Feb. 2, 2022
Snacks with DeAngelo Jackson

In this episode, Twin Cities-based Drag Queen, Lala Luzious chats with star of Collar Confessions on Here TV DeAngelo Jackson - the first black man to win a GAYVN Best Actor Award in 2020 and most recently claimed the most coveted GAYVN Performer of The Year 2021 title, from the adult film industry’s equivalent to the Oscars.
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Hey snacks, it's seas and four
of snack size the podcast and two thousand
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and twenty two is all about you. And guess what, you are fabulous.
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It's time to open doors and embrace
some new opportunities, and your dreams
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can and will come true if you
just take the time to pursue them.
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So this season is a cheers to
you finding your fabulous life. Are tied
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together. Starts now. Hey snacks, welcome to season four of snacks.
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Eyes and I am so excited to
continue our journey to a happy, fulfilled
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and fabulous life together. And today
we have my sexiest guest ever. He
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is the star of Color Confessions on
here TV. Actor and model D'Angelo Jackson
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is here and he's going to talk
to us a little bit about his life
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and experience as an adult film actor
and his journey into breaking into mainstream acting.
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But even before learning his role in
color confessions, D'Angelo was actually the
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first black man to win a Gay
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the adult film industries equivalent to the
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and I cannot wait to talk to
him about it. So let's give him
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a call hey, d' Angelo,
welcome to snack size. Hey, thank
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you for having me. Thank you
so much for being on here and be
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my first guest of season four.
I've been watching your TV show. I'm
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here TV Color Confessions, and I
absolutely love it and I had know all
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about you, but I want my
guest to hear from you about you.
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So tell me a little bit about
your life. Well, my name is
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Angela Jackson. I've been in the
business for thirteen years now, seems like
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forever. Now I'm trying to get
it to the mainstream acting world. It's
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been an interesting two years, but
things are going pretty well on this.
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You know, excited to start a
new chapter in my career. So tell
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us a bit about color confessions and
how you got involved in the project.
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What kind of confession is based off
of D White o'neils book? This is
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loosely based, us to say.
It's more of a horror aspect put into
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it because they here TV wanted to
go on side with Halloween, you know,
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in October being released. It was
an interest I had the audition for,
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so I simply know audition tape.
I'm it was really interesting, really
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fine to be trust something new.
The pastor. I've playing the character of
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Clinton and it's really, really interesting. It was really fun working with season
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actors, you know, because for
me this was totally totally new and very
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nerves rating. But it was fun
to feed off the energy, you know,
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these season actors. And it was, you know too, about two
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weeks. It was like really,
really quick, but it was really,
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really fun just to be on said
doing something new and, you know,
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not performing as seeing the sex scene
for the first time. Has Acting always
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been one of your goals? I
honestly know it wasn't. Until I donet
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to the industry. I really just
wanted to try something new. As far
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as you know, I'm playing different
characters. I never really grew up wanting
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to be an actor. I just
think I got got bit by the above
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belong I stay inside of the built
industry. What were your career goals as
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you were growing out? Honestly,
I wanted to be a police officer.
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I went to Florida State University Major
and criminal justice, and that was I
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saw myself as then, you know, a police officer, and I really
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fought. My brother is a cop, was a cop, so it was
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like one of those things. Is
Not following in his footsteps because he didn't
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want to be a cop. You
know, something I always inspired to be
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was a cop. It wasn't until, you know, black lives matter movement
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kind of open my eyes about what
was going on and also seeing what he
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was going through. Me In a
black police officer there I just didn't resing
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myself wanting to put up with any
of that or going down that route and
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I think I was having just more
success and more fun being in that,
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know, in industry, no free
travel and just reading great people all the
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time and it's having fun, I'll
set. So I really wanted to be
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as successful as I was as a
poor model. One thing I'm hearing is
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something we talked about on this podcast
a lot, and is that dreams can
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change. So it sounds like you
wanted to be a police officer and then
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you got into adult acting and now
into TV acting. So tell us about
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the moment that you made the decision
that you wanted to transition from a police
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officer to an actor, as I
was going to call it, though you
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know, I apply to several companies
in a point industry and I still wasn't
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something I saw myself doing for too
long. It was just quick and easy
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money. But as I go older
and I was, like I said,
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I saw my broad going through.
I saw the climate, you know,
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in America as far as cops and
just I mean the passion that that I
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go with one to by plice officer
making a change. It is really just
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feel about. And so, as
far as my goals, I just really
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wanted to take that and focus it
somewhere else and I think, and you
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know, you could still in the
train out, I wanted always make a
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change within the industry to have anybody, especially anyone that's no man of color,
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to have an easier route than I
had when I first got into it,
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you know, as far as treatment
and pay gaps and all that stuff.
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And so for me I would come
to advocate, so to speak,
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of trying to better off the industry
for mostly for just man of color.
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I have a few friends and adults
entertainment and I know that it's very hard
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work and I'm sure, just as
in any industry, as an individual of
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color, you probably deal with a
lot of B as. Can you talk
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about some of your experiences that have
led you to be the advocate that you
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are today? Well, you know
when I first got into it is like
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two thousand and eight, I believe, late two thousand and eight, early
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two thousand and nine, and you
know, the whole narrative, the stereotypes
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of black subs any kind of you
know, role or kind of seeing.
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You know, I was going go
any of my costars are doing. It
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was always based off of a stereotype
of African American miles. The more I
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did it, the more guilt I
felt, you know, playing it,
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you know, playing it to that, because for me, leaving an army
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bread, you know, I'm from
all over. So I one thing I'm
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not as a book. It is
nothing wrong with being a book. If
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that's who you are, that's the
if that's truth, go for but I
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think, you know, we are
so much more than just one kind of
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you know, stereotype or you know, I'm kind of people and I really
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wanted to cross over. I really
wanted to have my catalog of work be
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very diverse, because that's why I
am as a person, and so I
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wanted to showcase black man in a
positive light and not, you know,
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and it's very negative, stereotypical way. I imagine that the porn industry is
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similar to the drag industry and that
when you're first starting out, you're just
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trying to get your name out there, so you'll take anything. But do
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you remember a point in your career
where you decided that you no longer wanted
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to play the roles that you were
given and started having convert stations about the
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roles you wanted, and how would
those conversations received? Yeah, I remember
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I was doing a photo shoot and
one of the outfits they wanted me to
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wear was a jumpsuit, like a
prison jumpsuit, and looking back, you
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know, at the pictures, I'm
like this is just this is this is
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it for me. You know,
it was like one of those moments where,
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you know, the strong folk the
camel's back. I was like I
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cannot play into this trope of,
you know, a black man being seen
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in a prison jumpsuit. It was
just so blatant. Is like, you
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know what, now was the time
to advocate for myself so later I can
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advocate for others. It was one
of those moments where the company was sponsored.
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Before you know, we had to
sit down to talk and eventually I
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was able to be released. It
was just time to move on. It's
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time to cross over and to be
a in to go to a company that
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would present men of color in a
positive light. As far as you know,
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the how would set up, as
far as locations, as far as
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the quality of work, and I
think that, you know, we slowly
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made a change with, you know, in the past five years of showcase
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in black man and all kinds of
roles. You know, we don't have
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to be the plumber that shows up, you know, because someone's host fool.
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Need to be the owner and someone
else is a plumber. saw it
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up and playing that part, you
know, or I'm playing a movie start,
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someone else is there audition. You
know, we can. I want
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to own a home. I don't
want to see the time thereto as a
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we're always to help. So that's
what I've been trying to do for the
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past several years now. So let
me ask you, what are you most
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proud of in terms of progress you've
seen in the industry, and where would
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you like to see the industry go? I'm most proud of at the gay
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begins when not even realizing until I
was actually there that no men of color
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have no gay menical ahead everyone.
That's actor category, and I think,
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I believe the gay begins said,
or the to that point was going for
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twenty years now. I was I
don't know I should have been shocked about
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it, but I was. And
so for me, I didn't think I
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start a chance, you know,
giving who was also nominated. So once
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my name was called, I really
wanted to take that moment to showcase and
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to the pay that I was sitting
at was many men of color, and
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I really want to showcase down to
say this is not this for me,
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this is biviitally, this is for
all of us. is a step forward,
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this is, you know, having
a door be cracked open a little
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bit and for me, now that
I have a bit of a larger platform,
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want to use that platform to advocate
for groups who are marginalize, Trans
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Community, especially the Trans Community of
color. That was one of the issues
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that I have. But you know, if you'll do a little bit,
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but the black lives matter matter movement
is that there's not enough tension focus on
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our trans girls the color and they
getting murdered. This is it seems to
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me it's only black male lives matter. As far as I'm so sorry,
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because they shoes aren't really dance,
Spot Life, on our trans community,
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fishing on PLC's well, any way
that I can advocate and use my platform
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to voice issues and to make you
know to try to have a conversation and
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dialog so we can make me changes. I do. I'm so glad that
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you brought that up. I do
have a lot of these conversations in my
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personal life, but I've not yet
brought it up on the podcast. There
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is a unique experience in being a
person of color. There is a separate,
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unique experience by identifying as Queer.
Then, in this situation as we're
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talking about, there is another separate
and unique experience by being trans. And
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I say experience because not everything is
bad or negative, and I personally think
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that Black Trans people are some of
the most beautiful, intelligent and innovative people
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we have in the world today.
But we also know that everybody's experience comes
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with its own struggle and some people, for example you and I, are
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experiencing two or more of those struggles
from these unique experiences, and that is
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what makes advocacy so important and I
think it's great that you're doing that.
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Do you feel that people of Color
in the entertainment industry have a long way
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to go in terms of equality and
fair treatment. Absolutely. I mean are
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society mirrors everything. So it's largest, it's a bigger question in that because,
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you know, porn is really just
the mirror of other country. You
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know, in its country we deal
with a lot of racial issues. So
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it's going to always seek them toil
every sect of entertainment. And for me
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I've always tried to keep politics out
of form because for me I think it's
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entertainment and you don't come there to
watch porn to be reminded of what's going
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on outside of you just come there
get your rocks off and going about your
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day. So I've never I try
not to mix into two and try to
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really become harder to be honest,
especially, you know, since last summer
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the resurgence of black lives matters hard
to really sit on the on the sideline,
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and I say that you have to
say something. Well, you are
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fall of the problems. We have
a long way to go. We do
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have a long way to go,
but it's getting better set about stuff.
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Sometimes we take steps backwards, but
I think for the most part where we're
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making headway. So you are the
first blackmail to invest actor at the gay
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B ends is the gay the ends
and award ceremony for the entire adult entertainment
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industry. You just for the the
Ky five of things. So it's like
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the obscers of the world, spoil
for the Gay Commatian far the gay awesome.
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Do they have other award shows?
Yes, we have the at end,
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which is take it for the straight
quite relations, and then gave the
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Games. May they have the drabby. The rabbies are like the not the
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phony, but the any believe.
So this didn't give you, you know,
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visuals just it's gotten better. We've
had a category called it is called
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ethnic ethnic category. Got Rid of
that. While the step for it,
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it's just helped will to be set
right. could be separated like that.
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You know, it's like one of
those things some people advocate for like,
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you know, if you don't have
that category, then there's no way that
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you're going to go again. Someone
was white. So, but we got
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rid of it and things have gotten
better and sad that recognition for all of
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us, regardless of the color,
is amazing to be recognized and seeing by
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your tears is amazing. Now it's
not going to you know, going to
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you any higher pay, unfortunately,
but you still have that they recognition,
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which is my because it is.
It's hard work what we do and it
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is nothing sexy about making form at
all. Would higher pay be something you
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want to see improve? Would that
be an except? Well, you know,
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with only things and just for friends
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hiring the sloopers anymore. You know, it's a battle between the fan work
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and in the studios. So you
have a lot of models down wood that
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link for less whatever hers. Those
who are will spend years the game.
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We aren't. You know, they're
making so now is this kind of it's
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kind of hurting as far as we're
getting paid right now because of the longly
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fans and stuff like that. So
it's just it was getting better. I'm
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not sure all the whole thing has
completely shifted, especially since covid you know,
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everyone is slowly coming back to work, but some of us are are
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not really making as much as we
want, swear, or we aren't being
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signed to exclusive contract to. Well, you just it's become too expensive to
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some companies. So it's become a
bit of a vicey situation within the industry
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right now. You are signed to
a studio. Is that right? Yeah,
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in time, about like a studio
versus only fans. What would you
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say the pros and cons are of
each? Well, my only I'll say
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one only cons is now you have
some guys making a couple of videos of
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call themselves foreign starts. It's a
sense it's got about the flap of the
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face. I really want I get
me take so much work and, you
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know, dedication and a lot.
You know, I would think, to
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have that stample you being like a
bona five porn stars that people know,
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you know, as supposed to,
you know, being only fans, not
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seem only say it on it.
But I think that you want if in
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the industry we have to do both. I think it's, you know,
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as far as want to quality being, you know, Pant Studio and I
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think only fans. It's more of
that behind the scenes type, more intimate
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by think that fans love. So
I think you could do both. I
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think you know, studios and only
fans ca call is if you just got
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to figure it out and we have
to at least be more respect put on.
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You know, it's the name of
a porn star nowadays, but if
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all good you know, we're all
making our money. You're all trying to
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host them and doing best we can
right now. I know that when it
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comes to drag, now that there's
drag race and drags a little bit more
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mainstream, anybody who steps in the
Wigan heels thinks that they can be a
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professional drag queen, and I mean
that's just not how it works. Right
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nothing great happens overnight. So I
definitely understand where you're coming from in terms
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of your own career. When you
think about people that want to be successful,
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maybe not necessarily as an adult film
star, but just that, whatever
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they may want to do. What
would your top two pieces of advice be
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for people who want to follow their
dreams? I will say do the research.
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Anything you want to do, you
know. For me, obviously I
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have more experience in being in in
indulge industry. I know how mentally and
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physically harmful and hard it can be
as far as that goes, but I
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think you have a passion for it. You have a passion or anything,
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go for it. You know your
research ch and don't ever get the scouraged.
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Things don't, you know, happen
overnight. Just stay focused and just
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really surround yourself also with good people. So Ryan set of people who are
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who are a little more successful to
you are right now. So, yeah,
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you know, some way of getting
advised and something to aspire to as
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well. You don't surmid yourself for
people who are very staggering where I'm going
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anywhere. I don't care if they
are your best friends. Sometimes a friend
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is ships for a season, it's
not for a lifetime. So you have
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to really know what you get.
You really have to buckle down and focus
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on what you really want to do
and just stay focused. That's great advice.
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So we talked about where you've been. Tell us a little bit about
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what's next for you and where do
you want to go? I want to
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get more roles. I wanted to
start stretch my my acting tops, so
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to speak, and be challenged more
so my next chapter. But I did
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I want I want a new challenge, you know, I'm want to try
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something different. May being a game
and I get bored really easily. Saw
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Right up to I'm ready to try
something new. I'm ready to you know,
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and I want to take my fan
base with me on this new journey
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and through chapter of my life.
So that's my plan, my two year
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goal. That's awesome. Here a
snack size. We'd love new journeys,
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we'd love new challenges and I have
a feeling everything is going to work out
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just great for you, for my
fans who want to follow you on your
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new journey. Let us don't we're
we can find you on social media.
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Ig is the one the Angelo Jackson's
and my twitter is more risk. Ay
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is the Angelo Jay x x x, only fans, is the Angelo Jackson
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and I also have a toy line
out with what fresh jacks on one of
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the newest flushtet boys. Oh my
goodness, you have your own toy line.
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What was the process like of creating
your own toy line? Well,
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normally the process pre covid was they
will find you in and into a d
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we have this machine that would take
a d image. But my process was
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a little different because of covid precautions, I had to really take extremely detailed
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pictures and measurements of myself, so
I had my partner helped me do that.
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Now it's interesting, I mean,
but it's funny because they see me.
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You know I'll sit in the pictures, in the measurements. They were
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sitting samples back. They Will Mel
me samples that and I will look at
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them and I will give notes like
okay, this needs to change, or
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this things to be here, or
this, know, this birth mark us
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in place here, or the size
it is isn't it's a little quite off.
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And after, you know, a
couple of times of that taking notes,
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the hand results with spot on and
I will completely impressed. They flew
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me out to the actual headquarters and
I had an opportunity, need to go
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back behind the scenes and see all, well, the models and I'll side.
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Oh my God, I just I
felt so honored to be a yeah,
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the caliber of love these other porn
stars and just nazing and females.
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My Name. This is this is
incredible. This is a really incredible I
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just felt really honor and to finally
have, you know, my all to
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line. Foh, I'm glad.
After day I was like okay, I'm
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like, I retired, I'm yeah, my wars, I got my toy
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line. I'm good to go.
I think I've conquered I know that's right.
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Well, d' Angelo, thank you
so so much for coming and hanging
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out on snack size. It has
been so fun to talk to you.
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Thank you, thank you. Thank
you for having mes with often and,
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of course, we are looking forward
to more color confessions exclusively on here TV
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and whatever else is next for you. Yeah, just be looking out.
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I'm always updating my social media about
what's going on, so that's how you
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abially like keep up to date by
what I'm doing. All Right, snaxt,
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thank you for hanging out with me
and D'Angelo here on snack size and
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until next time, be kind,
be yourself and, of course, go
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