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podcasting 2.0 for November
2022, episode 111 pod Mali.
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Well, hello, everybody, welcome
once again to the weekly board
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meeting of podcasting to point
out that you find out what's
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going on. It's here that we find
out what's going on. It's why
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it's a board meeting, let's all
report to each other. See what's
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happening in podcast index.org,
the namespace, lots of
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development going on with
podcasting, and of course,
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everything happening that's
being discussed at podcast index
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dot social. I'm Adam curry here
in the heart of the Texas Hill
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Country and in Alabama. Ladies,
he's the dream of the Macedon
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scene. Say hello to my friend on
the other end, Mr. Dave Jones.
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I'm just gonna go ahead and take
a victory lap on this Mastodon
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thing.
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Yeah, oh, it's sticking it
sticking? You know what? You
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know who? Stan a sticky, huh.
You know, you're gonna rub it my
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fix?
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Okay. Yeah.
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You know, it's been fascinating
to watch. It's journalists who
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are sticking? Yeah, they're
setting up their own instances.
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And they're doing all kinds of
you know, and they're trying to
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figure it out. And, and you
listen, you listen to
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journalists speaking on
different podcasts. And there's,
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there's definitely a lot who are
saying, well, it's really
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unusable. You have no algorithm,
you can trick the algorithm to
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get everybody to see my stuff.
So it's useless. It's useless,
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I'll tell you. But then you see
the end. This is very much like
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my one of my favorite news
podcast is called the news
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agents thing. We've talked about
it and never heard it. Oh, it's
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a bunch of British journalists
who are well known journalists
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who have interviewed the the big
of the big ones of the earth.
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And they kind of discuss the
news. With some, maybe they have
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a little snippet of an interview
or some reporting from one of
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their people on the scene or
whatever. But it's basically
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just a conference call. And they
talk about what's happening from
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their perspective. So it's kind
of the stuff that you would
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never hear about, it's happening
in the newsroom. And it's
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because it's British politics.
It's fun, because, you know, I
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have a lot to learn this
American politics with British
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news, I should say. And so
that's kind of the vibe that I'm
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getting from these journalists
groups who are setting up their
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own instances to learn from the
journos jet journo dot host, I
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think is one and now it's the
typical schmucks who are driving
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it, you know, all props to Jeff
Jarvis. Jeff Jarvis. Yes, he's
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me. He's, he's he is, if you
said show me a schmuck is Jeff.
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Jeff Jarvis. I don't know why I
don't know the man personally.
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They have been on the show with
him on a panel with him once.
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What is the what is the
definition of a schmuck,
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schmuck? Like, what does that
actually mean? Does that have a
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real like a real defined
definition that goes back in
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time?
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Let's see schmuck definition.
Here we go. A foolish or
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contemptible person is the first
definition that pops up.
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Like it's Hebrew in origin, like
it's Oh, yeah. Oh,
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no. yudishe? I would say, yes,
it is. Yes, it is. 100% Do not
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be the poor schmuck who runs out
of gas and is stranded when a
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natural disaster is about to
hit. Wow, that's a pretty clear
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definition right there. Or be
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's
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not what you want to be. And
don't, don't be the poor schmuck
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who runs his own Mastodon
server, with only like 10 gigs
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of disk space.
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Well, everyone's going to learn
and their services. I mean,
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we've been running on Mastodon
hosts since day one. And, you
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know, we I upgraded to bigger
services and searchable because,
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you know, of course, you got to
pay for more, more CPU power and
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some disk space. But we've got a
nice little community, what do
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we have maybe 1000 people on?
How many people do we have on
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the instant
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more than that? Oh, really? It's
more than that. I think it's
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like, we lose like 1200 I think,
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okay. You get much bigger, like,
no agenda is capped at 10,000.
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And it's real work for Matt, you
know, he's doing real work,
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keeping that thing running,
making sure there's no, you
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know, the vulnerabilities
because of course, there are
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vulnerabilities always.
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Yeah, it's a full time job
shoved into a part time job.
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Pretty much. Yeah. Into a hobby,
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more or less. Yeah. But yeah,
and the fun thing is to watch
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people like Dave Weiner go, does
all this were like, oh, yeah,
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has been around for 10 years.
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Yes. Welcome to Yeah, welcome to
2012. I can't find that there's
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a page on here somewhere that
shows what how many users you
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can, and I
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can Yeah, I'm looking forward to
I see What is this?
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I tried slash about that active
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use about 301 active users
today. Today.
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Oh, that's active just today
just like, posted or something.
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I don't know. I think it was
like 1200. But let me how much
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do we pay for this? What's the
what's the cost right now? I
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think podcast index dot social.
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I think it's 20 bucks. 29 bucks.
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Is that it? Much?
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I think so. I mean, I'd have I'd
have to check my bill.
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The bill and it's like, 150.
Well, here
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pricing. Let's take a look at
what they got. Now, man, where
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we have the Yeah, we have the
star level because you have moon
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planet and star. Now, we started
with the nine month $9 per month
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planet. Although I think then it
was five euros. Inflation
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people? Yeah, the $19 a month
star, which gives you medium
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Federation capacity, whatever
that means. Processing. Oh,
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eight processing threads. Okay.
10 gigabytes of database, 100
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gigabytes of media storage. And
100 active users. Oops. 100. Oh,
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no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I'm
sorry. No, no, no, no, we're
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here. Here we are. We're in the
galaxy. I'm sorry. No,
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constellation galaxy. That's the
highest. That's at nine a month.
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So we're at 90 a month.
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We're at 90 bucks a month shoot.
That's on my my credit card.
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Yes. I have a sneaking suspicion
that you have not been paying
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attention to this. This is based
on prior experience with how
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Adam looks. Which is basically
you don't until it gets
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shockingly high. And then you're
like, Oh, crap.
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That's right. Well, that's
usually the AWS Bill was like,
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wow, it's like $1,000. Dave,
what can we do about this?
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Yeah, it's like, it's like, oh,
it's been it's been five or 600
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for a few months. And now it's
just getting ridiculous. I'm
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like, Whoa, 500 is already
ridiculous, brother.
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This is why I'm not a
billionaire.
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That was my entire reason for
bringing that bringing this make
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you go and check your credit
card stuff. But you know, there
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really needs to be some sort of
light. There needs to be an in
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between. There needs to be
something that is is what's that
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thing you showed me last week
was pinafore that needs to be
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something that's that's just
that's just the interface. Yeah,
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yeah, there needs to be
something between pinafore and
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Mastodon and like that, where
it's just where you take like
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something very simplistic like a
radio to or a freedom controller
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type thing. And you just be just
you just put in a, an activity
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pub, your module to it,
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you make it look like Macedon on
the on the front end like the
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pinafore,
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something like that. Yeah. Yeah.
Because then you don't you don't
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worry about like,
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cross and it's called cross app
comments. I'm awaiting for two
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years.
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Comments across app comments
done right. Could turn every
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podcast app into a mastodon, or
TC MainActivity pub client app?
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Absolutely. I've been I've been
waiting for it. I mean, I'm
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growing cobwebs here
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yeah, that's that makes me Well,
that brings up a little item
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that I have on my legal pad
here.
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Oh, yeah. Which is yellow legal
pad.
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Oh, yes. Yellow. Can you get
only one talk? Can
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you get? Can you get the
notepads? Because I cannot get
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them? They can't get them in
yellow anymore. You know, the
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ones that I mean? It's like the
it's not the legal pad, but it's
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kind of looks like a tablet.
Yeah. Can you get those in
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yellow for me? Yeah, can you
take some some of the office?
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They're positive anymore. Do you
want to read stapler? Can you
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give me a red
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slave copier paper?
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Just now I can't get any. You
can't even get an Amazon. It's
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not.
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This one is like from the 70s.
It's
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that's the kind of like that's
exactly the kind of like, you
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got that little margin on the
left hand side. You can write
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some doodle shit in there. And
then you got
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your liable red double line that
goes down the left hand
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beautiful thing, analog baby.
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You know, this whole Mastodon
thing makes me think and we
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discussed this briefly last
week. This idea that the people
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are now podcasters are now in
the mastodon soup, the activity
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pubs soup, without knowing that
they're in it.
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I will Wish we had cross app
comments ready? We would be
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blowing people's minds right
now. Sorry.
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Well, that's what I'm that's
that's what I'm trying to say
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is. So if you had if you're a
host, this, this is for podcast
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hosts. If your hosting company,
you could imagine immediate win
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with cross app comments by doing
a connection, an OAuth
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connection. Yeah, you're so
right into your UI, say, Oh, do
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you have a mastodon account?
Because Mastodon is popular
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enough now?
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Yeah. Looked at looked at
journos here. Yes, the girl
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there journos?
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There's one right there. If you
if you had if you had this
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interface like oh, do you have
Mastodon connect your Mastodon
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to your podcast hosting account?
Yeah. And then whenever you put
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in makeup, whenever you make a
post, it will automatically
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cross post over to Mastodon to
your account. Yeah. And suck the
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URL back in as
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a post. That's Wait, that's
another one that another journal
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got what? Got him?
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This is this. Some people may
not know that.
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But that just makes perfect, by
the way and who have you already
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threatened that they have to do
this?
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This was the initial thrust.
Okay,
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you heard our AK right people.
That's when we do have
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journalists gunfire. We have
gunfire at our disposal. If you
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go to like bullying people in
podcasting, yeah, this is highly
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effective. Wonders.
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Based on this track record this
essentially.
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Anybody are secrets?
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Yeah. Right. It's it's more it's
more like it's a combination of
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spoiling and badgering. Yes.
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Like that is a bit of the New
International lifestyle. Have
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you ever heard Dvorak excoriate
the donors? Yes.
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Which is funny, by the way, love
it. It's just like, it's like
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cats. The more you the more you
you know, abused them, the more
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they love you, this journalist
or the media, abusing them where
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they love you.
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Maybe one day we'll get rich off
of this idea, then Dave,
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nothing's worked so far. very
doubtful.
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This is the most this is on par
for all of our projects. When it
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comes to find out.
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We have only person that gets
rich by abusing journalists is
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Donald Trump. I think that's the
fan Elon Musk is giving.
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Right? Alright, so I'm sorry to
interrupt you. But yes, now's
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the time. You're absolutely it's
not is it? This relatively easy
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to do, right?
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Well, I mean, we did and freedom
with trailers has got to be
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easy. It can't be that hard.
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Yeah, that's right. Controlling
you just it's the Oh off you
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just post and boom, they're
done. And that spits back the
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URL? Yeah, of course. It spits
back the URL.
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Yep. Yep. And there's an OAuth
handshake that song and dance
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that can happen and you drop it
right just bounce it around and
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you're done. Yeah. This this is
an instant win to me yeah. What
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I would expect the will say cat
will cast upon did a different
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and went a different route they
baked activity portfolio into
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their into their into their
system but if you're like us,
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you know who you know who will
who will probably do this. Of
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course, other than Steven B
which is probably already dying
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by the time but Dobie das over
RSS blue this is this is right
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up his ride right he loads dive
into loads of stuff. Yep. So
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that puts somebody do that
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just I mean, what is so cool is
this interrupt that's happening,
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man that that that is what's so
interesting to watch and I don't
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think it's lost on the
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The tech journos is lost on them
they don't they don't it's
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really beautiful. I am so
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this to happen but the part of
it's the just whatever people in
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their mind had a go I'm gonna
leave or I need a backup or
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whatever it was they came to
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drop off many did of course
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been listening to him like
they're not getting the dopamine
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hit. But most people are like
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You know, this has a very heavy
Usenet vibe.
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I don't think that is going to
replace Twitter. No, it's
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completely different. That's the
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I think it's additive. Yeah, you
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What you realize when you're on
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versus the Fed versus when
you're in the Fed averse, you
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realize that your signal to
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Yeah. And so you end up having
you, you have quality
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conversations there. Whereas, so
you but you don't necessarily
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abandon Twitter, you, you have
to go back to Twitter to get
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certain types of like news. But
then you're relieved to get to
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then close the tab in your
browser and go back to mass.
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But Mastodon is you get to the
message you've seen before
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you're done. There's nothing
left to do. You can you can try
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and click the other tab or
certain point you've seen it all
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and the algos not going to spit
anything new back at you. So the
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30 and and also like there's a
there's a visualization of the
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fediverse. And you can someone
posted that I think on I think
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on no agenda social, maybe it
was Matt. And you can see that
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we are definitely with no agenda
social is definitely somewhat
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separated from the larger Fetty
out there, because of the
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blocklists. But we but are only
the universe is kind of like
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this, this ulcerous growth
that's hanging off, hanging off
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of the grow. That's malignant,
clearly, that's hanging off the
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main glob. And if you zoom in,
there's a lot going on in that
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glob. I mean, there's a lot of
stuff. When was that? I think it
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must have been? I'm pretty sure
it was. It wasn't mad at Aaron
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or I should say. Anyways, it's
yeah, you're right. I am just
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really, really surprised at how
this is picked up. And yeah,
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man, we totally need to take
advantage of this.
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What if what would be great to
see happen, and I think this can
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happen is that you would have
certain certain podcast hosts
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that would that would do a
connector type deal. No off
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connector to an existing account
and then other hosts that would
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just go in full bore make their
make a commenting system and
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then federate that out with
activity pub. Right. There's a
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lot of hosting companies that
are Ruby based, that are Ruby on
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Rails based it's I don't know
why they're, that's, I don't
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know why that's the thing. But
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that was that was very modern
back in the days of early days
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of blogging, Twitter,
podcasting, I think what's kind
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of invoke, in fact, I remember
was the thing with VCs, you, you
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build rubies or Ruby on Rails?
Believe it or not,
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it probably probably came
because of the podcasting
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demographic, the early podcast
demographic was, you know, that
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MAC MAC oriented, and I think
there's a lot of Ruby on Rails
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connections with Mac, right?
based companies because I think
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it came out of panic and it has,
like, bus browser, Ruby on Rails
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based and Tom told me the
history of at one time, it just
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seemed very much tied to like a
whole Mac culture and, but but
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as but you know, mass like
Mastodon is a Ruby on Rails app.
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And it just seems like there's a
lot of it seems like there's a
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lot of overlap cross pollination
between activity pub, the world
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of activity pub in the world of
podcasting. And like, I see them
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as a natural as a net sort of a
natural marriage. It's just, it
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just feels right to me. And so
you could have some, some
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companies that this a or some
hosting companies that say, Oh,
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well, you know, look at all
these we get all this activity
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pub, Ruby gyms and all this code
this gets here, let's just let's
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just run with it and go straight
off. You know, that'd be great.
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I'm, of course, rejecting my own
desires here.
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I love it. Hey, go to Fetty
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Oh, then he verse does space.
Maybe we need a dot space for
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the stats
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like that. By the way, I liked
that little JSON thing that you
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spit out there. The stats thing?
Yes. Cool. So if you so you see
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the you see the cloud space
right you type in no social.com
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And then
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is it all by itself? Nobody will
federate with it.
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You'll get to zoom in one click
and you'll see real up in the
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top way the top of the cloud
there's there's the little no
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agenda social is
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on an island but oh, it's
totally
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and if you zoom in, I mean, it's
connected to a lot of stuff. But
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it's definitely is not connected
to everything. I don't know but
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only see podcasts. It's
incredible to watch this podcast
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is not worrying about social
justice something my fediverse
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Does space is something went
wrong.
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One of those helpful errors all
right is anyway. Hey, yeah, it's
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something really wonderful
happened
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that detail
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CSB. Comic Strip blogger has
been now most a lot of people
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here, met him through this
project and have learned to
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understand him. He's been around
me for since man, early days
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daily source code I don't even
remember. I mean, so we're
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talking probably more than we're
talking more than 1516 years
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long time. 17 years, maybe even
longer. And it's always been
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very adversarial. I can't help
but and he just has a we have
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met him once before. In person
in London. Yep. So we met once.
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And otherwise he's just been you
know, just kind of this always
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saying what I perceive to be
rude things, you know, calling
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me out on stuff that he thinks
is wrong. Tell me I'm full of
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shit, you know. But then. So he
really drove the adoption of the
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no agenda album artists. We do a
new piece of album art every
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single show and no agenda art
generator.com people compete to
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be chosen. And of course that'll
all of their work eventually
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might appear in the chapter
image art so it's a fantastic
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ecosystem. And we give them
credit we talked about it we
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talked about the choice on the
show and Commissioner blogger
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really drove the idea of getting
these artists into getting a get
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Alby wallet and putting their
get Alby address, you know their
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their get Alby or whatever
username I'd get allday.com into
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their profile. And so I started
actually, the last three or four
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that we've chosen already had
one, so they've gotten to 10%
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Split have no agendas, booths
and streams, and comics or
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Blogger, he was one of the last
four. And so he posted on
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podcast index dot socialist, and
it was really, really nice to
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hear this from him. And it meant
a lot to me, he says how the AC
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thumbs up emoji. Oh, now that
I'm in the value for value split
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for the latest episode, I
finally and deeply understand
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why you are so passionate about
Satoshi streaming per minute and
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other part of the for V apart
from boosts and booster grams.
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It gives the impression of
intimate connection with the
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listeners. It informs that
people actually listen to the
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podcasts and not merely
downloaded but maybe never
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listened like I do with some
podcast. It's truly astonishing.
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It's an awesome feeling.
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That's a That's a beautiful
note,
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isn't it and from him. So that's
the feeling that I tried to
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explain to people is when you
see that, and honestly if you
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use the get Alby the Saturn
stats package, you can watch
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stuff coming in live. It's
something about it. I mean, we
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we have those, you know, one
sat, transaction splits that we
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get for the index. Sometimes
I'll just sit there. I'll open
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up zap zap wallet that does a
good job. And I'll just hit on
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the recent transactions. You
just watch it flow in. Now I'm
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walking. I'm watching like micro
pieces of a penny. But it's like
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someone listened for a minute
someone listen for it. Oh,
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that's probably a boost. Oh,
that one booster gram. So when
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listened from and it's just, I
can't believe it. You're
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watching people. Listen.
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That makes sense. So it's it's a
dopamine. It's dopamine hit?
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Yes. Oh, yeah. I mean, not in
the not in the bad way. Like in
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the it's a dopamine hit. I mean,
not we that that whole idea has
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been sort of poo pooed like, oh,
that's just a dopamine hit. I
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mean, like social medias. But,
you know, I mean, it's not like,
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it's a bad thing in and of
itself. It's not objectively
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bad, to head to feel a sense of
reward and excitement for a
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thing that's happening in your
life. I mean, dopamine hit is
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not all bad. And so like when
you when you produce something,
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stick it out on the world and
then and then the little
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dopamine hits coming are coming
back to you in this in the form
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of value.
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Yeah, this is a different kind
of dopamine hit. Yeah, yeah,
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it's not because it's making you
angry or making you anxious or
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pissed off or controversial. No,
it's love. It's love.
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It is. It's love coin.
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It's MDMA. It's podcast. Pod.
Um, write this down podcast
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Molly is what it is basically
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that's that sounds like somebody
from only fans podcasts.
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Don't do this. I'm thinking
title. I don't know about you.
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Like as Molly. I don't. That's
yeah, no, I think I think that's
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the waiting. I think that's a
good it's what it is does
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associate that's that's one of
those great uses where you see
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technology making your life
actually better and not just
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feeling the outrage machine
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just making you happy just when
you see it. Even people
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that write that write you even
people that are ugly to you in a
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booster gram still makes you
happy.
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I know. And you can and I love
giving you know James and Sam
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and all kinds and Todd love
giving them shit and sending the
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money for it. Hey, let me give
you some shit. Here's 25,000
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Satoshis talk smack at you.
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Yeah, no, it's it's a lovely
things. But that. Speaking of
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well lately, on CSB this this
note also firmly confirms my
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suspicion is CSP has a much
better or command of the English
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language than he likes to
pretend that he does.
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May have been correcting some of
his English on the fly.
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Oh, okay, I got you. All right.
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Now he's the real deal, man.
He's the he's the that's it. He
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is what he is. He's the real
deal. I just want I'm sorry.
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No, no, no, by all means.
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Well, I had a kind of a weird
thing happened that feels like a
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bug, but I'm not sure. But I
want to make mention of it for
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the Opie three community. Are
you down with Opie three
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community? I love following the
conversations. I've no interest
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whatsoever in the results
personally. But I do love. Well,
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that's not true. I love learning
about you know how this project
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is basically kind of forcing
people to take a look at the
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referral agents make sure that
everything is set properly. So
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we're getting better counts, I
think it may be shaking up some
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players in the industry who may
or may not want to implement
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this in their own software. Who
knows, you know, other
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interesting things that are
taking place. And here's
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something that happened. And I
don't know exactly where the
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problem is, but it may be
something that op three could
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should be aware of. And that is
the last no agenda show I
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published. Everything was fine.
And then I was alerted to the
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fact that I had not put the ID
three tags into the mp3 file,
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which I typically do. And mainly
the main thing being the image
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if you don't make the image and
there's a number of podcast
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players out there, which will
not show the image, even though
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it's in the channel, RSS
channel, feed all that stuff.
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It's just that just happens to
so of course, alright. Oh, okay,
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that's kind of dumb, too. I
wanted in there. So I go back, I
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bake it properly. Now I've
learned that the best way to do
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it is to delete and then upload
the new one. And that goes
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pretty quickly.
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And then that breaks the cache.
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That breaks the cache and it's
just never been a problem. And
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I've had to I've had to replace
files. It's never been a
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problem. Google podcasts shit
the bed?
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Oh, no. Well, at least that's
only 2% of the
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more than I thought more more
people than I thought it more
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than dog catcher, but not much.
But like say double dog catcher.
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A double document your double
the dogs that maybe see Yeah,
441
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,770
maybe 1213 People immediately
ask what's wrong with you? Why
442
00:29:04,770 --> 00:29:07,920
are you using Google podcasts?
Yes, stop. Just stop it. Stop
443
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:15,990
it. Yeah. Why would you do like
being old fashioned? Yeah. But I
444
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:19,320
even had some some very kind
listeners, delete the app and
445
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,870
reinstall it. And still it
wouldn't work. Even though if
446
00:29:21,870 --> 00:29:26,490
you went to if you went to
Google podcasts on the web, it
447
00:29:26,490 --> 00:29:30,210
was there fine and played fine.
So there's something with the
448
00:29:30,210 --> 00:29:34,110
Google app. And I don't know. I
don't know if the Google
449
00:29:34,110 --> 00:29:38,730
podcasts app. Yes. I wonder if
they're, if they're caching
450
00:29:38,730 --> 00:29:40,770
something somewhere, because
that's kind of what it felt like
451
00:29:40,770 --> 00:29:43,140
to me. And I don't understand
and that could be in the app,
452
00:29:43,140 --> 00:29:46,200
but if it's at some, some head
end or something that could
453
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,800
affect the numbers people are
looking at.
454
00:29:50,850 --> 00:29:54,300
I can't imagine what that would
actually be. So when you
455
00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:59,730
replaced the enclosure, it had a
different file name, file name.
456
00:30:00,630 --> 00:30:05,430
Same for I can't imagine what
that could possibly be Google
457
00:30:06,330 --> 00:30:09,810
unless, and the only thing I can
458
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,930
write, but just I just thought
I'd throw it out there.
459
00:30:14,670 --> 00:30:17,610
Now now that you know these
things like things like this
460
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,750
oddities like this bother me
mentally, the only thing I could
461
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:25,860
imagine is that somehow they're
doing some sort of pass. They're
462
00:30:25,860 --> 00:30:32,310
doing pass through. And but
they're cashing in then they see
463
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:38,940
there's some sort of like, cash
patch mismatch. I don't know
464
00:30:38,940 --> 00:30:41,250
what this is. That's weird.
Yeah.
465
00:30:41,790 --> 00:30:48,090
Well, only Google or maybe now I
think was Google. Is there any
466
00:30:48,090 --> 00:30:53,520
is any other? Do they have any
device? For some? I think there
467
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,890
was some other reporting. It's
just like, oh, that's a Google.
468
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,930
They're probably using Google
system. I don't know. It was
469
00:30:57,930 --> 00:30:58,260
weird.
470
00:30:58,350 --> 00:31:05,040
Yeah. Well, that'd be one thing
on op three front. I was
471
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,280
listening to Todd and Rosli said
in the media show,
472
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,280
was that a new one? Is that the
one they did last week? It
473
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,780
looked like it had a new name,
title.
474
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:16,620
It was a new and it threw me off
to I think the title was like
475
00:31:16,650 --> 00:31:17,940
almost the same or something.
476
00:31:18,330 --> 00:31:22,170
Not listened to it because I
thought it was somehow something
477
00:31:22,170 --> 00:31:25,770
had messed up. I know, Mitch, I
did two sync problems with POD
478
00:31:25,770 --> 00:31:30,780
verse and thought, oh, maybe
whatever. Oh, man, go God. God
479
00:31:31,470 --> 00:31:34,350
said sad marketing, you know
better than this, which is
480
00:31:34,350 --> 00:31:38,130
You're better than this. Todd.
You scared me away from a brand
481
00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:41,700
new episode, and I was looking
at I listened to pivot instead.
482
00:31:43,950 --> 00:31:48,570
Okay, yes. Here's the problem.
Here's the problem. Last week
483
00:31:48,570 --> 00:31:52,620
show the title was podcast ad
rep companies in big trouble.
484
00:31:53,130 --> 00:31:56,910
The title of this week's show is
lazy podcast advertising. Rip.
485
00:31:57,870 --> 00:32:01,140
Okay, that's so that's what
threw me off. It had
486
00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:06,060
linguistic foo in there that was
so similar. Yeah. That it threw
487
00:32:06,060 --> 00:32:08,130
me off too, because I almost
deleted it, too. I thought it
488
00:32:08,130 --> 00:32:10,620
was a rehash. I thought it came
back from the dead.
489
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,330
Okay, so when was that he good?
490
00:32:12,989 --> 00:32:17,939
Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's good. So
the one you know, number one
491
00:32:17,939 --> 00:32:21,509
here is his liquidity was
drained. So we you you opened a
492
00:32:21,509 --> 00:32:22,679
new channel to him, we got the
493
00:32:22,979 --> 00:32:27,419
open up, I think, a 2 million
Satoshi channel. And me and like
494
00:32:27,569 --> 00:32:30,299
10 minutes later, hey, I'm going
over to get lb
495
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:39,180
saw that? Great. Because I was
trying to boost him he was he
496
00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:42,000
was on the show. He was like,
man, we must not be having a
497
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,130
good show. Because nobody's
boosting this. And like, we
498
00:32:44,130 --> 00:32:48,540
can't, we can't boost you. We're
out of money. Sure. out of out
499
00:32:48,540 --> 00:32:52,560
of liquidity. Yeah. But anyway,
so no, it was a good show. But
500
00:32:52,590 --> 00:32:55,050
one thing that he talked about
on there talked about a lot of
501
00:32:55,050 --> 00:33:00,300
things that interested me. But
one thing is, you know, I've
502
00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:05,460
been trying to say for the last
few weeks, that what I would
503
00:33:05,460 --> 00:33:10,590
really love is an open is that
is the podcast hosting companies
504
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:17,610
to make some, some sort of data
public, of trending shows, or,
505
00:33:18,210 --> 00:33:24,840
like, show lists public, so that
we don't have to depend on the
506
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:32,970
apps themselves to release
trending and whatever you call
507
00:33:32,970 --> 00:33:36,300
it, like trending data, or top
chart charts and things like
508
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:41,640
that, like I want, I would like
to have recommendations of shows
509
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,700
that are that are coming from
the hosting companies
510
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:49,230
themselves. Like, it doesn't
even have to be trending or top
511
00:33:49,290 --> 00:33:54,000
or quote unquote, top shows. It
could just be, here's a list of
512
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,080
shows that we we want the world
to listen to. It could be just
513
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,720
whatever criteria that the
hosting companies want. I just
514
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,190
want lists, I want lists of
shows that can be they can be
515
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:09,570
treated as recommendations, so
that we can build open,
516
00:34:10,350 --> 00:34:15,720
decentralized recommendation
points that are not based on
517
00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:22,770
Apple, Spotify, Google, these
big huge companies. I think the
518
00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:25,740
hosting companies have this
data. And I would like them to
519
00:34:25,740 --> 00:34:30,300
give it to the community in some
way so that we can the pie. The
520
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:33,270
podcast industry should build
the solutions not
521
00:34:33,390 --> 00:34:38,820
right breach, but companies but
so the key word here is what is
522
00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:43,680
trending. What I mean you just
want list, but what data and I
523
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,440
can already tell you that this
needs a steering group, it needs
524
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,180
a nonprofit it needs it through
your mind need a C four just for
525
00:34:51,180 --> 00:34:56,190
the lobbying and Congress to
understand what exactly the data
526
00:34:56,190 --> 00:34:59,970
is. How's it compiled? Those are
those guys jackin their own show
527
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,120
Oh, I can go on like this for
ever on this.
528
00:35:03,179 --> 00:35:08,609
I know I got a guy that can do a
990. For us. We get no, I don't
529
00:35:08,609 --> 00:35:15,989
even kit. Let me I want to be
really clear. I don't I
530
00:35:15,989 --> 00:35:22,769
personally do not care if it's a
chart for top shows or trending.
531
00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:30,479
None of that bothers me. I just
want lists of shows. So, to me a
532
00:35:30,479 --> 00:35:37,019
list could coming from blueberry
would be something like, here is
533
00:35:37,649 --> 00:35:45,059
400 Great blueberry shows
period. That no no metrics? No,
534
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:50,249
no. Nothing like, here is the
400 top blueberry shows by
535
00:35:50,249 --> 00:35:55,379
download, like, I don't care
about that. It's just actually
536
00:35:55,379 --> 00:35:58,379
the more ambiguous the metrics,
the better, because you're just
537
00:35:58,379 --> 00:36:01,229
like, they can be a rotating
list where you say,
538
00:36:02,579 --> 00:36:05,609
but it reflects the the hosting
companies preference, whatever
539
00:36:05,609 --> 00:36:06,299
that is.
540
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,010
Yes, it reflects, it reflects
some sort of quality signal
541
00:36:11,010 --> 00:36:14,610
within the hosting company where
they say, the here's a batch of
542
00:36:14,610 --> 00:36:20,400
shows that we consider to be
really good quality shows that
543
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:25,350
are on our network. And that's
the only that's the only signal
544
00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:27,780
you get from them. You they
don't tell you what the metric
545
00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:30,870
is the the shows could have 12
listeners.
546
00:36:30,990 --> 00:36:35,400
Okay, I gotcha, that will get we
will circle back to that.
547
00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:41,340
But okay. But here's what Todd
was talking about he he was
548
00:36:41,340 --> 00:36:45,090
saying that specifically, they
do not want to release their top
549
00:36:45,090 --> 00:36:50,250
shows, like a list of here's our
top shows by download. Because
550
00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:53,820
his words were immediately
everybody was start poaching his
551
00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:54,510
shows.
552
00:36:56,340 --> 00:37:01,290
But what to what end? Okay, I
just got to go back to first
553
00:37:01,290 --> 00:37:07,380
principles. What what is the
point to what to be able to say,
554
00:37:07,530 --> 00:37:10,830
here's a list of cool podcasts
to listen to, how can that be
555
00:37:10,830 --> 00:37:14,190
relevant to me, I hear about
cool podcasts from you on
556
00:37:14,190 --> 00:37:17,520
signal, or I read about
something or I pick something
557
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,290
up. That's this, it's mythical
to me, this this podcast
558
00:37:22,290 --> 00:37:24,870
discovery and you know, the best
and
559
00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:30,149
this is not about it. This is
where this conversation goes
560
00:37:30,149 --> 00:37:34,349
always inside. It's, I don't
want to be more clear. It's not
561
00:37:34,379 --> 00:37:39,839
really about discovery. This is
more. So we imagine this
562
00:37:39,839 --> 00:37:42,329
scenario. And this is really
more of a programming thing.
563
00:37:43,439 --> 00:37:46,109
Imagine this, here's the
scenario that we hit during
564
00:37:46,109 --> 00:37:49,199
freedom controller build,
somebody installs a freedom
565
00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:52,769
controller, they set up a new
account, and there's going to be
566
00:37:52,769 --> 00:37:57,149
a news River in there a river of
New Thought news items. Where
567
00:37:57,149 --> 00:38:00,629
are those feeds coming from,
there's got to be a default
568
00:38:00,629 --> 00:38:04,049
list, there's got to be
something to start with, like a
569
00:38:04,049 --> 00:38:09,329
seed, a seed OPML, where all
these feeds are going to come
570
00:38:09,329 --> 00:38:13,289
from? Well, you know, we had to
build that. And so we built in,
571
00:38:13,499 --> 00:38:16,739
there's a default list that you
start with of about 50 feeds.
572
00:38:17,459 --> 00:38:22,289
That's what I want, I want a
default place to start. Because
573
00:38:22,289 --> 00:38:24,989
every podcast app, no matter
what it looks like, is going to
574
00:38:24,989 --> 00:38:29,969
have some Bootstrap, that it has
to have, where when you go, when
575
00:38:29,969 --> 00:38:33,209
you open the apps, you don't
just get a blank screen, it
576
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:39,479
always comes back to share your
OPML always says this. And that,
577
00:38:39,689 --> 00:38:43,049
may I make a suggestion, that's
where you want to get your list
578
00:38:43,049 --> 00:38:47,939
from. You want to get your list
from individuals, and that can
579
00:38:47,939 --> 00:38:56,879
be aggregated to every single
thing that works. Okay. So I
580
00:38:56,879 --> 00:38:59,489
understand what you're saying
was, I'm not quite sure why but
581
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:02,819
here's what I here's what I see
a benefit of is that share my
582
00:39:02,819 --> 00:39:05,249
OPML I think is what is
basically it's your subscription
583
00:39:05,249 --> 00:39:09,449
list. And, and I find this to be
very valuable. And I would love
584
00:39:09,449 --> 00:39:11,699
and you know, this used to be a
thing, it's like you used to
585
00:39:11,699 --> 00:39:14,459
have a blog role and be on the
side of your page. And these are
586
00:39:14,459 --> 00:39:19,859
the things that I'm the blog's
that I'm subscribed to. But your
587
00:39:19,859 --> 00:39:22,829
actual feed subscription lists
which people typically use to
588
00:39:22,829 --> 00:39:27,089
export to go from one app to the
other, that's actually valuable
589
00:39:27,089 --> 00:39:31,139
information that can be shared
and aggregated. What you're
590
00:39:31,139 --> 00:39:35,999
proposing when it comes from,
for example, a hosting company
591
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:39,479
well, I can tell you right now,
and I'm I'm a pretty honest guy,
592
00:39:39,479 --> 00:39:43,319
but at a certain point, I think
some marketing might show up
593
00:39:43,319 --> 00:39:46,739
that would say, hey, we can even
get you noticed, you know,
594
00:39:46,739 --> 00:39:49,619
because yeah, put you up put you
on the list and put you in the
595
00:39:49,619 --> 00:39:53,129
rotation. So you know, that
creeps in I've worked at MTV, so
596
00:39:53,129 --> 00:39:56,069
I know exactly how this works.
It's not people aren't evil, but
597
00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:59,549
it just kind of you know it
okay, but that's okay. No, it's
598
00:39:59,579 --> 00:40:03,179
I'm not saying is not okay. But
isn't it better to get it from
599
00:40:03,179 --> 00:40:07,619
the listeners themselves and I
can identify with this is part
600
00:40:07,619 --> 00:40:10,019
of what I like, although they
haven't figured it out yet.
601
00:40:10,049 --> 00:40:13,349
Fountain is getting close to
that. Except they're, they're
602
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:16,559
matching people up with clips
and stuff like that. But it's
603
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:21,059
really like, because you and I
listen, if I were to put our
604
00:40:21,059 --> 00:40:25,079
two, we should like we should do
this, I will export my OPML and
605
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:27,239
we'll put them next to each
other. And there's going to be
606
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:33,629
some interesting overlap. And
you know, and I can learn about
607
00:40:33,629 --> 00:40:36,689
some things that I'm I Adam
curry might want to listen to
608
00:40:36,689 --> 00:40:38,699
not some just default stuff.
609
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:41,910
Oh, oh, I just had I just
610
00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:43,290
I would like, okay.
611
00:40:45,869 --> 00:40:51,839
We, if everything ultimately
ends up being, if all good ideas
612
00:40:51,839 --> 00:40:57,029
ultimately end up being share
your opinion. time every time.
613
00:40:57,419 --> 00:41:01,529
If that just let's just start
fighting it and embrace it. So
614
00:41:02,759 --> 00:41:08,219
let's let's do this. But why
don't I put in something into
615
00:41:08,219 --> 00:41:12,989
the into the API? That's an
anonymous OPML submission.
616
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:17,009
This non cast event obviously,
moving could be
617
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:22,920
yes. And then we'll, we'll have
it in den the apps like pod
618
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:31,170
verse, curio caster, they can
just they can submit with their,
619
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:37,290
you know, customer client class
approval with their listener
620
00:41:37,290 --> 00:41:39,690
listening list with their
listeners approval, an
621
00:41:39,690 --> 00:41:45,210
anonymized OPML list back to the
Index dairy and then we will
622
00:41:45,210 --> 00:41:49,710
index those anonymized lists and
just make the in convert those
623
00:41:49,710 --> 00:41:53,820
lists into a public list. That's
that can be used by anybody who
624
00:41:53,820 --> 00:41:57,390
wants to have a getting started.
Here's a podcast use your
625
00:41:57,390 --> 00:41:57,870
starters.
626
00:41:57,870 --> 00:42:01,590
And now you have a public way to
circumvent the most irritating
627
00:42:01,590 --> 00:42:07,680
thing in modern user generated
content. Add like and subscribe.
628
00:42:07,710 --> 00:42:11,070
Now subscribe will actually mean
something because that subscribe
629
00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:16,110
will show up publicly and we can
really see who's subscribing to
630
00:42:16,110 --> 00:42:20,430
what. Or at least what's being
subscribed to. We don't need to
631
00:42:20,430 --> 00:42:23,010
Doc's. Anybody Hold on a second.
Dave coming at you right now.
632
00:42:23,010 --> 00:42:26,220
Brother. Look at your signals.
There it is. There's Adam curry
633
00:42:26,220 --> 00:42:27,360
subscription list.
634
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,770
You just signaled it to him.
Yeah. You did that while you
635
00:42:31,770 --> 00:42:32,370
were talking?
636
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,390
Oh, you have no idea what I'm
doing here while I'm talking.
637
00:42:41,579 --> 00:42:45,239
Yeah, this all the all the apps
if I understand, right, all the
638
00:42:45,269 --> 00:42:49,709
all the 2.0 apps will get your
OPML Yeah. Okay, I'm doing
639
00:42:49,710 --> 00:42:50,760
something else here for a
second.
640
00:42:54,329 --> 00:43:00,359
Share your bone. Okay, so if all
the if all the 2.0 apps, and I
641
00:43:00,359 --> 00:43:04,139
think they all do now support
OPML export, they have that code
642
00:43:04,139 --> 00:43:07,499
in I'm already now. So they,
they should be able to do
643
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:10,560
that I need to tell you a story
about default lists, just so I
644
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,370
get it off my chest, I have to
absolve myself of this detail.
645
00:43:15,420 --> 00:43:20,310
Radio userland was the
aggregator slash blog client
646
00:43:20,310 --> 00:43:22,860
that Dave Weiner wrote. That's
how I got interested in that's
647
00:43:22,860 --> 00:43:25,440
how eventually that
collaboration led to podcasting.
648
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,580
But even before that, before,
before we started working on
649
00:43:29,580 --> 00:43:33,930
that, probably couple of years
before I don't remember, I don't
650
00:43:33,930 --> 00:43:38,370
remember the timing exactly. I
saw this this aggregator like
651
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,910
this radio user land like, wow,
I want my blog to be in that
652
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:48,870
first list of, of 20. Of 20
blogs, and I gave him $10,000 to
653
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:52,350
put my name in there as a
default. No, I think he's told
654
00:43:52,350 --> 00:43:56,130
me that I was on I was on the
default feeds list in a lot of
655
00:43:56,130 --> 00:43:59,880
podcast app for a long, long
time because of that it paid
656
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:06,780
off. But I'm just saying that it
still feels bad. Many, many
657
00:44:06,810 --> 00:44:10,200
decades later. It's like taking
658
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,640
wooden silver like I can
659
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:16,800
at what you can
660
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:21,509
eat Okay, real. It's the real
OPML lists from this is what
661
00:44:21,509 --> 00:44:21,629
from
662
00:44:21,630 --> 00:44:24,510
the user this is what I like I
think this is a very exciting
663
00:44:24,510 --> 00:44:25,020
idea.
664
00:44:25,860 --> 00:44:30,420
Yeah, you in the listeners have,
you can have that side of
665
00:44:30,420 --> 00:44:33,540
things. And then you could also
have the host side of things
666
00:44:33,540 --> 00:44:35,190
where they have their lists that
they
667
00:44:35,850 --> 00:44:39,060
put into the way but yes, we can
put it all together. I mean, but
668
00:44:39,060 --> 00:44:42,180
I just think like this, you
gotta have I would drive it from
669
00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:46,380
the listeners have have anyone
can contribute. Why not? Why
670
00:44:46,380 --> 00:44:54,090
wouldn't I mean? Why wouldn't an
app itself so here's just your
671
00:44:54,090 --> 00:44:57,090
right we can have what is share
my OPML that's, that's the
672
00:44:57,090 --> 00:45:00,210
bottom line doesn't matter who
you are, what type of entity You
673
00:45:00,210 --> 00:45:03,840
are as long as we can all share
it and then we can aggregate it
674
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,710
and come up with some fun stats
or, Hey, we got we got a lot of
675
00:45:07,710 --> 00:45:13,710
people, we just need to have the
data. I'm sure people like, you
676
00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:19,230
know, there's some AI MSL KYC
AML people out there who will do
677
00:45:19,230 --> 00:45:21,660
something really cool with it
and come up with some, some cool
678
00:45:21,660 --> 00:45:24,210
charts and graphs and maybe
recommendation engines. I
679
00:45:24,209 --> 00:45:27,809
don't know. Yeah, that's this is
this one. But it's a machine
680
00:45:27,809 --> 00:45:30,539
readable. I thank you for saying
it. Let's not let's stop
681
00:45:30,539 --> 00:45:31,919
fighting the joke.
682
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:37,260
Just embrace embrace this world
embrace this brave new world of
683
00:45:37,260 --> 00:45:40,890
hope in this brave new world of
OPML. That's 25 years ago.
684
00:45:40,949 --> 00:45:42,959
Oh my goodness. That
685
00:45:43,590 --> 00:45:49,950
this, this old professor of mine
and took took a classroom called
686
00:45:49,950 --> 00:45:55,110
extraterrestrial life. It was in
in college, one of the funniest
687
00:45:55,230 --> 00:45:59,760
classes I've ever had. And he he
made the statement that all you
688
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,370
know, all the best scientists
eventually become
689
00:46:02,370 --> 00:46:05,670
astrophysicist. They eventually
turn their turn their focus to
690
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:10,230
space. And yeah, all the best
ideas are always eventually
691
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:13,320
become share your OPML so let's
just do it. Let's just go that
692
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:13,620
way.
693
00:46:13,649 --> 00:46:18,389
Well, and let's just be careful
here. We're doing cuz you're
694
00:46:18,389 --> 00:46:25,289
right. All things. Just the tip,
Dave, let's be careful. It's not
695
00:46:25,319 --> 00:46:29,429
not go all the way. This is
easy, does it? What was the
696
00:46:29,429 --> 00:46:34,799
beauty of Napster? Was it just
that you could search for
697
00:46:34,799 --> 00:46:38,279
something and download it? Or
was it? Hey, I'm downloading
698
00:46:38,279 --> 00:46:41,879
this thing. And let me see what
else this dude has on his drive.
699
00:46:42,779 --> 00:46:48,119
That exploration was part of the
beauty of it. You know what I'm
700
00:46:48,119 --> 00:46:48,689
saying?
701
00:46:49,590 --> 00:46:52,470
Yeah, because you can see the
whole collection and not just
702
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:53,490
the thing you want it.
703
00:46:53,550 --> 00:46:57,810
It's like I would love to have
access to now I'm gonna get
704
00:46:57,810 --> 00:47:01,620
fancy here because I would love
to have a true OPML file and
705
00:47:01,620 --> 00:47:06,900
have it foldable by whatever.
Like an outline. I think James
706
00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:09,390
Cleveland's OPML will be pretty
interesting to look at.
707
00:47:10,619 --> 00:47:16,769
Your This is crazy. This is
crazy talk. You want actual
708
00:47:16,799 --> 00:47:18,209
valid OPML
709
00:47:20,190 --> 00:47:23,670
I know. I'm sorry. Instead of
just a subscription list you and
710
00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:27,480
I have you haven't right valid
OPML but Okay, what else? Yeah,
711
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:30,840
exactly. Yes. That's the crazy
talk. I'm talking about
712
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:35,099
the only person the only person
younger than then 50 Besides us
713
00:47:35,099 --> 00:47:38,219
that cares about valid opium
mill is Christopher ICs.
714
00:47:38,249 --> 00:47:41,309
Right well he right now he's
like well, he can't believe his
715
00:47:41,309 --> 00:47:45,929
luck. He by the way he he is
share my OPML
716
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:48,629
this what is his name? That's
his middle name is share
717
00:47:48,629 --> 00:47:49,169
European.
718
00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:52,919
I just does he have an API to
his stuff? Because he's got a
719
00:47:52,919 --> 00:47:54,869
lot of stuff going on and OPML
720
00:47:55,380 --> 00:47:58,470
I don't know he's runs like a
runs like a rack of like 20 year
721
00:47:58,470 --> 00:48:01,350
old servers in his garage
differ.
722
00:48:01,349 --> 00:48:03,779
This is up your alley, brother.
This is the stuff you know
723
00:48:03,779 --> 00:48:08,939
about. That, I guess they call
this a cool idea. I like it.
724
00:48:10,050 --> 00:48:14,880
So on the well, quick update on
pod ping dot cloud.
725
00:48:14,909 --> 00:48:19,619
Yes. This seems to I'll be
honest. It's given me a little
726
00:48:19,619 --> 00:48:25,259
bit of a reliability issue.
Feelings anxiety. No. Well, I
727
00:48:25,259 --> 00:48:27,149
had a misfire with no agenda.
728
00:48:28,050 --> 00:48:31,410
How did that Oh, I don't know.
So Mr. Id three tags. So head
729
00:48:31,410 --> 00:48:33,090
on. May have been you.
730
00:48:33,539 --> 00:48:39,179
Wow. Thanks. IT support. How you
help everyone at the firm day.
731
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:44,249
First thing you do is blame the
user? Of course. It's never my
732
00:48:44,249 --> 00:48:44,519
fault.
733
00:48:46,289 --> 00:48:48,239
Check the caps lock you Dumbo
734
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,050
Castle hook. Yeah, it's a
problem between the keyboard and
735
00:48:52,050 --> 00:48:57,210
the brain in the brain. But I
don't know I don't I don't think
736
00:48:57,420 --> 00:49:00,780
is there a reliability issue
with puffy? No cloud on it?
737
00:49:00,780 --> 00:49:02,040
Well, okay. Okay. To me.
738
00:49:02,429 --> 00:49:06,449
Todd hasn't successfully done a
live pod ping in his life. That
739
00:49:06,449 --> 00:49:12,029
mine mine failed yesterday.
What's going on? And all I see
740
00:49:12,029 --> 00:49:16,679
is Brian of London going Yeah,
look, I've got to 8000 things
741
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:20,819
going on and and Facebook. I
can't tell you why. How rich I'm
742
00:49:20,819 --> 00:49:23,489
going to be off of them. And
then Dave comes in and goes,
743
00:49:23,909 --> 00:49:28,709
well, this one broke and the AAA
dot two and the BB BB is running
744
00:49:28,709 --> 00:49:32,789
fine. But meanwhile, Todd has
Ivan. Here's what's happening.
745
00:49:33,659 --> 00:49:38,159
Todd is trying to reach me with
his live pod ping. And I'm not
746
00:49:38,159 --> 00:49:41,039
getting them so I'm missing the
show. And not only that, but he
747
00:49:41,039 --> 00:49:45,899
does a dumb title and then I
missed the show. You're breaking
748
00:49:45,899 --> 00:49:48,719
up our relationship with this
pod ping issues
749
00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:52,050
he's trying to reach is a long
distance relationship and I'm
750
00:49:52,050 --> 00:49:53,310
interfering with this.
751
00:49:53,610 --> 00:49:57,120
It's like a channel it's like a
lightning channel being down
752
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,940
when the when the connection is
broken. You feel that
753
00:50:00,750 --> 00:50:10,380
I cannot. I cannot explain why
Todd cannot send a left HUD. No,
754
00:50:10,830 --> 00:50:15,090
I don't know what's wrong with
this, but I do. But, but I know
755
00:50:15,090 --> 00:50:17,820
what the solution. I don't know
what the problem is. But I do
756
00:50:17,820 --> 00:50:19,770
know what the solution is. Now,
for
757
00:50:19,770 --> 00:50:23,160
instance, oh, no, I'm sorry. We
did get a live ping for
758
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,740
podcasting two point. Okay, that
did work. Yeah, yeah. And what I
759
00:50:25,740 --> 00:50:28,380
see right here on my phone,
what's, what's the solution?
760
00:50:28,770 --> 00:50:35,100
The solution is the next version
of pod pain dot cloud, which we
761
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:38,880
are working to get, because once
once we get lot of reason code
762
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,050
support in piping dot cloud,
then then we don't have to rely
763
00:50:43,050 --> 00:50:47,280
on these alternate solutions.
People can just send what
764
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,970
they're used to. They can just
send there's their thing.
765
00:50:50,970 --> 00:50:53,610
They're paying to pop into a
cloud with a lot of reason code.
766
00:50:53,610 --> 00:50:57,540
And, you know, and all these
other hacky side solutions, have
767
00:50:57,570 --> 00:51:02,880
they could they go away? Right.
So I think that's really
768
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,390
ultimately the fix. And we're
getting we're getting there we
769
00:51:07,110 --> 00:51:11,190
we've got the back end and front
end talking to each other now.
770
00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:21,360
And thank you to thank you to
Alex for rescuing me from my via
771
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:26,040
from trying to take figure out
how to take this protocol buffer
772
00:51:26,820 --> 00:51:33,270
and send it over the socket. In
a way, it was driving me crazy.
773
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:36,240
I'm like, I know, this is it, I
know, this is the thing that I
774
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:39,930
got to sin, and it just would
not work. And so he looked at
775
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:44,070
any in, he was like, oh, you
can't send this in pieces, it's
776
00:51:44,070 --> 00:51:46,440
got to be, it's got to be all
you got to send the whole buffer
777
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,100
at once. Like, oh, for me, I was
beating my head against the
778
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:53,430
wall. And then he also found
that I was not wrapping it in
779
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:56,100
the correct type. So anyway, he
was able to spot some put fresh
780
00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:58,350
eyes on his spot what I was
doing wrong. So we got that
781
00:51:58,350 --> 00:52:02,790
working. Now it's crashing, on
the on the back end on on the
782
00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:07,380
hive writer. So the ultimate. So
we're trying to do this in a way
783
00:52:07,380 --> 00:52:09,900
that's modular as well, because
ultimately, we want to have more
784
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:13,290
than just the hive writer, we
want to be able to have other
785
00:52:13,290 --> 00:52:17,250
back end writers where this
where you send a pod pain to
786
00:52:17,250 --> 00:52:19,950
piping dot cloud, it gets
written to hive, it gets written
787
00:52:19,950 --> 00:52:24,450
to IPFS, Pub Sub, whatever, you
know, all it can blast out into
788
00:52:24,450 --> 00:52:28,950
a whole bunch of different
backends as appropriate, okay.
789
00:52:29,730 --> 00:52:32,640
And so that's we're sort of
trying to solve all these things
790
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:38,130
at once. With by by designing
the correct architecture up
791
00:52:38,130 --> 00:52:41,370
front. And correct architecture.
Is this one too many socket?
792
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,540
Yes. You're doing this in your
spare time as Alex as is Brian.
793
00:52:46,110 --> 00:52:48,510
Yeah, yeah. And I love you guys
for this.
794
00:52:48,810 --> 00:52:51,810
Getting close. It's getting
close to the holidays is made
795
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:59,490
things hard. That's what she
said. It's so
796
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,610
I'm sorry, I'm real punchy. We
started an hour later, Dave. I
797
00:53:02,610 --> 00:53:04,260
mean, it's your fault.
Basically. It's
798
00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:07,080
too I blame retro you had way
too much.
799
00:53:08,489 --> 00:53:11,879
This problem is it's not me.
It's the dirty the dirty chat
800
00:53:11,879 --> 00:53:13,499
room. Oh,
801
00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:14,250
they get you fired. I
802
00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:19,470
read your quote in the chat room
and you'll understand. Okay.
803
00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:31,259
Yes, yes. Yes, of course. Of
course. As you guys.
804
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,830
They baited me Good job, boys.
You got
805
00:53:34,860 --> 00:53:39,510
this. See this is this is what I
do. I do double entendre Yes.
806
00:53:39,540 --> 00:53:40,590
Without realizing it
807
00:53:40,619 --> 00:53:43,559
does actually trigger me through
the chat room. You're so
808
00:53:43,559 --> 00:53:44,189
brilliant.
809
00:53:44,550 --> 00:53:52,560
So my my my most famous example
of accidental double entendre is
810
00:53:52,860 --> 00:53:57,180
me and my wife went to Logan's
Roadhouse. I don't know if y'all
811
00:53:57,180 --> 00:54:00,780
have those in Texas or not. I
don't think so. It's like a
812
00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:02,400
chain steakhouse place.
813
00:54:03,809 --> 00:54:07,499
We get have a beef snob. I don't
go to chains. Yes, yes.
814
00:54:09,389 --> 00:54:12,449
But we went there for out on a
date night or something like
815
00:54:12,449 --> 00:54:17,939
that. And we have, we had a
couple of steaks and then and
816
00:54:17,939 --> 00:54:21,629
I'm so full. I can't I mean, I
can't eat anything else. But
817
00:54:21,629 --> 00:54:25,949
this waiter who's like, I don't
know. 19 years old. He comes
818
00:54:25,949 --> 00:54:30,299
over to the it comes back to the
table. He's like, Hey, can I can
819
00:54:30,299 --> 00:54:35,939
I get you awesome dessert? Well,
my dad, for my dad has always he
820
00:54:35,939 --> 00:54:39,029
has all these these sayings.
Like he's just famous for these
821
00:54:39,029 --> 00:54:45,149
sayings. And one of these, one
of his classic sayings is when
822
00:54:45,149 --> 00:54:47,879
he's really full and somebody
asks him if you want dessert.
823
00:54:49,409 --> 00:54:54,119
He's like, I'd have to rub it on
the outside. Because no room.
824
00:54:56,099 --> 00:55:01,679
So, so this 19 year old God it
says do wasn't desert. And I
825
00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:06,029
said, and I flubbed it. I flub
the joke. And I said, you'd have
826
00:55:06,029 --> 00:55:14,669
to rub it on me. And so the look
on his face when I said you have
827
00:55:14,669 --> 00:55:20,249
to rub it on me, man. He went,
why does this sheet thought, oh
828
00:55:20,249 --> 00:55:22,469
my God, these are some sort of
this is some sort of creepy
829
00:55:22,469 --> 00:55:26,279
swinger couple or something. He
just he just turned around
830
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,280
and walked away. Yeah, that's
the only appropriate response.
831
00:55:30,210 --> 00:55:34,590
Then Then, when he brought me
the check, like, he was like, an
832
00:55:34,590 --> 00:55:37,440
effing ninja when he brought
this check. I mean, I don't know
833
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,470
how the check even appeared on
our table. It was like he was I
834
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:43,020
mean, it's like he didn't even
want to get close to us. That's
835
00:55:43,020 --> 00:55:48,000
too funny, man. I forgot what I
was even talking about.
836
00:55:48,030 --> 00:55:54,090
I don't know. I'm looking at
these, these stats. And I
837
00:55:54,090 --> 00:55:59,460
thought this was a great little
colab. And I heard I heard Todd
838
00:55:59,460 --> 00:56:02,850
and Rob talking about add, the
stats are not useful. We need
839
00:56:02,850 --> 00:56:06,480
them three 710 14 3060 days and
need them right away,
840
00:56:07,110 --> 00:56:08,880
though. Yeah. Todd was not happy
with my stats.
841
00:56:08,909 --> 00:56:15,569
No, he was very demanding. But
now I have a question because I
842
00:56:15,569 --> 00:56:19,139
don't quite understand it. So
I'm looking at the JSON. I got
843
00:56:19,139 --> 00:56:22,229
the feed count total episode.
And now it has two categories
844
00:56:22,229 --> 00:56:26,699
has feeds with new episodes.
Three days and new episodes.
845
00:56:26,699 --> 00:56:28,529
Three days. What is the
difference?
846
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,730
Oh, where you're looking? You're
looking at the thing I posted?
847
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:32,970
Yeah,
848
00:56:32,970 --> 00:56:36,600
the JSON? Daily counts dot JSON.
849
00:56:38,250 --> 00:56:42,120
Yeah, which is, which is
immediately not not the right
850
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,140
way to immediately a bad file
name. Because it's not a daily
851
00:56:46,140 --> 00:56:48,420
it's an hourly, so I've already
screwed that up.
852
00:56:48,570 --> 00:56:50,850
Well done. Thanks.
853
00:56:52,590 --> 00:56:54,270
I'm trying to find the link so I
can even see
854
00:56:54,809 --> 00:57:00,539
that podcast.
index.org/daily_watch Why are
855
00:57:00,539 --> 00:57:01,409
you laughing at me?
856
00:57:01,949 --> 00:57:04,739
I'm just laughing because you're
having to tell me what I did.
857
00:57:07,530 --> 00:57:09,540
It's okay. Slash
858
00:57:09,539 --> 00:57:11,729
pockets and dinners daily
underscore
859
00:57:12,510 --> 00:57:13,980
count dot JSON.
860
00:57:16,139 --> 00:57:19,799
So stupid. I don't even know my
own files. Oh, yeah. Okay, sci
861
00:57:19,799 --> 00:57:23,339
fi, total count episode count
total. 100 16 million. That's a
862
00:57:23,339 --> 00:57:28,709
lot. Feeds with new episodes.
Okay, so feeds that have posted
863
00:57:28,709 --> 00:57:30,509
a new episode within three days.
864
00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:33,870
But what is new episodes, three
days? That's how
865
00:57:33,870 --> 00:57:36,600
many new episodes have been
posted in the last three days
866
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,040
total across the board.
867
00:57:38,099 --> 00:57:44,099
Oh, okay. So oh, so in the last
three days, it's pretty much
868
00:57:44,129 --> 00:57:47,849
double the amount of episodes as
there are feeds with new
869
00:57:47,849 --> 00:57:50,819
episodes, I saw that so many
feeds would have more than one
870
00:57:50,819 --> 00:57:55,529
episode. In the past three days.
Okay, that's, well, that's very
871
00:57:55,529 --> 00:57:56,159
interesting.
872
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:02,790
New episodes. So over the last
90 days, there's been 5,685,338
873
00:58:02,790 --> 00:58:03,510
New episodes,
874
00:58:03,540 --> 00:58:07,380
right? A little bit over. So I
like seven days, because that's,
875
00:58:07,410 --> 00:58:11,670
that seems to be the biggest.
That's a big number here. Just
876
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:17,220
makes sense. Because 10 days, it
drops off. So it feels like
877
00:58:18,060 --> 00:58:21,750
there's probably too, I'm just
gonna pick a number in between
878
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:26,400
this probably 250,000 podcasts
that update on a weekly basis
879
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,170
that we're aware of. Does that
make sense?
880
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:33,630
Well, it should be right there.
What's that number was? It was
881
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,830
11,000. So yeah, 77. Yeah.
That's your count right there
882
00:58:37,830 --> 00:58:40,380
for a seven day period. That's
how many shows have posted at
883
00:58:40,380 --> 00:58:43,530
least one new episode. And
someone's
884
00:58:43,529 --> 00:58:45,929
making a lot of money for that
billion dollars that's flowing
885
00:58:45,929 --> 00:58:49,949
around this business. Right?
It's gotta be one guy in there.
886
00:58:49,949 --> 00:58:51,989
One guy in there is making $900
million.
887
00:58:53,820 --> 00:58:57,600
That's a billion dollars divided
by 211,000. That's a lot of
888
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:58,860
money. Which one is it?
889
00:58:59,940 --> 00:59:01,320
Yeah. Who are you guy?
890
00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:08,729
Okay, so that's these numbers,
man. It's so so doable to get in
891
00:59:08,729 --> 00:59:10,349
there and get something done in
there?
892
00:59:11,909 --> 00:59:18,599
I think so. I mean, three OSI
338 to 5,685,338 episodes,
893
00:59:18,899 --> 00:59:28,499
divided by 487,236 shows to over
nine over 90 days. That's
894
00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:35,669
averaging. Excuse me, that's 11
New episodes per feed over a 90
895
00:59:35,669 --> 00:59:36,419
day period.
896
00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:42,929
So yeah, so a little more than
ones like 1.7 1.4 A week or
897
00:59:42,929 --> 00:59:43,499
something.
898
00:59:44,579 --> 00:59:47,879
Yeah, feels like I don't know
what I what it feels like I find
899
00:59:49,409 --> 00:59:50,519
I'm bored. Now. You
900
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,910
know what it seems like it seems
like 18 years later, and this is
901
00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:56,310
the amount of podcasts that are
really active and we still
902
00:59:56,310 --> 00:59:59,490
haven't figured out how to do
advertising. Get a
903
00:59:59,490 --> 01:00:05,100
clue Got feeds with value
blocks. 10,495 Yeah, this
904
01:00:05,099 --> 01:00:09,269
is my favorite. This is my
favorite. My favorite number,
905
01:00:09,630 --> 01:00:13,440
and then feeds with transcripts
22,058.
906
01:00:13,500 --> 01:00:15,510
Of which most of it Buzzsprout,
I believe.
907
01:00:17,219 --> 01:00:19,829
Yeah, I would pass a yes or
half,
908
01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:23,309
I think. Yeah, that's pretty
good. That's pretty good. I like
909
01:00:23,309 --> 01:00:23,639
that.
910
01:00:23,969 --> 01:00:26,039
Look at the episode numbers,
episodes or transcripts?
911
01:00:26,039 --> 01:00:32,429
534,202. That's all me this
year, at least a third of them?
912
01:00:33,719 --> 01:00:35,729
A lot. But I think these
913
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,820
are great numbers. I love that.
No, I loved it. Don't change the
914
01:00:38,820 --> 01:00:42,450
name to hourly or lose it. These
are good numbers. I really never
915
01:00:42,450 --> 01:00:44,940
find it in this updates. Let me
guess every hour?
916
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:48,660
Yes. That's why it's called
Daily, because it updates every
917
01:00:48,660 --> 01:00:56,550
hour. Okay, I'm gonna change
that name. But if we can just
918
01:00:56,580 --> 01:01:02,160
add more stuff. So, you know,
once you go down this rabbit
919
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:06,060
hole, you can just stat all the
things so you know, like feeds
920
01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:12,720
with fees with chapters. feeds
that are music, medium feeds and
921
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:13,230
podcast
922
01:01:13,470 --> 01:01:15,810
follow up right there. How are
we doing with Slurpee?
923
01:01:17,969 --> 01:01:24,449
We did a big import last week is
not called a slurp it did us a
924
01:01:24,449 --> 01:01:26,339
spit as a slurping spit.
925
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,320
Sure it wasn't a song, it was
just a specific
926
01:01:29,039 --> 01:01:35,669
topic. The I'm gonna have to
limit your 100% of retro time
927
01:01:35,669 --> 01:01:37,919
before the show. This is the
reason
928
01:01:37,919 --> 01:01:40,739
why I say that makes you to
spice and when I had my company
929
01:01:40,739 --> 01:01:45,749
think new ideas. It was a big
company 700 people and so we had
930
01:01:45,749 --> 01:01:48,959
put we put these processes
together to run. But you're
931
01:01:48,959 --> 01:01:51,989
basically building websites, you
know, but for big companies,
932
01:01:51,989 --> 01:01:56,999
Budweiser, Reebok, you know,
stuff like this. And we would
933
01:01:57,029 --> 01:02:00,299
and we it's kind of up to us, we
could create whatever we wanted,
934
01:02:00,479 --> 01:02:03,779
within reason with the client
sign off and back end stuff. So
935
01:02:03,779 --> 01:02:06,599
we had the system, which we
literally called the process.
936
01:02:06,929 --> 01:02:12,569
And at the time staging and
production, so you'd have client
937
01:02:12,569 --> 01:02:15,839
services, who would be you know,
on the staging server with the
938
01:02:15,839 --> 01:02:18,659
client, the client checking it
all making sure it's okay, good
939
01:02:18,929 --> 01:02:22,469
or good. It can go to can go to
production, and they literally
940
01:02:22,469 --> 01:02:26,819
had a suck order. That's what
they have stuck it over to send
941
01:02:26,819 --> 01:02:29,189
it live. So that's where that
comes from.
942
01:02:30,750 --> 01:02:32,190
So you'd have to put in a circle
with a
943
01:02:32,250 --> 01:02:37,020
quarter. Yes, exactly. You want
to know who devised the system?
944
01:02:38,099 --> 01:02:41,039
Oh, yeah, that would have been
100%. You people love
945
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:41,939
using it, though.
946
01:02:44,130 --> 01:02:49,440
See? So I had this. I had this.
Yeah, we're the meat, the music
947
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,320
thing is going it's continuing
to go as just takes forever.
948
01:02:52,980 --> 01:02:54,900
Because yeah, don't analyze all
this stuff. And I don't want to
949
01:02:54,900 --> 01:02:58,560
pay $900 a month for a GPU
instance on Linode.
950
01:02:59,219 --> 01:03:05,609
No, no, no, but we have a man.
Okay. So do we. Yeah, that would
951
01:03:05,609 --> 01:03:08,489
be the one I'd love to see.
Next. We'll have the harmony
952
01:03:08,489 --> 01:03:09,689
news. Yeah.
953
01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:13,980
Did we talk about that last week
about the different search
954
01:03:13,980 --> 01:03:18,780
endpoints that there are now so
I don't think maybe, that people
955
01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:22,380
can use now if you're for app
developers that want to index
956
01:03:22,410 --> 01:03:25,470
they want to be able to search
music. There's a search, there's
957
01:03:25,470 --> 01:03:29,370
more, you can search only music
podcast. Now if you want to only
958
01:03:29,370 --> 01:03:33,270
find, you know, music, music
stuff, you want to search within
959
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:36,360
music stuff, and it'll just
return only podcasts that have
960
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:37,890
been tagged with a music medium.
961
01:03:38,730 --> 01:03:41,910
That's that's pretty powerful. I
like that. Yes,
962
01:03:41,909 --> 01:03:43,439
it needs me to use it. Well,
963
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:49,830
well, okay. It's, it's chicken
in the egg, it's always going to
964
01:03:49,830 --> 01:03:53,490
be that if we put on our
homepage or on our stats page.
965
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:59,910
This many feeds, you know, that
music enabled or whatever the
966
01:03:59,910 --> 01:04:03,360
terminology is, and published
that people will start like, oh,
967
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,360
that's just I can go to the
value for Value tab and I can
968
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,870
get the value for value podcast.
You do it for music.
969
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,020
And that'll get me really
interest rate or On Demand.
970
01:04:13,260 --> 01:04:13,710
Right? Yeah.
971
01:04:13,710 --> 01:04:16,410
And then Okay, so we'll just
have the traffic for now because
972
01:04:16,410 --> 01:04:18,900
the only other thing the only
other app that does music that
973
01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:22,830
I'm aware of is curio caster, so
we'll just we'll just keep that
974
01:04:22,860 --> 01:04:23,910
we'll get that started.
975
01:04:24,990 --> 01:04:27,690
Yeah, I thought about putting a
little proof of concept a little
976
01:04:27,690 --> 01:04:32,700
demo app up that would just do
Oh, that's even better than just
977
01:04:32,700 --> 01:04:35,940
a one single page Yeah, you
know, little nothing at that
978
01:04:35,970 --> 01:04:38,400
that nobody's ever going to want
to use as their Yeah, just as
979
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:39,150
your daily show a
980
01:04:39,150 --> 01:04:43,770
different layout. And by the
way, grand dukes or David Foley
981
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:52,620
is remaking the no agenda Roku
app, which guess they upgraded
982
01:04:52,620 --> 01:04:57,330
to the version 2.0 of the
sparkle schnitzel, whatever,
983
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:02,550
whatever code you have to use
for the if it's not schnitzel
984
01:05:02,550 --> 01:05:06,150
sparkle 2.0 Then they took that
off. So, you know, some some
985
01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:10,410
great developer put this
together years ago. So we got
986
01:05:10,410 --> 01:05:12,870
taken down and we can't find the
guy he hasn't, you know, we
987
01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:15,060
don't know where he is. So
David's gonna make a new one.
988
01:05:15,210 --> 01:05:19,140
And he knows how he has all the
2.0 she Parkinsonism sparkle
989
01:05:19,140 --> 01:05:24,270
stuff. And but he's I know he's
listening. He's also then going
990
01:05:24,270 --> 01:05:26,610
to put a music thing in it's
going to be interesting because
991
01:05:26,610 --> 01:05:30,150
the Rogan i It has audience, I
got people saying, what
992
01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:35,730
happened? I always listened to
the Roku. It's weird, but yeah,
993
01:05:36,150 --> 01:05:36,480
they're
994
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:41,460
doing a great music podcast, the
Roku app would be really cool.
995
01:05:42,210 --> 01:05:46,440
Oh, yeah. It's like screaming
for this integration.
996
01:05:47,010 --> 01:05:49,740
Oh, I would I would use I would
actually use that a lot. Because
997
01:05:49,740 --> 01:05:53,310
we we do that a lot here in the
house. We take you know, we'll
998
01:05:53,310 --> 01:05:57,090
use the Spotify app or Pandora
or something like that. Just
999
01:05:57,090 --> 01:05:59,340
have music playing in the
background. Yeah. Oh, I would
1000
01:05:59,340 --> 01:06:00,150
totally do that.
1001
01:06:00,210 --> 01:06:05,730
Well, you can also do it. All we
want is one for value for value,
1002
01:06:05,730 --> 01:06:08,010
though. And David's got to put
that in
1003
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,640
a note you mean I want to I want
to
1004
01:06:11,639 --> 01:06:15,269
see confetti spewing on my TV
screen from a Roku app. That's
1005
01:06:15,269 --> 01:06:16,199
what I want to see.
1006
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:19,319
Oh, you boost straight from the
remote. I haven't able mocha.
1007
01:06:19,770 --> 01:06:22,590
Yeah, maybe you can do that. I
don't know might work.
1008
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,650
And then eventually we'll get
them to put a boost button on
1009
01:06:25,650 --> 01:06:29,520
the remote. No, you don't want
to sit on that.
1010
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,960
You're talking now you're
talking I like that idea.
1011
01:06:34,679 --> 01:06:37,199
Ya know what you mean Ice Cube
soup about proof of concept
1012
01:06:37,199 --> 01:06:42,119
apps. But but if I'm making if I
make it crappy enough, nobody
1013
01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:45,869
will want to want to do so. I
can solve that
1014
01:06:45,869 --> 01:06:48,539
problem. Wow, that's exciting.
Can you also be also gonna put
1015
01:06:48,539 --> 01:06:51,929
it in this in the stats
somewhere put the music feed.
1016
01:06:51,959 --> 01:06:54,959
Okay, let's do that. Let's drive
we got to drive demand. And once
1017
01:06:54,959 --> 01:06:57,509
you here's what happens.
Everyone's sitting around
1018
01:06:57,509 --> 01:07:01,589
waiting for us to do a tape.
Just how it works. Which means
1019
01:07:01,589 --> 01:07:03,989
we just got to do it. Which
means no which means you got to
1020
01:07:03,989 --> 01:07:06,359
do it. This is the problem.
There's only one of you
1021
01:07:08,039 --> 01:07:14,639
know, that's how I started then
Alice rescues me and then and
1022
01:07:14,639 --> 01:07:16,739
then we and then we have a
product this is pretty this is
1023
01:07:16,739 --> 01:07:17,879
how this goes every time
1024
01:07:19,050 --> 01:07:21,510
well there's a lot of smart
people out there who I'm sure
1025
01:07:21,510 --> 01:07:25,740
would love to help with some
time and talent. True. So we
1026
01:07:25,740 --> 01:07:29,100
thank a few people who have been
boosting us live it's been the
1027
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:31,440
numbers are big today.
Something's going on something
1028
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:32,070
in the air.
1029
01:07:32,670 --> 01:07:34,560
Oh yeah, sure. Yeah, that'd be
great.
1030
01:07:34,590 --> 01:07:38,700
I'm not quite sure why but
people are just oh wait yeah,
1031
01:07:38,700 --> 01:07:43,200
Bitcoin of course was Bitcoin.
They're boosting. Boosting the
1032
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:48,540
dip is what they're doing chat F
p back a p bebchuk. There you
1033
01:07:48,540 --> 01:07:52,950
go. problem exists between chair
and keyboard. That's that's what
1034
01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:59,340
we're looking for. That's 20,000
SATs. Thank you Chad. 11,111
1035
01:07:59,340 --> 01:08:03,030
from na millennial. I wish I
really wish someone would
1036
01:08:03,030 --> 01:08:06,210
automate the pod ping process
with a simple scripting language
1037
01:08:06,210 --> 01:08:07,050
like Python.
1038
01:08:07,980 --> 01:08:12,990
It has been there's an example
in the repo. You don't even need
1039
01:08:12,990 --> 01:08:14,400
Python. You can do it with
1040
01:08:14,789 --> 01:08:18,479
the command line or the shell
script shell script. Yeah. So
1041
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:27,989
take that booster lujah booster.
This is 111,111 Satoshis from
1042
01:08:27,989 --> 01:08:34,289
source D lit sticks Archie.
Thank you very much 1212 from
1043
01:08:34,289 --> 01:08:39,689
tone wrecker. There's another
source D with the same 111,111
1044
01:08:39,689 --> 01:08:44,399
Satoshis I think at this point
I'd call out 20 is Blaze only
1045
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:53,819
Impala more sticks and says go
podcast go podcast now we have
1046
01:08:53,849 --> 01:09:01,529
100,000 SATs from Sam Sethi
stars star of many podcasts
1047
01:09:03,149 --> 01:09:06,689
including Sam talks tech that is
what it's called
1048
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,710
yeah in star of many buckets
including ones that never
1049
01:09:10,710 --> 01:09:11,700
published an episode
1050
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,330
like the off the mic one which
was off the mic had never even
1051
01:09:15,330 --> 01:09:15,930
published
1052
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,380
it was aborted before it was
even born Sam says I would
1053
01:09:19,380 --> 01:09:19,710
prefer
1054
01:09:19,710 --> 01:09:23,160
activity pub was defined as a
listener to listener messaging
1055
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:27,510
protocol get slash post and
booster Graham's were defined as
1056
01:09:27,510 --> 01:09:30,960
a comment from listener to
creator Oh, that's an
1057
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,440
interesting point. But agree
adding Mastodon addresses to
1058
01:09:34,440 --> 01:09:39,000
hosts should be a no brainer
also add rel equals me to
1059
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:44,160
profile for verification. Or
inside of podcasts. txt or
1060
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:49,200
podcast person tags. Yes, I
think Sam was seeing how things
1061
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,040
are fitting together. Yeah. Is
he you know everyone's talking
1062
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,720
about his secret project.
1063
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,920
He's supposed to my
understanding is they supposed
1064
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,280
to unveil say That secret
project at Podcast Movement
1065
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:06,780
evolutions like when I don't
know when that is but it's I
1066
01:10:06,780 --> 01:10:07,740
think oh will
1067
01:10:07,740 --> 01:10:12,090
it be with like like a party and
a DJ and drinks no
1068
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,800
booth babes I don't know
1069
01:10:14,700 --> 01:10:16,980
that we call that entertainment
it's
1070
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,340
that's where the billion dollars
in podcasting is going right
1071
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:26,880
Brando sellers 25,000 simple old
boost what we love that sorry
1072
01:10:26,910 --> 01:10:32,280
boost boost boost Brian of
London 1948 I hate to say but we
1073
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,310
could do everything we do on
Mastodon on the hive community.
1074
01:10:35,310 --> 01:10:46,950
Yeah Is there really? Yes if you
get Dave Winer to set up a blog
1075
01:10:46,980 --> 01:10:48,360
on hive I will do it
1076
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,050
too. Right it will challenge
1077
01:10:54,450 --> 01:11:02,130
Okay, what else do we have here
we have the striper boost 70 777
1078
01:11:02,130 --> 01:11:08,010
from Pfeiffer booster bust, and
a test boost from me. Oh, here's
1079
01:11:09,210 --> 01:11:18,090
Dobby das from RSS. blue.com.
Yeah. 21,100 21,001 Thank you
1080
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,480
prime. Prime boost. There you
go. Thank you very much. Very
1081
01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:34,440
cool. Todd Cochran. Whoa,
180,420 20 blades on I am Paula.
1082
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,380
So it's like code man.
1083
01:11:37,860 --> 01:11:44,340
This theory is proven. is proven
fully. I mean, you You abused
1084
01:11:44,340 --> 01:11:47,430
how you talk shit about Todd and
he sends us 180,000 sets. I
1085
01:11:47,430 --> 01:11:48,990
mean, it's just this like, it's
not it's
1086
01:11:49,499 --> 01:11:56,579
not just 180 120 130,000 for 20
Get it, though, just change to
1087
01:11:56,579 --> 01:11:58,949
get Alby because my node
continues to have routing
1088
01:11:58,949 --> 01:12:02,519
issues. But as Adam recommend,
as Brad Adam recommended, I'm
1089
01:12:02,519 --> 01:12:04,799
going to try that for a while
Dave. Looking forward to the new
1090
01:12:04,799 --> 01:12:07,739
pod ping enhancement. Thank you
for providing the stats output
1091
01:12:07,739 --> 01:12:10,589
we're looking for this is going
to prove to be very valuable.
1092
01:12:10,589 --> 01:12:14,369
Hence the nice Satoshi boost
today. See this is that thank
1093
01:12:14,369 --> 01:12:18,029
you. That's value for value.
Beautiful. Thank you very much.
1094
01:12:18,329 --> 01:12:22,979
Glad glad to do it, Todd and
anybody else that needs I mean,
1095
01:12:23,159 --> 01:12:27,359
if you need stuff from the API,
just ask. I will always do my
1096
01:12:27,359 --> 01:12:28,259
best to get it to you.
1097
01:12:28,440 --> 01:12:31,950
I think that's what we have.
From the Live booster grams. I
1098
01:12:31,950 --> 01:12:34,590
think blueberry shows up on your
sheet. So you want to thank
1099
01:12:34,650 --> 01:12:37,590
these people in our value for
value proposition which keeps
1100
01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:41,730
the entire shebang running,
including $90 a month for
1101
01:12:41,730 --> 01:12:46,380
apparently. On house.
1102
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,640
We've got let's see. We got to
pay pals.
1103
01:12:52,020 --> 01:12:54,630
Fiat Fu and fun coupons are
always appreciated.
1104
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:59,700
One is from our buddy, Franco
Celerio from Casta Matic. Hey,
1105
01:12:59,700 --> 01:13:07,710
Franco decent 6969 Nice. He's he
says thank you, Adam, Dave, and
1106
01:13:07,710 --> 01:13:11,010
all the podcasting. 2.0 gang.
Thank you, Franco,
1107
01:13:11,100 --> 01:13:19,590
Franco, Franco, man, let me give
you some noise for that. 6969 He
1108
01:13:19,590 --> 01:13:21,150
didn't say it, but I know you
wanted to hear it.
1109
01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:27,720
Oh, yeah, he wanted to $25 from
Lowell. I'm going to try to say
1110
01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:34,590
his name. Lowell. brillant, b r
i l l a n t e. Thank you. And
1111
01:13:34,590 --> 01:13:36,480
there's no note but thank you lo
really
1112
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:37,650
very much appreciate it.
1113
01:13:40,290 --> 01:13:45,720
We've got we've got lots of
booster grams, but this is going
1114
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:50,490
to be a challenge because I am
but it solved itself. It fixed
1115
01:13:50,490 --> 01:13:52,350
itself. My email wouldn't open.
But now it's
1116
01:13:52,620 --> 01:13:55,080
oh, you know what, you know
what's gonna come next? We
1117
01:13:55,080 --> 01:14:00,930
moved. just moments away from
that. From that happening, we're
1118
01:14:00,930 --> 01:14:01,650
ready for you.
1119
01:14:01,950 --> 01:14:04,710
rebooted right before the show.
So it's fine. It's not going to
1120
01:14:04,710 --> 01:14:06,510
do any isn't there's going to be
zero problems.
1121
01:14:06,540 --> 01:14:08,790
I love the stability of your
Linux.
1122
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:15,450
Yes. Chaos. 99 90,000. SAS to
fountain Thank you. He says
1123
01:14:15,450 --> 01:14:19,050
boosting the NCAA discussion.
We'll see now there you go. I
1124
01:14:19,050 --> 01:14:23,040
know it was boring. But we got a
nice boost for it was my
1125
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,110
discussion of the NCAA of
college football. I
1126
01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:27,060
didn't think that was boring.
Did I say it was boring?
1127
01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:30,360
No. I said it was boring because
I was boring. By the time I get
1128
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:31,290
to the that's pretty
1129
01:14:31,290 --> 01:14:33,930
boring. If you're boring
yourself. That is an issue.
1130
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:40,500
Yeah. Thank you chaos 99
appreciate that. Donkey gave us
1131
01:14:40,500 --> 01:14:43,560
100 SATs and this is below the
limit. But he says I was
1132
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,710
wondering if I could also put my
fountain wallet address in the
1133
01:14:46,710 --> 01:14:49,650
Art Generator. Yeah. What do I
need an ABI wallet which I don't
1134
01:14:49,650 --> 01:14:50,940
have. Yes, you can put that in
the wallet.
1135
01:14:50,940 --> 01:14:56,130
Yeah. If it's your username at
fountain was@fountain.fm Then
1136
01:14:56,130 --> 01:14:56,610
that's fine.
1137
01:14:57,150 --> 01:15:01,650
I think so and you do this also.
Answer CSBs question because he
1138
01:15:01,650 --> 01:15:05,310
was asking about whether or not
you could whether or not there
1139
01:15:05,310 --> 01:15:08,730
was a you could also use other
wallets besides lbu using the
1140
01:15:08,730 --> 01:15:10,980
landing address format in
Fountain is one of
1141
01:15:10,980 --> 01:15:13,020
those well, as long as it has
it, yeah.
1142
01:15:14,460 --> 01:15:16,530
As long as a wallet exists,
well,
1143
01:15:16,530 --> 01:15:20,490
as long as it has the known URL,
thingamabob setup.
1144
01:15:21,300 --> 01:15:22,470
I think it does. Yeah, no, it
1145
01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:25,200
has your Yeah, it has to Yeah.
Because that's how I look up.
1146
01:15:25,350 --> 01:15:26,760
You know, the custom key.
1147
01:15:27,780 --> 01:15:32,160
Yeah. Gene Everett 3333. And he
says, boost
1148
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:35,820
give me this one.
1149
01:15:37,980 --> 01:15:44,220
Sorry. That's no good behind
you. Yes. Up in 1984. Sin is
1150
01:15:44,220 --> 01:15:47,880
3000 SATs and he says, to
clarify on my boost about
1151
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,910
financial ramifications, the
tags discussion gave me an idea
1152
01:15:51,180 --> 01:15:53,130
to avoid those financial
ramifications through
1153
01:15:53,130 --> 01:15:56,760
automation. Human error is
currently costing the company
1154
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:01,080
Fiat fun coupons in this idea
would reduce those errors. Also,
1155
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,440
the idea has maybe a 10% chance
of being implemented but there's
1156
01:16:04,440 --> 01:16:08,340
an r&d position opening up soon
so I'm trying to get on
1157
01:16:08,340 --> 01:16:12,630
management's radar ahead of the
competition. booths, very small
1158
01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:18,540
card. Mere Mortals podcast or
buddy Karen big real estate's
1159
01:16:18,540 --> 01:16:22,470
11 111 through fountain and he
says Good riddance to all the
1160
01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:32,820
good jokes. Yeah, dabba doo
bows, the Bozak send us 1500
1161
01:16:32,820 --> 01:16:37,440
says through fountain No, no,
thank you. Oh, here, we gotta
1162
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:43,080
gotta read this one. It's 777 s
below the limit. He says Venom's
1163
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:46,230
black metal album was one of my
favorites back in junior high.
1164
01:16:46,260 --> 01:16:53,070
Thanks for the nostalgic moment.
Great. Franco Celerio also sent
1165
01:16:53,070 --> 01:16:59,880
us 6969 SATs. Whoa, whoa. And
what else would he use besides
1166
01:17:00,090 --> 01:17:04,230
CAC asthmatic goes to grams, the
latest two booster grants by
1167
01:17:04,230 --> 01:17:07,290
Franco Celerio. The ones without
a message were not set by me.
1168
01:17:07,620 --> 01:17:10,560
Either a rogue AI has taken
control of cast ematic and began
1169
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,740
sending SATs on his own will,
during my debug sessions, or
1170
01:17:13,740 --> 01:17:16,380
somebody is impersonating me and
sending his own money in my
1171
01:17:16,380 --> 01:17:17,850
name. No complaints.
1172
01:17:17,879 --> 01:17:19,769
V. O S. T.
1173
01:17:25,980 --> 01:17:27,360
Bag. Yeah, I'm trying
1174
01:17:27,959 --> 01:17:33,869
Karen Karen's back with another
111 111 He says unjustified
1175
01:17:33,869 --> 01:17:35,969
confidence is actually way
better than justified
1176
01:17:35,969 --> 01:17:39,509
insecurity, you'll live a better
life like that. Even if you get
1177
01:17:39,509 --> 01:17:44,129
yourself into a bit more
trouble. I have, I can't argue
1178
01:17:44,129 --> 01:17:50,099
with that at all. On that, when
it comes to justified belief,
1179
01:17:50,639 --> 01:17:55,079
there's a very good book by
Alvin Plantinga, called warrant
1180
01:17:55,079 --> 01:17:59,129
and proper function. I would
highly suggest it if anybody can
1181
01:17:59,129 --> 01:18:03,809
get there. And what's it about?
It's about why is the
1182
01:18:03,809 --> 01:18:06,869
philosophical foundations for
being confident in a belief
1183
01:18:07,769 --> 01:18:14,489
irrespective of how you get to
irrespective of of the quality
1184
01:18:14,489 --> 01:18:21,059
of the proof. So you can believe
how can we know say how can we
1185
01:18:21,059 --> 01:18:26,159
have confidence that the things
we believe are true in the in
1186
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:32,009
the capital T sense, even if
they are things that don't have
1187
01:18:32,009 --> 01:18:34,259
that sort of empirical truth
about them?
1188
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,770
Sounds like a page turner.
1189
01:18:40,230 --> 01:18:43,620
Yeah, if you're into
epistemology, it will definitely
1190
01:18:43,620 --> 01:18:50,910
be Karen again, he's triple
dipping to 22 to 22 through
1191
01:18:50,910 --> 01:18:54,750
curio caster, and he says, I
watched the FTX debacle on many
1192
01:18:54,750 --> 01:18:58,050
different crypto podcasts and
videos and came away with a new
1193
01:18:58,050 --> 01:19:03,480
takeaway. Many of them had been
sponsored by FTX. backpedaling
1194
01:19:03,480 --> 01:19:06,840
embarrassment. Yeah. So the
advertisement model isn't just
1195
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,710
since aureus, but also can the
cast unpleasant reflections of
1196
01:19:10,710 --> 01:19:14,640
association. And then midway
through, they would start
1197
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,480
talking about their sponsor
crypto.com or Nexo or another
1198
01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:20,340
custodial exchange. Yeah.
1199
01:19:22,260 --> 01:19:25,950
I learned something just as as
data continues to come in, which
1200
01:19:25,950 --> 01:19:29,100
I thought was interesting, which
may help us understand a little
1201
01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:33,600
bit about the the reason why it
could get out of hand like this.
1202
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,120
And all these so called
sophisticated people had not
1203
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,960
really seen that there was no
regulatory oversight. Turns out,
1204
01:19:40,050 --> 01:19:44,580
they spent about $2 billion on
acquiring companies or pieces of
1205
01:19:44,580 --> 01:19:48,810
companies that already had
regulatory approval. They even
1206
01:19:48,810 --> 01:19:52,830
had a heading forwards called
regulatory acquisitions. So they
1207
01:19:52,830 --> 01:19:55,650
were starting to pick up bits
and pieces of regulatory
1208
01:19:55,650 --> 01:20:00,210
approval by buying into or of
wholly acquiring company needs
1209
01:20:00,210 --> 01:20:04,080
that had some form or some
version of it and I can totally
1210
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:09,150
see Sequoia Capital going hey,
you know we spend this money but
1211
01:20:09,150 --> 01:20:11,850
these guys are rolling up the
it's gonna take forever to get
1212
01:20:11,850 --> 01:20:15,210
regulation but with these guys
are rolling it up into one ball
1213
01:20:15,210 --> 01:20:18,900
there'll be the do whatever they
want something like that. So
1214
01:20:18,930 --> 01:20:22,140
if you're buying your way into
the system rather than building
1215
01:20:22,140 --> 01:20:22,320
it,
1216
01:20:22,379 --> 01:20:25,769
but basically the reason why no
one caught it is because it's
1217
01:20:25,769 --> 01:20:29,249
the same way Wall Street. This
is the same way everywhere. It's
1218
01:20:29,249 --> 01:20:30,059
all corrupt.
1219
01:20:30,630 --> 01:20:37,290
Did you did you read? The
initial is the guy that's the
1220
01:20:37,290 --> 01:20:40,110
inner this the caretaker CEO
right now that's doing all the
1221
01:20:40,110 --> 01:20:40,620
auditing?
1222
01:20:40,650 --> 01:20:44,730
Yeah, I know. He's the guy that
that stepped in for Enron.
1223
01:20:44,790 --> 01:20:47,550
Ron. Yeah. That to me,
1224
01:20:47,850 --> 01:20:54,300
says cover up. That guy that guy
was pulled in within seconds.
1225
01:20:54,870 --> 01:20:58,290
Oh, I wouldn't say though he
blasted it from top to bottom.
1226
01:20:58,860 --> 01:21:03,270
Makes me feel even more certain
he's covering up something. He's
1227
01:21:03,270 --> 01:21:05,430
gonna put the blame where the
blame has to go.
1228
01:21:06,030 --> 01:21:09,180
Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah. A
lot of people did
1229
01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:13,530
not go to jail in the Enron
thing. Some people die in jail.
1230
01:21:13,620 --> 01:21:16,650
He's there to clean it. He's the
fees the cleanup guy.
1231
01:21:17,310 --> 01:21:18,420
He's the hatchet man.
1232
01:21:18,450 --> 01:21:21,120
No, he's clean. Oh, no, no, he's
the cleanup. Yeah, he's cleaning
1233
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:25,290
up the bodies. Yeah, he's
rolling stuff up in carpets.
1234
01:21:25,860 --> 01:21:27,990
He's chopping chopping limbs.
1235
01:21:28,110 --> 01:21:33,690
What he says when he points the
thing, his his humongous finger
1236
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:37,830
Aha. Is point gets pointed in
the directions that it needs to
1237
01:21:37,830 --> 01:21:40,830
be pointed at. In order for the
parade. It doesn't get pointed
1238
01:21:40,830 --> 01:21:43,830
that to not have to endure any
real talent have any
1239
01:21:43,830 --> 01:21:47,280
connection to the Democratic
Party. We can't have any elite
1240
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,720
connections. We will throw
celebrities under the bus. So
1241
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:55,950
you know Tom Brady, you know, on
and on and on. That's the
1242
01:21:55,950 --> 01:21:58,170
distraction. That's what all the
news reports are.
1243
01:21:58,650 --> 01:22:02,550
Oh, yeah. And it's. And then on
the other side, you have Mitch
1244
01:22:02,580 --> 01:22:05,550
like Mitch McConnell taking
donations from for his
1245
01:22:05,550 --> 01:22:09,030
leadership campaign. It's all
all over the place.
1246
01:22:09,030 --> 01:22:12,600
But it's so beautiful because
this this entire sham which was
1247
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:17,490
basically run by PR and people
buying into the PR is now being
1248
01:22:17,490 --> 01:22:21,330
cleaned and covered up by the PR
of Oh, geez. Did you hear what
1249
01:22:21,330 --> 01:22:24,630
the guys sorry to make you sound
dumb? Did you hear what the guy
1250
01:22:24,630 --> 01:22:27,840
said? He was from Enron. It was
all a mess. You didn't say it
1251
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,140
like that. But that's the trick.
That's the trick is that yeah,
1252
01:22:31,140 --> 01:22:31,500
you did.
1253
01:22:31,710 --> 01:22:33,090
That's the way I sounded to
myself.
1254
01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:34,800
That's the trick.
1255
01:22:36,180 --> 01:22:39,660
That he got me It sucked me in.
Yeah,
1256
01:22:39,900 --> 01:22:42,540
it's just practice. That's the
only reason and you know what
1257
01:22:42,540 --> 01:22:45,480
I'm doing a little bit of a dive
on the guy. See what's going on.
1258
01:22:47,910 --> 01:22:48,900
Thank you, Karen
1259
01:22:49,740 --> 01:22:53,370
Kyron. Thanks for getting us on.
That. was all about
1260
01:22:54,420 --> 01:22:59,850
12345. From SLC through fountain
it says Argyle Park. Christian,
1261
01:22:59,970 --> 01:23:06,750
Christian NISC industrial metal
techno. Okay. All right, Argyle
1262
01:23:06,750 --> 01:23:10,170
Park. Arg Wiley. Haven't heard
of him, but I'll give him a
1263
01:23:10,170 --> 01:23:16,590
check. SLC again. 12345 Blue
wallet got me my first K and C
1264
01:23:16,590 --> 01:23:21,420
box. Oh, nice. Man burgers for
the fam. The keeper needs time
1265
01:23:21,420 --> 01:23:23,520
to get used to grass fed beef
casting.
1266
01:23:25,890 --> 01:23:27,270
You finish your ground beef.
1267
01:23:27,959 --> 01:23:32,639
I've got one package left I've
been doing. I've been eating a
1268
01:23:32,639 --> 01:23:35,669
hamburger at nine o'clock in the
morning every morning for less.
1269
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:36,990
How you feel?
1270
01:23:38,130 --> 01:23:40,770
I'm feeling good. I think
different windows made a big
1271
01:23:40,770 --> 01:23:41,280
difference. Do
1272
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:45,480
you think you think it has made
a difference? For your next
1273
01:23:45,480 --> 01:23:48,600
order if I just try something
different? Okay, if I can
1274
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,750
recommend holy cow beef, holy
cow. They're in Lubbock, Texas.
1275
01:23:52,140 --> 01:23:56,010
And they said you can buy the
primal ground beef from them.
1276
01:23:56,670 --> 01:24:01,020
And that is ground beef, but it
includes heart liver, the ground
1277
01:24:01,020 --> 01:24:04,650
up all the good stuff in there,
as well with organ meats. Yes.
1278
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,170
And we tried some the other day.
We were both like, Oh, do you
1279
01:24:07,170 --> 01:24:10,740
have to hold our nose? Nuts.
It's just beautiful. You don't
1280
01:24:10,740 --> 01:24:16,260
take this? No. I mean, don't eat
it raw. But but there's no
1281
01:24:16,260 --> 01:24:20,670
there's no real weird taste or
smell or anything like that. And
1282
01:24:20,730 --> 01:24:22,830
okay, both are really good after
eating it.
1283
01:24:23,490 --> 01:24:26,340
Yeah, yeah, I'll definitely do
that. Alright, thanks. Cool.
1284
01:24:26,340 --> 01:24:26,700
That's that's
1285
01:24:26,700 --> 01:24:29,580
for that's for the next one. And
it's a different flavor profile.
1286
01:24:29,580 --> 01:24:32,520
You know, they have different
cows. It'll be fun to try it.
1287
01:24:32,820 --> 01:24:37,320
It's a little more it's probably
a little more irony is a little
1288
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:38,700
bit more of a livery type
1289
01:24:38,700 --> 01:24:42,870
flavor to Tina. I know Tina made
made taco meat with it. And it
1290
01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:46,920
was just like great taco meat.
Oh, sweet. It was spicy because
1291
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:50,820
she spiced it but you know, it
was like, huh, tastes like spicy
1292
01:24:50,820 --> 01:24:55,680
shit liver. No, I didn't have
that. But not at all.
1293
01:24:56,160 --> 01:25:02,070
Anonymous 22 to 22 Thank you
anonymous no note 250 SATs from
1294
01:25:02,250 --> 01:25:04,920
Linda's gone it says we
1295
01:25:10,290 --> 01:25:13,770
David 1000 SATs first boost
beginning
1296
01:25:14,910 --> 01:25:16,050
welcome booster
1297
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,920
3333 from Captain egg head no
note from pod first thank you
1298
01:25:21,150 --> 01:25:27,750
6969 sets from Hey citizen pod
first app. He says the molested
1299
01:25:27,750 --> 01:25:33,030
podcast indicates on the doll
where the insertion Stop. Stop
1300
01:25:33,060 --> 01:25:34,050
really?
1301
01:25:37,500 --> 01:25:43,350
See blind apes in this Hunter
SAS. Oh, that's um I'm getting
1302
01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:45,720
all out of whack here because
I'm reading I'm reading
1303
01:25:45,930 --> 01:25:50,100
I'll say What are you reading?
What are you doing?
1304
01:25:50,970 --> 01:25:54,270
I got out I got my email out of
order. Oh there it is. Okay, I'm
1305
01:25:54,270 --> 01:25:58,260
back. 10,000 SATs from Sir dug
in he just says boost
1306
01:25:59,340 --> 01:26:01,020
boost boost
1307
01:26:01,140 --> 01:26:06,150
floydian slips in his 5000 SATs
through curio caster and
1308
01:26:06,150 --> 01:26:13,950
flooding slip says hugs and
kisses. Oh let's see. Comic
1309
01:26:13,950 --> 01:26:17,040
Strip blogger. Oh, you know
what? Comic Strip blogger? The
1310
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,850
Illuminati. He's Yeah, but he
messed me up because he changed
1311
01:26:20,850 --> 01:26:21,570
his boost amount.
1312
01:26:22,260 --> 01:26:23,940
That's why he's boosting the dip
for us.
1313
01:26:24,090 --> 01:26:26,550
He's boosting the dip. Yes, I'm
gonna come back to comic strip
1314
01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:32,370
blog. Okay. Brown of London and
have the EO 59,913 SAS and I
1315
01:26:32,370 --> 01:26:37,800
says it every Rose has its Thorn
just like every night has his
1316
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,410
Dawn Oh, that's who was as
1317
01:26:41,070 --> 01:26:45,180
warrant Well, no, no point no
it's poison poison poison every
1318
01:26:45,180 --> 01:26:52,830
rose every Rose has a storm song
every cow of all things the
1319
01:26:52,830 --> 01:26:59,580
same. Oh song. I love I love it
when that delay kicks in and
1320
01:26:59,580 --> 01:27:03,270
we're singing if you if someone
asked us to sing that way you
1321
01:27:03,270 --> 01:27:03,930
couldn't do it.
1322
01:27:05,730 --> 01:27:07,530
The Jerry's kid podcast No,
because you're
1323
01:27:07,530 --> 01:27:10,620
exactly right behind me where it
still works a synth Copic
1324
01:27:11,220 --> 01:27:15,540
Oh, beautiful. It says the
beauty of clean feed. It is
1325
01:27:15,540 --> 01:27:21,990
blueberry 33 333 Yay. From the
boost CLI. He says On last
1326
01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:28,740
week's mystery index listing
podcast ID 5793896. Recently, I
1327
01:27:28,740 --> 01:27:32,130
discovered that you can view the
RSS feeds for Mastodon profiles.
1328
01:27:32,490 --> 01:27:35,250
There was only one logical
question to ask can I list a
1329
01:27:35,250 --> 01:27:39,090
mastodon feed in the index?
Setting out like a lead cast in
1330
01:27:39,090 --> 01:27:45,570
a turn to Tarantino film? About
what don't know what he's
1331
01:27:45,570 --> 01:27:50,280
saying. Setting out like a lead
cast in a Tarantino film about
1332
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:56,730
skits or NCIS Oh, I lost me
boobie. I was right there with
1333
01:27:56,730 --> 01:27:57,240
you brother.
1334
01:27:57,510 --> 01:28:03,600
He loves the end No, you know if
no if a mastodon feed magically
1335
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:04,950
has an enclosure you can
1336
01:28:07,230 --> 01:28:09,180
do they have enclosures I don't
1337
01:28:09,180 --> 01:28:13,530
believe so. Oh, interesting.
1338
01:28:13,590 --> 01:28:17,610
Interesting or do they just have
HTML? I bet they just let me
1339
01:28:17,610 --> 01:28:22,530
check right now podcast index
dot socialist grinding we're in
1340
01:28:22,530 --> 01:28:24,540
our galaxy level of service.
1341
01:28:25,770 --> 01:28:27,720
We are Galaxy level we are
1342
01:28:27,990 --> 01:28:31,170
we are the Galaxy levels I just
do wait I've got a follow up
1343
01:28:31,170 --> 01:28:34,740
note from him I've got to follow
Oh Second Part Part Two the
1344
01:28:34,740 --> 01:28:37,710
booster Graham the booster
Graham got cut off and he says
1345
01:28:38,850 --> 01:28:42,360
sitting out with a lead cast in
a Tarantino film about scissors
1346
01:28:42,540 --> 01:28:46,500
a pulled the BTS feed up in
hacked away combining info
1347
01:28:46,500 --> 01:28:49,590
format from both feeds this
homemade one looks like feta
1348
01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:53,010
means monster not a joke. I was
eventually able to make the
1349
01:28:53,010 --> 01:28:57,090
index list public posts, index
list public posts from my
1350
01:28:57,090 --> 01:29:00,720
account. What I found is you can
toot mp3 on Macedon and have
1351
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:04,020
those appear in the index with
enough nudging does producing a
1352
01:29:04,020 --> 01:29:09,990
boost double toot. Oh, is that
is that true?
1353
01:29:10,620 --> 01:29:13,230
I don't know. But I'll tell you
that what I'm learning here is
1354
01:29:13,230 --> 01:29:20,850
that podcast index dot social
RSS feeds are version 2.0. And
1355
01:29:20,850 --> 01:29:27,570
they declare the Yahoo media RSS
namespace
1356
01:29:29,310 --> 01:29:31,380
they should be declaring the
podcasts namespace
1357
01:29:31,589 --> 01:29:33,779
well it's yes of course they
should.
1358
01:29:34,650 --> 01:29:38,250
Well I don't know exactly what
he's what black voodoo he is
1359
01:29:38,250 --> 01:29:46,740
doing. But he for sure as gotten
Toots to show up as episodes in
1360
01:29:46,740 --> 01:29:50,970
the index. What I don't
understand
1361
01:29:51,510 --> 01:29:56,370
Ah wait on that on that that
index ID
1362
01:29:56,940 --> 01:30:01,020
Yeah, just posted it in the in
the chat in the In the chat room
1363
01:30:01,590 --> 01:30:07,890
that's the that's 57938960 Look
1364
01:30:07,890 --> 01:30:08,400
at that
1365
01:30:10,349 --> 01:30:14,849
I don't understand what he's
doing here get spooky going
1366
01:30:14,849 --> 01:30:17,279
around these here parts
1367
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:27,300
so that's that's what plays me
bitch. Oh crap that's
1368
01:30:27,300 --> 01:30:31,650
interesting so he has two
episodes. The first two episodes
1369
01:30:31,650 --> 01:30:35,490
there's something spoken going
and then it goes to spooked out
1370
01:30:35,490 --> 01:30:36,420
social
1371
01:30:37,770 --> 01:30:40,680
look looks like he's embedded
something if I follow the
1372
01:30:40,860 --> 01:30:43,110
mastodon Linko spook does social
1373
01:30:45,090 --> 01:30:48,750
oh well he uploaded audio well
let me take a look at this RSS
1374
01:30:48,750 --> 01:30:53,850
feed is just crazy. When that'd
be nuts if you can tell this
1375
01:30:53,850 --> 01:30:56,730
page is not available. Okay, so
he's hacked something
1376
01:30:57,090 --> 01:30:58,650
nonstandard, I guess.
1377
01:30:58,860 --> 01:31:04,110
www dot feed up behind the
schemes.com/bb fi dot XML
1378
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:06,960
Yeah, that's not as Mastodon
feed.
1379
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,560
We're gonna have to we're gonna
have to figure something out
1380
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:11,130
here.
1381
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:17,460
I don't know also, yeah, I don't
I don't see these posts on his
1382
01:31:17,610 --> 01:31:19,020
Mastodon per se.
1383
01:31:20,010 --> 01:31:28,260
All right, Bouverie code or it
didn't happen. Let's see. See
1384
01:31:28,470 --> 01:31:35,310
Bouverie again. 80,000 Oh, eight
big boob donation he says the
1385
01:31:35,310 --> 01:31:38,820
podcast index boosted through
the podcast index website.
1386
01:31:38,850 --> 01:31:41,070
That's a massive boob donation.
1387
01:31:42,030 --> 01:31:47,070
80,000 Oh, that's I feel like
that's a big baller shot caller
1388
01:31:47,070 --> 01:31:52,590
20 is blades on I am Paula.
That's a double D boost. This
1389
01:31:52,590 --> 01:31:56,670
past Monday we played a game of
chess on air for BTS the next
1390
01:31:56,670 --> 01:32:00,210
day I took the video recording
of the match massage did and
1391
01:32:00,210 --> 01:32:02,400
produced a 45 minute GIF of the
game
1392
01:32:07,650 --> 01:32:11,910
man madman you are a total
madman. Slide that bad boy into
1393
01:32:11,910 --> 01:32:14,790
your chapters when the game
starts and boom, you get real
1394
01:32:14,790 --> 01:32:18,870
time ish playback of chess in a
nude podcast app. This goes out
1395
01:32:18,870 --> 01:32:22,110
the window if you skip around or
listen at a faster rate.
1396
01:32:23,130 --> 01:32:26,520
There's another link here so
he's jacked this on pod verse oh
1397
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:32,730
man, can I love this this is
this is oh there it is. Okay, so
1398
01:32:32,730 --> 01:32:36,210
if I hit this was not able to
prepare Okay, so then I should
1399
01:32:36,210 --> 01:32:41,370
see this in the chapter and it
should be my only logical cause
1400
01:32:41,730 --> 01:32:45,000
to this shouldn't I see the
chapters here somewhere? A
1401
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:46,080
chapter here we go.
1402
01:32:47,310 --> 01:32:50,340
This is not just scissors this
is way beyond scissors this is
1403
01:32:50,340 --> 01:32:50,850
like hedge
1404
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,810
hedge hedge hedge cutters or
whatever you clip oh my goodness
1405
01:32:54,810 --> 01:32:58,440
yes I see it you got a big
1406
01:32:58,440 --> 01:33:04,560
is a 45 minutes that's got to be
like a 300 meg GIF.
1407
01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:11,340
I don't know can I save image
yeah BTS chapter chess long was
1408
01:33:11,340 --> 01:33:14,190
take a look. I'll tell you how
big it is
1409
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,830
I hope people actually enjoy us
doing dumb stuff. Six mags not
1410
01:33:22,830 --> 01:33:29,400
too bad it must be Jeff Jeff
chest Jeff
1411
01:33:29,820 --> 01:33:32,520
is just about 120 it's
1412
01:33:32,879 --> 01:33:38,279
it's a standard size chest Wow,
that's a new one for me.
1413
01:33:39,270 --> 01:33:41,550
All right. You're a madman
1414
01:33:41,580 --> 01:33:44,550
one of the one of these days
people figure out the incredible
1415
01:33:44,550 --> 01:33:51,270
utility of of the chapter images
links all of it. Follow up for
1416
01:33:51,270 --> 01:33:54,450
your advertisers even if you
want people come on get it
1417
01:33:54,450 --> 01:33:55,710
together. We'll be the
1418
01:33:55,830 --> 01:34:00,660
one we're giving you the tools
to go fish, comic strip blogger
1419
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the delimiter 33,015. Sets Yeah.
1420
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:14,610
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1444
01:35:45,210 --> 01:35:49,320
find a link to the Pay Pal for
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1446
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Thanks, James. I'm stealing that
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1450
01:36:08,100 --> 01:36:14,100
you for supporting us very, very
much. Now I gotta keep you on
1451
01:36:14,100 --> 01:36:18,090
time. So if you want to start an
argument, then now's the time.
1452
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,760
Go I gotta I gotta get you back
to the office. Man. You're busy,
1453
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,790
busy. When does this end? We
miss you
1454
01:36:27,150 --> 01:36:30,480
know, I'm, I'm off the rest of
the day. Oh, the rest of the
1455
01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:31,350
day. Oh,
1456
01:36:31,350 --> 01:36:32,370
okay. I thought you started.
1457
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,610
We started late. But we got. We
got? No, I
1458
01:36:35,610 --> 01:36:38,190
thought you had to go late. Or
you had to go back to the
1459
01:36:38,190 --> 01:36:38,760
office?
1460
01:36:39,090 --> 01:36:41,820
No, man, I'm good to go for
today. I'm not and I'm off next
1461
01:36:41,820 --> 01:36:45,180
week for the Thanksgiving. Which
Which brings up a point. Well,
1462
01:36:45,180 --> 01:36:47,070
we're both not be having a show
next week. Yeah, we
1463
01:36:47,070 --> 01:36:51,060
will not be having a show for
the Thanksgiving festivities.
1464
01:36:51,330 --> 01:36:55,110
Quite honestly, I don't know of
any corporation anywhere that
1465
01:36:55,110 --> 01:37:02,130
has a board meeting between
basically on Black Friday. Yeah,
1466
01:37:02,220 --> 01:37:05,880
so So yes, there'll be no board
big now. What's interesting is
1467
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:10,590
the week after that, I hope to
be able to conduct a board
1468
01:37:10,590 --> 01:37:10,920
meeting.
1469
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,300
I think we can and I think it's
going to be similar thing to
1470
01:37:15,300 --> 01:37:18,660
today. I've got to do a
presentation, a actually a
1471
01:37:18,660 --> 01:37:24,120
Bitcoin presentation for a bunch
of lawyers. So it's like a CPE
1472
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:27,540
thing for them. And so I'm gonna
do I'm gonna do that. And
1473
01:37:27,540 --> 01:37:31,170
that's, that's it like 11
o'clock. So I shouldn't be in
1474
01:37:31,170 --> 01:37:33,180
and then just going to take the
rest of the day off after that.
1475
01:37:33,180 --> 01:37:37,440
So I'll be should be able to hit
the show around two o'clock, I
1476
01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:37,830
think
1477
01:37:37,890 --> 01:37:40,290
and that is Friday the 25th.
1478
01:37:42,990 --> 01:37:44,730
No, that's no idea. The second
1479
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:50,760
Okay, so the second so here's
the thing. I may not be capable
1480
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,640
of doing the show. Because
you're having your mouth surgery
1481
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:59,190
that way. On Tuesday. Yeah. So
we're thinking it should not be
1482
01:37:59,190 --> 01:38:02,280
a problem. But let's just know
that we might have to do it
1483
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:02,910
Saturday.
1484
01:38:03,570 --> 01:38:06,810
Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll
just play it by ear as you feel
1485
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:07,950
you know, based on your health.
1486
01:38:08,070 --> 01:38:10,050
It's just if I can talk that's
all
1487
01:38:11,670 --> 01:38:12,840
you can be so goals.
1488
01:38:14,910 --> 01:38:22,320
Oh. I am so anxious about it.
Like are you nervous? Or never
1489
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:25,200
I've never been knocked out.
I've never had an issue. I'm
1490
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:27,330
more nervous about the
anesthesia than about the
1491
01:38:27,330 --> 01:38:30,750
procedure. And then I know what
the procedure is done then I
1492
01:38:30,750 --> 01:38:36,120
just know you know, it's a
process temporaries I have a
1493
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:40,140
bone marrow transplant because
of bone loss. So that has to
1494
01:38:40,140 --> 01:38:46,140
heal. So that takes two three
months, then the actual implants
1495
01:38:46,140 --> 01:38:50,400
come. So it's just a I feel
sorry
1496
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:50,970
for you brother.
1497
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:55,260
No, I appreciate it. But I
should have done this. Honestly
1498
01:38:55,260 --> 01:38:59,580
is eight nine years ago I should
have this is just hey, you know
1499
01:38:59,580 --> 01:39:03,210
some people got a weak heart. My
head's falling apart. We're
1500
01:39:03,210 --> 01:39:11,310
gonna everyone's got something
this is me. This is this is my
1501
01:39:11,310 --> 01:39:16,620
thing. This is my mechanical and
mouth mouth stuff. But it's
1502
01:39:16,620 --> 01:39:19,050
important that's what I have to
do it because it's so important
1503
01:39:19,050 --> 01:39:22,740
for your overall health. It is
really affects your health in
1504
01:39:22,740 --> 01:39:23,730
crazy ways.
1505
01:39:24,450 --> 01:39:28,230
Now you're you're thinking you
were told by the mother dental
1506
01:39:28,230 --> 01:39:30,660
surgeon that this is going to
help your sinuses too, right.
1507
01:39:30,660 --> 01:39:31,050
Yeah,
1508
01:39:31,290 --> 01:39:36,510
I've I've had we couldn't figure
out why I was so allergic after
1509
01:39:36,540 --> 01:39:39,450
never having that in my life and
then moving to Texas and it was
1510
01:39:39,450 --> 01:39:42,510
kind of coincidental. But yeah,
I've had this, this low level
1511
01:39:42,510 --> 01:39:46,350
kind of infection up near my
upper molars and they have been
1512
01:39:46,350 --> 01:39:48,540
just whenever I eat, which I
always thought oh, I'm going to
1513
01:39:48,540 --> 01:39:51,150
restaurant in Austin boy. Oh,
there it is. I've got the
1514
01:39:51,150 --> 01:39:52,350
allergy again. No,
1515
01:39:52,710 --> 01:39:56,790
I'm chewing. Oh, and that's
releasing the Yes. And that
1516
01:39:56,790 --> 01:39:57,180
sends it
1517
01:39:57,180 --> 01:40:00,210
off and then you know then the
sinuses start flowing. Then
1518
01:40:00,210 --> 01:40:00,660
you're done.
1519
01:40:01,230 --> 01:40:06,600
That's amazing. It's crazy how
that we always look for things
1520
01:40:06,630 --> 01:40:11,280
we look for. What are you gonna
cut like causation? For
1521
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:16,590
correlate? You know, we're like,
Oh, yeah. For years. Yeah, it
1522
01:40:16,590 --> 01:40:19,560
makes so much sense that this
was just one thing but it's not.
1523
01:40:20,370 --> 01:40:24,960
And all it took was like a five
minute CT scan, which I'd never
1524
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:27,120
done one of those but that's,
you know you put your head in
1525
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:31,080
there. Okay, and then yeah, just
go take a look. drill right down
1526
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:32,940
through your head. Oh, look,
there's the there's the
1527
01:40:32,940 --> 01:40:36,750
inflammation right on an East
Side view, rotate, enhance zoom,
1528
01:40:37,020 --> 01:40:37,770
arrest him.
1529
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:41,550
Kill us up the address.
1530
01:40:42,270 --> 01:40:44,460
Oh, wait, I see something in the
reflection on the bumper.
1531
01:40:47,250 --> 01:40:51,360
Let's see. But, you know, Alex
Bosworth?
1532
01:40:52,020 --> 01:40:55,050
Yes. From balance of Satoshis.
Yes, the
1533
01:40:55,050 --> 01:40:59,940
balance of Satoshis. The guy
tool. If people don't know what
1534
01:40:59,940 --> 01:41:02,700
balance Satoshi is, it's a it's
a it's a, it's written in
1535
01:41:02,700 --> 01:41:06,600
JavaScript. But it's a command
line tool to let you pull all of
1536
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:10,620
your transactions. It does a lot
of stuff. I mean, it's like a
1537
01:41:10,620 --> 01:41:14,550
Swiss Army knife of lightning
Node Management. But one of the
1538
01:41:14,550 --> 01:41:16,890
things it does it has an
accounting function. So you can
1539
01:41:17,430 --> 01:41:22,110
run baz the name of this named
Toby OS boss space, accounting,
1540
01:41:22,650 --> 01:41:25,860
space, and then a bunch of
options Command Line switches to
1541
01:41:25,860 --> 01:41:30,780
pull down your lightning know
transactions for certain time
1542
01:41:30,780 --> 01:41:34,110
periods and things. Then you can
also say, okay, resolve it to
1543
01:41:34,110 --> 01:41:42,630
fiat, so it will produce this
nice CSV file of, let's just say
1544
01:41:42,630 --> 01:41:45,810
all the transactions for the
month of, of
1545
01:41:45,870 --> 01:41:48,780
of a dozen residue, if it
doesn't run out of memory after
1546
01:41:48,780 --> 01:41:53,190
three hours what exactly I did
running everywhere that I gave
1547
01:41:53,190 --> 01:41:56,910
up on balance of Soto's except
for doing report, I think I
1548
01:41:56,910 --> 01:42:00,900
think report just, I could get a
report out of it, but nothing,
1549
01:42:00,900 --> 01:42:02,730
nothing. I couldn't do anything
else.
1550
01:42:03,270 --> 01:42:06,900
Okay, well, through working with
him on that issue, because I was
1551
01:42:06,900 --> 01:42:13,860
trying to, I will, on a monthly
basis, what I do is download, I
1552
01:42:13,860 --> 01:42:19,530
use bars, or was using bars to
download all the transactions
1553
01:42:19,530 --> 01:42:23,280
out of our lightning node into a
CSV file for the month. So as
1554
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,890
soon as let's just say if it
gets if it's, as soon as the
1555
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:31,080
June is June 1 hits, I'll grab
all of Mays transactions into a
1556
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:36,390
CSV ends in and have because
that way you can have it resolve
1557
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:41,730
the Trent the SATs into Fiat, on
the fair market value of the day
1558
01:42:41,730 --> 01:42:42,930
that the transaction happened.
1559
01:42:43,260 --> 01:42:47,220
Yeah, that's so cool. And boss
does that right? It looks up
1560
01:42:47,250 --> 01:42:51,060
does a date that even the time
or just the day, close price.
1561
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:54,300
I think it's the closing price
of the day. It is through you
1562
01:42:54,300 --> 01:42:56,820
can go through one or the you
can go through coin desk or coin
1563
01:42:56,820 --> 01:43:00,660
Gecko to resolve those amounts.
Right. And it was working fine
1564
01:43:00,660 --> 01:43:04,410
until April. Then when I tried
to pull maize. This has been a
1565
01:43:04,410 --> 01:43:08,670
few months ago. It just crapped
the bed. I mean, like it. It
1566
01:43:08,670 --> 01:43:14,520
crashed, memory exhausted, done.
Okay, so I haven't been using it
1567
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:16,410
since. And I was like, Okay,
well, at the end by that
1568
01:43:16,410 --> 01:43:18,420
sometime by the end of the year,
we have to get this resolved,
1569
01:43:18,420 --> 01:43:22,920
because we'll need to pull our
accounting for taxes. So I just
1570
01:43:23,010 --> 01:43:25,290
started getting in there while I
was working. I couldn't get it
1571
01:43:25,290 --> 01:43:30,690
to work. Through working with
Alex Bosworth in the telegram
1572
01:43:30,690 --> 01:43:34,740
channel. We went back and forth.
And he he found the issue and
1573
01:43:34,740 --> 01:43:38,370
fixed it. Really what was it?
Yes, it was just a memory
1574
01:43:38,370 --> 01:43:42,030
management thing. He was
pulling. He said that it's got
1575
01:43:42,030 --> 01:43:45,330
to do with the way he was
pulling the transit the settled
1576
01:43:45,330 --> 01:43:49,440
invoices out. He was pulling
them all at once, all at once,
1577
01:43:49,740 --> 01:43:53,400
and then filtering, rather than
pulling just the filtered
1578
01:43:53,700 --> 01:43:56,610
invoices. That was That's my
layman's understanding of what
1579
01:43:56,610 --> 01:44:01,170
he was doing. But he pushed a
couple of changes. Finally, we
1580
01:44:01,170 --> 01:44:05,760
found the right combination of
things. And it's fixed this and
1581
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:09,150
then I ran it and took about
nine hours.
1582
01:44:09,870 --> 01:44:11,550
Well, for what for one month?
1583
01:44:11,850 --> 01:44:19,410
No for May through October. So I
ran month 56789 and 10. So it
1584
01:44:19,410 --> 01:44:25,830
took nine and a half hours. And
it produced. Let's see, two is
1585
01:44:25,830 --> 01:44:29,730
like something like two not
2,900,000 transactions.
1586
01:44:30,030 --> 01:44:35,820
Oh man, what's what version is?
is updating? Do you know?
1587
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,960
It's 13 point 5.1 is where the
fixes are.
1588
01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:42,150
I'm on 11 How the hell did that
happen? That's
1589
01:44:42,150 --> 01:44:43,320
no yeah, you're way behind.
1590
01:44:45,210 --> 01:44:47,430
I must have to get a different
repo or something
1591
01:44:48,150 --> 01:44:52,380
I can't find had the stats, but
I can't find it. But I was
1592
01:44:52,380 --> 01:44:55,800
trying to find the exact count.
But there so it had I mean there
1593
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:59,460
were there was a lot of
transactions. So we're we're
1594
01:44:59,460 --> 01:45:03,660
well over Are 5 million
transactions now? In our l&d
1595
01:45:03,660 --> 01:45:05,310
data processing crazy.
1596
01:45:06,990 --> 01:45:12,780
What's even crazier is that no
one no one in any of the initial
1597
01:45:12,780 --> 01:45:16,500
development lightning labs
anywhere, no one has anyone
1598
01:45:16,500 --> 01:45:18,810
really considered that this will
be used for I don't know,
1599
01:45:18,810 --> 01:45:25,560
micropayments. Right. This is
what this is, what gets me is
1600
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:26,580
just insane.
1601
01:45:27,449 --> 01:45:30,929
But it works. That's the, that's
the even more insane part, this
1602
01:45:30,929 --> 01:45:34,169
is how it works. Somehow these
millions of transactions, it
1603
01:45:34,169 --> 01:45:35,639
just keeps on chugging. Well,
when
1604
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:40,380
you do not discount to the
community. You know, I was, I've
1605
01:45:40,380 --> 01:45:42,600
been reading a lot about
networks, particularly, you
1606
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:45,720
know, my interest in networks
has always been there. But, you
1607
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:49,860
know, kicking a G 20, Member off
of Swift, you know, what kind of
1608
01:45:49,860 --> 01:45:53,910
implications does that have, I'm
interested in, in networks. And
1609
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:57,420
ultimately, the network is just,
it's a network, but it's what's
1610
01:45:57,420 --> 01:46:03,840
connected to the network. And
our nodes are peering our
1611
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:08,880
routing with, you know, with the
players with the players. We got
1612
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:12,450
the players, they got the
swagger, you know, we have
1613
01:46:12,570 --> 01:46:16,920
breeze, we got our B, we got an
LM PE with a fountain, it's
1614
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:20,520
like, the the players are
connected, and we got the, the
1615
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:24,330
smaller individual nodes, and
there's all kinds of people like
1616
01:46:25,230 --> 01:46:28,590
Orson Welles or whatever, Steve
Jobs who comes in with 10
1617
01:46:28,590 --> 01:46:32,310
million sat channels, and it's
the community that makes it work
1618
01:46:32,340 --> 01:46:36,090
otherwise, and Trudeau Justin
Trudeau otherwise, it just
1619
01:46:36,090 --> 01:46:40,440
wouldn't work at all. So chapeau
Bye, everybody. Good job,
1620
01:46:40,440 --> 01:46:46,470
everybody. That's a wrap. Well
done for today. Else,
1621
01:46:46,740 --> 01:46:49,170
I had another I had one more
thing I want to throw at you
1622
01:46:49,170 --> 01:46:54,540
ensure I feel like we can do
some sort of lightning liquidity
1623
01:46:54,540 --> 01:46:55,170
checker.
1624
01:46:56,070 --> 01:46:58,950
Oh, yeah. You were paying me
about this.
1625
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:03,780
I don't necessarily want to go
too far down this hole. But I
1626
01:47:03,780 --> 01:47:08,340
feel like that could be a thing
that we have a thing that we
1627
01:47:08,370 --> 01:47:12,510
offer. Because in here, here's
the here's the way it looks to
1628
01:47:12,510 --> 01:47:16,350
me in my head, let me just let
me just hit you with this thing.
1629
01:47:18,300 --> 01:47:24,180
If, if we rule out the big
nodes, so anything, we just look
1630
01:47:24,180 --> 01:47:27,480
at, look at all the we look at
the node IDs is okay, we're,
1631
01:47:27,660 --> 01:47:31,230
we're not going to bother
checking anything that's on LM
1632
01:47:31,230 --> 01:47:36,000
pay for anything that's own lb,
or fountain or whatever. Like we
1633
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:39,690
just kind of toss those out.
What you're left with is going
1634
01:47:39,690 --> 01:47:46,410
to be mostly private nodes. So
people like Todd, who are
1635
01:47:46,410 --> 01:47:50,550
running their own roles and
things like that. If on a
1636
01:47:50,550 --> 01:47:55,800
periodic basis, I don't know,
once every few hours, six hours
1637
01:47:55,800 --> 01:48:01,140
or so we just do a test route to
them and see if a payment would
1638
01:48:01,140 --> 01:48:05,820
fail. We don't we don't even
have to send anything we just do
1639
01:48:05,820 --> 01:48:12,150
a test a route payment. And see
if it would if it would not
1640
01:48:12,150 --> 01:48:20,250
route. We display that status.
Some were to them or I don't
1641
01:48:20,250 --> 01:48:23,040
know, that's the part I don't
know about is how to make that
1642
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:27,240
public. But when we could make
that have that information
1643
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:30,750
available is basically trying to
give an early warning system to
1644
01:48:31,140 --> 01:48:33,300
hey, you're having a liquidity
issue.
1645
01:48:34,140 --> 01:48:38,730
It's a nice thing to do. I'm a
little worried that it's just
1646
01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:45,660
fixing a an ephemeral problem.
This is all going to fix itself.
1647
01:48:46,980 --> 01:48:50,490
You know, Todd's problem fix
itself. She went to UK he went
1648
01:48:50,490 --> 01:48:51,060
to Aldi
1649
01:48:51,810 --> 01:48:54,180
Yeah, I guess I just don't want
to I don't want to force people
1650
01:48:54,180 --> 01:48:55,560
to get a custodial.
1651
01:48:56,010 --> 01:49:02,700
No, no, you see, but Okay, so
you but it's not our job. It's
1652
01:49:02,700 --> 01:49:05,940
the umbrellas of the world to do
a better job to start nines of
1653
01:49:05,940 --> 01:49:09,330
the world. This is their job.
This is their job. And this is
1654
01:49:09,330 --> 01:49:15,630
their job. It's also breeze and
it's also the with the guys. You
1655
01:49:15,630 --> 01:49:19,410
know, the lightning service
providers, those that they're
1656
01:49:19,440 --> 01:49:21,930
ramping up, they're going to
come in and start offering you
1657
01:49:21,930 --> 01:49:25,110
don't have to this is what I
love about the breeze wallet. I
1658
01:49:25,110 --> 01:49:30,060
have $500 in Satoshis in my
breeze wallet. And that's what I
1659
01:49:30,060 --> 01:49:33,780
used to pay for stuff and why do
I love it? I don't have to think
1660
01:49:33,780 --> 01:49:37,440
about the liquidity ever. It's
just there.
1661
01:49:40,830 --> 01:49:43,890
Yeah, yeah, I guess Yeah, I
guess you're right.
1662
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:48,030
Well, I just we have so much to
do and I know you just I know
1663
01:49:48,030 --> 01:49:53,130
you as much you hate as much as
I do. It goes like this. Post a
1664
01:49:53,130 --> 01:49:59,700
picture. Your shirts broken.
Yeah. And you look at it and
1665
01:49:59,700 --> 01:50:02,460
like well Well, you know that
you gotta go through the dance,
1666
01:50:02,460 --> 01:50:05,070
you know what app you're using
where you're boosting from, you
1667
01:50:05,070 --> 01:50:07,770
gotta look, where's your it's
just like, it's all good, I
1668
01:50:07,770 --> 01:50:11,100
think it's going to get solved.
I mean, everything points
1669
01:50:11,100 --> 01:50:18,750
towards liquidity being managed
in an in a, in a self sovereign
1670
01:50:18,750 --> 01:50:22,440
way, that you'll just be renting
liquidity, but it's still your
1671
01:50:22,440 --> 01:50:25,440
keys, you own the transaction
power, etc.
1672
01:50:26,130 --> 01:50:29,940
Yeah. And if your liquidity
provider bails or something, you
1673
01:50:29,940 --> 01:50:34,050
just go get another one. Yeah,
that makes sense. I guess
1674
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:37,830
this is building out so fast. I
mean, I wish I wish I had time
1675
01:50:37,830 --> 01:50:41,970
to learn to code. Because I had
this. Every day I wake up,
1676
01:50:41,970 --> 01:50:47,940
there's another, I was listening
to some podcast. And this is
1677
01:50:47,940 --> 01:50:50,340
actually may be the stuff that
reminded me of, I think, what
1678
01:50:50,340 --> 01:50:54,570
happened to Sphinx, maybe they
were getting into this. And as a
1679
01:50:54,570 --> 01:50:59,310
company that's now going to
electricity providers. So like,
1680
01:50:59,310 --> 01:51:02,970
go to the co op here. And their
pitch is would you like to get
1681
01:51:02,970 --> 01:51:07,590
your money faster? Yeah, and
they all go Yeah, because
1682
01:51:07,590 --> 01:51:12,030
they're dealing with, you know,
month long turnaround times,
1683
01:51:12,480 --> 01:51:15,720
risk of people not paying after
30 days and not being able to
1684
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:19,710
pay. And so they're doing in
essence value for value
1685
01:51:19,710 --> 01:51:24,810
streaming of Satoshis for for
megawatts, or for kilowatts, or
1686
01:51:24,810 --> 01:51:29,160
for watts. And well, and so
yeah, so you fill up your, you
1687
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:35,460
fill up your energy wallet. And
at the, you know, every single
1688
01:51:35,910 --> 01:51:39,300
watt, I guess, every watt that
you your whatever, I guess the
1689
01:51:39,300 --> 01:51:42,630
VA, that's gonna want to be
kilowatts, every kilowatt that
1690
01:51:42,630 --> 01:51:47,790
you use, you pay your eight 910
cents in SATs at the market
1691
01:51:47,790 --> 01:51:54,060
price at that moment, at the at
the moment, you use it as an
1692
01:51:54,060 --> 01:51:58,890
instant clip, and it cuts out
five steps in between. Because
1693
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:02,190
along the way, they've basically
seen that you can do splits,
1694
01:52:02,550 --> 01:52:05,220
because it's not just the
electricity provider, you know,
1695
01:52:05,220 --> 01:52:08,520
there's all these different
pieces down the line, including
1696
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:11,430
where your coop gets their
electricity from, so you can
1697
01:52:11,430 --> 01:52:15,450
split it all off right away and
strip out. I think they
1698
01:52:15,450 --> 01:52:20,850
calculated between 10 and 15%
money that's just lost that
1699
01:52:20,850 --> 01:52:24,270
ultimately, you're paying for as
a customer, because of the
1700
01:52:24,270 --> 01:52:29,280
inefficiencies of the system. So
I just wake up in the middle of
1701
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:33,930
the night with these ideas, and
my urges to call you and I think
1702
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,240
oh no, we already have a great
project going What am I doing?
1703
01:52:37,710 --> 01:52:40,020
I got a great idea. Let's do
energy.
1704
01:52:40,590 --> 01:52:44,250
All I want. My life will be
perfect. If you too. Dave Jones
1705
01:52:44,430 --> 01:52:48,360
could retire from corporate
life. Everything else is fine
1706
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:48,750
for me.
1707
01:52:49,710 --> 01:52:51,240
Yeah, work.
1708
01:52:52,380 --> 01:52:55,560
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Happy Thanksgiving to you my
1709
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:58,050
brother Happy Thanksgiving to
everybody. Thank you all for
1710
01:52:58,050 --> 01:53:03,300
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1711
01:53:03,300 --> 01:53:06,690
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1712
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