Cathy Coppola - Woman on Fire

Dr. Ray: Hello and welcome to Self Talk. I'm your host, Dr. Ray Self. In today's show, I was very privileged to interview Kathy Coppola, a pastor and apostle of an amazing church in Lake Forest California where miracles are taking place, even when people walk in the door they're being instantaneously healed. As soon as they enter the church, miracles, signs and wonders, salvation, you name it, it's happening. Her fire, her passion, is absolutely fascinating and something we need in the church today.

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Dr. Ray: Welcome to Self Talk, I'm your host Dr. Ray Self. I'm very excited today, I have a very special guest on my show, Apostle Kathy Coppola, and she is from Southern California, pastor of the House of Glory Church where God is doing some very amazing things, uh, just incredible things. And so I'm very excited, uh, welcome Apostle, I'm glad you're here.

Apostle Cathy: God bless you, thank you Dr. Ray.

Dr. Ray: Uh, so I know you, you pastor a church called House Of Glory. You say it's Lake Forest California? I get that, get that correct? Um, you have a podcast called Apostolic Fire which is part of the Charisma Podcast Network, you know, and I want you to be able to talk about that. I know you you've, you've pastored uh, you pastor the church, you have a TV show called Mighty… what is it called? Mighty…

Apostle Cathy: Mighty Wind.

Dr. Ray: Mighty Wind. Mighty Wind is your, your TV show, you've authored uh, three books that I know of, probably more than that: Get Up and Lead, Devil Get Your Hands Off, and From Grief to Glory. I'm sure those are available on Amazon and you, you've just got a lot going on. You're uh, you may be a little omnipresent, I don't know… But I felt led to you. Um, I saw your podcast and um, listened to some of it and uh, read about you and just, really felt the Holy Spirit said to have you come on the show.

Dr. Ray: So just before the show, you were telling me that God is doing some amazing things with your church and the Holy Spirit is just really up to some supernatural stuff and I just want to turn it over to you and just, just share what's going on. What's happening at the house of Glory Church?

Apostle Cathy: Okay. Thank you so much, Dr. Ray, and it is my honor to be on this broadcast. Um, my goodness, what is going on with the house of Glory Church? Um, first of all, I just want to start off by saying I am in awe of everything that God is doing and he moves by his Holy Spirit and, and I'm so grateful that he would have me as one that he can move through and that is it. He moves through individuals that are yielded and willing and so what is going on? Well, the power of God is moving. The power of God is moving in incredible ways. Uh, his healings and deliverance, people getting on fire for Jesus, on fire for Christ, living boldly for him. I mean, every single week we're seeing people get saved. You know, one of my prayer, prayers of my heart has been for years, Lord send me the prostitutes, send me the homosexuals, send me those that nobody knows, nobody cares about, nobody understands. They don't know what to do with, their church doesn't know what to do with them, Lord send them because I have a heart to see those that have been so uh, pushed aside, like an outcast, right? Not understood. Um, I have a heart to see them come into the kingdom, like truly come into the kingdom of God where they're going to get set free, they're going to get healed, delivered.

And God is answering that prayer. Even the last couple of weeks we've had transvestites, we've had homosexuals, prostitutes, literally the prayer has been coming to pass and they're getting saved, they're, they're experiencing the power of God, they're seeing it firsthand. They're seeing people's legs grow, they're seeing, you know, um, body parts, like, literally just being healed. Bones coming together, fractures being healed right on, on the spot. They're seeing this and, and you know, and they're giving their lives to Jesus and their hearts that have been fragmented are becoming whole and I believe that is the goa- the goal is, is that our hearts serve him, Jesus Christ.

So what's happening at the church is, is really what God told me in the beginning before I planted it. What it was going to look like, um, there was years of cultivating it and, and that's been happening and now I'm seeing the fruit of what he told me years ago. He said “you will be known for signs and wonders” and, and of course I, when he first told me that I cringed. I was like oh my gosh, look please, really, no. I, I immediately repented those- I realized that was fear of man- “Lord, I want what you want”, and when he has your yes, and he has my yes, he has my daily yes, when he has your yes, uh, there is no limit. The sky is not the limit. There, there's actually no limit and so, you know, when we go to- when I go to a service, you know, and I obviously, you go prepare- your heart prepared, but you also go with the understanding that you are an ambassador of Christ. And so now you're not only coming with your heart prepared, but you're also going to prepare the territory and make sure that you're taking authority over areas that need to be taken authority over.

We rent from another building so therefore I don't have total control as to what happens in and throughout the week. In this place. And so, therefore, when we go it's like military, right? We're like, militant. We go with the understanding of I take authority over that, I bind that thing, I command that thing to go, we release the power of God in that atmosphere. What happens… 

Dr. Ray: This is before the service, right? 

Apostle Cathy: All before.

Dr. Ray: This is prepare- perparing the way.

Apostle Cathy: All before. Preparing the way. I teach my team, you come with a heart prepared. Make sure you're prepared, make sure your heart is prepared, make sure there's no sin, known sin, in your life. Make sure you have clean hands and a pure heart, make sure you come with the understanding you're here to serve. Ministry of servants is servanthood unto the Lord and unto one another so they know that and they come, they come prepared. I expect my team to come early, obviously, an hour, an hour and a half before service starts because there's preparation, right? There's preparation in the spirit that needs to be done beyond just your own heart, so they come prepared so that we can gather together as saints. 

Apostle Cathy: And when, you know, talk about the Mighty Wind with my bro- my TV network is called Mighty Wind. That's because the rushing Mighty Wind in Acts 2, 2, 2, when the Holy Spirit came on the day of Pentecost, the rushing Mighty Wind, well the same is true with every service. The rushing Mighty Wind, the Mighty Wind of God's Holy Spirit wants to be there. He wants to move but he wants you to prepare a place for him, so we prepare that atmosphere. We prepare it by making sure it's clean spiritually clean by making sure that, you know, that God's welcome, his Spirit is welcome. There's worship, worship music but not just any kind of worship music. I'm very selective and a lot of it is praying in the spirit and singing prophetically because you're singing the heart of God right now, like, what's right now. 

And so now we move into, we're now worshiping, we're now, people are walking in and the worship is going. And sound is so important, the sound of heaven because I always tell them your voice is a weapon and so when your voice is pure and holy and your voice now goes forth, you are breaking barriers. Those barriers are on behalf of someone else so that when they walk in, they walk into a a room that they can literally get healed, they can, they can be set free, they can be saved because the work is being done. It is a military, um, like mentality but it's also a lovesick lover of the king mentality. In other words, it's not just all soaking and it's not just all war, it has to be both. It's spirit and truth, right? We have to walk in spirit and truth so we understand the, the truth of the word, we understand the move of the Spirit. So there is this love affair, if you will, when you're singing and worshiping but there's also this taking authority side of it because the devil doesn't just decide to leave until he knows he has to go, so all of this is done as we're worshiping and just- we're praying and people start walking in and the glory starts to hit them at the door.

People are falling out at the door and there's testimony after testimony, they can't even walk into their seat because the glory is so thick in that place, you know, and people are getting electrocuted and on fire for Jesus, like literally trembling and shaking, like they were electrocuted. I mean, it is just- and then stewarding a movement like that. So you know, always eyes on Jesus. Lord, what are you doing? Lord, what do you say? Stepping out, taking those, those risks, stepping out in faith, um, you know. I mean, I'll lay my hands on people, they're just falling over like dominoes coming up testifying. I had a tumor, it's gone. Blind eyes opening, deaf ears being restored, removing, some removing their um, hearing aid and their hearing has been restored. You just- on and on and on and on. Then people that have come back to testify “my cancer is gone, herniated disc”, whatever; just all these different, “it's healed. It's gone.”

Doctor testified. One had a fractured spine, got healed in the glory as I was praying for him, went back, came back three weeks later with medical proof that they, the doctors didn't know what, how in the world this got healed because it was fractured. But you know what, it was healed and they said “I don't know what you did,” but, that he says, “well, this is God”. Of course they don't, they didn't necessarily believe that but we know the truth. It's gone and they have no explanation. So it's stories like this. Of course, people getting delivered from demons all the time. 

You know, when you have that prophetic, um, eyes to see when you have uh, when you're wired this way and God's mantle is upon you as a prophet and, and I believe to be honest with you, this is the giftings that God says every believer, you should all have Mark 16, lay your hands, right? On the sick, they shall be healed but also, you should cast out demons, right? Everyone, so everyone, every single person, and so we have people that are always manifesting and then just getting free. They get free, um, and and we give glory to God. We give glory to God because that's what I believe, um, this is the kingdom work. These are the signs that will follow those who believe. So as far what God is doing right now, he's been doing it. I don't believe this is anything new, um, I believe that God is the same yesterday, today and forever as you do too.

I know, um, but there is definitely an increase. There's definitely an increase of what he promised me years ago. We're seeing it more and more. Part of why I think there's an increase is because more people are getting hungry to what's happening. They're seeing it, they're catching the fire, so it's like you can have one flame and it can be pretty powerful but you start adding other flames to that one flame, you're all of a sudden, you're gonna start having this burning inferno and that's what we have. We have people coming with an expectation. People drive from hours away because they know they have to be in the service. They have to be in the glory and in the fire and in the power of God's presence. So it's incredible and I give him all the glory. I can't wait for next Thursday and next Saturday!

Dr. Ray: You know, what's amazing about this is that I'm not, you know, I should be hearing more of this but you don't hear much of this anymore, you know. I've been around the Charismatic, Spirit-filled movement for a long time and and I remember a lot of these things happening even in my church I had years ago. But this is so refreshing, I mean, you're preparing the way for the coming of the Lord and people are coming with expectant hearts. But not only that, but you have prepared the atmosphere. You have prepared the ground. Now, you have the right sound and you're doing all these things ahead of time so people come into the church. It's, the Lord's already there. He's already moving. That's just amazing. And you know, I wish I could say all churches are doing this but they're not. I mean, I, I love hearing this all.

Apostle Cathy: Yeah, and I, and I look at it like such a, it's such an honor to have this responsibility that God is entrusting me with because he's entrusting me with the lives of people…is what it is. These are the lives of people and what I do or what I don't do even with, you know, my life all week long is going to be evident in that service. So if, if I was to live, half heartedly, double-minded, whatever, which I don't, I mean, I strive to just… because that's my heart. I love Jesus but what you do all week long is what you bring into your service. So you you can't just prove change all of a sudden. 

Dr. Ray: Right.

Apostle Cathy: I mean, that that kind of thing is only going to take you so far and it's only gonna last so long. So the real, authentic- the genuine walk In Christ is what God's looking for and he honors- he's always been looking for that so I find it…to me I look at it like it's a responsibility that God has given me. One that I am so grateful for. The responsibility is investing in the lives of other people. I know what he's done for me, I know that he's taken me from a fearful, timid individual that had no value, no self-worth and was, you know, very dysfunctional in her thinking, you know, and completely transformed me with the love of God, the fire of God's love. Why would I not want to share that with everybody? And it's not something that I just mentally, you know, decide to do. This is coming from like, literally God's power within me. It starts to flow, I can't even describe it any other way other than it's like deep within me. This passion rises up just like this wave of glory ,over- after glory. Wave after wave. And I, I just, I have to help that in- I want to reach, I want to reach out and touch. I, I want to reach out and speak, I want to see them saved, I want to see them delivered and healed. And God honors it. God honors it. So, yeah.

Dr. Ray: I love your passion. I love your passion. I love your zeal. Just listening to you is just, wow, it's just, it's convicting. It really is. It really is convicting. So you had an incredible transformation in your life that brought you to this point. Um, I know because we were talking before the show and I read a little bit about your story. Uh, at one point you were deeply depressed, even suicidal and then you had this major God intervention and it seems like there was a pivotal, pivotal point in your life that helped bring you to this place.

Apostle Cathy: Yes. And you know, all my life I struggled with depression and you know, insecurity of every kind. Um, but it was so like, you know, when I, when I got married and I had already had kids and I was a new believer. I was a very new believer, you know, even at that point, still struggling with depression and suicide. People think you get saved and all your problems go away, that's not true. Uh, you get saved, now you can beat the devil up. Now you get to go and beat the, the devil up. Now you can claim back what's rightfully belongs to you, right? So, and that needs to be taught which I teach on that all the time. Authority, walking in your authority. 

So when I first got saved, I still was struggling with all the depression, suicidal, you know, things. But I knew there was a call of God on my life. I knew that just by the Spirit of God. Just, his revelation. Um, well, you know, the enemy knows that too. And he sees, and he, he hears, and he knows that too. So what happened is my family got severely attacked in every way and, don't get into all the details of it, but hence, From Grief to Glory. From Grief to Glory wasn't just my story, it was what was happening all around, everywhere, right in my home, home life, those that I loved. Um, and so God you know, uh, was was taking me through a place of healing from my own past hurts as well as what was happening in my own home. Um, and he showed me how these things- I was a brand new Christian- he showed me how these things were demons, how depression was a demon. He showed me how um, now, I'm not saying there's no chemical side to this, there is.

But I you know, where you know, I'm, you know, there are other things like chemically. You may be lacking something, you know, hormonally and such. And, but that's an easy fix. But spiritually, this is a spiritual matter. You know, at the core, at the core this is a spiritual matter, and he showed me that I, I, you know, we may get into that if there's time, but bottom line is he showed me how this is a spiritual matter. And so, I, I had been learning about spiritual warfare, a brand new believer, been learning and I decided to put it into practice. To try to test it out. The bible says test the spirits and see if they be true. So I started to test it out and you know what? It was proven correct that this was definitely a demon because immediately, that whole that heaviness, that, like, the thoughts of why don’t you just pull over and kill yourself why don’t you just turn the car, you know, just, all these, you know, the depression. This- everything's just lifted, right?

When I, when I took my authority and used my authority, well, what was happening during this time was my family was all getting attacked. Now, I am awakened to ‘this is a war’, right? So I'm taking authority, I'm seeing things in a new way, right? And I'm, I'm doing this, taking authority, uh, rebuking this and that. But when people choose to go into the depths of sin, they choose to go into the depths of sin and somebody standing in the gap can at least rescue them from at least dying. But that doesn't mean there's not going to be any consequences, right? Because if you choose, if you choose, you know, devastation, then… So, so there- it was, a war. What I'm saying, it was a battle. And it was a battle for many years. It was a battle for many years but I stood, and I stood my ground. Hence, the second book Devil Get Your Hands Off, right?

So he took me from this timid person, healed me in the glory, encounter after encounter after encounter, uh, where I would literally just uh, Jesus came and revealed himself to me. I was dancing with Jesus. Um, he would come, he, I saw his hands. He, he literally embraced me that my feet were on his feet. We, were dancing. I have had, I felt the Father's embrace. He is, he has kissed me, he has spoken my name, he has stroked my hair over and over, so many different things. But when you're broken, when you're broken and you have no one but him, guess what? He shows himself so valiantly, so strong. And he became my husband, he became my everything. And so, you know, at the same time, he’s healing my heart. 

So that, and then, and then, now I'm warring. I'm warring for the kids, warring for the family. And um, you know, from this whole encounter, you know, you know, he moves me into having a prayer meeting. He says “I want you to have a prayer meeting” And I s- I see it all in the spirit. White bold letters, saw it. I just had to obey the heavenly vision, so I did obey the heavenly vision in fear and trembling and you know, seven years later, I can see, you know, the seven, seven years of the prayer meeting. This person got saved, this person’s life’s been turned, life’s been turned around. You know, just victory after victory, you know, started to happen not just from my family but for those that God entrusted me with at that prayer meeting, you know.

And so seven years of that and God says “this is a church”, you know, you're doing worship, you're leading um, you're uh, bringing the Word, you're praying for people. This is a church. And so he had to convince me that it was okay for me to step into that role because I had, I had a faulty mindset thinking I'm only a woman, how can I lead a church? Isn't this unbiblical? Lord, how about those two scriptures? How about that area? And God had to show me that that is so taken out of context and that “I choose whom I choose and don't you let man put you down. When I say go, go”, right? And my oh my heart's always been Lord, I will obey you no matter what. Whatever you tell me. I am the handmaiden of the Lord, let it be done unto me according to your word. 

And so, again, if you're in trembling, God's stretching me again and planting the church House Of Glory which we just spoke about. But yes, my life changed when I had an encounter with Jesus and that encounter with Jesus took me from a timid, insecure, dysfunctional, suicidal, um, person that never- I never spoke, I, didn't have any confidence to speak and if it was more than two people you wouldn't hear a word from me. Um, to that type of an individual that, that was so timid to, to a bold, fiery servant of the Lord that has no limitations. I won't put any limits on the Holy Spirit. He's taught me “do not put limits on me”. I don't…

Dr. Ray: It's just hard to imagine that you were ever timid, ever depressed, ever shy at all. I mean, what a, what a testimony. What a praise, what a praise report. 

Apostle Cathy: I know. You can ask my husband.

Dr. Ray: I can't even imagine. Praise God.

Apostle Cathy: You can ask my husband. I met him at 17. When I was 17. We got married at 19. And you know, we've been married now 36 years and he tells me, we have four children and three grandchildren thus far, and he tells me, he says, “man, you're like a totally different woman.” He's- “so different,” he goes, “you're completely different than how I met you”, because I had a good thing. He goes “yes, it's a good thing”.

Dr. Ray: You know, when God- I just did a little series about restoration and rebuilding. It's like, you know, we've- God doesn't really restore our lives, he rebuilds something brand new. I mean, he does something completely new in you. I mean, you were so far away from that person that it's, you're, it's not even you. You talk about being a new creation…

Apostle Cathy: Right.

Dr. Ray: Yeah.

Apostle Cathy: Total new creation. You know, and along with that, not everybody understands that and that's okay. But you have certain family members, you know, extended family and such that uh, refuse to see or if you refuse to acknowledge because they want you to fit the old mold. That's true with everybody, you know. You love them, you, you speak as God directs you to speak and then honestly, you keep on going because you have a kingdom mindset and you have a job to do for Jesus and you got to keep going. You got to just love them in the process. But you know what? I hate to say it this way but don't throw your pearls to the swine, right? You just have to give what people can handle and then move on because there is something God wants you to do, and don't miss that, right?

Dr. Ray: Sometimes you leave people behind that you really don't want to leave behind. Um, you know, remember the Lord said, you know, “who is my mother and brother? Who are my sisters? Those that do the will of the Father.” And the Lord showed me years ago that sometimes, when you move on with God and God does something, you, in your life, you will actually even sometimes leave family behind. But he sends you new family.

Apostle Cathy: Yeah.

Dr. Ray: He sends you new people, you know, that understand you and get it. Um, it's a, it's a, it's a sad thing but it's also a really good thing. It is a good thing.

Apostle Cathy: Yeah. You know, years ago when we first got, well we weren't saved yet. We were first married and the Lord said, well, I heard the voice of the Lord. I was not saved yet but I heard God say “move to California” He said “Cathy, move to California, I'm doing a new thing” And uh, we were raised, I was Catholic so I had a fear of God but not a relationship with him. But I knew that it was his voice. I knew before I even knew him personally. I knew it was his voice and we did step out and we did move and everyone thought we were absolutely, completely crazy. Um, but it was the right move. And God- here, we got saved. Here is where life completely transformed and we became- and we are who God is calling us to be. Sometimes he requires you to be removed from a situation that will not allow you to change. There are certain dynamics that for whatever reason, you're not going to be able to be who God calls you to be and for our case, we had to literally move 400 miles away.

Dr. Ray: Yeah, I…

Apostle Cathy: It was difficult but we did it.

Dr. Ray: It is difficult. The Lord moved me years ago from Memphis Tennessee to Orlando Florida and I'm like, why Orlando? I mean, why would I come to Orlando? I mean, if I'm going to go to Florida, I want to go to the beach. I want to live on the beach but uh, and he moved me. And then all of a sudden, the exceedingly, abundantly more than you can ever think or ask for began to happen, and when you begin to see the reason- Looking back over the last 15 years, um, I love your passion, I love your zeal. I also love, you know, when I listen to you talk it's really not about you, it's about God healing others and God restoring other people and God saving other people and God healing a blind eye and, and healing a broken leg, a broken foot. And it's like your passion, you know, is about other people. I've almost, I always tell my students that your call is always about others. It's not about you, it's about, it's about the people God has assigned to you and I see that in you your passion and your love for those that are being touched by God because when, when you talk, it's always about what God's doing for all these other people and you too, but your heart and your love and your passion to see people experience the glory and healing and real reality of God is amazing.

Apostle Cathy: Yeah. Yeah. I think that it's, you know, um, I think I'm always going to remember the brokenness I've come from. So you'd want people to get healed and instantly, and also externally.

Dr. Ray: Right.

Apostle Cathy: I don't know, um. So yeah, my heart is to see people to just live fully for the kingdom. I believe the kingdom of God is here and now and it's within us and, and that means his rule, his reign, his authority, it's here in us and he wants us to, you know, to walk in this power of God with the love of God. So yeah, I want everyone to understand the love of God. You know, I want the devil exposed because he is wreaking havoc on the lives of our children and you know, the youth in this generation. And um, you know, in the depths of what he has succumbed to is disgusting and it's sickening and it makes me upset. It makes me- righteous anger rises up because these are the lives of individuals. That's somebody's son, this is Somebody's daughter, because you're talking, this is a life, you know. And so, yeah. I'm very passionate about rescuing these that the enemy has seduced into his captivity. It's, no- makes me upset but you know what? We have victory. Makes me upset which is good, this is a righteous anger, I don't remain upset. It's like no, we're going to rise up but we're going to do havoc in his kingdom. We're destroying the wicked works of darkness because we have that authority in the name of Jesus and every demon has to bow to the name of Jesus; now in Jesus name. Amen.

Dr. Ray: You really are the tip of the spear. I see it, that's really good, really good. You, you said the kingdom is here now. Explain that. You said, okay, the, the kingdom is here. It's here now. Just for our listeners, explain that.

Apostle Cathy: Yeah.

Dr. Ray:  I think that's powerful.

Apostle Cathy: It is important because it is powerful. The kingdom, Jesus said that the kingdom of heaven is here. He said the kingdom of heaven is now. He says the kingdom of heaven is within us, so in the life of every believer, we have the rule, the realm, and the royalty of Christ living within us. As a matter of fact, the bible says we're to live as one with Christ. So if we're one, that means I'm intertwined with him. When I walk, he's literally walking. Hopefully he's walking and you're following him, that's the ideal. And so, as we're walking, we're walking one with Christ because you know, as he is, so are we in this world. And so knowing that wait a minute, if the kingdom of God is now, here, and within me, then therefore if my mindset is aligned with what's available, which is everything…

What is needed? What is needed? Is it healing? Well, you have it you have it within you because you have Christ in you. You have it really within- you to release it to give it, right? Is it deliverance? Well, you have it. You have the power to destroy those demonic forces. I don't care what spell, I don't care what curse, you have authority destroy it with your words that are backed up with Holy Spirit power. Release it, you have it in you. You have it in you because if Christ is in you, it's Christ you're releasing. Who you're releasing, it's Christ. Christ with us. You know, the hope of glory, it's Christ within us, right? And so the more that people can walk with the understanding that uh, Christ is in me. When you've said yes to Jesus, the more that you go well if Christ is in me and he's alive and the same resurrection power that rose Christ from the dead is living on the inside of me, then if it's living inside of me, then I should be walking it and letting it come forth, seeing the fruit of the kingdom to- come to pass. 

And it's an amazing way of walking but you have to have eyes that are present to see, ears that are present to hear like Jesus said. Eyes but they had eyes but they didn't see, ears but they didn't hear. But that should not be the life of a Christian, the life of a Christian should be I have eyes and I see, I have ears and I hear that which the kingdom of God is telling me, is having me walk in right now. What is Jesus doing? And that's a simple question say: “Lord ,what are you doing in this situation?” You know, Jesus always did what the Father did. “Well Lord, what is the Father doing? Jesus, I want to do what you're doing. Show me.” You- the simple prayer with the understanding of now I'm going to step out and I'm going to take that risk. You're at the store and you see someone and you go up to him and say “hey, you know, I kinda of sense this, is this true? Can I pray for you?” Take the steps. You want to see the power of God move, live with the understanding it's not you, it is Christ in you, the hope of glory- um, but he looks, he is looking for a willing vessel to partner with- but then take those steps and you'll see God's kingdom manifest everywhere you go.

I was dealing, I was dealing with somebody; they were um, walking in a very um, compromised lifestyle. Uh, sexual. A lot of sexual perversion; and I kept telling them “you have- you need deliverance. “You need deliverance”, and they didn't want that. They didn't want that, they were, they were resisting and I said “okay, I'm going to prove to you that you need to, that this is a demon,” because they were not believing me that it was a demon, “I'm going to prove to you this is a demon.” “How are you gonna prove it to me?” I said “I'm gonna put my hands on your head.” I go, “I'm gonna put my hands on your head, I'm going to decree the Kingdom of Heaven is here and now, and, and I'm going, you're going to see what's going to happen.” They looked at me like “man, you're crazy,” like, “what's wrong with you?” I put my hand on their head and I said “in the name of Jesus, the Kingdom of Heaven has come upon you right now”. And all of a sudden, this person starts to tremble. They start to tremble, they look at me with these big old bug eyes. They run to the other room to go to the restroom, to throw up.

Dr. Ray: Wow. Well you know, Jesus said seek ye first the kingdom of God all these things shall be added unto you. And so the kingdom of God is us. We are the temple of the Holy Spirit.

Apostle Cathy: Amen, amen.

Dr. Ray: Jesus made it clear. I mean, he kind of put it pretty simple: seeking first the kingdom, all these things, all these things, will be added unto you. So…

Apostle Cathy: and I love that, you know, and, and I'm so glad you, you clarified that because we're the temple of the Holy Spirit. We are the temple. We, this is the sanctuary. We are the sanctuary. You know, it's not a temple that's built with hands, you know, it's not a temple, “oh, this is the temple, this is the church”, hey there's a church building and there may be, you know, there, there's a church building but we are the church, we are the temple, it's the Holy Spirit that not just lives in us but should reside and take over. Should reside and take over. You know, I'm thinking of something that I, I feel like might be kind of important that I share. Um, you know, I'm growing all in all of this as well and um, I am realizing just some things lately and I'm like…So when I, when I'm at my service and I am uh, praying and I'm laying hands on people and we, we've done, we're, worship is still going on but it's kind of more ministry worship. So in other words, I'm now ministering uh, because I understand the mindset of it's not- it's Christ in me that takes over and I'm lit- I'm looking through his eyes, the eyes of the Spirit. Uh, there are people that are getting healed and delivered, like, constantly, but it's- I'm not fully always aware. 

In other words, okay, let me rephrase that. When the service is over and people come up to me and they say “wow, that was so neat what happened in so-and-so” and I look and I'm like, “who was that?” and then remember she had black hair, she had a hat and this and that, I have no remembrance of who it was. And this happens over and over and over, like I might, I'll remember a few things here and there but the bulk of what happened that night because there's so many things, because I'm like, sometimes I feel like I'm not even walking. I'm- I feel like I'm like kind of floating. It's hard to explain. But it's a whole nother realm. It's another realm. It's a completely different dimension that God takes me into.

Dr. Ray: I understand that.

Apostl Cathy: And so, I don't always remember everything and until after when people go “yeah, this happened” and that's why I have a team that literally has to write down everything. All the healings and the deliverance that happen, that happened that night and send it to me because otherwise I have to watch the whole video and I don't have time for that.

Dr. Ray: Scribes, you have scribes. 

Apostle Cathy: I have scribes. Otherwise I'd have to watch- so I don't have time to watch. I, uh, watch here and there but I don't have time to watch the whole thing, um, to even see what even happened. I just, my biggest thing is: “what just happened?” “Wow.” “The glory of God.” I'm at a limit for words as to what just happened. I, I'm in awe, you know, and my biggest word is “wow”.

Dr. Ray: Yeah.

Apostle Cathy: “Wow.” Even though there's so much more than wow, I'm like “wow”. So I was talking to someone recently and I said this happens all the time. I don't even remember everything that happened but it's incredible and everyone else is going “oh my gosh”, it's incredible. But I can't articulate everything that happens. I go, it's like the Holy Spirit literally takes over and I didn't want to say it's like you're possessed by the Holy Spirit. I refrained from saying that. I was thinking it but I refrained from saying it. My friend says “yeah it's like when someone is you know, like when they're demonized”, and I said “oh my gosh, that's it”. Because I've been doing deliverance for many years and I said when they're demonized, when they're possessed, they don't even remember what they said. Like, you'll be like strangling on me, casting the demon out. And afterwards, I'll ask them “do you remember saying this or that?” “No.” They be- they were taken over by a demon spirit. And I thought oh my goodness, it's the same thing now. 

I'm, this is all becoming revelation for me and so I said this is like the same thing, isn't it? I literally get taken over by the Holy Spirit because I remember some things but not the bulk of what happened, not all of it, and I have to watch the thing or have someone tell me and then when they tell me I go” oh yeah, that's right. Oh yeah, that's right”. So it's not like I'm completely absent, but Jesus is so moving through me that it is not me in charge and, and it is like a takeover. And if, and if I could even say, even like Holy Spirit possessing you, possessing sound- but really possession just means take over. Like, who's in charge, who is in control you know does that- like, if I, if I have this Bible, this Bible is in my possession. I possess it, it's in my possession. And so, it… possess is not a bad word, it's just that we usually think when we hear that word possess, “oh, it's a demon”, right? Well, but you are in possession of some things and so when the Holy Spirit is in possession, then you are letting him literally possess quote, unquote, take over. We can handle the word take over better I think. It helps with our unders- our, our hearing, you know. But isn't that, but isn't it the truth? We're called to be not just led by the Holy Spirit but let Him completely take over and, if you will, even be possessed by the Holy Spirit. 

Dr. Ray: That helps me a lot, I mean, I’m very blessed to move prophetically a lot and people come up to me all the time and go “Dr. Ray, you remember that prophetic word you gave to me? Could you remember that? Could you help explain that?” I have no remembrance of this prophetic word and it happens all the time, I mean, and sometimes just only 10 minutes later and uh, it could be- I understand a month or two ago, okay, I got that just like me, you know, where's my car keys from an hour ago, but it's still- I don't remember, and um… A lady came up to me last Friday night and she said “Dr. Ray, you remember the prophecy you gave me about my heart?” And I said “no”, um, I mean, I didn't really say that, I'm thinking “well, tell me”. She said “Well, you, you, you laid hands on my heart and you said God was doing a miracle in my heart and I said “Oh, praise God, I've been trying to find you as well”. I said “What happened?” she said “I was scheduled for a bypass and so I went in to get my bypass and they did another EKG or CAT scan and the doctor said ‘I don't understand, you already have a bypass’” And so yeah, that's cool but I have no remembrance of ever even praying for her and I'm just going “praise God! Yeah, yeah”.

Apostle Cathy: Yes.

Dr. Ray: What you said, um…

Apostle Cathy: Yeah, that's kind of your revelation to for me realizing what, what's actually happening. It's not what's going to happen, it's what's happening and he is showing me how it's, how it's all coming to pass. I'm like, wow, okay, thank you Lord. I'd rather you all, you…

Dr. Ray: You know, you're, you're immersed in the Holy Spirit, possessed by the Holy Spirit, you know? I think you're right. We need to quit making that a demonic term and um, you're possessed by the Holy Spirit, um, I think that also explains why you said sometimes your services go three hours and I remember being involved with services like that but it's been years ago and it never seemed like it was that long because it was just God and um, yeah…

Apostle Cathy: And people want to stay and they're, just because you know, what it's, it is truly his presence there, uh, just when, when God is moving, people are getting healed, people are getting touched and transformed and people are getting on fire, you know, the fire of God is spreading, that tenacity, that boldness, the righteousness bold as a lion. You know, the enemy, you know, the, they, they run, you know, the wicked, the wicked flee though no one's pursuing but the righteous are as bold as a lion. So boldness, you know, which is that Holy Spirit in-filled power, is just, it's just springing up everywhere. I'm like “wow, this is awesome, Lord.” 

Dr. Ray: I tell you what, apostolic fire definitely describes you, it really describes you. I just sense the fire of God, the passion of God, the anointing is all over you. Uh, I mean, the presence of God is all over you. It's like you can just sense it, um, I mean the anointing is so strong on you. I've got- when you first started talking in this broadcast, I started getting chill bumps and so um, you know, yeah goosebumps I started getting Goosebumps. It's really really cool. Well, as we get ready to wrap up, would you tell our listeners like, if they want more information about your ministry um, maybe the church- whatever you want to share- would you just tell them how to get more information or what, you know, if somebody wanted to contact you? What's the best way?

Apostle Cathy: Sure. The easiest way to contact me is probably just through my website, just cathycopola.org. You can go right to that website, um, you, I have a church website as well and houseofglorychurch.org, so um, either way, that would be the easiest way. I am um, social media, I'm on social media so you know, Facebook, Instagram and such. Of course, Apple, Sonicfire, but the easiest way on Charisma, but the easiest way I think would be just through cathykopola.org, the website. Yeah, just submit your, you know, if you have a question, you want a prayer, you want to know our times of service, you know, when you can come in person. We live stream on Facebook but, and it's great, it's a, it's our-, it's a tool people can utilize it, but it's not the same as being there in person. In person. Yes, the power God moves, people testify of it all the time, they got healed just from watching online.

Dr. Ray: Right.

Apostle Cathy: But to be there is a whole nother level, so to be in person. So yeah, I would love to hear from you and I'd love to pray for you.

Dr. Ray: Amen. Well, you got your books Get Up and Lead, Devil Get Your Hands Off and From Grief to Glory, correct? And they're all on I guess on Amazon? Yeah, or at my website. Either way. Well, the website purchases through your website. Well I want to tell you, it's been. I don't want to sound like a cliche but it really has been an honor, um, and it's just, I'm inspired by the zeal, the fire of God. It's all over you. The passion of God that's all over you. You know, um, it's just uh, it's in your face, it's in your voice, it's in your words, so thank you for coming on the show and doing this.

Apostle Cathy: Yeah, it's been an honor. I appreciate, appreciate the invitation.

Dr. Ray: So can you close this with prayer?

Apostle Cathy: Absolutely, absolutely. And I do have a conference coming up too, Fired Up 20, it’s September the 23rd so if those um, you know are, who able to come and uh, we'd love to have you there. But it's in Santa Ana California, so it's September the 23rd.

Dr. Ray: September the 23rd conference,

Apostle Cathy: Yes.

Dr. Ray: And for information on that conference go to the website?

Apostle Cathy: Just go to the website, yeah. cathycopola, or you can go to Eventbrite Fired Up 2022. And men, women, children, I believe the kids need to be immersed in the glory as well, why make an age limitation? We let our kids come right in there. The kids are filled with the Holy Spirit, prophesying because they're being raised in this atmosphere.

Dr. Ray: And we'll put some of this information in the show notes and description for the, for the listeners.

Apostle Cathy: Okay. So yeah, let me go ahead and close this in prayer then as you had asked. Praise you Father, glory to you Lord God. Hallelujah. We give you the praise and the glory and the honor, Father. We thank you Lord God for this time where we can just exalt the name of Jesus, Father. I thank you Father, that Lord, every eye will see, every tongue will confess, every knee is going to bow. Lord, that Jesus is Lord and every knee is going to bow before the name of Jesus. Father God we choose to bow today. We choose to decree that you are Lord today, Lord for everyone that listens to this podcast message. Lord God, I thank you that the Spirit of God will touch them. I thank you that the power of the Holy Ghost will so fill them in the inside Lord God, that they will be changed, Lord God; that they will go from ordinary to extraordinary, even as you changed the water into wine. 

I thank you Lord God that you are changing hearts and lives, Lord God, to literally be the hands and feet of Jesus, to literally be so indued with the power of the Holy Spirit that Lord, you take over, that is a complete takeover. Lord come fill us up. Lord come fill the listeners. Lord come and touch them, let the power of God now start from the top of their head to the soles of their feet, Lord God. If there is healing that is needed in their bodies, I decree healing is happening right now, that pains are leaving right now, that diagnosis that they received from a doctor, doctor report, Lord God, that is not of you, it falls to the ground and it bears no fruit, that they are healed whole and delivered in the mighty name of Jesus. That any torment or any fear, any assignment, every wicked attack, right now we say absolutely no, you don't get to have that person, you don't get to have that family, you don't get to have that marriage, we rebuke you, we bind you, we cast you out in the name of Jesus. And I thank you for the blood of Jesus that covers them. I thank you that they are covered by the precious blood of the Lamb. I thank you, Lord God, no weapon formed against them is going to prosper. I thank you that they're going from glory to glory and from strength to strength, Father God.

I thank you for this time and space I thank you for Dr. Ray. I thank you for the the uh, this ministry school that he has, Lord God, that he has online as well, Lord, that is for his podcast, for his family and for everything that is hand, Lord God, you have entrusted to for him to do. I asked right now for such a blessing for the anointing of God to fill him even more, Father God, that you would increase, Lord God, everything that you have told him to do that it would be so blessed and, so the tent pegs so stretched. I thank you Lord God, that he will reach from the north, south, east and west those that are called into the kingdom of God that you will use him, Lord God, as an end time warrior in this generation, Lord God, to awaken Hearts to Jesus, Father God, to show them, Lord God, that even with his school, Lord God, what they need, Lord, if there's, if that's the avenue that you have for them that they would awaken to that, Lord God. That prophetic mantle continues to increase even over his life and over those students that you have called him to minister to and to influence. 

Father we bless you, we thank you, we give you all the glory and all the praise. Spirit of the Living God, I thank you for falling afresh upon us right now. Now I thank you for your filling, I thank you for your anointing, I thank you, Lord God, for lives being changed, Lord God, forever and ever and ever. We give you the praise and the glory and the honor in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen and amen. Hallelujah.

Dr. Ray: Thank you Lord, thank you Jesus. Thank you Jesus. Praise you Father, praise your God. Well you've been listening to Apostle Cathy Coppola. Again, Apostle, it’s been an honor. Thank you Jesus, I feel the anointing, thank you Jesus. Amen. This has been Self Talk, I'm Dr. Ray Self. Thank you so much for for joining us today and again, it's an honor and a privilege to have you, Apostle, thank you, thank you so much. Okay, God bless you.

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