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Today in the show, we are gonna take you to not one but 2 studio
setups. We are chatting with Brooke Robichaud and Nate Kelly,
the host of Podcasting Tech for the Digital Entrepreneur, and
they both host some other Podcasting beyond that, which we'll have links to all that
in the show notes. Nate and Brooke, thank you for joining us today.
Thanks for having us. Yes. And and
the way Nate says, hey. We've we've worked before. We've, been on each
other's podcast more than once. So there's a little bit of a reunion going
on. Way back. So way back. So,
Nate, I know you started with, the sobriety
diaries, but take us just a little bit quickly. Like, what
has been the evolution of your podcast journey since then?
Yeah. So, you know, by
God's grace and, I think, the universe working
in my favor and a lot of hard work, I had some
traction with the sobriety diaries right away and,
you know, really started to realize
my passion in the industry. And Brooke and I have
very similar stories and
sorry. Brooke and I have very similar stories, and we laugh about
it now because both of us kind of played talk show
in our bedrooms growing up and always, you know,
wanted to be behind a microphone and interviewing
people. So when I look back at it that way, I think
it was just part of my my destiny to, you know,
be, sort of helping others to
find their voice and tell their story. So when I had that success with
the sobriety diaries, I I kinda started to develop a
framework and develop outlines
and resources to help others to to achieve that
success with launching a podcast. Brooke and I were introduced to
one another through the sobriety diaries. She came on the show and shared her
story and, you know, found ourselves really drawn to
one another and have collaborated over the years,
within our own businesses and on other shows.
And finally just decided a few months ago to kind of put our
heads together and help other and help other digital
entrepreneurs, utilize podcasting as
a, you know, a stream of revenue
or a way to market their business,
tech, kind of all of the above. And, you
know, we had success with this show as well. So,
we we like to think that we're in the right spot and, are
are very grateful to be sharing our our story today with you.
Nice. And, Brooke, I I know you do more
than just, Unplugged. Tell us a little bit more about your,
like, expansive, you know, podcast career right now.
Well, my podcast career really started, after
nights of drinking with my friends. And, like Nick was saying, if it's something I've
always really loved doing. It's like being behind a camera, being behind a mic or,
you know, creating things, making films, just trying to create
worlds outside of myself and and find new ways to share. I don't know
why I was given that passion, but it was given to me. And,
yeah. So I started with my friends. We just, like, goof around. We'd make little
mix clouds Podcasting, and my grandma would listen. And,
I would, like, you know, give a shout out to my grandma every time we're
doing a podcast. She's like, how did you know I was listening? Can you see
me? Like, no. But I just
Samson. And, you know, that passion
really exploded when I got sober. I just wanted to find a way to get
a message out into the world. And, you know, I tried my hand in blogging
and different, content creation tools, but podcasting became
a little bit more easier to get into. There were some
new software that came out, Podbean being one of them,
that was like, you just use that software and you can get your message
out there. I didn't have any fancy equipment or anything to start, but I,
had gotten a real big health and wellness journey. I had gotten sober
and I lost £80, and everyone was asking me, like, how did you do this?
So I started sharing tips and tools and and stuff through that, and then that
transformed into a podcast called Seek Purpose,
which was about finding purpose after addiction and trauma. I
met incredible people through that. And,
unfortunately, after showing that pen the pandemic
happened, everything shut down. Fortunately for us, because we ended up going online and meeting
people from all over the world and not just in our little area. But, during
that time, my little brother passed away and, you know, it got
really hard to share stories of
overcoming trauma and addiction, all that kind of stuff when I just lost my brother
to addiction. He was, like, 23. So I've I put that
down and I started helping entrepreneurs in recovery start
their own businesses. And I started the Sober Biz Collective and
the Sober Biz Collective podcast where I Tech to sober entrepreneurs. I Kelly
Nate with his website and helping him, like, just, you know,
feel really confident about his brand and what he's putting out there. And, through
that, I've just met so many incredible people. And now me and my girlfriends have
gotten together, and we're starting a show that's all it's called the Nate Girls Club,
and we're just talking about things that are,
relevant today to our community around, like, self esteem and self
worth and dating and relationships and marriage and just
all that kind of stuff and sharing our friendships with the world and
these deep conversations that we get to have as a community of women that, like,
heal together. We just wanna, like, share that openly. It's
so funny how many people, once they have a single
podcast and they find just a little bit of success, how
quickly they are into their 2nd, 3rd, 4th. You know? They're doing
That's true. 7 shows, every day. They're, you know, recording a different podcast, and
they just get seriously into it. So, that is very, very
cool. So take us through now
your Tech stack. So what are you using? What's the microphone?
I know for this call, you're using your microphone a little bit differently, but what's
your normal setup like, Brooke? Well, I just
got the Rodecaster Pro 2 because our our warranty
was actually up. I'm gonna give Rode a big shout out right now because our
warranty was far beyond, what it was supposed to be by
beyond the 2 years. And, our power button stopped
working on our original Rodecaster,
pro. So we sent it in, and they sent us a brand new Rodecaster
Pro 2. The reason why I'm not plugged into it right now is because
we're still figuring out all the, maybe, great details on how to make
sure it functions properly. But I absolutely love it so
far. I've been actually taking it on the road with me when we're doing the
nice girls club. I've gone to a couple of my friends' house, and we just
plug microphones in there. I can record right onto the board. So it's
been a really cool tool. And then I've got the
Shure MV7. I absolutely love
this microphone. It has the XLR input, and it can go right into my
computer, which just saved my butt today. So
it's pretty phenomenal. And, yeah, I think they're just a g
headphones. I I I've had these since I just started
podcasting, and they've lasted forever. They're I love
a good set of headphones. It just changes the
experience. So Yeah. As someone who works in radio and have to
wear headphones all the time, the right pair of headphones is
great. Although, more recently, I've decided to just go with, like, these,
you know, in ear monitors. Just Yeah. I just felt less claustrophobic,
than when I was wearing huge cans around my head. And I I believe earlier
you said you're just using your laptop built in camera,
but you have some lights helping you out there? I do. Yeah. So I'm
I love Elgato. They my husband's a video game streamer,
so he he, put me on to them. And now
I wanna buy all of their stuff. I have, like, the arm holding up my
little fancy camera. I've got a Canon RP as well that I use for the
nice girls club, and my husband uses for streaming. And so we've got
one of their arms there, and then I've got 2. I've got a lights. I've
got the ring light and the key light set up as well. They're phenomenal,
and I I really just like sticking to one brand so I can just have
one app to control them. You know?
Tech. So smart. And and I know you said when you
first started, you didn't even have a microphone. What was the first mic you ever
got? It was the first mic I ever bought. Yeah.
Ah, that's a great question. We we Brooke
the Rode Nate t 1 a microphone because
yeah. I was doing a lot of,
Kelly karaoke singer as well. Sings too, Mathew. No
no bounds. They're endless. I have endless talents. I can make up,
parodies of popular songs. I can it's pretty, magical.
That is that is an expensive first mic, and and my experience with it is
that it sounded so good. The problem was it was too good, and it was
just picking up noises from, you know, 3 blocks away in my
little apartment at the time. So, yeah, I had I had to move on from
it. But, yeah, that's a that's a quality first, Mike. And, Nate, what about you?
What are you using today for, your podcasting purposes?
We have the, the RODE PodMic
USB. So they just upgraded
I don't know if it's upgraded. They've enhanced, the
first rendition of the PodMic was XLR only.
And, you know, it Brooke so
cool. I always wanted it, but as I think Tech came out
when I was very a very new podcaster and wasn't really
sure about connections or, you know, the
Cloudlifter and all that, so I never bought it. So when they came out with
the USB version, I jumped on that. And to Brooke'
point, I love the sort of compatibility of it,
you know, to be able to kind of evolve with it if if you
do transition to the XLR side of things. It does have
the headphone jack and, built in
volume control on the back of the mic as well.
Brooke and I, she mentioned Elgato. We both have the low
profile boom arm that we're obsessed with for the
mics. It it is, you know,
as opposed to a boom arm that Tech comes down and kinda takes
up your vertical real Nate. Really
obsessed with the Elgato low profile.
The camera, you know, we were talking a bit before we started
recording. I have not fully committed to
a DSLR or mirrorless camera yet. So,
the best webcam that I found that I'm on right now is the
OBSPOT 4 k Meet, and it does have
some AI capabilities as well, some facial tracking.
And if you download the app, there are,
some temperature controls and some autofocus
and white balance options that you can control through
the app on your desktop as well. So a little more advanced
than your your typical, you know, Logitech or or a typical
webcam that you can find. So it's a little pricier, but I I
really like the crispness and,
kind of the personalization that you can do with the
HubSpot. So big fan of of them. So that's
my setup for today. Still have my
Samsung q 2u very close by. I will never
part of it. It's more of like
a a comfort, that I have there for
for always, forever and always.
Well, when I was in broadcasting, we had an engineer. I I don't think
he was in the armed forces, but he always kinda stole the thing that
2 is 1 and 1 is Nate. Meaning, you always have to have a
backup. Because, you know, in Podcasting,
if something goes wrong, you have a problem. And we, you know, we could not
not be broadcasting. So I like the idea that both of you kinda
have backup situations for yourself, you know, with the m b 7
being able to switch over to USB, you having your secondary mic
there. I mean, if they're on camera, I can't tell what you know, I've got
a few hanging up here that, I could plug in in a in a pinch
if I need to. And I love that low profile arm. If I
wasn't so invested in this road one, that's really good, I would definitely try and
get my hands on one of those. So, really nice
Tech. And just the overall aesthetics of both of your studios are really nice.
It seems like you kinda match the vibe a little bit with each other when
you were doing that, or is it just coincidence? It was not a coincidence.
No. We definitely don't. We
wanted it to feel Yeah. That was actually something we thought about. Thought about it
a lot. We are an international podcast, Mathew. So we wanted
it to feel though as if we are in a studio together or, you
know, that we did put some thought into it and, it's cohesive as
a Brooke. And, yeah, it there it was definitely
not a coincidence. Very cool.
So, we'll have some pictures of their studio setups. You can check
it out. We'll have links to all the equipment that they're using. You can obviously
see and hear their setups, and, they are really, really great.
So thank you for that. Before we let you go, just a couple of questions
we're asking everybody on the show, and I'll kinda have each of you
answer. But is there any tech
that's on your wish list? In other words, is there a piece of equipment that
you're like, oh, I cannot Nate, or I'm saving up to get this,
or I cannot wait till they produce that. Brooke, what anything you're
looking looking forward to? Yeah. I'm really wanting to
upgrade my videography situation.
Love the medium of video podcasting of, of
creating content and all that kind of stuff. I have a pretty good little mirrorless
DSLR. It's full frame. It's the Samson RP, EOS
RP. It's amazing, but it is like
the entry level version, and I'd really like to get a step up, maybe get
the r 6 or the r 5. It'd be a little bit more
pricey. It'd take up almost my entire budget if we end up getting a
grant. But but the r Tech is really nice. So the Canon
r six, I really wanna get. And, I would
probably add to my microphone collection. I actually really love this this microphone,
the f the m v 7. I would like to get a couple more of
them. I have some other mics for my guests and stuff when we do in
studio stuff, but just to have everything sound the same, I definitely like to
pick up a couple more of these. They've been amazing. Like, this mic is
it's been phenomenal. So, yeah, liking it. Yeah. That m v
7, when they introduced that, that was a a real game changer, especially because
everybody wanted that SM 7 b, that iconic look. And,
you know, it's a great mic, but it often requires a little bit
more tech and know how and knowledge to be able to use it correctly.
And then they come out with that. That's just, you know, plug and play or
still excellent. I still love that, you know, classic Brooke. And, yeah, it's a it's
a really nice product. What about you, Nate? Anything on your wish list? I mean,
I know, you're mentioning camera as well, but is there anything else out there
that you're, eager to get your hands on?
Yeah. I think, you know, an all in one
option, I think, with an XLR input and
4 k video that
is user friendly. You know, I am
not as video heavy of a geek as I
am on the audio side. So I have a little more research to do, I
guess. But I think that all in one option would be a game changer
for new podcasters and, you know, even some
some veteran folks who want to, you know, dive
into the side of of video
Podcasting think it's,
easier to develop something for that, I'll make sure to, see
what I'm doing. So if you need guinea pigs or Tech Is there any
place in podcasting in general in
the trends, the technology, just the space, right, of
podcasting that you'd like to see improvement or, you know,
other maybe software solutions that would that would help you in your
journey? Nate, why don't you go first this time?
Wow. That's a great question.
Let me think. Brooke, do you have anything on the top of your head?
I think definitely with AI, I have a feeling editing is
gonna become easier soon, and I would really love
to see that be streamlined and simplified and just, like, plug and
play, because that can be the most time consuming piece of trying to
get content out there and stuff is, like, sitting and editing and creating content for
social media and stuff. So I know there's a couple of tools out there that
are they're getting it, and I've I've used a couple of, trials
for I wish I could think of the name on top of my head because
I just see them pop up, and then I I do their, like, 7 day
trial. There's some pretty cool stuff where they'll take your long form video off YouTube
and make short form clips for social media and stuff. I love that, but I
can see that it needs to get better. The
output of video quality needs to be better for those, for sure.
And just right now, there's things like CapCut that help
with with transcribing your video and stuff, and they have some cool
I IT IT AI tools where it'll
switch back and forth from the people who are talking, but it's just not there
yet. Like, they it just is very glitchy, and it doesn't always
capture the right person who's talking. So I'd love to see the tools that are
being developed just get so much easier and,
better than they Nate, and I have no doubt by the end of the year,
probably they will be. And I'm really excited just to see how AI
can really simplify this for people that are
finding the editing side being a challenge or trying to
create content from their from their content a challenge. So,
lastly, what podcast besides the ones that you guys produce are you listening to?
Like, what's that go to show every time that one,
downloads or shows up, you're gonna listen to it right away. I have a couple.
Yeah. Someone was embarrassed. The first podcast I fell in love
with and still listen to every week is My Favorite Murder.
If you're a podcast listener, I'm sure I'm sure you know Karen in
Georgia. Still download and listen every
week, and I'm a murderer now, I can
say. I also listen to the
Tech every day.
Totally not in my genre, but, I'm kind of
a fangirl of both of those shows.
What about you, Brooke? Well, every Sunday
night before I go to bed, I'm listening to Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend, and
I love that show. So just I just started the archive because I only started
listening this year, and I went back all the way to the beginning. So good.
It's so bad. Yeah. I love it. I love it. I don't know what it
is about Conan, but it helps you fall asleep at night. So he's been my
go to, and then I'll, like, relisten to it during the day when I'm doing
the dishes or something, because I'll fall asleep eventually. And
I would appreciate you saying you fell asleep to him. Yeah. I hope
so. Conan, if you're watching this, thank you for all the good
nights of sleep. The other ones
okay. I'm really there's been a lot of
Podcasting popping up about TV shows I watched when I was in, like, my late
teens, early twenties, like, the early 2000. Like, there's one
about, The OC, and then Nate Tree Hill just started a
podcast where all the old cast are coming together, rewatching shows, and I
am just obsessed. I've been, like, watching everything.
I just rewatched all of 1 Tree Hill, which was 9 seasons and
took me an entire month. I'm not proud of
it, but it was, like, so good. And
then to hear the cast talking about, like, the show and just it was
so nostalgic too because you're remembering watching this. So I I'm really enjoying
that stuff right now. Very cool. Well, once again, we have
been chatting with Brooke Robichaux and Nate Kelly. They are the hosts of
Unplugged Podcasting Tech for the Digital Entrepreneur as well as
several other podcast ventures. We'll have links to them and all the stuff that they're
doing here in the show notes. Nate and Brooke, thank you so much for joining
today. Much, Mathew. Thanks, Mathew. This is awesome.
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Best Selling Author and Founder of Podcast Revolution Studios
Meet Nate Kelly, the podcasting pro, published author, and captivating speaker, on a mission to empower people to reach their podcasting potential. Through mentorship, transformative courses, and his new book, "The Podcast Revolution," Nate guides individuals in crafting compelling podcasts.
Beyond the microphone, Nate's story is one of resilience and personal growth. As a recovering alcoholic who faced a life-altering alcohol-related stroke at age 32, he now dedicates his platform to sharing the stories of others in recovery. His goal is to inspire and support those still struggling while helping them embrace their authentic selves. Through "The Sobriety Diaries" podcast, Nate shares powerful stories of recovery from a queer perspective, offering hope and encouragement to those seeking a path to healing and self-discovery.
Founder of the Sober Biz Collective & Digital Design Coach
Brooke is the founder of the Sober Biz Collective and helps digital entrepreneurs design a cohesive online presence and Nate recently released his first book "The Podcast Revolution: Unleash Your Voice with a Simple Framework to Launch & Monetize Your Podcast, Ignite Your Influence & Dominate Your Niche" which became an immediate best-seller on Amazon and is now available in paperback in all online catalogs.