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Hey, what's up world? Welcome
to season three of snack size, the
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podcast that will drag you into your
most fabulous life. It's a brand new
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year and it's a great time to
live the life of your dreams. You've
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got to do you because no one
else can, and, no matter what,
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you're happy and fulfilled life looks like. I want to help you get
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there. Our time together starts now. Hey, snacks, happy two thousand
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and twenty one. It is so
good to be here with you all in
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this brand new year. Two Thousand
and twenty was very long and difficult,
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but in a lot of ways,
full of life lessons. Last year we
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learned about making it work, even
though it seemed impossible, listening to our
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loved ones and practicing self compassion.
We learned how to live with each other,
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even though we were far apart.
We learned when to be angry and
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when to forgive, when to speak
up and when to be quiet. Most
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importantly, we did all of these
things together and we got through it.
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I also know that a lot of
great things happened for me in two thousand
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and twenty, and I hope that
maybe you can say the same. In
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fact, this podcast is one of
those things. So thank you for being
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on this journey with me. My
first guest this season is a friend of
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mine here in the twin cities,
but is also known all over the world
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for his photography that explores the human
form, sexuality and identity. Through his
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work as a portrait photographer, he
has gotten to see many different sides of
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many different people from all walks of
life. I am really excited for you
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all to hear his unique perspective on
living a happy and fulfilled life. Welcome
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to snack size, Ryan. Quite. Let's give him a call. Hi,
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Ryan, welcome to Snack Siyes.
Hello, I am so excited to
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have you. Ryan has actually been
a huge part of my journey because he
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has taken the photos of every cover
of snacks eyes that we're going to get
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to know Ryan really close here in
just a moment. But first or and
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I have to ask, how is
your you're going so far, and what
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are you looking forward to in two
thousand and twenty one? Well, thank
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you for having me. First off, and my years going well, you
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know, just rolling with the punches
and kind of figuring out things as we
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go. Obviously life's a little bit
different now, but hopefully things will start
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to look get back to normal eventually
and as far as projects, hopefully all
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the stuff that got postponed in two
thousand and twenty is going to happen this
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year. So it's definitely been a
difficult year for US artists. We put
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a lot of work in and then
all of a sudden everything just got derailed.
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So, speaking of your projects,
how did you get into photography?
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I had an interest in photography from
a very young age. I remember one
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of my mom's best friends was a
photographer and I just thought it was so
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cool and I just was interested in
that. I started out with saving my
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money from my little job and going
and buying a small film camera and just,
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you know, taking pictures of the
flowers in the yard and a friends
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and mean I was maybe thirteen fourteen
buying that camera, so it was pretty
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young. Do you remember the point
in your life where and you said you
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wanted to start taking photography seriously as
more than a hobby? In High School
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I took photography classes and I knew
then I had a really strong interest for
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it. After High School I was
actually a Jehovah's Witness and I went door
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to door every day and I remember
just kind of looking at things and being
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like, oh, that would be
great to photograph, that would be great
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to photograph. And then it was
about a year and a half after high
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school. I looked into going to
the local community college for photography, but
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that was not a career that was
encouraged by my family, so I looked
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in other areas. But eventually,
fast forward down the road, I got
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there and I was able to go
to school for Photography and learn the things
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that I wanted to learn. That's
amazing. So you and I are pretty
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close. I did not know you
were a Jehovah's Witness. HMM, sure
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was. When, en did you
decide to step away from that? I
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was nineteen, you know. I
knew that I was gay and I knew
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that I wouldn't be able to come
out and be myself if I stayed in
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the JOOAH's witness organization. So I've
made a plan and got out and history
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from there. When you got out, would that be around the same time
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you continue to pursue your photography?
No, it did take me, you
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know, a couple of years because
I might whole world. It was gone,
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so I had to kind of restart
and rebuild, you know, myself,
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get a job, be able to
pay my bills, get my feet
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on the ground, and so school
kind of took a backburner for a minute
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and then, you know, it
took about three or four years maybe,
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until I was like, financially,
like okay, I can get my own
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loans, I can get my own
you know, everything. It takes time.
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That's a really powerful story, because
so many artists find themselves having to
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break away from whatever they were doing
and starting again and building from the ground
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up. For you, what was
the biggest challenge and how did you overcome
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it? The biggest hurdle was just
being okay with myself. At that point.
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It was like I didn't care what
anybody else thought. I had already
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left, you know, and I
was on my own, and now it
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was just being able to look in
the mirror and say, you know,
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I'm proud of being a gay man. I'm proud of making the choice of
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leaving what I knew and what was
safe to explore this whole new world.
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That was terrifying. You know,
I'm thirty six now and I look back
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at that nineteen year old and I'm
like, holy crap, like, how
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did I have the courage to do
that? So now you are internationally known
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for your photography. Do you remember
the time that you felt was your first
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big success? I had an exhibit
that I got to be a part of
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in London and the end of two
thousand and fifteen, and that was that
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moment where, like you know,
you flew across the world. You walked
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into a room and I not only
got to have a collective exhibit with other
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Queer Artists at the fringe film festival, but they had me do a solo
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exhibit as like the Opening Party for
the fringe festival week, and that was
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like you can't put those type of
feelings and emotions into words, because you
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walk into a room and all these
people there to see what you created.
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It's still like I've goosebumps now,
like it's it just blows your mind as
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an artist to get to experience something
like that. Your reputation definitely procede you
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for how wonderful your work is,
to the point where it's a little bit
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intimidating. I remember when I worked
with through the first time and didn't know
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you, I thought you were going
to have a bigger head than you do,
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but you actually one of the most
humble people I've known. How do
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you manage to keep your head in
your shoulders? I guess you said the
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word intimidated. To me, it's
like I'm just Ryan that works up in
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my little studio that takes pictures,
and it's like it's what I love to
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do. If I could do that
every day and just hold the camera and
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not have to go through, you
know, all the other side of you
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know, trying to promote yourself and
run a business, and just holding that
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camera and shooting to me just bring
so much joy. I think people see
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my work and you know, you
make a reputation for yourself, which is
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great, but I think sometimes people
don't realize that side to me, that
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like I just genuinely love taking pictures
and it brings me so much joy to
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do that. And one of my
favorite things about portrait photography is that you
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get to work with somebody to create
something that is not only making me feel
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good as an artist, but for
that person that's in the photograph, it
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gives them an opportunity to feel great
about themselves too. I do want to
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go back to your work here in
just a moment. But there was something
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interesting that you said that you just
want to hold the camera, but then
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learning more of the promotion and maybe
some more the business side was the struggle.
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How did you bring yourself to learn
that side so that you could be
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successful? Well, I had bills. No, it's it's hard these days
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because you can be an amazing artist
and you can love creating and you can
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create tons of things, but once
it's just sitting there and people can enjoy
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it or you're not able to make
money being an artist, it creates this
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weird situation. So for me it
was like, you know, a long
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time I just did photography for the
fun of it and then finally I just
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buckled down and was like, okay, you got to figure out how to
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run a business, because that is
not how my brain works. You know,
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the business side of things, and
really it is a it's a full
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time job, essentially, because you
never quit working. There's always more to
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do, there's always this could be
redone the this website can be fixed up
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or this. You know, it's
never ending. So when we talk about
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your work, your portfolio is extremely
diverse, your images are super expressive and
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do have strong story lines. So
in your opinion, what makes a good
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story? Well, it kind of
comes in different ways. If I'm working
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on a project for myself, that
is the easiest way because it's like,
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okay, these are the motions I'm
having, this is the subject matter I
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want to use and I'm going to
use these things to create something, to
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tell a story, hopefully that other
people can understand. But then there's also
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opportunities where, as an artist,
you just want to create things that maybe
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you don't intend for people to understand. So that's a completely different category.
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And the third, usually for me, is working with somebody where they come
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to you and say this is kind
of what I want to do, what
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is your vision? How can we
make this work together? And you know,
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a lot of times I don't even
think maybe either of us can know
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exactly what the story is going to
be that is being told or the motion
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that's going to come out of the
real images that are produced. But you
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know, just an example, you
know, I've had people come to me
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with items from, like their cancer
treatment and they're like, you know,
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I want to be photographed with this
to remember, like the battle that I
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went through. What can we do? And that's where you sometimes can't describe
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it. You know, it's just
that final image that's produced somehow just the
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emotions come out. Other examples of
you know, photograph people for like they're
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sixty five birthday and they've always wanted
to do like a partially nude photo shoot
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and they never got the courage until
they were sixty five years old, and
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then once that time comes and they
put that trust in your hand as an
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artist, you're like, oh my
God, it's a little overwhelming. It
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can be intimidating because you know you
want that person to feel good about themselves.
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So it's not always a cookie cutter
process, but it usually still ends
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up with the result of cookies.
We can definitely tell that you work with
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a lot of different people. What
are three things that you've learned about people
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from your work? Being a photographer, a portrait photographer, definitely teach you
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that we all have insecurities, like
every single person. There's not an exception
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in the book. And I guess
also, I mean we all just want
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to feel good and look good and
present ourselves to the world in a way
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that we feel sexy and beautiful,
no matter what our size, shape,
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you know, gender, it is. It just we all want to feel
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fabulous. Really, I guess third
thing for me would just kind of be
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the I mean I have a tattooed
on my wrist, is we are beautiful
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and I think deep down, hopefully, everybody can feel that at some point
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and I know sometimes it gets a
little hard to remember that. You know,
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myself included. There's not their days
where I don't feel beautiful, but
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you just have to keep like reminding
yourself. That's kind of been a mission
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statement, I guess, in a
way or form for my photography for quite
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a few years. Is that we
all are beautiful and you know, we
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all have a different, different beauty
to bring to the table. If you
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looked at all of your work,
what would you say your message is to
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the world? You know for a
few years now on my website that right
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at the beginning it says individuals expressing
their sexuality and identity, the nate beauty
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of desire, sex of life.
It's enjoyable for me, when I photograph
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people, to show different humans,
different body shapes, different genders, because
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I believe that representation in my artwork, like I want it to be diverse.
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The leather and fetish scene, I
know within that category itself. You
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know, I remember years back like
it was just all white dudes and in
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leather, and now slowly we're starting
to see a lot more people of color,
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you know, a lot more non
binary representation, transgender reser representation and
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also women represented, and it's it's
nice to see just my few years within
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the leather community that change kind of
slowly happening. I'm glad to be a
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part of it too, you know, like that's one thing in my photography
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work that I do make a conscious
effort to make sure that I'm showcasing different
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humans, because that is, as
a photographer, I believe, our job.
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You have always been very, very
conscious and I've always appreciated that about
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you. And what I appreciate about
you is that you put the work out
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there and just let it be what
it is. It's not trying too hard,
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it's not fake, it's very much
you see beauty in everything, and
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so that's what you're putting out there. I think that in at least are
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small little community, you have probably
changed the way people, I guess,
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imagine our view and images. You
know what different communities look like. Oh
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that's very kind of you, is
say from your experience, what advice would
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you have for others who may want
to do the same thing or be successful
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in their own craft? When it
goes for advice for other artists, I
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I mean I have multiple artist friends
and the first thing that usually always comes
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up in conversations is just try.
You have to try. If you don't
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try something, it's not going to
happen, whether it's the smallest little obstacle
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or a huge project that you want
to handle, you have to create and,
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as many artists, I from myself, two thousand and twenty was a
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year that I really had to force
myself to create, because otherwise you go
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crazy and people joke around thinking,
Oh, you know, artists always say
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they need to create to feel,
you know, like they're doing something or
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feel alive. And girl, it's
true. If you're not creating, it's
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like you don't feel that drive.
So for anybody that it doesn't matter your
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age, if you're just young old, if you want to create something and
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you feel that desire to do it, just do it. And one of
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my favorite quotes is a Andy warhol
quote, and he said, while people
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are judging your art, make more, or I believe it might have been.
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If people are deciding whether they like
or dislike your art, make more.
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But the point is like make it, stop worrying about what people are
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going to think about it and just
do it. And it's scary though,
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because, you know, when I
first started, I was always so worriedble
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what are people going to think?
What are they gonna you know, if
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I take a picture that, are
they going to think I'm weird? Are
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they? You know, why is
that guy in a gas masks, those
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type of things? And now it's
like, I don't care what anybody thinks.
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If I want to take a photo
of something, I take it and
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put it out into that world because
that's just the way it has to go,
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and if somebody likes it, they
like it. If they don't,
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they don't, all right. So
last question. In your own words,
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what do you think the key is
to a happy and fulfilled life? The
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key to a happy and fulfilled life
is kind of like we said earlier,
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if you want to do something,
go do it. Life is is short
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and it's happening right now. Like, if you are inspired by something,
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run with it. That's how I
found happiness. Over you know, especially
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in my s, it was like
if I wanted to go on a trip
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to see something, I would go. If I wanted to create a memory
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with my friends, create that.
If I wanted to do a certain art
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exhibit or a show or do a
photo series on a certain topic, just
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do it. One of the one
of my favorite exhibits I've ever done is
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that we are Trans Gallery, and
it literally was me and a friend and
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we were just chit chatting about how
cool it would be to have an exhibit
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with people's photographs and then them tell
their stories, and we both just looked
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at each other and we're like,
well, let's do it, you know,
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and we just did it and it
affected so many people and was such
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a good, positive experience, not
only for us but for the people involved
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and then for the people that got
to come and see the exhibit, and
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one of the most fulfilling moments of
my entire life, you know. And
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it just goes back to the simple
concept of if you want to do it,
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do it. Speaking of exhibits,
do you have anything planned for two
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thousand and twenty one that we can
know about now? I am still working
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with the Hennepin Trust, which is
the theater company down here on a few
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things coming up for the year.
So there's that, and then hopefully going
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to be having an exhibit. That
was supposed to happen last year but didn't.
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So but I don't want to say
where, when or anything like that
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because I'm not sure those details.
But my quite photographycom has my links to
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everything. Twitter, instagram, facebook. So all the informations there and it
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will be there as soon as it's
available. All right. Well, if
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you want to know the latest on
Ryan, that is quite photographycom and follow
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him on social media, definitely check
out his instagram, which is what's your
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instagram? Quite photography? Quite photography. He is posting stuff all the time.
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It's very interesting. I followed myself. I highly recommend and thank you
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so much, Ryan, for coming
on sack size and sharing your life with
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us. It is definitely so good
to have you, especially since you've been
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such a huge part of my journey. Well, thank you so much.
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I was happy to be here.
All right, snacks, until next time,
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go be fabulous. Hey Snack,
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