the whole point of value for value 491 00:31:52,770 --> 00:31:58,140 is so opposite. I mean, even, it's funny, I look at it, and I 492 00:31:58,140 --> 00:32:00,000 love where they're doing it fountain that and I think it's 493 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,720 really creative. But when I see a list of who's making the most 494 00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:09,960 Satoshis, it's like, that's, it's not so interesting. And I 495 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,570 know it inspires a lot of people, but personally, I'm 496 00:32:12,570 --> 00:32:16,560 like, that doesn't really matter. You know, the list is, 497 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,200 you know, okay, whatever. It's a list. It's a list here, that 498 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,420 could be another list over there, and everyone can have a 499 00:32:21,420 --> 00:32:25,860 list. People are so inspired by lists. But in reality, that's 500 00:32:25,860 --> 00:32:31,140 not what makes doesn't make anything flow. You know, our 501 00:32:31,170 --> 00:32:33,900 our, our board meeting, our weekly board meeting, we talk 502 00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:38,460 about the project. It's making it flow, and we're surviving. I 503 00:32:38,460 --> 00:32:41,940 mean, so what do we do a month we do about 1800 a month total 504 00:32:41,970 --> 00:32:46,770 with our with our very generous $500 A month Fiat donors. 505 00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:49,860 Yeah, if you add it all up together, it's just sounds about 506 00:32:49,860 --> 00:32:53,460 right at 1800 2000 was somewhere along those lines? It 507 00:32:53,460 --> 00:32:54,120 fluctuates. 508 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,870 Yeah, sometimes it's lower. Sometimes it's 16 1614. Or 14 To 509 00:32:57,870 --> 00:33:03,000 me, just depends on what's going on. But like those. Those 510 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,720 baseline PayPal donations, you know, pay all the bills and then 511 00:33:06,930 --> 00:33:12,540 the SATs are what fluctuates? Yeah, a lot. Yeah. Go ahead. 512 00:33:12,570 --> 00:33:16,590 No, absolutely. Bottom line is we get exactly what we deserve. 513 00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:20,730 This is what you get exactly what you deserve, what what we 514 00:33:20,730 --> 00:33:24,330 put into it, we get out of it, what you put into it, or 515 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,090 conversely, what you get out of it, you want to put back into 516 00:33:27,090 --> 00:33:31,110 it. It just it works. Anyway. So I was gonna say, we've been 517 00:33:31,140 --> 00:33:35,040 discussing all these different reasons why people donate. And 518 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,920 we've been asking people, I've been talking to people, and I'd 519 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:43,050 love to know why people support podcasting. 2.0 Because there's 520 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,810 eight basic kind of, you know, you have to go into philosophy 521 00:33:45,810 --> 00:33:49,200 for this. This is, you know, bunches, why is someone give 522 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,080 them besides, first of all podcasting 2.0 value for value, 523 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,320 we've removed almost all friction, which is the beauty. 524 00:33:55,470 --> 00:33:58,320 The beautiful thing is it's like you want to you want to support 525 00:33:58,350 --> 00:34:01,380 boom, you're good to go right there. No, literally a button is 526 00:34:01,380 --> 00:34:03,930 a button right there. I mean, that's, that's magic for it for 527 00:34:03,930 --> 00:34:07,860 any anyone trying to raise money for anything or, or or exchange 528 00:34:07,860 --> 00:34:14,190 value. People do it for social reasons. Now, this is your 529 00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:17,580 feedback loop. So that makes a lot of sense. People do it. 530 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,960 There's really a top three, the one that I liked the least which 531 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,770 is the most effective is what I just call the sad puppy roll. I 532 00:34:25,770 --> 00:34:30,960 mean, it is true. If if no one supports us, then the index goes 533 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,400 away. I mean, it's that simple, and boohoo won't that suck. So 534 00:34:35,730 --> 00:34:42,870 that is the most effective from all types of nonprofits is you 535 00:34:42,870 --> 00:34:45,810 know, it's like hey, if you don't give money, these kids and 536 00:34:45,810 --> 00:34:48,090 their families won't have a place to stay could be you one 537 00:34:48,090 --> 00:34:49,260 day and that's kind of 538 00:34:50,309 --> 00:34:54,839 the the American who was at the kennel club or whatever the AKC 539 00:34:54,839 --> 00:34:58,109 the what's the one with the pets where it shows all the horrible 540 00:34:58,109 --> 00:34:59,429 dogs being mistreated. 541 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,260 St. Peter, whatever. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. So there's 542 00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:07,440 that. But there's also well, that kind of flows into over to 543 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,550 the other one, which is it resonates. So something about 544 00:35:11,550 --> 00:35:14,820 the Ask something resonates with people, and they're motivated 545 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,710 for their own reasons, which could be, oh, man, you know, I 546 00:35:19,710 --> 00:35:22,110 wish when I was a kid, there was a resource where I could mess 547 00:35:22,110 --> 00:35:25,920 around and develop an app. And you know, it could be any any 548 00:35:26,370 --> 00:35:30,120 personal story. So these are the main the main reasons. 549 00:35:30,450 --> 00:35:32,910 Well, cotton, Jen said it reminds me It reminds me of the 550 00:35:32,910 --> 00:35:34,620 90s internet. That's why I love it. 551 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,130 Well, do you remember this openness? Do you remember 552 00:35:38,130 --> 00:35:41,100 shareware? I mean, the idea was right, but we didn't have the 553 00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:46,440 mechanisms in place. shareware involved you writing a check, 554 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,410 putting it in an envelope and sending it to somebody, you 555 00:35:49,410 --> 00:35:54,450 know, five bucks to say, thanks. I use your software, then. And a 556 00:35:54,450 --> 00:35:56,910 lot of a lot of people did very well with shareware. 557 00:35:57,300 --> 00:35:59,550 And now you talk about friction. Now that's some friction that's 558 00:35:59,550 --> 00:36:04,410 bigger than the you know, you gotta go get a stamp. Again, 559 00:36:04,410 --> 00:36:07,050 envelope you gotta read check. I mean, this. That's, that's 560 00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:10,410 that's the biggest friction. I mean, I think that the 561 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,000 rethinking of paradigms, just talking about OPC. 562 00:36:15,810 --> 00:36:19,830 Any sentence that starts with a rethinking of paradigms is just 563 00:36:19,860 --> 00:36:20,610 dynamite. 564 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:28,260 It's always valuable. We I mean, we may find, we may find it. I 565 00:36:28,260 --> 00:36:32,670 don't know, we may find this six months from now, that op three 566 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:39,900 wasn't, didn't produce a lot of value. You know, maybe it wasn't 567 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,970 that big of a deal. I tend to think that that's not going to 568 00:36:44,970 --> 00:36:47,940 be the case. But you know, we always think that about the 569 00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:51,030 stuff that we that we're involved in excited about. But 570 00:36:51,090 --> 00:36:53,640 you know, we may think this is not may ultimately may prove to 571 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,460 not be that that big of a deal. But that's what the mad 572 00:36:56,460 --> 00:36:59,850 scientist laboratory of podcasting. 2.0 is about? Yes, 573 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:04,290 exactly. Without trying to figure out crazy stuff, paradigm 574 00:37:04,290 --> 00:37:08,400 breaking things that challenge, the challenge, what's already 575 00:37:08,430 --> 00:37:13,050 been being done, and seeing if it has any value? And if it 576 00:37:13,050 --> 00:37:16,230 does, it'll bubble up. Yeah. And the cream rises to the top. If 577 00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:20,460 it doesn't, it'll go, you know, it'll, it'll fall away. And, you 578 00:37:20,460 --> 00:37:21,240 know, it may 579 00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:27,510 like cross app comments. Stop, I have a thought I never thought 580 00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:30,660 about that. I don't want to interrupt your flow, just 581 00:37:33,060 --> 00:37:37,050 so that, you know, it's the visibility. And to me, the power 582 00:37:37,050 --> 00:37:39,960 of the the thing that got me excited, the most about op 583 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:45,240 three, is the visibility outside of the bubble. Is Yeah, is 584 00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:51,420 having the numbers show up outside of, you know, your 585 00:37:51,420 --> 00:37:56,640 hosting dashboard, or whatever. Because then you can do things 586 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:03,510 like, as well, let me back up for a second. We know, or at 587 00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:06,570 least I hope we know. And I'm the I'm using the weed to 588 00:38:06,570 --> 00:38:13,290 include everybody. I hope we all know that. On a long enough time 589 00:38:13,290 --> 00:38:18,900 scale IP, IP addresses, as a source of information of 590 00:38:18,900 --> 00:38:21,540 reliable information about things that are going on is 591 00:38:21,540 --> 00:38:22,920 probably going to go away. 592 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,270 Yeah, I would say so. 593 00:38:25,619 --> 00:38:28,619 I mean, we've already you know, we've begun to see the very the 594 00:38:28,619 --> 00:38:33,809 the the infancy of this with Apple private relay, and that 595 00:38:33,809 --> 00:38:40,109 kind of thing. Tail scale. Yeah, exit nodes. Tore, every, there 596 00:38:40,109 --> 00:38:46,829 is a lot, there's a ton of, of mental pressure being applied 597 00:38:47,249 --> 00:38:53,219 across the open source world and not in and the proprietary world 598 00:38:53,219 --> 00:38:57,059 as well, with privacy, caring people. There's a lot of mental 599 00:38:57,059 --> 00:39:02,519 pressure being applied to how to get rid of IP addresses as a 600 00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:07,229 source of yucky information about people. And that's going 601 00:39:07,229 --> 00:39:14,039 to happen. So to me, the what I care mostly about op three is 602 00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:18,779 not just a retread of what has already been done. Even though I 603 00:39:18,779 --> 00:39:21,299 think it's valuable to have numbers in the open. I mean, 604 00:39:21,299 --> 00:39:26,759 that's what we're about. But combining it with the ULI D, to 605 00:39:26,759 --> 00:39:32,639 me, that is the ultimate goal. That that is the that is the 606 00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:37,379 ultimate goal. Ul ID again, is that's how that's where you 607 00:39:37,799 --> 00:39:42,029 create a random number. Your app creates a random number applies 608 00:39:42,029 --> 00:39:45,479 it to this episode. And anytime you listen to that episode, 609 00:39:45,479 --> 00:39:45,809 right, 610 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,900 then it attaches. Yeah. Right. So then we know that that's you 611 00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:49,650 picking it up. 612 00:39:49,950 --> 00:39:53,070 Yeah, we you know that every unique UL ID is a unique list. 613 00:39:53,310 --> 00:39:53,580 Right. 614 00:39:53,580 --> 00:39:58,560 So So what this does, is it inspires app developers to add 615 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,980 stuff like that add to the ecosystem so we have more fun. 616 00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:05,730 Yeah, right. Yes. This is the sandbox. 617 00:40:05,790 --> 00:40:11,670 Yeah. Can you is? Is this is OP three, does it? Is there a 618 00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:21,480 benefit with IPFS? I don't know. When not interesting because one 619 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,650 of the main problems that Cameron has told me about IPFS 620 00:40:25,650 --> 00:40:31,470 podcasting is if you go full IPFS protocol, IP address colon, 621 00:40:31,710 --> 00:40:36,690 slash slash instead of an exit node of the you lose all kind of 622 00:40:36,690 --> 00:40:40,770 trackability. Yeah, which makes sense, which makes sense. So you 623 00:40:40,770 --> 00:40:43,650 can't you can't do stats right now. He has download stats, 624 00:40:43,650 --> 00:40:47,640 which he gets from the network somehow. But if if you could use 625 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,100 this with IPFS with the protocol, 626 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:54,540 that's an interesting thing, because if you like my firt, 627 00:40:54,540 --> 00:40:58,410 your first your first instinct would be to say, Okay, we'll put 628 00:40:58,410 --> 00:41:02,880 it through a redirect. Yeah. OPI three redirect and then somehow 629 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,860 bounce it to IPFS born I'm handed 630 00:41:04,860 --> 00:41:06,210 IPFS redirect. 631 00:41:07,110 --> 00:41:09,090 Who and IPFS redirector. Yeah, 632 00:41:10,170 --> 00:41:15,960 that's what I'm talking about. Same idea for IPFS Oh, man, I 633 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,850 love it when your brain starts cranking. 634 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,490 The you know, the other thing I noticed was about the CPM VPN 635 00:41:26,490 --> 00:41:31,620 thing is if you look at so I pulled up advertised casts page 636 00:41:31,650 --> 00:41:36,390 about and they give the latest CPM rates. And their little 637 00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:43,680 chart here. Little chart shows one, it's got three, three rows, 638 00:41:43,740 --> 00:41:50,160 and it says this verse 62nd, ad CPN. Between 1009 between 639 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:58,500 1009 1999 listeners is $26 CPM. Hmm. Interest between 640 00:41:58,530 --> 00:42:08,220 10,090 9999 is 24 CPM. Oh, yeah. And 100,000 plus is $20. CPM. 641 00:42:08,970 --> 00:42:10,080 What is this? fuckery. 642 00:42:10,830 --> 00:42:14,430 So your CPM goes down, the more the more successful you are, 643 00:42:14,430 --> 00:42:16,800 what is this one? The more downloads you have? Does that 644 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:22,050 make sense? I don't know. Generally, but be just one CPM. 645 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:22,950 You 646 00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:27,180 know what the debt you know what the doesn't go down? VPN. 647 00:42:28,650 --> 00:42:32,490 No VPN does go down, the larger it has to go down, the larger 648 00:42:32,490 --> 00:42:33,420 your show is 649 00:42:33,570 --> 00:42:39,360 4% is 4% 4% of a million is four is 650 00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:42,270 right. You know, you know what we're gonna find out. So, 651 00:42:42,450 --> 00:42:45,630 alright. Okay, so I love this. So no agenda when I say it's 652 00:42:45,630 --> 00:42:51,510 like 30.1 or something? 30.5. But I don't but that's my old 653 00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:56,310 calculation. So I'll be very very curious to see. Now Now we 654 00:42:56,310 --> 00:42:59,100 can't do it one for one actually, because we don't have 655 00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:03,360 any any Bookstagram data. We only have Pay Pal data. But you 656 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,580 know what? Let's just do it. Let's just see what happens with 657 00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:08,640 an episode of the numbers itself and we'll check it out. 658 00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:11,639 I will provide I will provide the numbers to the to the 659 00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:15,389 shield. On op three. No, no, no, don't 660 00:43:15,390 --> 00:43:23,040 give any dough. No, no. No, no, no, don't don't involve anybody. 661 00:43:23,730 --> 00:43:26,040 Okay, this is supposed to be on the Qt 662 00:43:26,070 --> 00:43:29,910 bro. Okay, I will not provide the numbers to anybody. 663 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,280 No to me. Just tell me what numbers you see. 664 00:43:32,820 --> 00:43:36,810 I will I will get I will. I will send I will send one episode 665 00:43:36,810 --> 00:43:38,970 and one episode only. I don't want to get burned. I don't want 666 00:43:38,970 --> 00:43:41,670 to get caught everybody listening. Don't be a narc. 667 00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:42,870 Don't be a narc. 668 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,510 I will send you a paper airplane. With the numbers 669 00:43:48,510 --> 00:43:50,160 tucked discreetly. Yes. Interesting. 670 00:43:50,190 --> 00:43:52,920 Wow, man. The chat room was a punk. I'm a punk rocker here 671 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,490 this is come on man. 2.0 was punk rock GABA GABA. Hey, okay. 672 00:43:56,970 --> 00:44:01,350 Let's do it. So cross cross cross app comments I have on my 673 00:44:01,350 --> 00:44:04,410 list, because you're absolutely right is one of those things. 674 00:44:04,410 --> 00:44:08,850 It's just not. It's not working. It's not we don't have the spark 675 00:44:09,330 --> 00:44:15,660 in and I'll be honest, that when I look at comments that are 676 00:44:15,660 --> 00:44:19,350 working, that could be cross app today. I have to say the 677 00:44:19,350 --> 00:44:25,440 lightning comments work. Yeah, I was not a fan of it. And I'm 678 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:31,350 still not a fan of it. But I would rather have active people 679 00:44:31,350 --> 00:44:34,410 using Lightning comments, because what I see in Fountain 680 00:44:34,410 --> 00:44:41,490 is impressive. Now it's it screws up my my a helipad with 681 00:44:41,490 --> 00:44:45,120 all kinds of little things. But that's also kind of cool because 682 00:44:45,180 --> 00:44:48,120 Oh, someone's commenting over there. Then I'll pop over open 683 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,580 up the app. I'll go in I'll I'll reply. Maybe I'll give someone a 684 00:44:53,580 --> 00:44:57,150 little boost there. It's a very pleasurable way of interacting 685 00:44:57,150 --> 00:45:03,660 with the audience in a in an app it would be nice if it could be 686 00:45:03,660 --> 00:45:07,920 cross app and it seems like that's the easy part. So I'm 687 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,410 just identifying something that's working I'm not saying we 688 00:45:10,410 --> 00:45:13,620 all have to do that I'm just throwing it out there as I'm I 689 00:45:13,620 --> 00:45:17,910 am willing if there's enough steam to capitulate on this one 690 00:45:19,530 --> 00:45:22,680 I it's sad to me because we have such great infrastructure but 691 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,170 why is no one picking it up? What is happening? 692 00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:29,669 I have thoughts okay. The I think 693 00:45:29,669 --> 00:45:32,339 I'm not set in stone by the way this is not I'm just throwing it 694 00:45:32,339 --> 00:45:33,239 out there as usual. 695 00:45:33,989 --> 00:45:36,929 I think the reason why fountain come while the lightning 696 00:45:36,929 --> 00:45:41,819 comments are showing activity is not because I think it's purely 697 00:45:41,819 --> 00:45:47,669 because fountain gives monetary incentive for that to be the 698 00:45:47,669 --> 00:45:52,889 case. So they pay they pay you for listening and comment and 699 00:45:52,889 --> 00:45:53,519 boosting 700 00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:57,539 I'm not so sure when it comes to the commenting but I have no 701 00:45:57,539 --> 00:45:58,079 data 702 00:45:59,969 --> 00:46:02,939 okay, that's that's my understanding of it and then on 703 00:46:02,939 --> 00:46:07,319 the on the flip side my these are my these my initial first 704 00:46:07,319 --> 00:46:08,909 thoughts I didn't know you're going in this direction so I 705 00:46:08,909 --> 00:46:16,019 hadn't in my thought on the flip side is the reason people are 706 00:46:16,019 --> 00:46:25,139 not commenting on on non lightning is because nobody 707 00:46:25,139 --> 00:46:30,239 gives a crap about commenting generally speaking. And that is 708 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:37,979 ended the comments that we see about podcasts on thing things 709 00:46:37,979 --> 00:46:40,649 like Apple podcast reviews, if you want to call those a comment 710 00:46:40,649 --> 00:46:43,739 for the purpose of this discussion discussion are mostly 711 00:46:43,739 --> 00:46:49,049 because people beg them to do it in the show. Hey, Gil gives it 712 00:46:49,289 --> 00:46:51,389 gives a review. It helps 713 00:46:51,540 --> 00:46:55,350 in I'm with you on that but I guess my point is, we have 714 00:46:55,350 --> 00:46:59,250 people commenting on these comment threads that we put as 715 00:46:59,250 --> 00:47:03,450 our because our base post in podcasting 2.0 I do it I know 716 00:47:03,450 --> 00:47:07,320 agenda. There's lots of comments in there. They don't serve us on 717 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,250 any app. People are just on the mastodon commenting back and 718 00:47:11,250 --> 00:47:15,000 forth. No one's even sucking that in and displaying it via 719 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:15,210 pod 720 00:47:15,210 --> 00:47:21,480 versus. And pod friend. Those are the two apps currently pod 721 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,950 verse pod verse shows the cross app comments every show, you can 722 00:47:25,950 --> 00:47:29,670 go and expand them on the on on the website and and in the app 723 00:47:29,670 --> 00:47:29,910 to. 724 00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:34,860 Okay, because I've really gotten into the pod verse app, so I'm 725 00:47:34,860 --> 00:47:37,200 surprised that I that I didn't see that. 726 00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:40,409 It's, I don't remember where it is 727 00:47:40,410 --> 00:47:44,070 on it right here. I'm gonna see. Okay, so you don't ever get to 728 00:47:44,070 --> 00:47:46,980 swiped or you got to swallow swipe. 729 00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:51,240 Maybe you can swipe left or something. 730 00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:52,470 That's if I don't like it. 731 00:47:57,690 --> 00:48:03,900 Stop, stop. Okay. Chapter chapters, clips, comments. I 732 00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:07,680 know where it is. I apologize. I apologize. Okay. Yeah. So that 733 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,520 so the obvious, yeah. Okay. So this is great. I like how it's 734 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,160 done. And like how it's implemented. I can't add to the 735 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:19,320 thread. So all it would take would be reply. Post, you know, 736 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:24,030 so it hasn't been? I mean, it leaves the pod verse app if you 737 00:48:24,030 --> 00:48:27,210 tap on it. So that's something it takes it to the to the to the 738 00:48:27,210 --> 00:48:31,470 core post. That's totally appreciated. We're so close yet. 739 00:48:31,470 --> 00:48:32,160 We're not there. 740 00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:34,679 Yeah, because it's hard. 741 00:48:34,980 --> 00:48:38,430 I know. It's hard. I'm just just saying, okay, hold on. I'm in 742 00:48:38,430 --> 00:48:44,400 prime and I'm impressed with POD verse overall. And I want to say 743 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,730 that I think it was a misunderstanding. It's a 744 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,960 technology early technology choice player issue is why pod 745 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,760 versus not doing per minute streaming SATs yet. James had 746 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,180 some questions about that. And I think that's in the works. It's 747 00:49:00,180 --> 00:49:03,390 not it's not because Mitch has decided that's just a sheet 748 00:49:03,390 --> 00:49:03,960 idea. 749 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,610 No, he's not he has not made that. 750 00:49:09,150 --> 00:49:12,630 Oh, and I do have to give James props because he said something 751 00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:14,970 very appropriate, which we do need to talk about briefly 752 00:49:14,970 --> 00:49:19,020 because we're gonna talk about music as well. Okay. I agree 753 00:49:19,020 --> 00:49:23,940 completely on legality. So if RSS blue or anyone else is 754 00:49:23,940 --> 00:49:30,030 offering music uploads to be flagged as music in the podcast 755 00:49:30,030 --> 00:49:35,040 index, and we hope you have an update on that. I agree that's a 756 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:40,050 very very dangerous thing to do see Spotify, who have just 757 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,710 opened up you know pirating of movies to their to their video 758 00:49:43,710 --> 00:49:46,290 service. I mean, it's who would have thought that would happen. 759 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:53,730 And the better idea is, you know, SoundCloud, they already 760 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,580 their members are already screened and cleared and 761 00:49:56,580 --> 00:50:00,660 there's, we know who has rights and registrations any existing 762 00:50:00,660 --> 00:50:05,370 music service that knows how to do that is a better bet than, 763 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,270 you know, stepping into it. Just like, Oh, this is cool and doing 764 00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:12,060 it because you're gonna get burned, you're probably gonna 765 00:50:12,060 --> 00:50:15,360 get burned. It's just gonna suck for you. It's gonna be a lot of 766 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,060 work. Unless that's your business plan and then you know, 767 00:50:18,090 --> 00:50:22,230 we will support you 100% But it's very is very, very 768 00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:25,470 dangerous venture to do that. 769 00:50:26,099 --> 00:50:28,889 I'll get questions about this. This is good, good discussion, 770 00:50:28,889 --> 00:50:34,589 because where I'm at right now is I've got the downloader 771 00:50:34,589 --> 00:50:40,469 working, that is downloading, it's slurping down. enclosures. 772 00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:43,890 Yes. What's it called again? slurpy slurpy, right. Yes, I 773 00:50:43,890 --> 00:50:45,000 love your names. 774 00:50:45,330 --> 00:50:51,810 It is it is slurping down enclosures. It's apt to produce 775 00:50:51,810 --> 00:50:56,640 like, get about 100 It's done like 180,000 so far. enclosures. 776 00:50:57,750 --> 00:51:01,650 It's about a day and a half I mean a terabyte and a half of 777 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:02,520 them all down 778 00:51:02,550 --> 00:51:04,470 it's actually downloading them all locally. 779 00:51:04,619 --> 00:51:08,159 Yeah, yes. That's right. It's so it's going through the with the 780 00:51:08,309 --> 00:51:13,679 latest weekly data, massive dump and downloading the last 781 00:51:13,679 --> 00:51:16,079 enclosure of each podcast 782 00:51:17,460 --> 00:51:20,190 Are you downloading the entire podcast universe? I don't 783 00:51:20,190 --> 00:51:22,770 understand I just saying download everything. 784 00:51:24,300 --> 00:51:28,260 Not entirely about half of the entire podcast universe. So 785 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,410 anchor is excluded because they don't allow music by policy. 786 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,520 Right? They only allow Top Gun and other brand new movies, 787 00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:39,510 movies. Yeah, but don't pirate music. 788 00:51:40,050 --> 00:51:46,110 Yeah. So they don't allow music. So we exclude them that takes 789 00:51:46,260 --> 00:51:50,040 you know, half the index away almost on automatically. Not 790 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:55,080 half but about a third. The take away Librivox just it's and 791 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,420 other ones that are just like clearly they're not going to 792 00:51:57,420 --> 00:52:01,110 have any music at all. So you take that all that away then you 793 00:52:01,110 --> 00:52:07,620 also filter out anything that is just an arbitrary limit of two 794 00:52:07,620 --> 00:52:10,650 hours or less is still I still alive I'm 795 00:52:10,650 --> 00:52:14,370 kidding. You do that with a head with a head or get request or 796 00:52:14,370 --> 00:52:16,860 something ahead request just to see the file length 797 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,010 now just looking at the duration because the duration duration of 798 00:52:20,010 --> 00:52:23,130 course is in there you already have the duration to the 799 00:52:23,130 --> 00:52:24,420 download to the massive dump 800 00:52:24,449 --> 00:52:27,599 we aren't we already have that we already have the don't we 801 00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:29,639 have duration data already for everything? 802 00:52:30,210 --> 00:52:34,830 Yeah. Yep some of the older some of the really really early stuff 803 00:52:35,070 --> 00:52:37,800 in duration is messed up it dumps 804 00:52:38,130 --> 00:52:42,000 they call them dumps big massive dumps said so many times I had 805 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:42,060 to 806 00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:44,789 Yeah, so as I was triggering you know 807 00:52:45,900 --> 00:52:46,890 I was late actually 808 00:52:47,610 --> 00:52:52,500 yes you were late so the the filtering out some of that stuff 809 00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:55,170 and I don't remember how many it came back with but it's 810 00:52:55,170 --> 00:52:59,520 downloading a mall is one at a time. Excuse me known to 2023 at 811 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,060 a time that's concurrent that's what Slurpees forest down 812 00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:06,360 leaving give it a number of things to download how many you 813 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:06,540 want 814 00:53:07,620 --> 00:53:11,760 we upgraded an extra $80 a month for for the head done that yet. 815 00:53:12,420 --> 00:53:14,100 Oh, that's for actual business. 816 00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:18,119 That's a real business or real podcast. This is just on my 817 00:53:18,119 --> 00:53:21,179 local computers. Jim, aka Peter on doing this. This is not even 818 00:53:21,179 --> 00:53:23,459 this is not on us. Oh good doing this from my house. How 819 00:53:23,460 --> 00:53:24,750 big is your hard drive? 820 00:53:25,710 --> 00:53:28,410 I've got it hooked up to a four terabyte drive. Okay, an 821 00:53:28,410 --> 00:53:34,200 external drive. Nice, sweet. So then we scuzzy drive is not a 822 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,990 scuzzy drive with frozen garden hose is not that I 823 00:53:36,989 --> 00:53:40,649 love that shit. Connect those were the clips. 824 00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:46,050 With you remember? LVM it was the real thing when the No, it 825 00:53:46,050 --> 00:53:50,580 was like scuzzy three I think I remember Apple talk. With 826 00:53:50,580 --> 00:53:51,990 terminators, you have to use terminators, 827 00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:53,640 no Terminator. No, no joy. 828 00:53:54,030 --> 00:54:00,930 Yeah, the whole network goes down wouldn't work. So the it's 829 00:54:00,930 --> 00:54:04,260 downloaded a bunch of stuff. It's downloaded. It's, it's 830 00:54:04,260 --> 00:54:08,430 downloaded a ton. And then there's this Python script that 831 00:54:08,430 --> 00:54:13,050 Alex has helped me tweak around on that will that actually does 832 00:54:13,050 --> 00:54:17,850 the analysis that looks and tell and looks at whether or not this 833 00:54:17,850 --> 00:54:24,150 is speech or music. Now, it's, it's not. It's not 100%? It's 834 00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:30,030 not even close. But in and I'll tell you that the times that it 835 00:54:30,030 --> 00:54:33,120 gets confused as when there's somebody with a bed of music 836 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:33,780 behind them, 837 00:54:34,650 --> 00:54:37,440 right, that's where it falls apart. Sure. And 838 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,680 there's actually a lot of those where it'll be 45 minute episode 839 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,080 of somebody talking and there's a bed behind him the entire 840 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,140 time and PR. Yeah, 841 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,660 there's some of that. There's also, if the audio is crappy 842 00:54:51,660 --> 00:54:55,950 enough. I think it gives us enough background 843 00:54:56,219 --> 00:54:57,929 to make it sound like it's a song 844 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:03,150 to make the waveform look like is music? Yeah, yeah. Wow. It's 845 00:55:03,330 --> 00:55:05,940 like I think it's just the background noise makes it look 846 00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:07,590 like it's continuous ways. 847 00:55:07,949 --> 00:55:12,299 No, this is what you need to remember Paul, you toy used to 848 00:55:12,299 --> 00:55:16,679 tell us how sphinx was being used in the Philippines, they 849 00:55:16,679 --> 00:55:22,019 will be used to train AI and machine learning. So that show, 850 00:55:22,049 --> 00:55:24,839 you know, you'd get your show picture and say, Is there a dog 851 00:55:24,839 --> 00:55:28,289 in this picture? Yes or no boom, you answer and then you get 10 852 00:55:28,289 --> 00:55:32,069 sets. Next picture. So when you don't want to do that, yeah, we 853 00:55:32,069 --> 00:55:35,279 have a version for that for this, like, Is this a real song? 854 00:55:35,969 --> 00:55:36,749 Yes, no, 855 00:55:37,380 --> 00:55:43,320 I want to do that, like, so what is doing is the python script is 856 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:49,380 running the analysis, using the GPU or the video card, running 857 00:55:49,380 --> 00:55:55,110 the analysis. And then if it thinks that is, if it thinks is 858 00:55:55,110 --> 00:55:59,700 there, there's an 80% or higher likelihood that it's music. It 859 00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:03,630 we'll just create an empty file with the name of the podcast 860 00:56:03,630 --> 00:56:06,420 index ID in a directory. 861 00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:09,750 Okay, so then hold music, right? So then you can go in and 862 00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:10,920 retrieve that, 863 00:56:11,369 --> 00:56:14,129 right? So when it's all said and done, we should have a big long 864 00:56:14,129 --> 00:56:22,739 list of, of all of the episodes of all of the podcast IDs that 865 00:56:22,739 --> 00:56:27,809 it thinks are music, podcasts, then we can wrap that up into 866 00:56:28,769 --> 00:56:33,959 some sort of, you know, script or something. And then we can 867 00:56:33,959 --> 00:56:38,099 crowdsource it, to say to have people actually listen to it, 868 00:56:38,519 --> 00:56:42,809 and say if it is indeed music, or just a false alarm. So the 869 00:56:42,839 --> 00:56:51,329 out of 46,997 podcast that it has analyzed for. It thinks 804 870 00:56:51,329 --> 00:56:52,889 of those are music podcasts. 871 00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:54,779 So that's about 6%. 872 00:56:55,530 --> 00:56:57,330 Is it? Is that what that is? No, I 873 00:56:57,330 --> 00:57:01,800 have no idea. I'm just throwing that out there as you like to 874 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:02,730 sound convincing. 875 00:57:03,930 --> 00:57:04,650 You did math. 876 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,760 I'm just throwing a number out. See if you had done the math. 877 00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:15,300 No. Like holy crap. Let's see. Four divided by can't even 878 00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:19,860 give you the stats, the dollar amount. I can think in dollars 879 00:57:19,890 --> 00:57:20,850 most of the time. 880 00:57:21,239 --> 00:57:25,979 Looks like this. Alright. 2% That's, that's pretty Yeah. 881 00:57:26,039 --> 00:57:27,599 Okay, well 1.7% All 882 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:33,000 right. So what's the next step in the procedure once once 883 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,290 you've once Slurpee has done its job then what? 884 00:57:37,830 --> 00:57:43,110 Well here here's an example and here's an example track so if 885 00:57:43,110 --> 00:57:49,470 you go to podcast index ID you know 44955 And there's a little 886 00:57:49,470 --> 00:57:52,620 bit I put a in the clips today if you got my clips I forgot. 887 00:57:52,740 --> 00:57:55,650 Oh, yes. Thank you got an example tracking Oh, here we go. 888 00:57:58,889 --> 00:58:06,509 Wow. Yeah. Sounds good. You know what that sounds like? Wow. Oh, 889 00:58:06,509 --> 00:58:10,889 my wife. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, no, I gotta do it. 890 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,560 You love the wife I've had loved the 891 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,990 Hawaii Five o thing where's my Hawaii Five 892 00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:18,690 Oh, you don't have it on a pad on the road test. 893 00:58:19,020 --> 00:58:20,550 I'm bad I'm not that bad here 894 00:58:40,110 --> 00:58:42,390 Okay, so that's that's a jam right there. 895 00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:46,950 It is a found that on that is from that is on PodOmatic 896 00:58:47,070 --> 00:58:50,430 hosting company and it is from 2013. So it's been there for 897 00:58:50,430 --> 00:58:51,720 nine years and this is 898 00:58:52,380 --> 00:58:56,580 why we should have done that properly. Yeah, that's the 899 00:58:56,580 --> 00:58:58,440 crusher from Briana Roy. 900 00:59:02,790 --> 00:59:06,540 53 second track. And there's three tracks on this podcast and 901 00:59:06,540 --> 00:59:10,710 they're all of this. They're all like this. It's an EP. It is 902 00:59:10,740 --> 00:59:11,550 it's an EP No, 903 00:59:12,300 --> 00:59:16,020 no dynamite good find flip the bit make it music. 904 00:59:17,250 --> 00:59:23,400 Brianna. We need to find Brianna give her a split. Yes. For him. 905 00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:28,830 So I don't know where he got him. them they didn't they so so 906 00:59:28,830 --> 00:59:33,480 here's the here's the kosher part. Like if they here's this 907 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,270 thing that's been out in the in the universe for nine years 908 00:59:36,420 --> 00:59:37,500 publicly on the internet. 909 00:59:38,699 --> 00:59:40,349 Yeah. How about 910 00:59:41,219 --> 00:59:45,869 Yeah, right. There's, it seems to be just some original dubstep 911 00:59:45,869 --> 00:59:46,349 something. 912 00:59:46,380 --> 00:59:47,400 It's a jam. I'm like, 913 00:59:49,170 --> 00:59:52,560 well, there's no iTunes owner tag. I have no idea how to get 914 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:57,750 in touch with Brianna. Rihanna, Roy. Have you know podcast rise 915 00:59:57,750 --> 01:00:01,170 and who have not Google for Brianna. 916 01:00:01,650 --> 01:00:05,700 Is there no link in the in the RSS feed? It just 917 01:00:05,700 --> 01:00:09,330 links back to the PodOmatic page and doesn't link to a personal 918 01:00:09,330 --> 01:00:15,450 side of anything. There's no podcast license tag 919 01:00:15,449 --> 01:00:19,559 or Rihanna ROI YouTube. Oh, there you go. Let's see brand. 920 01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:22,649 Let's see. Do you think that can't be the same? Brianna Roy, 921 01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:25,140 you take LinkedIn 922 01:00:26,849 --> 01:00:30,419 that's DeVore X jam and that's not me. Let's see. This. I don't 923 01:00:30,419 --> 01:00:32,129 think this is the same Brianna Roy. 924 01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:35,369 Does she do dubstep on Twitch? 925 01:00:37,770 --> 01:00:43,620 Go good. I am that. That may be no I don't think so. Now. 926 01:00:44,940 --> 01:00:45,600 Dubstep. Is 927 01:00:45,630 --> 01:00:47,340 there any lyrics with that thing? 928 01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:48,780 No. Okay, well, 929 01:00:48,780 --> 01:00:49,920 she she's a singer. 930 01:00:50,610 --> 01:00:55,080 Oh, boy. Don't maybe she upgraded. Doubt it. 931 01:00:57,060 --> 01:01:01,050 So, so what will so here's the question Where what are we left 932 01:01:01,050 --> 01:01:09,990 with with Brianna's tracks? Are they? If there's like what what 933 01:01:09,990 --> 01:01:13,590 legal status? If we want to if we want to take this and drop it 934 01:01:13,590 --> 01:01:19,020 in as in the show mix? What are what is that going to do? Like 935 01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:20,190 what how does that work? 936 01:01:20,220 --> 01:01:24,930 Right now we have no idea. We really couldn't do it because we 937 01:01:25,050 --> 01:01:27,810 legally you can't do it because we have no idea who owns the 938 01:01:27,810 --> 01:01:31,530 royalties rights, etc. If, if she would claim this and say 939 01:01:31,530 --> 01:01:34,770 yep, this is mine. This is my feed. And I warrant that this is 940 01:01:34,770 --> 01:01:39,780 my stuff. And here's my split. I would say at the one hour and 941 01:01:39,780 --> 01:01:43,800 two or one hour and one minute mark, there would be a split 942 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,700 there which would send off a significant portion of the show 943 01:01:47,700 --> 01:01:52,830 to Briana Roy's wallet. That's what I'm that's what I envision. 944 01:01:54,270 --> 01:01:56,430 Yeah, like split in the chapter maybe? 945 01:01:56,639 --> 01:01:59,159 Yeah, I mean, we haven't quite figured it out. But that's the 946 01:01:59,159 --> 01:02:03,179 dream. Right now. We we need to find Brianna Roy. That's the 947 01:02:03,179 --> 01:02:05,639 title right there. Show. Find. 948 01:02:06,060 --> 01:02:07,020 Brianna. I'm 949 01:02:07,020 --> 01:02:11,250 Brianna Roy. I'm making I'm doing it. That's hilarious. How 950 01:02:11,250 --> 01:02:16,470 about or where is Brianna? Roy? Brianna? Okay, where's Brianna? 951 01:02:16,530 --> 01:02:19,320 That's better. Good. I love a great title. 952 01:02:19,890 --> 01:02:23,700 Yeah, so like I bet you there's tons of these. 953 01:02:24,119 --> 01:02:27,119 Yeah. So I don't I don't know what to do about that. I don't 954 01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:31,649 know what to do about it. Other than make it available as a 955 01:02:31,649 --> 01:02:37,289 music track in in apps that wants to show that in? No case 956 01:02:37,289 --> 01:02:43,649 the roster I guess. At least we have a nice base to start with. 957 01:02:44,940 --> 01:02:48,090 There's also one is this one this is a wrote down 958 01:02:48,090 --> 01:02:50,490 469-914-6991 959 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,450 And it's brianna is Brian A it's br A and A maybe it's Brian 960 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,490 Brian A Roy who knows. 961 01:02:57,510 --> 01:03:02,310 This is another one there's a podcast. index.org/podcasts like 962 01:03:02,310 --> 01:03:08,190 46991 Do I feel like this is an unless you want to that's 963 01:03:08,190 --> 01:03:13,020 another just as another example of a music feed that that this 964 01:03:13,020 --> 01:03:16,530 thing found. And that is from 965 01:03:16,740 --> 01:03:19,500 what what was it? I'm sorry, what was the number again? 966 01:03:19,650 --> 01:03:23,940 The podcast ID is 46991469 or 967 01:03:23,940 --> 01:03:28,350 nine or one? LB keeps pop? I find myself having to log into 968 01:03:28,350 --> 01:03:29,400 lb a lot. 969 01:03:29,730 --> 01:03:31,020 Me too. Using a little 970 01:03:31,020 --> 01:03:45,840 annoying a little a little much dude, I'm liking it. What is 971 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:59,430 this? Testing 2.0 2.0 Dynamite 972 01:03:59,940 --> 01:04:00,840 because of that stuff, 973 01:04:00,870 --> 01:04:03,810 so that yeah, lots of DJ mixes and stuff. Sure. You know, I 974 01:04:03,810 --> 01:04:11,730 just had a meeting today with the owner of 100% retro and 100% 975 01:04:11,730 --> 01:04:15,270 Retro is a streaming radio station from the Netherlands. 976 01:04:15,780 --> 01:04:21,690 Belgium to be exact. And I'll play it for you. So they're 24/7 977 01:04:21,690 --> 01:04:26,040 they have this guy's pretty he's hired Kim Wilde and all kinds of 978 01:04:26,070 --> 01:04:29,670 legacy people to talk and it's basically let me say and they 979 01:04:29,670 --> 01:04:36,630 have a whole that's what I was put you know, there's it's it's 980 01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:46,950 retro it's a Dutch station. That's all English was. Its 981 01:04:46,950 --> 01:04:51,270 international languages as the clock moves around the globe. 982 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,140 They get clever. Yeah. And so he's like, I want you I want to 983 01:04:55,140 --> 01:04:58,590 be on the live stream today. Okay, send me some promos. You 984 01:04:58,590 --> 01:05:02,340 know, so the The feed will be filled up with highs as Kim 985 01:05:02,340 --> 01:05:06,240 Wilde, whatever, listen to my show, and then it'll be 986 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:12,480 continuously lit. That's a 24 hour stream. So and we'll flip 987 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,680 the music tag the medium tag to music. So when you're in a music 988 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,550 app and you're going through the album's you'll see 100% retro 989 01:05:20,550 --> 01:05:22,830 and you'll click on it and you can listen live or listen to 990 01:05:22,830 --> 01:05:24,780 whatever else they're going to put into that feed. 991 01:05:25,710 --> 01:05:27,720 Oh, yeah, this has got Darren Oh, written all over it. 992 01:05:27,719 --> 01:05:31,289 I totally. Oh, totally. Exactly. 993 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:36,330 Did you hear Todd on the new media show say that he had set 994 01:05:36,330 --> 01:05:38,640 up an audio, and I'd 995 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,750 be willing to share it. I love that that was great. 996 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,260 Well, then it shouldn't there be in that scenario, should there 997 01:05:46,260 --> 01:05:46,950 not be 998 01:05:47,010 --> 01:05:48,900 a split, split? 999 01:05:50,099 --> 01:05:51,779 Or split? Of course, 1000 01:05:52,350 --> 01:05:55,680 like I'm gonna pay, I'm gonna pay you a little bit in order to 1001 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,150 you to rent your stream 1002 01:05:57,180 --> 01:05:59,940 for a little bit. Right. But I mean, that that can also just be 1003 01:05:59,940 --> 01:06:03,780 I mean, the simple sneakernet version is hey, man, let me use 1004 01:06:03,780 --> 01:06:07,200 your stream. And I'm going to put you in the value block for 1005 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:11,250 the Live episode for the lit. Yeah. Totes. Totes McGoats I 1006 01:06:11,250 --> 01:06:15,390 can't believe you said that, shall we? Shall we thank a few 1007 01:06:15,390 --> 01:06:18,300 people who have sent been sent diligently sending comments 1008 01:06:18,300 --> 01:06:21,900 feedback in the form of booster Graham's first show. I think 1009 01:06:21,900 --> 01:06:28,050 it's time now Chimp, by the way, is no slouch. Chimp comes in 1010 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:36,990 just seven seconds ago. With 92,422 Satoshis Thank you. Yo, 1011 01:06:37,020 --> 01:06:41,970 join chimp and Captain brunch on Saturday night lit 20 ESP. The 1012 01:06:41,970 --> 01:06:45,030 newest lit V for V show to hit the wave starts this Saturday, 1013 01:06:45,030 --> 01:06:47,550 big shout out to Steven B and sovereign fees for making it 1014 01:06:47,550 --> 01:06:48,150 possible. 1015 01:06:48,660 --> 01:06:50,640 So there's a promo last night 1016 01:06:50,639 --> 01:06:54,179 yeah, so I saw that the chimp the chimp lit thing was going 1017 01:06:54,179 --> 01:06:55,859 on. I haven't tuned in yet though. 1018 01:06:56,310 --> 01:07:01,080 99,099 from G of the Midwest. Sometimes pod verse crashes when 1019 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,260 I boost but overall, it's my favorite PC 2.0 compliant app 1020 01:07:04,260 --> 01:07:07,980 for streaming the SATs. Blueberry with a row of sticks 1021 01:07:07,980 --> 01:07:13,470 11,111 To answer Adams question, I like supporting podcasting 2.0 1022 01:07:13,470 --> 01:07:16,410 Because it is the punk rock thing to do. And it'll piss your 1023 01:07:16,410 --> 01:07:22,170 nanny state off. Being a part of the stay while album and seeing 1024 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:26,160 it release. It felt like a first victory against the New World 1025 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:32,190 Order. The future so lit you're gonna need 3d glasses. Like it's 1026 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:38,790 like 10,101 So one a one a one from zombie slave must send 1027 01:07:38,850 --> 01:07:49,110 boost. Receive Bucha boost 555 from yell dar Hi, Adam and Dave. 1028 01:07:49,110 --> 01:07:53,370 This is Yelder a podcast from Kazakhstan. I'm boosting you. I 1029 01:07:53,370 --> 01:07:59,520 have great news. I started a podcast today. We have great 1030 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:05,280 news over the transom from Kazakhstan from Kazakhstan. All 1031 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:10,800 right. So what is a yeld? RC? I have great news. I've started a 1032 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,290 podcast with the aim of protecting distributing 1033 01:08:13,290 --> 01:08:17,580 developing podcasting in Kazakhstan. Hello. Nice. On this 1034 01:08:17,580 --> 01:08:20,880 occasion I have a favorite task. Could you record a welcome 1035 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,310 speech to my listeners for a couple of seconds please that 1036 01:08:23,340 --> 01:08:29,100 the name of the podcast name is Quoz podcast QA Z. Thank you in 1037 01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:33,420 advance go podcasting. Okay, so QA Z pa Do you think it'd be 1038 01:08:33,540 --> 01:08:37,650 Quoz? Or cause I don't want to mess it up and I don't want to 1039 01:08:37,650 --> 01:08:41,010 give them a bad a bad example. 1040 01:08:41,369 --> 01:08:45,389 Google Translate. Does it go from Kazzak to 1041 01:08:46,260 --> 01:08:50,280 Yeah, can you just que ese he would any Kazakhstan's 1042 01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:56,430 and here we go. Here we go. Kazzak. que ese gas gas is what 1043 01:08:56,430 --> 01:08:56,790 attracts 1044 01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:02,340 gas. Gas gas. Well, it makes sense to have a gas podcast in 1045 01:09:02,340 --> 01:09:07,590 Kazakhstan. Let's see. Oh, man, that's really rich gas. Gas. 1046 01:09:07,620 --> 01:09:08,640 Like like gas, I 1047 01:09:08,669 --> 01:09:11,819 guess. So I guess it's just I'll throw 1048 01:09:11,820 --> 01:09:13,320 a little cosmic accent on it. 1049 01:09:14,580 --> 01:09:16,410 A little more often. They're a little boring. I'll 1050 01:09:16,409 --> 01:09:19,619 be fine. It's universal. 1051 01:09:19,980 --> 01:09:21,090 I think we should do you like 1052 01:09:22,650 --> 01:09:25,590 I say I'll say hey, I'm Adam curry the pod father you say hi 1053 01:09:25,590 --> 01:09:29,520 as Dave Jones the pod sage. Let's do it really hokey. And 1054 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:34,380 then I'll finish it up. It'll be fun. It's ready. Yep. Hi 1055 01:09:34,380 --> 01:09:37,260 everybody there in Kazakhstan. My name is Adam curry also known 1056 01:09:37,290 --> 01:09:38,400 as the pod father. 1057 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,950 In this is Dave Jones the pod sage 1058 01:09:40,980 --> 01:09:44,790 we want to welcome you to the brand new podcasting 2.0 1059 01:09:44,790 --> 01:09:54,600 initiative in Kazakhstan Gods podcast all the way that sounds 1060 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:55,290 professional 1061 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:56,370 epic. Epic. 1062 01:09:57,150 --> 01:10:00,600 That's, that's straight. That's straight voiceover work. If we 1063 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:01,590 didn't get paid for that, 1064 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:06,450 pay two or 50,000 pops right in go podcast and podcast. Thank 1065 01:10:06,450 --> 01:10:11,940 you Patreon. Appreciate that. 10,000 Eric PP no boost 1066 01:10:11,940 --> 01:10:18,270 otherwise we got to 19,760 SATs. That would be a 1976 1067 01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:22,980 Bicentennial boost times 10 from the dirty Jersey horror podcast. 1068 01:10:24,390 --> 01:10:25,890 I met the dirty Jersey whore. 1069 01:10:26,250 --> 01:10:27,660 No you didn't I did he was 1070 01:10:27,660 --> 01:10:31,410 at the beach. He came to the beef initiative in in Bluffton, 1071 01:10:31,410 --> 01:10:39,960 Georgia was the dirty very dirty he's he's about six five, you 1072 01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:45,030 know has about 40 pounds on me. Big beard. Yeah, it was a really 1073 01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:50,070 nice guy. big burly fun guy. That total Jersey whore. Yeah, 1074 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:54,330 of course. That's what all our horse look like. On the bar. 1075 01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:59,550 That's right, right on the tin. 6969 from blueberry boosts 1076 01:10:59,550 --> 01:11:02,760 harder he says thank you message received love that Harv had one 1077 01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:08,070 on one to one. Another blueberry 36969 Where's the boost? That 1078 01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:10,500 was supposed to be an earth shattering boost? All right, 1079 01:11:10,500 --> 01:11:18,270 man. Boobies blueberries just high here. 3333 and 1080 01:11:18,270 --> 01:11:24,000 permissionless. Milkshakes. Okay. lyceum. 2222. High again, 1081 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,430 international podcast day is the right name of the event 1082 01:11:26,430 --> 01:11:30,660 September 30. David Lee sorry for the misspelling I wonder if 1083 01:11:30,660 --> 01:11:33,570 I have the ducks in a row next Friday. Best premises Martin 1084 01:11:33,570 --> 01:11:40,200 Linda's koge. Martin is up to something there. Oh, man, but 1085 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,830 does he have a whole guest another here this is this 1086 01:11:43,830 --> 01:11:46,050 complicated? What are you trying to something? Well, 1087 01:11:46,050 --> 01:11:48,690 international podcasting day apparently is on September 30. 1088 01:11:49,530 --> 01:11:55,560 And when we see is that I think that we've got all the pre the 1089 01:11:55,560 --> 01:12:00,360 pre show booths out of the way. Thank you all very much. You are 1090 01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:04,050 part of our very coveted VPM. And soon we'll learn more about 1091 01:12:04,050 --> 01:12:06,210 that. Yes. Thank you for being a 1092 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,280 VP VP M algorithm. 1093 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,950 Thank you for being a number. Yes, coming. Yes, 1094 01:12:10,950 --> 01:12:12,510 was gross. I hate this stuff. 1095 01:12:12,810 --> 01:12:15,870 Now I know I really dig it. I'm very excited. I'm very excited 1096 01:12:15,870 --> 01:12:20,520 to learn just learning more. And now obviously, I see that it 1097 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,890 could be that people come together and say, Hey, we like 1098 01:12:22,890 --> 01:12:24,960 this rule or the here's our whitelist or here's our 1099 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,780 blacklist, and they put all together in open fashion. And 1100 01:12:27,780 --> 01:12:30,330 they come up with something that, you know, that works for 1101 01:12:30,330 --> 01:12:31,200 their system. 1102 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:36,150 I don't you know, I don't like the math. I don't like the math 1103 01:12:36,150 --> 01:12:40,860 behind it. It's not just that I don't like math. It's that I 1104 01:12:40,860 --> 01:12:46,920 think the math is is inherently flawed because the bigger so, 1105 01:12:47,220 --> 01:12:51,390 you know, we talked about this with the podcast consultants who 1106 01:12:51,390 --> 01:12:53,940 say okay, well, you have this many downloads. And here's the 1107 01:12:53,940 --> 01:12:59,670 current CPM rate. And if you increase your downloads by this 1108 01:12:59,670 --> 01:13:02,400 and your engagement percentage by this, and here's the formula, 1109 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,530 and this is how much money you're gonna make. And that's, 1110 01:13:04,830 --> 01:13:10,620 that's a complete BS, play it because in this is what's in my 1111 01:13:10,620 --> 01:13:14,700 opinion, in my opinion, this is what is going to happen with 1112 01:13:14,700 --> 01:13:20,190 programmatic. The more by its very nature of supply and demand 1113 01:13:20,370 --> 01:13:25,920 by economic law, the more people who enable programmatic the 1114 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,230 lower the rates are gonna get absolutely 1115 01:13:29,070 --> 01:13:32,070 no, no, go ahead. Go ahead. I have something to add to that in 1116 01:13:32,070 --> 01:13:32,370 a minute. 1117 01:13:32,489 --> 01:13:36,449 Okay, it's as you if there's 5000 podcasters right now who 1118 01:13:36,449 --> 01:13:41,039 hasn't programmatic turned down? If two years from now there's 1119 01:13:41,759 --> 01:13:45,869 200,000 that have it turned on your rates are gonna go through 1120 01:13:45,869 --> 01:13:50,669 the floor? Kinda everybody's gonna make less money Yeah. Now 1121 01:13:50,669 --> 01:13:53,609 bill rates are gonna go down the down the crapper, everything is 1122 01:13:53,609 --> 01:13:54,839 gonna, it's gonna fall apart. 1123 01:13:56,130 --> 01:13:59,220 I don't know. I think the fill rates are pretty open as it was. 1124 01:13:59,250 --> 01:14:03,690 It was really odd because both pod land pod line does mid rolls 1125 01:14:03,690 --> 01:14:09,840 from Buzzsprout. And blueberry. They were they with who does 1126 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,440 blueberry have doing their their dynamic ad insertion? 1127 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,430 Sound stack? Does that sound right? 1128 01:14:18,180 --> 01:14:21,360 I think I wrote it down here. Yes. Sounds good. Yeah, there's 1129 01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,970 sound stack and advertised cast. Those are kind of the two 1130 01:14:23,970 --> 01:14:29,790 players I believe. So now I've been receiving whenever I 1131 01:14:29,790 --> 01:14:34,500 started the new media show an ad for nice and ice.com. Not quite 1132 01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:38,220 sure what they do is not appropriate for me. It's okay, 1133 01:14:38,250 --> 01:14:42,210 they're short. Now, they're really kind of non intrusive. 1134 01:14:42,210 --> 01:14:46,230 They're almost like very short radio ads, which is kind of the 1135 01:14:46,230 --> 01:14:50,310 problem that I had with it. Because the one that I got today 1136 01:14:50,310 --> 01:14:54,180 as I was listening was for a promotion for hepatitis C 1137 01:14:54,180 --> 01:14:59,700 vaccination. Oh. Which, which, by the way, you know, that's 1138 01:14:59,700 --> 01:15:02,250 foreign. My money. That's pretty good. I mean, that's that's 1139 01:15:02,250 --> 01:15:06,060 impressive. That's that that's advertising out there. But it 1140 01:15:06,060 --> 01:15:12,060 took me to a place that I wasn't prepared for. I was ready for 1141 01:15:13,140 --> 01:15:20,520 laughter known to lie. Taught and wrote morning, in the 1142 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:26,520 afternoon, then and I got to know, are you? Are you seething 1143 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:27,690 with hepatitis C? 1144 01:15:29,670 --> 01:15:31,380 Bones coming out of your nose? 1145 01:15:33,540 --> 01:15:36,090 No, of course you don't, because you're gonna get vaccinated with 1146 01:15:36,090 --> 01:15:40,170 his Hep C vaccine. So it was just jarring. That's all. 1147 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:46,740 But I, what I was going to add to this as we I received our 1148 01:15:46,740 --> 01:15:49,260 podcast evaluation for no agenda. 1149 01:15:51,630 --> 01:15:56,940 Oh, pencast broker for the sale. Your pocket.com? 1150 01:15:56,940 --> 01:15:58,680 Yes, yes. What was the wait? 1151 01:15:58,710 --> 01:15:59,610 Can you share it? 1152 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,200 I'm going to absolutely. 1153 01:16:03,210 --> 01:16:05,100 I'm all ears. I'm on my toes. So 1154 01:16:05,130 --> 01:16:09,210 podcasts broker.com I really liked this concept. You can say, 1155 01:16:09,210 --> 01:16:13,650 hey, I'm tired. And believe me. DeVore. I've mentioned these 1156 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,470 numbers on no agendas at work. And I retired. Yeah, we're 1157 01:16:16,470 --> 01:16:19,050 tired, man. Should we punch out? Yeah, we can sell this thing. 1158 01:16:19,050 --> 01:16:24,510 Really? Yeah. Apparently we can. Now the podcast broker gives us 1159 01:16:24,510 --> 01:16:28,800 an honest evaluation. And you know, that still has to put it 1160 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,440 out in the market. But I think the podcast broker would 1161 01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,580 hopefully already have an idea of potential buyers. Maybe not. 1162 01:16:35,940 --> 01:16:40,800 It's an IPO. It's an it's an initial podcast offering. 1163 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,330 Well, in a way, except the except then the host don't get 1164 01:16:45,330 --> 01:16:46,500 sold with the show. 1165 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,530 Yeah, y'all have to get out. You have to leave. That's the 1166 01:16:49,530 --> 01:16:53,070 point. So and they don't want you this. What's your domain 1167 01:16:53,070 --> 01:16:56,880 names your catalog, you know, all this stuff, everything. Now, 1168 01:16:57,090 --> 01:16:59,610 besides that being I think pretty much impossible because 1169 01:16:59,610 --> 01:17:03,030 we don't own anything. All the stuff was done by producers of 1170 01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:07,500 the show. Yeah, and that we probably never would. But it was 1171 01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:11,670 fun to find out. But not for this money. So we I gave them 1172 01:17:11,670 --> 01:17:17,040 some honest but general numbers. And the net present value at 1173 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,740 sale, do you want to guess the no agenda show what that would 1174 01:17:19,740 --> 01:17:23,430 be worth to someone who's going to buy that? Without us? 1175 01:17:23,790 --> 01:17:26,640 Just the nature of what this thing is? I'm gonna say that 1176 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:31,260 it's going to be something absurdly low. And I'm gonna say 1177 01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:36,270 I'm gonna go 150 grand. Oh, no, no. 1178 01:17:38,250 --> 01:17:43,020 No, no, no, no, no. 15 years, man, almost 1500 shows now 1179 01:17:43,230 --> 01:17:51,390 $1,846,611. Which is not enough for us to give it up, obviously. 1180 01:17:51,390 --> 01:17:54,960 But here's what's interesting. So they say no, and it's a very 1181 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,020 short note. It's nice, it's formatted. But then it says on 1182 01:17:58,020 --> 01:18:00,660 the right on the same page, it says potential annual 1183 01:18:00,690 --> 01:18:02,670 programmatic ad revenue. 1184 01:18:03,630 --> 01:18:05,100 Wait, you get a residual? 1185 01:18:06,059 --> 01:18:10,589 No, I think that this is how they would sell it is like this 1186 01:18:10,589 --> 01:18:17,519 show with this audience has a, a potential annual programmatic ad 1187 01:18:17,519 --> 01:18:21,689 revenue number. So again, the net present value, if we sell 1188 01:18:21,689 --> 01:18:27,419 it, if someone would buy it is 1.8 million 1.85. Roughly, the 1189 01:18:27,419 --> 01:18:30,569 potential annual programmatic ad revenue should you buy this 1190 01:18:30,569 --> 01:18:33,629 fantastic property without the host? Or more importantly, and I 1191 01:18:33,629 --> 01:18:37,499 think that was the message. Hey, why would you sell your podcast 1192 01:18:37,619 --> 01:18:42,179 when we can get you this money? In programmatic ad revenue? The 1193 01:18:42,179 --> 01:18:43,769 number Oh, 1194 01:18:43,770 --> 01:18:45,810 good. Okay. Now this makes sense. The 1195 01:18:45,810 --> 01:18:51,090 number is $2.4 million. Well, there you go. I mean, before I 1196 01:18:51,090 --> 01:18:54,360 get a value for value, stick it up your butt. We'll take the two 1197 01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:55,560 and a half million bucks. 1198 01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,530 Yeah, I mean, all you got to do is drop some Pepsi. 1199 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:04,140 Pepsi, you're a millionaire. You can move to Beverly. 1200 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:08,790 Yeah, you change nothing about your show. Except every every 1201 01:19:08,790 --> 01:19:11,910 once in a while. You just say Hey, is anybody Hey, John, have 1202 01:19:11,910 --> 01:19:15,240 you taking your hypsi? Yeah, yeah, did Dad um, it was great. 1203 01:19:15,450 --> 01:19:17,850 Man. It made it made me feel all tingly. And I thought oh, they 1204 01:19:17,850 --> 01:19:19,830 got all freaked out. But then I thought you know what, this is 1205 01:19:19,830 --> 01:19:20,580 kind of chill. 1206 01:19:20,940 --> 01:19:24,600 The sad thing is both of us are very capable of doing that. We 1207 01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:28,260 have done it before. We're very, very capable of it. Not a 1208 01:19:28,260 --> 01:19:31,890 problem. So that was 1209 01:19:32,580 --> 01:19:38,190 I see this. I see this now. Which I don't I still don't 1210 01:19:38,190 --> 01:19:43,050 understand this whole, like, so. So the real for most people. 1211 01:19:43,050 --> 01:19:46,440 It's not about selling your podcast. It's about it's about 1212 01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:51,060 oh, hey, you can get more money through programmatic ads. But if 1213 01:19:51,060 --> 01:19:57,570 you got offered 1.8 million for a podcast where the host aren't 1214 01:19:57,570 --> 01:20:01,530 there anymore. I don't understand. And this doesn't 1215 01:20:01,530 --> 01:20:04,650 make any sense. All I was thinking was house podcast, the 1216 01:20:04,650 --> 01:20:05,580 host or the 1217 01:20:05,580 --> 01:20:09,330 show. I was thinking if I just kill off Dvorak, you know, the 1218 01:20:09,330 --> 01:20:13,110 show has to end anyway. Boom. 1.8 mil for me, baby. 1219 01:20:13,140 --> 01:20:15,510 Yes, right. You don't have to share that at all. 1220 01:20:15,540 --> 01:20:18,540 No. Screw that. 1221 01:20:19,469 --> 01:20:22,439 I know I don't, I just don't understand when 1222 01:20:22,499 --> 01:20:24,659 I actually think about he might kill me off. I 1223 01:20:24,660 --> 01:20:27,510 gotta be careful. The funny thing would be is if somebody 1224 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,290 whoever buys no agenda, they're gonna get in there and be like, 1225 01:20:31,440 --> 01:20:35,430 Oh, okay, Jim, contact us no agenda shop.com. Guys, let's 1226 01:20:35,430 --> 01:20:38,400 check out that contract. See what it looks like. There's no 1227 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:39,210 contracts or 1228 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:43,200 what? Yeah, actually, that's funny. You mentioned that. For 1229 01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:46,890 the 15th anniversary, what I want to do is have a list of all 1230 01:20:46,890 --> 01:20:51,360 the stuff that has been done by no agenda that has nothing to do 1231 01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,270 with us. But all the you know, how many T shirts have been 1232 01:20:54,270 --> 01:20:57,810 sold, how many artists got paid for that? How many meetups were 1233 01:20:57,810 --> 01:21:00,300 there? You know, all there's so many cool metrics that we have 1234 01:21:00,300 --> 01:21:01,380 no idea about. 1235 01:21:02,070 --> 01:21:04,650 You can imagine somebody doing the same thing with you by 1236 01:21:04,650 --> 01:21:08,910 podcasting 2.0 show, and it's like, contact the OP three dot 1237 01:21:08,910 --> 01:21:11,160 dev team, and let's get them in here for voice like, 1238 01:21:11,700 --> 01:21:14,610 get them in here for a code review. So code reviews, 1239 01:21:14,940 --> 01:21:18,060 you know, they they're their own thing, right? There's a what? 1240 01:21:19,620 --> 01:21:21,810 Well, so that's one other important thing I want to say. 1241 01:21:23,550 --> 01:21:27,690 Because it's, and I was gonna do a clip, because it was but then 1242 01:21:27,690 --> 01:21:31,860 again, it was about a cast laying off, you know, 70 people, 1243 01:21:31,860 --> 01:21:33,240 or 15% of its staff. 1244 01:21:33,630 --> 01:21:37,020 That said, it said, I don't want that to happen. No, of course, 1245 01:21:37,020 --> 01:21:37,140 it's 1246 01:21:37,140 --> 01:21:40,680 sad. But I do want to remind everybody, this is exactly what 1247 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:44,340 I predicted this is going to happen. Because for all of the 1248 01:21:44,340 --> 01:21:49,050 billion dollars that is floating around podcasting, not a single 1249 01:21:49,050 --> 01:21:53,070 one of these companies, except I guess parliamo, maybe that may 1250 01:21:53,070 --> 01:21:56,280 be a different deal. But apparently, none of them are 1251 01:21:56,280 --> 01:22:01,920 able to make profit. And a cast is public, which makes it even 1252 01:22:01,950 --> 01:22:06,960 more. So it's unrelenting. If you're and I've run a public 1253 01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:11,970 company, I've run companies with 700 employees. And it sounds 1254 01:22:11,970 --> 01:22:16,920 really harsh. And that was the worst part of of the job. And in 1255 01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,200 this case, it was and it's very similar, I think, with 1256 01:22:19,230 --> 01:22:23,130 advertising. Because we were in advertising, we lost the client 1257 01:22:23,130 --> 01:22:28,920 or the client, cut their budget. Well, there's a team. And 1258 01:22:28,950 --> 01:22:32,160 depending on what you can do can move someone to other teams, can 1259 01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,140 you replace him with a new client, which is usually the 1260 01:22:34,140 --> 01:22:37,110 first thing you try to do you always have a pipeline, but it's 1261 01:22:37,110 --> 01:22:41,250 not a team has to go that's that's the nature of the 1262 01:22:41,250 --> 01:22:44,400 business and the advertising businesses the same? Whether 1263 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:49,530 you're in print advertising, or podcast advertising money on all 1264 01:22:49,530 --> 01:22:53,400 sides of the equation. Yes. But I just want to remind everybody, 1265 01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:57,780 the core problem is the central bank rates. This is the core 1266 01:22:57,780 --> 01:23:03,990 problem for most people who if you're now in your 30s Butoh, 1267 01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:08,640 no, it was like before free money, the free money came after 1268 01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:12,030 the financial crash, which is how they didn't fix anything. 1269 01:23:12,180 --> 01:23:17,400 But how they made it groovy for everybody is the investors could 1270 01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:20,880 literally banks could literally get money for free and invest it 1271 01:23:20,910 --> 01:23:25,530 anywhere and go for growth, young man go for growth. And now 1272 01:23:25,530 --> 01:23:29,040 that's over. And I know how hard it is to actually make money in 1273 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:33,570 the advertising game with podcast unless you compromise to 1274 01:23:33,570 --> 01:23:37,650 the degree that you're a making podcast for the advertiser and 1275 01:23:37,650 --> 01:23:40,170 then supporting that with ads around your network. That's 1276 01:23:40,170 --> 01:23:42,900 typically what happens happened to me. He's no shame in it, but 1277 01:23:42,900 --> 01:23:48,510 it's annoying. Or the reason why I left my own company was I felt 1278 01:23:48,510 --> 01:23:53,070 like I was building NASCAR's with great drivers, except here 1279 01:23:53,070 --> 01:23:56,580 came the commercial guys. And they put stickers all over the 1280 01:23:56,580 --> 01:23:59,670 windshield, so my driver couldn't drive. Could you see 1281 01:23:59,670 --> 01:24:02,490 and couldn't see out the windshield. And I quit. It was 1282 01:24:02,490 --> 01:24:07,020 just it wasn't fun anymore. It was not funny. No, no BMW, 1283 01:24:07,020 --> 01:24:10,470 though. Oh, they heard something on this podcast and Maj. 1284 01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:14,940 Weinstein says something wasn't even advertised on that podcast, 1285 01:24:14,940 --> 01:24:17,670 but as part of the network, I mean, it's a never ending, 1286 01:24:17,850 --> 01:24:21,900 Nightmare nightmare. They want to be in control. They want to 1287 01:24:21,900 --> 01:24:24,720 know exactly what's happening. The ones that aren't are going 1288 01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,480 to be you know, you're just not going to have enough of them at 1289 01:24:27,480 --> 01:24:29,760 the low prices. They will actually settle for I mean, 1290 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,760 there's, I think I sent you a link there's companies who are 1291 01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,330 buying up rendement advertising already and giving out great 1292 01:24:36,330 --> 01:24:39,240 deals to people just you know, like Ricketts is a typical 1293 01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:43,050 advertiser. I think they do. They own lots of small fast 1294 01:24:43,050 --> 01:24:48,120 moving consumer goods. Like allergy stuff Zyrtec might be 1295 01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,840 there's Yeah, we're so products. You know they'll they'll buy 1296 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,890 remnant inventory just blanket the landscape. But you know, you 1297 01:24:55,890 --> 01:24:58,680 got to think what you're doing when I when I put into the mood 1298 01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,070 for my afternoon delight with A little bit of hep C jarring man, 1299 01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:05,430 I gotta I gotta be honest about I'm okay. I'm not hurt, but it 1300 01:25:05,430 --> 01:25:06,030 was jarring. 1301 01:25:06,510 --> 01:25:13,830 Yeah. You know, I don't think the time to get out. If you were 1302 01:25:13,830 --> 01:25:17,910 gonna get it. Do you think this is fair? In the podcasting 1303 01:25:17,910 --> 01:25:21,330 industrial complex? The time to get out with an exit was 1304 01:25:21,330 --> 01:25:25,110 probably a year ago or two years ago. Yeah, 1305 01:25:25,140 --> 01:25:29,880 well, you trigger something with me. Because when Joe was Pete 1306 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,400 getting out, really that also started a lot of other things. 1307 01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,360 No agenda is completely inappropriate for no agenda is 1308 01:25:36,390 --> 01:25:39,450 always going to be what it is until we're no more and then 1309 01:25:39,450 --> 01:25:40,230 we'll see what happens. 1310 01:25:40,710 --> 01:25:43,170 It's like Rush without no part. It's just not gonna happen. 1311 01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:48,900 Right? Exactly, exactly. When I hear that Spotify has now so 1312 01:25:48,900 --> 01:25:53,880 they do music, they've expanded to audiobooks for which they 1313 01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:58,650 have oh, the prices are high. Well, they have prices. I have 1314 01:25:58,650 --> 01:26:01,860 to say, you know, I saw this right away when they launched 1315 01:26:01,860 --> 01:26:06,630 podcasting, when you go to put your, your work, your love your 1316 01:26:06,630 --> 01:26:11,880 value, your your heart and soul, your emotion, your laughter, 1317 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,790 whatever it is, you're putting that into a podcast, and you're 1318 01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:19,290 going to sign up with Spotify. And you literally take the box 1319 01:26:19,290 --> 01:26:21,720 and give them the rights to everything and they pay you 1320 01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:25,290 nothing. What is wrong with you people look at what they're 1321 01:26:25,290 --> 01:26:28,170 doing with other types of content. Why do you consider 1322 01:26:28,170 --> 01:26:29,820 yourself to be less? 1323 01:26:33,630 --> 01:26:41,490 Yeah, it's crazy. That's what it sounds as Spotify doing anything 1324 01:26:41,490 --> 01:26:45,750 for for podcasts? Are there any advertising deals? Can you sign 1325 01:26:45,750 --> 01:26:48,450 up and get ad money from them? I don't think 1326 01:26:49,019 --> 01:26:50,399 they own megaphone. 1327 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:51,510 Okay. 1328 01:26:53,010 --> 01:26:55,980 Now, I think they bought them maybe last All right earlier 1329 01:26:55,980 --> 01:27:01,380 this one? Man, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But I 1330 01:27:01,380 --> 01:27:03,720 think no, but I think you're right I mean think engine in 1331 01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:08,790 general. Taking your content and making money off of it and you 1332 01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:14,340 get that goes back to the CPM thing. Why did my paper but the 1333 01:27:14,340 --> 01:27:19,260 CPM thing, that CPM rate that 20 You know, whatever it said on 1334 01:27:19,260 --> 01:27:23,400 there, like three, five and $12 for a programmatic? Five and 1335 01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:28,530 $12. That's five and $12 total, that you only get 70% of that? 1336 01:27:29,370 --> 01:27:30,120 Oh, yeah. Oh, there's 1337 01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,190 that? Yeah. Yeah, 1338 01:27:32,220 --> 01:27:36,600 yeah, it goes to the, to the agency. So like, I mean, that's 1339 01:27:36,630 --> 01:27:42,330 that $5 CPM, currently, which may be $2, in five years. I 1340 01:27:42,330 --> 01:27:48,630 mean, 1000, downloads gets you, you know, dollar, but whatever, 1341 01:27:48,780 --> 01:27:53,520 you know, 70% of five bucks is, you know, 350, or whatever. You 1342 01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:54,720 think that's not great. 1343 01:27:54,780 --> 01:27:58,920 I love the vulture article in I guess that's part of New York 1344 01:27:58,920 --> 01:27:59,670 Magazine. 1345 01:27:59,910 --> 01:28:01,290 I haven't read that yet. 1346 01:28:01,470 --> 01:28:08,370 It's very long. It is fantastic. Because it shows you it 1347 01:28:08,370 --> 01:28:14,820 describes to a tee, the podcast industrial complex 100%, and how 1348 01:28:14,820 --> 01:28:19,170 the people inside of it think. And it's it's all hits, it's all 1349 01:28:19,170 --> 01:28:23,010 hits driven. Oh, you know, we'd haven't had a hit like cereal 1350 01:28:23,010 --> 01:28:26,880 for years. You know, it's like podcasting is just radio. Now. 1351 01:28:26,970 --> 01:28:31,380 It's been ages since the last blockbuster narrative show. What 1352 01:28:31,380 --> 01:28:34,410 does that mean for the medium as an art form? And what they're 1353 01:28:34,410 --> 01:28:40,110 stuck in the the author, and a lot of the people reference here 1354 01:28:40,530 --> 01:28:43,560 is the idea that, that you have to have a hit that everyone's 1355 01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:48,600 talking about. But you don't you could this this show right here 1356 01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:52,260 is a hit. It's a hit in our industry. No one knows about it. 1357 01:28:52,260 --> 01:28:56,310 You can get it on Spotify or Apple podcast. I know someone 1358 01:28:56,310 --> 01:29:00,000 did upload it. You can't get it. On pirated us there. And that's 1359 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:04,890 interesting. We don't care. It's all about No, all the numbers 1360 01:29:04,890 --> 01:29:10,980 are down. It's only 30,000. Now I like to care if you like and I 1361 01:29:10,980 --> 01:29:14,730 really liked this podcast where the where the crawdads sing but 1362 01:29:14,970 --> 01:29:17,970 but there's not enough people listening to it. Who cares? Did 1363 01:29:17,970 --> 01:29:18,930 you like it? 1364 01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:20,580 Were the curl deaths? 1365 01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:28,830 It was it was there was something? This is the Alex 1366 01:29:28,830 --> 01:29:32,190 Bloomberg co founder of gimlet media, the ones golden child 1367 01:29:32,190 --> 01:29:38,040 with a podcast business that was sold to Spotify in 2019. What 1368 01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,860 does he say here? Oh, yeah. So in other words, immediate 1369 01:29:40,860 --> 01:29:44,190 business. I was asking him is this all going to end up shaking 1370 01:29:44,190 --> 01:29:47,250 out like radio? In other words, immediate business that mostly 1371 01:29:47,250 --> 01:29:49,860 revolves around high profile Talking Heads Rush Limbaugh, 1372 01:29:49,860 --> 01:29:53,310 Howard Stern, Joe Rogan, Alex Cooper. The trio Will Arnett 1373 01:29:53,310 --> 01:29:56,250 Jason Bateman and Sean Hayes, who reportedly signed a deal 1374 01:29:56,250 --> 01:30:00,300 with Amazon worth as much as $80 million for it's all whole 1375 01:30:00,540 --> 01:30:04,770 circle jerk. And they even say, you know, we've built Hollywood 1376 01:30:04,770 --> 01:30:09,360 but you know, there's no content is no hits. And and it's the 1377 01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,180 exact same problem is what you said about programmatic ads, 1378 01:30:12,210 --> 01:30:15,300 there's a lot of podcasts, and they each have their own little 1379 01:30:15,300 --> 01:30:17,790 audience and they have their own value structure and their own 1380 01:30:17,790 --> 01:30:21,330 value chain, and they're gonna be just fine. They will get 1381 01:30:21,330 --> 01:30:24,930 exactly out of it what they deserve. And that's and that's 1382 01:30:24,930 --> 01:30:28,620 the future that is the media, you beef initiative, Texas slim 1383 01:30:28,620 --> 01:30:32,610 as a podcast, it's really important for you know, hundreds 1384 01:30:32,610 --> 01:30:36,780 of people maybe 1000 That's it to them that and that's 1385 01:30:36,780 --> 01:30:39,810 beautiful, and there's money flowing and there's rancher 1386 01:30:39,810 --> 01:30:42,510 selling beef and people feeling good and they're getting ended, 1387 01:30:42,510 --> 01:30:48,960 the whole thing is, is is organized around a podcast 1388 01:30:50,790 --> 01:30:53,550 that's the future that's the future of media we're living 1389 01:30:53,550 --> 01:30:56,790 right now this this idea of you have to have the be number one 1390 01:30:56,790 --> 01:30:59,970 on the chart. It's It's ludicrous, you will lose only 1391 01:30:59,970 --> 01:31:02,760 two people when and one of them was always Beyonce. 1392 01:31:03,570 --> 01:31:10,620 You know, you know, this, this podcasting 2.0 in Apple podcasts 1393 01:31:10,620 --> 01:31:17,820 that how we've been put in there. You changed the live 1394 01:31:18,180 --> 01:31:19,020 image 1395 01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,310 today, so that it did I just wanted you in the push 1396 01:31:23,310 --> 01:31:26,730 notification. Again, I got I got a push notification. 1397 01:31:27,599 --> 01:31:33,029 Okay, so this is going to be in you have inadvertently done an 1398 01:31:33,029 --> 01:31:38,219 experiment, because we don't know how this podcasting 2.0 1399 01:31:38,219 --> 01:31:43,919 Running with Scissors art got into Apple podcasts. Because 1400 01:31:43,919 --> 01:31:50,339 that that art only shows up in two places in the feed. It shows 1401 01:31:50,339 --> 01:31:55,619 up in the live item image tag in one episode, probably. And no, 1402 01:31:55,619 --> 01:31:59,039 it shows up in every other episode, but only as part of the 1403 01:31:59,099 --> 01:32:04,469 images tagged the podcast colon images tag, Oh, interesting. So 1404 01:32:04,499 --> 01:32:10,319 that means the apple podcasts directory, their aggregator is 1405 01:32:10,319 --> 01:32:16,559 either running through the feed and looking and finding the 1406 01:32:16,559 --> 01:32:21,389 first image it in hitting the first iTunes colon image it can 1407 01:32:21,389 --> 01:32:26,309 find in grabbing that irrespective of XML structure, 1408 01:32:26,909 --> 01:32:32,879 which would pick it up from the live item, or it's interpreting 1409 01:32:32,879 --> 01:32:38,579 the podcast colon images namespace tag. Well, I guess the 1410 01:32:38,579 --> 01:32:43,919 third option less likely is ix. It's interpreting the podcast 1411 01:32:44,009 --> 01:32:47,609 live item tag, which I doubt but who you know who knows what 1412 01:32:47,609 --> 01:32:50,249 they're doing internally. So this is going to be interesting 1413 01:32:50,249 --> 01:32:53,999 because if the image that you changed in the live item becomes 1414 01:32:53,999 --> 01:32:58,139 the apple Podcast Directory image for us, we will know that 1415 01:32:58,139 --> 01:33:01,529 they're picking it up from the live item. It doesn't, I'll get 1416 01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,200 I'll give you another scenario. Here's what I think happened. 1417 01:33:04,860 --> 01:33:10,980 Okay, so you can so this image is just an episode image and I 1418 01:33:10,980 --> 01:33:13,830 put the one of Phoebe in there with the value for value logo 1419 01:33:13,830 --> 01:33:15,660 around her neck, which was done by 1420 01:33:16,979 --> 01:33:20,699 Mark Don, thank you very much very funny. She got a little 1421 01:33:20,699 --> 01:33:21,359 booties on. 1422 01:33:23,700 --> 01:33:27,720 So I didn't sync that with the channel image. So it shows up in 1423 01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,600 the notification shows up if you're playing the Live episode, 1424 01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:37,080 the lit episode. It's possible that I that I synced the running 1425 01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:40,470 with scissors image at one point during an episode just I think I 1426 01:33:40,470 --> 01:33:45,360 did I recall syncing it one. So it was the the logo. And Apple 1427 01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:49,350 has a very stringent Rule No 2000 by 2000 Minimum image, 1428 01:33:49,380 --> 01:33:53,250 you're not going to show up as an image. I'm pretty sure that I 1429 01:33:53,250 --> 01:33:56,880 never bothered to make our channel image 2000 by 2000 1430 01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:01,350 pixels. So it must have picked up that one that was the channel 1431 01:34:01,350 --> 01:34:06,840 image it is 2000 by 2000 I believe or bore larger. And so 1432 01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,600 anything else has come since then it has it's just rejected 1433 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:14,730 it they won't change it. This is years of experience talking. 1434 01:34:15,690 --> 01:34:19,890 Yeah, I have to say sometimes I don't sync the channel image or 1435 01:34:19,890 --> 01:34:23,490 I or I screw it up and I put the wrong image that isn't the 2000 1436 01:34:23,490 --> 01:34:28,680 by 2001 into the no agenda feed. And Ted horseman always emails 1437 01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:33,780 me man. I love that guy. Hey, man fix should fix your image 1438 01:34:34,859 --> 01:34:36,449 2000 That's easy. I 1439 01:34:36,450 --> 01:34:39,630 really tried to not mess that up there and 1440 01:34:39,630 --> 01:34:45,300 to see how big this one is. This one was not your right. It's 530 1441 01:34:45,300 --> 01:34:46,560 for about 504 1442 01:34:46,860 --> 01:34:50,220 Our current one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1443 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:55,710 Dang it. I thought I thought we may have uncovered a secret tag 1444 01:34:55,710 --> 01:34:59,010 use with a secret podcasting namespace tag with an Apple 1445 01:34:59,580 --> 01:35:05,460 ID doubt it. I'm sorry. Hey, should we thank some people 1446 01:35:05,460 --> 01:35:08,130 here, Dave, who have been supporting us so nicely and 1447 01:35:08,220 --> 01:35:11,130 we're moving up on a buck 35 So we probably want to let people 1448 01:35:12,330 --> 01:35:15,030 know the doughnuts are a little stale at this point. 1449 01:35:16,619 --> 01:35:19,589 Cold coffee doesn't bother me. I'm alright. Yeah, sure. Wait, 1450 01:35:19,589 --> 01:35:23,939 let's do. Let's do some safehouse first, we get big 1451 01:35:23,939 --> 01:35:28,859 week. Big paper week. We got Marco. Oh, $500. Every month he 1452 01:35:28,859 --> 01:35:33,539 gets a big baller for that. Shot Carla 20 his blade 1453 01:35:33,570 --> 01:35:38,730 on? I am Paula, thank you very much for our VPM increase. 1454 01:35:39,149 --> 01:35:45,269 Yes. And I've got to contact him. I gotta contact him this 1455 01:35:45,269 --> 01:35:50,339 week and ask if he needs the episode, the mimic the iTunes 1456 01:35:50,369 --> 01:35:55,709 API mimic stuff. Let him know that that stuff was live. So you 1457 01:35:55,709 --> 01:35:58,949 can use it as a fallback. And I need to contact him again to see 1458 01:35:58,949 --> 01:36:03,179 if he needs the episode lookup. Okay, because that's part that's 1459 01:36:03,179 --> 01:36:05,849 another one but it's going to be a lot more complicated. If he 1460 01:36:05,849 --> 01:36:11,099 doesn't need it. I'm not going to do it. Okay. Buzzsprout rally 1461 01:36:11,099 --> 01:36:11,519 dollars. 1462 01:36:14,370 --> 01:36:19,110 Play on am Paula. Big month. Nice. Thank you, everybody. 1463 01:36:19,470 --> 01:36:25,170 I sent I sent Tom and Kevin a couple of our units or even in 1464 01:36:25,170 --> 01:36:28,740 the index bro T shirts on my own. Oh, cool. I just 1465 01:36:29,790 --> 01:36:32,910 got to order mine. I love those. Those are so so awesome. 1466 01:36:33,450 --> 01:36:36,090 I wore mine at the at the 1467 01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,120 Podcast Movement. Yeah. Did you get any comments on it? 1468 01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:46,500 Yeah, yeah. From Tom and Kevin there was like on the way man on 1469 01:36:46,500 --> 01:36:47,730 the way you couldn't 1470 01:36:48,630 --> 01:36:51,120 you should expense that to the index when you don't have to pay 1471 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:51,570 for that. 1472 01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:56,730 That's fine. Now let's gates he gave us $100 As a one time I 1473 01:36:58,410 --> 01:37:01,380 appreciate that. That's very nice. 1474 01:37:01,740 --> 01:37:06,270 Yeah, very, very kind of of Alex and appreciate dearly to help 1475 01:37:06,270 --> 01:37:09,360 with Python because I'm a I'm a Python idiot. I know nothing 1476 01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:15,750 about. C let's do some booster grams. We got a chat Pharaoh 1477 01:37:15,750 --> 01:37:18,630 3333. Through fountain note. Thank 1478 01:37:18,629 --> 01:37:19,289 you Chad. 1479 01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,430 Chad Pharaoh again. 25,000 SATs and he says Adam and Kyle make 1480 01:37:23,430 --> 01:37:26,820 ice making ISOs while Dave was rebooting was podcasting gold. 1481 01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:29,730 It was it. I had it here. 1482 01:37:29,729 --> 01:37:30,929 I still haven't heard that. 1483 01:37:34,500 --> 01:37:42,420 Oh, there we go. But you haven't your computer hasn't crashed 1484 01:37:42,420 --> 01:37:43,950 yet, but when it does, I'll be ready. 1485 01:37:44,550 --> 01:37:47,820 I rebooted the computer right before the show. went ahead and 1486 01:37:47,820 --> 01:37:48,030 got 1487 01:37:48,510 --> 01:37:50,910 it that means nothing. Trust me. I know how this works. 1488 01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:57,090 It's coming. froze froze here. Gave us 5000 sets. No note. 1489 01:37:57,390 --> 01:38:01,230 Thank you for Rosie. Thank you. Oh, look who it is Cali bear 1490 01:38:01,230 --> 01:38:04,830 20,000 cents. Thanks so much for having me on and giving the 1491 01:38:04,830 --> 01:38:08,700 intergalactic boombox some love. Speaking of love, love your 1492 01:38:08,700 --> 01:38:09,420 work, man. 1493 01:38:10,830 --> 01:38:14,790 I was one of those. Yes. A lot of people liked that episode. It 1494 01:38:14,790 --> 01:38:17,490 was fun. He was a fun guy to talk to from a very different 1495 01:38:17,490 --> 01:38:20,760 perspective, you know, much more talent, obviously, it's talent. 1496 01:38:21,210 --> 01:38:21,750 Well, 1497 01:38:22,290 --> 01:38:27,210 I've been trying to sprinkle in every now and then I'm going to 1498 01:38:27,210 --> 01:38:30,180 try to do a value for value podcast or that's not 1499 01:38:30,180 --> 01:38:35,760 necessarily technical. Just go for the show. Yeah, yeah, maybe 1500 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,310 you know, wants to everyone just wants to know, every great once 1501 01:38:38,310 --> 01:38:41,940 in a while, throw in an actual podcaster like I want to get 1502 01:38:41,940 --> 01:38:45,870 chyron from immortals on the show at some point, just because 1503 01:38:45,870 --> 01:38:50,370 it's really helpful to hear the non technical podcasters point 1504 01:38:50,370 --> 01:38:53,880 of view, when it comes to how to handle all this stuff. And I 1505 01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:57,270 think I think that's a valuable perspective. Completely agree. 1506 01:38:57,420 --> 01:39:01,680 Yeah. Roy Schonfeld. Hey Scheifele Roy, how 1507 01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:02,370 you doing? 1508 01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:07,260 54321 And he just says great episode. How you doing? 1509 01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:13,590 Thank you, Roy. I while we were in Georgia, there was a lot of a 1510 01:39:13,590 --> 01:39:18,150 lot of lightning activity. They had no they on boarded the white 1511 01:39:18,150 --> 01:39:21,870 oak pastures. And so the general store had a had a lightning 1512 01:39:21,870 --> 01:39:25,170 checkout terminal and people know it was cool. And I use 1513 01:39:25,170 --> 01:39:28,350 breeze for that all I think exclusively. I love breeze just 1514 01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:33,150 it's one of those things where I don't have to worry. That breeze 1515 01:39:33,150 --> 01:39:36,750 is a great wallet. I mean, it's it's it is also the first Apple 1516 01:39:36,750 --> 01:39:41,220 wallet. Don't call it the first payment device app thingamabob, 1517 01:39:41,220 --> 01:39:47,730 jicama Jagi. Yes, it is the first key authenticator that 1518 01:39:47,730 --> 01:39:49,050 I've enjoyed so much. 1519 01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:51,840 It's Yes, that's right. Key Verification Mechanism. 1520 01:39:51,899 --> 01:39:55,469 That's right. KVM mere mortals 1521 01:39:55,469 --> 01:39:59,729 podcast give us 4444 through fountain Thank you. And Karen 1522 01:39:59,729 --> 01:40:02,909 says With the advertising model it seems easy to lose focus on 1523 01:40:02,909 --> 01:40:07,319 what's important. Where Where am I set? Where are my stats and 1524 01:40:07,319 --> 01:40:11,129 money man? Statistics for statistics sake is just as 1525 01:40:11,129 --> 01:40:14,459 stupid as money for money's sake are my favorite content for 1526 01:40:14,459 --> 01:40:22,589 content sake got it it's hard to argue Thank you anonymous 1527 01:40:22,589 --> 01:40:25,859 donation of 22 to 22 SATs through cast ematic Thank you 1528 01:40:25,859 --> 01:40:27,149 anonymous note 1529 01:40:29,070 --> 01:40:30,090 row ducks there 1530 01:40:32,130 --> 01:40:38,070 a 1505 sets through from Polish Podcast Directory podcast dot 1531 01:40:38,070 --> 01:40:40,710 info com through curio Castro 1532 01:40:40,740 --> 01:40:47,520 podcast de dot info castI with a K podcast with an IK and and I 1533 01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:53,460 know K and CPODK as t y dot info. 1534 01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:58,080 Podcast T. That's hilarious. I see. I mean of all the names you 1535 01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:03,030 get. What Hey, what should we cut the podcasts? Of course. Oh, 1536 01:41:03,030 --> 01:41:08,070 this is so cool. Podcast. Wow, man, let's let's do a podcast. 1537 01:41:08,070 --> 01:41:10,980 He is a chief position. Yeah, and about the show and said we 1538 01:41:10,980 --> 01:41:16,110 used to go to bigger rock. Yeah, rock and roll bass. Here's a 1539 01:41:16,140 --> 01:41:21,360 here's a wind podcast. From podcast D Ooh, a PHP error was 1540 01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:24,750 encountered. Ooh, that's good. That's probably because of the 1541 01:41:24,780 --> 01:41:26,820 the Polish language is, 1542 01:41:27,060 --> 01:41:31,530 is probably is probably because they've they're using PHP which 1543 01:41:31,530 --> 01:41:33,780 is not allowed per the rules of CSV. 1544 01:41:34,530 --> 01:41:40,290 Here's xaba Wait jednym that all shut? monkey cataflam The monkey 1545 01:41:40,290 --> 01:41:40,770 pox 1546 01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:50,850 Yeah, it's above it's above ALA. Well, welcome Well, welcome 1547 01:41:50,850 --> 01:41:51,600 podcast. 1548 01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:55,110 I hope we're able to help you guys in any way. 1549 01:41:56,129 --> 01:42:00,179 Yeah, and I hope we get all their shows. I mean, we need to 1550 01:42:00,179 --> 01:42:02,099 slurp all those shows into the index. 1551 01:42:02,130 --> 01:42:05,340 Yeah, point the Slurpee towards Poland. Yeah, 1552 01:42:05,370 --> 01:42:10,500 pod Slurpee dot info. Okay, here's another one podcast 1553 01:42:10,590 --> 01:42:13,380 podcast done info for curio kasseri says I think you don't 1554 01:42:13,380 --> 01:42:17,100 get my boost via curio caster I'm back on fountain. We got 1555 01:42:17,100 --> 01:42:22,890 them both. We got them both no problem. We're gonna go pirate 1556 01:42:22,890 --> 01:42:27,330 huddle. 3333 through fountain he says I like when Dave sings the 1557 01:42:27,330 --> 01:42:34,050 banjo music from deliverance comb 1558 01:42:38,820 --> 01:42:39,990 my time in Georgia 1559 01:42:49,260 --> 01:42:54,540 man I love that song. Was that? Are those roads deliverance? I 1560 01:42:54,540 --> 01:42:54,780 think 1561 01:42:54,780 --> 01:42:57,000 that a read that music was written originally about Earl 1562 01:42:57,030 --> 01:43:05,520 Scruggs. Sounds right. Yeah. See, comb. Comb McCormick 1234. 1563 01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,490 Through fountain he says it's incredible how the first killer 1564 01:43:08,490 --> 01:43:11,310 Bitcoin app is actually multiple apps that opened the door to a 1565 01:43:11,310 --> 01:43:13,980 new economy that can be sustained with consistent 1566 01:43:13,980 --> 01:43:17,970 consistency and authenticity. so hyped for podcasting rocket 1567 01:43:17,970 --> 01:43:18,990 rocket rocket rocket, 1568 01:43:20,250 --> 01:43:28,200 to the moon podcast, Value 100 Value for value dot info. Please 1569 01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,900 take a look, Gigi and I've been working on it. There's also a 1570 01:43:30,900 --> 01:43:36,030 matrix chat. And there's a document that you can help it 1571 01:43:36,030 --> 01:43:38,640 actually, I'd never I could have find out what that thing is 1572 01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:43,200 called at some incredibly cool Open Source Editor. And so you 1573 01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:45,870 have the rendered split screen the render it's web based 1574 01:43:45,870 --> 01:43:48,720 rendering on the right hand side and the left hand side is kind 1575 01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:52,800 of like a Markdown editor. So you can you could click in there 1576 01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:56,670 and you can and then it changes on the I gotta find out the name 1577 01:43:56,670 --> 01:44:00,720 of that is really, really cool. So yeah, and he's moving 1578 01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:04,860 everything towards matrix. So that's been my foray into matrix 1579 01:44:04,860 --> 01:44:08,550 and so far no one else has shown up but Gigi and I very very few 1580 01:44:08,550 --> 01:44:12,030 people as a couple but there's very few so join us in the it's 1581 01:44:12,030 --> 01:44:14,100 on value for value dot info on that. 1582 01:44:14,670 --> 01:44:17,970 Excellent whoopsie man everybody's doing XMPP I guess. 1583 01:44:18,900 --> 01:44:22,410 Jean beans in his 1000 SATs. He says I love the idea of boosting 1584 01:44:22,410 --> 01:44:25,530 the source of the clips used on the soundboard due to GB 1585 01:44:25,650 --> 01:44:29,850 and I saw something. There was some ln project that did 1586 01:44:29,850 --> 01:44:34,260 something kinda like that, but it can be done. I mean, it can 1587 01:44:34,260 --> 01:44:36,060 be done today. Any day. 1588 01:44:36,510 --> 01:44:40,080 If it can be done, it will be Thalia someone will do it. Abel 1589 01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:43,380 Kirby, Ada Ada, no note thank you, April Kirby, 1590 01:44:43,620 --> 01:44:47,040 thank you. Boost, George Orwell 1591 01:44:47,189 --> 01:44:51,749 111 And he said through fountain and he says go podcasting got 1592 01:44:51,749 --> 01:44:58,889 it. Podcast. I'm gonna read this. This is only 500 says but 1593 01:44:58,889 --> 01:45:04,409 the name of the user is Paul od pimp and he gave us a sweet yeah 1594 01:45:05,339 --> 01:45:08,519 it says like the OP three idea curious if feasible in Germany 1595 01:45:08,549 --> 01:45:14,819 we absolutely call localizers de pop Wilson is 500 says it's also 1596 01:45:14,819 --> 01:45:17,699 a nice and full name he says Keep up the good work lads. 1597 01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:21,570 Oh thank you. Thank you doing how you doing booster. Auburn 1598 01:45:21,570 --> 01:45:22,140 Citadel 1599 01:45:22,140 --> 01:45:25,710 send us 50,000 SATs which is a departure from the usual 49,000 1600 01:45:25,710 --> 01:45:29,580 That he sends and he sent it to fountain and he says booster 1601 01:45:29,580 --> 01:45:37,980 Graham confetti Thank you over Citadel anonymous through pod 1602 01:45:37,980 --> 01:45:43,200 verse is great work on value for value dot info. Thank you see 1603 01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:48,150 Captain egghead 1540 faststats through pod verse again, he says 1604 01:45:48,150 --> 01:45:52,290 just adding name to previous anonymous 5451 boosts setting 1605 01:45:52,290 --> 01:45:56,190 lost during app upgrade. Okay, I didn't see that one but 1606 01:45:56,310 --> 01:46:01,290 setting last you know and I just gotta mention again I'm finding 1607 01:46:01,290 --> 01:46:06,210 that I have to re authenticate the LV wallet a lot everywhere 1608 01:46:06,210 --> 01:46:09,540 including pod verse a lot sometimes between shows where I 1609 01:46:09,540 --> 01:46:12,360 come back to a show and it's gone some some 1610 01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:15,030 local storage on that or some cookies or something 1611 01:46:15,030 --> 01:46:18,930 going on with it I mean it's like I go to podcast index every 1612 01:46:18,930 --> 01:46:23,430 single time you go to podcast index after a while then then 1613 01:46:23,430 --> 01:46:24,780 the lb window pops up 1614 01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,380 yeah the needle look at that and part of it 1615 01:46:28,410 --> 01:46:30,510 it's good part of it is just not 1616 01:46:31,859 --> 01:46:37,079 6969 sets from Hey citizen through pod verse he says 1617 01:46:37,109 --> 01:46:40,739 donating sets to the getting divorce back on board find love 1618 01:46:40,739 --> 01:46:41,249 and lit 1619 01:46:41,370 --> 01:46:45,840 shoulders what was it pay citizen and what was the other 1620 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:47,250 one? What do you say is 1621 01:46:47,850 --> 01:46:49,350 Oh wait I just deleted it. 1622 01:46:49,500 --> 01:46:52,800 I'm sorry. Where you need what his note again? 1623 01:46:53,460 --> 01:46:57,930 Oh, he's donating 6969 to they get divorce back on board fund. 1624 01:46:57,990 --> 01:47:02,580 Oh okay, here we go. Citizen 6969. 1625 01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:13,349 Loving lit 500 SATs. See that's not that's anonymous. Oh, here 1626 01:47:13,349 --> 01:47:18,599 we go. 5552 three Satoshis dot stream. Any just has a smiley 1627 01:47:18,599 --> 01:47:20,309 face emoji. Thank you Satoshi straw. 1628 01:47:20,310 --> 01:47:22,140 Thank you. Appreciate that. 1629 01:47:22,590 --> 01:47:23,370 Now they've 1630 01:47:23,370 --> 01:47:26,730 upgraded right Satoshi Steve's streams on has a new interface 1631 01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:29,310 outside of outside of 1632 01:47:30,210 --> 01:47:33,510 telegram is it live yet? Because I don't think it is. 1633 01:47:33,540 --> 01:47:36,300 Okay. Well, we're ready. Then you want we should get those 1634 01:47:36,300 --> 01:47:37,020 guys on? 1635 01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:41,340 Yeah, we will if they will, you know it's not it's it's an 1636 01:47:41,340 --> 01:47:42,600 anonymous collective. 1637 01:47:43,290 --> 01:47:47,550 Okay, no problem. The people over in Australia thought about 1638 01:47:47,550 --> 01:47:47,820 this. 1639 01:47:47,820 --> 01:47:52,740 Hi, I'm from Satoshi streams. Anonymous collective but we 1640 01:47:52,740 --> 01:47:59,040 really like that's all that's all it takes getting old. 1641 01:48:00,689 --> 01:48:07,769 WDS 20,011 SATs David OS is from arsonists blue. And he says love 1642 01:48:07,769 --> 01:48:10,979 Dragon Ball Z so really enjoyed the episode with Kyle glad just 1643 01:48:10,979 --> 01:48:13,619 include my name in the boost message you either way go 1644 01:48:13,619 --> 01:48:15,359 podcasting WDS from RSA. 1645 01:48:19,380 --> 01:48:24,360 What's it gonna say? Oh, was it was it chyron who ended his 1646 01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,760 value for Value series two. 1647 01:48:27,630 --> 01:48:30,630 And with a million splits with 24 1648 01:48:30,630 --> 01:48:36,390 splits and they all worked. That's fantastic. Like, does it 1649 01:48:36,390 --> 01:48:41,430 also work on the on the streaming sites and by the time 1650 01:48:41,430 --> 01:48:45,270 you get done doing 24 payments, your next payment is almost do 1651 01:48:45,510 --> 01:48:48,420 is queued up. It's ready to go. Yeah, it's just it's gonna 1652 01:48:48,450 --> 01:48:52,170 that's what makes it current. That's why your phone is hot in 1653 01:48:52,170 --> 01:48:53,610 your pocket. is because of 1654 01:48:53,610 --> 01:48:54,690 this. Yeah, 1655 01:48:55,499 --> 01:48:58,469 definitely. Reason why. 1656 01:48:58,890 --> 01:49:04,950 Brian of London and hive Dao re won 104,269 sets. 1657 01:49:05,250 --> 01:49:09,930 Oh, I think we got a baller for that Oh, shot caller 20 is 1658 01:49:09,930 --> 01:49:12,240 blades on I am Paula 1659 01:49:13,109 --> 01:49:16,199 says ketchup donation because last week I was in Amsterdam for 1660 01:49:16,199 --> 01:49:19,409 high fest where everybody knows the name of Adam curry. 1661 01:49:19,830 --> 01:49:21,180 Yeah, they, 1662 01:49:21,540 --> 01:49:26,280 man I've had so many people, including the organization asked 1663 01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:30,480 me to come speak at Bitcoin Amsterdam. What I'm missing is 1664 01:49:30,480 --> 01:49:32,670 someone saying here's a ticket. 1665 01:49:34,170 --> 01:49:35,190 That's a problem. 1666 01:49:35,370 --> 01:49:38,340 And this is what I realized with a lot of these are all 1667 01:49:38,340 --> 01:49:42,390 conferences, of course, but the Bitcoin Conference, I think to a 1668 01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:44,850 degree the podcasting conference and you know, these things 1669 01:49:44,850 --> 01:49:48,600 should change a little bit. Because what happens is you get 1670 01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,330 so many people who are in the business one way or the other 1671 01:49:51,330 --> 01:49:55,200 consultants, etc, that it's their business, that they you 1672 01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:58,440 know, they are either having an expense account or they're there 1673 01:49:58,440 --> 01:50:01,920 for their business. but then they asked all these speakers to 1674 01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:06,510 come over for free and spend your own money like I don't even 1675 01:50:06,510 --> 01:50:09,930 know if this helps podcasting 2.0 anymore I mean it's like 1676 01:50:10,530 --> 01:50:14,370 well I mean when it was all said and done it's about what's it 1677 01:50:14,370 --> 01:50:20,700 going to be for us about fifth 1500 bucks 2000 For what for 1678 01:50:20,700 --> 01:50:23,970 that for both of us to go to Podcast Movement and spend the 1679 01:50:23,970 --> 01:50:26,430 days there and just gas money and everything. 1680 01:50:27,359 --> 01:50:30,269 I didn't calculate gas money but it was like it was like two 1681 01:50:30,269 --> 01:50:33,539 grand for our hotels and our meals that we charged to the 1682 01:50:33,539 --> 01:50:34,289 hotel 1683 01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:36,870 which was not much I mean, it was 1684 01:50:37,410 --> 01:50:40,890 you know 100 I was too busy getting dollars a gas for me to 1685 01:50:40,890 --> 01:50:41,850 get there and back. 1686 01:50:41,910 --> 01:50:45,570 Yeah, I don't I don't know what I spent on that. There was other 1687 01:50:45,570 --> 01:50:49,440 stuff is not insignificant. Now but even fly to Amsterdam. 1688 01:50:49,470 --> 01:50:51,960 That's your ticket is two grand. Go. Yeah, 1689 01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:53,880 yeah. And of course I require business 1690 01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:54,390 class. 1691 01:50:54,870 --> 01:50:57,300 Here it is required. Do 1692 01:50:58,109 --> 01:51:02,849 one for me one for my lovely wife. And a car I'd like $5,000 1693 01:51:02,849 --> 01:51:08,189 in a brown paper bag for our limo 24 hour limo security 1694 01:51:08,189 --> 01:51:08,879 detail 1695 01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:14,370 and all the green m&ms You know a brother 2222 Road ducks 1696 01:51:14,370 --> 01:51:16,950 through laferla CMA says I will catch up with bigger booster 1697 01:51:16,950 --> 01:51:19,320 gram in the near future. No I'm thinking of fountains 1698 01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:26,250 leaderboard see I'm thinking of fountains leaderboard 1699 01:51:26,250 --> 01:51:29,130 intergalactic boom bust sticker international podcasting day on 1700 01:51:29,130 --> 01:51:32,640 September 30 And your certified podcasting 2.0 t shirt. Recently 1701 01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:35,520 I mentioned that new podcast apps and value for value during 1702 01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:39,390 the VC buzz Twitter chat. All the best Martin lindskog lecien 1703 01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:40,530 on Twitter 1704 01:51:48,510 --> 01:51:51,810 see Oh, no. The one from last me says hi again. International 1705 01:51:51,810 --> 01:51:54,750 podcast. They use the right name of the event on September 30. 1706 01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:58,470 Okay, Dave Lee sorry for the misspelling. I wonder if I have 1707 01:51:58,470 --> 01:52:01,650 the ducks in a row next Friday. Best primis Mark Linda Scott. 1708 01:52:06,420 --> 01:52:08,580 And we got the delimiter 1709 01:52:09,090 --> 01:52:12,480 calm and blogger Yes. 1710 01:52:12,750 --> 01:52:17,940 15,033 says he says howdy David Adam. Firstly, with marijuana on 1711 01:52:17,940 --> 01:52:21,570 top. Please don't carry water for Vlad the enseigner as he's 1712 01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:26,820 unelected dictator for 22 years. Secondly, and lastly, Geller 1713 01:52:26,820 --> 01:52:29,940 invited to our pod about artificial intelligence magic 1714 01:52:29,940 --> 01:52:33,540 called AI dot cooking, narrated by Gregory William Forsythe 1715 01:52:33,540 --> 01:52:37,710 Foreman from Kent in UK, just type in your web browser or pod 1716 01:52:37,710 --> 01:52:40,110 catcher, AI dot cooking. 1717 01:52:40,170 --> 01:52:43,560 Yo, thank you comic strip blogger. And I love comics for 1718 01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:46,650 bloggers weekly contribution for a number of reasons when we have 1719 01:52:46,650 --> 01:52:48,930 the delimiter. We know it's the end of the donation segment 1720 01:52:48,930 --> 01:52:53,640 because he always posts when he thinks it is time. And he posts 1721 01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:57,750 that he has posted and he always posted all the splits were were 1722 01:52:57,750 --> 01:53:01,170 successful. And so that way I know. All the nodes are working. 1723 01:53:01,170 --> 01:53:04,200 I don't have to it's really it's true. It's a great service. 1724 01:53:04,530 --> 01:53:07,020 There's at least one one morning a week, I don't have to worry 1725 01:53:07,020 --> 01:53:09,180 about the nodes running. Now 1726 01:53:09,210 --> 01:53:13,080 it it's not actually him posting though it's aI at this point, 1727 01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:13,410 right. 1728 01:53:15,330 --> 01:53:17,850 Comics, your blogger is i What are you talking about? 1729 01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:20,370 Yeah, that's true. So 1730 01:53:21,660 --> 01:53:25,140 I don't know if we carried water for Putin. But I'll certainly 1731 01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:28,890 won't mention anything positive about Putin, if you start using 1732 01:53:28,890 --> 01:53:34,470 the term pod. Very good. In a general observation from a 1733 01:53:34,470 --> 01:53:39,210 native English speaker, it's just a general observation. You 1734 01:53:39,210 --> 01:53:44,850 do as you do, boo. When you post feedback publicly to an app 1735 01:53:44,850 --> 01:53:49,530 developer, and you say, Hey, what's going on with your app? 1736 01:53:49,530 --> 01:53:56,670 The app? I for some reason, I want to strangle you. Is that 1737 01:53:56,670 --> 01:53:57,300 just me? 1738 01:53:59,070 --> 01:54:01,710 Noise if you strangled CSB, I will help you. 1739 01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:07,290 Whenever he's it's always like, why isn't your appy app in the 1740 01:54:07,290 --> 01:54:08,160 App Store? 1741 01:54:09,359 --> 01:54:14,279 Hey, yeah, I think I understand where he is. Let me 1742 01:54:14,700 --> 01:54:18,060 not his intent. I know it's never his intent to insult. 1743 01:54:18,420 --> 01:54:24,120 Now this this, this is, this is the apps I'm 100% sure that this 1744 01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:28,770 is the reason he does that is because he's trying to make it 1745 01:54:28,770 --> 01:54:35,940 distinct from a web app. So he's saying this, actually. No, I 1746 01:54:35,940 --> 01:54:41,760 like that. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Let's see he CSB die. He died like six 1747 01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:45,270 years ago. This is all AI so the AI is just doing the best it 1748 01:54:45,270 --> 01:54:45,510 can. 1749 01:54:46,050 --> 01:54:50,250 Down in Georgia. Ai stands for salt melts. artificial 1750 01:54:50,250 --> 01:54:52,440 insemination is what it stands for down there. 1751 01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:56,280 It's basically saying thank you. Thank 1752 01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:59,190 you comics for Blogger. Just just constructive feedback. Just 1753 01:54:59,190 --> 01:55:01,740 let you know something I can come across as a little weird 1754 01:55:02,609 --> 01:55:04,559 yes without that native app 1755 01:55:04,590 --> 01:55:09,210 yeah but now that I'm I'm registered here at pod was that 1756 01:55:09,930 --> 01:55:15,540 pod kowski podcast podcast, podcast podcasting dot info go 1757 01:55:15,540 --> 01:55:17,370 learn more about your wonderful language 1758 01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:21,570 you're gonna you know run through that big playlist of 1759 01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:22,710 Polish podcast apps 1760 01:55:22,740 --> 01:55:28,620 how much it's a Swati these days I wonder if that equals one's 1761 01:55:28,620 --> 01:55:31,590 Lottie you don't as Lottie is it Poland doesn't have the Euro 1762 01:55:31,590 --> 01:55:32,760 they have this Lottie still 1763 01:55:33,149 --> 01:55:35,609 this Lottie that's that's like a that's like their version of the 1764 01:55:35,609 --> 01:55:36,779 dirty Jersey horror. 1765 01:55:36,930 --> 01:55:41,460 Totally hear this Lahti the official currency and legal 1766 01:55:41,460 --> 01:55:46,770 tender of Poland. Let's see what is the current exchange? I 1767 01:55:46,770 --> 01:55:48,930 always like to talk I always like zloty and I thought they 1768 01:55:48,930 --> 01:55:51,480 were always super smart for not going with the euro. 1769 01:55:52,770 --> 01:55:55,980 So they maintain their own currency. Yeah, they didn't get 1770 01:55:55,980 --> 01:55:57,120 into the economic union. 1771 01:55:57,180 --> 01:56:01,860 No, wow, I'm good for them. I don't know. There'll be the 1772 01:56:01,860 --> 01:56:04,470 monetary union the probably monetary 1773 01:56:04,470 --> 01:56:07,920 economic union. Yeah. Monetary. That's Polish loss. Right. 1774 01:56:07,979 --> 01:56:10,769 Yeah. Okay, now we should do digital zlotys. 1775 01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:15,120 It just sounds cool. But just hey, man, how many losses you 1776 01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:16,170 pay for that slave? 1777 01:56:16,469 --> 01:56:18,269 Is it a pretty coin or is it ugly? I 1778 01:56:18,269 --> 01:56:21,599 mean, it's Polish. Polish looks. 1779 01:56:22,350 --> 01:56:25,020 The South African Kruger is a beautiful coin. The 1780 01:56:25,679 --> 01:56:29,759 Krueger Krueger? Krueger? Yes. We all have a gold Krugerrand 1781 01:56:29,759 --> 01:56:30,389 somewhere. 1782 01:56:30,870 --> 01:56:35,490 Oh yeah. Yeah, that's beautiful. As as is the Australian 1783 01:56:35,730 --> 01:56:39,810 kookaburra. That is also a very beautiful gold coin. Yes. Face 1784 01:56:39,810 --> 01:56:44,580 to have a couple of monthly donors 1785 01:56:44,610 --> 01:56:47,310 before you before you do that have a couple of lives that came 1786 01:56:47,310 --> 01:56:51,600 in 5000 from the east side, Tony, thank you guys for all the 1787 01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:55,800 hard work. You all inspired me to start the defend the network 1788 01:56:55,830 --> 01:57:02,010 podcast, high school podcast, podcast, and Dred Scott comes in 1789 01:57:02,010 --> 01:57:05,910 with so many ones. I'm just gonna call it a forest of bamboo 1790 01:57:06,330 --> 01:57:13,290 1111116 ones or 111,111 SATs live boost boot and he wants a 1791 01:57:13,290 --> 01:57:15,510 boot boot. You got it 1792 01:57:16,859 --> 01:57:20,969 Drib hope you're feeling better brother. Hate that you're down 1793 01:57:20,969 --> 01:57:25,679 under the weather this week. The last week? Yeah, we get we get 1794 01:57:25,679 --> 01:57:30,809 some monthlies. Get David would find $3 When Goldy $8 Paul 1795 01:57:30,809 --> 01:57:36,659 Erskine $11.14 Charles current $5 Michael Gagan $5 clone Gus 1796 01:57:36,659 --> 01:57:43,559 Buck $5 Christopher reamer $10 James Sullivan $10 Shawn McEuen 1797 01:57:43,739 --> 01:57:50,339 $20 Jordan Dunnville $10 and pod news yield James Cridland $50 1798 01:57:50,339 --> 01:57:50,819 Thank you. 1799 01:57:50,820 --> 01:57:55,950 Thank you James. Very nice and I'll add Chad F with 33,333 1800 01:57:56,970 --> 01:57:59,670 attended, attended my first Bitcoin meetup last night good 1801 01:57:59,670 --> 01:58:02,250 times were had and I'm trying to spread the world of podcasting 1802 01:58:02,250 --> 01:58:05,880 2.0 also the host was at bit block boom and said he really 1803 01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:10,860 enjoyed Adams value for value speech. Score again. Big score 1804 01:58:10,890 --> 01:58:18,210 can Can I just say that? You know, John DeVore X an improved 1805 01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:22,560 understanding of Southern accents. It's very nice to have. 1806 01:58:23,220 --> 01:58:25,770 It's gonna get a beat up someday is what's gonna happen. 1807 01:58:26,250 --> 01:58:32,130 It's us. It's totally says, By the way, the goose that accent 1808 01:58:32,190 --> 01:58:38,790 of the get he was the director of the place you were at down in 1809 01:58:38,790 --> 01:58:39,270 Georgia. 1810 01:58:39,420 --> 01:58:42,420 Oh, will Harris. Yeah, 1811 01:58:42,660 --> 01:58:47,430 that accent that's not a Georgia accent. That That's incorrect. 1812 01:58:47,430 --> 01:58:52,620 That's just an old South accent that if you if you transport 1813 01:58:52,620 --> 01:58:56,280 yourself back to eight, you know 1840 You're gonna hear that all 1814 01:58:56,280 --> 01:58:58,740 over. You're gonna hit South Carolina, Mississippi 1815 01:58:58,740 --> 01:59:00,510 everywhere. That's not a Georgia he 1816 01:59:00,510 --> 01:59:03,690 was born. He's fourth generation on that ranch. 1817 01:59:04,350 --> 01:59:08,460 Yeah, that's old. That's old south. Yeah. And you usually 1818 01:59:08,460 --> 01:59:13,410 hear that either in in old southern families who have money 1819 01:59:13,860 --> 01:59:15,330 or have been in politics. 1820 01:59:15,990 --> 01:59:20,220 Well, he goes That's interesting. So that that's yes. 1821 01:59:20,970 --> 01:59:23,430 I can see that he that he's very polite. 1822 01:59:24,450 --> 01:59:29,010 Very polite if you want to hear John Denson has very similar 1823 01:59:29,010 --> 01:59:33,420 he's a longtime Alabama Alabama lawyer in Montgomery which is 1824 01:59:33,420 --> 01:59:37,410 the capital city that's that's usually where you hear that is 1825 01:59:37,410 --> 01:59:41,640 by storied his history to families of the South. I love 1826 01:59:41,639 --> 01:59:44,309 when you know to you attended the whole conference as well. 1827 01:59:44,579 --> 01:59:47,999 And so it was okay I'm gonna have dinner and then he piped up 1828 01:59:47,999 --> 01:59:56,609 and said just so you know. Down here we call it Sapa. Message 1829 01:59:56,609 --> 01:59:59,969 receives, we call it sub. Alright, 1830 02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:03,810 I got a bunch more stuff but we need to punt. I gotta head back 1831 02:00:03,810 --> 02:00:04,170 to work. 1832 02:00:04,380 --> 02:00:08,280 Oh, that's right. The summer the summer of Friday. The summer 1833 02:00:08,280 --> 02:00:10,350 tropical schedule is over. It's no more. 1834 02:00:10,770 --> 02:00:14,070 Yes, it is. That's right. Yeah. Beautiful. Next week we'll talk 1835 02:00:14,070 --> 02:00:16,230 about phase six next week because we get we need to 1836 02:00:16,230 --> 02:00:16,980 discuss that. 1837 02:00:17,010 --> 02:00:20,790 Oh, hot namespace talk next week was promo little promo, 1838 02:00:20,790 --> 02:00:22,380 everybody. Ooh, nice. Now 1839 02:00:22,380 --> 02:00:25,620 it's time for some hot namespace 1840 02:00:25,650 --> 02:00:28,170 next week. Next week, join us 1841 02:00:28,530 --> 02:00:30,960 appropriate because I had a I had a phone call with Dame 1842 02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:33,840 Jennifer this week. And we did a little hackathon. Oh, 1843 02:00:34,439 --> 02:00:37,289 it was also available next week is going to be the board meeting 1844 02:00:37,289 --> 02:00:40,499 of all board meetings. I hope everyone has enjoyed. Dave Have 1845 02:00:40,499 --> 02:00:43,409 a great weekend, brother. You too, bro. And everybody in the 1846 02:00:43,409 --> 02:00:45,749 chat. Thanks for hanging out. Thanks for being with us for the 1847 02:00:45,749 --> 02:00:49,559 live show. And we return next week for the official board 1848 02:00:49,559 --> 02:00:53,429 meeting of podcasting. 2.0 Don't be afraid of the status is just 1849 02:00:54,509 --> 02:00:55,379 everybody bye bye. 1850 02:01:10,830 --> 02:01:15,390 You have been listening to podcasting 2.0 Visit podcast 1851 02:01:15,390 --> 02:01:17,880 index.org For more information