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July 7, 2021

Double Snack with Miss Pvssy

Double Snack with Miss Pvssy

In this episode, Minneapolis-based Drag Queen, Lala Luzious chats with African-American transgender rapper/entertainer Miss Pvssy. Love Miss Pvssy? Check out more of her music Check out the Follow Snack Size: The Podcast on Twitter:...

In this episode, Minneapolis-based Drag Queen, Lala Luzious chats with African-American transgender rapper/entertainer Miss Pvssy. Love Miss Pvssy? Check out more of her music HERE Check out the Snack Size Podcast Official Website Follow Snack Size: The Podcast on Twitter: @podcast_snack  Follow Lala on Instagram: @lalaluzious  _____________   Intro and Interlude Music for "Snack Size"  is Foxylicious (Instrumental) by DayFox https://soundcloud.com/dayfox
Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.040 --> 00:00:05.879 Hey, what's up world? Welcome to season three of snack size, the 2 00:00:06.040 --> 00:00:11.029 podcast that will drag you into your most fabulous life. It's a brand new 3 00:00:11.109 --> 00:00:16.030 year and it's a great time to live the life of your dreams. You've 4 00:00:16.109 --> 00:00:19.710 got to do you because no one else can, and, no matter what, 5 00:00:20.109 --> 00:00:23.620 you're happy and fulfilled life looks like. I want to help you get 6 00:00:23.660 --> 00:00:29.420 there. Are Time together starts now. You'll have it turned it up to 7 00:00:29.620 --> 00:00:32.859 see it with four bitches about to go. When he hope? Yeah, 8 00:00:32.939 --> 00:00:36.530 running this Strey, but this concrete back to be a home. Three clips, 9 00:00:36.609 --> 00:00:41.369 so three trees after that will be as snipe killing about me handing standupus. 10 00:00:41.450 --> 00:00:44.969 You See why? That catfish the limit, pepper, the white gourdess, 11 00:00:44.969 --> 00:00:49.689 Cinderella, shit birds and get served box begetting good fellas badest bitch, 12 00:00:49.770 --> 00:00:53.119 you mad as shit, your song and on thing loss hit Iraq, this 13 00:00:53.280 --> 00:01:03.880 Iraq you, but I pass on a pirate. Hey, snack welcome back 14 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:07.310 to snack size. I am so excited for our guest today, who is 15 00:01:07.430 --> 00:01:14.030 not only pioneering hiphop as a black, transgender rap artist, she's also a 16 00:01:14.230 --> 00:01:17.829 longtime friend of mine. You just heard a little bit of room music and 17 00:01:17.989 --> 00:01:23.340 there is no doubt she is going places. Her bold lyricism and her aggressive 18 00:01:23.340 --> 00:01:27.260 yet relax vocal delivery make her voice stand out in hip hop me music. 19 00:01:27.579 --> 00:01:32.340 What I love most about this artist is that it doesn't matter what track you're 20 00:01:32.340 --> 00:01:37.329 listening to, her music makes you feel confident and empowered. I'm so excited 21 00:01:37.409 --> 00:01:40.849 to discuss her life and her music today. Now, just as a warning, 22 00:01:41.010 --> 00:01:45.489 this episode does feature some explicit content. So if the kids are in 23 00:01:45.569 --> 00:01:48.920 the room, you may want to grab some headphones because, baby, we 24 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:53.799 about to get into some real talk. Please give a snack size. Welcome 25 00:01:53.920 --> 00:02:00.159 to rapper, entertainer and upandcoming hip hop icon, Miss P let's give her 26 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:09.469 a call. Hi, miss be welcome to snack size. Hi, Oh 27 00:02:09.629 --> 00:02:17.219 my goodness, I am so excited to have you book girls. been too 28 00:02:17.340 --> 00:02:23.180 long. It has been way too long. So, for those of you 29 00:02:23.219 --> 00:02:28.139 who don't know, miss me is not only a fabulous rapper, also one 30 00:02:28.180 --> 00:02:30.810 of my friends from back in the day. I think you are actually the 31 00:02:30.969 --> 00:02:35.050 first guest that could say they knew me when I was just getting my start, 32 00:02:35.449 --> 00:02:38.250 and it has been an honor to watch you grow on social media. 33 00:02:38.330 --> 00:02:43.729 I definitely keep up with you and I am so proud of everything that you 34 00:02:43.849 --> 00:02:46.159 have accomplished. Really going out there and chase it after your dreams is so 35 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:50.520 inspiring to me, which is why I had to have you so excited you're 36 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:53.719 here. Well, thank you for having me here and I appreciate you for 37 00:02:53.800 --> 00:03:00.069 having a platform for more artists to shine. Let's talk about your music. 38 00:03:00.310 --> 00:03:04.030 In the interview with the wild report, you said that growing up, hip 39 00:03:04.110 --> 00:03:07.430 hop was your freedom. Can you tell us a little bit more about how 40 00:03:07.629 --> 00:03:12.310 hiphop music has influenced you in your life? I kind of related to like 41 00:03:12.469 --> 00:03:16.699 having a blanket when you're a little child and you feel protected. It makes 42 00:03:16.740 --> 00:03:23.099 you happy, it makes you comfortable, it's therapeutic and whenever the world is 43 00:03:23.219 --> 00:03:25.780 crazy, the little child goes and cuddles their blanket. And that's how I 44 00:03:25.819 --> 00:03:30.969 feel about music, you know, like it was just something that really helped 45 00:03:30.129 --> 00:03:36.289 me explain how I felt and I just felt like I could relate to it. 46 00:03:37.009 --> 00:03:39.449 How long to be done music? Well, I dropped a shy, 47 00:03:39.569 --> 00:03:46.599 reck free style probably maybe three years ago. I'll give you look at me. 48 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:53.199 Remember, way back in the day, you had a song called Plastic 49 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:54.909 Barber. That was my favorite song. It was my ring tone. For 50 00:03:55.150 --> 00:04:00.430 a long time, but definitely, I would say, like which I rag 51 00:04:00.550 --> 00:04:05.310 you like arrived. So talk a little bit about making that song and the 52 00:04:05.430 --> 00:04:10.699 response you received from listeners. I Love Plastic Barber though. I appreciate that, 53 00:04:12.300 --> 00:04:14.979 but I just I was ready to take it up a notch and, 54 00:04:15.180 --> 00:04:18.060 you know, take a sears and everything, and shy reck free style was 55 00:04:18.180 --> 00:04:23.660 already out and it was so many people during a Remix, so even you 56 00:04:23.860 --> 00:04:26.769 was seem like a few people from Chicago, but not many, and I'm 57 00:04:26.810 --> 00:04:30.689 like, shy rack, you know, everyone nicknamed that for Chica, Chicago, 58 00:04:30.889 --> 00:04:33.529 and I'm not here to debate how people feel about that word, but 59 00:04:34.769 --> 00:04:38.600 it was just something that represents Chicago and I was like, you know, 60 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:42.439 like as an introduction, this is something I want to do. I didn't 61 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:46.000 want to just drop single and single first. I wanted to drop a freestyle 62 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:49.920 to just kind of be an introduction of who I am and just like a 63 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:54.350 Chili Pot and you get to see what I'm all about and what I love 64 00:04:54.470 --> 00:04:57.470 to do, and it was just this song that just took to me and 65 00:04:57.509 --> 00:05:00.790 I was just like, and I appreciate it the love that people gave to 66 00:05:00.829 --> 00:05:05.709 it because, although I am you know, a hiphop artist, you know, 67 00:05:05.870 --> 00:05:11.019 but so much more to that. You know that hip hop has birth 68 00:05:11.180 --> 00:05:14.300 and it doesn't have to be the old fashion hiphop how used to be. 69 00:05:14.740 --> 00:05:17.740 When I went to Europe and even performing in Germany and here, people say, 70 00:05:18.019 --> 00:05:21.009 I'm not really a fan of hiphop like that, but I loved your 71 00:05:21.089 --> 00:05:25.689 music, you know, and I just appreciate something like that that people could 72 00:05:25.689 --> 00:05:30.410 just find aggress to it. Yeah, actually, many people, and your 73 00:05:30.569 --> 00:05:33.129 like reviews and articles I've read about you, describe your sound as a new 74 00:05:33.209 --> 00:05:36.800 era and hiphop. So in what ways are you changing the game? And 75 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:41.000 then what ways would you say that you are inspired by artists that have come 76 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:46.480 before you? Being Myself, being not trying to fit to what others are 77 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:50.670 doing, and I mean for me and my brand, it's all about just 78 00:05:51.269 --> 00:05:57.709 confidence on it, your Shit, but also having fun and feeling good about 79 00:05:57.750 --> 00:06:00.069 it as well. And you know, what's in and also what I like 80 00:06:00.230 --> 00:06:02.870 to listen to is, you know, I like to trierk and, you 81 00:06:02.949 --> 00:06:05.660 know, pop my heads and shake my you know, you know. So 82 00:06:05.699 --> 00:06:11.740 I still want to make it related to that and still be pleasurable to what's 83 00:06:11.819 --> 00:06:15.139 in right now, but also with a message and I just feel like I 84 00:06:15.220 --> 00:06:18.930 would love to be part of that. They brings hiphop into such a deeper 85 00:06:19.089 --> 00:06:24.970 message as well as inspiration. Do you have any influences from artists that have 86 00:06:25.089 --> 00:06:32.600 come before you? Yes, you got me going on. Okay, Little 87 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:36.560 Kim for sure. I mean it was just the fact of like back fan 88 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:42.560 when she was coming out and wasn't that many women and it wasn't many women 89 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:47.589 like that car being so soften, the outfits, fashion sexy and everything, 90 00:06:48.310 --> 00:06:51.269 but when she rapped, it was just like the rest of the guys, 91 00:06:51.470 --> 00:06:55.870 you know, and I remember watching something they said that Biggie was like, 92 00:06:56.069 --> 00:06:59.470 you know, whoever got the best rap can be on the song, and 93 00:06:59.709 --> 00:07:02.459 she outraps so many guys in the studio and that's how she got on certain 94 00:07:02.540 --> 00:07:06.259 tracks and I just thought they were so inspiring. Being who I am and 95 00:07:06.819 --> 00:07:11.819 growing up and feeling different, just feel like, you know, like that 96 00:07:12.060 --> 00:07:15.540 was just so dope to say it doesn't matter who's around your surrounding, you 97 00:07:15.660 --> 00:07:18.610 can always be up there too. Absolutely, in fact, a lot of 98 00:07:18.689 --> 00:07:24.129 us are. Songs feature a really unapologetic confidence and I think that many people 99 00:07:24.610 --> 00:07:28.410 go their whole lives and never find it and where does that confidence come from? 100 00:07:28.569 --> 00:07:31.600 And your life, just like growing up, like like I was a 101 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:36.279 hard head child, you know, like I wasn't a kid who could like, 102 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:41.560 after get in trouble, I can learn that it was a bad idea 103 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:45.870 and get inspired to be better. It wasn't the hole. Sit Down at 104 00:07:45.949 --> 00:07:48.870 the table and let's talk about why your homeworks bad. Let's do this. 105 00:07:49.110 --> 00:07:53.470 I want you to not give up. It was more of like really be 106 00:07:53.709 --> 00:07:57.350 strong, powerful black women my life saying, like, you not doing this, 107 00:07:57.470 --> 00:07:59.899 get the fuck up, you not. You know, like keep growing, 108 00:08:00.100 --> 00:08:01.459 you're not a failure. You won't be up there. You I won't 109 00:08:01.540 --> 00:08:05.579 let you be a failure. I'm going to feel like a bad bitch, 110 00:08:05.779 --> 00:08:07.180 which going to help you feel like a bad bache, and I want you 111 00:08:07.220 --> 00:08:09.579 to go to help somebody else feel like a babbage. And it was just 112 00:08:09.699 --> 00:08:13.930 a tough love. So that's what, like, really brought me into my 113 00:08:13.089 --> 00:08:16.410 wrap zone too, because, you know, that inspire me and made me 114 00:08:16.610 --> 00:08:20.089 feel the way I am now. So I just feel that somebody playing my 115 00:08:20.250 --> 00:08:26.170 track, either, you know, just chilling alone or out or whatever you're 116 00:08:26.209 --> 00:08:28.920 doing. You just feeling good and you're embodying yourself. I see a lot 117 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:35.080 of artists that during Halloween people dress up and you could tell all this guy 118 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:37.360 got assistant and I think that's so dope. But me as an artist in 119 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:41.750 brand that starting to form, and when I get to that point, I 120 00:08:41.950 --> 00:08:45.509 just want to try to be like ourselves, you know what I mean? 121 00:08:45.549 --> 00:08:48.190 I just want to try to be y'all and just be dope, and I 122 00:08:48.309 --> 00:08:50.549 want to see me in them. Is like, wow, they wanted to 123 00:08:50.629 --> 00:08:54.149 give up a year ago. They felt like life was over, but not 124 00:08:54.309 --> 00:09:00.860 a motherfucker running it, that bitch. Yes, I think that's great advice 125 00:09:01.419 --> 00:09:05.659 for people who struggle with finding their confidence. What would your advice be to 126 00:09:05.820 --> 00:09:11.690 them? Own It. I feel like just going to empty or ninety. 127 00:09:11.769 --> 00:09:16.769 It got to be empty, okay, it's okay. Got You going into 128 00:09:16.850 --> 00:09:24.919 a room alone and really just owning it, turning up their music, replaying 129 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:28.120 it, replaying and whatever makes you feel good and just jamming to it, 130 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.919 and I feel like that's kind of like being out there in the world, 131 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:35.759 you know, like just not caring about just around. Is it just going 132 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:37.950 forward and just letting it go, you know, even if you don't believe 133 00:09:39.029 --> 00:09:41.509 it, even though if you don't feel it yet, just keep it going. 134 00:09:41.549 --> 00:09:46.590 One thing I really enjoy about your music is that you can tell by 135 00:09:46.669 --> 00:09:50.590 your lyrics that you have lived a lot of life. So in life, 136 00:09:50.990 --> 00:09:54.179 what is the biggest challenge that you faced? How did you evercome it and 137 00:09:54.259 --> 00:09:58.659 what did you learn? I think finding my voice, finding my identity, 138 00:09:58.860 --> 00:10:01.980 of saying like this is how I feel, this is who I am. 139 00:10:03.899 --> 00:10:05.940 It took a minute, you know what I mean, and that's that's why 140 00:10:05.940 --> 00:10:09.289 I really wanted to take a break before I came out with anything, and 141 00:10:09.450 --> 00:10:15.049 that's why it took a couple years after to do Shiraq, because I wanted 142 00:10:15.129 --> 00:10:18.690 to feel complete. I just kind of felt like, you know, I 143 00:10:18.889 --> 00:10:22.600 love everything back in a day, but I didn't feel like I was completely 144 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:28.679 myself yet. I didn't feel like I was completely what God was ready to 145 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:33.240 form. So I wanted to take a break from that and just I give 146 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:37.590 myself together and everything justify my voice so I can be able to feel confident 147 00:10:37.629 --> 00:10:46.070 about that. And I think another challenge is really just like being patient and 148 00:10:46.269 --> 00:10:50.779 not worrying about the fact that there are a lot of artists out here who 149 00:10:50.860 --> 00:10:54.299 don't care to do it because it's their heart that's beating and craving for this 150 00:10:54.500 --> 00:11:00.019 dream. They're just doing it because it's in and it's fast and quick, 151 00:11:00.179 --> 00:11:03.370 and you know, some of them blow up so fast because the begain mixed 152 00:11:03.450 --> 00:11:07.570 in a drama and this and that. And for me, as a real 153 00:11:07.690 --> 00:11:11.809 artist, that's not anything that I want, because it's all about longevity. 154 00:11:11.929 --> 00:11:16.169 For me, telling myself it's okay to be patient, way for your time, 155 00:11:16.970 --> 00:11:20.720 when it's really for you and it's your dream, it's going to show 156 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:24.399 and it's always going to last forever. You touch on something that I think 157 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:30.440 we have in common as artists, is longevity. What is your key to 158 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:35.710 keeping your selfgoing and your fans interested? I feel like always be yourself, 159 00:11:35.029 --> 00:11:39.909 because that's what made them enjoy you at the beginning. I feel like a 160 00:11:39.950 --> 00:11:43.590 lot of artists mess up because they start to forget what the people who were 161 00:11:43.629 --> 00:11:48.419 there for them want it and it's all about knowing how to have a balance, 162 00:11:48.580 --> 00:11:52.740 have it a bit of what they want mix with just like if you 163 00:11:52.820 --> 00:11:56.779 want to experiment with certain alternative or sounds or any type of thing. You 164 00:11:56.860 --> 00:12:01.570 know what I mean. Absolutely so anyone who follows you can see that you 165 00:12:01.649 --> 00:12:05.330 are out in the world making your dreams happen. What advice would you have 166 00:12:05.649 --> 00:12:09.769 for people that have a dream and want to start making it come true? 167 00:12:11.169 --> 00:12:16.440 Stay consistent and just do it. And it's all about the battle between the 168 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.639 good and the bad in your mind, and it's more getting into your head 169 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:22.759 telling you you're not good enough, you can't you should way, hold on, 170 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.320 wait for this. What about this? What if they don't like it? 171 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:30.590 But it's all about keep going no matter what, and having that warfare 172 00:12:30.789 --> 00:12:33.870 is really just believing into the true thing, that the true voice in your 173 00:12:33.909 --> 00:12:39.230 head that says anything is possible. That is really great advice. I appreciate, 174 00:12:39.549 --> 00:12:43.070 of course. So this is the question I asked on every episode. 175 00:12:43.379 --> 00:12:48.779 In your opinion, what is the key to living a happy and fulfilled life? 176 00:12:50.899 --> 00:12:58.570 Forgiving. I feel like we as people, tend to steal live our 177 00:12:58.769 --> 00:13:05.210 lives with giving the microphone to our past instead of living for our president and 178 00:13:05.330 --> 00:13:11.330 creating for our future. And it's all about forgiving your past, forgiving anything 179 00:13:11.409 --> 00:13:13.639 that hurts you. You if course, of course, it's a lot of 180 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:16.919 stuff that we all want to change, but the point of living is learning, 181 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:20.200 and if you didn't if you didn't know what you were doing, you 182 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:24.159 can't get mad because you, you know, you didn't learn from you know 183 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:26.470 you had to learn in order to know what you're doing. I don't even 184 00:13:26.509 --> 00:13:31.350 believe in working hard, I believe in working smart. And we're okay. 185 00:13:31.789 --> 00:13:33.509 But well, help you okay, because when this meant for you, you 186 00:13:33.789 --> 00:13:37.350 already got it. So it's now it's all about you just staying in that 187 00:13:37.590 --> 00:13:41.340 line and on that lane it. Does your music have a part in the 188 00:13:41.379 --> 00:13:46.580 way? You will forgive anything in your past. Yeah, definitely. I'm 189 00:13:46.620 --> 00:13:50.019 being, like I say, with the music, is being my freedom. 190 00:13:50.139 --> 00:13:54.980 You know, it really was my exhale at times that I felt like it 191 00:13:54.139 --> 00:13:58.090 was over whatever, I didn't feel good or strong enough to keep going, 192 00:13:58.889 --> 00:14:05.970 like people taking boxing classes or whatever, to just release all that and let 193 00:14:05.009 --> 00:14:07.450 it out, you know, to me. And definitely, yeah, it 194 00:14:07.610 --> 00:14:13.440 just helps me let go and not be so mad of things that I can't 195 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:18.159 change. I think you've touched on the really important part of what it means 196 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.639 to do what you love. Not only do you find success, you're able 197 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:26.070 to release the negativity in your life by really driving in your lane and following 198 00:14:26.149 --> 00:14:31.070 your dreams. So thank you for that. That's an awesome perspective thing. 199 00:14:31.149 --> 00:14:33.590 And when my family want to say like a lot of us, tend to 200 00:14:33.870 --> 00:14:39.940 stop right away because we are expecting fast results, but that is not going 201 00:14:41.059 --> 00:14:45.019 to help. A cut does not heal in two seconds. You have to 202 00:14:45.100 --> 00:14:48.860 have time and patient and keep just building a foundation and then you'll get there. 203 00:14:50.740 --> 00:14:54.570 Let's talk about what's next for you. What's coming out? Okay, 204 00:14:56.690 --> 00:15:01.169 first off of I decided to come out with the EP. So I did 205 00:15:01.330 --> 00:15:05.289 nine songs and I wrote them all, and then now I'm doing the engineering, 206 00:15:05.409 --> 00:15:09.879 editing. You're almost finishing up with it and everything, and I have 207 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:13.279 something really big news I can't wait to say eventually, because the bitch all 208 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:18.559 water Calais, so this b hard. I get that. Awesome. You 209 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:22.669 produce a lot of your own stuff by yourself now, so I have a 210 00:15:22.789 --> 00:15:28.350 producer produced by P and he is awesome, and we just been doing that 211 00:15:28.429 --> 00:15:31.750 back and forth, and then we'll go to the heels the desert, far 212 00:15:31.830 --> 00:15:35.620 away. We've run it there BINGB's that coach just so we can found. 213 00:15:35.700 --> 00:15:39.539 So I've also been filming a lot of behind the scenes footage on drones. 214 00:15:39.940 --> 00:15:43.179 Oh my God, should beautiful footage and just so much getting prepare for this 215 00:15:43.299 --> 00:15:48.220 EP. And just like I kind of behind the scenes of me being so 216 00:15:48.539 --> 00:15:52.649 new and how I worked my way for this. I am so excited to 217 00:15:52.730 --> 00:15:56.169 see that. So whatever, you're ready to release the INFO. Where can 218 00:15:56.210 --> 00:16:04.159 we follow you? Well, my instagram is am I sspd doubles. Why? 219 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:10.799 Why? Because I said so. Were all right, like spotify or 220 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:14.480 apple? I really just want people to follow in love more with the artist 221 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:17.799 and then if you want to love the person, it's fine, but listen 222 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:22.710 to my stuff and feel like a baddy, bad bitch, bad guy who 223 00:16:22.750 --> 00:16:26.230 lover. Well, thank you so much for coming out to snack side and 224 00:16:26.429 --> 00:16:32.389 ferry your story. It has been such a pleasure and I am looking forward 225 00:16:32.429 --> 00:16:34.580 to whatever is next for you. I will be keeping my eyes field, 226 00:16:36.139 --> 00:16:40.100 and thank you, Lona. I continue to be awesome and I really appreciate 227 00:16:40.259 --> 00:16:45.740 this. Is Very Professional. This was dull and yeah, everyone who's listening, 228 00:16:45.019 --> 00:16:49.690 keep following Lalla is. Well, you're gonna have a work honey. 229 00:16:51.850 --> 00:16:59.690 All right, snacks. Until next time, go be fabulous. Hey smack, 230 00:17:00.049 --> 00:17:03.840 thanks for hanging out with me and listening to this episode. You can 231 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:11.720 get into every episode over at www dot snack size podcastcom, and don't forget 232 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:15.440 to register for my email list. So I can keep you in the loop 233 00:17:15.829 --> 00:17:22.509 about new episodes, sneak peaks, giveaways and more. That's www dot snack 234 00:17:22.630 --> 00:17:27.269 size podcastcom. Until next time, see you later. Smack.