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so you want to talk about our backslides?
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Yeah, or probably don't want to talk about it, but we're gonna talk about it.
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I mean, I, I think it's it's important to talk about the backslide.
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I so, just so you guys know, like, what a backslide is, and so essentially is that we're rocking, like we're doing great habits-wise in the sense of that eating good, working out, you know being very constructive with our time and you know really feeling so great about it like ourselves.
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And it was just a difficult time happened and we let it become an excuse which then led to us having a backslide.
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Yeah, so we went through like kind of a tough time in our personal lives and back towards the beginning of February.
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So we're going on about two months ago now and we have not recovered.
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It's not funny obviously I think I think it's like funny, because like it's not funny, but I think it's.
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It's kind of like it's not funny, but I think it's kind of like we have to laugh at the fact that we now realize that in this backslide, you know, it has only made it harder.
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Yeah, of course, right.
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So I've talked before on the podcast about how I did 75 hard and obviously anyone who knows knows it's a really difficult thing to complete and it's so much hard work, right, and I was doing great and I kind of took the month of January off just to, like you know, let my body recoup from double workouts every day and stuff like that and I but I was still eating really healthy, I was still walking, all those things, and so I maintained and everything throughout January and then at the beginning of February was when that that thing kind of happened and I am such an emotional eater and it's something that I'm trying to deconstruct in my mind and I I have some ideas on why I'm such an emotional eater.
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Um, food's definitely a comfort for me.
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Like I grew up in a family, that food was like really important, right, I mean it still is right.
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You and I kind of like we started kind of processing through that like, because obviously we associate food with a good time because of like, especially with like your family, like you know, everyone gets together and in is on Sundays and it's like the whole family's there and so it's just nothing but right and like associate the good food with that and so yeah, like we always had dinner together as a family in my house and then, like once or twice a week, we would go eat at Nana's and Nana always had food and you know, nana was such a good cook.
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It is such a good cook and I think, um, I love food, like I grew up eating like really good homemade food and I've always just, you know some people, like my mom as an example, like she just eats to live, but like I live to eat, like right, and I'm one of those people that when I'm sad, when I'm upset, I want to eat, I want the comfort of eating, and it's disordered and it's something I really need to break down and like try to recognize it as I do it.
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But when that happened in our, in our lives, like I ate and ate and ate and eight, and I stopped exercising consistently, I still would kind of like, here or there, go for a walk, like you know, whatever.
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I lost 25 pounds when I did 75 hard, which was brought me down to 50 pounds total from my highest, but I still wanted to lose another 25, you know, and it took me 75 days to lose 25 pounds and, like I've said to you a few times, like it literally takes like five days, five days to put on five pounds.
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You know you can just do it so easily and you know now I'm kind of back in that same place that I was prior to doing 75 hard of gaining and losing the same five pounds over and over again.
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And space of that rut.
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Like you, just yourself, in like this fucking rut again and, like you know, like for me, I you know, when February happened, I didn't, I don't know, it was so tough, Like I think, I tried to block it out and then subconsciously it just absolutely derailed me.
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Yeah, I think it was creeping in where you didn't even realize it, correct?
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And so, like I was just trying my hardest to keep everything together, Because obviously it's like you know, I'm the man, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm the father, I'm the husband, like I'm, I'm trying to stay strong for everybody.
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And so I'm just like I, I don't have a, I don't have the time right now to be emotional, right, I just need to just be strong.
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And it put me in such a mental fog that I just just like you, it's like I, like you know, I love food, like, like food is like a comfort to me, right, and cause that brings me joy in a sense, cause I associate it with good things and things.
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And you know, I'll never forget, like getting back, like that day, and I'm like I'm ordering a calzone right and that like.
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And just just so everyone knows, like leading up to that week I mean leading up to that day you had been on a very, very strict diet oh my god remember like I was making, like very specifically measuring out chicken breast, like measuring out broccoli, like yeah, like I literally ate the same thing every single day at the same time, every single day.
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It was like regimented, like I waited, I weighed out everything.
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It was this is what I was eating, that was it.
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And you know I, I gave myself the excuse in the sense of, like you know, life is so hard right now.
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I just I can't.
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Life is so hard that I just need something to be easy.
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And it was a cop-out, complete and absolute cop-out.
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And in me thinking that right, in me thinking, well, this is like life's so hard right now, I see something to be easy that I took an easy way out, so much to think, but it only made, it only amplified everything.
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Because now, all these good habits that was developing, like how I was feeling good, because I was eating right, and like I didn't feel like ass, like like I didn't feel so weighted down, like or so so bogged down, um me working out, like I had energy.
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Then I went, you know I stopped working out.
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So then, therefore, I started feeling tired.
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I started like, oh man, like I started feeling so bogged down and at that point now, like you're just backsliding, like one thing, I can honestly say that that we didn't do that.
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We didn't drink again yeah, I was gonna bring that up.
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I am really proud of us for not being like you know what I need?
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A drink, because if ever there was a time, right and like.
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for me, what was crazy was that like I didn't get the cravings to drink.
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I never had cravings leading up to that, but there was times like I'm like man, I just want a bourbon.
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Yeah.
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Like it was just like.
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That was like kind of like one of those things I'm just like and it's such a slippery slope, like it's just kind of like now.
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Like you're just like now, like you're falling down the mountain, you're just clawing and you're just trying not to freaking, but like you're just going down and and it's just so tough and it's like it's just obviously.
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It's something that like we're not holding each other accountable because we're like we understand one another.
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It's just like you're sad, I'm sad and like we're just like we're coping and this is how we're coping right, but in using those skills no sorry, those are not skills.
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Those are not skills that we should be using to cope.
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Right because by doing the easier things and those moments, we're making it harder.
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Right because, for me personally, like when I eat like shit and I don't work out, that's when my anxiety and my overstimulation kick back in.
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So my anxiety is already here from the situation that we're going through and it's just lingering here.
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Now I'm eating like shit and I'm not working out and it's like I'm surprised you can't see it coming out of my head yeah, it's just compounding, right, and and that's, that's exactly where it was.
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And then, like, for me it's like it would just lead into like because I have like this fog that I'm just kind of like now I can't do the stuff I need to do, and it I realize that it's become harder for me to do the things that I need to do.
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Yeah.
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And so I'm like well, it was already hard enough, as is Like I already have a problem with just focusing on doing the shit that I have to do.
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Now let's amplify it even more because of all these other like I'm basically like shooting myself in the foot, yeah that's what I'm saying.
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We're making things harder for ourselves and thinking that, like, like.
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But you know what it is?
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It's that instant gratification.
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It's that instant gratification of like, well, I can eat this p, I can eat this calzone right now.
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I'm gonna feel good for this fucking five minutes, for the first bite yeah, you know what I'm saying.
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And then like, obviously, because like dairy, like we're getting old now and so like we can't eat fucking dairy now.
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It's like, but it's like little stupid stuff, like that, like and like cheese or something that like.
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All of a sudden we feel like we have a lead weight in our stomachs and there's all these different things and it's just like.
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But then all it is you're just doing is that now you're just feeding yourself more, just so you can just keep on feeling that little hit of like yes, the dopamine hit that that initial hit and that's kind of like like the hardest thing about it and you just notice, right, like when we start eating, like that, when we stop working out, right, then it's like, instead of reading, we're on our phones, you know, instead of like doing something productive, we're, you know, sitting there watching a show or something, when, like, that's not something we would normally do.
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Right for me, it's like I hate the example that we're setting for the kids because it's basically showing them like when things get hard, it's just okay to just give up so it's.
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You know, when you said that, like, I was literally gonna say that like for me, you know, one of my great friends, literally like a brother to me, is John, right and and and John will be on the show eventually.
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But you know, in that I talk to him all the time because, like I mean, he's a huge motivation for me.
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He's in this gym seven days a week killing it.
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The guy's an absolute special, super disciplined, and you know, when I have the backslide he's somebody that kind of like slaps you back, slaps you back and stuff like that.
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I love him for that and it's like I was talking to him and I'm like what's crazy was that when I was at peak, when I was rocking and both killing it.
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I think about how it translated to the girls and how the girls friends like Mia, more specifically Mia would be like she set a huge goal.
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I want to go to Phillips.
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Yep.
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She's going to study help every day.
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She's doing this and she's doing that and she's rocking it.
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I'm going to go work out, I'm going to go get a workout in Rocking it.
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Yeah, like kiddo, like good for you.
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Like, if you want something, you got to work for it.
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Boom, boom, boom.
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Then I noticed that when I backslid, and yeah, I'm supposed to be doing something and I'm not, I noticed that she would then make choices, not do the things that she wanted to do.
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But then here I am saying to her I'm like she's like.
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I'm like she's like, oh, I'm not gonna go to extra help this morning.
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Well, why not?
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Oh, I'm just like tired and stuff like that.
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I'm like, well, you're not gonna get into phillips, if, if, if, you choose to do that, but meanwhile, the choices that we're making aren't putting us closer to our goals.
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Right.
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And then that's when I it hit me and I'm like Do your fucking hippo?
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Like?
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I'm like like what are you even saying right now to this kid?
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Like, who are you to say anything right now?
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Like it's like you're not leading by example, and then that's when it hit me.
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That's when it hit me, then I'm like man, like she was rocking it because she was saying this and like these are conversations I have with John, like and how he is and like and how his kids are with him.
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And then they're like and how his kids are with him, and and and, and then they're like oh yeah, like stuff like that.
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And like I'm like, yeah, like that makes complete sense.
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Like you're leading by example, like, and you know, and his kids are crushing it.
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In that sense, it's like Callie and Sean, like they, they kill it and everything that they're doing too.
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And it's just like, and it's awesome, it's awesome, it's awesome to see.
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And I'm just like man.
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I'm like I am, I'm hurting my kids and not even thinking that I don't only think I'm hurting myself, right, like I don't even think that they're noticing.
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Yeah, right, that they're noticing, but then, like you, like we don't understand, like the ripple effect that it happens from that and they might not even be consciously noticing, but subconsciously they are right, and then that's what I'm saying.
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So it's like for me as as my job as a parent is to notice that and notice it.
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Well, where is that coming from?
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And then like, well, shit, it's me.
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I'm doing yeah, I'm not showing them any different right, like I'm showing them, like this is the way how you handle when things get rough, isn't that?
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crazy too, because so many people parent like that.
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Like all your rooms a mess, like you, your, your room's a disaster.
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Like how can you live like that?
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Meanwhile, yeah, there's.
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Meanwhile they're a slob, yeah, right, it's like how can, how can you expect your kids to do something that you are not?
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doing, doing yourself right they're just human too right, and so it's just like and I think that that's something that you know.
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In that being sense, like now it's.
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It's cause for me to like.
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I want to understand, because the problem is that this is like my cycle, like right, like this is like my ebbs and flows, in the sense of that, like exactly you and I will become cognizant of it, we're fucking done.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, we'll do it and we're doing it, and then all of a sudden, backslide, then we get another freaking burst away.
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Okay, yeah, we're going backslide, and then it's just like it's the same thing and like it's just constant thing.
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So I'm like, this time around, I'm like, no, no, no, the same problem keeps on happening.
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Why is it happening.
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Why is this?
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Why is this a problem?
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Why am I still allowing this to happen?
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So this is the first time that I actually stopped to take a proactive approach in the sense of like okay, you know what I need to address, why I do this.
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Like, why is it that I feel this and I'm so?
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Therefore, it's it's led me to start deep diving into the theory behind it, like in the thoughts behind it, in the process of like you know what I'm making these decisions based on.
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You know my past, or seeing this is well understanding that it's instant gratification.
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Right, that's that.
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That was a big thing for me number one for me is instant gratification, right, because I'm very much like an all-or-nothing person, so like, instead of just implementing small habits that are easy to maintain even when things are rocky in our life.
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You know, I'm either running six miles a day, every day for you know six months, or I'm like, yeah, sit on my ass, yeah, yeah you know, and that's, and that's kind of like one of those things.
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It's like like you and I talked about it, like when we really we got so mad at each like got mad, got mad at ourselves, we're just like what the fuck?
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Like we were doing so well and it's because we want to do better for ourselves and that we're just kind of like you know, it's going to be hard regardless.
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Yeah, it's going to be hard regardless, and that was like like what we realized.
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I'm like we didn't make this any easier for ourselves.
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We made it harder.
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Yeah, like like literally it's like lumping off both of our feet, like it's like we made it so much harder for ourselves.
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And, underneath the guise of like, of like this little feeling for, like you said, that dopamine hit and like I said, it's like in conversations I have with John and like he would say he's like Kyle, he's like me.
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I go seven days a week because I know if I just take one day off, one's gonna lead to two, two's gonna lead to three, two's going to lead to three, three's going to lead to five, and then he's like I'm back in the same place.
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If, the next thing you know, you never go to the gym again, that's me.
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And that's just kind of like how it is.
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It's like we give ourselves these excuses right, and that's what they are.
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It's excuses.
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It's nothing else.
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It's.
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It's an excuse we're giving to ourselves.
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Yeah, we keep breaking promises to ourselves too, that we would never break to anybody else right and like we will let ourselves down before we will let anybody else down, and but it's like the worst way to think.
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It's the worst way.
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It's the worst way to think because it's just like what good are we to those other people if we're not at our best?
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We can only, we would only benefit everybody else that's in our life by us being at our best.
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That's the great thing about it and that's the thing is it's like.
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That's like the mindset that we have to kind of like develop and obviously in being human, right, we're gonna make these mistakes.
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Obviously in being human, it's like, but also, I think, a lot of it's the fact of like us addressing all these past issues and these past traumas and these in us deep diving for a deeper understanding, right, that we're able to kind of like, I think, finally remedy this like, so like, for instance, like for me, what one thing that's been helping me out tremendously and I never thought it would, and this is something I want to share with you I haven't shared it with you yet is reading.
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So I started reading more before.
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I used to give myself a goal of like you know what?
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I'm going to read 15 pages.
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I'm going to read 15 minutes Now.
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I read, to read and let me tell you something.
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I read this book that I'm reading right now.
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It's been helping me out tremendously as well, which is Hidden Potential, the Art of Achieving, the Science of Achieving Greater Things, great book.
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But in that book I remember I told you like when I was a kid I used to love to and I had that imagination that like, as I'm reading this, this book, um, the book is coming to life in my head.
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I have not had that passion since I was a little kid.
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The other day, as I'm reading this book, it came back and I can't tell you how happy it made me.
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As I'm reading this book, it's like the movie is playing in my head, like that imagination is starting to wake up and I felt great and I started realizing I'm like, wow, mike.
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So like John would always tell me he's like bro, he's like, wake up, I get my workout in.
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Start the day with a W, yeah.
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And I always hear his voice Like, because, like, while he's out there he's doing his workout, he shares his treadmill pic.
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And start the day with a W, like, I'll share my book pic, yeah, like that's my W Right now, that's my W, like I'm going to be here with him, like that's.
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I know that's my goal Because, like also in doing that, I'll meditate for like 15 minutes.
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Yeah, because you're building that.
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You're building that habit.
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Correct, because I just read a book recently and obviously anyone who knows me knows that I'm a voracious reader but a non-fiction book that I read.
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It's called Atomic Habit and it's basically about how implementing these little tiny behaviors every day can change your life, and it's basically like a building block.
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The example that he uses is he hated to floss, but he, like really needed to start and so he started by flossing one tooth.
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Literally, he would floss one tooth and when he was done, he would cheer for himself.
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Like he would say, like oh my god, you did such a good job, you.
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You flossed that one tooth even though you didn't want to, and the next thing you knew he was flossing every tooth.
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Like you know what I mean.
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Eventually, right.
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So, like, obviously your goal is to like get where John is, like fitness wise, right, but like you're building you're you're stacking habits, right.
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Like you're building those smaller habits to be able to get to that point, right.
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Right, and so like and like the way, how, like my book that I'm reading, it's called scaffolding.
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So it's a book, yeah, today's next chapter follower.
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But you know, like the friends, like in my book, it's like building scaffold.
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But also the way in how scaffolding is building, is that not so much as you yourself it's also scaffolding?
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Could be people so like for me, john's a scaffold, like he, he's somebody that he supports me in, in, in, in those times, and so, like you know, like I tell him like, almost like, like, whenever him and I talk, like how much I appreciate him because I get he helps me out immensely, mentality, wise, um, but in building that scaffolding, right.
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So it's like in how it's.
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Now it's translating to me.
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I've noticed that if I start my day with reading the book, I I'll read probably about 30 pages, 30 to 45 pages.
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Now, 30 to 45 pages, yeah, like that was.
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Now.
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I'm like cruising through books, yeah, and for me that was unheard of.
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I just couldn't do it.
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My attention span never lasted for that being, never lasted for that.
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And now I notice that the days that I would read, then I'll go into the car rather than listen to music or whatever or sit in silence, I'll put on another book, put on an audio book, I'll finish my other books and I'll go wow, like I'm taking in information, right.
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But then I realized that in doing that it's helped me out with feeling more confident in speaking.
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It's I definitely feel that I can articulate things a lot better.
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I'm not I don't feel myself the need to find words or where I'm stuttering or I'm doing this.
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Doing that, overall it's like much better mental clarity, yeah, and I'm able to have conversations with people in a much different way.
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So I'm like I'm developing something that I with people in a much different way.
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So I'm developing something that I know that when I do my meditations, the guy that I see, there's a guy when I do my meditation, that I see who I am, what I'm going to become.
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I see that person and that person's fit in that suit, addressing crowd and it's telling a story or leading my guys.
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But we're doing something big.
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It's nothing little, we're doing something big.
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That's when I see myself and I just realized so.
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Therefore, all these things that I'm implementing right now with and I never thought in a million years reading and it kind of goes back to a previous chapter.
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We talked about it before on the podcast.
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Like the book that the story gives about um was steve martin, right, yeah, and how he hated writing, yeah, and just had to swallow the frog like I hated, hated reading because I just, I don't know, I just I just couldn't do it and I just, like you know, I just need to do it.
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And just like how john told me, it's a non-negotiable.
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Non-negotiable, like like you're, you need to.
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Just like there's no way for you to bust about it.
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Like you wake up, you go to work, you don't have you don't have a choice, just like I get up and take care of the kids every day, regardless of regardless of how I feel it's a non-negotiable yeah.
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And that's the thing of like.
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I gotta basically tell myself I have no option.
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I have no option if I do not start my day like this, like this.
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It's not a matter of like, an if, because at that point I'm still doing myself, you're giving yourself an out, an out.
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Yeah, it's, I'm starting my day this way, and so, because what was ended up happening?
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Like before, like when we first met, I had no problem waking up at four right after the backslide six yeah, I couldn't.
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I could not jag my ass out of bed right.
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And then it's like the whole thing that like you're waking up and you're describing your phone and you're scrolling, and I've done like I've read so much about this that because scrolling provides you with those dopamine hits that if, for the first hour of the day, first thing you do is you're picking up your phone and you're scrolling, all day you're picking up your phone and you're scrolling all day, your body is in search of that dopamine.
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So it doesn't mean you're picking up your phone all day but maybe you're grabbing something shit to eat because you're looking for that dopamine rush or you're you know what I mean like you're doing something that you know you are.
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That's not good for you, because your body is literally like wanting that dopamine rush yeah, that ends the gratification yeah, so when I was doing 75 hard the first hour of my day I wouldn't even look at my phone.
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Remember I was keeping my phone outside of our bedroom.
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I would set the alarm and so that way I had to get up and I would go get it.
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I kept my phone on just in case any of the kids like needed me or in case of emergency or whatever.
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It was out of the bedroom and for the entire first hour of the day I wouldn't even look at it.
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And you know what's crazy Throughout the day I wouldn't even care about my phone, like I wouldn't know where it was.
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I was reading on my Kindle, so I didn't need it for reading, even like at a red light or something.
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When normally I would pick it up and like scroll through Instagram, I didn't even care to, and it's because I wasn't getting that hit first thing in the day, you know yeah, yeah, no, no, no.
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I did it like when you told me that that was something that I'm like I needed to really work on because, like, for me it's like I'll pick up.
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I do because, like, obviously it's like, like my phone going to sleep mode, I'll get late night texts or I'll get texts from the guys, and so therefore, like, especially if the guys have a nearly start, I'm like all right, like hey, this door is not open.
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This is that the other thing.
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So, like I'm addressing issues or something like that.
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But it was only a problem if I was waking up at 6.
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Exactly, if I went back to waking up at 4.
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You don't need your phone for the first hour, I don't need my phone for those hours.
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So that's when I realized I'm like Jesus Christ, everything's an excuse, everything's an excuse.
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It's an excuse because that's exactly what I'm saying.
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If I went back to starting my day at four, no one's sending me texts.
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Or if I'm getting an email, it's a freaking, it's a shitty email, like it's at the infomercial, even in the middle of the night.
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Exactly, that's the email that you're getting, like I'm not getting anything of any.