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Hey, what's up world? Welcome
to snack size, the podcast that will
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drag you into your most fabulous life. I'm your host, La La Luscious,
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also known as the snack of the
twin cities. I decided for myself
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that I can be whatever I want
to be. So I decided to be
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a drag queen, and if I
can live my dreams, you can to.
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The time has come to believing yourself
enough to turn your ideas into more
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than mere words, and, no
matter what you are doing in life or
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where you want to go, I
want to help you get there fabulously.
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Our double snack episode start snaw hey
snacks. We are on episode three of
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snack size and today I'm doing my
very first double snack. Double snack episodes
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are a little longer than my usual
episodes, but I will be bringing on
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special guests for this double snack.
I want you to hear the perspective of
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another drag performer who I perform within
the twin cities. She performs as a
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drag king as well as a drag
diva. A drag diva in the drag
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community is a female performance artist who
amplifies her femininity to the utmost level and
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creates an illusion of grandeur very similar
to that of a drag queen. In
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addition to drag this guess has an
extensive performing resume which includes appearances with big
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name bands, dance troops, circus
caravans and traveling tours. So please give
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a snack size welcome them to my
very first guess, my dear friend Kitty.
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When I originally planned this episode,
I hope to have kitty here with
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me in the studio today, but
due to social distancing, she will be
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joining us remotely, so let's give
her a call. Hi, Kitty,
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welcome to snacks eyes. Hello,
thank you so much for being my first
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guest. Super Exciting to have you. But those of you who are listening,
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Kitty and I know each other from
a fabulous performing group called the Red
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Hot rascals and reschools. Yes,
we are like a quirky cabaret performing group.
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We've got dancers and magicians and Hula
Hoop artists, all different types of
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things, and we perform all over
the twin cities. So as soon as
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Miss Rona lets us perform again,
we going to be out there doing it.
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So kitting is one of our drag
kings. And also and the show
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that did not happen because of the
virus. You were going to be one
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of our diva's as well. You
and I both wear a lot of different
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hats, so I know that you're
a busy person, I'm a busy person,
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and drag has helped us in all
the aspects of our life, and
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so I want you to start for
talking about your daytoday life and then tell
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us about your different characters and how
you developed them. First off, I'm
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really honored to be your first guest, Lolla, so thank you. Oh,
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of course, I appreciate you.
My name, as you already mentioned,
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is Kitty, and my normal day
job I'm a small business owner of
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an empowerment and fitness event style company. So I do something called rebounding,
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which are these school boots that bounce
and save your joints, and we travel
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around to breweries and do private parties
things like that to bring this new and
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fun fitness thing to people. And
then I'll also, on the flip side
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of that, I do a lot
of entertaining and performing as a character performer
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and I also do to podcasts as
well as I'm a puppy parent of three.
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Yeah, I've three little teddy bears. Little you watch the DIS rule
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my home. How long have you
been performing? Okay, let's see,
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but let's just say two decades.
Oh my goodness, I love performing.
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It really it's it's something that I've
known from a really young age that I
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wanted to do and I just continue
to follow it. So, in terms
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of your character, I know you
have two, which I think is amazing.
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Christopher tracing him bayonet, and how
did you develop those characters? So
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Christopher came first and I had a
lot of friends who were drag kings and
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they actually asked me to start choreographing
some performances for them and as I was
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choreographing these performances, they were finding
out so much about themselves and who they
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were by stepping into these different characters. And from there I almost felt really
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strongly that I too could find deeper, maybe secret pieces of myself by stepping
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into this character that I knew was
a part of me. So Christopher really
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was born due to the fact that
I want to do explore and Rogeny and
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gender fluidity and performing in a different
vibration than I ever had before. I
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think that it's really cool that you
say Androgyny, because one thing you're doing
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that I'm not doing is you have
two personalities. One is Christopher, who
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celebrating Mass Lenity, and then you
have Bayon Net, which is the you
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know, boss diva type personality.
Talk about bayonet a little bit. Sure.
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Bay It is your straight boss,
bish and just a really confident stand
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in her power, speaker truth,
you know it. Just proud of her
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body, proud of who she is, you know, and has really strong
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boundaries, boundaries being you know what
you will and will not accept from people
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and yourself as well. When you
look at both Christopher and bay the male
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that I really step into that energy
is a quiet confidence, like really a
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humble swag. So I'm trying to
flip gender roles all over the place,
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because a quiet nail that is just
energetically connected, in emotionally connected on then,
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on top of that, my female
is just very brash and bold and
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really confident in her sexuality. So
I'm trying to take, you know,
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our normal societal gender roles, if
you will, and create new boxes,
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or not even boxes at all,
like fuck a box, oh, exactly.
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I think as entertainers, especially in
this industry, each of the characters
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that we create starts with our ideas
and and in the way that you know,
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we bring our ideas to life and
they're genuinely our own. Through this
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podcast I want to help other people
whatever ideas they may have, and feel
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like they can bring them to life
as well. When we talked to the
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phone before this podcast, you had
said that each character is like flexing a
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muscle, and that really resonated with
me, that each character brings out different
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things in you and you get to
exercise parts of yourself by being these characters.
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So tell me about each character and
which, I guess, muscle they
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are. So in my day job
I do a lot of coaching. High
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Five fitcom by the way. Shameless
plug. Oh yeah, but with Christopher,
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you know, that silent swag or
that really quiet confidence helps me to
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flex muscles with emotions or with vibrations
rather than with communication or words. So
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that's a muscle. The magnetism,
the self love, all of that stuff,
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all of these are muscles, just
like you would flex B set muscle
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to make it bigger, reflex our
inner talk muscle. We flex our stand
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up for our selves muscle. And
all of these were muscles that I knew
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I craved more connection with you know, those muscles, when you're using them,
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while you're performing, can transfer into
what you do on the daily.
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So you know, as your life
is kitty, before you started performing like
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we're, you struggling with something and
then one day it just completely like change
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for you because you had been performing
absolutely as a business owner, you can't
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say the things you really want to, to stand up for yourself, because
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you don't want the bad reviews,
you don't want the negative, you know,
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vibes. So as a pusiness it's
really hard to stand in your power
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and and create those boundaries, as
as always talking about earlier. But after
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stepping into the role of Christopher,
after stepping into the roll of Bay and
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being in those energies, I then
could almost bring that. For example,
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when someone in my business would would
say something that would be blatant, just
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asinine, I was able to find
the words to stand in my power,
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but I wouldn't shrivel up or I
wouldn't back away from it, or I
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wouldn't run away from confrontation. If
that connects oh absolutely. In the previous
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episode I actually was just talking about
having those healthy boundaries at work and in
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your personal life, and how drag
has given me the confidence to honestly,
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you know, know how I feel, and then be able to speak and
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act on it. That's what I
feel like is such an important part of
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what we do as performers. We
are finding ourselves in ways that I guess
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the rest of the world does it, because we have that freedom to.
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It's that creative that we have to
find ourselves and figure ourselves out. So
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even the parts that we struggle with
were able to become stronger because we are
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we're playing these characters or we're putting
ourselves out there in a different way.
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I think when you're I taught,
I said it is amazing what you will
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learn about yourself by being someone else. It's weird because we're being someone else,
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but we're also being our attentive selves. Thank yourself, secret self.
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Yeah, it's secret self, you
know, the secret self that doesn't always
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come out and day to day,
because you know, society expects this and
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they expect us to be one way, but maybe we actually feel differently.
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So we get to bring that out
in our art and it's such a beautiful
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balance that, once you came that
confidence as a performer, you can just
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easily transfer it to other partying saying
it. So yes, I love that
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you have tapped into that and utilize
that for your business, because it sounds
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like, if you're working in empowerment, that's like a really keyte part of
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it. Well, I'm glad you
brought that up too, because I almost
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reach the level of how do I
empower myself on a deeper level, and
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then I started digging into what you
just mentioned was my secret self, those
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things that I knew were very blatant
about me, but I wasn't living them
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or I wasn't showing them to other
people due to judgments, due to not
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being accepted. But I really enjoy
how you put that. We find out
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so much of ourselves by being someone
else, because you're able to pull out
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authentic pieces of you and be a
character with them for maybe a three minute
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performance. Then you can go back
to what you know exactly. And I
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feel like the more you do it, if you can do it for three
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minutes, you can do it for
five minutes. If you can do it
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for five minutes, you can do
it for an hour, you can do
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it for a whole day and then
it turns into something that becomes for a
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life time and then you level up
exactly. It's all about leveling up.
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And then it's funny that the challenges
as you go as a performer, the
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challenges do you have when you first
started, are not the same challenge as
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you have in your current career,
and you're overcoming those and using drag or
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you know, whatever type of performative
maybe to work through those and it's just
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it's such a growing process that I
hope that the listeners will just allow themselves
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the space to creatively explore themselves.
You know, I don't want everyone to
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feel like they need to hop on
a stage to do this. This is
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something you can do in your daytoday
life, tapping in to the secret self
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and those parts of yourself that are
hard to let out. Just go in
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and let them out, see what
happens and and develop them well, and
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I challenge your listeners to do you
know, create a character and step into
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it for five minutes, ten minutes. I didn't stay. I just didn't
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wake up one day and say,
you know what I'm going to do drag.
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It was a step by step process
of looking really deep, like holding
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the mirror to myself kind of stuff
like what do I really want to do?
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Be In half and then, piece
by piece, you know, stepping
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more into it until you feel comfortable. And most of my characters, La
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La, are my leveling up,
like you can can see the level up
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I've done with the characters I've created. So I will tell you. For
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me, I absolutely just woke up
one day and said I've got to do
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drag. I thought I was revolutionary
heavy. I just know the that I
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was the go beat, the next
big thing, but it turns outs out
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that other people were doing it.
So when you say it's a gradual process,
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talk about how you build the different
parts of your characters. Sure,
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Christopher uses no words to speak,
and that's a that's a skill and to
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be aware of your presence in the
present moment is such a really profound thing
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in a skill. And as I
continued plugging into Christopher a lot more,
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that became an everyday part of my
life where, instead of my usual self
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of Hey, I'm the leader,
to be able to step back and be
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more humble. That just created a
brand new doorway or a brand new possibility
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of what I wanted to become.
And now your other character, bayonet,
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sounds like a newer character, right
correct? Yes, just last year.
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So was there something that was going
on in your life? That said,
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you know, I'm sure that your
work as Christopher Tracy has done a lot
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for you. was there's some point
in life when you said, okay,
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now I need to introduce this new
character. Yes, you know, to
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get really vulnerable and authentic with you. There were things about my sexuality that
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I was searching for and craving more
of. You know, Christopher has the
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silence, swag and the masculine energy, whereas Bay is the sex kitten,
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unapologetically original and just out there with
who she is, and I needed,
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I craved more of that, and
stepping into her helped me to become more
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sexual and aware of that power within
myself too. It's interesting that you say
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that, because one of the things
that drag has helped me with is my
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body image and sexuality. In the
way I kind of you know, always
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knew I was gay, but one
day that okay about the womb, I
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just I knew, I knew,
but when you're black and plus size end
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gay, it's the world will tell
you that you're undesirable and a lot of
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ways and it's not a thing where, like someone will come with you be
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like hey, you're ugly. It's
like you don't see yourself representing to media
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and when you look at beauty ads, you don't see someone that looks like
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you, you know. So when
I was able to transform into this glamorous
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goddess, if I may say so
myself, it really did help me become
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more confident in, you know,
my dating life, in the fact that
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it's like, I know I'm pretty, honey, I know it now.
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I did not see it before,
but and now, like even without all
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of it I was, I feel
so much better about myself. So,
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and what I heard that you just
said was that as you step into this
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drag performer, you were able to
find what your powers were, or what
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powers you had inside of you that
weren't being utilized. So it's almost like
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you find this personal power by stepping
into a character exactly, and it gives
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you the framework for the best version
of not yourself, if that big fit.
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It's it's like it's like it's not
who you are, but it's like
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this is what it could be.
You know, if this is a amper
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amplified, it is too, but
secret self right, and it's the over
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amplified version of you. Now in
my dead day. Like you know,
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you gotta tone it down. You're
extra, just not too extra, just
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not to but I am still retaining
that, that confidence and that are on
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that presence. You know that you're
talking about magnetize them. They yeah,
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yeah, yeah, magnetism or a
magnetizing performer. Okay, so where do
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you see yourself going? And growing
and dragging the future? Definitely growing,
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grow, growing and learning and building. You know, I always approach all
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of my characters in a beginner's mindset, always looking for something to learn.
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And then also I'm in the process
and have just gotten a nonprofit organization started
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called the MIAs project, where it's
going to be a themed Charity Event Company
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which is going to provide another safe
space for performances GAYLA's fundraising events. So
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really, really looking into I want
to support the arts of Minneapolis as well
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as give back in the only way
I know how, which is to perform
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and have fun doing it. So
starting something that's bigger than myself is what
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I'm planning to do with my drag
career soon. And bias is an acronym
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for baby, I'm a star,
Behaby, I'm a star, we're all
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stars, but to just have that
opportunity to to flex that muscle, like
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you just said. So, out
of all the things that you've learned from
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being a performer, being an entrepreneur, what do you think are the greatest
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strengths or things you've learned that are
going to help you achieve these goals?
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I like that question. Thank you. I think just really realizing your energy
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and what you can bring to other
people and being open to receiving that energy
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and connection. I think what I've
learned the most in the performing of these
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characters is that the more you're authentic
with not just yourself but other people,
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the better and more happy and more
bright life is going to be, because
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you're not keeping yourself in the shadows, you're actually shining the light that you
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should have been all along. I
actually was just talking about to Wang Foo
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and the no I just I just
listen to that one. M Yeah,
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so about like larger than life is
just the right size. So I am
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so excited that you have such a
big goal. That's that's amazing to take
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on. are going to hand you
for me right Lalla and see for that.
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Would love to. And you know, I'm so you all heard it
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here first. I'm going to be
empty in baby, I'm a star.
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Yeah, do you want to talk
about like where, where you're at in
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the process? You don't have to
give anything away. You don't want to
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go oh no, not at all. We actually just got accepted for our
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five hundred and one see exempt status. That's coming to fruition a lot more
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quick than I thought, because I
just I said, all right, universe,
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this is what I want, and
he was like, all right,
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cool, you know what, and
that's, honestly, what it's about.
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Not Being a raid to ask.
You know yourself first, but you ask
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yourself what you want and you put
it out there and it's amazing how quick
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things will happen. Like if you
would ask me just a couple months ago
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what I be recording to podcast,
I would have been like, Oh,
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no, I'm just going to do
these shows, you know. But here
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I am, here you are starting
something, and here you are starting something.
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So I really really look forward to
hearing more about this. All right,
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well, thank you for being on
the show. If you want more
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kitty, you can check out her
podcast magic MF is that right? It's
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magic moon face. Yes, magic
MF. Yes, a magic moon faith.
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Miss Rona. Lets us be back, and thank you so much again,
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Kitty. Thank you, Lula.
I appreciate you very very much. I
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will see you all next time.
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