Episode 83: Pushin' Paper

1 00:00:00,719 --> 00:00:06,089 podcasting 2.0 For April 29 2020, to Episode 83. This 2 00:00:06,089 --> 00:00:11,519 week we're pushing paper. That's right. Sometimes you get one of 3 00:00:11,519 --> 00:00:14,249 those admin weeks. Don't worry, we'll bore you with that. 4 00:00:14,279 --> 00:00:18,329 Welcome to podcasting. 2.0 The official board meeting of 5 00:00:18,329 --> 00:00:20,849 podcasting 2.0 we discuss everything happening with the 6 00:00:20,849 --> 00:00:24,959 podcasting namespace podcast. index.org And of course, there's 7 00:00:24,959 --> 00:00:28,349 a lot going on to podcast index dot social. I'm Adam curry here 8 00:00:28,349 --> 00:00:31,229 in the heart of the Texas Hill Country and in Alabama. He's a 9 00:00:31,229 --> 00:00:34,469 guy with a motorcycle for sale on Ebay, my friend on the other 10 00:00:34,469 --> 00:00:37,739 end, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Dave Jones. 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,240 It's a parks bike. 12 00:00:40,770 --> 00:00:43,710 Six fixer upper, mild fixer 13 00:00:43,710 --> 00:00:49,350 upper, the entire front end, the front half. If you have a front 14 00:00:49,350 --> 00:00:51,900 half, I have a backcast Oh my 15 00:00:51,900 --> 00:00:54,960 goodness. Dave. How is Grant doing? How's it easy? Okay. 16 00:00:56,010 --> 00:01:00,540 Yeah, he got he's doing good. No. Pain, pain management 17 00:01:00,540 --> 00:01:03,420 completely under control. He's good. He's only on Tylenol. 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,940 Oh, that's very, very quick, actually. 19 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,840 Yeah, that the dogs were pretty, pretty pleased about that. 20 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,560 Because they like, you know, I was terrified. Yeah, I watched 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:13,710 you 22 00:01:13,710 --> 00:01:17,760 were thinking of opioids. Yeah. As you watch dope sick. You like 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,620 holy crap. Yeah. Very good. 24 00:01:19,860 --> 00:01:23,550 Yeah, you watch dope sick, and then you go to the hospital. And 25 00:01:23,790 --> 00:01:28,170 everybody at the hospital gives you the on a one to 10 Tell me 26 00:01:28,170 --> 00:01:29,250 what your pain is. And I'm like, 27 00:01:30,210 --> 00:01:32,910 right, so they have the little chart with the smiley faces in 28 00:01:32,910 --> 00:01:35,490 there. Oh, man. Isn't that sick? 29 00:01:35,850 --> 00:01:40,650 It is. It is. I mean, like, once you watch that show you it makes 30 00:01:40,650 --> 00:01:42,270 you so paranoid. Yeah. 31 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,900 But you're a great dad. So he's safe. 32 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,490 Yeah, even in his worst pain. I just gave him Tylenol. No, I 33 00:01:50,490 --> 00:01:50,820 didn't do 34 00:01:51,270 --> 00:01:58,470 and it took here. Come on, let's be honest about that. Boy, yeah. 35 00:01:59,940 --> 00:02:03,270 You are listening, by the way to two very tired men right now in 36 00:02:03,270 --> 00:02:09,150 case you're just tuning into podcasting. 2.0 Episode 83. Is 37 00:02:09,900 --> 00:02:12,150 Well, I mean, you're tired man. Because you've been you know, 38 00:02:12,180 --> 00:02:15,030 just been through a lot in the past two weeks with your with 39 00:02:15,030 --> 00:02:19,290 your kids accident. And it was the busiest time to time. We all 40 00:02:19,290 --> 00:02:22,170 know leave Dave alone is when his kid gets an accident, which 41 00:02:22,170 --> 00:02:28,320 of course will never be forgiven. No, ever, ever AM. And 42 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,920 then I record. Sorry. So on your permanent record, permanent 43 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:36,780 record, yes. And I was often in New York for my dad's internment 44 00:02:36,780 --> 00:02:41,850 and a family reunion. And now, it's really really fun. But um, 45 00:02:41,850 --> 00:02:45,000 you know, a lot of energy just being in New York by itself. 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:45,210 Like, 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:51,240 ah, so tell me tell me about New York. I mean, so it was. I've 48 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,770 never been really? Yeah, I've never been to New York been at 49 00:02:55,770 --> 00:03:00,300 the state at all. So do you. When was the last time you had 50 00:03:00,300 --> 00:03:00,990 been to armant 51 00:03:02,070 --> 00:03:07,110 the last time I was in Armonk, wow. A long time ago? Probably a 52 00:03:07,110 --> 00:03:11,700 good eight years ago. And Armand is, you know, north of New York 53 00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:15,600 City. It's kind of Westchester, Connecticut, right. You could 54 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,120 probably you in fact, you drive two minutes, you're in 55 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:23,370 Connecticut. Okay. And that's where the homestead is that my 56 00:03:23,370 --> 00:03:27,840 family has lived in since 1929. And my uncle still lives there. 57 00:03:27,900 --> 00:03:33,480 His his wife passed away about six, seven weeks ago. The middle 58 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,240 Patton cemetery is where everyone's buried. You know, 59 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,320 it's it's a real thing in the curry clan. Sorry, wing. Yeah. 60 00:03:40,950 --> 00:03:45,060 Yes, exactly. Exactly. And that was great. Because my cousins 61 00:03:45,060 --> 00:03:48,300 came in and of course, my sisters came in from Holland 62 00:03:48,300 --> 00:03:51,150 from Italy. Christina came in from Holland. She actually came 63 00:03:51,150 --> 00:03:54,510 back with us to Texas. She's here until Monday, just to Yeah. 64 00:03:54,510 --> 00:03:56,670 Oh, yeah. Because she hadn't been out here. And I haven't 65 00:03:56,670 --> 00:04:00,690 seen her for 10 months since her birthday. So it's, yeah, it's 66 00:04:00,690 --> 00:04:02,430 the last time she was in the States. Oh, 67 00:04:03,180 --> 00:04:09,930 it was, huh. I would say good four years ago. And her 68 00:04:09,930 --> 00:04:13,440 boyfriend could not come for this server. Well, I would say 69 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,700 almost fiance, because, you know, he got the first. The 70 00:04:17,700 --> 00:04:21,000 first vaccination starts to develop myocarditis. He's like, 71 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,420 No, I'm gonna do that. Oh, yeah, he stopped right away. And of 72 00:04:24,420 --> 00:04:24,660 course, 73 00:04:24,660 --> 00:04:27,510 is when he falls into the category of fucky 74 00:04:28,050 --> 00:04:31,200 fucky fucky. Very much. You're not allowed in the country. 75 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,210 That's that's the category he fits into. Yeah. So anyway, so 76 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,880 that, you know, it's just been busy. And then coming back in, 77 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:44,370 you know, we're, we're, we've had some administrative changes. 78 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,580 So for a whole bunch of reasons that are boring. I'm opening 79 00:04:47,850 --> 00:04:52,140 like a bank account here in Texas. moving some of the LLC 80 00:04:52,140 --> 00:04:56,490 stuff over here, and I have no business doing this. 81 00:04:59,070 --> 00:05:02,610 You have as much Business opening bank accounts and do an 82 00:05:02,610 --> 00:05:08,100 LLC stuff as I do writing Terms of Service. Privacy Policy. 83 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:13,440 Exactly. But it I love it because I know why we're doing 84 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,670 it. It's all good. But it's actually I have someone lined up 85 00:05:17,670 --> 00:05:21,750 who wants to help us, Danny, who's the no agenda producer. 86 00:05:21,990 --> 00:05:25,320 And, you know, I had a chat with him. We had some email, we 87 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,700 talked on the phone. And, you know, he's, he's, I think he's, 88 00:05:29,790 --> 00:05:33,660 I gave him a podcast index on social invite. And he's 89 00:05:33,750 --> 00:05:37,470 committed to definitely helping us out, you know, through this 90 00:05:37,470 --> 00:05:41,460 transition, get everything set up. But I've just like, you 91 00:05:41,460 --> 00:05:43,590 know, I would this was already underway, and I thought it was 92 00:05:43,590 --> 00:05:46,020 already done. But now I need a certificate from the state of 93 00:05:46,020 --> 00:05:50,040 Texas. And it's all this, all this stuff. But anyway, I'm 94 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,920 really excited about Danny coming to help us win. I think 95 00:05:52,920 --> 00:06:00,210 that his nickname will be debit card. Danny, was my was my. Now, 96 00:06:00,420 --> 00:06:03,540 you indeed, you know, since I got back, it's like, oh, here's 97 00:06:03,540 --> 00:06:06,960 some terms of service and like to do to have a lawyer look at 98 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,600 it. You're like, not couldn't look at it. That's he's a 99 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,050 lawyer. 100 00:06:12,269 --> 00:06:13,379 He's the podcast logging 101 00:06:13,829 --> 00:06:16,559 lawyers. That sounds good to me. Well, 102 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,840 it said that, you know, I knew, here's, here's the way this 103 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:23,580 thinking goes. This was just me cutting it off, like, go ahead 104 00:06:23,580 --> 00:06:27,510 and get into the meat of it before it started. Right. So 105 00:06:27,780 --> 00:06:31,500 what I did was, I thought, Okay, let's see, if we write a privacy 106 00:06:31,500 --> 00:06:36,420 policy, and then put it out there. Cridland is immediately 107 00:06:36,420 --> 00:06:39,270 going to look at it and pick it apart. So I'm gonna send it to 108 00:06:39,270 --> 00:06:43,200 him ahead of time. Yes. And saving the Safe, safe one step. 109 00:06:43,830 --> 00:06:44,550 Great idea. 110 00:06:44,579 --> 00:06:47,759 I'm all for perfect, perfect, and he won't criticize his own 111 00:06:47,759 --> 00:06:50,249 work. So if he rewrote half of it, I'm like, Hey, we're good 112 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,579 right now, but I think it turned out great. I appreciate what he 113 00:06:53,579 --> 00:06:56,849 did. Because he, he expanded, he expanded it to cover some things 114 00:06:56,849 --> 00:07:00,509 that I had not thought of, and then did, like, made it made it 115 00:07:00,509 --> 00:07:05,249 better for the EU ish, right. And all that, I think, I think 116 00:07:05,249 --> 00:07:05,879 we're in good shape. 117 00:07:05,910 --> 00:07:13,020 Excellent, by the way. So I spent a lot of time getting 118 00:07:13,020 --> 00:07:16,470 everything set up for this show. So we're live, I did the 119 00:07:16,470 --> 00:07:22,860 pending, the pending tag in vice versa, sovereign feeds is kick 120 00:07:22,860 --> 00:07:26,940 ass. The stuff that Steven B is doing improving this interface 121 00:07:26,940 --> 00:07:30,360 is really I mean, he's just doing iteration through 122 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,970 iteration and making the experience better smarter. And 123 00:07:32,970 --> 00:07:36,510 it's really good because I am that guy. Cool. screw up 124 00:07:36,510 --> 00:07:41,790 everything. So I you know, I did the pending tag for our for our 125 00:07:41,790 --> 00:07:46,530 live item tags show that we're live. And so I know I got the 126 00:07:46,530 --> 00:07:49,380 time, right? I change the episode numbers or change the 127 00:07:49,380 --> 00:07:53,490 date, and I publish it and then of course, like, oh, it's still 128 00:07:53,490 --> 00:07:56,730 pending or no, it's still it's ended. You didn't hit pending. 129 00:07:56,730 --> 00:08:01,980 Okay, hit pending, to go through it again. Upload the feed. Okay, 130 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:05,520 hit the pod ping. We're good. Oh, it's the wrong date. It's 131 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:11,040 like March 20. Okay. Set it for today. Get it all set. I got the 132 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,870 PM. So Okay, finally, it's all good to go. We're good. But it's 133 00:08:15,870 --> 00:08:19,800 cool because now you can see how an idiot can still mess up the 134 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:24,390 best interface or the or you know, user interface experience. 135 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,890 So I'm just really making sure the Steven knows everything I do 136 00:08:28,950 --> 00:08:33,210 wrong because you have to stop. I mean, I'm a danger to myself. 137 00:08:33,750 --> 00:08:37,560 It's so easy. It's so easy to mess it up. It really is. And 138 00:08:37,560 --> 00:08:42,810 then I also added the boost bot to the live value block. Have 139 00:08:42,810 --> 00:08:44,010 you followed the boost bot? 140 00:08:44,730 --> 00:08:46,560 I had no idea what the boost but even then I 141 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,139 didn't know what it was either. Yeah, so I see this on the on 142 00:08:49,139 --> 00:08:54,149 the mastodon. You add the boost bot to it with 1% split to your 143 00:08:54,179 --> 00:09:01,619 live item tag. Your lot your live item. Value block. And in 144 00:09:01,619 --> 00:09:08,939 anything over 100 sets. It I think it I think it shows up in 145 00:09:08,939 --> 00:09:11,519 a chat room. I don't know if it shows up in our chat room. But 146 00:09:11,519 --> 00:09:15,029 it also shoots it out on mastodon. 147 00:09:16,350 --> 00:09:19,620 Yes. It's all I can go do it now. 148 00:09:19,740 --> 00:09:23,070 Yeah, it shouldn't be it should be live. I mean as long I mean, 149 00:09:23,070 --> 00:09:27,870 I pause here so as you say d3 Live. Now do you see the boost 150 00:09:27,870 --> 00:09:30,060 bot in the value block? Can you see it? What are you using cast 151 00:09:30,060 --> 00:09:30,510 thematic? 152 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,200 No, Nanda now I'm using curator Castro. 153 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,410 So should be in there. 154 00:09:38,430 --> 00:09:41,610 If I click on 83 Live, oh, if I hit play on this, I'm going to 155 00:09:41,610 --> 00:09:45,630 like feedback myself. That's not gonna. Not gonna be good. Do it? 156 00:09:45,900 --> 00:09:47,550 Do it. I'm gonna do it. Do it. 157 00:09:47,580 --> 00:09:48,930 Do it. Do it. 158 00:09:49,470 --> 00:09:53,190 Boost one. Do I have 1000 SATs in my career? I guess. Surely I 159 00:09:53,190 --> 00:09:57,030 do. Oh, I'm not logged in. I'm going to do this. I'm going to 160 00:09:57,030 --> 00:10:00,720 do this at some point during the show. Okay, so this So this is 161 00:10:00,810 --> 00:10:04,230 just boost the show and it comes back. 162 00:10:04,650 --> 00:10:07,800 Yeah, it goes live into a chat room not sure where it's in the 163 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,080 chat room made Minebea I don't know what Chat Room button 164 00:10:11,850 --> 00:10:13,770 because there's new I'm just like, I'd read through the 165 00:10:13,770 --> 00:10:16,890 documentation like Okay, I just put this in and we'll see where 166 00:10:16,890 --> 00:10:19,890 it goes. Apparently it's also boosting on Mastodon so if 167 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,040 people are in the now people are in the podcasting 2.0 Chat. 168 00:10:24,420 --> 00:10:27,870 Oh, I see it. I see it on bass. Yeah, see it on the mastodon? Is 169 00:10:27,870 --> 00:10:30,960 that now is that coming from? No agenda social. 170 00:10:31,349 --> 00:10:37,109 Let me see. Oh, wait, there you go. Servo booster 2033 Looks 171 00:10:37,109 --> 00:10:44,609 like it has two links, podcasts index.org. And that's the shores 172 00:10:44,609 --> 00:10:49,889 feed and it links links to the Yeah. Well, that's interesting 173 00:10:49,919 --> 00:10:53,189 linking to the RSS feed and that's from boost CLI. Okay, 174 00:10:53,580 --> 00:10:58,470 and it says and there's another one through says metus boosted 175 00:10:58,470 --> 00:11:03,660 with 1000s SASL via curio caster second this did it wow 176 00:11:03,690 --> 00:11:06,420 this is running with scissors to the extreme this is running with 177 00:11:06,420 --> 00:11:11,400 garden shears right now. I love it this is so cool. 178 00:11:13,980 --> 00:11:18,900 Very good wow okay, so I know 179 00:11:18,930 --> 00:11:23,940 I gotta Wow out of Dave everybody wow, 180 00:11:24,329 --> 00:11:26,639 I knew that these things were under development all these 181 00:11:26,639 --> 00:11:29,189 different connectors for everything but I haven't seen 182 00:11:29,699 --> 00:11:32,129 them necessarily in real the last time I saw one little 183 00:11:32,129 --> 00:11:36,689 running live was on the live that we did with Sir Spencer. 184 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,080 Oh no, this is ongoing effort. These people out of control. 185 00:11:40,380 --> 00:11:45,120 They are I'm glad I found it. You know I saw Steven B's like 186 00:11:45,150 --> 00:11:49,080 oh a boost bodice cooling boost bot What's this? What does this 187 00:11:49,110 --> 00:11:50,490 use but you speak of 188 00:11:50,580 --> 00:11:53,070 he say boost but you're gonna get some you're gonna get some 189 00:11:53,070 --> 00:11:54,540 attention. Yeah, of course. It was like 190 00:11:54,570 --> 00:11:57,480 the only boost bot I know is boost boost. That's my boost 191 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,470 bot. That's the only one 192 00:11:59,370 --> 00:12:03,120 I want to do it now. They're gonna do it for me. Well, this 193 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,620 is only the live item though, right? 194 00:12:05,220 --> 00:12:08,580 Yeah, but if you hit it Yeah, yeah. So it has to be curio 195 00:12:08,580 --> 00:12:10,470 caster. I think you're right. Yeah, it's 196 00:12:10,470 --> 00:12:12,150 not gonna show up and no, it won't show up. 197 00:12:12,420 --> 00:12:16,140 So where is everybody? Where's everybody and getting in on the 198 00:12:16,140 --> 00:12:20,820 fun? Hello, Roy corduroy. Hello, Roy. What are you doing Roy? Get 199 00:12:20,820 --> 00:12:24,480 on this live item stuff Roy he was supposed to have a dedicated 200 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:25,470 person who was getting 201 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:30,150 who who does what does the most so far is caught in a loop. I 202 00:12:30,150 --> 00:12:34,890 was trying to do this for so what what other? What other app 203 00:12:35,310 --> 00:12:45,480 in your opinion is the most poised or primed for alive 204 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,410 support? 205 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:49,319 Well, it would be very disappointing if a fountain 206 00:12:49,319 --> 00:12:53,039 didn't hop on the ship right away. I mean, these those guys 207 00:12:53,039 --> 00:12:57,029 are way ahead of stuff right now. And Oscar's out of control 208 00:12:57,239 --> 00:13:02,699 they have the hero I got the live with the beat being able to 209 00:13:02,789 --> 00:13:07,199 I guess easily add your listeners blocks to the value 210 00:13:07,739 --> 00:13:11,429 add everyone gets a wallet. Like oh my god, can we get to no 211 00:13:11,429 --> 00:13:14,039 agenda artists to get one of these so I can just add them per 212 00:13:14,039 --> 00:13:16,439 episode. You know, thanks for doing the art. Here's here's 213 00:13:16,439 --> 00:13:18,359 some stats for here's just split. 214 00:13:19,020 --> 00:13:22,140 So I want to know how this works. So that means anybody can 215 00:13:22,140 --> 00:13:26,370 just show show up and enable their walk. Oh, okay. So as I 216 00:13:26,370 --> 00:13:30,390 see what happened. So as long as you have a fountain account, you 217 00:13:30,390 --> 00:13:31,020 have a wallet. 218 00:13:31,980 --> 00:13:35,040 And the Yes, exact hatching Exactly, exactly. 219 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,490 And so what I'm thinking is it's probably it because it seems to 220 00:13:38,490 --> 00:13:44,880 be using the lightning address theme, you know, where you can 221 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,760 attach like an email address looking thing to a lightning 222 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,690 address? Oh, yeah, 223 00:13:48,689 --> 00:13:50,909 I don't know about I haven't I haven't actually looked at it. I 224 00:13:50,909 --> 00:13:59,009 just saw the announcement and I believe it right away yeah, yes. 225 00:13:59,489 --> 00:14:04,739 I got a busy life. Dave. I have things to do here. Well, let me 226 00:14:05,489 --> 00:14:06,929 just presumed it worked. 227 00:14:08,610 --> 00:14:11,190 I'm sure you're right. I want to look at this though. I don't 228 00:14:11,190 --> 00:14:13,620 know I'm gonna get to Kevin Brooks show Oh, 229 00:14:13,980 --> 00:14:19,800 yeah. Kiss Oh, show not only is so if you're not on if you're 230 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,490 not hip to sovereign feed sovereign feeds.com This is 231 00:14:23,490 --> 00:14:25,890 really where you get to play around and you get to mess with 232 00:14:25,950 --> 00:14:28,890 I mean, it's so cool to create the feed with all these 233 00:14:28,890 --> 00:14:32,520 different features. And I'm even at the point where we change the 234 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,300 metadata stuff that no one ever does if you're podcasting like 235 00:14:36,300 --> 00:14:39,900 that stuff is just stuck in time forever. Thank well was here 236 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:43,650 anyway, let me just give it a quick review. So nice. And also, 237 00:14:43,650 --> 00:14:47,880 you know, what's also David normal hypercare tree all of a 238 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:52,950 sudden, David Norman. Do he has like eight kids comes back. And 239 00:14:52,950 --> 00:14:55,860 then boom, there's a new version of hyper Kassar? 240 00:14:56,429 --> 00:15:01,049 Yeah, hyper Kitchen Studio 2.0. Yeah, nice. It looks like an 241 00:15:01,049 --> 00:15:07,889 eight bit Marvel. Yeah, that looks so do you said drag has 242 00:15:07,889 --> 00:15:13,079 been testing it? Yeah. What is the what is the killer feature 243 00:15:13,079 --> 00:15:15,029 of hyper captured Studio 2.0? 244 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,440 Dave, I have no idea drag is testing it. I'm not gonna test 245 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,290 that drag is our expert. I have no idea. 246 00:15:22,830 --> 00:15:25,680 All I do is I don't have metal in his business. 247 00:15:26,070 --> 00:15:31,560 No way. I but I don't have I mean, I still log into HyperCard 248 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,600 your studio to set up the first kind of fake chapter. But it's 249 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,080 not 2.0. So I'm not in the club. I have not been given access to 250 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:45,390 2.0. I am extremely curious about the what does he call it 251 00:15:45,390 --> 00:15:49,890 like magic chapters or auto chapters? Yes, he has some kind 252 00:15:49,890 --> 00:15:52,890 of AI stuff. And I know dreadd has been experimenting with that 253 00:15:52,890 --> 00:15:57,600 as well. This isn't these are incredible development. We need 254 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,800 a PR team. 255 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,540 Oh, I thought we already had one. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Daniel J. 256 00:16:03,540 --> 00:16:04,560 Lewis. I thought that was 257 00:16:07,290 --> 00:16:10,860 Daniel J. Lewis. Love that guy. Alright, let me see. 258 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:18,030 So here it is. Is most awesome underneath stuff license? Some 259 00:16:18,030 --> 00:16:22,440 platform changes like flat. No. Jas, manual deployments. Okay, 260 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:28,500 so he's doing some some sort of underneath the hood things. He 261 00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:31,320 says I've also added a player in the chapter editor that will 262 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,470 autofill the time marker as Adam suggested long ago. 263 00:16:35,610 --> 00:16:37,950 I'm glad I suggested that. I don't know what that means. 264 00:16:38,130 --> 00:16:40,950 You don't remember what you suggested. But you did have a 265 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,960 time marker? Uh, huh. Says 266 00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:49,200 I really don't remember. 267 00:16:49,620 --> 00:16:51,330 Yeah, there's a player. I'm looking at the screenshot. 268 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,540 There's a player in the chapter editor. Hmm. 269 00:16:55,290 --> 00:16:59,850 Right. I Yeah. Okay, both just UI stuff. But if drab is working 270 00:16:59,850 --> 00:17:02,310 with it, dribs gonna get it right. I'm not worried about it 271 00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:02,730 at all. 272 00:17:03,510 --> 00:17:07,650 And he said, I mentioned to him that was going to support the 273 00:17:07,650 --> 00:17:11,340 location functionality. So you put locations into chapters? And 274 00:17:11,340 --> 00:17:16,140 he said, Yes. To this on his tool, it to my knowledge will be 275 00:17:16,140 --> 00:17:20,850 the first the first tool that exists that will 276 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,190 take advantage of location location. Yeah. 277 00:17:24,599 --> 00:17:26,489 Because we talked about that for a long time where you could do 278 00:17:26,489 --> 00:17:31,109 like a, you know, maybe you're doing a podcast about a 279 00:17:31,139 --> 00:17:34,259 particular like a war or something and you want to give 280 00:17:34,830 --> 00:17:39,540 pick a war, any war, there's plenty. Or you want 281 00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:44,550 and, you know, you want to pinpoint this episode, we're 282 00:17:44,550 --> 00:17:48,540 excuse me this, this part of the episode from minute to minute 283 00:17:48,540 --> 00:17:51,750 20. You were talking about Armani. Armani. Yeah. Maha 284 00:17:51,750 --> 00:17:55,470 Marma. And then the next. You know, few minutes you're talking 285 00:17:55,470 --> 00:17:56,910 about? New Jersey? 286 00:17:57,389 --> 00:18:01,709 Exactly. That's the way that's really the way it should be 287 00:18:01,709 --> 00:18:06,329 used. That's fantastic. Again, those maps out FM guys, they're 288 00:18:06,329 --> 00:18:09,329 circling around when we give no love, because I don't understand 289 00:18:09,329 --> 00:18:09,929 any of it. 290 00:18:10,980 --> 00:18:14,280 Well, am I wrong? cred? Listen, he was on their board or 291 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,300 something. What? 292 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,260 Yeah. Oh, man. Guys everywhere. 293 00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:23,700 Unless I'm nuts. I mean, I think that's true. So yeah, they 294 00:18:23,700 --> 00:18:25,410 shouldn't be conditioned. Bring them into the fold 295 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,800 here. Because the guy keeps popping up saying, hey, here I 296 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:35,430 am. Interesting. You think James would do that? Let me see. Well, 297 00:18:35,460 --> 00:18:38,250 that's just so you know, what really is there's too much going 298 00:18:38,250 --> 00:18:41,970 on, and can't keep up with it. And you. You basically been 299 00:18:41,970 --> 00:18:46,200 spending the week catching up, right? Yeah, right. We're 300 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,330 excited to introduce those tickets. We're excited to 301 00:18:48,330 --> 00:18:51,390 introduce to industry leaders as our new advisors, James 302 00:18:51,390 --> 00:18:55,980 Kirtland, editor of the Daily pod news and EVO Tara, co author 303 00:18:55,980 --> 00:18:57,510 of podcasting for dummies. 304 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,390 They're both pals of the pod. Yeah, 305 00:19:00,419 --> 00:19:04,709 they will tell us what to do powers of the pod. Tell us what 306 00:19:04,709 --> 00:19:07,739 to advise advise someone on something perfect. 307 00:19:08,250 --> 00:19:10,320 We're at your disposal. 308 00:19:10,590 --> 00:19:12,900 All right. I'm sorry. I interrupted you. You catching up 309 00:19:12,900 --> 00:19:13,950 on everything. 310 00:19:14,460 --> 00:19:17,310 Did you interrupt me? Oh, yeah, I guess you do. Well, yeah. 311 00:19:17,310 --> 00:19:19,470 Yeah, just catching up on emails. I had like, you know, 312 00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:24,240 100 Something emails to catch up on. And it I think I'm getting 313 00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:28,050 I'm getting close. But I had a couple of through had a lot of 314 00:19:28,050 --> 00:19:31,590 like, just me know, a my feeds messed up, hey, this, right, 315 00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:33,330 good, hey, blah, blah, blah, just a bunch of that kind of 316 00:19:33,330 --> 00:19:41,070 jazz. But then there was a few things. I talked to a hosting 317 00:19:41,070 --> 00:19:45,060 company this week about potentially doing some 318 00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:49,560 integration with us and do an auto submit. It was interesting 319 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,940 conversation because we were talking about like terms of 320 00:19:53,940 --> 00:19:56,760 service that that's what got me on the terms of service privacy 321 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:04,470 policy. Okay, and for the record If are all that stuff, Terms of 322 00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:09,150 Service privacy policy, and everything is on GitHub. Now, 323 00:20:09,150 --> 00:20:13,500 there's a repo called legal UI. So if you go to the 324 00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:18,780 github.com/pockets, index Dash org, and go to legal, there's 325 00:20:18,780 --> 00:20:21,630 our Privacy Policy and Terms of Service, I'm going to put it 326 00:20:21,870 --> 00:20:25,890 there and just link to the stuff there. From our website, it's 327 00:20:25,890 --> 00:20:28,860 easier to edit. On so 328 00:20:29,580 --> 00:20:32,040 our terms of service may change from time to time, 329 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,450 it will, it may, and we will alert you if 330 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,660 we want to alert you, we don't have to alert you. 331 00:20:40,350 --> 00:20:43,170 My goal is to never email anybody ever for any reason. 332 00:20:43,530 --> 00:20:48,210 So a new podcast host that would be auto submitting, when that 333 00:20:48,210 --> 00:20:49,200 just be a pod ping. 334 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,790 We'll see. Okay, so that's what I was gonna say thank you. Z, is 335 00:20:53,790 --> 00:20:56,460 we talked about it for a little while, and they were, they were 336 00:20:56,460 --> 00:20:59,700 telling me well, you know, we were looking at the terms and, 337 00:21:00,180 --> 00:21:04,560 you know, if we're, if you just find our feeds and suck a man, 338 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,320 you know, that's, that's fine. That's one thing. But if we 339 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,260 actively push to you, we need to review your terms and make sure 340 00:21:10,260 --> 00:21:14,670 that everything's kosher with legal and yeah, and, you know, 341 00:21:14,670 --> 00:21:16,500 it's like, Okay, it's good. I mean, it's fine. Makes sense. 342 00:21:16,530 --> 00:21:16,980 And 343 00:21:18,450 --> 00:21:22,110 we, we, we retain James Cridland, so we're fine. No 344 00:21:22,110 --> 00:21:22,620 problem. 345 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:28,650 Yes, that's right. on retainer, and the so then a little bit 346 00:21:28,650 --> 00:21:31,680 through, I was like, Well, you know, I mean, really, an easier 347 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,150 thing to do is just send a pod pain. If you do that every time, 348 00:21:36,150 --> 00:21:41,280 then we we get every feed, it's just like an auto submit. And 349 00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:43,290 everybody else gets it, too. 350 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:48,360 Yeah, everybody wins. Yeah. And they say yes. 351 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,720 They said, We're gonna push for that. So. Uh huh. 352 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,550 We have higher ups to convince. 353 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,290 I think so more legal? I don't know. I don't know how that 354 00:22:01,290 --> 00:22:04,350 stuff works. I was there's always higher ups to convince 355 00:22:04,530 --> 00:22:05,850 unless you're us, and there's only two of 356 00:22:06,180 --> 00:22:09,450 us, right? We are the highest, the bucks, the buck stops here. 357 00:22:09,930 --> 00:22:15,900 Yeah. So I mean, in a regular business that has meetings, I'm 358 00:22:15,900 --> 00:22:19,560 assuming there's higher ups. But it's cool, though, because that 359 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,310 worked out perfectly like because we were thinking, you've 360 00:22:23,310 --> 00:22:25,650 been thinking the whole time. Okay, well, this kills two birds 361 00:22:25,650 --> 00:22:28,770 with one stone. And then you really don't have to worry about 362 00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:30,750 Terms of Service, right? 363 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,540 You're just telling the world hey, we're out here and 364 00:22:33,540 --> 00:22:35,970 everybody else can pick it up. And that's exactly the same 365 00:22:35,970 --> 00:22:40,980 thing, as you know, as someone else ingesting I agree. 366 00:22:41,850 --> 00:22:45,000 Yeah. I mean, like, you're just throwing it out there. And then 367 00:22:45,030 --> 00:22:49,920 whoever, it's like, the, you know, it's like, well, you know, 368 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,880 I'm not giving this to you. But I'm just gonna leave it right 369 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,220 here on the coffee table. And if you happen to find if 370 00:22:56,220 --> 00:22:58,920 you see it by any chance, just pick it up, you know, yeah, 371 00:22:58,950 --> 00:23:00,240 ingest that. It's good. 372 00:23:01,169 --> 00:23:03,989 Excellent. So, yeah. Anyway, that's, that's, that was a good 373 00:23:03,989 --> 00:23:10,499 conversation. And that's, I'm going to get another couple of 374 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:14,129 people to talk to you this next week as well on similar things. 375 00:23:14,129 --> 00:23:18,329 So there's a lot of, it's funny, it's funny how this thing goes 376 00:23:18,329 --> 00:23:22,979 through phases where you have like, a lot of DEV work. And 377 00:23:22,979 --> 00:23:26,039 then for a little while, you have a bunch of admin stuff. And 378 00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:28,319 then for a little while, you have a bunch of like, talking to 379 00:23:28,319 --> 00:23:30,779 people and then it goes back to the desk. It goes through these 380 00:23:30,779 --> 00:23:36,149 like cycles. Sure, sure. I think I think you dev a lot and you 381 00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:39,419 code a lot and all that kind of stuff. pleat. If I ever say dev 382 00:23:39,419 --> 00:23:40,709 as a verb began, please yeah, but 383 00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:46,710 I think I was Devon the other day, you know, thinking of you. 384 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,680 Like, Oh, I love definitely think of Dave 385 00:23:50,669 --> 00:23:55,679 That's one step away from calling a calling your position 386 00:23:55,679 --> 00:23:57,419 that you're recruiting for a ninja. 387 00:23:58,740 --> 00:24:01,260 Right big superstar. Superstar. 388 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,440 Super. Customer Support. Sherpa. 389 00:24:04,530 --> 00:24:08,700 Oh, goodness. Well, I do like customer support. No Customer 390 00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:13,350 Success representative. Doesn't bus that bus? I love that. 391 00:24:13,620 --> 00:24:20,700 Customer Success consultant. How're you doing? It is very 392 00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:21,030 good. 393 00:24:21,630 --> 00:24:24,810 Yeah, so what we get there? I mean, there's a bunch of yes 394 00:24:24,810 --> 00:24:28,740 budget, that kind of stuff going on bunch of just just talking in 395 00:24:28,770 --> 00:24:29,220 typing, 396 00:24:29,580 --> 00:24:34,170 which is good. And we you know, there's a dizzy conversation 397 00:24:34,170 --> 00:24:37,740 which, you know, we started a few episodes ago, which kind of 398 00:24:37,770 --> 00:24:40,260 of course Daniel J. Lewis brought it back in typical 399 00:24:40,260 --> 00:24:44,490 fashion. Hey, are we calling this thing podcast standard? 400 00:24:44,490 --> 00:24:49,560 Now? What is that all about? And this sparked off a great 401 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,500 conversation which I gladly remove myself from just 402 00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:56,490 watching. Of course, just watching this like, Okay, 403 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,480 where's this going? And it's kind of interesting, because I I 404 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,340 really thought that kind of separating the podcast namespace 405 00:25:05,340 --> 00:25:09,600 and giving it its own name is what was desired. 406 00:25:11,340 --> 00:25:13,620 But not only not know now, 407 00:25:14,550 --> 00:25:17,640 podcasting 2.0 seems to be a very important brand to 408 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:23,250 everybody. Or maybe maybe I'm, maybe I'm not reading it right. 409 00:25:23,250 --> 00:25:28,140 But it's been really interesting to see this and, and to a 410 00:25:28,140 --> 00:25:31,050 certain degree, I'm also looking at this, like, hey, was there 411 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,010 like 10 years of this, that people just talking about this 412 00:25:35,010 --> 00:25:37,440 stuff? Because, you know, meanwhile, there's an actual 413 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,620 namespace and everything's ready to go, how do we get it out to 414 00:25:40,620 --> 00:25:44,490 people? You know, what is the priority? Isn't it to get as 415 00:25:44,490 --> 00:25:48,030 many posts as possible to at least adopt one feature? Because 416 00:25:48,030 --> 00:25:51,120 once they include the namespace, then, you know, then it's, 417 00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:55,200 you've already gotten over such a big hump. Now, 418 00:25:56,910 --> 00:26:02,040 you know, this goes back to the old to sort of my old adage, 419 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,480 when people start arguing about thing about things. It's time to 420 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:13,320 stop talking and just go build something. Yeah. And I think it 421 00:26:13,620 --> 00:26:17,760 is, I was looking earlier, I was actually grabbing a copy. And 422 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:24,630 daughter is doing a report for school on Ukraine. And I was 423 00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:32,310 grabbing a copy of calls out the causality episode on Chernobyl 424 00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:37,350 for her. Uh huh. And I'm looking at, I'm looking at looking at 425 00:26:37,710 --> 00:26:42,870 John 2g site. And he has up there this big badge on his 426 00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:47,340 website, this says, podcast into one a certified Oh, nice, and 427 00:26:47,340 --> 00:26:51,660 it's beautiful. And I thought, you know, maybe we're, maybe we 428 00:26:51,660 --> 00:26:54,300 don't worry, maybe we don't rebrand things, maybe, maybe, 429 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,050 maybe it's good enough as it is. I mean, like, it's, it's a 430 00:26:58,050 --> 00:27:01,950 pretty little badge, and it makes sense. And I don't know, 431 00:27:01,950 --> 00:27:03,630 um, you know, it'd be, there's buildings. 432 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,970 So just viewing it from an and I just want to state my position. 433 00:27:11,070 --> 00:27:17,280 I am happy to have withdrawn from the branding, marketing, 434 00:27:17,340 --> 00:27:21,060 what points to where conversation. Because first of 435 00:27:21,060 --> 00:27:24,510 all, I'm way too invested in how we started to, and I read, I 436 00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:28,140 recognize this for me, podcasting. 2.0, as we started, 437 00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:35,880 was the independent index, which you cannot get kicked off of 438 00:27:37,620 --> 00:27:42,000 what you know, with an open API for any app developer to create 439 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,330 whatever experience they want, and display whatever they want, 440 00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:48,990 if they don't want to show a podcast Fine with me, and the 441 00:27:48,990 --> 00:27:53,010 value for value streaming payments. That to me was 442 00:27:53,010 --> 00:27:58,890 podcasting. 2.0 now recognizing the polarizing statements we had 443 00:27:58,890 --> 00:28:03,090 in the beginning of freedom of speech, etc, etc, understanding 444 00:28:03,090 --> 00:28:06,270 that completely, we even soften that, and we, we've changed some 445 00:28:06,270 --> 00:28:09,300 of our messaging, but we realized that podcast index.org 446 00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:12,660 is not should not really be a destination, per se, other than 447 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,800 what is it and so, you know, and Daniel J. Lewis has put together 448 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:22,740 some very good beginning have some some ways to, to split 449 00:28:22,740 --> 00:28:27,240 stuff out. But maybe all of that is wrong, maybe it is all 450 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,980 podcasting. 2.0 and podcasting, 2.0 the namespace with all the 451 00:28:31,980 --> 00:28:36,360 features is podcasting. 2.0. For me, podcasting. 2.0 is, hey, you 452 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:41,610 can you can't get canceled and your money can't get canceled. 453 00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:46,170 And arguably, that's brought over 6000 people to the 454 00:28:46,170 --> 00:28:48,780 namespace because once you have that you have the namespace, 455 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,320 technically. And you know, you understand that you need a 456 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,710 different app. And these apps have chapters, and they have all 457 00:28:55,710 --> 00:28:59,460 the features. So you know, but that's maybe just one on ramp. 458 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,940 And maybe it's not wrong to have podcasts in 2.0 in all different 459 00:29:02,940 --> 00:29:03,600 places. 460 00:29:05,250 --> 00:29:08,310 It's it's hard for me to have opinions on these things, 461 00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:14,910 because I have a sort of a fiery intense hatred of discussions 462 00:29:14,910 --> 00:29:18,330 about what to name things. Uh huh. It drives me nuts. How 463 00:29:18,330 --> 00:29:19,530 did you come up with Grant? 464 00:29:21,660 --> 00:29:25,530 I have a friend named named Chris is the first thing I would 465 00:29:25,530 --> 00:29:32,610 have searched for. Like what? You know, I can't I just can't 466 00:29:33,150 --> 00:29:37,260 talk about those things for long periods of time. I'm like, Okay, 467 00:29:37,290 --> 00:29:40,170 that's good. Let's go with that. So I don't know, I'm just not 468 00:29:40,170 --> 00:29:40,620 the best guy 469 00:29:40,620 --> 00:29:44,370 to throw up. And ultimately, the push and pull has to come from 470 00:29:44,370 --> 00:29:47,730 the hosting companies and from the apps. That's where it has to 471 00:29:47,730 --> 00:29:52,320 come from, you know, and, of course, you know, they have 472 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,100 they've taken a different path. But fountain is doing a great 473 00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:59,640 job at promoting the features they have. And I'm seeing more 474 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,490 and more seeing companies promoting features very well. 475 00:30:02,670 --> 00:30:07,380 But I'm also seeing sovereign feeds promoting, you know, 476 00:30:07,380 --> 00:30:10,770 podcasting 2.0 in their own way. So maybe it doesn't have to be a 477 00:30:10,770 --> 00:30:15,180 centralized, you know, thing that is exactly this. You know, 478 00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:20,460 I don't know it, it feels like it's all kind of pushing along 479 00:30:20,460 --> 00:30:24,930 in some odd way. But once people will go to look to host 480 00:30:24,930 --> 00:30:27,390 something, or if they have an existing podcast host and host 481 00:30:27,390 --> 00:30:29,490 says, Oh, look at all these features we have. And these are 482 00:30:29,490 --> 00:30:35,550 the apps you know, I think the podcasting is a slow grower, 483 00:30:35,550 --> 00:30:39,000 this stuff takes years and years and years. That's the 484 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,870 experience. 485 00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:42,510 I don't know that you have and I'm happy to let everybody else 486 00:30:42,510 --> 00:30:42,930 figure this. 487 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,490 Exactly. That's what I'm saying is like, It's fine with me, I'm 488 00:30:47,490 --> 00:30:50,610 going to my value for value manifesto, which is not done by 489 00:30:50,610 --> 00:30:54,480 a longshot, but I'm working on it. And and that's how I'm 490 00:30:54,510 --> 00:30:57,780 that's where I'm gonna push people to get into podcasting. 491 00:30:57,780 --> 00:31:01,170 2.0 apps is through that. But it's it doesn't mean it's 492 00:31:01,170 --> 00:31:05,880 mutually exclusive from hyper capture, promoting podcasting. 493 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,180 2.0 was, you know, with location and chapters, location and all 494 00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:09,930 the other stuff. 495 00:31:10,980 --> 00:31:13,830 I think the biggest the biggest thing I've heard about 496 00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:17,520 podcasting 2.0 as a brand, it's I'm just trusting, you know, 497 00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:20,040 Daniel J. Lewis is the brand. He's the brand manager. 498 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,200 Oh, wow. You just want to make him a VP. 499 00:31:25,710 --> 00:31:27,840 VP. Okay, these done. VP, 500 00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:31,230 SVP, SVP, SVP? Oh, that's 501 00:31:31,230 --> 00:31:33,870 right. You get some calls from a SVP because you don't want to 502 00:31:33,870 --> 00:31:34,320 pay him more 503 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,280 correct. no increase in salary, your senior vice president now. 504 00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:41,760 That's right. And you get you get you get three weeks vacation 505 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,950 a year so to easily it. So as brand manager, he's always said, 506 00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:49,530 Well, you know, podcasts and tempo is too difficult for 507 00:31:49,530 --> 00:31:53,100 search to search for like, yeah, yeah, the SEO juice is all 508 00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:57,810 screwed up, of course. And that makes it makes sense to me. 509 00:31:58,050 --> 00:31:58,620 Totally. 510 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,360 Though, it's all messed up. But somehow it's still working and 511 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,320 people are flocking towards it. So for me, it's like, when I go 512 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,930 on shows is typically to talk about the value for value 513 00:32:09,930 --> 00:32:15,720 aspect. And it's bringing people to to the new to podcasting. 2.0 514 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,320 is bringing people to the new apps is bringing people to the 515 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,530 hosting companies. So that's my way of doing it. I don't think 516 00:32:22,530 --> 00:32:25,830 there's I don't think there has to be one way or the other. I 517 00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:28,290 don't think so either. Now, I feel really good about it. And 518 00:32:28,290 --> 00:32:30,990 yes, key back around. 519 00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:35,550 Modern is very postmodern to say, podcasting to pornos, 520 00:32:35,550 --> 00:32:41,790 whatever it means to you know, maybe the Gen Z maybe they liked 521 00:32:41,790 --> 00:32:42,360 that kind of talk. 522 00:32:43,980 --> 00:32:49,170 I know it's gonna come down to podcasters using it asking their 523 00:32:49,170 --> 00:32:52,080 audience to use it. That's just just what it takes. In 524 00:32:52,080 --> 00:33:00,960 podcasting. It's a grower not a shower I have to give C dubs 525 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,290 credit for that see, this is the beauty of doing a live a live 526 00:33:04,290 --> 00:33:07,320 podcast you get you get these one liners from people in the 527 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,450 chat who like who are much smarter than we are. 528 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:21,540 So I agree with takes me off my game. Sorry. I agree with with 529 00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:26,790 Dvorak though, like if we're both looking at the same chat 530 00:33:26,790 --> 00:33:30,150 room, it's it's uh, you know, we step we step on each other's 531 00:33:30,150 --> 00:33:33,510 curves needed. We needed Dave chat room and Adam. Correct. 532 00:33:33,510 --> 00:33:38,820 Correct. So we need we need to split split this bad boy. 533 00:33:38,940 --> 00:33:43,020 Well, yes, yes, that's true. I mean, for me, chat room is 534 00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:45,690 something in my peripheral vision that I'm reading without 535 00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:48,840 ever looking at it. You know, it's like, somehow because I 536 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,830 just the way I have it set up, like, oh, okay, I see that. I'll 537 00:33:52,830 --> 00:33:55,680 catch stuff on the corner of my eye even noticed my brain is 538 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,880 processing it after years and years and years of doing it. But 539 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,600 most for most people, it distracts distraction. 540 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,260 You got a chip, you just got a chip right in your head goes 541 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,010 straight, isn't it? 542 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,590 Well, it's all I do. Dave, I don't have any other talents. 543 00:34:11,220 --> 00:34:15,570 Give me that. Give me that. That's the talent I have. So I'm 544 00:34:15,570 --> 00:34:19,800 super happy though. stuff is really working well. Yeah, 545 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,950 always. Yeah. But I feel a little bit out of the out of the 546 00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:27,810 promotional loop. But man, I did. What Bitcoin did was the 547 00:34:28,170 --> 00:34:28,770 Peter 548 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,670 had not had. That's been the weirdest part. Okay. Sorry to 549 00:34:35,670 --> 00:34:38,250 interrupt. That's been the weirdest part of the last two 550 00:34:38,250 --> 00:34:42,390 weeks for me. I'm a heavy podcast listener. I listened to 551 00:34:42,390 --> 00:34:50,220 probably Gosh, 10 to 12 podcasts a week. I mean, I listen to a 552 00:34:50,220 --> 00:34:54,960 lot. And the last two weeks. I've been so hands on with my 553 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,550 son and everything that I've really not. I've not listened to 554 00:34:59,550 --> 00:35:05,160 maybe to three episodes of an I feel like I feel like I've just 555 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,500 completely out of it. Like I haven't listened to that show 556 00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:11,880 that you were on, ever listened to any of my typical standard 557 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,330 fare of merit mere mortals. And I'm so out of the loop. 558 00:35:15,359 --> 00:35:17,969 Yeah, I'm also a bit out of the loop because I was traveling. 559 00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:24,329 Did use pod friend to download shows for the plane ride? That 560 00:35:24,329 --> 00:35:28,109 was cool. That we didn't know. I didn't know he had that. Yeah, 561 00:35:28,319 --> 00:35:31,919 I'm sorry, not pod friend pod verse. My mistake. Okay, pod 562 00:35:31,919 --> 00:35:36,749 verse. Yeah, use pod verse. And that was very enjoyable. So I 563 00:35:36,749 --> 00:35:39,419 did catch, you know, some of some of the podcasts I listen 564 00:35:39,419 --> 00:35:44,789 to. But I was just today trying to catch up on pod land. 565 00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:46,950 Yep, same, same, 566 00:35:46,980 --> 00:35:50,370 didn't didn't get through the whole thing. I'm always 567 00:35:50,370 --> 00:35:52,560 listening to see if he mentioned something that I can get 568 00:35:52,590 --> 00:35:53,490 irritated by. 569 00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,510 I mean, that's like when you scan the chapters and see what 570 00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:57,660 oh, 571 00:35:57,660 --> 00:36:02,370 no, no, I'm not like that. I'm not I do not scan ahead in the 572 00:36:02,370 --> 00:36:07,290 chapters. I won't do it. I like No, I like now they don't really 573 00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:10,560 do image changes. But I like seeing image changes when I 574 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,670 don't want them to be spoiled. No, I don't know i But that's me 575 00:36:14,670 --> 00:36:17,460 as a creator, you know, I don't want people to listen to 1.2 or 576 00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:20,700 1.5. I want you listen to way I created it. And I just want you 577 00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:22,050 to enjoy the experience. 578 00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:29,310 And Alex sent me a note and said he doesn't think that you can 579 00:36:29,310 --> 00:36:36,060 copyright X and XML. So we were talking last week about bringing 580 00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:43,740 in the iTunes tags. And he doesn't think that you can. He 581 00:36:43,740 --> 00:36:45,960 doesn't think they're copyrightable. So like we should 582 00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:49,410 be okay, because he's basing this on clear. 583 00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:54,270 The conversation of iTunes block versus podcast block. 584 00:36:54,810 --> 00:36:58,590 Yeah, we, uh, yeah. Or just all the tags in general, really, you 585 00:36:58,590 --> 00:37:03,000 know, if we're gonna bring them all in. So he's basing this on 586 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:11,070 again, Alex, clearly a lawyer. So he's basing this on that 587 00:37:11,070 --> 00:37:12,990 Oracle Java lawsuit? 588 00:37:13,529 --> 00:37:17,039 Oh, right. You remember that? Yeah, of course. Of course. Who 589 00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:17,669 doesn't? 590 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,690 Yeah, where it was like, I think they sued Google because Google 591 00:37:21,690 --> 00:37:26,010 had created Kotlin programming language that makes it almost 592 00:37:26,010 --> 00:37:34,050 exactly the Java API. And so then, of course, Oracle lost 593 00:37:34,050 --> 00:37:39,630 that lawsuit. They lost it and a saying, Well, you know, this, if 594 00:37:39,630 --> 00:37:42,300 they if if you can't even copyright a programming language 595 00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:45,660 API, then you surely can't copyright. Like an XML 596 00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:49,560 namespace. Right? Because then you're I mean, you're talking 597 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,770 about you're getting even, like two levels of abstraction even 598 00:37:52,770 --> 00:37:57,210 higher than that. You know, there again, I don't know. I 599 00:37:57,210 --> 00:38:00,720 mean, we're not lawyers, but that seems okay to me. 600 00:38:01,410 --> 00:38:05,610 Well, the thing is, the law doesn't actually matter to 601 00:38:05,610 --> 00:38:08,040 Apple. If they don't like it, they can sue you anyway, and 602 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,420 make your life difficult. Just what it is. Right? So there's 603 00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:12,930 that 604 00:38:13,770 --> 00:38:14,790 they wouldn't sue us. 605 00:38:15,090 --> 00:38:19,890 Well, what's there to sue? Go ahead. Hey, could you please 606 00:38:19,890 --> 00:38:22,620 help us open the bank account so you can sue us over it? 607 00:38:23,130 --> 00:38:26,850 Oh, that's genius. 608 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,120 Hope I help us open this and then you can take all our money, 609 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,080 please. By the way, speaking of big tech, everything has kind of 610 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,620 cooled down now that things are changing in the world. As we 611 00:38:37,620 --> 00:38:43,050 move towards the great reset. You know, we have earnings, not 612 00:38:43,050 --> 00:38:46,020 turning out so good supply chains are hurting companies. 613 00:38:46,020 --> 00:38:50,670 We're seeing stock prices down revenues down. We're seeing 614 00:38:50,670 --> 00:38:53,910 Facebook going silent on podcasting. We're seeing YouTube 615 00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:59,580 going silent on podcasting. Hello. So predictable all of it. 616 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,120 There's no money for these for these companies in podcasting. 617 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,730 There's no money they thought they could get in on the 618 00:39:05,730 --> 00:39:10,470 clubhouse vibe. clubhouse died. For all intents and purposes, 619 00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:14,340 I'm sure I'm sure it's being used. But it's not it's not a 620 00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:14,850 thing. 621 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,240 I've got a little bit of speaking to YouTube. A little 622 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:26,280 bit of some stuff on that so ever. Spotify brought out their 623 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,950 video stuff this week. Their proprietary video 624 00:39:28,980 --> 00:39:33,510 has just the you couldn't you can upload video to Spotify and 625 00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:36,600 you can see it only if you have a Spotify account. Yeah. 626 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,470 Which to me is it's not a policy useless thing in the whole world 627 00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:43,410 does it produce a feed is does it have an actual feed even even 628 00:39:43,410 --> 00:39:44,730 if it's internal to Spotify? 629 00:39:45,570 --> 00:39:50,670 The way I understand it is that if it it does have a fee. And if 630 00:39:50,670 --> 00:39:55,680 you listen to it through the feed, then you don't see the 631 00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:01,650 video. Somehow it's only audio Uh, I could be completely wrong 632 00:40:01,650 --> 00:40:04,890 about that, but I thought that's the way it is. You only see the 633 00:40:04,890 --> 00:40:09,810 video. Holy crap. Is that you? Oh, yeah, I got a blue like one 634 00:40:09,810 --> 00:40:10,410 of those Amber 635 00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:12,030 Alert. Oh, we'll read it. 636 00:40:12,990 --> 00:40:15,600 Blue alert. It's a blue. What's our blue alert? 637 00:40:15,630 --> 00:40:16,530 What's the blue alert? 638 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,690 Oh cop cop Shopska blue alert Lauderdale County white female 639 00:40:21,690 --> 00:40:25,320 corrections officer Vicki white missing in line of duty suspect 640 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,110 as a white male inmate Casey white Casey White is 38 year old 641 00:40:28,110 --> 00:40:30,810 white male six foot six weighing 252 pounds well. 642 00:40:32,910 --> 00:40:36,570 Easy to track. He's moving slow. 643 00:40:38,250 --> 00:40:41,430 with it. He's wearing a hat. Okay, 644 00:40:41,610 --> 00:40:44,790 you clearly clearly don't have graphene, we turn that off on 645 00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:47,340 our on our open source operating systems. Dave? 646 00:40:47,970 --> 00:40:51,330 Have you been in like an airport or a coffee shop or something 647 00:40:51,330 --> 00:40:52,500 when everybody's goes off? 648 00:40:52,530 --> 00:40:57,390 Hilarious. It's hilarious. It's all different. Yes. Very 649 00:40:57,390 --> 00:41:00,990 disturbing. It gives you it's like a disaster movie vibe that 650 00:41:00,990 --> 00:41:03,270 I don't enjoy at all at all. 651 00:41:03,390 --> 00:41:07,890 Set total Scott. Okay, so we're talking about we're talking 652 00:41:07,890 --> 00:41:11,280 about Spotify? Yes. Because video. Yeah, I don't know. But I 653 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,260 mean, this sort of fits into this whole I mean, clearly they 654 00:41:16,260 --> 00:41:19,650 want to be you too. They want to take try to make a weird YouTube 655 00:41:19,650 --> 00:41:25,110 push. Yeah, but and as I was, I've been going back and 656 00:41:25,110 --> 00:41:29,100 listening to a found I found an old sand like an old storage 657 00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:32,880 area network box. This is from like, I don't know, 12 years 658 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,780 ago, and it booted up it worked. Yeah, man, it worked fine. It 659 00:41:36,780 --> 00:41:39,810 was an old Western Digital share space 660 00:41:39,810 --> 00:41:43,050 make sure you you you look for any Bitcoin related stuff. 661 00:41:43,050 --> 00:41:45,660 That's always where you find like some bitcoin. Those things 662 00:41:45,660 --> 00:41:48,990 like a wallet. Yeah, an old wallet. Exactly. Wow, what's 663 00:41:48,990 --> 00:41:50,400 this? Oh, you 664 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,480 know what? I'm telling you to do that dad on them telling you 665 00:41:55,470 --> 00:42:00,270 that's a good call actually, I'm gonna read the new so I was 666 00:42:00,270 --> 00:42:02,880 looking through this thing in his guest so much old stuff on 667 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,390 it that I had. But there is a folder in there called lectures. 668 00:42:07,170 --> 00:42:13,830 And I looked through it it's a bunch of old like, lectures from 669 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,950 the Mises Institute and old like, religious stuff, like old 670 00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:22,590 pastors and sermons and all this kind of stuff. They used to 671 00:42:22,590 --> 00:42:27,930 listen to all this stuff in there and I'm find this thing 672 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:34,530 from this like maybe early 90s, maybe 93. From a guy named James 673 00:42:34,530 --> 00:42:39,690 Boyce. James boys, of course. Now there's two James boys 674 00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:44,010 maybe I don't know James voice. There's there's like a James 675 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:51,390 Boyce and a James P. Boyce. And this guy was a preacher. And he 676 00:42:51,390 --> 00:42:54,540 was probably most famous for doing this old radio show called 677 00:42:54,540 --> 00:43:02,610 the Bible. Gosh, what was it called, like the Bible study 678 00:43:02,610 --> 00:43:05,580 hour. That's what it was. Bible study hour. And it was 679 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,070 originally as this guy named Donald grade Barnhouse. But then 680 00:43:08,070 --> 00:43:13,770 James boys took it up. And interesting guy, he died. He 681 00:43:13,770 --> 00:43:19,050 died about 10 or 12 years ago of pancreatic cancer. He had to 682 00:43:19,050 --> 00:43:21,600 show this radio show for a long time in he's really good 683 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:27,330 speaker. What I had this old lecture of him talking about the 684 00:43:27,330 --> 00:43:30,600 book, amusing ourselves to death by Neil post, 685 00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:33,690 of course, is fantastic book. And there's even an updated 686 00:43:33,690 --> 00:43:37,950 version of that, which I think postman son contributed to. A 687 00:43:37,950 --> 00:43:40,770 really Yeah, it's an updated version. Yes, a great book 688 00:43:41,370 --> 00:43:44,820 was I started listening to it while I was doing some work. And 689 00:43:44,970 --> 00:43:48,810 it really reminded me of the difference. It seemed 690 00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:51,630 appropriate for this whole debate around video and audio, 691 00:43:51,690 --> 00:43:57,930 like video versus audio almost. In sort of what what's going on 692 00:43:57,930 --> 00:44:00,600 if he's sort of step back from the podcasting angle, 693 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,070 necessarily, and just think about it on video versus audio 694 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:13,470 on its own. And he's talking about he's uses this term as a 695 00:44:13,470 --> 00:44:18,150 ref reference to a speech that Ted Koppel gave at Duke 696 00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:25,020 University, about television. And he says that he uses this 697 00:44:25,020 --> 00:44:27,720 term that we've been van attire used 698 00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:31,320 as an Vanna White, is in Vanna 699 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:36,570 White. So if you, you can play that clip. Yeah. And you 700 00:44:36,570 --> 00:44:42,420 said in the first line, America has been the sanitized and then 701 00:44:42,420 --> 00:44:44,730 he knew nobody knew what that meant, because he was coining 702 00:44:44,730 --> 00:44:48,330 the word. So the next line of the address said that's vanities 703 00:44:48,330 --> 00:44:52,020 as in Vanna White. She is very popular That program's been on a 704 00:44:52,020 --> 00:44:55,590 long time it makes a lot of money. And as you know, her her 705 00:44:55,590 --> 00:44:59,760 job. It's not what you would call demanding Vanna White 706 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,870 stuff. ends on one side of the game board and the contestants 707 00:45:03,870 --> 00:45:06,660 are calling out letters and the blocks up, they're represented. 708 00:45:06,660 --> 00:45:10,290 And as they call it out, she walks across and touches. The 709 00:45:10,290 --> 00:45:13,560 letter was then lights up, if that's the right letter, and 710 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,020 when she gets over to this side of the game board, she turns 711 00:45:16,020 --> 00:45:22,470 around like that. And she claps her hands that's well, called 712 00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:26,490 attention to how popular she is. And then he asked his question, 713 00:45:26,490 --> 00:45:30,810 he said, How can she be so popular when we don't know 714 00:45:30,810 --> 00:45:33,930 anything about her? And the reason we don't know anything 715 00:45:33,930 --> 00:45:37,320 about her is that she never says a word. She doesn't say anything 716 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,620 about herself. And so Ted Koppel asked the question, Is she a 717 00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:44,970 feminist? Every male chauvinist dream. And then he answered his 718 00:45:44,970 --> 00:45:47,910 own question. He says, She's whatever you want her to be 719 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,530 sister, lover, daughter forever. Those are his own words. If 720 00:45:52,530 --> 00:45:56,400 you're a young girl, and you're moving into adolescence, and 721 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,560 you're a little bit uncertain about yourself, I think some of 722 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,140 the model of what you could be, you know, when you grow up, if 723 00:46:01,140 --> 00:46:04,020 you're unhappy in a marriage, you might think mistress like 724 00:46:04,020 --> 00:46:06,540 that, or whatever it might be. And so what can come up with is 725 00:46:06,540 --> 00:46:10,200 saying is that television is like that. When television 726 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,260 functions as television, it doesn't function the way we 727 00:46:13,260 --> 00:46:16,320 think it does. We think of the screen up there pouring out all 728 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,100 this information at us. So we're better informed, more thoughtful 729 00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:22,920 than any people on the play face of the planet I've ever been. He 730 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,890 said, It doesn't work that way. What television does is put up 731 00:46:25,890 --> 00:46:30,660 pictures into which we project our aspirations. And the better 732 00:46:30,660 --> 00:46:33,330 television does that the better it is more successful. It is. 733 00:46:34,620 --> 00:46:36,180 Wow, that's good. 734 00:46:37,050 --> 00:46:41,130 Yeah, that that was pretty interesting, pretty interesting 735 00:46:41,130 --> 00:46:44,490 idea that you don't you're not, he goes on a little bit further, 736 00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:49,500 later and talks about just the, the nature of images versus that 737 00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:54,120 he's talking really about the written word. But this, this got 738 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,710 me thinking about podcasting. Because, you know, if you think 739 00:46:58,710 --> 00:47:03,750 about the nature of images, like he said, as you, you're just 740 00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:07,710 being shown things in order to keep you watching, engaging, 741 00:47:07,740 --> 00:47:10,800 engaged, yeah. Was it like that the you know, the alpha wave, or 742 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,730 whatever of your brain is just like, it's so hard when there's 743 00:47:14,730 --> 00:47:19,710 video playing in a room to look away from the video. It's almost 744 00:47:19,710 --> 00:47:24,600 impossible. Sometimes. He's talking about spoken word, 745 00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:28,830 excuse me, not spoken word, but written word is interact with 746 00:47:28,830 --> 00:47:33,810 your brain in a completely different way. Yes, and no, go 747 00:47:33,810 --> 00:47:34,110 ahead. 748 00:47:34,170 --> 00:47:36,330 I'm listening. I have something to say later. 749 00:47:36,780 --> 00:47:45,270 And so podcasting really touches as close to the written word as 750 00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:51,120 possible. It's, to me, it's very much like almost like oral 751 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,710 tradition. Where you're engaging with we know there's this 752 00:47:55,710 --> 00:47:58,620 personalization thing that happens with the spoken word, 753 00:47:58,620 --> 00:48:03,060 and it's in particular podcasting. Podcasting, fits in 754 00:48:03,060 --> 00:48:09,060 at a societal level, podcasting fits in what we used to know as 755 00:48:09,060 --> 00:48:15,240 oral tradition. Because yes, there's radio. And yes, radio a 756 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:18,690 spoken word a lot of times, but but you can't interact with you 757 00:48:18,690 --> 00:48:22,320 can't stop the radio in this sort of like, think about what 758 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,990 you just heard and give back. And that kind of thing. He talks 759 00:48:24,990 --> 00:48:27,660 about that in images versus Words, Part One. 760 00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:34,140 And what postman is saying is this. Television does not 761 00:48:34,140 --> 00:48:37,650 communicate by words that communicates by images. And so 762 00:48:37,650 --> 00:48:40,740 he contrasts the age of television, with the age of 763 00:48:40,740 --> 00:48:43,800 typography, which has to do with putting things in tight the 764 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:48,930 words. Now he says words, operate rationally. In other 765 00:48:48,930 --> 00:48:51,990 words, they encourage thought, you read a newspaper, you read a 766 00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:55,860 book, read an article, there's a certain distance between you and 767 00:48:55,860 --> 00:49:01,410 the printed page, you have time to think about it. It encourages 768 00:49:01,410 --> 00:49:04,620 reaction disagree, you think about why you disagree. If you 769 00:49:04,740 --> 00:49:08,490 agree, you think about why you agree. It produces a sequence of 770 00:49:08,490 --> 00:49:11,340 thought, conclusions, and so forth. Television doesn't do 771 00:49:11,340 --> 00:49:15,990 that. What television does, is throw up a sequence of images, 772 00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:19,650 one after the other, in order to keep you watching that channel. 773 00:49:19,650 --> 00:49:22,980 So you don't switch to another channel. And so they can sell 774 00:49:22,980 --> 00:49:27,240 commercials. That's the way it works. And so he says, what 775 00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:30,180 essentially happens on television is entertainment. 776 00:49:30,810 --> 00:49:33,870 That doesn't mean the television can't, to certain degree, do 777 00:49:33,870 --> 00:49:36,480 other things. And it doesn't apply, I think, in the same way 778 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,690 to videos, training videos, and so forth. That's a different 779 00:49:39,690 --> 00:49:44,070 thing. But television as it functions in society, the sort 780 00:49:44,070 --> 00:49:46,890 of thing people watch is essentially entertainment. Now, 781 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,920 you say to that, well, so why what's wrong with entertainment? 782 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,250 The answer, of course, is nothing. You might as well watch 783 00:49:53,250 --> 00:49:55,680 a movie on television and go to a theater to see it. It's 784 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,070 cheaper anyway. But what is wrong with television is that it 785 00:49:59,070 --> 00:50:02,940 pretends to be More than entertainment. And to the extent 786 00:50:02,940 --> 00:50:06,240 that it puts something serious on television, it tends to 787 00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:10,320 trivialize it and turn it into entertainment. So postman then 788 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,950 begins to work through different categories. He talks about news 789 00:50:13,950 --> 00:50:19,290 on television, you know that the average new segment on network 790 00:50:19,290 --> 00:50:21,540 television, this is stuff out in New York, you know where you're 791 00:50:21,540 --> 00:50:24,600 supposed to get it and a little greater depth. And then locally, 792 00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:30,480 the average segment on network television is 45 seconds. What, 793 00:50:30,510 --> 00:50:34,290 how much can you learn in 45 seconds. Furthermore, it's not 794 00:50:34,290 --> 00:50:37,260 just the duration, that's a problem, it's switching so 795 00:50:37,260 --> 00:50:40,200 quickly to something else, that you don't get time actually 796 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,110 think about what you have actually heard, even though it's 797 00:50:43,110 --> 00:50:43,530 short. 798 00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:47,730 Alright, this is where typically I mentioned this once every 799 00:50:47,730 --> 00:50:52,740 year, or once every two years on no agenda. Put it in the show 800 00:50:52,740 --> 00:50:57,840 notes. It's called the Zen TV experiment, in the Zen TV 801 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,730 experiment is designed to show you what is happening to you, 802 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,420 and what you are doing when you're watching television. And 803 00:51:06,420 --> 00:51:09,600 it is, and you should really do it this thing, but there's weird 804 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,860 things in there, like, watch the TV for 20 minutes with the sound 805 00:51:13,860 --> 00:51:17,340 off. And then it's watched the TV for 20 minutes with only the 806 00:51:17,340 --> 00:51:20,670 sound and no video. And then it's watched the TV for 20 807 00:51:20,670 --> 00:51:23,970 minutes with no sound and no video, you know, and then then 808 00:51:23,970 --> 00:51:27,150 it goes into all the techniques they call it's classified as 809 00:51:27,150 --> 00:51:31,350 technical events, all the things that that your brain just is 810 00:51:31,350 --> 00:51:34,410 okay with like we're inside, boom, we're outside. So you 811 00:51:34,410 --> 00:51:37,200 filled in the hole going down the steps, you know, opening the 812 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:42,390 doors, all that stuff. And it's a really try do it at least 813 00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:44,550 once. It's good to review it. You don't have to do all the 814 00:51:44,550 --> 00:51:47,880 exercises. But you get the point real quick. And you had Holy 815 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,420 crap. 816 00:51:49,050 --> 00:51:50,970 There's a lot is an online thing. 817 00:51:52,140 --> 00:51:54,780 Yeah, had been pointing to this for 15 years. 818 00:51:55,259 --> 00:51:56,729 I've never heard you talk about this. 819 00:51:58,980 --> 00:52:02,940 You don't love my shows? Man. I don't I don't have the Cintiq. 820 00:52:02,970 --> 00:52:08,010 It's adam.nz, the Zen TV experiment. How many of you know 821 00:52:08,010 --> 00:52:12,120 how to watch television? It's in the it's in the show notes for 822 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:19,140 today's episode. I forget who this guy is. The whole site, he 823 00:52:19,140 --> 00:52:22,410 explains the whole site. So it's good. Now I want to say 824 00:52:22,410 --> 00:52:25,680 something else before you get to part two. Yes, sir. I worked 825 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:31,560 with Vanna White in the MTV days. And a couple of things. 826 00:52:31,950 --> 00:52:38,370 Very smart. Very kind, very cute, obviously. Although, you 827 00:52:38,370 --> 00:52:44,250 know, I don't want to say and it doesn't matter. Her manager kind 828 00:52:44,250 --> 00:52:48,780 of a sleazeball. Her agent. He represented like Playboy Bunnies 829 00:52:48,780 --> 00:52:53,880 and stuff. No. Vanna White significantly older than I am. 830 00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:57,540 And I just remember like, wow, because I was maybe 30 Something 831 00:52:57,540 --> 00:53:01,920 she was 50 like wow. Because yeah, pretty Yes. No, we were in 832 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,760 a situation we we connected very well. You know, like we were 833 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,940 working together on the show. And she said something very 834 00:53:08,940 --> 00:53:13,020 important she said you know Do you know why the way everything 835 00:53:13,020 --> 00:53:16,020 works so well on this is we're talking about Wheel of Fortune, 836 00:53:16,020 --> 00:53:19,830 the Wheel of Fortune syndicated in you know, 5000 countries, as 837 00:53:19,830 --> 00:53:23,580 everyone knows that everyone has their own local Vanna White to 838 00:53:23,580 --> 00:53:25,680 know why it works so well. It's not as well this is Merv 839 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,100 Griffin. He's famous television producer who created those King 840 00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:31,830 world's entertainment created the Wheel of Fortune many other 841 00:53:31,830 --> 00:53:35,130 shows like that, including the Tonight Show was also Merv 842 00:53:35,130 --> 00:53:39,510 Griffin. As she said the secret that Merv Griffin always applies 843 00:53:39,540 --> 00:53:42,870 people on television are very successful if they have a big 844 00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:45,030 head physically a big head 845 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,270 she has a very big head she's 846 00:53:48,270 --> 00:53:52,980 very tiny. Patsy Jack has a big head Jay Leno The Tonight Show 847 00:53:52,980 --> 00:53:59,460 big head and that is a big So exactly what voice is talking 848 00:53:59,460 --> 00:54:05,460 about here? Is this it's so well known that the visual aspects do 849 00:54:05,460 --> 00:54:08,520 certain things to keep you engaged. That Merv Griffin 850 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,370 apparently figured out big heads keep people engaged 851 00:54:13,380 --> 00:54:14,250 Yeah, that 852 00:54:15,150 --> 00:54:18,990 that zero content value but it works. 853 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,090 What was interesting to me about this and hearing you talk about 854 00:54:24,090 --> 00:54:30,510 it even even just submits it. Yes. How much how much YouTube 855 00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:36,330 has taken all of these aspects and like random not even you not 856 00:54:36,330 --> 00:54:41,550 just YouTube? Tick tock Morson yes take as turned it up to 11 857 00:54:41,580 --> 00:54:48,030 Yes. Make because you've got you've got the rapid smash cuts 858 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,990 the the big head thing because they're always right up in the 859 00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:53,640 camera so they're Hey, yes. Manga 860 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,720 you nailed it. That's exactly right. Do that and even the even 861 00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:00,660 the poster images that promote the video will Show that you 862 00:55:00,660 --> 00:55:01,020 bet. 863 00:55:02,610 --> 00:55:06,390 And I mean that this, this is how this is how you become 864 00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:10,950 successful in video in the world of video, which is completely 865 00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:15,180 regular your average audio podcaster is not prepared for 866 00:55:15,180 --> 00:55:16,890 this in any way whatsoever. 867 00:55:16,890 --> 00:55:20,520 No way. No way. No way. No way. No, this is this is we're just 868 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,830 now really discovering how all this stuff works. 869 00:55:23,460 --> 00:55:28,410 And he, I'd say probably bring home in part two here. 870 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:38,280 When Nixon lost to Kennedy, back in, in 60. He the wisdom of of 871 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,580 the campaign managers was that it was because of the televised 872 00:55:41,580 --> 00:55:46,440 debate. And if you can recall what was said back there, Nixon 873 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,070 came off hard in a cool medium, and Kennedy came off cool and 874 00:55:50,070 --> 00:55:54,030 the cool medium. So he did better. They did a survey of 875 00:55:54,030 --> 00:55:57,660 people after that televised debate. And they learned a lot. 876 00:55:57,690 --> 00:56:01,980 They learned that when they asked people who had listened to 877 00:56:01,980 --> 00:56:08,070 the debate on radio, by large percentages, like 60 70%, people 878 00:56:08,070 --> 00:56:11,640 thought that Nixon had won the debate. And when they surveyed 879 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,450 people who had watched it on television, by almost the exact 880 00:56:15,450 --> 00:56:18,780 numbers, but the inverse thought that Kennedy had won the debate, 881 00:56:19,380 --> 00:56:22,020 because he is telling you something, it's the image that's 882 00:56:22,020 --> 00:56:25,410 communicating, not actually the content of what's being said. 883 00:56:26,220 --> 00:56:31,980 Exactly. Yeah. And do is that, you know, is that what, that's 884 00:56:31,980 --> 00:56:35,640 not what most podcasters are trying to do? That's not what 885 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,740 they're trying to accomplish? Me. You know, there's, there's 886 00:56:37,740 --> 00:56:40,770 some but I mean, there's most podcasters are trying to 887 00:56:40,770 --> 00:56:45,330 communicate content in personalized connection with an 888 00:56:45,330 --> 00:56:48,840 audience most, most podcasters I'm a traditional podcasters are 889 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:55,620 not burn, they're not going for just the quick, you low hanging 890 00:56:55,620 --> 00:57:03,150 money fruit approach. And that, I'd say, I mean, for me, I'll 891 00:57:03,150 --> 00:57:07,920 tell personally, for me, I mean, for me, this, this show, is an 892 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:13,560 outlet for the things that I think about during the week. And 893 00:57:13,950 --> 00:57:20,400 that's not something that I'm going to be able to communicate 894 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,280 in for second, smash cuts. 895 00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:30,900 Here's my, my take on this video podcast, YouTube's you know, we 896 00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:34,080 have people with headphones, and microphones and talk and stuff. 897 00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:38,820 I think it's a, it's just my feeling, I have no data to back 898 00:57:38,820 --> 00:57:43,590 it up. I don't know, my feeling is what works well is that it's 899 00:57:43,590 --> 00:57:47,610 highly clickable. So you can so someone can either link to a 900 00:57:47,610 --> 00:57:51,510 time code or typically like a Rogen, stuff gets clipped, you 901 00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:53,880 know, there's, here's eight minutes, here's 10 minutes, and 902 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,710 a lot of people watch that. And that's really relevant. It's 903 00:57:58,710 --> 00:58:01,200 kind of an you know, for eight minutes watching the videos 904 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,410 like, oh, that's exciting, you know, I'm looking at the studio, 905 00:58:04,410 --> 00:58:07,710 and, you know, there's a lot of things that are influencing what 906 00:58:07,710 --> 00:58:10,770 I'm seeing, and it's like memes, you know, it's the same thing, a 907 00:58:10,770 --> 00:58:14,700 meme can be very, very powerful. I agree completely with you, to 908 00:58:14,700 --> 00:58:18,870 me, and I've, I've always been a radio guy, I want to build a 909 00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:22,380 vision in your head. So that you are thinking about where's my 910 00:58:22,380 --> 00:58:25,200 studio when you know, what am I wearing? What is it dark? Is it 911 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,620 am I wearing green visor? You know, these kinds of things. 912 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:36,960 And, and, and the I've found success in building a community 913 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:43,140 of people around every single show that I do. And that's very 914 00:58:43,140 --> 00:58:49,080 different from having clips that, you know, suck people in 915 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,510 and they, they're done and they're gone. And you got a 916 00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:55,140 couple of couple of hits for your video for YouTube views and 917 00:58:55,140 --> 00:58:59,850 your YouTube money. It's just a different isn't, you know, it's 918 00:58:59,850 --> 00:59:01,200 what people want to do. I know. 919 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,820 Doesn't it ultimately all become tick tock. I mean, isn't that 920 00:59:05,820 --> 00:59:09,570 where everything? I mean, I think tick tock? That to me. The 921 00:59:09,570 --> 00:59:14,820 crazy thing about tick tock is that they they took all of the 922 00:59:14,820 --> 00:59:20,820 obvious things about YouTube and about social media money making, 923 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,750 and a quick hit and a viral illness. And they just jumped to 924 00:59:24,750 --> 00:59:25,620 the finish line. 925 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,280 They went through. Yeah, 926 00:59:29,460 --> 00:59:33,030 they're like, you know, screw it. Let's just jump to the end 927 00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:33,810 of this thing. Well, 928 00:59:33,810 --> 00:59:36,390 yeah, they did a couple of very smart things yet so they they 929 00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:39,420 completely programmed it for the dopamine hit for the laugh for 930 00:59:39,420 --> 00:59:42,630 the joke for the Oh, that's great. You know, all that stuff. 931 00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:50,880 The quick share the quick like the et cetera. Et Yes, you're 932 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,510 right. They jumped straight to the finish line. The genius was 933 00:59:54,780 --> 00:59:58,230 licensing the music so everybody can use the music and do their 934 00:59:58,230 --> 01:00:02,370 dances. No They're different, whatever the vibe is, you know, 935 01:00:02,370 --> 01:00:06,660 there's the dead the dead animal who Music There's the 936 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,960 oh my god, the American Kennel Club. 937 01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:12,930 Oh my god, you hear the dead. It's either the dead dog or the 938 01:00:12,930 --> 01:00:17,070 dead child like, swipe. We're all Tina and I will sit down. 939 01:00:17,580 --> 01:00:20,670 We'll do one hour a week, maybe. But she doesn't do tick tock. 940 01:00:20,670 --> 01:00:25,020 She has Instagram reels, which is mainly repurpose tick tock 941 01:00:25,020 --> 01:00:29,790 content. And it's totally enjoyable for an hour. We're 942 01:00:29,790 --> 01:00:31,620 sitting there, we're laughing our asses off and then we're 943 01:00:31,620 --> 01:00:34,380 like, don't we just also we're like, I'm disgusted with myself. 944 01:00:34,380 --> 01:00:38,250 Me too. But it's all it's, it's all of the it's all the music is 945 01:00:38,250 --> 01:00:41,010 really genius, too, but it's a different product. You know, 946 01:00:41,010 --> 01:00:42,390 it's crack. It's a little crack. 947 01:00:43,020 --> 01:00:47,250 Yeah, yeah. And we all know what crack does. Yeah. 948 01:00:47,580 --> 01:00:48,450 Makes you feel good. 949 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:50,580 Until it doesn't. 950 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,340 Yeah, exactly. So that's exactly what it is. 951 01:00:54,750 --> 01:00:56,700 Anyway, just thought just thoughts on the whole video 952 01:00:56,700 --> 01:00:57,870 thing I don't. That's very 953 01:00:57,870 --> 01:01:01,500 that's I like that. It's a very deep that we just learned. You 954 01:01:01,500 --> 01:01:05,400 know, this curry in the keeper podcast. We live in 955 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,800 Fredericksburg. There's 10,000 people that live here. Gillespie 956 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,700 county is bigger. But now we're under the auspices of Austin and 957 01:01:11,700 --> 01:01:15,330 San Antonio. So we're just talking about our guy who you 958 01:01:15,330 --> 01:01:18,900 know, helps us with a garden and you know, Mike, the ex cop who's 959 01:01:18,900 --> 01:01:22,890 building a railing for us you know, we got Greg the Greg the 960 01:01:22,890 --> 01:01:25,680 welder and we're just talking about these people. Oh my god 961 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,740 and stuff comes back like the whole town is listening. Hey, 962 01:01:28,740 --> 01:01:31,500 man, I heard you talk you said this about that guy. And it's 963 01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:31,800 like, 964 01:01:31,950 --> 01:01:34,620 what? On the show? Yeah, 965 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,920 no, no, it's Korean. The keeper Tina and I just carrying the 966 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,740 keeper here. We're just talking about shit going on in our life. 967 01:01:40,770 --> 01:01:43,470 You know? And it's like, Well, someone heard you're talking 968 01:01:43,470 --> 01:01:48,840 about the bubble bus and she's got the pink limos and it's like 969 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:53,640 small town but it's really cool to see what influence a podcast 970 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,200 can have and it's just audio. 971 01:01:55,650 --> 01:01:59,400 Soon carrying the keeper is like banging mags at local access 972 01:01:59,400 --> 01:01:59,820 radio. 973 01:02:00,150 --> 01:02:03,810 It's like Wayne's World. And only with with with Ricky and 974 01:02:03,810 --> 01:02:08,550 Lucy. And Tina's like, I see your celebrity babies. Now as 975 01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:15,090 you watch this hilarious, so you know that kind of stuff is I 976 01:02:15,090 --> 01:02:18,750 live for that Dave? I live what we're doing right? I'm happy as 977 01:02:18,750 --> 01:02:23,460 a pig and shit. I love that shit is working. I love we got more 978 01:02:23,460 --> 01:02:29,280 people coming in and using the devalue block. I mean, I love 979 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,960 this live stuff. It's crazy. You know, we're like, okay, stuff is 980 01:02:33,990 --> 01:02:37,440 in it right now. I'm seeing the boost bot is now posting in the 981 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,100 chat room that just magically happened, though. I saw I just 982 01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:45,510 saw it. Yeah, this this is so much fun. And you know, I got 983 01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:48,450 people chomping at the bit. I got Moe waiting in the wings. 984 01:02:48,450 --> 01:02:51,330 He's like, I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. Can we start 985 01:02:51,930 --> 01:02:56,940 parallel streaming to podcasting. 2.0. And then he 986 01:02:56,940 --> 01:03:00,510 wants to drop YouTube. Nice. Yeah, he's never he's never 987 01:03:00,510 --> 01:03:03,600 monetized on YouTubes. And then we would do an auto podcast to 988 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,890 No, no, he refuses. He refuses? No. Why? Why? Because he doesn't 989 01:03:07,890 --> 01:03:10,590 he doesn't want to get caught up in relying on it. 990 01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:13,590 Gotcha. Okay, well, that's perfect. Yeah, and thanks a lot. 991 01:03:13,590 --> 01:03:15,810 And he also was very clear every time hey, we're just here 992 01:03:15,810 --> 01:03:18,210 temporarily get ready because we're gonna move over to 993 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,840 podcasting. 2.0 when we have the comments set up and right now 994 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,420 with this live, this is good. You know, we got the chat room, 995 01:03:24,420 --> 01:03:28,530 we got the equivalent of the super chats we got the the boost 996 01:03:28,530 --> 01:03:33,240 bot is spewing messages everywhere. This is exciting. 997 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,910 Okay, well, let me throw something at you then. Because 998 01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:38,250 I've had this. I had this thought a couple of weeks ago, 999 01:03:38,250 --> 01:03:45,690 and I had it written down here. What there's this, you know, the 1000 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,890 all the rage now is the greater the like social audio green 1001 01:03:49,890 --> 01:03:56,700 room, all this kind of stuff. And I'm listening to Linux 1002 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:57,420 unplugged. 1003 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,310 They talk about me on the show now. Oh, do they? Yeah. Because 1004 01:04:02,310 --> 01:04:06,570 I boosted Graham them and said, Hey, how do you guys check all 1005 01:04:06,570 --> 01:04:08,850 those distros without ruining all of your show? 1006 01:04:08,850 --> 01:04:11,040 Yeah, yeah. Man, I've 1007 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,490 like those guys are there I'm part of their community. 1008 01:04:15,030 --> 01:04:18,450 Well, one thing they do is every now and then, so they have this 1009 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,200 constant. They have this live they have the live thing. Yeah. 1010 01:04:22,890 --> 01:04:26,700 And every now and then they'll throw out. They have some sort 1011 01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:33,240 of connection back to the room where they can say something and 1012 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:38,790 just like, let somebody else talk back. Hmm, that sounds 1013 01:04:38,910 --> 01:04:39,720 pretty cool. 1014 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,070 And what are they using? Do we know? 1015 01:04:41,490 --> 01:04:45,060 I have no idea. I want to find out but I wonder if that that 1016 01:04:45,060 --> 01:04:49,500 could be part of a different spec where like, like an open 1017 01:04:49,710 --> 01:04:52,980 net. See, I'm not interested in the whole Twitter spaces, 1018 01:04:53,310 --> 01:04:56,250 clubhouse, all that kind of stuff where it's like this big 1019 01:04:56,310 --> 01:04:59,310 where it's essentially just like a, like a log of dumb Zoom 1020 01:04:59,310 --> 01:05:07,920 meeting. But the ability to say, you know, hey, C Dubs. What can 1021 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,160 you tell me what you like to ask a question and then they can 1022 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:15,540 like talk back for a second and like, you're like asking them to 1023 01:05:16,020 --> 01:05:20,730 participate for a moment I mean, you're not you're not turning 1024 01:05:20,730 --> 01:05:24,120 over your show to some to like 20 random strangers but you 1025 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,420 know, you click a button and then they can they can talk. 1026 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,220 I mean, that sounds kind of what could 1027 01:05:29,220 --> 01:05:30,270 possibly go wrong. 1028 01:05:30,629 --> 01:05:33,779 Nothing and I think this is perfectly legitimate. 1029 01:05:34,980 --> 01:05:36,960 Anyway, well that's that's definitely there's something 1030 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,890 more on the production side more than I don't know if that's a if 1031 01:05:40,890 --> 01:05:45,180 that's if a namespace thing. I think it could be I'm open to 1032 01:05:45,180 --> 01:05:45,390 it. 1033 01:05:45,899 --> 01:05:49,589 By the way, that's the thing now you know, the clubhouse thing is 1034 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,000 my so to talk about this real quick. So I had another horrible 1035 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,150 crash with the Windows machine was on the road with no agenda. 1036 01:05:57,990 --> 01:05:59,370 You should have got a new machine. 1037 01:05:59,430 --> 01:06:06,660 I did get a new machine. Which one? Same one the Surface Pro 1038 01:06:06,660 --> 01:06:08,400 six. Yeah, surface six Pro. 1039 01:06:08,850 --> 01:06:10,890 Okay, now I'm going to tell you should get a different machine 1040 01:06:10,890 --> 01:06:11,100 now 1041 01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:15,240 this probably I really like it you know, the fold up everything 1042 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:19,020 is perfect for on the road. So but it was just it happens, but 1043 01:06:19,020 --> 01:06:21,330 it was a bad one was blue screen. You're the new blue 1044 01:06:21,330 --> 01:06:24,600 screen with an extremely insulting frowny face emoji. 1045 01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:30,750 Fuck you, Microsoft. Yes. So that's so patronizing. When your 1046 01:06:30,750 --> 01:06:34,110 ship just crashed and you give me a frowny face something went 1047 01:06:34,110 --> 01:06:36,720 wrong. I understand is 1048 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,680 the worst. So much of that dang loose. We're getting things 1049 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:41,940 ready. hanging loose. 1050 01:06:41,940 --> 01:06:49,050 Yeah. So I post that on Twitter and no agenda social because, 1051 01:06:49,350 --> 01:06:52,170 you know, I'm down for 15 minutes during live broadcasts, 1052 01:06:52,170 --> 01:06:55,650 like oh, people will get it. Oh, man. So I'm done with the show. 1053 01:06:55,650 --> 01:07:01,140 And there's all this like, she uses Unix, Linux. And it just 1054 01:07:01,140 --> 01:07:05,670 went on and on and on. And I'm like, no, because you can use 1055 01:07:05,670 --> 01:07:08,700 Linux is not compatible with what I need. And this is the 1056 01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:12,180 only device that does it. That even the new versions of it 1057 01:07:12,180 --> 01:07:17,130 don't do it right. And it's the Motu Ultralite MK four. And it 1058 01:07:17,130 --> 01:07:21,240 just went back and like no, it's always the same. Like no, but 1059 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:25,320 you could do this if you just worked perfectly with Elsa. 1060 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,340 Here. Pure pipe pipe message thing wire. Okay, pipe. 1061 01:07:31,350 --> 01:07:32,880 Because I know the pipe and right 1062 01:07:32,910 --> 01:07:37,170 I'm been diving down this road. Now someone eventually shows up. 1063 01:07:37,410 --> 01:07:40,470 I think it might have been Aaron or from nogen associates. Hey, 1064 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,700 the AVB and I think they replaced this unit I'd looked at 1065 01:07:44,700 --> 01:07:49,680 it it can do everything I needed to do it will work over regular 1066 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,340 Wi Fi not with the real problem is managing it through this 1067 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,690 custom service that runs on Windows. And it had now as the 1068 01:07:57,690 --> 01:07:59,820 noise gate which is why I always ignored it because didn't have 1069 01:07:59,820 --> 01:08:02,730 the noise gate. And I oh this is great. I'm going to order one 1070 01:08:02,730 --> 01:08:05,340 maybe this is the solution and I put out a bounty by the way. So 1071 01:08:05,370 --> 01:08:08,490 anyone who could make this machine this box work on Linux 1072 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,760 $5,000 in Bitcoin, that I'm still waiting for it. 1073 01:08:11,940 --> 01:08:15,510 I saw this tweet that's big. Because I can't believe nobody's 1074 01:08:15,510 --> 01:08:16,110 done it yet. 1075 01:08:16,170 --> 01:08:21,060 Well, I even registered domain name. Mo to Linux. On what is 1076 01:08:21,060 --> 01:08:25,740 it? I forgot what it is now. Linux mo to comment I got a.com 1077 01:08:25,740 --> 01:08:28,920 for which is points to that thread. It's like hey, fine, go 1078 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:33,960 do it. So of course everyone has everyone has zero solution. But 1079 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,320 I ordered this thing just before we get on the plane to fly back 1080 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,890 from New York. And like okay Sweetwater has a boom I ordered 1081 01:08:40,980 --> 01:08:44,250 the way Sweetwater walk works is they have a representative and 1082 01:08:44,250 --> 01:08:47,370 they call you and they and they your representative for that 1083 01:08:47,370 --> 01:08:50,760 purchase. And they try to upsell you of course and it's nice 1084 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,060 though, so I land the guy says Hey, Adam, yes, your 1085 01:08:54,060 --> 01:08:58,830 representative here to Sweetwater Hey, the Motu AVB you 1086 01:08:58,830 --> 01:09:02,790 know, well, you know there's we can get it for you. But it may 1087 01:09:02,790 --> 01:09:06,330 take a while because most of had a big fire about a year and a 1088 01:09:06,330 --> 01:09:10,230 half ago and everything was destroyed. And and they can't 1089 01:09:10,230 --> 01:09:13,110 get a chips for replacement. Probably not until the end of 1090 01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:14,460 2023 1091 01:09:14,850 --> 01:09:18,480 Holy crap. How do you live? How do you survive that as a 1092 01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:19,020 company? 1093 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,140 I don't know PPP loan. I don't know. 1094 01:09:22,530 --> 01:09:26,340 I distinctly remember saying that you should buy two more Mk. 1095 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:31,320 I know I know you were right into looking for him and it's 1096 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:37,170 very hard to find. Yeah, it's horrible. So anyway, I know we 1097 01:09:37,170 --> 01:09:39,510 got off on that tangent just that was just a little side 1098 01:09:39,540 --> 01:09:40,110 story. 1099 01:09:42,029 --> 01:09:44,459 So but yeah, but we're still waiting though. We're still 1100 01:09:44,459 --> 01:09:49,049 waiting for this phantom personalized. Pod father 1101 01:09:49,049 --> 01:09:50,549 endorsed signature box right. 1102 01:09:50,610 --> 01:09:54,060 Good luck with that. And I got Dave Jackson bless his soul. 1103 01:09:54,660 --> 01:09:58,290 Dave Jackson sends people to me whenever he talks to somebody so 1104 01:09:58,290 --> 01:10:04,440 I get a note from What's the Scarlet? You got the scarlet 1105 01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:07,560 what is it? No, I don't have the score. I've got the EVO who made 1106 01:10:07,620 --> 01:10:09,750 who makes the Scarlet. What's the name of that was the brand 1107 01:10:16,410 --> 01:10:19,830 Scarlet, the name of the company, Scarlett, Scarlett? 1108 01:10:20,190 --> 01:10:23,700 Yes, Scarlett and something else focus right Focus. 1109 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,380 Focus. Right. That's it. That's right. 1110 01:10:25,650 --> 01:10:28,470 So I get a note from the marketing guy. Hey, Adam, Dave 1111 01:10:28,470 --> 01:10:31,740 Jackson sent me your ways. He's very interested in that you're 1112 01:10:31,740 --> 01:10:34,230 interested in new boxes and like, oh, yeah, totally. You got 1113 01:10:34,230 --> 01:10:38,850 a bug? Yeah, we got a just for podcasters is great. So do you 1114 01:10:38,850 --> 01:10:41,820 want to do you want once and you know what? No, to send me the 1115 01:10:41,820 --> 01:10:44,730 specs. I'll be fine. Let me see the specs in LA know if I want 1116 01:10:44,730 --> 01:10:49,380 one. I want to waste the guy's time. So then I just like a get 1117 01:10:49,380 --> 01:10:50,310 an NDA. 1118 01:10:51,990 --> 01:10:54,690 Oh, no. I'm looking at we don't want NDA, my 1119 01:10:54,690 --> 01:10:57,540 eyes glaze over when I forget about him. Like I just like, Oh, 1120 01:10:57,540 --> 01:11:01,410 look at that later. And then he says, hey, you know, any word on 1121 01:11:01,410 --> 01:11:05,610 the NDA? So I looking at it. He says, By the way, here's the top 1122 01:11:05,610 --> 01:11:08,640 line specs, and he sends me the top line specs and yep, there it 1123 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:16,200 is. Hey, we even have loopback interfaces. I'm like, bro, I 1124 01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,660 don't need to sign the NDA. You don't need to send the box this 1125 01:11:18,660 --> 01:11:21,510 is this is built for gamers is not built for podcasters that 1126 01:11:21,510 --> 01:11:24,090 have it when someone in your company is serious about it. 1127 01:11:24,210 --> 01:11:27,390 Happy to help them. Oh, man, thanks. I haven't even seen the 1128 01:11:27,390 --> 01:11:28,890 box myself yet. etc. 1129 01:11:29,700 --> 01:11:33,450 If you go up market enough, can you get what you want? Like I 1130 01:11:33,450 --> 01:11:37,830 mean, if you can, can you go high enough expensive enough to 1131 01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:39,150 get this thing? 1132 01:11:39,690 --> 01:11:42,900 Not in the compact not in a compact form. Now then before 1133 01:11:42,900 --> 01:11:45,600 you know it, you're in pro gear and it's gonna be much bigger. 1134 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,630 And it's gonna need Ethernet networking and stuff now. 1135 01:11:49,140 --> 01:11:50,970 You're hauling around a 19 inch rack. 1136 01:11:51,630 --> 01:11:55,740 So the the Motu Ultralite MK four does it and it's and this 1137 01:11:55,740 --> 01:11:58,650 thing was built for stage monitor mixes. It was never 1138 01:11:58,650 --> 01:12:00,300 intended for what I'm using it for. 1139 01:12:01,770 --> 01:12:05,490 Man. You need you need to order five of these things off eBay. 1140 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,270 Yeah. All right. Well, I know some people there's some people 1141 01:12:09,270 --> 01:12:12,870 who ordered one or two this it I got it. I got you, man. That's 1142 01:12:13,470 --> 01:12:15,720 back if you ever need it. You just holla Yeah. 1143 01:12:17,610 --> 01:12:22,800 See? That's what I have on here. Oh, yeah. That's sort of 1144 01:12:24,210 --> 01:12:29,700 tangential to this. Insomnia. Radio Association in music. 1145 01:12:29,700 --> 01:12:34,440 Podcasting. Yeah. ringing a bell. Yes. Yeah, that was your 1146 01:12:36,510 --> 01:12:38,010 buddy that showed up. It was Yes, sir. 1147 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:41,790 Yeah, the old school. 1148 01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:45,000 So what is this? I want to know about what is the association of 1149 01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,400 music podcasting? Because it sounds like something we need. 1150 01:12:47,430 --> 01:12:50,970 Yeah, well, we need three of those. Okay, we'll take three 1151 01:12:50,970 --> 01:12:55,440 association of music Broadcasting's. So he pinged me 1152 01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:59,940 said, Hey, I really want to do a music podcast. And can I and, 1153 01:12:59,970 --> 01:13:05,250 you know, do I? Can I play music now? And just stream sets to the 1154 01:13:05,250 --> 01:13:10,500 artists? I said, No. But you know, if, if you have artists 1155 01:13:10,500 --> 01:13:14,790 who have songs that they are making available to you that are 1156 01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:19,470 not registered with an existing public rights organizations? 1157 01:13:19,500 --> 01:13:21,420 Yeah, sure. You can do that. 1158 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,870 And Jason Evangelia. And, you know, 1159 01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:28,830 yes, of course. Yep. So, he, he's just getting started. It 1160 01:13:28,830 --> 01:13:31,860 was really beautiful to see he jumps in, I sent him an invite, 1161 01:13:31,860 --> 01:13:35,820 and he's like, holy crap. I have no idea what's going on here. 1162 01:13:35,820 --> 01:13:38,940 I'm really confused. But I love everybody helping out with tips 1163 01:13:38,940 --> 01:13:40,080 and knowledge and stuff to help 1164 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,230 catch up, catch up. Yes. Okay. Jason, we're all confused. Oh, 1165 01:13:43,230 --> 01:13:43,530 yeah. No, 1166 01:13:43,740 --> 01:13:46,650 I even said, you know, our motto was running, you know, running 1167 01:13:46,650 --> 01:13:49,710 with scissors. So don't worry, and we all get cut. 1168 01:13:50,190 --> 01:13:52,500 That sounds like a great thing, though. Association of music, 1169 01:13:52,500 --> 01:13:56,880 podcasting. I mean, I don't know, is that some old group? Or 1170 01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,340 is that still around? Or is that a thing he's trying to do? Just 1171 01:13:59,370 --> 01:13:59,400 I 1172 01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:00,480 don't know, just 1173 01:14:01,650 --> 01:14:05,760 because I mean, that the reason I bring that up really is to get 1174 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:09,990 over to this thing, which is the taxonomy stuff. So you know, the 1175 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:15,240 economy? Yes, yes. Just is releasing an update, and we 1176 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:21,330 track that with the person tag. And, but then it's been brought 1177 01:14:21,330 --> 01:14:27,930 up a few times, I think Steven B brought it up that we need with 1178 01:14:27,930 --> 01:14:29,790 all these taxonomy things if we're going to do music, 1179 01:14:29,790 --> 01:14:34,470 podcasting. And be prepared to support all that. I mean, we 1180 01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:39,360 need to have a taxonomy this proper for putting into the 1181 01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:43,980 person tag for that stuff, too. Does that exist anywhere? It's 1182 01:14:43,980 --> 01:14:44,460 got to 1183 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,000 Well, I know I jumped in a little bit on this conversation. 1184 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:54,720 The thing is that I'm not sure if it really exists in that way. 1185 01:14:57,450 --> 01:15:02,310 Or if what exists is to limit thing, because in the music 1186 01:15:02,310 --> 01:15:07,080 business, unlike radio or even television to some degree, 1187 01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:12,780 depending on the platform, film 1188 01:15:18,449 --> 01:15:21,419 you have all these different credits that are well 1189 01:15:21,419 --> 01:15:25,469 established in the industry. You know, even the even if you're 1190 01:15:25,469 --> 01:15:29,009 just a gofer just running around for free interns, you know, it's 1191 01:15:29,009 --> 01:15:32,579 not about money, it's about position having worked on the 1192 01:15:32,579 --> 01:15:37,439 products use me. In the music business, every credit means 1193 01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:44,399 money. Right? So the guy who was changing the 24 track tapes back 1194 01:15:44,399 --> 01:15:50,279 in the day, also known as tape monkey, that guy would would 1195 01:15:50,279 --> 01:15:53,039 probably get in the liner notes as a thank you, but would never 1196 01:15:53,039 --> 01:15:55,679 get a credit because that meant money. Because that whole 1197 01:15:55,679 --> 01:16:00,419 infrastructures around money. And what I love about the value 1198 01:16:00,419 --> 01:16:04,649 block and the splits is that you can say, hey, this guy just 1199 01:16:04,649 --> 01:16:07,919 brought us coffee and bagels every morning to the studio. So 1200 01:16:07,919 --> 01:16:13,139 he's he gets a split. But but you know, that's not necessarily 1201 01:16:13,139 --> 01:16:14,009 a taxonomy. 1202 01:16:15,480 --> 01:16:17,820 Okay, so let me let me see if I understand what you're saying. 1203 01:16:17,850 --> 01:16:21,210 You're saying there probably, there definitely is a taxonomy 1204 01:16:21,210 --> 01:16:23,970 somewhere, but it's not necessarily compatible with what 1205 01:16:23,970 --> 01:16:25,530 correct we think it's 1206 01:16:25,530 --> 01:16:31,020 going to be very, very shortlist. So every musician can 1207 01:16:31,020 --> 01:16:35,220 get. So there's a difference for broadcast. There are certain 1208 01:16:35,220 --> 01:16:38,760 rights and certain people get paid for streaming. So for 1209 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,850 instance, no one gets paid when it's played on the radio. The 1210 01:16:41,850 --> 01:16:46,590 artists I'm sorry, artists don't get paid. Their ASCAP BMI, the 1211 01:16:46,590 --> 01:16:50,250 songwriter and the composer they get paid when it's played on the 1212 01:16:50,250 --> 01:16:52,860 radio through a blanket deal, but not the artists, the artists 1213 01:16:52,860 --> 01:16:57,930 do get played paid on Spotify. It's all different. It's it's, 1214 01:16:58,230 --> 01:17:03,990 it's hose is what it is. It's, it's completely hosed. Where's 1215 01:17:03,990 --> 01:17:08,910 this? To me? The simplest is, hey, I listen to the song. I'm 1216 01:17:08,910 --> 01:17:11,370 either listening to the song as a standalone track part of an 1217 01:17:11,370 --> 01:17:14,700 album, or I'm listening to it as part of a podcast. I know that 1218 01:17:14,700 --> 01:17:19,830 somehow a piece of my wallet payments that I find valuable to 1219 01:17:19,830 --> 01:17:23,610 me is going to the right people don't have to think about it. 1220 01:17:23,910 --> 01:17:30,180 But will it work with a taxonomy? I'm not sure. It has 1221 01:17:30,180 --> 01:17:31,920 to be open ended at some point. 1222 01:17:32,730 --> 01:17:38,010 Yeah. Yeah, I can see that. I mean, it goes like when I put 1223 01:17:38,010 --> 01:17:42,720 in, you know, my son's band, was the first one to have the value 1224 01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:48,900 box. And I think I think I just put in there like, you know, 1225 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:54,270 drummer guitar, right. Sing, you know, singer. I just made stuff 1226 01:17:54,270 --> 01:18:00,120 up. But, you know, I don't I don't know, I'm split between 1227 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,010 the tea because I'll now want to sort of, 1228 01:18:03,060 --> 01:18:05,970 I guess use my question. The taxonomy is not important for 1229 01:18:05,970 --> 01:18:09,510 the value blog value blog can be whatever it is. Right. Right. 1230 01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:13,770 Right. What is the importance of the taxonomy? What what is what 1231 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,860 by because, of course, I use it for guests for hosts. I've never 1232 01:18:16,860 --> 01:18:22,170 gotten further than that. What else? I mean, it's good for 1233 01:18:22,170 --> 01:18:23,640 Person Search, I guess. Right? 1234 01:18:25,050 --> 01:18:28,500 Yeah, right. So that would be things like, yeah, people people 1235 01:18:28,500 --> 01:18:31,770 out there like pod chaser track that stuff and they would pull 1236 01:18:31,770 --> 01:18:34,920 it in, you know, or it could go straight into like IMDB and 1237 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:35,640 stuff like that. Or 1238 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:40,140 I'm getting spammed through pod chaser. That's unfortunate. What 1239 01:18:40,140 --> 01:18:43,230 is your son's band name? What's the what's the where do we find 1240 01:18:43,230 --> 01:18:45,300 I just want to put in the show notes because we keep talking 1241 01:18:45,300 --> 01:18:46,860 about it, but never say anything? 1242 01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:52,830 Oh, it's Tor concept. T o RC O N? Seven. But the Roman numeral 1243 01:18:52,830 --> 01:18:54,780 like VI. Torque concept. 1244 01:18:54,930 --> 01:18:56,400 Two or seven? 1245 01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,730 is like some sort of way your images read images 1246 01:18:59,730 --> 01:19:05,460 are broken. Bruh mine. Here's the tour con images. The album 1247 01:19:05,460 --> 01:19:06,780 art images are broken. 1248 01:19:09,180 --> 01:19:10,590 cobblers kids have no shoes. 1249 01:19:12,780 --> 01:19:14,520 At least the music still works. 1250 01:19:15,690 --> 01:19:20,610 Cool. Yeah. Yeah, it's working for me the images working? Oh, 1251 01:19:20,670 --> 01:19:25,020 no, no, it's not. That's a bad. I don't know. It's probably some 1252 01:19:25,020 --> 01:19:28,800 of the remix content or cons. It's like a torch sounds like 1253 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:34,440 some kind of the tornado rating system. It's like, oh, the EF 1254 01:19:34,440 --> 01:19:35,190 three or 1255 01:19:35,580 --> 01:19:37,260 like a DEF CON for tornadoes. 1256 01:19:37,290 --> 01:19:39,510 Got it? Yeah, yes. Tornado DEF CON. 1257 01:19:40,260 --> 01:19:42,960 And now the main thing is who's going to build an app for this? 1258 01:19:43,860 --> 01:19:46,350 See, okay, I've got that. I've got that right here. I've got it 1259 01:19:46,350 --> 01:19:51,120 written down. I want to we need a music podcasting app. Yeah. 1260 01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:55,470 Otherwise is not the first person. How long have I been 1261 01:19:55,470 --> 01:19:56,160 saying this? 1262 01:19:57,630 --> 01:19:59,040 Many moons 1263 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,870 hearse to create. And it's I think it's so much simpler than 1264 01:20:03,900 --> 01:20:07,950 than a podcast app in my opinion. If I had a second I 1265 01:20:07,980 --> 01:20:15,900 develop myself a dev that up on the other sheet right? Here, let 1266 01:20:15,900 --> 01:20:21,810 me dev that for a second. The first person to dev basket. Hey, 1267 01:20:21,810 --> 01:20:27,210 that's my jam right there, man, Apple scripts. It'll be an 1268 01:20:27,300 --> 01:20:31,530 influx of epic proportions. So I'm kind of, I mean, Steven B is 1269 01:20:31,530 --> 01:20:35,460 clearly sovereign feeds is going to is going to is driving the 1270 01:20:35,460 --> 01:20:39,930 feed creation process, which is just beautiful. It just needs a 1271 01:20:39,930 --> 01:20:43,140 little explainer. I think it's so different from podcasting, 1272 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:48,240 you should be able to throw your your 12 tracks on some server 1273 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,630 somewhere along with an RSS feed, you don't necessarily need 1274 01:20:51,630 --> 01:20:54,750 a whole hosting infrastructure for that. It's not like people 1275 01:20:54,750 --> 01:20:56,940 are going to be download. I mean, yeah, if you get a hit, 1276 01:20:57,330 --> 01:21:00,990 and you got 10s of 1000s of people downloading it, you got a 1277 01:21:00,990 --> 01:21:04,500 good problem, there's a quality problem and you know, ping me 1278 01:21:04,500 --> 01:21:07,110 will help you out. But you should be able to put this 1279 01:21:07,140 --> 01:21:11,610 almost on your Umbral, you know, your your Dropbox, whatever. And 1280 01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,550 we just need to experience and it should be it needs to be 1281 01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:16,050 called something else. I think 1282 01:21:17,820 --> 01:21:22,740 that I mean, yes, Steven B. Did you see Steven B? Changed the 1283 01:21:22,740 --> 01:21:27,000 UI? Based on the stuff we were talking about last week? In the 1284 01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:29,970 TV changed the medium tag it switches? Yes. And yes, I 1285 01:21:29,970 --> 01:21:32,880 think that's what I'm saying. Like, is it sovereign? kickin 1286 01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:34,920 ass man, it's kicking out is 1287 01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:37,950 it? Well, yeah, you're I mean, we need a puck. We need a 1288 01:21:37,950 --> 01:21:41,070 podcast music app. Let me somebody somebody needs to step 1289 01:21:41,070 --> 01:21:42,330 step up. Dennis. Just 1290 01:21:42,330 --> 01:21:44,910 simple. It's like instead of podcasts, it says artists and 1291 01:21:44,910 --> 01:21:47,310 then you got albums, and then you got whatever I mean, you'll 1292 01:21:47,310 --> 01:21:48,090 figure it out. 1293 01:21:49,230 --> 01:21:50,910 See devs dev harder. So many. 1294 01:21:52,230 --> 01:21:58,050 Dev better. Learn to dev, come on. With this combo. It's hard 1295 01:21:58,050 --> 01:22:01,230 for me to follow. I'm sorry. Fall back. Yeah. So DC, we're 1296 01:22:01,230 --> 01:22:06,000 way off people. We've lost the plot now. We're just trying to 1297 01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,100 create the future of media pay no attention. 1298 01:22:08,610 --> 01:22:11,190 Yeah, the medium tag is what we're talking about the medium 1299 01:22:11,190 --> 01:22:17,250 tag, Bless you, bless you put in your podcast feed what this 1300 01:22:17,250 --> 01:22:23,010 content is, it tells you like so you can put in the medium. The 1301 01:22:23,010 --> 01:22:28,020 medium here is music. And that means to the app, it signals to 1302 01:22:28,020 --> 01:22:33,090 the app that this is not a podcast. Like just a spoken word 1303 01:22:33,090 --> 01:22:37,140 podcast, this is music so you this app, you should expect to 1304 01:22:37,140 --> 01:22:39,810 be getting music. And so that means you would be able to 1305 01:22:39,810 --> 01:22:46,830 expect a ban you know the album art liner notes, people that 1306 01:22:46,890 --> 01:22:52,140 person tags with with Band Aid, bandish names, like drummer and 1307 01:22:52,140 --> 01:22:55,290 guitarist and right right so that that's that's the medium 1308 01:22:55,290 --> 01:22:58,290 test what we're talking about. And so once you have the medium 1309 01:22:58,290 --> 01:23:02,970 tag, you can make different apps that target those only shows 1310 01:23:02,970 --> 01:23:03,690 with that media. 1311 01:23:03,690 --> 01:23:06,570 Where's that again in in sovereign feeds where I can't 1312 01:23:06,570 --> 01:23:08,310 find it now. Where do you talk? 1313 01:23:09,450 --> 01:23:12,180 I never I don't use sovereign feeds as your jam 1314 01:23:17,190 --> 01:23:21,870 I just got I just got a row of ducks law live ducks booths from 1315 01:23:21,870 --> 01:23:28,260 dreads, Dred Scott and actually has duck emojis. Oh, nice. Let 1316 01:23:28,260 --> 01:23:32,280 me see. Does it show up in the to the booth spot catch it 1317 01:23:33,510 --> 01:23:37,950 and seen it come through yet? Oh, there it is. 1318 01:23:37,980 --> 01:23:41,460 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Did you know my terminals and show the emojis? 1319 01:23:41,460 --> 01:23:43,020 You see the emojis? Yeah, 1320 01:23:43,050 --> 01:23:45,390 I'm using I'm using irsie 1321 01:23:46,830 --> 01:23:51,450 IRCC IRSs RSSI. Yeah, I'm using the same thing but I guess my 1322 01:23:51,450 --> 01:23:53,100 terminal isn't isn't grokking it 1323 01:23:53,850 --> 01:23:58,020 my terminals killer. What terminal using? Terminal. 1324 01:23:59,730 --> 01:24:03,780 Whatever, whatever it's called. Thanks, 1325 01:24:03,780 --> 01:24:07,620 pal. All right, terminal. Bash. And why don't we Why don't we 1326 01:24:07,620 --> 01:24:09,990 thank a few people Dave. And then we can just a few more 1327 01:24:09,990 --> 01:24:12,570 things we can talk about when it seems like we Yeah, seems like 1328 01:24:12,570 --> 01:24:15,120 since you saw I just run through some of these live boosts while 1329 01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,880 you're getting your stuff together. They're just so I can 1330 01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:23,250 read what was said in the last hour. So we got tu tu tu tu tu 1331 01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:28,680 from Dred Scott BUSA a row of live ducks. 1000 SATs from C 1332 01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:37,110 dubs it's alive he says 2445 from NV for N for v x. Get Lit 1333 01:24:37,140 --> 01:24:41,730 on a Friday Night Live pasta podcasting for the wind 830 for 1334 01:24:41,730 --> 01:24:47,310 SAS from cotton gin with a clown face and a global emoji 111 for 1335 01:24:47,310 --> 01:24:50,160 mere mortals testing the live boosts again want to see my name 1336 01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:56,040 and the boost bot? You all see it? Yep. 222 from C dubs with 1337 01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,200 the running where he got a whole bunch of scissors and running 1338 01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:02,940 emojis got it? Sure. A couple more from see dubs there, 1339 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,780 including a 420 and other row of live ducks from drifts Gribbs 1340 01:25:06,780 --> 01:25:11,340 Scott 10,000 from a Chris You know T shirts are great but 1341 01:25:11,340 --> 01:25:13,950 what's the amount of SATs one needs to boost to get a pair of 1342 01:25:13,950 --> 01:25:18,660 podcasting 2.0 branded scissors to run around with no. I like 1343 01:25:18,660 --> 01:25:24,060 that this new premium we'll work on it. Sir Spencer the 10,033 1344 01:25:24,060 --> 01:25:27,690 some bounty from Casey Bitcoin block party had a fantastic time 1345 01:25:27,690 --> 01:25:30,780 with Abel Kirby telling everyone about value for value streaming 1346 01:25:30,780 --> 01:25:33,630 and booster grams over the Lightning Network also got to 1347 01:25:33,630 --> 01:25:36,510 have some great discussions about the new about music on the 1348 01:25:36,510 --> 01:25:39,030 D four v protocol exciting things on the horizon. Well here 1349 01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:44,730 we are talking about it. And another 3000 tags from Chris You 1350 01:25:44,730 --> 01:25:47,310 know where's everybody? We're all finding the boost bot to 1351 01:25:47,310 --> 01:25:51,360 follow a mastodon This is awesome. Chad F with 1000 SATs 1352 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:56,490 with the boost. Kieran my first live boost 1111 miss the first 1353 01:25:56,490 --> 01:25:58,740 couple of minutes but I'm loving the late start. I'm going to be 1354 01:25:58,740 --> 01:26:01,380 egotistical and assume you didn't you did it just for me. 1355 01:26:01,590 --> 01:26:07,950 Yes, we just start just for you. Yes in another 5000 from a Chris 1356 01:26:07,950 --> 01:26:12,540 You know who's excited about? The live show Mater's with live 1357 01:26:12,540 --> 01:26:16,410 is up with 1000 SATs 1776 The Freedom Patriot boosts from 1358 01:26:16,410 --> 01:26:21,090 blueberry soundcheck false I see this sweet sticky boost bought 1359 01:26:21,090 --> 01:26:25,440 action going down a Macedon for podcasting 2.0 Hell yeah, boost. 1360 01:26:26,700 --> 01:26:33,810 We see also we have cotton gin has been boosting a bunch hard 1361 01:26:33,810 --> 01:26:38,160 hat pre boost pre boost during pre boost tree boosting. I think 1362 01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,040 that yeah, that's it all the other stuff is you have on your 1363 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,800 list. So Wow. Thanks, everybody. Hey, wow. Thanks, everybody. 1364 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:47,850 It's cool. What's great about it is we're having fun, but you're 1365 01:26:47,850 --> 01:26:51,180 also helping fund the project. Thank you. 1366 01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:54,900 This is this is decentralized Super Chat. 1367 01:26:55,470 --> 01:26:56,190 It's amazing. 1368 01:26:56,190 --> 01:26:57,840 Can we cross that one off the list? Yes, 1369 01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:01,740 we can. Web three everybody live, but don't tell anybody 1370 01:27:02,190 --> 01:27:05,040 when they won't believe you have web three is happening over 1371 01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,560 there. Everybody's good. Everybody's getting a piece of 1372 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:11,850 the action web three. Mark and Marc Andreessen is about to pop 1373 01:27:11,850 --> 01:27:12,810 up and take credit for 1374 01:27:14,910 --> 01:27:17,190 Mark underscore Andreessen in the chat room. 1375 01:27:18,150 --> 01:27:20,730 Yeah. P P mark, whatever his name is. 1376 01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:25,770 P mark. We this was this was a this was a 1377 01:27:25,799 --> 01:27:27,689 paper week. Oh, okay. 1378 01:27:27,990 --> 01:27:30,960 Yeah, you ready? Yeah. I'm ready. Sit down. 1379 01:27:31,170 --> 01:27:32,160 I'm sitting down. 1380 01:27:34,860 --> 01:27:36,990 $1,000 from rss.com 1381 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:43,680 Holy moly. big baller baller boosts big bottom. Best Shot 1382 01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:49,920 call all 20 blades on him, Paul. Thank you. rss.com 1383 01:27:50,220 --> 01:27:52,860 Don't take your hand off the boost button. I mean, off the 1384 01:27:52,860 --> 01:27:58,170 road. Okay. Message from rss.com Dave Adam, and all the other 1385 01:27:58,170 --> 01:28:02,070 contributors to podcasting 2.0 project. Once again, we want to 1386 01:28:02,070 --> 01:28:04,890 thank you for all you do via the index and the namespace. Keep up 1387 01:28:04,890 --> 01:28:08,520 the hard work your friends of the show. rss.com Alberta band 1388 01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,470 and Company. Go podcasting. 1389 01:28:10,500 --> 01:28:16,680 Yo, thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah, it's always the 1390 01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:20,130 hosting guys who have kept us alive really, with the big 1391 01:28:20,130 --> 01:28:23,400 sustaining stuff yet tells you something. 1392 01:28:24,270 --> 01:28:31,260 The Alberto is he sent me an email. I'll be coming back to 1393 01:28:31,260 --> 01:28:33,180 you pretty quick. I got I got some ideas on what you're 1394 01:28:33,180 --> 01:28:37,890 talking about. Yes, yeah. They've they've been helping. 1395 01:28:38,310 --> 01:28:41,460 Just keep us alive and going from day one. Almost. I mean, 1396 01:28:41,460 --> 01:28:45,270 just so early on. Now. I really appreciate that, guys. Thank you 1397 01:28:45,270 --> 01:28:50,340 very much. And there's so many people. I mean, I don't think 1398 01:28:50,340 --> 01:28:53,580 people understand like, on the financial side of things, 1399 01:28:53,850 --> 01:28:57,210 especially early on, there's a couple of times where rss.com 1400 01:28:57,210 --> 01:28:58,830 came in at the right no 1401 01:28:58,830 --> 01:29:01,740 rarely right time. Yeah. Really needed. 1402 01:29:04,470 --> 01:29:08,880 Always love you guys. Buzzsprout $500 1403 01:29:09,809 --> 01:29:15,869 Just hit him again. far as I'm concerned, you have a 500 SATs. 1404 01:29:15,869 --> 01:29:19,259 You're a baller. We love it. Thank you. Yeah, beautiful. 1405 01:29:19,589 --> 01:29:24,569 Thank you Buzzsprout they they have supported us every month 1406 01:29:24,569 --> 01:29:28,859 now and it's awesome. And they you know but if you've been 1407 01:29:28,859 --> 01:29:30,869 listening to us cast when they're doing the I saw 1408 01:29:30,870 --> 01:29:34,410 a post that they were talking about stuff and there was no 1409 01:29:34,410 --> 01:29:38,550 time codes. I'm listening and I had to do I had to wash the dog. 1410 01:29:39,870 --> 01:29:45,180 Sorry, Kevin has given away sets on on Twitter. Boost. 1411 01:29:45,390 --> 01:29:48,270 Nice. I love that is hilarious. 1412 01:29:48,300 --> 01:29:55,050 Cool. So we got a new Pay Pal donor this week. Uh huh. 1413 01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:00,750 Fountain gave us $200 last year and friends you Right. Thank 1414 01:30:00,750 --> 01:30:04,080 you. Yeah, yeah, I thanked him. And he said, he said it was long 1415 01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,030 overdue, and he really appreciates everything that 1416 01:30:06,030 --> 01:30:08,970 we've done. We appreciate what you guys are doing. Yes. Thank 1417 01:30:08,970 --> 01:30:12,780 you Oscar. And I think Nick, is Nick his buddy this working with 1418 01:30:12,780 --> 01:30:12,870 him? 1419 01:30:12,900 --> 01:30:14,670 I believe so. Yeah. I think it's 1420 01:30:14,670 --> 01:30:21,690 Nick. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. Oscar. Todd news. $50 Okay. 1421 01:30:22,500 --> 01:30:23,730 Thank you, James. Thank 1422 01:30:23,730 --> 01:30:24,930 you, James. Very much. 1423 01:30:25,110 --> 01:30:29,850 Yes. That I get you to, to rewrite half of our privacy 1424 01:30:29,850 --> 01:30:30,510 policy in the 1425 01:30:30,959 --> 01:30:34,739 US Yes, this is exactly this is the value for value system. 1426 01:30:35,069 --> 01:30:38,189 Yeah. It's not like you're not working Dave Jones. 1427 01:30:38,669 --> 01:30:41,939 Well, that's how lawyers work. You know, you pay him and then 1428 01:30:41,939 --> 01:30:46,889 they have other people who are exactly Lauren balls and is 1429 01:30:47,099 --> 01:30:51,329 $25.20 their paper and he says, to answer the question, Why 1430 01:30:51,329 --> 01:30:55,799 $24.20 I think that's his recurring donation is to answer 1431 01:30:55,799 --> 01:31:01,079 the question why 2420 because 2520 does not add up enjoy the 1432 01:31:01,079 --> 01:31:06,749 day all right about missing I don't understand I don't 1433 01:31:06,750 --> 01:31:11,400 know I don't know there's a 420 in there maybe. It may I guess 1434 01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:12,660 that's where my brain goes. 1435 01:31:13,980 --> 01:31:15,450 Thank you for this money. Yeah, I 1436 01:31:15,450 --> 01:31:17,970 still don't understand which Okay, keep it coming. Keep 1437 01:31:17,970 --> 01:31:19,560 explaining it. Yes. 1438 01:31:19,590 --> 01:31:26,490 Try many times in different ways. $17.91 from Michael Newman 1439 01:31:27,270 --> 01:31:32,310 our buddy the manager of the team's repo. Oh yes right yep. 1440 01:31:32,820 --> 01:31:35,430 all around good guy says hitting the easy button this month 1441 01:31:35,430 --> 01:31:39,840 because my outbound liquidity is shot Who here's a here's a Bill 1442 01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:44,130 of Rights ratified in 1791 stack of Fiat fun coupons in place 1443 01:31:44,130 --> 01:31:46,680 with my monthly SATs. This ship 1444 01:31:49,110 --> 01:31:52,110 will spend it as quickly as we can before devalues before our 1445 01:31:52,110 --> 01:31:54,360 very eyes. Hey, did the inflation numbers come out 1446 01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:54,720 today? 1447 01:31:55,890 --> 01:31:59,190 Do I hope so. I hope you know what it'll probably say is like, 1448 01:31:59,670 --> 01:32:02,700 oh, it's like 7% that's all meantime in the real world is 1449 01:32:02,700 --> 01:32:04,020 like 40% Yeah, right. 1450 01:32:05,130 --> 01:32:06,360 I bought a month 1451 01:32:06,690 --> 01:32:12,510 battery for mum. My wife's car today. car battery. Uh huh. Same 1452 01:32:12,510 --> 01:32:16,440 battery about three years ago. Three years ago, this battery 1453 01:32:16,440 --> 01:32:22,410 cost $165 today $220. 1454 01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:26,400 Brother I'm telling you we filled up our propane tank. 1455 01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:35,160 Before we didn't go on vacation. It was 270 a gallon now 320 1456 01:32:37,290 --> 01:32:41,850 And this is not this is not 8% inflation this is way more Yes 1457 01:32:41,850 --> 01:32:44,550 way. Well, there's difference between headline inflation, 1458 01:32:44,970 --> 01:32:48,480 which is your food and gas which is your headlines. And then core 1459 01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:51,720 inflation which is everything else so stop complaining. Joe 1460 01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,950 Biden's doing a great job. Trust your central bankers they're 1461 01:32:55,950 --> 01:32:56,430 great. 1462 01:32:56,969 --> 01:32:57,749 It's the Putin price 1463 01:32:57,990 --> 01:33:02,190 it's a Putin price hike. How insulting are these people like 1464 01:33:03,030 --> 01:33:08,580 Adam see heart no relation to Adam see curry sent us $10 No no 1465 01:33:08,820 --> 01:33:10,080 could not find it all right. Thank you. 1466 01:33:10,110 --> 01:33:10,830 Thank you very much. 1467 01:33:12,030 --> 01:33:13,830 That's Mr. Paper I 1468 01:33:13,830 --> 01:33:18,210 will take it Fiat fun coupons in the in actually Ilan coin we 1469 01:33:18,210 --> 01:33:18,600 love it 1470 01:33:23,010 --> 01:33:24,900 inbox okay but 1471 01:33:26,220 --> 01:33:30,300 oh hold on Well, let's do this properly because I'm still I'm 1472 01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:37,170 still obsessed with this boost jingle I can't help myself. I 1473 01:33:37,170 --> 01:33:37,620 love it. 1474 01:33:38,730 --> 01:33:41,100 Ice Cube I want to put in brand new car battery with a big 1475 01:33:41,100 --> 01:33:47,400 sticker was faced 2500 says from Sir Shona, the Allegheny Valley 1476 01:33:47,430 --> 01:33:50,400 AK Sean McCune, he says go crypto casting 1477 01:33:52,530 --> 01:33:53,700 okay trying to get my goat 1478 01:33:54,150 --> 01:33:58,650 se lewd and gave us a 1611 SAS and he says I just want to give 1479 01:33:58,650 --> 01:34:02,670 you a pronunciation guide on the name. It's the word lewd with a 1480 01:34:02,670 --> 01:34:06,600 C sound right before but mesh together sound like it's a sound 1481 01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:12,210 like a foreigner pronouncing the name, Claude. Haha, clue. Clue. 1482 01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:17,130 Okay, I see also a reason the reason for the 1611 SAS is 1483 01:34:17,130 --> 01:34:19,890 because that's the year the King James Bible was authorized go 1484 01:34:19,890 --> 01:34:28,170 podcasting go boost. Thank you clay Thank you. clewd blueberry, 1485 01:34:28,260 --> 01:34:31,830 or we'd like to call him boost Burris and a boob donation. 8008 1486 01:34:31,830 --> 01:34:35,430 sets through fountain he says shout out to servo and the 1487 01:34:35,430 --> 01:34:38,850 amazing work he does. Gal the bot that hangs out in the green 1488 01:34:38,850 --> 01:34:43,230 room on zero node. Hashtag green room will do all sorts of 1489 01:34:43,230 --> 01:34:46,650 amazing things if you ask. She'll even read boosts out. But 1490 01:34:46,650 --> 01:34:50,850 most importantly, she can now do Celtic Tarot spreads for you, 1491 01:34:50,850 --> 01:34:53,550 which is some of the coolest shit I've ever seen. 1492 01:34:53,580 --> 01:34:58,170 Okay, I don't understand any of that, but it's fantastic. So do 1493 01:34:58,170 --> 01:35:01,770 I have to hit the hashtag Hey girl What do I do? I want to 1494 01:35:01,770 --> 01:35:02,850 activate the shit. 1495 01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:07,200 Hashtag green room in his Celtic Tarot spreads. 1496 01:35:07,230 --> 01:35:08,220 So what do you do? 1497 01:35:08,940 --> 01:35:09,960 I don't know. Well, 1498 01:35:09,990 --> 01:35:10,800 do you know help? 1499 01:35:12,750 --> 01:35:13,920 I don't know show reboost 1500 01:35:13,950 --> 01:35:18,720 Oh, you got to join hashtag green room on second let me try 1501 01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:22,260 that joy that gets get you terrorists bread green room 1502 01:35:22,260 --> 01:35:24,720 okay, I'm in there now what do I do? 1503 01:35:26,460 --> 01:35:28,980 Exclamation point draw space Celtic 1504 01:35:29,670 --> 01:35:38,370 draw Celtic? Yeah. See she's, oh did it sent me back an image. 1505 01:35:39,990 --> 01:35:40,350 It's 1506 01:35:42,570 --> 01:35:43,380 like an image of 1507 01:35:43,500 --> 01:35:48,090 Taroko sent me a link link to an image. Don't click on his virus. 1508 01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,300 Oh no Oh, oh, he's gonna send me back a whole bunch of tarot 1509 01:35:51,300 --> 01:35:55,500 cards. Okay. All right, nice, but how does that bring money 1510 01:35:55,500 --> 01:36:00,840 into our node? Okay, all right, um, back to the 2.0 chat room. 1511 01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:01,470 Okay, sorry, 1512 01:36:01,500 --> 01:36:05,940 Rebecca and Jen. 5000 SATs. Ooh, she says welcome back. Thank 1513 01:36:05,940 --> 01:36:08,100 you. She's talking about maybe here maybe? 1514 01:36:09,060 --> 01:36:09,540 Yeah. 1515 01:36:11,910 --> 01:36:17,550 9813 37 leet sets and he says I grew up watching anime with 1516 01:36:17,550 --> 01:36:20,580 subtitles so it just feels comfortable to have on but not 1517 01:36:20,580 --> 01:36:28,770 all the time. Will take comic strip blogger delimiter No, no, 1518 01:36:28,770 --> 01:36:30,390 no, no, that's that. They gotta 1519 01:36:30,450 --> 01:36:32,820 know he sent this he sent this late today. 1520 01:36:33,660 --> 01:36:37,110 Okay, I've got him out of order so I'm outside. Yeah, 1521 01:36:37,710 --> 01:36:42,780 it's just like to understand why comics or Blogger is obsessed 1522 01:36:43,260 --> 01:36:47,160 with booster grabbing making sure that he knows that we've 1523 01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,680 boosted gramming That that we have to confirm that the booster 1524 01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:51,270 gram is received 1525 01:36:52,139 --> 01:36:56,099 your as your you just said the words I'd like to know what 1526 01:36:56,099 --> 01:36:58,799 comic strip bloggers obsessed with fill in the blank. Big 1527 01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:01,770 mistake. Yes. Big mistake should not have asked that. 1528 01:37:02,910 --> 01:37:07,110 CASP eland 3690 sets the fountain A says I stopped the 1529 01:37:07,110 --> 01:37:11,520 33x X donations no more Abort mission donations. I go for the 1530 01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:15,480 3690 or the 963 Tesla number donation level thanks for the 1531 01:37:15,480 --> 01:37:15,870 show. 1532 01:37:15,930 --> 01:37:19,740 Don't post yes nice thank you cash Oh 1533 01:37:19,740 --> 01:37:23,580 Karen from the mere mortals podcast he's in the chat room 1534 01:37:23,580 --> 01:37:28,080 right now he's sit at row ducks 2222 Yo thought brand and he 1535 01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:35,940 says just listen to your chat on what Bitcoin did Adam really 1536 01:37:35,940 --> 01:37:39,210 great explanation of podcasting 2.0 and V for V Thank you and 1537 01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,960 your enthusiasm is infectious. And it's going to be awesome to 1538 01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:47,250 see Bitcoin 2.0 and V for V all grow together. Don't tire 1539 01:37:47,250 --> 01:37:50,460 yourself out Dave. We can still take along without the Potts age 1540 01:37:50,460 --> 01:37:52,920 for a while. Glad your son learned his lesson. My dad 1541 01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:56,490 always said that Motorbikes are coffins on wheels. Yeah. Yes. 1542 01:37:56,820 --> 01:38:02,850 What Bitcoin did, that's Peter McCormick, Peter McCormick. I 1543 01:38:02,850 --> 01:38:06,660 did that interview when he was in Austin and had Airbnb and it 1544 01:38:06,660 --> 01:38:10,470 was really early in the morning. But I appreciate Peter so much 1545 01:38:10,470 --> 01:38:14,220 because we disagree on a lot of things philosophically 1546 01:38:14,220 --> 01:38:20,250 politically. But we wish He's such a nice cordial man. And he 1547 01:38:20,250 --> 01:38:23,100 will let you speak and you know he can deal say I don't agree 1548 01:38:23,100 --> 01:38:26,400 with that. But it doesn't make a big deal isn't argumentative 1549 01:38:27,180 --> 01:38:30,390 just really leave someone in their own value I think is how 1550 01:38:30,390 --> 01:38:35,370 the Dutch say it and and so appreciated. And yes, I got a 1551 01:38:35,370 --> 01:38:40,710 lot of of most of the recent podcast interviews I've done is 1552 01:38:40,710 --> 01:38:44,910 really, it got a lot of people talking about 2.0 and stuff. 1553 01:38:45,629 --> 01:38:49,409 The thing I remember and I've never met him talk to him or 1554 01:38:49,409 --> 01:38:52,499 anything but the only thing I remember about Peter McCormick 1555 01:38:52,499 --> 01:38:58,169 is when the whole El Salvador Bitcoin right under thing 1556 01:38:58,169 --> 01:38:58,649 happened. 1557 01:38:59,610 --> 01:39:02,040 Like he's down went down there, right? Yeah, he went down. Uh 1558 01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:02,610 huh. 1559 01:39:02,970 --> 01:39:08,220 And met with boo Kaylee. And he's here in like, a t shirt and 1560 01:39:08,220 --> 01:39:11,970 some shorts. Yeah. Shaken boo Kelly, the president of the 1561 01:39:11,970 --> 01:39:14,550 country's hand. Yes, buddy. Oh, Twitter's like could you don't 1562 01:39:14,580 --> 01:39:15,480 like like 1563 01:39:15,480 --> 01:39:20,280 put on some pants or something? Gotta appreciate it, man. 1564 01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:21,300 Bitcoin. 1565 01:39:22,230 --> 01:39:26,970 Let Andy Lehmann from Lima creations a 1776 a little 1566 01:39:26,970 --> 01:39:31,020 liberty SATs Matic and he says a lawful but awful hilarious. 1567 01:39:31,170 --> 01:39:33,900 All right. Yep, that was our title. 1568 01:39:35,670 --> 01:39:40,050 Mary Oscar, also known as Oscar marry 50,000 SATs through 1569 01:39:40,050 --> 01:39:42,750 fountain and he says boosting for David grant hopefully a 1570 01:39:42,750 --> 01:39:48,420 smooth recovery will thank you. Boost he sends a Pay Pal 1571 01:39:48,420 --> 01:39:49,530 handsome SATs in this Yeah, 1572 01:39:49,530 --> 01:39:50,730 we exotic control. 1573 01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:55,830 He's a upstanding fellow. Karen from mere mortals back again. He 1574 01:39:55,830 --> 01:39:58,230 gave us another row of ducks. And he says I've been thinking 1575 01:39:58,230 --> 01:40:01,170 about two things lately. And unintended consequences and 1576 01:40:01,170 --> 01:40:05,280 realize desires that are that are only what you wanted in your 1577 01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:11,100 head and not in reality. This is deep stuff here. Hagar, if 1578 01:40:11,190 --> 01:40:12,990 Carmen's eaten the shrooms again. 1579 01:40:17,910 --> 01:40:22,410 I don't know what gal the green room but is handling handing out 1580 01:40:22,410 --> 01:40:26,490 but it's good. Good for you. Yeah. I wonder if the people who 1581 01:40:26,490 --> 01:40:30,030 write these demanding podcasting should articles have really 1582 01:40:30,030 --> 01:40:33,660 thought it through. If Valerie sponsored her favorite app to 1583 01:40:33,660 --> 01:40:36,870 implement these recommendations, she would probably hate the app 1584 01:40:37,020 --> 01:40:40,140 in the app itself would become a worst product. Maybe a case 1585 01:40:40,140 --> 01:40:47,460 study before wholesale changes to an industry. Yes, good. Roi, 1586 01:40:47,850 --> 01:40:52,740 slash on sale. 54,321 stats 54321. 1587 01:40:54,390 --> 01:40:59,310 Roi. Thank you, Ronnie. 1588 01:40:59,430 --> 01:41:01,830 He says, Hey, Dave, wishing your son a speedy recovery. Well, 1589 01:41:01,830 --> 01:41:02,610 thank you, Roy. 1590 01:41:03,480 --> 01:41:07,320 I'm gonna catch up with Roy. next couple of days. I should 1591 01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:12,930 give Roy Roy is what I love about Roy. He's always we have 1592 01:41:12,930 --> 01:41:15,780 signal chats. And I'm sure you have the same show. Everyone has 1593 01:41:15,780 --> 01:41:20,490 the same with Roy. He's always the guy who will send a hand 1594 01:41:20,490 --> 01:41:26,340 clap of a praying hands emoji and hearts. Here. He's big on 1595 01:41:26,340 --> 01:41:29,400 sending hearts and I really appreciate that. Not many men 1596 01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:32,310 will do that. You know, not many men will do that. And I really 1597 01:41:32,310 --> 01:41:33,450 liked that, that he does that. 1598 01:41:33,870 --> 01:41:36,420 It's changed me I started doing I know. 1599 01:41:36,480 --> 01:41:40,320 I know. It's funny you say that. I'm like, I love this. The other 1600 01:41:40,410 --> 01:41:45,030 okay, I'm in New York. I'm in I'm like, there's a lot of 1601 01:41:45,030 --> 01:41:47,460 activity. I'm going to bookstores, my daughter and you 1602 01:41:47,460 --> 01:41:50,340 know, this is a bookstore where they forced us to wear a mask. 1603 01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:52,950 And I was I was a little irritated and I'm just trying to 1604 01:41:52,950 --> 01:41:57,660 figure out I'm texting with Tina, I'm texting with a couple 1605 01:41:57,660 --> 01:42:01,620 other people. I'm texting with Dave for some stuff. And and so 1606 01:42:01,620 --> 01:42:05,370 I tell Tina, it's like I love you. And then Dave is like, I 1607 01:42:05,370 --> 01:42:09,840 love you too. posted the wrong chat. 1608 01:42:12,900 --> 01:42:16,080 My day. My ROI mode. 1609 01:42:16,380 --> 01:42:19,890 Exactly like oh, okay, I love you too. It's all good. 1610 01:42:20,190 --> 01:42:27,540 Very bag, baby. Yeah. Sir Doug 4400. Sets, says message is just 1611 01:42:27,570 --> 01:42:31,380 a value for value. Thank you. Thank you, Sir Don Kim. Oh, Chad 1612 01:42:31,380 --> 01:42:36,750 Farah. Yep. Love Chad 30 333 sets. And he says I really liked 1613 01:42:36,750 --> 01:42:39,960 these two plus hour episodes of a two hour episode last week. 1614 01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:40,140 Yeah, 1615 01:42:40,140 --> 01:42:46,500 we did. What was a warm? Post? We do. Long. One on 143. Now 1616 01:42:47,070 --> 01:42:52,830 Oh, geez. Comic Strip blogger. Let's see. Oh, this is from two 1617 01:42:52,830 --> 01:42:56,160 diff. That's from last the last week. Okay, I'm gonna combine 1618 01:42:56,160 --> 01:43:03,120 these. All right. Martin for pot friend. I miss you Martin. 7654. 1619 01:43:03,510 --> 01:43:07,350 Sets. He says how much pod to the podcast are cast if a 1620 01:43:07,350 --> 01:43:08,670 podcaster could cast pod 1621 01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:14,070 kill me. Danish. Yeah, typical. 1622 01:43:14,670 --> 01:43:19,710 Oh, Macintosh. 1000 sets through fountain he says. Thanks for the 1623 01:43:19,710 --> 01:43:22,440 kind words last week Dave? I'm just trying to do my part to 1624 01:43:22,440 --> 01:43:25,230 help out the message last week was completely messed up by 1625 01:43:25,230 --> 01:43:28,860 Apple. Apple iPhone autocorrect was something along the lines of 1626 01:43:28,860 --> 01:43:31,980 Note to self aid to top off wallet. That's why I could only 1627 01:43:31,980 --> 01:43:34,710 send 50 SATs. It was my last 50 says in the wall. Oh 1628 01:43:34,710 --> 01:43:35,280 no. 1629 01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,280 You two are awesome. And have been my number one podcast 1630 01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:40,380 listen since episode one. Oh, that's very, 1631 01:43:40,380 --> 01:43:41,250 very cool. Thank you. 1632 01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:46,530 Thank you, Macintosh appreciate and fill your wallet back. 1633 01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:49,200 Tap that up. 1634 01:43:49,530 --> 01:43:54,780 Yeah. Chip 98 gave us 1337 says and he says plus one for making 1635 01:43:54,780 --> 01:43:56,160 it easier for musicians. 1636 01:43:57,030 --> 01:44:00,270 Yeah, this is gonna be an influx man. The musicians are 1637 01:44:00,299 --> 01:44:03,719 primed. And sovereign feeds is where it's going to begin I 1638 01:44:03,719 --> 01:44:04,949 think. Oh, yeah. 1639 01:44:04,980 --> 01:44:07,380 Oh, yeah. That's the sovereign feeds is driving it. You bet. 1640 01:44:08,850 --> 01:44:13,830 Okay, so chemistry blogger. Here we go. delimiter Howdy, David. 1641 01:44:13,830 --> 01:44:17,430 Adam. See, here's your polish pal, the CSP hobby cartoon 1642 01:44:17,430 --> 01:44:21,510 doodler, and I'm trying new app fountain for iPhone. So 1643 01:44:21,780 --> 01:44:24,360 artificial intelligence is one of the top three most impactful 1644 01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:27,330 technologies invented by mankind. And you are warmly 1645 01:44:27,330 --> 01:44:31,110 welcome to listen to our podcast about AI called AI duck cooking. 1646 01:44:31,620 --> 01:44:36,090 Read by Gregory William Forsythe Foreman from Kent. Just typing 1647 01:44:36,090 --> 01:44:40,920 your web browser any podcast app, quote, AI dot cooking 1648 01:44:41,010 --> 01:44:42,240 unquote. Yeah. 1649 01:44:42,900 --> 01:44:45,930 All right. Well, I've decided that we needed a jingle for 1650 01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:53,160 comics or Blogger think that was appropriate for him now. 1651 01:44:53,610 --> 01:44:59,100 That's very final. That's very final sending is like, monthlies 1652 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,080 through Pay Pal we get James Sullivan $10 Jones last Buck $5 1653 01:45:04,440 --> 01:45:09,150 Christopher Raymer $10 Sean McCune $20 Jordan van Dunnville 1654 01:45:09,180 --> 01:45:17,790 $10.02 coats $6.66 the donation of evil. dribs Scott $15. Good 1655 01:45:17,790 --> 01:45:23,130 old Drib Michael Kimmerer $5.33 Thank you, Michael. Lesley 1656 01:45:23,130 --> 01:45:29,760 Martin $2 Jeff Miller $20 Aaron Renaud $5 and Pedro gone calvess 1657 01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:30,720 $5. 1658 01:45:31,020 --> 01:45:35,100 Thank you all so much for supporting the project and a 1659 01:45:35,100 --> 01:45:39,450 special shout out to Dred Scott who always updates us when he's 1660 01:45:39,480 --> 01:45:44,640 he does so many chapter chapter or so much chapter work for so 1661 01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,880 many different podcasts. Then he'll always update us like, 1662 01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:51,660 Hey, man, like my kids puking. I'm puking on my kid. And my 1663 01:45:51,660 --> 01:45:55,440 wife's puking on both of us. It may be delayed a little bit 1664 01:45:55,440 --> 01:45:59,250 like, Oh, it's okay. It's okay. Well, we'll work it out. But 1665 01:45:59,250 --> 01:46:03,720 also, especially with with the booster grams, you know, it's 1666 01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:07,320 going all the way down line. Everybody gets their share. We 1667 01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:11,130 have all the splits put in and it's so you're really helping 1668 01:46:11,130 --> 01:46:13,350 the whole system including we talked about sovereign themes. 1669 01:46:13,350 --> 01:46:15,720 You're helping sovereign feasts, I'm a curio Kassar, we're 1670 01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,180 actually helping carry Kassar if you're listening in Fountain 1671 01:46:18,180 --> 01:46:20,580 you're helping you're helping everybody with your booster 1672 01:46:20,580 --> 01:46:25,200 grams That was always the vision and that's working and really 1673 01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:30,120 appreciate that hard hat sent to another row of ducks as did end 1674 01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:35,250 for VX with a he said quote big heads keep people engaged in 1675 01:46:35,250 --> 01:46:39,330 quote Adam curry podcasting to point out some more ducks from 1676 01:46:39,330 --> 01:46:43,080 Carolyn we got boost burry with podcast with scissors boost me 1677 01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:47,400 bitch. Alright, so thank you all so much for that. Also for our 1678 01:46:47,430 --> 01:46:52,020 Fiat fun coupon donations go to podcast index.org That's where 1679 01:46:52,020 --> 01:46:54,840 you can see at the bottom a donate button for PayPal. 1680 01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:58,440 There's also you can send us if you want to send us Bitcoin on 1681 01:46:58,440 --> 01:47:01,470 chain. But of course I'd like you to get a podcast app from 1682 01:47:01,470 --> 01:47:04,620 new podcast apps.com Fill up your wallet and get cranking and 1683 01:47:04,620 --> 01:47:07,560 boosting and not just us boost everything boosts lots of shows. 1684 01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:14,100 Your your boost uses your dinner. Boosts Your dinner. Yes. 1685 01:47:14,460 --> 01:47:16,950 Because one thing's for sure we're not getting any part of 1686 01:47:16,950 --> 01:47:19,710 that Spotify open source fund money. 1687 01:47:21,060 --> 01:47:23,940 Oh yeah, I love Spotify fun. What 1688 01:47:23,940 --> 01:47:26,580 a douche bags. 1689 01:47:26,940 --> 01:47:29,520 Remember the last one? Of course you don't 1690 01:47:29,610 --> 01:47:33,270 know Dad's curriculum covered that quite well. Now. These guys 1691 01:47:33,270 --> 01:47:36,990 are so full of shit. All of them, all of them. Trust me, 1692 01:47:36,990 --> 01:47:41,700 it's all going away. You'll see. Netflix can't even keep their 1693 01:47:41,700 --> 01:47:45,150 red. They're their members. This is all falling apart in front of 1694 01:47:45,150 --> 01:47:46,110 our very eyes. 1695 01:47:46,590 --> 01:47:51,120 The next the Netflix thing is just sad. I mean that that's 1696 01:47:51,210 --> 01:47:56,160 they have nothing to eat. You have. But who was it that got 1697 01:47:56,160 --> 01:48:02,550 bought by discovery? CNN. Okay, see? Let's see. And then and 1698 01:48:02,550 --> 01:48:05,940 then you got what an HBO part of that deal to did that come out 1699 01:48:05,940 --> 01:48:07,200 of AT and T and 1700 01:48:07,350 --> 01:48:11,160 HBO was Warner. So yeah, that's a part of Yeah. And then 1701 01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:14,880 you had somebody bought MGM? 1702 01:48:15,599 --> 01:48:19,739 Oh, that was a while back. That was Amazon Amazon, right Amazon 1703 01:48:19,739 --> 01:48:19,949 bought 1704 01:48:20,580 --> 01:48:24,720 in the deal just closed. You've got all these companies that are 1705 01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:29,820 consolidating their, their, their catalogs and controlling 1706 01:48:29,820 --> 01:48:32,490 these, they're going to end up with a few companies controlling 1707 01:48:32,490 --> 01:48:36,660 these huge catalogs of prior films and stuff. And then you're 1708 01:48:36,660 --> 01:48:38,910 gonna have Netflix over there with nothing. 1709 01:48:39,059 --> 01:48:42,749 Well, most are going to have nothing. It's, it's it's going 1710 01:48:42,749 --> 01:48:45,959 to be it's going to it's not going to end well. But also what 1711 01:48:45,959 --> 01:48:50,609 do you really have? What do you really have and again, these 1712 01:48:50,609 --> 01:48:53,249 companies are not really thrown off profit. I mean, Amazon is 1713 01:48:53,249 --> 01:48:58,019 short for their Amazon Studios a loss leader for them. HBO is the 1714 01:48:58,019 --> 01:49:01,229 only one really doing it right in my opinion. And I think I 1715 01:49:01,229 --> 01:49:03,479 think they've been longtime Yeah, they've been doing a long 1716 01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:06,209 time that they're making money, everyone else is not making 1717 01:49:06,209 --> 01:49:06,569 money. 1718 01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:12,300 I think the time is coming to an end where you're going to be 1719 01:49:12,300 --> 01:49:15,090 able to in this is where it relates to podcasting in my 1720 01:49:15,090 --> 01:49:17,850 mind, I think the time has come to an end where you're going to 1721 01:49:17,850 --> 01:49:22,830 have like these podcasters that where you have a have a good set 1722 01:49:22,830 --> 01:49:26,670 of IP and you just roll it over there to Netflix or Amazon and 1723 01:49:26,670 --> 01:49:30,000 turn it into like a like a video book film property. Yeah, 1724 01:49:30,030 --> 01:49:32,340 because I don't think the money is going to be there to do that 1725 01:49:32,340 --> 01:49:32,940 stuff. 1726 01:49:33,030 --> 01:49:35,700 I mean, I was listening to pod land and I didn't hear 1727 01:49:35,700 --> 01:49:39,540 everything but I heard yeah wonder he is doing shows with 1728 01:49:39,540 --> 01:49:42,180 the production budget of $100,000 1729 01:49:42,660 --> 01:49:45,540 You kidding me? That doesn't go very far. 1730 01:49:45,630 --> 01:49:48,570 You know, it's like no, this is not going to last this is not 1731 01:49:48,570 --> 01:49:49,260 gonna last 1732 01:49:49,469 --> 01:49:51,569 and then you have the union's trying to take a piece of the 1733 01:49:51,780 --> 01:49:56,640 Oh, the union everyone's unionizing. Yeah it's it's I 1734 01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,370 just feel bad because phony would you know, it's like, oh, 1735 01:49:59,370 --> 01:50:01,560 we're all like We're doing productions and we're getting 1736 01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:08,550 great distribution. No, you're not. It's a, it's a mirage. The 1737 01:50:08,550 --> 01:50:12,960 Rogen and a couple of these big deals this mirage. That's not 1738 01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:15,450 That's not where it's not where it's going to wind up, the 1739 01:50:15,450 --> 01:50:18,030 budgets are going to stop, they're going to clamp down, 1740 01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:22,380 because the money is just not there. I'm just going to keep 1741 01:50:22,380 --> 01:50:28,740 saying it. But show me the profit. And now you know, cheap 1742 01:50:28,740 --> 01:50:31,950 money is over use of you get money for free, borrow it for 1743 01:50:31,950 --> 01:50:35,010 free. If you're a corporation that debts now it's costing 1744 01:50:35,010 --> 01:50:37,830 actual, you know, as interest rates go up, it's costing money 1745 01:50:37,830 --> 01:50:41,220 again. Oh, okay. Well, maybe we don't spend so much. Thank you. 1746 01:50:44,910 --> 01:50:49,230 Thank you, I think we got enough. To wrap it up. Yeah, the 1747 01:50:49,230 --> 01:50:52,530 only thing I wanted to mention is Umbral has something kind of 1748 01:50:52,530 --> 01:50:57,390 interesting, which is the Agora project, which is an app when 1749 01:50:57,390 --> 01:51:02,310 you install it, you can you can specify a directory and you can 1750 01:51:02,310 --> 01:51:07,260 put files in there. And people have to pay to download the file 1751 01:51:07,260 --> 01:51:11,220 or you can also have a, like a free test, and then you can get 1752 01:51:11,220 --> 01:51:14,700 an invoice later. It's kind of interesting. It's not quite what 1753 01:51:14,700 --> 01:51:18,570 we need, but it's just, I thought was kind of fun. You 1754 01:51:18,570 --> 01:51:20,760 know, Hey, you want this file? You can download it if you pay 1755 01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:21,810 me 500 SATs 1756 01:51:22,260 --> 01:51:24,510 was Zelicah LSAT thing, or 1757 01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:30,780 I'm not quite sure how it works. But it works. It does work. does 1758 01:51:30,780 --> 01:51:31,170 work? 1759 01:51:31,620 --> 01:51:34,890 I've got I've got a couple of ideas on what I'm going to be 1760 01:51:34,890 --> 01:51:39,000 kind of working on this week. And one of them I definitely 1761 01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:42,360 want to discuss next week. But it's a big topics, I think, I 1762 01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:43,620 think are too long for me 1763 01:51:43,620 --> 01:51:47,010 want to just tease it so we can people can start getting mad 1764 01:51:47,010 --> 01:51:47,430 about it. 1765 01:51:49,500 --> 01:51:57,180 Yeah. Yes, that sounds like a fantastic. Opening the API. We 1766 01:51:57,180 --> 01:52:01,980 talked about this once before. So this is we talked about this 1767 01:52:01,980 --> 01:52:06,360 probably over a year ago. Is do we open the API to where it 1768 01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:10,860 doesn't need authentication? Authentication keys? Yes. And, 1769 01:52:11,340 --> 01:52:19,050 and part of that would be creating also a version two of 1770 01:52:19,050 --> 01:52:23,910 the API that has this fully restful. So what we have now is 1771 01:52:23,910 --> 01:52:27,570 not really a RESTful API. It's, it's sort of the Hi, Mina like 1772 01:52:27,570 --> 01:52:27,750 this. 1773 01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:33,780 So Do do you typically like pain in your life? Is this why you 1774 01:52:33,780 --> 01:52:37,440 figured this would be a good project to embark on to open the 1775 01:52:37,440 --> 01:52:40,650 API and aversion to and restful? 1776 01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:42,090 Yes, sounds really easy. 1777 01:52:42,510 --> 01:52:47,610 Yeah. Let me give that up for you, baby. David. Oh, wow. Okay, 1778 01:52:47,610 --> 01:52:49,530 that is a big one. Well, that's why I 1779 01:52:49,530 --> 01:52:51,660 want to talk about I want to talk about don't talk about if 1780 01:52:51,660 --> 01:52:57,930 we want to do it. Everything in I kind of think we should but I 1781 01:52:57,930 --> 01:53:02,730 want to talk it out. Let's talk about let's talk let's talk but 1782 01:53:02,730 --> 01:53:03,840 before we do that, yeah. 1783 01:53:04,830 --> 01:53:08,640 Yeah, good idea. Oh, man. This is this has been a very 1784 01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:13,860 successful a boost. sesh boost. A lot of booster grams. Come 1785 01:53:13,860 --> 01:53:14,190 okay, I 1786 01:53:14,190 --> 01:53:15,000 said, Dev. 1787 01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:21,180 Dev, you can have a dev stash. That's even funnier. Guys, they 1788 01:53:21,180 --> 01:53:24,660 just have a dev stash. It's like a hackathon. Only cooler. 1789 01:53:25,260 --> 01:53:28,500 A hack. Everything's cooler than a hackathon. Oh, my 1790 01:53:28,500 --> 01:53:33,540 brother. I know. We're both tired. But we've covered a lot 1791 01:53:33,540 --> 01:53:34,140 of ground. 1792 01:53:34,980 --> 01:53:37,830 Well, the this shows get the shows getting more interesting 1793 01:53:37,830 --> 01:53:39,480 when we're tired because they make less sense. 1794 01:53:39,509 --> 01:53:42,509 Yeah. Do we have some guests coming in the next few weeks? I 1795 01:53:42,509 --> 01:53:44,549 think it's time to bring in some people again, don't you think? 1796 01:53:44,699 --> 01:53:47,579 By the way, I saw you like, Oh, Dan J. Lewis, we need to have 1797 01:53:47,579 --> 01:53:50,009 you on again. Well, you know, that means he's going to be 1798 01:53:50,039 --> 01:53:53,669 emailing me every week. This week. Can I be on the show? 1799 01:53:57,810 --> 01:54:03,630 Yeah, we're gonna we need to get like three days for for people 1800 01:54:03,630 --> 01:54:06,420 to have on the show in the next next couple of months. Good. 1801 01:54:06,450 --> 01:54:09,540 Good, good, good. Yeah, I've got I'm starting to line them up now 1802 01:54:09,570 --> 01:54:14,430 started today. But I want it held off because I didn't know 1803 01:54:14,430 --> 01:54:17,160 what was happening with granting everything right. But, but now 1804 01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:22,110 that that's pretty much yes. I think we can bring some people 1805 01:54:22,110 --> 01:54:24,420 back in and not have a risk of having to cancel the last 1806 01:54:24,420 --> 01:54:24,690 second. 1807 01:54:25,019 --> 01:54:28,169 Well, it's I'm glad everything's well with Grant. I'm glad to 1808 01:54:28,169 --> 01:54:32,399 have you past the hump in, in the big financial world. And, 1809 01:54:32,819 --> 01:54:35,819 and back on the stick man. And I mean, I'm in it myself, you 1810 01:54:35,819 --> 01:54:40,199 know, kick my daughter out on Monday and I'm full time as she 1811 01:54:40,199 --> 01:54:42,809 is she's still there. Yeah, she's staying here until Monday 1812 01:54:42,839 --> 01:54:44,999 till Monday. Yeah, but she's great. She cooks she does all 1813 01:54:44,999 --> 01:54:45,929 kinds of cool stuff. 1814 01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:47,730 Then I can have you all to myself, baby. 1815 01:54:47,759 --> 01:54:52,199 Yes, yes. Yes, yes. All right. You can have me every single 1816 01:54:52,199 --> 01:54:57,119 Friday, David Jones. Have a great weekend. We'll see you 1817 01:54:57,119 --> 01:54:57,989 next week everybody. 1818 01:55:13,769 --> 01:55:18,329 You have been listening to podcasting 2.0 to visit podcast 1819 01:55:18,329 --> 01:55:20,879 index.org For more information