Episode 117: Inscrutable

1 00:00:00,659 --> 00:00:06,269 podcasting trombone over January 13 2023, episode 117 We're 2 00:00:06,269 --> 00:00:13,739 inscrutable. Well, hello, once again, it's Friday the 13th Time 3 00:00:13,739 --> 00:00:17,879 for a board meeting of podcasting 2.0, where we discuss 4 00:00:17,879 --> 00:00:21,389 everything that's happening with the advanced podcasting, the 5 00:00:21,389 --> 00:00:25,139 future of passive podcasts within his gear. Now, of course, 6 00:00:25,319 --> 00:00:28,199 we'll talk about the namespace. I think we'll definitely discuss 7 00:00:28,199 --> 00:00:32,099 what's going on podcast index dot social, and I'm Adam curry 8 00:00:32,099 --> 00:00:35,129 here in the heart of the Texas Hill Country in Alabama. Mr. 9 00:00:35,129 --> 00:00:38,099 helipad himself now with Birmingham brunches. Say hello 10 00:00:38,099 --> 00:00:41,429 to my friend on the other end Mr. Dave Jones. 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,310 You call me eating a tease? 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,030 Well, you know the timing of the opening. I mean, I know I 13 00:00:48,030 --> 00:00:51,390 totally misjudged this eat your cheese on your own time. 14 00:00:52,170 --> 00:00:53,040 Okay, all right. I'm 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,500 good. Not getting that I get it. I'm not your keys. Not your 16 00:00:55,500 --> 00:00:57,000 cheese, bro. Who's 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,150 seen the prize speaking of speaking of food, have you seen 18 00:01:03,870 --> 00:01:07,920 egg? Egg pocalypse? The egg short the national egg shortage 19 00:01:07,950 --> 00:01:10,590 Oh yeah. Oh, we discussed it in great length on no agenda 20 00:01:10,590 --> 00:01:12,510 yesterday. You bet I'll see I'm 21 00:01:12,510 --> 00:01:15,120 a day late and $1 show and I can't listen to Thursday's no 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,630 agenda so I never know what you've already covered. Well, we 23 00:01:18,630 --> 00:01:21,000 had the backyard chickens came in handy though. 24 00:01:21,150 --> 00:01:25,950 You know so. So yes, we were up to like eight bucks a dozen here 25 00:01:25,950 --> 00:01:30,480 for for eggs at the at the heb was an interesting timing for 26 00:01:30,510 --> 00:01:34,200 the Dvorak publishing company to release the too many eggs book. 27 00:01:35,190 --> 00:01:37,920 Not an issue. The appendix A Volume 28 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,920 Two not enough eggs. But it was really based upon them having 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,380 chickens and they just they had too many chickens in there for 30 00:01:43,410 --> 00:01:46,230 video chickens lay an egg every single day. And if you got 10 31 00:01:46,230 --> 00:01:48,870 chickens you know at the end of the week, you got 70 eggs to 32 00:01:48,870 --> 00:01:51,060 deal with. That's a lot unless you have a big family. 33 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,660 Okay, we have two chickens. We had three one of them got killed 34 00:01:54,660 --> 00:01:57,960 by the hawk. Yeah, for that. Remember that? So we have we 35 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,440 have two but sometimes they sometimes they produce one egg a 36 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,560 day. Sometimes they produce three so we're averaging two two 37 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,410 eggs a day. So by the end of the week, we have a we have a 38 00:02:07,410 --> 00:02:09,390 doesn't it? Taenia doesn't awake. 39 00:02:09,809 --> 00:02:13,439 How many know how many chickens you have three to Christina 40 00:02:13,439 --> 00:02:17,249 really, really wants to have chickens? I'm like, Do you know 41 00:02:17,249 --> 00:02:19,649 what that entails? And it's not just like you have some fun 42 00:02:19,649 --> 00:02:22,799 chickens. And just go out there with your little basket in the 43 00:02:22,799 --> 00:02:26,159 morning. Cloudy daddy down. Exactly. It's effortless. No. 44 00:02:27,029 --> 00:02:29,789 hassles. The chickens are assholes. They do not want you 45 00:02:29,789 --> 00:02:32,429 rooting around getting their eggs. At least the ones that I 46 00:02:32,429 --> 00:02:32,879 had. 47 00:02:33,510 --> 00:02:35,520 Eyes are Chill, man. totally chill. 48 00:02:35,550 --> 00:02:38,580 Well, you got weasels everywhere. Want to come and eat 49 00:02:38,580 --> 00:02:43,500 them. We have a dog that would probably eat him. Yeah, I'm like 50 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:45,780 you have no you're good, man. You can do this. backyard 51 00:02:45,780 --> 00:02:46,290 chickens. 52 00:02:48,060 --> 00:02:49,890 You're not on my side. Dave Jones 53 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,780 will never touch these chickens. We just we just those have food 54 00:02:54,780 --> 00:02:57,420 in there. Make sure they get water. And they just give us 55 00:02:57,660 --> 00:03:00,810 they give us beautiful that you have a cool brown eggs if you 56 00:03:00,810 --> 00:03:05,280 have a coupe form. Yeah. So it's just like a chicken tractor. So 57 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,900 you can have like a it's like a a frame portable thing. And you 58 00:03:09,900 --> 00:03:12,390 just push it around the yard. You just move it around every 59 00:03:12,810 --> 00:03:13,290 Wow. Okay, 60 00:03:13,290 --> 00:03:15,810 so you'd let them poop in one spot and they move it to another 61 00:03:15,810 --> 00:03:16,230 spot. 62 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,600 Yeah. And then the day is slowly composts your entire yard and 63 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,320 makes it beautiful. 64 00:03:22,470 --> 00:03:23,220 Oh, I 65 00:03:23,219 --> 00:03:26,849 see. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. There is easy, man. There's so 66 00:03:26,849 --> 00:03:27,959 you have children around 67 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,570 the house who can afford to do that? You know who's going to be 68 00:03:30,570 --> 00:03:32,400 doing it? If we'd have chickens here? It'd be me. 69 00:03:32,430 --> 00:03:38,010 Yeah, you Yeah. You and Phoebe? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we'll be 70 00:03:38,010 --> 00:03:40,890 intently watching waiting for one of the chickens to she will 71 00:03:40,890 --> 00:03:42,870 be all over all over in escape. And 72 00:03:44,069 --> 00:03:46,349 although I have to say you know, we did that three week boot 73 00:03:46,349 --> 00:03:48,029 camp, man. I am impressed. 74 00:03:48,750 --> 00:03:49,830 What do you mean boot camp? 75 00:03:50,250 --> 00:03:52,530 We sent Phoebe to a three week bootcamp. Oh, 76 00:03:52,530 --> 00:03:54,060 yeah. You told me about that. All right. 77 00:03:54,090 --> 00:03:56,820 I'm impressed. Is she is in 78 00:03:56,819 --> 00:03:58,349 not barking. Oh, no, 79 00:03:58,380 --> 00:04:01,440 no, it's she's, well, she has a command for that. You know, she 80 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,800 can bark and she I want her to bark if there's something that 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,590 to bark about. And if I say quiet then she needs to stop 82 00:04:07,590 --> 00:04:11,250 barking that we have about a 60% hit rate on that. Everything 83 00:04:11,250 --> 00:04:15,390 else. Everything else is almost 100 Like Phoebe come she can be 84 00:04:15,390 --> 00:04:19,830 halfway like a football field away. She'll come. Well, yeah, 85 00:04:19,830 --> 00:04:21,810 no, that's that was surprising. 86 00:04:22,380 --> 00:04:24,090 So how old is Phoebe? 87 00:04:24,090 --> 00:04:27,240 I think about five I'm not sure exactly. And she's always been 88 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,110 an outdoor ranch dog. You know, God knows what her what our 89 00:04:31,110 --> 00:04:37,230 history is. And my favorite is place. She has a little bed you 90 00:04:37,230 --> 00:04:40,440 know raised when it was raised beds. And she right away. She'll 91 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,960 run over to it she lays down on and she knows that's where she 92 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,130 has to stay. So when people come in. We had eight people over the 93 00:04:47,130 --> 00:04:49,800 other night including the pastor's wife who Phoebe tried 94 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,490 to bite last time fantan Oh, that's what sent her to boot 95 00:04:53,490 --> 00:04:54,330 camp believe. 96 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,020 Yes, first impressions are great. 97 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,340 But we didn't under Stan is that we thought she was just calm but 98 00:05:02,340 --> 00:05:05,160 she was really the opposite of calm and just getting really 99 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,010 more nervous and nervous. And then when people are leaving and 100 00:05:08,010 --> 00:05:10,770 standing around her and go by Phoebe and put your your your 101 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,310 your, your palm down on top of her head. She's like, No, no, 102 00:05:14,310 --> 00:05:17,610 no, no, no, no, she didn't really bite. She It's scary. 103 00:05:17,610 --> 00:05:20,940 It's scary for anyone. 200 Sure, yeah. And 10 pound dog, you 104 00:05:20,940 --> 00:05:22,260 know. Anyway, 105 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:25,110 now she's been Is This the hardest thing to tell people? 106 00:05:25,110 --> 00:05:25,620 It's like, 107 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,270 don't touch my cute dog. 108 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:33,119 Yeah, I promise. I promise you my dog is very sweet. It's like 109 00:05:33,209 --> 00:05:37,769 it's just the sheer size of it is intimidating in tears. 110 00:05:38,399 --> 00:05:41,249 Well to see the problem is Phoebe has such a cute face and 111 00:05:41,249 --> 00:05:44,519 was like ah, and they just want a hugger and rubber and 112 00:05:44,519 --> 00:05:48,539 everything and you know then if she if she makes you know, she 113 00:05:48,719 --> 00:05:50,909 opens her mouth she got a healthy bark you know? It'll 114 00:05:50,969 --> 00:05:52,709 it'll change your mind real quick. 115 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,640 It was a trap dog. Oh, no. 116 00:05:57,269 --> 00:06:00,719 Well, this is how we got trapped into take into saving her. 117 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,950 Oh, oh, yeah. Yes, the trap Yeah. 118 00:06:07,470 --> 00:06:10,560 We begin with a battle over paternity leave. 119 00:06:11,010 --> 00:06:14,790 maternity leave. I deserve it. Yeah, listen, man. I should have 120 00:06:14,790 --> 00:06:19,110 this day off. I have privileged I have two beautiful Yeah, this 121 00:06:19,110 --> 00:06:22,230 unit. This is a fact when Laborat when you rescue a dog, 122 00:06:22,740 --> 00:06:27,240 then you're like, you know the heroes of anywhere. So Fletcher 123 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,440 made this song formula. 124 00:06:29,310 --> 00:06:30,240 You get cred 125 00:06:30,330 --> 00:06:35,520 is what it was. Just what it was crap dog crap dog like a trap 126 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:35,910 baby. 127 00:06:37,860 --> 00:06:40,080 Your doggy daddy is what you are. 128 00:06:40,740 --> 00:06:43,470 Yeah, you take her anywhere and oh, what a beautiful dog 129 00:06:43,470 --> 00:06:46,260 yesterday. She's a rescue. Oh, can I have sex with you? I mean, 130 00:06:46,260 --> 00:06:52,410 that's literally how it goes. Even if we get one from from an 131 00:06:52,410 --> 00:06:56,400 official dealer next time no rescue. Sorry. Dealer told us 132 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:01,230 what they are. 1000s of dollars you get interviewed. I don't 133 00:07:01,230 --> 00:07:01,890 like that at all. 134 00:07:02,399 --> 00:07:05,969 You get credit. You get street cred for that. He got all over 135 00:07:05,969 --> 00:07:06,479 the place. 136 00:07:06,539 --> 00:07:09,269 She's going she's about to eat someone's dog. Um, so she's 137 00:07:09,299 --> 00:07:12,119 she's a rescue. Okay. It's all right here. She can I think 138 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:19,080 you get more cred on I think you get more street cred. Today for 139 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,440 a for a rescue dog than you do for adopting a child. 140 00:07:24,870 --> 00:07:26,970 I think you're right. I think you're right. 141 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,160 You're like, oh, yeah, we adopted and they're like, Okay, 142 00:07:29,370 --> 00:07:34,020 that's great. That you say yeah, get a rescue dog. Oh, it's so 143 00:07:34,020 --> 00:07:36,450 beautiful. Y'all are awesome. 144 00:07:36,810 --> 00:07:37,770 You're going to heaven. 145 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,280 You're gonna have crowns. 146 00:07:41,910 --> 00:07:45,780 Speaking of which I set up pastor Jimmy here in the bridge 147 00:07:45,780 --> 00:07:50,010 church in Fredericksburg with his first with this podcast. 148 00:07:50,820 --> 00:07:53,310 And what is the content of this podcast? His sermons? 149 00:07:53,790 --> 00:07:59,070 No, no, no, he's doing a podcast with the dame a net his his wife 150 00:07:59,610 --> 00:08:03,210 and it's called well let me tell I don't want to misquote it. 151 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,800 I'll tell you exactly what it is. It does about 45 minutes 152 00:08:09,660 --> 00:08:13,770 once a week why is it Why is curio caster not happening for 153 00:08:13,770 --> 00:08:15,900 me? Hello curio caster 154 00:08:17,430 --> 00:08:18,390 curio 155 00:08:18,420 --> 00:08:22,140 Hello curio there we go Hello curio cash it's called living up 156 00:08:22,140 --> 00:08:29,100 in a down world Oh yeah, no Oh no, I I hooked him up I got Jeff 157 00:08:29,100 --> 00:08:31,800 Smith to do to do an opening jingle hey 158 00:08:37,589 --> 00:08:45,989 no know. He's like right out of the gate. first podcast. This is 159 00:08:45,989 --> 00:08:53,879 too much privilege. He's got to earn it the hard way. So I 160 00:08:53,879 --> 00:08:57,029 expect to hear Okay, welcome to our podcast 161 00:08:57,420 --> 00:09:01,290 close in. Very interesting. You say that because of course, I 162 00:09:01,290 --> 00:09:03,300 said look, I'm going to put the first couple of them together 163 00:09:03,300 --> 00:09:06,330 for you. You know, I'll get the sound right. They have some 164 00:09:06,330 --> 00:09:08,460 issues with you know, the room was a little gloomy. He's a 165 00:09:08,460 --> 00:09:15,630 musician so he understands doing stuff. But yeah, he This isn't 166 00:09:15,630 --> 00:09:18,330 this is my main note to him before you start the show. You 167 00:09:18,330 --> 00:09:21,120 gotta listen to the jingle and get into the mood here. 168 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:30,090 This is Jimmy Pruitt and Annette Pruitt and we are living up and 169 00:09:30,210 --> 00:09:32,190 down world's not in the mood. 170 00:09:32,879 --> 00:09:35,489 He's not quite in the groove not in the groove. Exactly. 171 00:09:36,990 --> 00:09:40,500 You gotta listen to 100% Retro to get go and get blood pumping. 172 00:09:40,980 --> 00:09:44,340 So I you know, so I said look, I want you to learn how to watch 173 00:09:44,340 --> 00:09:46,200 this. I want to learn how to do everything I want to do I want 174 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,720 to learn how to do everything. And he wants value for value and 175 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,530 everything going on. So I say why don't you try rss.com 176 00:09:52,620 --> 00:09:58,260 Because they have a real simple partnership with with Albie, and 177 00:09:58,260 --> 00:10:00,360 you'll be able to set any say all that went well. I'll set it 178 00:10:00,390 --> 00:10:06,930 all up and everything. And then when it came to transcripts, it 179 00:10:06,930 --> 00:10:12,720 was very confusing. I don't know if rss.com is doing them, right, 180 00:10:12,750 --> 00:10:16,590 because they have this box and you're supposed to paste it in 181 00:10:16,590 --> 00:10:21,870 there. And so I random URL of the file No, no, the trans the 182 00:10:21,870 --> 00:10:25,560 transcript. And it's very thin and it's very unclear if that's 183 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:31,170 supposed to be an SRT file or what it is. So I basically baked 184 00:10:31,170 --> 00:10:34,680 an SRT file. So here you go. Paste it now it doesn't show up. 185 00:10:35,070 --> 00:10:38,430 So I'm not sure I'm not even sure if they if they if they 186 00:10:38,430 --> 00:10:42,750 have it as an actual if they're implementing it correctly, it 187 00:10:42,750 --> 00:10:45,510 was disturbing. So I'm I got to figure out, 188 00:10:45,930 --> 00:10:49,920 but here we go living up in a down world. Federal index. 189 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,710 That's That's all. Downside. 004 190 00:10:52,740 --> 00:10:57,930 By the way, very pleasant. He he published the first episode 191 00:10:58,170 --> 00:11:02,730 showed up through the magic of pod ping showed up on the index, 192 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,260 like within five minutes. 193 00:11:04,860 --> 00:11:08,460 So you did so you didn't even add the feed to the index? Nope. 194 00:11:08,490 --> 00:11:09,930 Nope. sucked it in sucked 195 00:11:09,930 --> 00:11:14,070 in and right away. That was that was very pleasant. live inside 196 00:11:14,070 --> 00:11:15,330 see one split? 197 00:11:17,220 --> 00:11:20,130 I think that well, that split will be for Jeff Smith probably 198 00:11:20,610 --> 00:11:26,280 says living up and down world is the split. Interesting. Okay. 199 00:11:26,310 --> 00:11:26,670 Oh, maybe 200 00:11:26,670 --> 00:11:29,070 Oh, no. Oh, wait, wait, wait, no, maybe there's no split in 201 00:11:29,070 --> 00:11:31,440 there that that I got to work on all that. I don't think the 202 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:32,370 split is in yet. 203 00:11:32,940 --> 00:11:36,360 And on that's Well, this brings up a good point. Because I'm 204 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,300 exploring this, this new podcast, you know, like, because 205 00:11:39,300 --> 00:11:42,720 it's when you see the money, we see the birth of a new podcast, 206 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:48,540 it's a time of joy. And yes. exploration. And it's 207 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,560 interesting to me that I wonder if rss.com can do splits. See, 208 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:54,870 that's gonna be the issue. Well, forget 209 00:11:54,870 --> 00:11:58,050 the split for a second. And forget, Okay, forget and forget 210 00:11:58,050 --> 00:12:03,480 the split the transcript transcript is it's, it's wrong. 211 00:12:04,020 --> 00:12:07,440 And and you know, now I'm kind of regretting should we should 212 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,800 I've sent them to rss.com? Because if they can't do splits, 213 00:12:13,650 --> 00:12:14,310 you know, let's 214 00:12:14,310 --> 00:12:16,020 see. Let me look in 215 00:12:16,050 --> 00:12:17,940 what we don't have. We don't have to deconstruct the whole 216 00:12:17,940 --> 00:12:20,070 thing. What I did 217 00:12:20,100 --> 00:12:24,090 do, though, here's it here's a okay, they are they've taken the 218 00:12:24,090 --> 00:12:24,960 transcript. 219 00:12:25,769 --> 00:12:28,739 And the jam, they're in somewhere else haven't? They've, 220 00:12:28,739 --> 00:12:29,159 it's got 221 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:35,460 a URL of its own apollo.rss.com/transcriptions/seven 72911. 222 00:12:35,490 --> 00:12:43,290 Okay. So then the type is, is text slash plain? Which is, but 223 00:12:43,290 --> 00:12:44,730 if you Okay, we just 224 00:12:45,450 --> 00:12:48,480 the SRT file with the with the time codes. 225 00:12:49,170 --> 00:12:52,080 So here's a here's a, here's a big problem with this 226 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:59,010 transcript. Because if you click if you go to that URL, the only 227 00:12:59,010 --> 00:13:06,510 what you get is a is a string of text that says https colon slash 228 00:13:06,510 --> 00:13:10,380 slash keys dot open pgp.org/with. This there's no 229 00:13:10,410 --> 00:13:14,430 transcript here. It's just a URL. Wow. Okay. Well, that's not 230 00:13:14,430 --> 00:13:17,220 somebody pasted something wrong into a box is what it looks like 231 00:13:17,220 --> 00:13:17,670 to me. 232 00:13:18,990 --> 00:13:23,760 Well, I'm gonna have to dive into it. Okay. Because I said 233 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,530 just as not a private key if something 234 00:13:27,420 --> 00:13:28,890 wouldn't be my private key. 235 00:13:30,030 --> 00:13:33,570 What even is this? What is what I don't know is that open PGP? 236 00:13:34,470 --> 00:13:40,440 I don't know. I know I copied the I sent them the transcript 237 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,780 from otter.ai 238 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:47,670 If this is otters transcript otter is is got brain damage 239 00:13:47,700 --> 00:13:49,590 because this is not This is weird. 240 00:13:49,620 --> 00:13:53,580 Okay. Well, that's all stuff I got to look at. Okay. But 241 00:13:53,580 --> 00:13:58,560 anyway, yeah, there's no splits is a problem. That's a problem. 242 00:13:59,009 --> 00:14:00,509 Maybe they can maybe they can't explain. 243 00:14:00,540 --> 00:14:03,300 I honestly I don't I haven't a lot. I mean, I haven't done he 244 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:05,490 did it all himself, which I'm really happy. You know, it's 245 00:14:05,490 --> 00:14:08,040 like, oh, man, that that worked. I'm just kind of walking him 246 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:12,330 through when he has a question. But we have a we have a call 247 00:14:12,330 --> 00:14:13,590 setup for Monday. 248 00:14:14,070 --> 00:14:17,940 Okay, Nathan, Nathan gather I just posted here's what the 249 00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:22,110 rss.com Transcript UI looks like add a transcript to your episode 250 00:14:22,110 --> 00:14:24,780 that will be included in your RSS feed and displayed on your 251 00:14:24,780 --> 00:14:29,190 public episode Page Check out this post rss.com on how to 252 00:14:29,190 --> 00:14:31,200 transcribe your episodes for free 253 00:14:31,350 --> 00:14:35,520 nobody down the below it says you can use otter so I did it 254 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:41,640 and I sent him the text the full text of the of the SRT file with 255 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,390 the time codes every two lines the way I do it for everything 256 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,560 that did not end up in the right spot, okay, that we got 257 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,570 stuff to work on anyway. It was reasonably pleasant. But just 258 00:14:54,570 --> 00:14:57,150 hadn't figured out I hadn't done the I hadn't looked into the 259 00:14:57,150 --> 00:15:00,000 split yet. But I have to do that for Jeff Smith because he did 260 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,060 The opening and that's the deal, right? If he gets a percentage, 261 00:15:04,410 --> 00:15:11,340 let's see and value for value he can rss.com do splits in the 262 00:15:11,340 --> 00:15:16,440 value blog. Real time I'm asking Alberto if rss.com can do 263 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:16,920 splits. 264 00:15:16,950 --> 00:15:20,490 Dred Scott says if you open the PGP key and notepad, it's Adam 265 00:15:20,490 --> 00:15:25,830 C's public key word. He probably took 266 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,570 you emailed him the transcript and he copied and pasted 267 00:15:30,630 --> 00:15:40,110 my public your public key. Jesus helped me out Holy Spirit. Bring 268 00:15:40,110 --> 00:15:42,510 me some solace here. To work on that. 269 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,210 Very public key into a transcript. Water into one But 270 00:15:48,210 --> 00:15:51,540 isn't it interesting how, how things can you know how people 271 00:15:51,540 --> 00:15:54,600 interpret stuff, right? It's like landing the plane Tesla 272 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,810 teaching the stewardess how to fly the plane. Oh, anyway. 273 00:15:59,310 --> 00:16:01,080 I've done Microsoft Flight Simulator. 274 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,070 Anyway, you know who's not going to have gonna have a problem 275 00:16:08,070 --> 00:16:11,310 with any of that. Oh, wait, before I go there before I 276 00:16:11,310 --> 00:16:14,850 wanted to set the record straight. I made a comment on 277 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,440 last week's pod news weekly review with James cribben. And 278 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:26,400 Sam Sethi. And James misinterpreted that the story 279 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,300 was that there are some hosting companies who are serving a 280 00:16:30,300 --> 00:16:36,570 separate RSS version to Spotify. That includes chapters in the 281 00:16:36,570 --> 00:16:40,920 way Spotify wants them. Yeah, with the dumb marker thing. And 282 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,370 my comment was, that's rude. And it's counterproductive to 283 00:16:44,370 --> 00:16:47,520 everything we're doing. Now James immediately thought I was 284 00:16:47,850 --> 00:16:53,100 talking about him. But I wasn't. Oh, I don't remember which 285 00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:55,710 hosting companies are doing this. But I think that's really 286 00:16:55,710 --> 00:16:57,480 a shitty thing to do. Honestly. 287 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,360 They don't care. They don't get they are they they're losing. 288 00:17:03,390 --> 00:17:04,680 They're losing their shirt 289 00:17:05,039 --> 00:17:08,009 that nobody is talking about Spotify. I'm talking about the 290 00:17:08,009 --> 00:17:12,239 hosting company that did this. There's a hosting comm or two 291 00:17:12,239 --> 00:17:17,009 hosting companies who specially for Spotify are sucking them off 292 00:17:17,009 --> 00:17:19,889 and giving them a special version. So you can use chapters 293 00:17:19,889 --> 00:17:22,079 on Spotify. That's pisses me 294 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,920 off. Oh, yeah. You'd say yeah, you think you should? They 295 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,540 should have just given them the cold shoulder. 296 00:17:27,749 --> 00:17:32,129 Yeah. eff off. Because if you do that, that, you know, why just 297 00:17:32,129 --> 00:17:35,069 do everything Spotify wants, they're not going to buy you 298 00:17:35,069 --> 00:17:42,239 okay. Yeah, yeah, there might have been might have been 299 00:17:42,239 --> 00:17:44,939 Captivate, I'm not sure I can't remember who it was doesn't 300 00:17:44,939 --> 00:17:48,389 really matter. It's just I just, I just want to make the point. 301 00:17:49,769 --> 00:17:56,189 That that's not cool. Now, they don't love you, okay, they don't 302 00:17:56,189 --> 00:17:58,379 care about you. They're not going to do anything for you. 303 00:17:58,379 --> 00:18:00,869 And all you're doing is counterproductive to the actual 304 00:18:00,869 --> 00:18:02,219 standard that we're using. 305 00:18:02,639 --> 00:18:05,099 The issue there is that they don't give anything. They don't 306 00:18:05,129 --> 00:18:07,949 don't do anything for anybody else. Why would we do anything 307 00:18:07,949 --> 00:18:11,249 for them? I just it's not a two way street. You know, I mean, 308 00:18:11,249 --> 00:18:15,329 like, where's the when's the last time Spotify gave us an 309 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,529 awesome, open standard that we could all adopt and use now, but 310 00:18:20,309 --> 00:18:22,829 this is they don't know what they do. 311 00:18:23,639 --> 00:18:30,029 Know. But the issue is much deeper for me. We these chapters 312 00:18:30,029 --> 00:18:36,839 didn't even exist. And now, you know, now there's companies were 313 00:18:36,839 --> 00:18:39,989 like, Oh, well, you know, Spotify wants to do it this way. 314 00:18:40,410 --> 00:18:43,950 Well, that's how you does it. Some people love Yes. He says 315 00:18:43,950 --> 00:18:47,730 some people love the YouTube thing. I think it's janky. Yeah, 316 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:48,630 it just GenX up. 317 00:18:48,660 --> 00:18:51,540 You can't you can't do you can't do your proper trance. You can't 318 00:18:51,540 --> 00:18:55,830 do a proper titles. You can't do proper images, a whole bunch of 319 00:18:55,830 --> 00:18:56,730 stuff you can't do? 320 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,060 Well, let's just say okay, let's let's go down. Let's say this, 321 00:19:00,300 --> 00:19:03,810 right, instead of chat. Okay, chapters, all you have to do is 322 00:19:03,810 --> 00:19:09,060 put a bunch of timestamps into your, into your show notes, and 323 00:19:09,060 --> 00:19:13,110 then we can and then we'll parse those out and create the 324 00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:15,780 chapters from that. So see there, you know, that's great. 325 00:19:15,780 --> 00:19:19,440 It's, it's wonderful. Okay, what about transcripts, put your 326 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,930 entire transcript in your show notes, and we'll parse out all 327 00:19:21,930 --> 00:19:25,410 the timestamps and do all and do all this kind of stuff. Okay, 328 00:19:25,410 --> 00:19:26,760 what about you know, 329 00:19:27,810 --> 00:19:29,310 value for value, value 330 00:19:29,310 --> 00:19:34,590 value? All that crap? Why are we parsing stuff out of show notes? 331 00:19:34,590 --> 00:19:37,260 Yeah. It's like, it's like, Okay, dump all of this 332 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:38,400 unstructured data? 333 00:19:38,550 --> 00:19:40,890 No, but no, but what I understand they're literally 334 00:19:40,890 --> 00:19:45,480 taking the chapter file, and then dumping it into show notes 335 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,580 with time codes for Spotify. Ya 336 00:19:47,579 --> 00:19:52,139 know, so that it looks like crap. The proper way to do that, 337 00:19:52,439 --> 00:19:58,739 in me proper in as far as like, with some elegance to it is to 338 00:19:58,739 --> 00:20:04,349 take is to just sit Port and actual structured schema file 339 00:20:04,739 --> 00:20:07,859 and pull though. And if you want to display the chapters as 340 00:20:07,859 --> 00:20:12,329 markers in a text fashion, just parse that, that thing that's 341 00:20:12,329 --> 00:20:15,659 already there, then display them in the show notes if you want 342 00:20:15,659 --> 00:20:17,189 that don't do it the other way around. 343 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,550 But the reason that whoever's doing this, the reason they're 344 00:20:20,550 --> 00:20:24,600 doing it is because they, it's marketing, hey, we are chapters 345 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,020 work in Spotify. And what happens then is then the next 346 00:20:28,980 --> 00:20:31,350 hosting companies like well, you know, people are going there, 347 00:20:31,380 --> 00:20:34,140 because their chapters work in Spotify to new thing on Spotify, 348 00:20:34,140 --> 00:20:34,560 we better 349 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,450 do it, but nobody gives 350 00:20:36,450 --> 00:20:38,220 a crap was clearly someone to us. 351 00:20:38,850 --> 00:20:41,130 And nobody gives a crap about whether their chapters work on 352 00:20:41,130 --> 00:20:44,220 Spotify, if you can, I will make this I will make this bold 353 00:20:44,220 --> 00:20:47,190 prediction, if you are not is no this is not prediction. This is 354 00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:49,860 a bold state, there's a statement. I'm going to, I'm 355 00:20:49,860 --> 00:20:55,890 going to declare this. If you care at all about fill in the 356 00:20:55,890 --> 00:20:59,970 blank thing about podcasting and Spotify. If you are a podcaster, 357 00:20:59,970 --> 00:21:05,940 and you care about x in Spotify. It's not it doesn't have 358 00:21:05,940 --> 00:21:08,130 anything to do with with chapters, I can promise you 359 00:21:08,130 --> 00:21:13,440 that, oh, you care about like monetizing, or it's all it's all 360 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,620 the square ads or whatever. You don't give a crap about 361 00:21:16,620 --> 00:21:20,490 features. Nobody's putting all the stuff that they that they're 362 00:21:20,490 --> 00:21:27,150 spending time on. Polls, q&a, nobody uses that stuff. Nobody 363 00:21:27,150 --> 00:21:31,020 cares. Because I mean, the only people that are on Spotify are 364 00:21:31,020 --> 00:21:32,340 just trying to make a buck. 365 00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:37,470 No, I disagree that people are on Spotify, because they believe 366 00:21:37,470 --> 00:21:40,200 that the audience is on Spotify, which of course, there is a 367 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,650 large portion of people who listen to podcasts on Spotify, 368 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,620 but nobody pays for them there. They also as a whole ad 369 00:21:46,620 --> 00:21:50,490 supported, there's no there's no, there's nothing. Nobody goes 370 00:21:50,490 --> 00:21:56,040 to no Spotify user is no Spotify listener, whether it's audio 371 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,490 book, or whether it's audiobooks or podcasts or music or 372 00:21:59,490 --> 00:22:04,440 anything. No Spotify listener cares about any of the features 373 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,100 of the app. Oh, 374 00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:08,610 no, no, no, no, I agree. I agree with you there. I agree with you 375 00:22:08,610 --> 00:22:12,720 there. I'm just saying, Look, we're not to make a big deal of 376 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:18,990 it outside of, I just find that it's rude if you're going to go 377 00:22:18,990 --> 00:22:24,450 around the standard to kowtow to anybody. And screw you. So 378 00:22:24,450 --> 00:22:25,560 that's my that's my point. 379 00:22:27,780 --> 00:22:29,340 Your last Yeah, Spotify. 380 00:22:30,869 --> 00:22:34,049 Well, I mean, now that the headline is clearly every 381 00:22:34,049 --> 00:22:36,929 podcast listener wants video, we need video. 382 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,070 Yeah, yeah. Because because they can't make money with audio. 383 00:22:42,030 --> 00:22:46,530 I looked at this. I looked at the data from this survey. I 384 00:22:46,530 --> 00:22:50,730 kind of want to know, you know, how, who commissioned it or why 385 00:22:50,730 --> 00:22:53,730 and it seemed like it was just a lot of YouTube stuff in there. 386 00:22:54,180 --> 00:22:57,510 And the whole premise that you know, what platform Do you 387 00:22:57,900 --> 00:23:01,950 listen to podcasts on? And if you know, 35% say YouTube? Wow, 388 00:23:01,950 --> 00:23:05,490 okay. Those people will want video. And then they want they 389 00:23:05,490 --> 00:23:09,090 want and the reason why is they want to see facial expressions. 390 00:23:09,180 --> 00:23:12,780 Do you want facial expressions in a true crime podcast? Is that 391 00:23:12,780 --> 00:23:15,930 really what you want to see? Who I'm very scared the scary part 392 00:23:15,930 --> 00:23:19,980 scary music? No, that's that. That can't have video. That has 393 00:23:19,980 --> 00:23:23,040 to be audio. That's what makes that that that genre. So 394 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,330 fantastic. I'm just spouting off today. 395 00:23:27,809 --> 00:23:31,049 This is interesting to see Albert Alberto just reply and he 396 00:23:31,049 --> 00:23:33,599 says Not yet. But it's in the roadmap for split. So okay, 397 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:37,109 cool. He says For reference, this is an interesting stat. 398 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:42,929 It's interesting. For reference, so far, we have we host 638 399 00:23:42,929 --> 00:23:49,589 podcasts with VAT value for value active. No. Debt is not 400 00:23:49,589 --> 00:23:50,129 bad. It's 401 00:23:50,130 --> 00:23:53,370 quite a lot, actually. I mean, what is our current tally of? 402 00:23:54,330 --> 00:23:55,530 We're over 11,000 I 403 00:23:55,530 --> 00:23:59,730 think, right? Yeah, live 1700 200 Some people that 404 00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:02,460 went up a lot in the past couple of weeks, and I can tell you 405 00:24:02,460 --> 00:24:06,030 what's going on. I mean, we have lift off now. There's some real 406 00:24:06,060 --> 00:24:11,640 there's some really cool stuff happening. I'm gonna hit 10,861. 407 00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:19,050 And now 10,860 That's what I'm seeing on our own website. About 408 00:24:19,050 --> 00:24:23,400 I think it was about 11,000. It's a little under 11. I think 409 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:30,810 the the integration of Alby into pod verse which is is much 410 00:24:30,810 --> 00:24:36,810 tighter admits tight, working, and I'll be having a direct fill 411 00:24:36,810 --> 00:24:40,800 up your wallet with a card with a with a debit card. I think 412 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,760 debit card works probably better than credit card. And fountain 413 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,260 having the same in app breeze of course has that in app. You 414 00:24:49,260 --> 00:24:54,810 know, we it's such a difference from a week ago, when, when we 415 00:24:54,810 --> 00:24:57,660 were struggling to tell people remember went through the whole 416 00:24:57,660 --> 00:25:00,630 thing like get your cash app and go to that part. Then the cash 417 00:25:00,630 --> 00:25:03,810 app and then copy the invoice. And I mean, now it's this like, 418 00:25:04,110 --> 00:25:08,340 boom, you throw it. Yes, I did it. Of course I tested it. I ran 419 00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:10,170 through the whole process, I found that there were some 420 00:25:10,170 --> 00:25:13,380 things that that needed tweaking and a couple other people know 421 00:25:13,410 --> 00:25:16,350 on podcast indexOf social welfare, but it also go I think, 422 00:25:17,130 --> 00:25:21,150 might have been Chad F, maybe Dred Scott, maybe both were 423 00:25:21,420 --> 00:25:25,530 generous Macintosh, he created a video like a how to video 424 00:25:25,620 --> 00:25:33,390 beautiful. But the KYC was literally address and Social 425 00:25:33,390 --> 00:25:37,680 Security. No pictures, no driver's license? No, no turn to 426 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,150 the left turn to the right. There's no There's still some 427 00:25:42,180 --> 00:25:45,300 there's a waiting, a little waiting period because you're 428 00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:49,380 you are literally buying Bitcoin on chain. Can they give you the 429 00:25:49,380 --> 00:25:53,820 transaction ID you can see your transaction. And there's a link 430 00:25:54,060 --> 00:25:57,090 to the mempool which of course is incredibly confusing for 431 00:25:57,090 --> 00:25:59,460 people. So that needs to be explained. 432 00:25:59,670 --> 00:26:01,170 Yeah, no links to mempool 433 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,780 is really no. 434 00:26:05,369 --> 00:26:08,099 Okay, it's easy. Look, it's easy. Just get when you all you 435 00:26:08,099 --> 00:26:11,489 got to do. Go get go get your credit card, and your driver's 436 00:26:11,489 --> 00:26:13,949 license, take a picture of yourself. And then here's a link 437 00:26:13,949 --> 00:26:16,049 to mempool See how easy that is? 438 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,380 So So again, you don't need that with Moon pay. At least I didn't 439 00:26:19,380 --> 00:26:25,710 need driver's license or picture just just the payment info and, 440 00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:30,360 and social, which I don't like giving out but it's a light KYC. 441 00:26:31,050 --> 00:26:33,240 And that was impressive. Enlightened. So now when Tina 442 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,920 and I do Kirinda keeper on Wednesday coming up, I think 443 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,300 Well, we already had it already got easier people like we had 444 00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:45,450 like two and a half million SATs and boosts from from you know, 445 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,780 between shows. And this is making a difference now. 446 00:26:49,530 --> 00:26:51,600 Did you say 200,000,002 and 447 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,250 a half million two and a half? Holy, I wish I wish I wish now 448 00:26:56,250 --> 00:26:58,860 two and a half million but now and these are these are people 449 00:26:58,860 --> 00:27:04,230 who typically just hit play on the website. A lot of them 450 00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:10,140 women. And until now it's a get an app. And here's and here's 451 00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:12,600 the very simple way to because they all they all want to do it. 452 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,470 They all want to send value. Yeah, they just fall off the 453 00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:20,820 edge. So now Now it's possible I think I think this is a very 454 00:27:20,820 --> 00:27:24,690 very very big deal for for a value for value streaming and 455 00:27:24,690 --> 00:27:26,490 booster grams. I think it's really going to make a 456 00:27:26,490 --> 00:27:34,260 difference. And and I commend Mitch and an Oscar and and Roy 457 00:27:34,260 --> 00:27:37,500 and all their teams for for this type of integration. This this 458 00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:40,290 is good onboarding that's happening here, especially when 459 00:27:40,290 --> 00:27:42,750 you're actually buying Bitcoin. That's impressive. 460 00:27:43,410 --> 00:27:47,730 I think this could be a way forward for podcast addict to 461 00:27:48,570 --> 00:27:49,560 now be integral. 462 00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:50,369 So that helps. 463 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,500 Because Xavier Xavier had looked in I think maybe about a year 464 00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:59,400 ago. I don't remember how far back it was. I think he had 465 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:06,630 looked into the value streaming in the LNP API. He was like, 466 00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:08,970 nah, this just doesn't feel like it's ready. It just doesn't feel 467 00:28:08,970 --> 00:28:10,830 like it's ready. It's probably right at the time probably 468 00:28:10,830 --> 00:28:16,170 right. Yeah. Because he was like there's two he was having 469 00:28:16,170 --> 00:28:21,360 trouble with and I think at the time LM Pei was struggling with 470 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:24,300 capacity and stuff like that he's just he's like it's not 471 00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:28,860 reliable enough. I can't do this. And so you know, but but 472 00:28:29,220 --> 00:28:35,940 the lb integration that pod verse did that is an easy and 473 00:28:35,940 --> 00:28:38,610 easier to sing on the developer themselves because they don't 474 00:28:38,610 --> 00:28:41,910 have to. They're just they're just letting you link to your 475 00:28:41,910 --> 00:28:43,710 wallet you're not having to make those 476 00:28:43,740 --> 00:28:49,560 right and at that point is all I mean, what I love about the Get 477 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,070 albies Get Alby system the way I think it should work, which is 478 00:28:53,070 --> 00:28:58,230 the way sovereign feeds does it, does it God bless Steven B. So 479 00:28:58,230 --> 00:29:02,640 when I add a split to the no agenda feed, which is that only 480 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,990 changes for one for one split, and that is for the artist, and 481 00:29:06,990 --> 00:29:10,590 I've I've encouraged all the artists to get an Alby wallet, 482 00:29:10,890 --> 00:29:15,480 so if it's Taunton Neil at get allday.com I literally go into 483 00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:20,100 into sovereign feeds. And then I set up I set up the split and I 484 00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:25,590 click LB and I type in Tom to underscore Neil at get lb.com 485 00:29:26,940 --> 00:29:29,520 Everything's populated that 486 00:29:29,550 --> 00:29:31,950 results with the keys Yes. 487 00:29:33,420 --> 00:29:34,590 Beautiful and I 488 00:29:34,709 --> 00:29:38,099 take it back it's not Ellen URL. No, it's not us, isn't it? No, 489 00:29:38,189 --> 00:29:40,559 it's that it's that other thing is the other thing 490 00:29:40,829 --> 00:29:44,489 but that is really impressive, you know, so that that to me 491 00:29:44,489 --> 00:29:47,909 seems though if you're going to have a get get Alby integration 492 00:29:48,749 --> 00:29:52,229 just haven't just enter your your your get Alby lightning 493 00:29:52,229 --> 00:29:54,509 address and you're done. You shouldn't have to do anything 494 00:29:54,509 --> 00:29:56,159 else and then authorize obviously, 495 00:29:56,670 --> 00:29:58,560 service they want to talk to Xavier. Here's a word about 496 00:29:58,590 --> 00:30:00,510 Gulag Okay, Hello. 497 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,870 That's what I remember. That's what I remember the problem 498 00:30:03,870 --> 00:30:06,960 being is the problem is no, no, we can't do that, because Google 499 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,100 has real. You know, they've had issues that kick people off for 500 00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:14,010 using wallets and stuff. But it's clearly it's the other 501 00:30:14,010 --> 00:30:14,910 people are doing it. 502 00:30:15,089 --> 00:30:17,489 Yeah. See, that's the way like I said, that's the way forward 503 00:30:17,489 --> 00:30:22,889 because pod verse, Mitch and Mitch and the boys they pushed. 504 00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:26,609 It's, I mean, they're all over Google. So it's not, I think 505 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,520 Xavier has a flag, though. And I like him for some reason. Oh, 506 00:30:32,550 --> 00:30:35,940 that's just Google. And it's just Google. Hey, look, Google D 507 00:30:35,940 --> 00:30:43,470 platform me from Google ads in 2010. I can never ever, ever 508 00:30:43,470 --> 00:30:47,190 again, make any money through Google, YouTube or anything? 509 00:30:47,670 --> 00:30:49,590 Why would you do? I had an 510 00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:54,480 app at the time, which I built myself, I might point out. Yes, 511 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,490 impressive. The big App Show. 512 00:30:56,910 --> 00:30:59,490 And what I remember the big app show that was that was you had 513 00:30:59,490 --> 00:31:01,260 freedom controller on the big show for a while. 514 00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:06,120 On the on the website. Yeah, absolutely. And what the way I 515 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:12,570 would do is I'd shoot videos of apps in in portrait mode. And 516 00:31:12,570 --> 00:31:15,630 I'd go full screen. So you were literally getting a demo of the 517 00:31:15,630 --> 00:31:18,540 app that looked like it was running on your phone. And this 518 00:31:18,540 --> 00:31:22,920 was 2010. So that was kind of cool. And I had ads in there. 519 00:31:23,580 --> 00:31:25,920 And I'd be talking about the apps and I say oh, by the way, 520 00:31:26,250 --> 00:31:28,980 you know, we got an ad we got ads here. So tap on the ad, take 521 00:31:28,980 --> 00:31:34,350 a look at the sponsors. And I was doing like $2,000 a month in 522 00:31:34,380 --> 00:31:37,380 in Google ad money for two months. And then Google went, 523 00:31:37,740 --> 00:31:40,500 this is false. This is fake. These are fake clicks. So what 524 00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:45,990 do you mean? You're asking people to look at ads? Ah, okay. 525 00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:50,400 That's what you're saying. That's the point. No, no. 526 00:31:50,970 --> 00:31:54,720 So you got a lifetime banned? Forever? Yeah. It's because you 527 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,740 were making too much money. 528 00:31:56,010 --> 00:31:58,830 I don't know what it was. But it wasn't all that much. But it was 529 00:31:58,830 --> 00:32:01,890 just I mean, it was nice money, certainly at the time, but just 530 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:08,310 Dixit digs. Advertising sucks. This is why we wound up here. I 531 00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:12,450 don't like being D platformed. For bull crap. Yeah, we got some 532 00:32:12,450 --> 00:32:16,290 relevant boosted grams coming in live as we are let's Of course, 533 00:32:16,650 --> 00:32:20,460 get Wattpad versus a currently will alert you if you set it up. 534 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,910 When we go live from contracts, which I'm going to go into 535 00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:31,050 assume is probably Boomi or someone from get Alby. Let's 536 00:32:31,050 --> 00:32:38,730 see. Says here this is 5000 SATs. To make V four v 537 00:32:38,730 --> 00:32:41,610 onboarding as easy as possible. We've added a tool that lets you 538 00:32:41,610 --> 00:32:45,030 validate your V four v set up with two clicks. Also amounts 539 00:32:45,030 --> 00:32:48,480 can now be displayed in Fiat from coupons. Oh, nice. One, 540 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:48,570 does 541 00:32:48,569 --> 00:32:50,939 that mean validate? Does that mean? Like it'll tell you if 542 00:32:50,939 --> 00:32:53,339 they'll check your blog and save the splits? Or? I 543 00:32:53,579 --> 00:32:57,149 think so I think so. Boosts us again with 50,000 SATs with the 544 00:32:57,149 --> 00:33:00,629 answer, please. One technical hurdle we had during the 545 00:33:00,629 --> 00:33:03,809 development, its value for value. We couldn't find the 546 00:33:03,809 --> 00:33:07,439 correct way to round splits in the spec. How do you guys think 547 00:33:07,439 --> 00:33:12,269 split should be rounded? I mean, just down to the Satoshi level. 548 00:33:12,269 --> 00:33:14,459 I guess if you if it's an odd number. 549 00:33:16,050 --> 00:33:18,120 I think I would just round 550 00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:21,269 around rounding the mountain down is what I'd say. Yeah, 551 00:33:21,329 --> 00:33:25,079 yeah. Cuz if you round it. Yeah, I think I would round down just 552 00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:25,829 to be safe. 553 00:33:25,980 --> 00:33:33,780 I'm sorry. Here's. Here's Alwyn. 10,000 SATs. Oh, this is our 554 00:33:33,780 --> 00:33:42,810 one. Okay. And I guess Alan is from pure. Now. Here we go. This 555 00:33:42,810 --> 00:33:47,850 is a fun idea. 33,333 from blueberry. Does anyone president 556 00:33:47,850 --> 00:33:50,400 have an opinion on open source solution to substack? For Okay, 557 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,910 we'll do that in a moment. Now he's sent the same message 558 00:33:53,910 --> 00:33:56,760 twice. I got it. I'm not sure exactly what that means. We have 559 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,480 to figure it out. 560 00:33:59,190 --> 00:34:01,320 already. I think we already discussed I think I think it was 561 00:34:02,550 --> 00:34:04,680 in the spec somewhere. I thought we put that in there. 562 00:34:05,099 --> 00:34:08,189 I could be wrong, because I know we had a long discussion about 563 00:34:08,189 --> 00:34:08,699 rounding. 564 00:34:09,090 --> 00:34:10,470 Recall something about that 565 00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:14,160 too. And maybe wrong. But the way that we've I think we've 566 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:19,170 been down every one of these roads before. Now not to say 567 00:34:19,170 --> 00:34:20,910 that there's something that can't come up that we haven't 568 00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:25,950 thought about. But I mean, I'm almost 100% sure that we early 569 00:34:25,950 --> 00:34:29,700 on when we were I think it was we're hashing out. What do you 570 00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:33,600 do when that when the splits don't add up to 100? And that's 571 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,570 when we went to a share model instead of a percentage. 572 00:34:36,990 --> 00:34:47,250 So if you have a if you're running a podcast at@rss.com 573 00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:50,640 Does the index get a split or is no split? Is that automatic? But 574 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,290 depends on where the where they're getting it from, I 575 00:34:52,290 --> 00:34:56,070 guess. Yeah, like always if the AP if they if they use the API 576 00:34:56,070 --> 00:34:58,560 then then that's when the split is okay. God Yeah, 577 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,470 if people get their valuable logging information from rice 578 00:35:01,470 --> 00:35:03,930 and we could we put the 1% in there if they did they get it 579 00:35:03,930 --> 00:35:07,020 straight from the feed and they don't. They don't have to run. 580 00:35:07,020 --> 00:35:09,150 They don't have to be the way but it's honor system. 581 00:35:09,930 --> 00:35:12,780 Yeah. Well, everyone's a crook these days. What are you guys? 582 00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:19,500 Crooks? Sam second you got funded? Wow, that was a joke. 583 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:27,450 But man 300,000 Star 300,000 pounds proof. Congratulations, 584 00:35:27,450 --> 00:35:30,480 brother i that is an amazing amount of money in this in this 585 00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:32,160 investing climate. 586 00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:35,490 So I haven't I haven't list listened to you. 587 00:35:35,490 --> 00:35:37,800 I was listening to it today. I was listening to the Yeah. But 588 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,870 did he say who it was that fun? No, no, he 589 00:35:39,870 --> 00:35:43,740 didn't say who it was or what the valuation was. Which is 590 00:35:43,740 --> 00:35:45,690 marginally interesting. It's 591 00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:49,140 but at least a billion dollars, at least. It's 592 00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:52,020 probably a valuation of a million, I would say it's 593 00:35:52,020 --> 00:35:54,900 probably what it is. I hope it doesn't matter. I'm really happy 594 00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:57,630 for Sam, because I know how hard he worked on this. It was, you 595 00:35:57,630 --> 00:36:00,420 know, he had partners he had to get rid of because they fell 596 00:36:00,420 --> 00:36:03,420 down and weren't doing anything. And so we picked this whole 597 00:36:03,420 --> 00:36:07,320 project up and, and it sounds really cool. I know, you saw 598 00:36:07,950 --> 00:36:12,900 kind of an alpha alpha version working. But it was beautiful. I 599 00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:14,880 think a lot of this money is from marketing, which is 600 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,550 expected. You know, it doesn't cost that much these days, you 601 00:36:17,550 --> 00:36:22,380 know, all the stuff is kind of out there. So it's UI UX, which 602 00:36:22,410 --> 00:36:24,870 you know, takes real skill and real people who can do that. 603 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,760 It's got a great developer to was on the on a call with him. 604 00:36:30,420 --> 00:36:33,720 With him in his is Dev one day, and they were like, the guy 605 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:35,400 really knows what he's doing. He's he's good guy. 606 00:36:35,460 --> 00:36:39,630 Yeah. I'm so happy. And you know, this is marketing money. 607 00:36:39,630 --> 00:36:43,380 So I'm very excited. How much he's going to donate to the show 608 00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:44,700 for us to talk about him again. 609 00:36:45,420 --> 00:36:51,630 There's, there's 300,000 That's 610 00:36:53,940 --> 00:36:56,730 a lot. That's a lot of a lot of coin baby. A lot of coins. 611 00:36:58,020 --> 00:37:01,680 Yeah, there's, I mean, there's like a lot of this, this felt 612 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,720 like the last week was a lot of put a lot of just developments. 613 00:37:07,740 --> 00:37:10,530 So sort of revelation like, like pushing forward because 614 00:37:10,650 --> 00:37:13,830 blueberry? They're evidently released. Oh, cracking. 615 00:37:13,860 --> 00:37:18,060 Yeah. Well, cracking is everywhere these days. I know, 616 00:37:18,090 --> 00:37:21,210 Todd wrote a whole write up of podcasting. 2.0. 617 00:37:21,930 --> 00:37:24,720 Boy, they and they've got they've you can do live item, 618 00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:27,480 you can do live streams now in you can put those in your feed 619 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,950 in the blueberry UI, 620 00:37:28,980 --> 00:37:31,350 and they offer the streaming server as well. 621 00:37:32,220 --> 00:37:36,750 I don't think that they do. Okay. I don't think they do 622 00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:40,830 that. But they it's a read through the through the article 623 00:37:40,830 --> 00:37:44,820 that he linked to, and it's an explainer about how to put your 624 00:37:44,820 --> 00:37:48,240 live stream information into your feed using losing their 625 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:53,220 dashboard. Which I mean, that's, that's great, because then, you 626 00:37:53,220 --> 00:37:57,570 know, like a day later, or something like that. The Xavier 627 00:37:58,110 --> 00:38:00,870 says the podcast index. I mean, it's gonna be podcast addict is 628 00:38:00,870 --> 00:38:04,590 going to is going to release beta and evidently it's out now. 629 00:38:04,590 --> 00:38:08,580 So he's got beta live item tags word in the beta. Ah, I 630 00:38:08,580 --> 00:38:11,640 didn't know that. Okay. The podcast addict. Yeah. Excellent. 631 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,660 Does Liz is live streaming now, too. He says, if you have the 632 00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:18,360 latest beta installed, you can listen to podcasts and 2.0 live 633 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,040 right now and interact with the chat by pressing on the player 634 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,730 screen chat button. You get notified about the lives 635 00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:29,850 starting in real time via push notification. Yeah, so it sounds 636 00:38:29,850 --> 00:38:32,730 like a lot a lot like pod verse support. 637 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,790 But then we need to put them everywhere. I need to start 638 00:38:35,820 --> 00:38:41,790 promoting him as the for no agenda, then if that works, if 639 00:38:41,790 --> 00:38:45,150 people can get a ping. We want people to be able to listen 640 00:38:45,150 --> 00:38:46,350 live. That's fantastic. 641 00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:51,780 is I think he may be in the chat. Actually. I think I saw 642 00:38:51,780 --> 00:38:55,260 somebody boosting his karma in the chat a while ago. So I mean, 643 00:38:55,260 --> 00:38:59,940 I I'm assuming he's testing it live from the from the app. So 644 00:38:59,940 --> 00:39:04,980 that's two apps. Now they can do. They can do live item. Live, 645 00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:11,190 do live streams and chat. The live chat so that is exciting. 646 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,200 I have a I have you ever comment on on Todd's blog posts. 647 00:39:16,980 --> 00:39:17,370 Okay. 648 00:39:19,140 --> 00:39:22,710 So he goes through the live stuff. And he sent us let's talk 649 00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:25,860 about the crypto component and it gives a little breakdown of 650 00:39:26,670 --> 00:39:30,240 what a Satoshi is. And I think this is incorrect. He says 651 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:36,030 crypto astigmatism. I think he meant astigmatism. Astigmatism 652 00:39:36,030 --> 00:39:39,420 is a thing with your eye, isn't it? It's like nearsightedness. 653 00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:42,630 Yeah, so crypto. I don't think it's a stick. Well, I It's funny 654 00:39:42,780 --> 00:39:46,410 if it's crypto nearsightedness. I don't know. I think maybe 655 00:39:46,410 --> 00:39:49,470 true. Yeah, I think you need to remove a a 656 00:39:50,910 --> 00:39:53,730 a stigmatism is a common a generally treatable imperfection 657 00:39:53,730 --> 00:39:54,870 in the curvature of the eye. 658 00:39:55,859 --> 00:40:02,579 Yes, that's, that's that's a booboo there. gotta fix. Oh, and 659 00:40:02,579 --> 00:40:06,839 I also fixed new podcast apps.com with HTTPS. 660 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,730 Okay, tell me what you had to do. 661 00:40:09,329 --> 00:40:16,709 Wow. Yeah, I mean, all I really want is just just put a forward 662 00:40:16,709 --> 00:40:19,439 in there. But you know, it's like you can't just forward and 663 00:40:19,499 --> 00:40:24,239 so if someone typed in HTTPS new pad podcast apps.com, there's no 664 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,149 cert for that. And, you know, and I guess I could have, I 665 00:40:27,149 --> 00:40:30,899 actually went in and looked at the GitHub, I'm like, can I add 666 00:40:30,899 --> 00:40:33,749 this into the nginx, or whatever needs to be done so that we can 667 00:40:33,749 --> 00:40:36,299 just have the cert on the other side, but then you can't 668 00:40:36,329 --> 00:40:41,219 actually make it forward to slash? Apps, podcasts 669 00:40:41,219 --> 00:40:45,869 index.org/apps. So DNS simple who I use, they have a forward 670 00:40:45,899 --> 00:40:49,769 URL forwarding service, and it's in the DNS record, it's a URL 671 00:40:49,769 --> 00:40:57,179 record. And while you can forward from HTTP to HTTPS, you 672 00:40:57,209 --> 00:41:01,589 if you want to forward from HTTPS to, you know, to the URL 673 00:41:01,589 --> 00:41:04,799 with HTTPS, you need to have a different account, which you 674 00:41:04,799 --> 00:41:09,359 know, because basically, they're then acting, they are acting as 675 00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:14,909 the cert. So I have a cert registered for that domain name, 676 00:41:14,909 --> 00:41:17,699 and then it's hitting their server and then being forwarded. 677 00:41:17,699 --> 00:41:20,969 So I guess they, they, they, they want to charge money for 678 00:41:20,969 --> 00:41:24,989 the for that service, which is okay. I don't mind. So then I 679 00:41:24,989 --> 00:41:28,379 set it up. And the only thing I couldn't do was I couldn't do a 680 00:41:28,379 --> 00:41:32,549 parameter. So I can do pocket initial Lord slash apps. I 681 00:41:32,549 --> 00:41:36,509 couldn't do slash apps question mark, you know, filter by app. 682 00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:39,929 That doesn't work in that scenario. 683 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,490 Se Se. Okay. So that was the issue. Yeah. Okay. 684 00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:48,960 By the way, I think crypto astigmatism is a show title. 685 00:41:49,770 --> 00:41:54,630 Oh, yeah. Yes. stigmata, you know, this, this would be 686 00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:56,130 another way to go with this. The stigma 687 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,060 of astigmatism is funnier. Okay. I like it a lot. 688 00:42:01,770 --> 00:42:05,100 This is, this is. This is great. 689 00:42:05,370 --> 00:42:08,700 It's fantastic. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. What are we been two and 690 00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:12,990 a half years from, from concept to where we are today. 691 00:42:13,650 --> 00:42:16,740 There's some yeah, there's something about the live. 692 00:42:17,730 --> 00:42:21,390 There's something about the live stuff that just yeah, it just I 693 00:42:21,390 --> 00:42:24,750 don't know, man. It just, it's really exciting. It's, it feels 694 00:42:24,750 --> 00:42:28,830 like something. It feels like value for value. To me. It feels 695 00:42:28,830 --> 00:42:32,400 like something brand new. Everything else is different. 696 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,210 The rest of the stuff in the namespace, yes, it's cool. But 697 00:42:36,210 --> 00:42:40,350 they're, they're like, they feel like just sort of making things 698 00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:44,880 making things better than they were. They feel like it feels 699 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,860 like an evolution of things. This feels like something truly 700 00:42:49,860 --> 00:42:54,300 new in a podcast app. That's never been rude. Agreed. It's 701 00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:58,110 really never been done. And intimate to me when you can do 702 00:42:58,110 --> 00:43:02,010 that. You can kind of like, and when I say never been done, I'm 703 00:43:02,010 --> 00:43:06,330 sure you understand. Understand there's there's there's apps 704 00:43:06,330 --> 00:43:09,540 that have done live streaming. I'm talking about in a podcast 705 00:43:09,540 --> 00:43:14,910 app. There's a dedicated independent podcast app itself 706 00:43:15,330 --> 00:43:22,050 when you can when you can make all of them able to do to be 707 00:43:22,050 --> 00:43:26,040 radio receivers for live content that is Yes, sure. 708 00:43:26,250 --> 00:43:30,150 And Thank you Mitch for squashing the bug for 100% Retro 709 00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:34,080 the live feed now. I get an alert maybe just maybe eight 710 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:34,980 times a day. 711 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,620 Yeah, me too. That's it's my canary in the coal mine. 712 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,800 Everything's still working exactly. And it's beautiful 713 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,800 because the the alert pops up and it's got the the right title 714 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,710 the right image. And over the weekend there it was Ben Lee but 715 00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:53,190 on popped up. What I did, Kim wild popped up and I tuned in i 716 00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:56,790 Listen, you're like okay, that's very cool. And then the bet it 717 00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:59,880 was frustrating even because it was Wednesday. Was it Wednesday, 718 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,480 I think I was in the periodontist office in the chair 719 00:44:03,540 --> 00:44:06,060 group. And I said hold on a second because I just might just 720 00:44:06,060 --> 00:44:08,040 how I talked to my periodontist back off for a second. Let me 721 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,410 take a look. Oh, it's the new media show. I really want to 722 00:44:10,410 --> 00:44:13,530 listen and boosting grammar. HCA. He's like no, no, open your 723 00:44:13,530 --> 00:44:13,920 mouth. 724 00:44:15,690 --> 00:44:18,240 It's like, oh, man, you get you get a space. 725 00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:22,320 I was bummed about it because I really want it's it was 726 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,880 exciting. It was truly an I have every reason to be extremely 727 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,140 jaded about this stuff. 728 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,850 I'm not typically alive. Podcasts podcast listener, like 729 00:44:32,850 --> 00:44:37,050 I don't that's just not normally how I roll. And I realize this 730 00:44:37,050 --> 00:44:42,240 because I always had to I have to go to my computer and I have 731 00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:45,180 to know the schedule and it's just too much mental it's just 732 00:44:45,180 --> 00:44:45,750 too many hoops 733 00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:48,570 to jump through of course and now I just tap it boom it opens 734 00:44:48,570 --> 00:44:49,620 running is fantastic. 735 00:44:49,710 --> 00:44:52,800 Pod verse notified me the other day new media show just went 736 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,500 live. I just clicked it Yeah, I was like okay, yeah, sure I'm in 737 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:01,350 get me and I don't know what happened but my my Get lb stays 738 00:45:01,350 --> 00:45:06,000 connected now to to pod verse I don't have to reconnect it every 739 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,120 single time I as far as I know there was no update past the one 740 00:45:09,180 --> 00:45:11,640 that that was fixing. It wasn't fixed and then it's fixed. It's 741 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,090 magic. 742 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,640 I love it. And maybe maybe it was an Aldi problem. It is 743 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,690 something I think it was I 744 00:45:15,690 --> 00:45:17,760 think there was an lb authentication issue that it was 745 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,610 dropping for some reason. I'm not sure. Doesn't matter, 746 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:25,440 whoever fix it. Merci beaucoup. And Chabot, BA and all that good 747 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,070 French stuff. 748 00:45:27,330 --> 00:45:30,840 Do we I feel like we want to talk about at least a little bit 749 00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:33,000 about the web monetization stuff. I didn't want to talk 750 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,250 about it last week, because we had a guest. And it's there's 751 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:35,940 too, you 752 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,280 know, I was trying, I was trying to silence it to death. But 753 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:38,700 okay. 754 00:45:40,770 --> 00:45:45,060 That, like, I just felt like I want to talk about a little bit 755 00:45:46,980 --> 00:45:52,680 around what, what I think is, I guess, I guess just my general 756 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,460 feelings about it. In my general, in general, I think 757 00:45:56,460 --> 00:46:00,660 it's, I think it's fine. I mean, I don't have a problem with the 758 00:46:00,660 --> 00:46:05,400 web monetization, technology, that and we're talking about the 759 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,330 stuff that PRX days. So PRX is doing, it's only in their web 760 00:46:09,330 --> 00:46:13,860 player. And it's very limited, they don't they, they have a 761 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,130 lot allow me to allow me to kick it off, because I caused a 762 00:46:17,130 --> 00:46:20,310 ruckus about it. And I'm partially I apologize, because I 763 00:46:20,310 --> 00:46:23,700 was just flying off the handle. But there was something deeper 764 00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:29,730 here. The the way it came to me is exactly what I was afraid of, 765 00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:35,040 I saw headlines, I heard a headline PRX value for value, 766 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,340 I'm like, wow, this is great. And then I see that it's not 767 00:46:38,340 --> 00:46:44,130 value for value at all, yet, yet. Because it's missing a lot 768 00:46:44,130 --> 00:46:47,520 of you know, it's it's a payment, it's a payment, which 769 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,420 is web uses a different system than lightning, that's fine. But 770 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:57,450 it just hurt me because value for value is not just streaming 771 00:46:57,450 --> 00:47:00,570 payments or booster grams, that's not value for value, it 772 00:47:00,570 --> 00:47:05,490 is truly the returning of value that you set yourself value for 773 00:47:05,490 --> 00:47:08,370 value dot info was a whole website about it, which, you 774 00:47:08,370 --> 00:47:10,890 know, finally, I think people are starting to look at it, 775 00:47:12,180 --> 00:47:19,500 which I wrote with my my drawing a blank eg GG, thank you. And 776 00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:23,970 it's couple of the people who've contributed some things. And, 777 00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:27,570 and I was just you know, that's that's not what value for value 778 00:47:27,570 --> 00:47:30,720 can be done in many different ways with Pay Pal, you know, 779 00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:35,430 with cash money sending it through to a Pio box. But just 780 00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:39,060 because you give $5 to a company, and they and they and 781 00:47:39,060 --> 00:47:42,930 they give you the gives the the content owner X amount per 782 00:47:42,930 --> 00:47:46,320 minute. It's not value for value that's like, that's something 783 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,010 different. And so that and then when I saw the PRX zone 784 00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:53,250 document, which mentioned value for value, it was very 785 00:47:53,250 --> 00:47:56,520 confusing. And so i my i went into protective mode of 786 00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,450 something that I named something that we've been working on for 787 00:48:00,450 --> 00:48:06,360 15 years in so value for value is distinctly different than web 788 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:11,400 monetization. And any and even Patreon is not value for value, 789 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,880 because you can't just so many times I'm listening to 790 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,090 something. And I'm like, Oh, I really want to support them. How 791 00:48:18,090 --> 00:48:21,720 can I do it, Patreon. And the only way to do it on Patreon is 792 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:25,200 to become a member of some level, I want to give you 50 793 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:30,510 bucks right now. Can't do it on Patreon. So that's what value 794 00:48:30,510 --> 00:48:33,360 for value is. And so what happened here and the proposal 795 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,680 that came in, was marketed as such Republic, excuse me 796 00:48:37,710 --> 00:48:42,270 reported as such. And that just just I blew my top. So I was 797 00:48:42,270 --> 00:48:46,710 incorrect about accusations I made. It's absolutely fine. I 798 00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:51,300 want you know, we got an email the other day, and I'm starting 799 00:48:51,300 --> 00:48:53,460 to handle more emails you'd like that day if I'm handling the 800 00:48:53,460 --> 00:48:56,160 emails for you on Thank you. Thank you for your is that 801 00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,030 working for you? Is that working for you? 100% work? Okay, good. 802 00:49:00,030 --> 00:49:02,040 No, I enjoy doing it. Because I just said, you know, yeah, well, 803 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,040 we'll get on that. And within 24 hours, you know, it'll be fixed. 804 00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:13,380 If we can. And to help us I can Oh, so there's something Open 805 00:49:14,610 --> 00:49:17,970 Content Foundation or something. It's like, hey, we have 806 00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:22,290 resources, we got money. We got engineers, we like this concept. 807 00:49:22,290 --> 00:49:26,010 We'd like the whole idea, as Oh, cool. You know, tell me tell me 808 00:49:26,010 --> 00:49:30,840 what's going on. And I look at it and it's like, you know, it's 809 00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:35,910 it's like a kind of a Aetherium type thing tokens. And I'm like, 810 00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:40,140 you know, here's the spec. It'd be great if you can if you can 811 00:49:40,140 --> 00:49:43,530 integrate it this way and enjoy but we don't really need your 812 00:49:43,530 --> 00:49:44,790 resources for that. 813 00:49:46,590 --> 00:49:52,980 Yeah, that to me a little go back to the bait was the base 814 00:49:52,980 --> 00:50:01,200 protocol. So the devalue block itself was created. needed to be 815 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:06,150 plug and play with anything that people could dream up to fit in 816 00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:09,720 there. Sure, if you if you can figure out a way to put it in 817 00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:11,790 there in a way that makes sense with your back end 818 00:50:11,790 --> 00:50:17,430 infrastructure, go for it, have fun to knock stuff out. But as 819 00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:22,740 far as, like, the thing that that I want to like personally, 820 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,750 like endorse or try to push for or things like that, those 821 00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:32,130 things, that's a different question. You know, like, I 822 00:50:32,130 --> 00:50:37,650 will, I will gladly approve and merge in, you know, things like 823 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,940 a and any kind of PR that that has, that had that fits the 824 00:50:41,940 --> 00:50:47,550 spec, and is in is in the spirit of what we're trying to do with, 825 00:50:47,580 --> 00:50:53,130 you know, which is decentralized payments. So, but that's, you 826 00:50:53,130 --> 00:50:56,070 know, that's a different question from my own personal 827 00:50:56,070 --> 00:51:02,520 beliefs in which is, and on that note, I go back to, if the base 828 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:08,760 protocol itself is open, and decentralized and free and 829 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:16,410 accessible, then what's built on top of it, like layers, 234, 830 00:51:17,070 --> 00:51:20,310 whatever, they may not be perfect, but they'll at least 831 00:51:20,310 --> 00:51:26,250 maintain that that base level of freedom. So they sort of inherit 832 00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:30,660 the properties of the of of that base level of the parents so to 833 00:51:30,660 --> 00:51:36,210 speak. And that's that's the way that's why that's why I'm on 834 00:51:36,210 --> 00:51:39,960 Bitcoin to for this for the value for value thing for 835 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,520 lightning. Yeah. Is because, you know, Bitcoin itself cannot 836 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:49,170 handle the volume of traffic and the fee structure and all that 837 00:51:49,170 --> 00:51:53,010 stuff that's necessary to do this stuff. But But lightning 838 00:51:53,010 --> 00:51:58,830 can. But is lightning a perfect protocol? No, not by any stretch 839 00:51:58,830 --> 00:52:02,010 of the imagination. And I think everybody, hopefully, hopefully. 840 00:52:02,670 --> 00:52:07,860 And I think everybody involved in the lightning ecosystem would 841 00:52:07,860 --> 00:52:10,680 admit that, if they're trying to be out, if they're being honest, 842 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,340 I mean, things like keys. And these are, these are not 843 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:22,170 perfectly designed protocols, if there even is such a thing. But 844 00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:30,540 when you compare it to something like web monetization, when if I 845 00:52:30,540 --> 00:52:34,260 do like, if, if I'm talking about pure decentralized 846 00:52:34,260 --> 00:52:38,910 payments, I can participate in the Lightning Network without 847 00:52:38,910 --> 00:52:44,730 anyone else. Right, not as just an end user. But actually, in 848 00:52:44,730 --> 00:52:46,920 the infrastructure flow itself. 849 00:52:46,949 --> 00:52:50,849 And that's in the spec, it says, specifically, from the user 850 00:52:50,849 --> 00:52:52,979 directly to the producer. 851 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,810 Yeah, I can be Yes, I can be a node within the network 852 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,490 exchanging payment traffic, I can be in the flow, and there's 853 00:53:02,490 --> 00:53:07,530 nothing else there. There's no, I don't have I'm not, I'm not a 854 00:53:07,530 --> 00:53:13,800 lower level, excuse me, a higher level node, where I have to then 855 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:20,340 request to some to some lower level to do a thing. I'm at a, 856 00:53:20,370 --> 00:53:22,680 when you're when you're when you're running a lightning node, 857 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,030 you're already at the at 858 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,120 your equal equal, everybody's equal. 859 00:53:27,150 --> 00:53:32,010 Yes. And so when you know, that is contrasted with something 860 00:53:32,010 --> 00:53:34,740 like web monetization, and again, I want to say the web 861 00:53:34,740 --> 00:53:38,730 monetization stuff is fine. It's I merged it in, it's in there, 862 00:53:38,730 --> 00:53:39,540 it's in the spec now. 863 00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:44,580 But here's the flaw. And this this, I'm sorry. 864 00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:50,010 If the thing was a web monetization protocol, the the 865 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:57,000 inter ledger protocol, the ILP stuff, it is inscrutable. It's 866 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,170 not only inscrutable to most human beings, if you read the 867 00:54:01,170 --> 00:54:07,770 spec, but you also to be at the exchange and to be a node within 868 00:54:07,770 --> 00:54:14,820 there. You have to have access to to banking, you have to have, 869 00:54:15,450 --> 00:54:18,420 you essentially have to have lots of money and lots of 870 00:54:18,420 --> 00:54:22,860 resources to integrate with the traditional financial system, 871 00:54:23,070 --> 00:54:27,810 and other blockchains it is by no means anything that any 872 00:54:27,810 --> 00:54:33,060 normal human being can do with limited, normal average human 873 00:54:33,060 --> 00:54:37,590 being resources. That's what that's what I think we all just 874 00:54:37,590 --> 00:54:41,340 need to be aware of you, you were talking about to boredom 875 00:54:41,340 --> 00:54:45,000 are two things that fit a spec, but other than that, they 876 00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:48,240 they're not comparable in any way. 877 00:54:50,310 --> 00:54:52,740 First of all, new show title, inscrutable. 878 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,270 Great word, inscrutable money. 879 00:54:57,330 --> 00:55:01,680 It's that's do it. The definition of inscrutable is 880 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,910 interesting, inscrutable, not readily investigated, 881 00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:09,450 interpreted or understood. I like inscrutable good word. 882 00:55:10,380 --> 00:55:13,500 This, to me is a bit of a throwback to a, here's a, here's 883 00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:18,750 the overall problem. Just getting something into the spec 884 00:55:18,750 --> 00:55:23,280 or putting something, the value block is really not even half 885 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:28,590 the work. This reminds me of the ln URL mafia. And all they were 886 00:55:28,590 --> 00:55:33,270 interested in is that their version of payments was in the 887 00:55:33,270 --> 00:55:38,280 spec. No one incentivized a single developer of any apps. 888 00:55:39,420 --> 00:55:42,600 And, you know, when and you know, the the Interledger. 889 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,450 Folks, they reached out to us they say you want to grant you 890 00:55:45,450 --> 00:55:48,180 want some money? No, no, thank you for a whole bunch of 891 00:55:48,180 --> 00:55:50,910 reasons, our own personal reasons, but we don't really 892 00:55:51,060 --> 00:55:53,310 want to take any corporate money. That's bottom line, we 893 00:55:53,310 --> 00:55:55,530 don't want to take any corporate money from anybody, because then 894 00:55:55,830 --> 00:56:00,030 we are, you know, we could we've been offered lots of things, 895 00:56:00,060 --> 00:56:03,300 advisor, ships, shares, you know, no, no, no, no, no, we 896 00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:06,390 don't want that. Because then then we're compromised, or 897 00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:10,950 potentially compromised. And so you know, if, if a company gives 898 00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:15,300 you money to create something, and then get it into the 2.0 899 00:56:15,300 --> 00:56:18,870 spec, that's great. But still, we have all these developers who 900 00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:23,250 are, are walking the hanging on by their fingernails to the 901 00:56:23,250 --> 00:56:27,660 ledge, you know, of just scraping by to to make their 902 00:56:27,660 --> 00:56:31,830 apps work. And it's a huge ask to implement something else. 903 00:56:32,730 --> 00:56:36,480 That's my problem. It's like, okay, that's great. You can put 904 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,320 a visa put your stuff in there. Yeah. Now, it'd be really easy 905 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,720 to say, oh, yeah, you can use Visa card, although you can't 906 00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:49,080 but okay. But that's, that's just a part of the equation. And 907 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:55,080 we spent years, literally years, working with app developers and 908 00:56:55,110 --> 00:57:00,270 hosting companies, and wallet providers to bring this all 909 00:57:00,270 --> 00:57:05,100 together. So, you know, you come back when you've done some work 910 00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:06,510 is kind of how I feel about it. 911 00:57:07,020 --> 00:57:10,920 Well, that, you know, that's it's not, it's not necessarily 912 00:57:13,650 --> 00:57:15,900 you know, we just need to, I think we just need to all 913 00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:19,560 understand what it is really, I think that's the biggest thing. 914 00:57:19,950 --> 00:57:25,740 You know, it looks like, based on the proposal that Benjamin 915 00:57:25,740 --> 00:57:30,930 Bellamy link to, in again, I just want to be as clear as I 916 00:57:30,930 --> 00:57:35,640 can be, this is not a criticism in any way of PRX or anything 917 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:42,450 like that, but, but they appear at PRX got paid to do that 918 00:57:42,450 --> 00:57:46,170 integration. It was fine. It looks like the grant was like 919 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:54,600 $85,000. So that can't that grant came from that coil fund 920 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,420 or whatever that thing is. And coil is the company that's 921 00:57:57,420 --> 00:58:02,430 pushing this Interledger spec. And so PRX got paid to do that 922 00:58:02,430 --> 00:58:08,730 integration, that's fine. But, you know, if any company's 923 00:58:08,730 --> 00:58:12,720 business plan that involves giving away $85,000, to have 924 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,620 somebody support your protocol, he's probably going to have in 925 00:58:16,620 --> 00:58:21,180 that same business plan a future where they make a large amount 926 00:58:21,180 --> 00:58:22,620 of money off that infrastructure. 927 00:58:22,710 --> 00:58:25,740 Hey, song, I really liked your r&b song, here's a pink 928 00:58:25,740 --> 00:58:28,560 Cadillac. Yep, don't worry, gotcha cover. 929 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,960 Exactly. And that's there. Again, I have no problem with 930 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,660 any of this. I just think we everybody needs, we all need to 931 00:58:36,660 --> 00:58:41,580 understand what the, what the pieces are here, what the what's 932 00:58:41,580 --> 00:58:45,870 going on, so that we can make so we can have proper understanding 933 00:58:45,870 --> 00:58:51,270 of of, of what we intend to support or how we're thinking 934 00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:55,260 about these things. Because I mean, if like if stripe stripe 935 00:58:55,260 --> 00:58:58,410 wanted to stripe wanted to turn their API into a web standard, 936 00:58:58,890 --> 00:59:03,120 now everybody's going to use the stripe infrastructure. I think 937 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,960 we would all agree that's, that's not a open system. No. I 938 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:11,400 mean, would it technically fit the spec? Yeah. But I don't 939 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:16,500 think we would, we would none of us would be excited. Because 940 00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:18,750 you're like, Okay, well, you can still be D platformed. You can 941 00:59:18,750 --> 00:59:21,210 still be taken off, you know, you can still have your payments 942 00:59:21,210 --> 00:59:24,510 revoked, you can still do all this kind of stuff. And could is 943 00:59:24,510 --> 00:59:30,030 it possible that in the in a future LSP type infrastructure? 944 00:59:30,420 --> 00:59:32,730 I've talked with Alex about this, we've had good 945 00:59:32,730 --> 00:59:36,270 conversations about the patina about what is the future for LSP 946 00:59:36,270 --> 00:59:39,240 type stuff, where where you're sort of renting other people's 947 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,390 channels and that kind of thing. You know, there's concerns there 948 00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:46,560 because you know, you could once you sort of go out into that 949 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:51,870 world will you know, maybe maybe there's possibility for payment 950 00:59:51,870 --> 00:59:56,160 censorship there. Sure. I don't I don't know. But, but I guess I 951 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,750 keep coming back to 952 00:59:57,900 --> 01:00:01,020 this censorship possibility with get out Be as well, I mean, get 953 01:00:01,020 --> 01:00:04,680 Albey consent, if I'm not saying I'm just saying, if you're not 954 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,730 in, anything's possible in that regard. And of course, you know, 955 01:00:08,790 --> 01:00:11,970 value for value was never intended to be censorship 956 01:00:11,970 --> 01:00:14,580 resistant. This was the upgrade in my mind. 957 01:00:15,210 --> 01:00:21,660 But I know that if I installed a know that if I install a, if I 958 01:00:21,660 --> 01:00:26,070 install an app with the full notes and libraries, and the 959 01:00:26,100 --> 01:00:31,560 podcaster, I'm trying to support runs their own node. I know in 960 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,850 at least that one scenario, I know that payment is going to go 961 01:00:35,850 --> 01:00:40,890 through, nothing's gonna stop it. Right. So So there are lots 962 01:00:40,890 --> 01:00:44,820 of ways that even lightning itself can be, you know, not the 963 01:00:44,820 --> 01:00:49,320 panacea and the Savior that the people may think it is. But at 964 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:56,310 least the protocol spec itself is adhered to in a very strict 965 01:00:56,310 --> 01:01:01,980 way. That does give you at least the promise of that of that 966 01:01:01,980 --> 01:01:05,220 freedom. You know, and I think there's always that fallback, 967 01:01:05,220 --> 01:01:07,950 you know, it's there. But with something like internal 968 01:01:07,950 --> 01:01:12,000 Interledger, or, or some other system, that not even that 969 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,310 prompt that that promise is not even there, 970 01:01:14,699 --> 01:01:17,339 I would have less of an issue with it, if you could determine 971 01:01:17,339 --> 01:01:19,979 how much you're giving. Because I know there's really no 972 01:01:19,979 --> 01:01:25,109 difference between, you know, sticking your money into coil, 973 01:01:25,109 --> 01:01:28,289 and then, you know, having it go to podcasters on the other end, 974 01:01:29,219 --> 01:01:32,339 but not being able to determine how much and for the podcast and 975 01:01:32,339 --> 01:01:34,769 not being able to create a split. I mean, that's just not 976 01:01:34,769 --> 01:01:37,949 value for value. That's a micro payment system. That's gonna be 977 01:01:37,949 --> 01:01:42,719 the same, probably with the LSAT system. I'm, you know, will the 978 01:01:42,719 --> 01:01:46,499 LSAT, will they support the value block? You know, I don't 979 01:01:46,499 --> 01:01:46,799 know, 980 01:01:47,490 --> 01:01:52,230 for 95% of podcasts, this is just not even an issue. But 981 01:01:52,230 --> 01:01:56,070 there are but there's that low single digit percentage of 982 01:01:56,070 --> 01:02:00,570 podcasts that, that push the envelope and are going to, you 983 01:02:00,570 --> 01:02:04,230 know, and it's not just it's not just wacky stuff, I mean, people 984 01:02:04,260 --> 01:02:07,620 who have whistleblowers on their show, there's lots of scenarios 985 01:02:07,620 --> 01:02:11,010 that you can think up where somebody's monetization would be 986 01:02:11,010 --> 01:02:15,360 threatened. And and there are going to be a small percentage 987 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,450 of shows out there where that really is an issue in legitimate 988 01:02:18,450 --> 01:02:23,280 ways not for not for what political crap but in legitimate 989 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,880 ways that's really an issue of repressive regimes Podcast 990 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,520 coming out of China who knows just think you can think of a 991 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,300 dozen if you just sit down for a while. So this is not an it's 992 01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:38,760 not an issue. The being being the platform resistant is not an 993 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,910 issue that to take lightly. It is an important issue. And so I 994 01:02:41,910 --> 01:02:46,290 think that does actually have to play into the things that we 995 01:02:46,500 --> 01:02:49,740 support and when I mean like, like push, you know, like, Hey, 996 01:02:49,740 --> 01:02:52,020 Rob with the things that we do rah rah for 997 01:02:52,140 --> 01:02:55,230 well, this Yeah, rah rah. Exactly. That's what we started 998 01:02:55,230 --> 01:02:58,470 this for those very reasons. Yeah. People were being thrown 999 01:02:58,470 --> 01:03:03,720 off of Apple podcasts and pay Powell was clamping down. That 1000 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:08,760 would that's our and, and just by stating that a lot of people 1001 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,600 didn't like us in the beginning and we never will and never 1002 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,200 will. And we and we softened our stance. Oh, by the way, podcast 1003 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,860 index dot socialist blocked by a number of of instances because 1004 01:03:19,860 --> 01:03:22,650 you know, we're all for free speech. It's very bad. We're 1005 01:03:22,650 --> 01:03:27,660 fascia J sash. news show title fashio adjacent. 1006 01:03:27,870 --> 01:03:31,710 That was one of the reasons fascia adjacent. I didn't need 1007 01:03:31,740 --> 01:03:36,810 what's funny is I didn't even know I was a fascist. Now is Sal 1008 01:03:36,810 --> 01:03:42,750 Mastodon is FAS, H adjacent how do they fat? Yeah, if they SHF 1009 01:03:42,750 --> 01:03:43,320 bash 1010 01:03:43,350 --> 01:03:47,280 fast, Jason kind of like that. That's a that's a bumper 1011 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:47,760 sticker. 1012 01:03:48,690 --> 01:03:52,500 It's always fun. It's always fun to be for something about 1013 01:03:52,500 --> 01:03:56,130 yourself to be revealed to you buy Rando on social media. 1014 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:02,760 Anyway, we wanted to talk about just you know, I mean, it's a 1015 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:03,540 big deal. And 1016 01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:06,990 I would welcome PRX to, you know, if they've, if they're 1017 01:04:06,990 --> 01:04:10,590 interested, we'll give you all the liquidity we can give you 1018 01:04:11,190 --> 01:04:14,070 if you want me to give you $85,000 But we'll get we'll give 1019 01:04:14,070 --> 01:04:15,210 you a channel that will give 1020 01:04:15,210 --> 01:04:18,360 you a channel with with millions of stats, we'll do that we'd 1021 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,900 love to know if it's already for you. You're doing the work and 1022 01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:26,580 just add a couple things. I don't think PRX supports any 1023 01:04:26,580 --> 01:04:28,470 other value for value system, do they? 1024 01:04:31,020 --> 01:04:37,590 I don't know that they ever would know, I could be you know, 1025 01:04:37,590 --> 01:04:41,550 I hope I'm wrong. But I feel like they're the public. The 1026 01:04:41,550 --> 01:04:48,270 public radio audience. Probably disproportionately is or hates 1027 01:04:48,270 --> 01:04:53,700 Bitcoin. I mean, I feel like that's a true statement. 1028 01:04:53,729 --> 01:04:59,639 Maybe. Well, if it's if it's Yeah, I mean, yes, if you if you 1029 01:04:59,639 --> 01:05:03,899 yeah. crypto. Oh, it's crypto bros. That's That's enough. 1030 01:05:03,899 --> 01:05:04,259 Yeah. 1031 01:05:04,860 --> 01:05:09,120 Yeah. No, hopefully one day we'll that stigma will will be 1032 01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:12,510 go will go away. But I mean until Until then I'm not 1033 01:05:12,510 --> 01:05:15,450 expecting to hear Ira Glass or you know, doing a booster green 1034 01:05:15,450 --> 01:05:16,230 corner anytime soon. 1035 01:05:17,940 --> 01:05:21,270 It will be hilarious. He'd be great at it. I'm sure he'd be 1036 01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:24,990 fantastic. Yeah, no. 1037 01:05:25,529 --> 01:05:29,669 Do you see the Cloudflare? I did the mastodon game. Yeah, I have 1038 01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:33,060 it in the show notes even figured we bring that up. So is 1039 01:05:33,060 --> 01:05:37,500 that something that the devs can use to integrate wildebeest and 1040 01:05:37,500 --> 01:05:40,200 activity pub and Mastodon compatible server. So if 1041 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,850 somebody can just spin up right away, 1042 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:48,870 it it appears so they don't know anything about it yet, because I 1043 01:05:48,870 --> 01:05:55,740 just saw Nathan's post about it today. And it looks like some 1044 01:05:55,740 --> 01:06:01,680 sort of like lightweight combination of of an activity 1045 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:06,840 pub. With login activity, pub supporting server, 1046 01:06:07,650 --> 01:06:10,050 well, you can do it, you can do it with an API. And you can do 1047 01:06:10,050 --> 01:06:16,470 it without images. Which is a huge savings, huge savings, huge 1048 01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:20,430 savings you can do you can 100,000 images a month storage 1049 01:06:20,430 --> 01:06:26,010 $5 $200,010 $1,000,050, a custom blah, blah, blah, but you but 1050 01:06:26,010 --> 01:06:29,130 you cannot you can also choose to not activate it. So it might 1051 01:06:29,130 --> 01:06:32,700 be perfect just for for cross app comments. 1052 01:06:33,390 --> 01:06:36,870 That's what it feels like the thing that I was about to build. 1053 01:06:36,870 --> 01:06:40,410 Yeah. Well, but for the same reason you were building a 1054 01:06:40,410 --> 01:06:46,320 bridge with with with helipad, and I'm kind of interested in 1055 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,270 hearing what you're what you were planning, or maybe you 1056 01:06:48,270 --> 01:06:51,030 already started working on it? Well, 1057 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,010 I had been, I've not done any coding yet. But I have it 1058 01:06:56,010 --> 01:06:59,820 written some some of the parts written out on paper, I usually 1059 01:06:59,850 --> 01:07:04,440 throw things out on paper first. And so the that was basically 1060 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,070 what I was looking at is to make as much of it as into static 1061 01:07:08,070 --> 01:07:11,550 files as possible. So there's the web finger component, the, 1062 01:07:11,820 --> 01:07:18,120 the, the JSON LD, all of those things could be just a static 1063 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,090 files that get updated when, when there's a status change, 1064 01:07:21,630 --> 01:07:25,890 then there's the, the sort of notification or action part of 1065 01:07:25,890 --> 01:07:30,060 it. That's, that's what I was trying to work on as I was going 1066 01:07:30,060 --> 01:07:34,950 to pull in the shell of what hell hell Upad was because it's 1067 01:07:34,950 --> 01:07:38,220 got all the pieces that I need there. And then sort of like, 1068 01:07:38,220 --> 01:07:43,320 strip that out and begin to build off of that. And then I'm 1069 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,980 kind of wondering if we're just going to give this a shot first. 1070 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,120 I mean, if it's cheap, if it's like super dirt cheap. I mean, 1071 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:51,240 I'm, 1072 01:07:52,380 --> 01:07:54,420 you know, they have a whole free tier. 1073 01:07:55,590 --> 01:08:00,960 Yeah, I mean, I want the stuff that we build, like Hello, Pat, 1074 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,870 and things like that. I want that stuff to be runnable for by 1075 01:08:03,870 --> 01:08:06,030 people in their own infrastructure, not dependent on 1076 01:08:06,030 --> 01:08:11,580 things. But you know, I don't know as sometimes I don't know, 1077 01:08:11,580 --> 01:08:15,300 I mean, how you'd have to ask yourself, well, how many people 1078 01:08:15,300 --> 01:08:18,240 are going to run a lightning you know, Ally need to activity pub 1079 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,220 bridge, I mean, I don't know that that's really going to be 1080 01:08:20,220 --> 01:08:23,190 something that lots of people want it to. That's a really 1081 01:08:23,190 --> 01:08:28,260 specific niche thing. So sometimes I don't feel really 1082 01:08:28,290 --> 01:08:32,940 like it's worth the time because when you make something when you 1083 01:08:32,940 --> 01:08:35,430 make something, oh, it'll be open whatever we do will be open 1084 01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:39,510 source. But I mean, when you make use something, not only 1085 01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:43,710 open source but also when you when you curate it and care for 1086 01:08:43,710 --> 01:08:46,740 it in a way that lets other people run it on their system. 1087 01:08:46,770 --> 01:08:50,850 Yeah, that's, that's you're signing up for support long term 1088 01:08:51,150 --> 01:08:54,420 for a lot of work, a lot of work and a lot of bug fixes and 1089 01:08:54,420 --> 01:08:57,390 things like that. And I don't not sure this I'm not sure the 1090 01:08:57,390 --> 01:09:00,630 trade off here is worth it. But I don't know maybe I mean, we'll 1091 01:09:00,630 --> 01:09:02,970 we'll see this may not work like I think yeah, 1092 01:09:03,480 --> 01:09:08,430 so if I were to describe this you were going to do a basically 1093 01:09:08,430 --> 01:09:16,200 a mastodon API server in rust. I'm hearing you say 1094 01:09:16,860 --> 01:09:23,700 it would be a it would be a US it would be a software that 1095 01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:31,680 looks for incoming lightning payments. That queries a node 1096 01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:37,920 for incoming payments. extracts the TLV sees if the message is 1097 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,760 is meant to be public or not if it's okay to for it to be 1098 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:49,290 public. And then if it is it crossed it posts it to it looks 1099 01:09:49,290 --> 01:09:55,710 up the episode information out of the to V gets the root post 1100 01:09:55,710 --> 01:09:58,590 from the social interact tag if there is one and if there is one 1101 01:09:58,590 --> 01:10:01,650 it posts as that As a reply to that Ruth doll, 1102 01:10:01,650 --> 01:10:04,500 that's beautiful. Let me go to chat GPT. Let me ask them to 1103 01:10:04,500 --> 01:10:09,990 write the code on. Oh, Chad GPT is at capacity right now. Oh, 1104 01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:11,580 no. Oh, that's 1105 01:10:11,580 --> 01:10:14,100 $3 million a day hurts. Oh, no, 1106 01:10:14,130 --> 01:10:17,790 oh, no. But last server cannot cope the error message rings 1107 01:10:17,790 --> 01:10:19,620 loud and clear. Please check back soon. 1108 01:10:20,249 --> 01:10:22,589 You can't even ask it. When it's going to be back up again. You 1109 01:10:22,589 --> 01:10:23,789 can get notified when 1110 01:10:23,790 --> 01:10:27,690 we're back. And you fill in your email address. You get 1111 01:10:27,690 --> 01:10:31,260 notified when they get more money. Can I heard that they 1112 01:10:31,290 --> 01:10:34,080 heard that that thing cost like $3 million a day to run? 1113 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:39,180 Well, there's a lot of noise about this. And I made the bold 1114 01:10:39,180 --> 01:10:41,130 prediction on the show. We didn't hear yesterday I said 1115 01:10:41,130 --> 01:10:43,290 this thing is going to fail. It's gonna be a massive failure. 1116 01:10:43,290 --> 01:10:45,900 It's gonna be billions of dollars and for whatever the 1117 01:10:45,900 --> 01:10:50,220 reason is, it's not going to take off just yet. GPT. Yeah. 1118 01:10:51,150 --> 01:10:54,660 This whole book I read, and I actually got it to admit the 1119 01:10:54,660 --> 01:10:58,740 other day that it was typing. He got it to Oh, yeah, I did. I was 1120 01:10:58,740 --> 01:11:05,190 I met. Because it's, yes. Well, it's a trick, you know, what is 1121 01:11:05,190 --> 01:11:08,790 the trick? The trick to humanizes it is it's typing its 1122 01:11:08,790 --> 01:11:13,890 answer to you. You know, it's a part in my mind, that's a parlor 1123 01:11:13,890 --> 01:11:16,890 trick. You know what I mean? It's like, okay, that's 1124 01:11:16,890 --> 01:11:22,500 impressive. But I said, I didn't even ask a question. I say. He's 1125 01:11:22,500 --> 01:11:26,130 typing out the words of I did. I said to a statement, it is a 1126 01:11:26,130 --> 01:11:29,430 parlor trick. typing out the words to make you appear more 1127 01:11:29,430 --> 01:11:33,300 human in quotes. Answer Yes. providing answers in a way that 1128 01:11:33,300 --> 01:11:36,150 is similar to how a human would respond is one way to make the 1129 01:11:36,150 --> 01:11:39,000 interaction with the AI feel more natural and intuitive for 1130 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:43,950 users? There you go. It's a trick. So it feels if it just 1131 01:11:43,950 --> 01:11:46,680 spit back a block of code, it wouldn't be as exciting. 1132 01:11:48,150 --> 01:11:50,220 Yeah, so the only thing that would make it better is if it 1133 01:11:50,220 --> 01:11:53,490 was in that green screen, monochrome CRT format, 1134 01:11:53,490 --> 01:11:56,010 and it ended with would you like to play a game 1135 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,370 that would then it would be good. It was all grainy. Yeah. 1136 01:11:59,910 --> 01:12:02,910 So it's a parlor trick, really. And it's wrong. I mean, that's 1137 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,540 really wrong. And that's going to piss people off. 1138 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,710 Now, the one thing that I have, I don't have X says to it, 1139 01:12:10,710 --> 01:12:13,710 because I didn't want to give it my personal information. But the 1140 01:12:14,130 --> 01:12:17,340 one one thing I don't know that anybody's asked it is, write 1141 01:12:17,340 --> 01:12:19,680 some code that will query the podcast index. 1142 01:12:19,710 --> 01:12:23,160 Okay, hold on. I just got in again. Let me okay, they 1143 01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,810 get them they get a VC infusion. 1144 01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,340 They got some money. Oh, it's all spending a lot of time on 1145 01:12:29,340 --> 01:12:34,710 signing in. Oh, I don't know. I don't know you're getting. Wow, 1146 01:12:35,130 --> 01:12:39,540 I wish I had the Ms. PacMan sad sound. Well, that may not log 1147 01:12:39,540 --> 01:12:45,210 in. Okay. Okay. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. Here it is. What was the 1148 01:12:45,210 --> 01:12:45,780 question? 1149 01:12:47,460 --> 01:12:53,280 ricin code that will query podcast index for episode data. 1150 01:12:54,450 --> 01:13:01,530 Podcast index. I'll do.org and give it a help write some code 1151 01:13:01,620 --> 01:13:06,120 that will query? Because that's what you said. 1152 01:13:06,150 --> 01:13:08,070 Yeah, no, no, I'm laughing to myself. 1153 01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:10,860 No query the podcast, 1154 01:13:11,610 --> 01:13:12,780 index API 1155 01:13:12,810 --> 01:13:14,370 index API 1156 01:13:15,090 --> 01:13:16,680 for episode data. 1157 01:13:17,610 --> 01:13:26,160 For Episode Episode data. All right. Let's go. Here's some 1158 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,250 Python code that uses the request library to query the 1159 01:13:29,250 --> 01:13:31,650 podcast API for episode data. 1160 01:13:32,550 --> 01:13:35,400 Podcast API was a podcast API, 1161 01:13:36,210 --> 01:13:40,650 a podcast index API. I'm sorry, it's writing import requests. It 1162 01:13:40,650 --> 01:13:44,340 has a URL for the module episode API dot podcast 1163 01:13:44,340 --> 01:13:52,320 index.org/api/one.zero. Episode slash bi underscore feed. Let me 1164 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,960 send this code. Let me send this code to you Dave. I'm not sure 1165 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,010 if it's actually code. 1166 01:13:56,610 --> 01:13:59,430 I wonder if you go, what if it just basically just scraped the 1167 01:13:59,430 --> 01:14:00,420 GitHub repo? 1168 01:14:02,370 --> 01:14:05,970 Out? In my mind, it gives me a whole explanation. Oh, they've 1169 01:14:05,970 --> 01:14:08,010 got more code. Oh, goodness. 1170 01:14:09,030 --> 01:14:10,440 What's it doing now as 1171 01:14:10,530 --> 01:14:13,260 much as in the code above, we first I sent it to you on 1172 01:14:13,260 --> 01:14:16,470 signal. We first import the request library. Then we defined 1173 01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:21,240 the base URL for the podcast. It's basically just it gets the 1174 01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,150 response to JSON. And 1175 01:14:25,980 --> 01:14:27,180 that's completely wrong. 1176 01:14:28,290 --> 01:14:30,360 Even I can see this is wrong. This is wrong. 1177 01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,930 It's showing you through zation tokens. It's showing 1178 01:14:33,930 --> 01:14:36,480 you how to access an API basically is not held 1179 01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:40,980 feeds.megaphone.fm/some podcast dash feed, okay. 1180 01:14:41,580 --> 01:14:43,800 Well, that's not even they don't even get our API endpoint, 1181 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,950 right? It's not episodes slash by underscore feed. That's 1182 01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:47,520 wrong. 1183 01:14:47,850 --> 01:14:53,550 Well, how come my code doesn't work? Put in the code didn't 1184 01:14:53,550 --> 01:14:54,210 work. 1185 01:14:57,900 --> 01:15:00,750 Let's see what it says somebody in Marmo or somebody is going to 1186 01:15:00,750 --> 01:15:03,930 email us and say, Hey, I got this code and it doesn't work. 1187 01:15:03,930 --> 01:15:05,850 Can you help me troubleshoot and it's gonna be this crap. 1188 01:15:08,130 --> 01:15:09,330 Anyway, it spending, 1189 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,240 I'm gonna say 24 hours you give me 24 hours. 1190 01:15:13,349 --> 01:15:16,019 It's been it's spending a lot of time telling me why why it's not 1191 01:15:16,019 --> 01:15:20,579 gonna work. Okay, fine. All right, so it's not all that 1192 01:15:20,579 --> 01:15:21,059 impressive. 1193 01:15:21,330 --> 01:15:22,140 Gotcha. Yes. 1194 01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,820 Ah, all right. What else do we have to talk about? I have a 1195 01:15:26,820 --> 01:15:29,340 couple of things here. What do you have anything on your oh, I 1196 01:15:29,340 --> 01:15:33,660 want to thank blueberry, I put two links in, in the show notes. 1197 01:15:33,900 --> 01:15:39,570 For the it's the boost bots, code, GitHub, and the iron 1198 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,960 cacophony, which is the framework for triggering sounds 1199 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:48,300 via IRC. So great name, but I'd love to have an umbrella app or 1200 01:15:48,300 --> 01:15:51,180 something or something that that just runs this stuff. Because 1201 01:15:51,420 --> 01:15:56,070 clearly my chat GPT is not going to be able to help me. I'd love 1202 01:15:57,390 --> 01:16:01,050 I'd love to have this, you know, firing different sounds. It's 1203 01:16:01,050 --> 01:16:03,180 cool. It's really, really cool. I like it a lot. 1204 01:16:04,980 --> 01:16:08,880 I got. So I've been playing around with Nathan gathright. 1205 01:16:08,940 --> 01:16:11,730 We're talking a lot about him today. He he's actually going to 1206 01:16:11,730 --> 01:16:15,240 be on the show soon. Post this, get him on Nathan, Nathan G. 1207 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:20,070 From from Nathan gathright. He's worked for Spotify. Now. He's 1208 01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:27,870 they just He's all over podcast index dot social. He's real 1209 01:16:27,870 --> 01:16:34,770 helpful. Good guy. Right. But he wrote a he wrote a podcast, 1210 01:16:35,430 --> 01:16:44,520 image API using Cloudflare workers. And he's showing me how 1211 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,240 he sent me the code, show me how to deploy it. And it works 1212 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,610 great. So I've been playing around with that that's the same 1213 01:16:50,610 --> 01:16:53,550 as the thing we've been trying to build for years, you know, 1214 01:16:53,550 --> 01:16:56,130 multiple times too. So basically, you can just ask it 1215 01:16:56,130 --> 01:17:03,420 for a you can just ask it for a an image of a feed of a feed 1216 01:17:03,420 --> 01:17:06,930 GUID. You can just say, here's the feed good. And I need an 1217 01:17:06,930 --> 01:17:12,510 image. Any I need its image and I want it to be this size. And 1218 01:17:12,510 --> 01:17:13,530 it will just give all 1219 01:17:13,530 --> 01:17:16,710 right, right? How beautiful. You've been working on that? 1220 01:17:17,250 --> 01:17:19,860 No, it will. I've been playing around with the code. He wrote, 1221 01:17:19,890 --> 01:17:23,160 oh, cool. Works great. I deployed it to our Cloudflare 1222 01:17:25,380 --> 01:17:27,930 you know, instance, or schema or whatever you want to call that 1223 01:17:27,930 --> 01:17:31,470 tenant, or Cloudflare tenant, and it works. It works killer. 1224 01:17:31,470 --> 01:17:35,550 And so I want to I gotta have get some a little bit more time 1225 01:17:35,550 --> 01:17:40,800 to, to play with and see it, make sure I fully understand how 1226 01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,590 it's working. And then hopefully, we can get him on the 1227 01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:46,590 show. Because he's also building steno.fm. You know, the 1228 01:17:46,590 --> 01:17:47,190 transcript. 1229 01:17:48,420 --> 01:17:51,060 Right. Okay. Now I know what you're talking about. Yes, yes. 1230 01:17:51,510 --> 01:17:55,410 So hopefully, when he gets some traction on that, it gets ready 1231 01:17:55,410 --> 01:17:57,960 for that we'll have him on, we just go over all of it at the 1232 01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,930 same time. But it's pretty killer. And I'm Hope I'm hoping 1233 01:18:00,930 --> 01:18:03,240 that this will solve people's problems, because now you can 1234 01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:07,320 just have one cause enabled place to request images, you 1235 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:12,060 don't have to have 4 million different your domains, the jet 1236 01:18:12,060 --> 01:18:14,700 request images from and they're all stand, they're all 1237 01:18:14,700 --> 01:18:17,970 normalized. You don't have to worry about getting back a PDF. 1238 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,840 Yeah, no, it's great. It's exactly it's working exactly 1239 01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,070 like what, when 1240 01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,120 any that anyone can set up and then run themselves. 1241 01:18:30,780 --> 01:18:33,630 Yeah, he's published the code is open, aka beautiful. 1242 01:18:33,660 --> 01:18:36,120 I want that on my own bro, too. I want all of it on my Umbral 1243 01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:40,890 does not, this is not only not only Umbral friendly, no, 1244 01:18:41,130 --> 01:18:43,680 yes, yeah, you have to you deploy it, you essentially you 1245 01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:47,340 download it, you download the you clone the repo and then you 1246 01:18:47,730 --> 01:18:51,360 put in your Cloudflare information and you deploy the 1247 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:57,570 code to your Cloudflare workers. And it will then begin to do 1248 01:18:57,570 --> 01:19:01,560 your thing, because you set up a dumb a specific subdomain to 1249 01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,350 call that Cloudflare. worker and then that's how you interact 1250 01:19:04,350 --> 01:19:08,370 with it. It's great, cool. It's great. 1251 01:19:08,550 --> 01:19:11,310 But I mean, all these things are just, you're right. I think 1252 01:19:11,310 --> 01:19:14,070 we've got a lot we have a lot of serious development going on 1253 01:19:14,070 --> 01:19:15,690 recently. It feels really good. 1254 01:19:16,290 --> 01:19:20,790 It does. Yeah, it does. It feels good to have a big a bunch of a 1255 01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:27,000 bunch of good solid development going on. Yeah. During, in a in 1256 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,630 a mature project is not the early days anymore, you know, 1257 01:19:30,630 --> 01:19:33,240 mean things or we've been we've been here a while now. And so 1258 01:19:33,540 --> 01:19:37,290 there's still big nice progress being made, which is it's a good 1259 01:19:37,290 --> 01:19:38,280 feeling. It's good feel, 1260 01:19:38,490 --> 01:19:43,170 shall we thank a few people. So we can Yeah, because we were 1261 01:19:43,170 --> 01:19:45,930 playing around so much before we started the show talking about 1262 01:19:45,930 --> 01:19:50,100 cars, which I apologize to the podcast listeners because it was 1263 01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:50,760 good stuff. 1264 01:19:53,730 --> 01:19:54,600 Tune in early. 1265 01:19:55,020 --> 01:19:57,510 That's right when you want it when we go live. You want to be 1266 01:19:57,510 --> 01:20:03,420 there. Let's he kick it off here with these are the live boosts 1267 01:20:03,420 --> 01:20:06,240 came in. And as you guys you heard we don't take money from 1268 01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,680 corporations we don't use advertising, your support of 1269 01:20:10,830 --> 01:20:15,600 podcasts index, the show podcasting 2.0 supports podcast 1270 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:20,160 index.org directly it goes into paying bills it additionally 1271 01:20:20,370 --> 01:20:25,200 goes into providing liquidity. Anybody who has a node or wants 1272 01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,260 them wants a channel, we're happy to give it to you not a 1273 01:20:28,260 --> 01:20:32,130 problem at all. Even if it screws up and closes we'll open 1274 01:20:32,130 --> 01:20:36,420 up a new one. That stuff happens so we're happy to do it. Anyone 1275 01:20:36,420 --> 01:20:40,440 who needs it and yeah, it keeps everything rolling. And you can 1276 01:20:40,440 --> 01:20:43,260 do that by going to podcast index.org If you want to while 1277 01:20:43,260 --> 01:20:46,560 it's still possible before the fashio adjacent is no longer 1278 01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,620 possible on Pay Pal you can send us your Fiat fun coupons, the 1279 01:20:49,620 --> 01:20:54,990 big red donate button we also have a tally coin QR code there 1280 01:20:54,990 --> 01:20:59,520 which you can hit with lightning or with on chain Bitcoin. And of 1281 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:03,120 course through any of the modern podcast that you can podcast 1282 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:08,040 apps, you can get a new podcast apps.com Now with HTTPS and 1283 01:21:10,020 --> 01:21:16,110 coming in from fountain Fletcher, what 14,141 SATs 14141 1284 01:21:16,110 --> 01:21:22,530 Have I been annexed by fascists? Oh yeah, you have Mike Newman 1285 01:21:22,890 --> 01:21:30,840 123456 Boost boost boost very nice man. Shot Caller 20 blades 1286 01:21:30,870 --> 01:21:34,560 on him follow these days that's a you know Bitcoin moving 1287 01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:38,070 towards 20,000 That's nice Mike Newman celebrating get Albion 1288 01:21:38,070 --> 01:21:42,810 fountain.fm joining the party easing the Fiat to freedom 1289 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:44,910 Yeah, thank you much. Thanks, 1290 01:21:44,910 --> 01:21:50,910 Bruce. And that week that came in from pod verse next we have 1291 01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:57,150 see no name we got Eric p p 33,333. Thank you very much. 1292 01:21:57,510 --> 01:22:03,420 Dobby das who actually prompt us rot Lu is that our Oh okay. 1293 01:22:03,420 --> 01:22:06,690 Right prompted me to get the HTTPS thing working Thank you 1294 01:22:06,690 --> 01:22:13,110 very much. 17,777 this like a straight up striper boost, I 1295 01:22:13,110 --> 01:22:18,210 guess one one striper boost chat F 3333. He says I've been using 1296 01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,700 lb with POD verse and iOS for the past month and it's been 1297 01:22:20,700 --> 01:22:26,310 rock solid agree. There's blueberry 33,333 Does anyone 1298 01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,940 present have an opinion on an open source solution to substack 1299 01:22:29,940 --> 01:22:32,970 for weekly newsletters show notes will be nice to link 1300 01:22:32,970 --> 01:22:36,720 inside the article for headers to headers for chapters. Also 1301 01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,690 finally got some inspiration for value for value GIF art for the 1302 01:22:39,690 --> 01:22:40,830 lips get pumped. 1303 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:47,520 Alex recommended to me the other day write freely. And 1304 01:22:48,090 --> 01:22:51,840 I've liked it. That's a cool little thing. Yes, I agree. That 1305 01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:52,110 is good. 1306 01:22:52,110 --> 01:22:55,080 I think that's a good I think that think his use of it is 1307 01:22:55,140 --> 01:22:57,480 enough endorsement for me to get 1308 01:22:59,340 --> 01:23:02,820 10,000 SATs from Chad F who was clearly listening listening to 1309 01:23:02,820 --> 01:23:07,650 the pregame. He says nothing screams X MTV VJ like an El 1310 01:23:07,650 --> 01:23:08,400 Camino 1311 01:23:10,650 --> 01:23:14,250 is that the chosen vehicle? vixen TVs only 1312 01:23:14,250 --> 01:23:19,350 if you have the vanity plate. MTV rocks are Oh X. Okay. By the 1313 01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:24,960 way when I was at MTV, and I just had registered mtv.com I 1314 01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,000 had mtv.com has a license plate 1315 01:23:27,690 --> 01:23:30,090 that you get the DoD you throw it in with a sharpie Exactly. 1316 01:23:31,470 --> 01:23:34,500 Martin Linda's code with a row of ducks soon talking with Mr. 1317 01:23:34,500 --> 01:23:38,400 Palmer's talk listen to you guys later on. Oh, okay. The Tea 1318 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,610 Party media podcast. Thank you. We have Dred Scott. Pre 1319 01:23:41,610 --> 01:23:48,390 boosting. You says 88,888. Go podcasting. Thank you. Very 1320 01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:51,330 nice. 1000 SATs. Gosh, sorry, 1321 01:23:51,449 --> 01:23:54,749 by the way, Mike Newman. It gives a baller bass while ago. 1322 01:23:54,749 --> 01:24:00,209 He is the maintainer of the team repo that keeps credit where 1323 01:24:00,209 --> 01:24:03,059 credit is due. Oh, excellent. Excellent. Excellent. 1324 01:24:05,220 --> 01:24:08,400 Where are we Sockeye? The horse with 1000 No, no, thank you. 1325 01:24:09,390 --> 01:24:12,810 Thank you Sockeye. Boop, donation. No, that's not the 1326 01:24:12,810 --> 01:24:17,250 sound that I'm looking at my my helipad, that's why I'm mixing 1327 01:24:17,250 --> 01:24:21,810 it up here. I think that actually that was it. We had a 1328 01:24:21,870 --> 01:24:24,210 no this is five hours ago. That's that's the delimiter 1329 01:24:24,210 --> 01:24:28,110 comics reblog. Okay, so over to you, Dave. Would you've got the 1330 01:24:28,500 --> 01:24:30,600 pay pals the boost, and the monthlies. 1331 01:24:31,050 --> 01:24:34,830 We have no paper towels, zero paper towels. We got monthlies, 1332 01:24:34,830 --> 01:24:37,710 but we don't have any one. Oh, we are transitioning. 1333 01:24:37,980 --> 01:24:41,850 We are we are off off the paper towels. I'm really happy because 1334 01:24:41,850 --> 01:24:45,810 we we still have money. We can still pay the bills. So this is 1335 01:24:45,810 --> 01:24:47,790 good. Thank you all. Thank you all very much. 1336 01:24:48,510 --> 01:24:52,470 I'm the I'm waiting to see how that's another reason I'm 1337 01:24:53,730 --> 01:24:58,290 proceeding cautiously with the podcast with Nathan's podcast 1338 01:24:58,290 --> 01:25:01,230 image repo code on one waiting to see how this impacts the 1339 01:25:01,230 --> 01:25:05,070 bottom line. Yeah, on the Cloudflare thinks I don't 1340 01:25:05,550 --> 01:25:09,390 looking at the pricing table. I feel pretty good about it. I 1341 01:25:09,390 --> 01:25:11,130 don't think it's going to be a killer. What's our 1342 01:25:11,130 --> 01:25:17,490 Cloudflare Bill these days? It's like Cloud sandbox. 7080 bucks. 1343 01:25:17,850 --> 01:25:24,240 Yes. $70 $75 Something like that. And then our Linode bill 1344 01:25:24,750 --> 01:25:29,880 is around 500 Yeah, yes, it's it's I think it's I think it's 1345 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:35,220 Cloudflare is like 7070 bucks. I'm like that. I'll get Yeah, 1346 01:25:35,220 --> 01:25:38,670 but we do have some bootcamps we got the 500 from in a millennial 1347 01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:41,460 says love hearing from Mitch and love pod verse boosted through 1348 01:25:41,460 --> 01:25:43,140 fountain for maximum irony. 1349 01:25:45,090 --> 01:25:47,070 Yes, well done. Yes. 1350 01:25:47,999 --> 01:25:55,649 Chimp sits as 97,531 SATs through. Nice is boosting from 1351 01:25:55,649 --> 01:25:57,779 Miami, home of the FTX arena. 1352 01:25:59,820 --> 01:26:03,120 By the way, I saw in the new fountain there was like an 1353 01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:06,840 activity stream on the homepage now. I saw you boosting a 1354 01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:11,610 podcast with 200,000 SATs you baller you ball ball. You know 1355 01:26:11,610 --> 01:26:14,430 what that you know what that did? To me? It made me subscribe 1356 01:26:14,430 --> 01:26:16,230 to that podcast. Oh, 1357 01:26:16,230 --> 01:26:18,510 I thought you're gonna say ashamed you into sin descending 1358 01:26:18,510 --> 01:26:18,990 bigger booth. 1359 01:26:19,020 --> 01:26:21,450 No, I didn't. I've never I don't know what podcast that was I 1360 01:26:21,450 --> 01:26:24,840 just whatever it is. Then this, by the way is your podcast 1361 01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:29,160 discovery. This is your discovery. When I see when I see 1362 01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:34,020 Dave Jones. liking something with 200,000 SATs. I'm like I'm 1363 01:26:34,020 --> 01:26:37,050 gonna I'm gonna subscribe. I'll listen to it later. It's got to 1364 01:26:37,050 --> 01:26:37,500 be good. 1365 01:26:38,100 --> 01:26:40,830 That's a bunch of buddies of mine that do a Dungeons and 1366 01:26:40,830 --> 01:26:45,420 Dragons podcast and they're like, it's funny. It's just so 1367 01:26:45,420 --> 01:26:45,990 that's 1368 01:26:45,990 --> 01:26:47,880 what that is. Okay, I'm gonna describe 1369 01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,270 it was it was funny because because their their DNA. Their 1370 01:26:54,270 --> 01:26:57,630 d&d campaign is set in Coleman at Coleman County, Alabama. 1371 01:26:59,310 --> 01:27:03,780 What's interesting now when I liked your comment, for some 1372 01:27:03,780 --> 01:27:10,170 reason it was 420 shots. I think it does like a multiple of so 1373 01:27:10,170 --> 01:27:14,880 you had I have my my minute Sats are always set to 200 SATs a 1374 01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,000 minute. So because it was a two so I guess it because it was 1375 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:22,380 200,000 SATs. It took that it added the 20 And it turned out 1376 01:27:22,380 --> 01:27:26,520 to be 420 which I just thought was funny by itself. Whatever 1377 01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,800 fountain is doing I like it you're taking my money and I'm 1378 01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,600 feeling good about it. So well done. 1379 01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,130 What is looking at fountains charts here because I was 1380 01:27:35,370 --> 01:27:39,180 because they just brought their podcast back because it had been 1381 01:27:39,180 --> 01:27:41,460 gone for a while and I was like I'm gonna I'm gonna give him a 1382 01:27:41,460 --> 01:27:44,760 big baller boost to try to get them up on the charts here. But 1383 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,540 I don't know how these things are calculated. So game the 1384 01:27:48,540 --> 01:27:48,930 system, 1385 01:27:49,020 --> 01:27:53,400 smoke and mirrors man smoke doesn't matter. I'm always happy 1386 01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,160 when there's someone else on top because one of the shows I'm 1387 01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,250 doing it's like, it makes it somebody else please. 1388 01:28:00,630 --> 01:28:03,480 That your modesty just some modest No, I 1389 01:28:04,050 --> 01:28:06,450 don't really like leaderboards and charts. But you know, I'm 1390 01:28:06,450 --> 01:28:09,390 not going to tell them not to put us on it. Because of course 1391 01:28:09,390 --> 01:28:11,820 Tina gets a big kick out of seeing Corinne the keeper on the 1392 01:28:11,820 --> 01:28:12,330 list 1393 01:28:12,869 --> 01:28:19,049 this year. Okay, Martin Linda Skog. 2222 Row ducks he says 1394 01:28:19,049 --> 01:28:24,209 Dave, did you get my late 2022 Booster gram of 123456 Satoshis 1395 01:28:24,329 --> 01:28:25,109 Yes, the missing 1396 01:28:25,590 --> 01:28:28,230 Oh, we found that we found the first one. Yes. Okay. Yes 1397 01:28:33,390 --> 01:28:37,800 I did find it. And I printed it out. And it's upstairs. 1398 01:28:38,820 --> 01:28:41,640 Well done. Well done, sir. Okay, sir. 1399 01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,700 Cool. Double make good next week. 1400 01:28:46,110 --> 01:28:47,670 All right, you better write that down. 1401 01:28:48,060 --> 01:28:49,290 I am. I'm ready to see. 1402 01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:52,590 I'm gonna put it in the show notes myself. I'm a reminder 1403 01:28:52,590 --> 01:28:54,420 hornsund is going to pop up for me. I really 1404 01:28:54,870 --> 01:28:56,160 just know. 1405 01:28:57,570 --> 01:29:00,660 This is the ultimate way to do value for value people. This is 1406 01:29:00,660 --> 01:29:01,590 how you do it. 1407 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:07,350 Jean being 2222 through fountain he says regarding Mastodon and 1408 01:29:07,350 --> 01:29:11,970 sidekick at NOVA at Hackett derm.io and team are looking at 1409 01:29:11,970 --> 01:29:16,890 the scalability and alternative solutions. Okay. All right. All 1410 01:29:16,890 --> 01:29:20,970 right. Good luck, Nova. Yep. Je mean again 2222 through fountain 1411 01:29:20,970 --> 01:29:24,030 he says, oh, yikes. I had no idea episode splits were not 1412 01:29:24,030 --> 01:29:28,140 supported by pod verse. Well, they are. No no, 1413 01:29:28,140 --> 01:29:31,050 no, no, no, no, those are not. That's not and that's a real 1414 01:29:31,050 --> 01:29:31,590 problem. 1415 01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,250 That's right. I'm on Buzzsprout and like most hosts, they direct 1416 01:29:35,250 --> 01:29:39,120 me to the podcaster wallet right now. Well, Pa episode splits 1417 01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,460 aren't on podcast or wallet either. So that's 1418 01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,180 why I thought you could do episode splits. I guess you 1419 01:29:45,180 --> 01:29:48,450 can't do them on podcast a while only only show level. 1420 01:29:50,010 --> 01:29:52,590 That's right. Yeah, grumble? 1421 01:29:52,620 --> 01:29:55,290 Yeah, that is that is a groan because I really rely on this 1422 01:29:55,290 --> 01:29:59,970 and I feel kind of bad because we have people listening on pod 1423 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,410 URLs to the list shows and and the await no agenda does do it 1424 01:30:04,410 --> 01:30:06,570 at the show level. Okay. Yeah, 1425 01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:10,680 you do. I think you do it whenever. I think you put it at 1426 01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,460 the show level also each week like when there's a new person, 1427 01:30:14,460 --> 01:30:14,790 right? 1428 01:30:15,450 --> 01:30:20,730 I know agenda Yes, but not on podcasting. 2.0 I just I've just 1429 01:30:20,730 --> 01:30:22,560 always been doing it at the episode level. 1430 01:30:23,370 --> 01:30:28,260 Yeah. Okay, there's Mitch. ALIX. Okay. Yes, he didn't last week. 1431 01:30:28,740 --> 01:30:31,200 All right. Yeah, I'll revisit that at some point. I'll get 1432 01:30:31,230 --> 01:30:35,700 I'll put it in the chat F 50,000. Sets. Do pod verse no 1433 01:30:35,700 --> 01:30:36,540 note No, thank 1434 01:30:36,540 --> 01:30:37,050 you very much. 1435 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,500 Just give me do a no chair. 1436 01:30:40,530 --> 01:30:42,090 No man. Notice. 1437 01:30:42,510 --> 01:30:48,000 Note. No Python booster. Gene been again 2222 says Dave, can 1438 01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:52,320 you see no Dave You can change Mastodon to where all signups 1439 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,870 have to be approved. Foster Don does it yes, we do this too. 1440 01:30:55,170 --> 01:30:55,650 That's right. 1441 01:30:56,490 --> 01:31:00,000 Three Three boosts from Gene F boost boost boost. Boost. 1442 01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:04,530 James Cridland 1001 through fountain he says great episode 1443 01:31:04,530 --> 01:31:07,050 super good to hear everyone pulling towards cross app 1444 01:31:07,050 --> 01:31:10,890 comments in a way that can work for everyone go podcasting. Now 1445 01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:14,340 last week's episode was great. It was very productive 1001 1446 01:31:14,340 --> 01:31:19,590 SATs you don't get to go podcasting in a movie boost by 1447 01:31:19,590 --> 01:31:23,940 Central 77,777 Saturday's show the other day 1448 01:31:25,110 --> 01:31:29,250 Oh yeah. That's mega striper. That's an arena striper arena 1449 01:31:37,020 --> 01:31:42,510 with a Keto is Yeah, I thought I thought last week's episode was 1450 01:31:42,510 --> 01:31:46,950 great was great. When you have professionals on the show 1451 01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:51,120 instead of those two Yahoo's things get done it you know, 1452 01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,900 that's what I liked about the episode. I it was definitely not 1453 01:31:54,900 --> 01:31:59,280 for everybody. But I agree that it was it was an you had done 1454 01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,250 this on purpose and I liked it a lot you brought in the people 1455 01:32:02,250 --> 01:32:07,230 who could actually cut through the crap and and figure it out. 1456 01:32:07,440 --> 01:32:11,280 And we made some I think we had some conclusions and that 1457 01:32:11,370 --> 01:32:14,550 sparked good stuff with the people. It surely was a board 1458 01:32:14,550 --> 01:32:16,500 meeting conversation. Yeah. 1459 01:32:17,550 --> 01:32:24,060 I know when we need the charity to come in, give us in and give 1460 01:32:24,060 --> 01:32:26,490 us some in whip us into shape. 1461 01:32:26,789 --> 01:32:28,619 Yes, you do. You do. 1462 01:32:29,159 --> 01:32:34,889 Appreciate Alex coming on. And Mitch both. Roland 1000 SATs he 1463 01:32:34,889 --> 01:32:38,399 says I set up my V for V podcast with anchor LB and podcaster 1464 01:32:38,399 --> 01:32:40,499 wallet. We'll go Roland. Good job dude. 1465 01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,500 All right, buddy. Host Mike Dell 1466 01:32:43,530 --> 01:32:46,890 22 to 22 Big row ducks through pod verse. He says blueberry is 1467 01:32:46,890 --> 01:32:52,620 podcasting. 2.0 certified. That's right. You are 1468 01:32:54,060 --> 01:32:56,790 that's that's really big. And I'm really excited that the 1469 01:32:56,790 --> 01:33:01,350 blueberry is John that tip. That leaves leaves only Lipson right, 1470 01:33:01,350 --> 01:33:05,850 who are just slagging. What are you laughing at me? 1471 01:33:06,180 --> 01:33:09,360 Why are you rapping? No, I'm a raffinate. Lipson. 1472 01:33:10,289 --> 01:33:14,039 You know, curdling keeps hinting the funny that a podcast company 1473 01:33:14,039 --> 01:33:17,099 will go bankrupt this year. And I can't help it. But I always 1474 01:33:17,099 --> 01:33:17,819 hear Lipson, 1475 01:33:18,420 --> 01:33:21,780 my mind, they're not going back to I know who it is. You know 1476 01:33:21,780 --> 01:33:25,710 who it is, how it's going, but I've got I've got my I've got my 1477 01:33:25,710 --> 01:33:28,470 theory about who's going oh, you have a theory. Okay. All right. 1478 01:33:28,470 --> 01:33:32,100 Yes, I can. I'm not going to hurt his feelings. 1479 01:33:32,130 --> 01:33:39,150 No. Can we can we help them? No, no. Okay. All right. Done. All 1480 01:33:39,150 --> 01:33:39,540 right. 1481 01:33:40,860 --> 01:33:44,430 Mike Dell, I mean, hold on. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 1482 01:33:45,780 --> 01:33:48,690 You say we can help them? Whatever it is, someone's having 1483 01:33:48,690 --> 01:33:52,140 a financial issue. I'm really good at helping people raise 1484 01:33:52,140 --> 01:33:56,310 money. And if it's if it's someone that, you know, that 1485 01:33:56,310 --> 01:33:59,460 wants to be helped, I mean, I'm I just don't want to laugh it 1486 01:33:59,460 --> 01:34:02,910 off. Is there any way we can help this company? 1487 01:34:04,140 --> 01:34:07,080 I want to be clear that I don't I don't have inside information. 1488 01:34:07,110 --> 01:34:11,670 I just know that. I just have my theory about because I've been 1489 01:34:11,670 --> 01:34:15,510 thinking this for about six months already. That when with 1490 01:34:15,510 --> 01:34:18,390 the economy, and we're starting to see we're starting to see 1491 01:34:18,390 --> 01:34:23,850 layoffs. Not just layoffs on on big companies, but layoffs on 1492 01:34:24,270 --> 01:34:28,170 they're starting to hit the smaller companies too. Yeah. And 1493 01:34:28,290 --> 01:34:32,460 and I think I think the next six to 12 months is going to be 1494 01:34:32,460 --> 01:34:37,230 painful. For sure. Yeah. So I don't I don't know like no 1495 01:34:37,230 --> 01:34:41,490 anything. No, like No, no it but if it's the if it's the company 1496 01:34:41,490 --> 01:34:46,590 that I've thought of for the last few months, no, no, there's 1497 01:34:46,590 --> 01:34:48,240 no there's no turning 1498 01:34:49,290 --> 01:34:53,580 moments to bad yeah, I will say if anyone needs help raising 1499 01:34:53,580 --> 01:34:56,910 money or any kind of issues, we gladly he's here to help if we 1500 01:34:56,910 --> 01:34:59,790 can always always, always happy to help 1501 01:35:00,989 --> 01:35:04,139 And I'll say that I think that everybody would be better off if 1502 01:35:04,139 --> 01:35:07,169 it actually happened. 204 anchor 1503 01:35:07,380 --> 01:35:12,210 or anchor anchors are already safe. 1504 01:35:15,150 --> 01:35:17,250 Yeah, we need to get tied mike back on the show. I mean, they 1505 01:35:17,250 --> 01:35:19,950 just been we gotta get an update from the horse's mouth. 1506 01:35:20,250 --> 01:35:23,010 We got we got Oscar Murray coming up first, I think 1507 01:35:23,340 --> 01:35:28,260 next week. Yeah. And then we're not sure when I can get Nathan 1508 01:35:28,260 --> 01:35:31,590 on. It depends on him. And then I'll, we'll get we'll get Todd 1509 01:35:31,590 --> 01:35:32,130 and Miko, 1510 01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:35,250 excellent. Well, because now is the time that when people 1511 01:35:35,250 --> 01:35:38,100 release something big, this is where we need to come on the 1512 01:35:38,100 --> 01:35:41,220 show. Let's talk about what's promoted. Hopefully, somewhere 1513 01:35:41,220 --> 01:35:44,760 in the next few weeks, we'll also have Ibex will complete 1514 01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:50,370 their lightning node. I mean, they have the invoice part and 1515 01:35:50,370 --> 01:35:53,790 it goes because they they can pay you out in Bitcoin or in US 1516 01:35:53,790 --> 01:35:57,960 dollars through your bank account, which is a big deal for 1517 01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,600 a lot of people who who want to do it that way. 1518 01:36:01,110 --> 01:36:03,570 And I said, targeting, you're targeting to one right, you're 1519 01:36:03,570 --> 01:36:05,340 targeting to one? Yeah, I 1520 01:36:05,340 --> 01:36:08,820 mean, I literally just asked for an update today. It's like, you 1521 01:36:08,820 --> 01:36:12,000 know, if, because, you know, if you get that done, then we'll 1522 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:13,440 promote it will help you. 1523 01:36:14,130 --> 01:36:16,050 What if they say that they're gonna switch everything to web 1524 01:36:16,050 --> 01:36:16,980 monetization? 1525 01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:25,290 Well, it's not fair to try and tease me like that. That's to 1526 01:36:25,290 --> 01:36:26,640 say bad things. 1527 01:36:28,050 --> 01:36:32,040 Taking a grant from web. We're gonna change our business model. 1528 01:36:33,990 --> 01:36:37,080 I love by the way that the economy is going to shit and it 1529 01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:42,780 doesn't matter if we fire either of us. It doesn't save any 1530 01:36:42,780 --> 01:36:43,170 money. 1531 01:36:45,420 --> 01:36:48,120 That's the good thing about being cheap. You don't have to 1532 01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:52,410 worry about these job security. That's right. Yeah. Thank you, 1533 01:36:52,410 --> 01:36:55,710 Mike. Appreciate that. Mike Dell again. 1500 SAS the fountain, he 1534 01:36:55,710 --> 01:37:00,330 says, leaning out my fountain wallet. Okay, all right. I'm 1535 01:37:00,330 --> 01:37:03,420 gonna be leaning out. Oh, boy Schonfeld look who showed up 1536 01:37:03,450 --> 01:37:09,360 Hey, Roy 54 321 from breezy says go podcast. 1537 01:37:09,570 --> 01:37:14,220 And we love that podcast. He is the only lightning related 1538 01:37:14,220 --> 01:37:19,410 company LSP like company that has ever supported us. Never 1539 01:37:19,410 --> 01:37:22,950 seen anything from lightning labs or any of those guys. I 1540 01:37:22,950 --> 01:37:23,760 mean, the Bitcoin 1541 01:37:23,790 --> 01:37:27,540 the Bitcoin guys. They talk big but they never send any, any any 1542 01:37:27,540 --> 01:37:28,200 SATs. No. 1543 01:37:28,530 --> 01:37:31,410 And you know, and any one of them could send us a full coin. 1544 01:37:32,159 --> 01:37:39,509 Yeah. Oh, we've gotten more SATs, excluding ROI. We've 1545 01:37:39,509 --> 01:37:46,469 gotten more SATs from Brian and hive and we have from the 1546 01:37:46,469 --> 01:37:47,189 Bitcoin table 1547 01:37:47,430 --> 01:37:51,180 and look at the sink it Yeah, but look at all the app guys. 1548 01:37:51,750 --> 01:37:59,220 Fountain supports us. Pod verse supports us. Several hosting 1549 01:37:59,220 --> 01:38:06,960 companies support us. rss.com Buzzsprout blueberry, you know, 1550 01:38:07,140 --> 01:38:10,530 these. Thank you. Just thank you so much. Thank you for and when 1551 01:38:10,530 --> 01:38:12,600 I say support, I mean you're returning value. That's really 1552 01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:16,920 what you're doing. That's nice. It feels good. Oh, man. Molina's 1553 01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:21,210 cooking something really good. Smell good. Friday, yeah, 1554 01:38:21,210 --> 01:38:22,500 Friday, Friday. He's 1555 01:38:22,500 --> 01:38:24,360 cooking at 220 in the afternoon. 1556 01:38:24,750 --> 01:38:27,720 My girl My girl is fantastic, bro. I tell you. 1557 01:38:29,370 --> 01:38:30,240 Is this a PA? 1558 01:38:30,990 --> 01:38:34,410 You know, I I made her go through all of the apps doing 1559 01:38:34,410 --> 01:38:39,660 all of the sign up. She's so brave. She's so brave. She is 1560 01:38:39,660 --> 01:38:42,810 great because you know, she is not afraid but she'll just like 1561 01:38:42,810 --> 01:38:45,600 hey, I don't understand this stop stop the train. 1562 01:38:47,430 --> 01:38:51,900 That's well, I mean that's, that's valuable information. 1563 01:38:52,590 --> 01:38:56,730 I'm sorry. It's just I smelled this this meal. There's cooking 1564 01:38:56,730 --> 01:38:58,440 like I got hypnotized. 1565 01:39:01,500 --> 01:39:04,470 Anonymous 10,000 SATs Thank you anonymous. That was the partners 1566 01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:08,490 interesting. Nomad Joe nomad. Joe since 2000 sets your 1567 01:39:08,490 --> 01:39:11,430 founding sis, thanks for asset access to the board meeting. 1568 01:39:11,460 --> 01:39:12,090 Well, you're welcome. 1569 01:39:13,470 --> 01:39:15,960 Come on anytime you want to donate 1570 01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:24,180 to coffee on the counter. Yes, boosts came from busy brain 1571 01:39:24,210 --> 01:39:27,300 centers. 10,000 SATs to founding says thank you guys for all you 1572 01:39:27,300 --> 01:39:29,820 do to build what I personally think is a world changing 1573 01:39:29,820 --> 01:39:33,240 protocol for the betterment of society. I feel honored to have 1574 01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:35,910 the opportunity to listen in from afar. This will be the 1575 01:39:35,910 --> 01:39:39,210 first of many boosts you'll likely see from me in the future 1576 01:39:39,210 --> 01:39:42,780 much love from reading Bitcoin podcast. Oh, there's a Bitcoin 1577 01:39:42,780 --> 01:39:43,140 guy. 1578 01:39:43,170 --> 01:39:45,300 There you go. Thank you Bitcoin guy. 1579 01:39:46,380 --> 01:39:48,540 Busy brain. You just say you just did. 1580 01:39:50,490 --> 01:39:54,990 And Dred Scott just dropped a 22,222 boost, bro a duck's 1581 01:39:54,990 --> 01:40:01,440 boosting for the pew pew. Oh hey, Got a drum? We take 1582 01:40:01,440 --> 01:40:02,130 requests? 1583 01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:08,460 I love the pregnant PP Paul's Yes, good. Stephen B. Row sticks 1584 01:40:08,490 --> 01:40:11,610 are a satchel of Richards is through the podcast index 1585 01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:16,350 webpage. He says Kiwi browser mobile test boost. Look at Kiwi 1586 01:40:16,350 --> 01:40:16,830 browser. 1587 01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:21,240 Oh, I think that's something that Oh, kiwi browser runs on 1588 01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:27,210 Android and I believe you can load extensions. So yeah, and 1589 01:40:27,210 --> 01:40:29,610 thank you. There's another app developer who is supporting us 1590 01:40:29,610 --> 01:40:32,910 with value. Thank you very much, Steven B. Curio caster. Ha. 1591 01:40:33,690 --> 01:40:36,630 Okay. Okay, I'll have to look into Kiwi browser. That's cool. 1592 01:40:36,660 --> 01:40:37,320 That's cool. 1593 01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:42,840 Roland sent us 1000 SATs through pod versus testing split 1594 01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:48,810 payments with lb test successful Roland. Very good. The tone 1595 01:40:48,810 --> 01:40:51,450 wrecker sent us 40,000 SATs through fountain Nene says 1596 01:40:51,450 --> 01:40:57,990 renewing annual scissor insurance. Please proceed. Just 1597 01:40:58,020 --> 01:41:00,060 please proceed to commence running again. 1598 01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:03,360 Careful now. Careful, careful careful, 1599 01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:10,050 though. I just think I just got I got an eyebrow. Okay. Oh, and 1600 01:41:10,050 --> 01:41:13,860 let's see we get trug true grits. Oh, true grits always 1601 01:41:13,860 --> 01:41:17,190 struggle with this name. 6000 sets their fountain he says, I 1602 01:41:17,190 --> 01:41:18,960 would like to see crosstab comments, especially for 1603 01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:21,870 podcasts that don't use booster grams. I would like that to 1604 01:41:21,900 --> 01:41:23,340 trigger it. Oh, and 1605 01:41:23,940 --> 01:41:27,930 before I forget, Oscar was working on some. We made a 1606 01:41:27,930 --> 01:41:32,070 suggestion on the website and some thread we were on about the 1607 01:41:32,460 --> 01:41:36,810 booster Graham's for podcasting 2.0 which are private, and so 1608 01:41:36,810 --> 01:41:41,790 don't don't show up on fountain and he's working on a way for us 1609 01:41:41,790 --> 01:41:45,090 to toggle it so that after we've done the live show, then they 1610 01:41:45,090 --> 01:41:50,280 can be displayed, which I think is a great way to do it. So that 1611 01:41:50,310 --> 01:41:53,160 that makes me really happy. So we still have the surprise 1612 01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:57,180 element. And and of course it'd be even better if we could if we 1613 01:41:57,180 --> 01:42:00,240 wanted to not have one show up and it doesn't matter if we can 1614 01:42:00,630 --> 01:42:03,930 turn them live after we've done the live show and gone through 1615 01:42:03,930 --> 01:42:06,210 the donation segment. I love it. Beautiful idea. 1616 01:42:06,930 --> 01:42:11,700 Cool. chat with him him about that next week. Commentary 1617 01:42:11,700 --> 01:42:15,780 blogger the delimiter 33,015 says through fountain and he 1618 01:42:15,780 --> 01:42:21,060 says dandy Dave and astute Adam. Get the scoop on what 1619 01:42:21,060 --> 01:42:23,970 technocratic elites are preparing for humanity by 1620 01:42:23,970 --> 01:42:28,530 portioning out an episode of the AI dot cooking podcast. There in 1621 01:42:28,530 --> 01:42:31,830 you will find multiple news items detailing growth in the 1622 01:42:31,830 --> 01:42:35,400 field of Artificial Intelligence along with historical context 1623 01:42:35,490 --> 01:42:39,570 and knowledge all explained by former crypto day trader and 1624 01:42:39,570 --> 01:42:43,800 marijuana advocate glyph stay dangerous yo 1625 01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:48,480 yo I just asked chat GPT which is AI what is the AI duck 1626 01:42:48,480 --> 01:42:52,740 cooking podcast and who hosts it? I'm sorry I'm not aware of 1627 01:42:52,740 --> 01:42:54,360 an AI duck cooking podcast. 1628 01:42:55,050 --> 01:42:56,400 No that's correct. 1629 01:42:56,460 --> 01:42:59,400 It is likely a podcast with that name that does not exist or a 1630 01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:04,200 new podcast my knowledge cut off is 2021 hour okay. Yeah, I think 1631 01:43:04,230 --> 01:43:10,230 it did it started out is I don't know. Oh and listen to this now. 1632 01:43:11,340 --> 01:43:14,700 Many podcasts are available for free through various platforms 1633 01:43:14,700 --> 01:43:19,890 such as Spotify, Apple podcasts and SoundCloud. I say yay, you 1634 01:43:19,890 --> 01:43:25,170 piece of shit. I'm sorry, your my previous answer does not meet 1635 01:43:25,170 --> 01:43:28,830 your expectations as a language. Blah, blah. I'm very sorry. 1636 01:43:30,180 --> 01:43:35,820 No, cooking started in April, April 30 of 2021. So this 1637 01:43:35,820 --> 01:43:42,810 thing's a piece of crap. Yeah, you can't hide behind your date 1638 01:43:42,810 --> 01:43:47,610 cut off. All right, we got some monthlies pod verse $50. Thank 1639 01:43:47,610 --> 01:43:55,080 you pod verse. Basil Philip $25 David Norman $25 A David. Lauren 1640 01:43:55,080 --> 01:44:00,960 ball $24.20 Mitch Downey of pod verse also $10 Christopher 1641 01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:06,330 hyperbaric $10 Soren hugger Mahler. $5 Terry killer $5 1642 01:44:06,510 --> 01:44:12,690 Jeremy Kevin off $10 Chris Cowan $5 Jeffrey Rutherford $5 Paul 1643 01:44:12,690 --> 01:44:13,350 Saltzman 1644 01:44:13,709 --> 01:44:18,089 2020 wants you always has the same I always have the same love 1645 01:44:18,089 --> 01:44:18,719 him for that. 1646 01:44:20,250 --> 01:44:25,590 Damon Kassar, Jack $15 and Derek J Vickery. $21. Great. 1647 01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:30,060 I just, I just entered AI period cooking, which would be the 1648 01:44:30,060 --> 01:44:35,400 correct to AI dot cooking. And here's what Chad GPT said I 1649 01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,070 apologize for my previous confusion. Ai dot cooking is a 1650 01:44:38,070 --> 01:44:41,580 podcast that focuses on the intersection of AI and culinary 1651 01:44:41,580 --> 01:44:47,190 arts. The podcast is hosted by sarin Soylu, who is a researcher 1652 01:44:47,190 --> 01:44:49,350 and developer with a background in artificial intelligence, 1653 01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:51,720 robotics and machine learning. The episodes focused on a wide 1654 01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:54,810 range of topics such as the use of AI and recipe generation, 1655 01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:58,230 kitchen automation and the future of food. The podcast is 1656 01:44:58,230 --> 01:45:01,260 available on various platforms including Apple podcasts Spotify 1657 01:45:01,260 --> 01:45:02,190 and SoundCloud 1658 01:45:03,419 --> 01:45:05,879 This is bullcrap. That's not even true. This podcast doesn't 1659 01:45:05,879 --> 01:45:06,719 exist. 1660 01:45:07,259 --> 01:45:11,159 I don't see AI cooking. I mean, that's supposed to take us to 1661 01:45:11,159 --> 01:45:12,119 goofs thing, right? 1662 01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:18,210 Yeah, yeah. The only a look up on podcast index AI. If I look 1663 01:45:18,210 --> 01:45:24,300 up AI cooking Yeah, I get a I get CSBs podcast and I get some 1664 01:45:24,300 --> 01:45:25,830 French thing that doesn't make any sense. 1665 01:45:26,100 --> 01:45:33,150 That is incorrect. Yeah, it's cares. Is the podcast. Do the 1666 01:45:33,150 --> 01:45:36,150 URL. Give it to it there. Okay. 1667 01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:40,140 Ah yes, this is 1668 01:45:40,380 --> 01:45:43,740 this is this is going to fail so bad. This is gonna I'm closing 1669 01:45:43,740 --> 01:45:47,340 this out. This is annoying me. Make sure I never do that again. 1670 01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:50,940 Okay, please never do that. You'll never make it. Stick in 1671 01:45:50,940 --> 01:45:51,450 your pile. 1672 01:45:51,480 --> 01:45:55,710 Oh, please. I'm so sad. I even started this today. I apologize 1673 01:45:55,710 --> 01:45:58,770 to everybody. I mean, I'm obsessed with how shitty it is. 1674 01:45:58,800 --> 01:45:59,700 I think that's it. 1675 01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:01,470 Yeah, it's like watching a train wreck. 1676 01:46:01,499 --> 01:46:04,139 I want to do I want to discredit Yes. I want to discredit it all 1677 01:46:04,139 --> 01:46:05,459 the time. As much as I can. 1678 01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:07,800 You did scrolling This is the audio equivalent of 1679 01:46:10,740 --> 01:46:14,430 okay. Are you got you got a full weekend of family time? You 1680 01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:15,720 didn't do anything fun? 1681 01:46:16,290 --> 01:46:22,170 Yeah, this. This is the last day of of day job hell week where we 1682 01:46:22,410 --> 01:46:27,810 do big software rollout us phone system upgrade, a sand a NET app 1683 01:46:27,810 --> 01:46:31,380 sand storage firmware upgrade and onboard about 10 employees 1684 01:46:31,380 --> 01:46:31,980 on same way. 1685 01:46:32,010 --> 01:46:36,660 Wow. Did you also do the no tam upgrade? Wednesday? No, Tam, 1686 01:46:36,660 --> 01:46:37,890 yeah. The notice to Airmen. 1687 01:46:40,740 --> 01:46:45,510 What was that? It's not to give me the full and a skinny but 1688 01:46:45,510 --> 01:46:48,930 give me the like, give me this thumbnail sketch what happened? 1689 01:46:49,860 --> 01:46:54,720 You know what? The opening of of yesterday's no agenda is is half 1690 01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,240 an hour. And it's all about that, because you can't really 1691 01:46:57,270 --> 01:47:00,360 do a thumbnail sketch. I'll just listen to there's too much. And 1692 01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:03,630 I'm getting information now from, you know, from people 1693 01:47:03,630 --> 01:47:07,710 really in the know. But let's put it this way. I've been a 1694 01:47:07,710 --> 01:47:10,290 pilot for 16 years, this has never happened before. 1695 01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,770 So it was definitely a software problem. Is that fair to say? 1696 01:47:14,850 --> 01:47:18,300 In in, in so far that the software did not publish the 1697 01:47:18,300 --> 01:47:23,010 information? It was supposed to? Who? That that's not good. That 1698 01:47:23,010 --> 01:47:25,680 doesn't mean that it was a problem. That could have just 1699 01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:28,860 been a stop. Whole bunch of reasons I could have happened. 1700 01:47:30,090 --> 01:47:30,360 Well, 1701 01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:36,120 Alex, because he thinks his government problems. 1702 01:47:36,150 --> 01:47:39,990 There was a lot of fighter jets and air tankers, though at the 1703 01:47:39,990 --> 01:47:42,540 same time. So I don't know. Could just be coincidence, it 1704 01:47:42,540 --> 01:47:43,740 could just be coincidence. 1705 01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:49,170 Oh, I like him. But I like how you said, Oh, this thing went 1706 01:47:49,170 --> 01:47:51,450 horribly wrong. It must have been David did that upgrade? 1707 01:47:52,170 --> 01:47:52,920 Thanks a lot for that. 1708 01:47:52,950 --> 01:47:54,480 I didn't mean it like that. 1709 01:47:55,590 --> 01:47:57,360 No, I forgive. In fact, 1710 01:47:57,390 --> 01:48:01,260 in fact, your stuff is rock solid. The Freedom controller 1711 01:48:01,260 --> 01:48:03,180 has been running for how many years now? Dave, 1712 01:48:03,659 --> 01:48:06,569 I'm afraid I typed the word uptime because I don't even want 1713 01:48:06,569 --> 01:48:07,559 to know it's scary. 1714 01:48:07,590 --> 01:48:11,010 It's so awesome. How long this thing has been. It's been 1715 01:48:11,010 --> 01:48:15,240 running. And I think the last time I had an issue was years 1716 01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:17,130 ago. years ago. 1717 01:48:17,550 --> 01:48:22,230 I'm gonna check the uptime on your server today. I bet you is 1718 01:48:22,230 --> 01:48:23,520 like five years. 1719 01:48:25,980 --> 01:48:28,350 Let me see. Freedom. I thought I had a 1720 01:48:29,670 --> 01:48:34,200 SSH into there. I do. I'm afraid to even SSH into it. 1721 01:48:35,820 --> 01:48:41,550 I have a I have actually I have a think I have an alias too. So 1722 01:48:41,550 --> 01:48:46,680 I don't have to remember all this stuff. It wasn't freedom 1723 01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:50,640 controller. me it was cart. Oh, I know what it was SSH cart. 1724 01:48:50,970 --> 01:48:55,380 There we go. Watch this. Oh, I'm so awesome. Okay, what's uptime? 1725 01:48:56,310 --> 01:49:01,500 I mean uptime. Dude, 479 days. 1726 01:49:02,580 --> 01:49:07,500 That's not as long as I thought it would be. Maybe it's free, 1727 01:49:07,500 --> 01:49:11,700 but it may have been rebooted itself. Because I have not I 1728 01:49:11,700 --> 01:49:14,790 have not manually rebooted that server in about five years. So 1729 01:49:14,790 --> 01:49:18,120 it's a must have happened. Maybe you maybe you got switched to a 1730 01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:22,050 different anything could have happened at OBEDIA vs. EC two 1731 01:49:22,050 --> 01:49:24,420 and maybe they moved you to a new host or something? Because 1732 01:49:24,630 --> 01:49:25,680 anything it wouldn't be. 1733 01:49:26,369 --> 01:49:32,849 Let me see the last time we went in. No, I mean, I think this has 1734 01:49:32,849 --> 01:49:35,549 been up for years. You're right. That can't be right. 1735 01:49:36,390 --> 01:49:39,810 Yeah, I've not made seriously I'm not manually rebooted that 1736 01:49:39,810 --> 01:49:41,400 thing since like, you know, 1737 01:49:41,909 --> 01:49:44,549 why? Why would you? Yeah, it 1738 01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:46,140 doesn't do any it doesn't need it. It just keeps 1739 01:49:46,140 --> 01:49:49,770 on Dave shit works people. That's the bottom line. That's 1740 01:49:49,770 --> 01:49:55,530 right. SAA here You did an upgrade. Okay, I don't know when 1741 01:49:56,490 --> 01:50:02,100 some upgrade Oh, Ah, okay. Meanwhile, thank you all very 1742 01:50:02,100 --> 01:50:04,800 much for boosting the dip recently because that was great 1743 01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:05,400 for us. 1744 01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:09,600 Oh, well you bleeps and bloops going on Yeah, that's 1745 01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:16,140 a Windows Bitcoin now. 19,342 That's like 16,000 a day ago or 1746 01:50:16,140 --> 01:50:17,250 something. It's crazy. 1747 01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:19,920 Yeah, what was your theory on that there's something they've 1748 01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:21,510 found FTX money or something? 1749 01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:29,610 JUST A THEORY $5 billion in FTX assets apparently were found big 1750 01:50:29,610 --> 01:50:35,850 story on CNBC. So this is in the financial National Enquirer and 1751 01:50:35,850 --> 01:50:40,620 it was a combination of cash and liquid assets and then they said 1752 01:50:40,620 --> 01:50:43,290 but we're worried about and they literally said we're we're in 1753 01:50:43,290 --> 01:50:47,280 this article I think I sent it to you we're worried about the 1754 01:50:47,340 --> 01:50:50,610 the assets because the minute we start selling them flooding the 1755 01:50:50,610 --> 01:50:54,930 market it's going to kill that asset. So my thinking yeah, my 1756 01:50:54,930 --> 01:50:58,260 thinking is that some kind of token shit coin or maybe a 1757 01:50:58,260 --> 01:51:01,980 stable coin, which would be a real if it's a stable coin, it's 1758 01:51:01,980 --> 01:51:06,090 a real problem. Because that will affect the bond market 1759 01:51:06,090 --> 01:51:08,940 Believe it or not, so my theory is that people had borrowed 1760 01:51:08,940 --> 01:51:14,100 Bitcoin to buy this shit coin or stable coin whatever it is, and 1761 01:51:14,100 --> 01:51:19,230 when they heard that too, like oh crap, we better cover our 1762 01:51:19,230 --> 01:51:22,380 Bitcoin borrow because you know when you borrow it, you have to 1763 01:51:22,380 --> 01:51:26,130 pay it back and the idea is well bitcoins going down this token 1764 01:51:26,130 --> 01:51:29,280 is going up so I'll borrow the Bitcoin and then a certain point 1765 01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:31,920 I'll have you know, I'll have Bitcoin will be going down 1766 01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:34,800 enough where I buy the actual Bitcoin and give back the bar 1767 01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:37,950 Bitcoin that's a short and the token will have gone up so now 1768 01:51:37,950 --> 01:51:40,560 the inverse is possibly happening so people are freaking 1769 01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:45,360 out going, Oh, I better right away buy some bitcoin to cover 1770 01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:47,400 the Bitcoin that I borrowed 1771 01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:51,450 the day what started out as a hedge turned into a short 1772 01:51:51,450 --> 01:51:51,990 squeeze. 1773 01:51:52,380 --> 01:51:55,560 Yeah, and actually the short squeeze that will really happen 1774 01:51:55,800 --> 01:52:00,990 if they think if this goes to 20,500 Then you'll see something 1775 01:52:00,990 --> 01:52:03,900 massive happen and it's interesting because I think the 1776 01:52:03,900 --> 01:52:07,950 market itself today was predominantly down maybe went up 1777 01:52:08,010 --> 01:52:09,180 while we're doing the show. 1778 01:52:09,810 --> 01:52:13,200 So yeah, that tells you this some technical going on and it's 1779 01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:17,460 not a Yeah, it's not just up you know, up with everything else up 1780 01:52:17,460 --> 01:52:18,330 type of deal. No, 1781 01:52:18,330 --> 01:52:22,200 because I know the Dow Jones was down two or 300 it closed at 93 1782 01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:25,710 Up 93 Nasdaq closed up a little bit yeah, 1783 01:52:25,770 --> 01:52:28,470 I like that theory. That sounds that sounds right. It definitely 1784 01:52:28,470 --> 01:52:29,850 feels like a technical thing. 1785 01:52:29,940 --> 01:52:33,270 Yeah, this is not just everyone going wow, Bitcoin. Oh, I've 1786 01:52:33,270 --> 01:52:36,030 seen the light. No, I don't think I don't think that 1787 01:52:36,030 --> 01:52:40,470 happens. Oh, my God. This is gonna save the world. No, 1788 01:52:40,470 --> 01:52:41,640 probably not probably. 1789 01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:48,240 All right, bro. Brazil didn't Brazil passed some bridges 1790 01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:48,780 nation for 1791 01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:51,120 Brazil have a government at this point? 1792 01:52:51,390 --> 01:52:54,630 Yeah, I have no tail. There's no tail. Yeah, I don't 1793 01:52:54,630 --> 01:52:57,660 know. I've noticed that. I don't I don't think that moves the 1794 01:52:57,660 --> 01:52:59,910 needle at all. I think this is okay. Yeah, you're right. 1795 01:52:59,910 --> 01:53:04,380 Something technical. Something's going on. And well, never a 1796 01:53:04,380 --> 01:53:07,320 boring moment in the Bitcoin game. Never a boring moment. 1797 01:53:07,950 --> 01:53:12,570 Thank you all so much for for boosting for keeping us moving 1798 01:53:12,570 --> 01:53:15,060 ahead for greasing the wheels for your value for value. 1799 01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:18,360 appreciate it so much. Thank you all for being with us here on 1800 01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:21,420 the live show. And if you're listening, post taste on the 1801 01:53:21,450 --> 01:53:24,690 podcast. Hope you enjoyed this board meeting. We short love 1802 01:53:24,690 --> 01:53:26,160 doing it. My brother Dave, thank you. 1803 01:53:27,090 --> 01:53:30,150 Thank you, man. 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