Conscious Childbirth: Mom of Eight's Guide to Reclaiming Your Power w/Queen

Jennifer Francis (00:00.014) While pregnant with my first son, around 21 years old, I started emrigine and I was brought to the hospital. And it was there for two weeks, but my doctor abandoned me, just left me there while I bled out for two weeks. I had to get blood transfusion. And so I lost that baby, had a stillbirth. Since then I've had three children, but I've had trouble with each pregnancy. My oldest living son,is 40 years old now, but he was born at 22 weeks, 23 weeks, sorry, at one pound, two and a half ounces. So I have had issues with problem pregnancy and hospitals. And so maybe this episode is for you because my guest queen talks about problem pregnancies as they're presented to us. So if you're pregnant or contemplating getting pregnant and you're confused or maybe scared, maybe this is the episode for you. Have a listen. Of course, check with your healthcare professional for any questions or consultation, but have a listen and let us know what you think about this episode. I hope it will help you. Thank you for listening. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (00:03.048) Today I have the pleasure of speaking with Queen Mother of Eight and the avid carer of women who are giving birth. Welcome Queen. Queen (00:17.07) Thank you. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (00:18.76) Sure, I appreciate you coming and talking to us on Solo Mums Talk. I'm sure you have a lot to talk about. And so to start with, I'm going to ask you to tell us who is Queen? Queen (00:33.454) Good question. Well, who is Queen? Who, who, who? I would say that I am somebody who follows my heart and that sometimes means that I go against the grain and can often get into trouble because of it. But when I'm really passionate about my beliefs, then I follow them wholeheartedly. And yeah, that's mainly what I feel that I'm here to do. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (01:05.896) Okay. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (01:12.84) Okay, all right, well, we have to carry that purpose out, otherwise we'll be miserable, right? Mm -hmm. Yeah. Queen (01:20.766) yeah, you can suffer. If you go against your true nature, it can cause suffering. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (01:26.224) Exactly. So one of the things that jumped out at me when we first connected was eight kids. Tell us about that. Queen (01:39.853) Well, I actually got my first child when I was 18, nearly 19. And that was a child that was gifted to me because I was in a relationship with her father. And I was pregnant with my son, so my first biological child. But I had to navigate being a step -mom first. And that presented a whole heap of challenges of its own. It's probably one of the most testing things I've ever embarked upon in my entire life. And yeah, and growing through it. So I had my first son in 1999, being in a marriage and being allergic to the pill, which could be a blessing as well. Yeah, just, I'm just so fertile. So the kids just kept coming. Hahaha! JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (02:37.48) Ha ha! Queen (02:40.204) I'm sorry. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (02:41.544) Okay now, all right, well this is a mom show. We're allowed to speak, so whoa, okay, cool. So, I mean, I'm curious because I had three sons and none of the births were easy and I had all three of them in a hospital. What is the difference between having your child in a hospital

and having someone like yourself. And if you could, tell us what you do. This is why I'm asking this question, because you do something different. But I'm sure you've had kids in the hospital. So explain the difference and why you do what you do. Queen (03:31.242) Yeah, that's an amazing question. In the hospital, you pretty much step into their domain, like the systematic way of doing things. So it's like an automatic loss of rights in many ways. And we really do trust the system and their experience and their knowledge as doctors and midwives. And we truly believe that they have our best interests at heart. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (03:42.312) Mm -hmm. Queen (03:59.786) And so we go through following them, listening to everything they tell us to do, and we just do it. And we seldom question that. And then, you know, things can happen, complications can happen. Like, for example, with my first son, I lost a ton of blood. It was classed as a postpartum hemorrhage. Following that, I suffered postpartum depression. Then I didn't really want to have children. But as I said, you know, I'm very infertile and all my attempts to not have kids, basically, I got kids. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (04:05.448) Yeah. Queen (04:28.265) So then I wasn't so happy being pregnant again after that first time. And then each time just being managed because once you've had a postpartum hemorrhage your clastor's high risk, wanted a water birth, got denied. And then it got to the point where with my third son I was told, you know, the baby would die, you know, he's under risk, he's got meconium in the waters, that's basically the baby opens the bowels inside of you, that we needed to get him out really fast and all of this stuff. And when he was born and they do the APGAR scores, he was basically 10, 10, 10. And in that moment, I felt like, all this fuss and all the things you said and look at that, the scores speak for themselves. And I had this almost like, anger inside of me at the same time as being happy, you know, and giving birth, like going through a pregnancy, becoming a mother, realistically, like when you feel into it in your body naturally, you'd say that that's like the most happiest time of your life. So why is it like overshadowed by anger or hurt or disappointment? And it's coming externally. It's not coming from within your being. It's coming from out. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (05:47.72) Queen (05:49.223) side of yourself, you know, with the establishment and the pressures that come with it. And I just felt like it's got to be different. If I ever have another child, it's got to be different. And then with the fourth child, I set out to make sure it would be. So I studied the system to understand it. And then I had meetings, I created a birth plan, I got the head of midriffy to sign off on it, the anaesthetist. And I really felt that this Birth plan that I'd created was somehow like bulletproof. Now finally I would have my wishes granted because they've been signed off. And when I was met with the opposite, when I got to hospital, I was shocked and yeah, deeply disturbed. I was in labor and imagine I left the hospital. I was fear mongered to believe in that I was gonna bleed to death and die and that my baby would die. So imagine. The hospital no longer felt a safe place for me and I'm walking the street in labor believing I'm going to die. But I just knew I could not go back to that place. It was so horrible the way they treat me. So I finally found someone that I could trust. It was the first time I ever found out about doulas as well, by the way, and home births. Imagine you're in a system yet no one ever talked to you about the possibility that you could even have a midwife at home. This came from a doula. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (06:49.352) Thank you. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (07:10.536) Okay. Queen (07:15.592) So anyway, I found out about the community midwives and she promised to meet me at the hospital. And for that reason, I went back. I trusted her. She really looked after me. And it meant that in the end, long story short, I finally felt like I got the birth that I wasn't exactly what I wanted, but what I could have, but more within my own power, if that makes sense, because I managed to have someone support me rather than have people against me. And when I saw that, JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (07:38.088) Mm -hmm. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (07:43.368) Yes. Queen (07:45.64) manifest and I knew that this was my doing but I also knew that I had to fight to get this. I felt like I don't want to fight anymore and with my fifth baby I wanted a home birth and I finally got a home birth but the midwife came and I finally got a water birth as well it's what I always wanted. So the midwife came and all the things that went beautifully well went well because of what I did. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (08:08.296) Mm -hmm. Queen (08:15.464) and the things that went wrong went wrong because of her. And so I realized I need to eliminate the midwife. So I actually left the country with my six baby. I went to live in Ecuador and I did that because I wanted to be under the radar. I didn't have checkups. I didn't visit the system. In fact, it was a complete test because I'm like the laboratory. I'm the experimental ground where my experiments take place. And so this birth was really helping me to find out. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (08:18.76) Mm -hmm. Queen (08:44.904) does nature suffice? Do the things in my mind about what I believe about natural birth truly exist or do we actually need the technology? Do we need the intervention? Do we need all that? So I ran the test and I didn't use that system at all. I just trusted in myself and nature. And of course, when you're testing nature, nature's also testing you. So my daughter was 18 days overdue. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (09:10.888) Mm -hmm. Queen (09:13.959) But I gave birth to her at home. She was born in the pool, just me and her father. And it was the best pregnancy I've ever had. And I realized it was just because I didn't have interference. I didn't have somebody telling me to go for this scan and frightening me, it's not growing fast enough. You need to go and do this and prodding and poking at me. And every time you go there, I realized it was just a stress. Literally, they put so much stress on women.

And they put stress on me and I realized this pregnancy was so beautiful because there was no stress. And then the birth was beautiful because there was no stress. And literally from that sixth birth, I told a friend of mine my birth story and she'd had one child, the child was four, she'd had a cesarean and she said, you know, when I have my next baby, I want you to be there. And nine months later, I was at her birth. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (09:49.16) Yeah. Yeah. Queen (10:11.845) and it just went from there. So that answers, how did I come to do what I do? It came because of having the answer that nature does suffice. And therefore I was able to support women through my own experience to show them how they are actually able to achieve the birth that their heart desires. And somebody was with them, me as a guide to say, you can, you can do this, you've got this. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (10:24.136) No JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (10:36.008) Yeah. Queen (10:41.253) So I prepare them through breathing and things like that. And what essentially I've been told, what I bring to the woman, they say to me, you gave me my power back. So that's the difference between having me or someone like me who gives you your power back rather than going through that hospital system that actually takes your power away and disempowers you. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (10:52.136) Mm -hmm. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (11:06.984) Yeah, yeah, I hear that and I see it around me actually, you know, the stress that moms go through when they're trying to have their children and all the stress is external as you say and coming from people who, you know, think they know better than mom, you know, so yeah, I really understand that part of it. well, all right. You mentioned your ancestral lineage and your mother had, your grandmother had 12 children. Tell me, tell us about that. Lord, Jamaica. I'm Jamaican, so full disclosure. Queen (11:43.459) Yeah, in Jamaica. Well, yeah, well, I think big families were just a common, a given, you know, a couple of generations back and home births were, you know, the whole thing about hospitals, it's a new thing, really. And yeah, my my great grandmother, she was JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (12:02.472) Yeah. Queen (12:14.082) knocking them out herself. And then of course, when you're just a pro at it, you've got so many, I guess then everybody from the neighbourhood's like, help me, help me. And that's how she did it. She just went helping people and she actually received my own mother into her hands. She passed away when my mommy was two. I never met her. And it was crazy because I went to meet the indigenous people in the JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (12:25.416) Yeah, yeah, yeah. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (12:35.112) Wow Queen (12:43.17) Amazonian jungle. I wanted to learn from them and they were basically like, we can't teach you. And it's not because they didn't want to, it's just that it's, they call it like an energetic transmission. It's the energy through the hands. So I'd literally have had to live my life with them to get, to receive that energy. So I'd have that intuitive knowledge of how to do birth. But they said to me, you know, he said, they said the fact that you've got it, like I didn't go to university to learn what I've got, for example. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (12:45.54) Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (12:54.728) Yes. Yeah. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (13:03.4) Mm -hmm. Queen (13:11.938) The fact that you have this natural ability to do this, there must be someone in your family that's a midwife somewhere. And I was really sad that they wouldn't teach me and I went there to be taught. And then I found out about her and it's like, my God, it's so true. And it went through my mum. My mum didn't receive the gift, but it got passed through and I received it. So yeah, it's amazing. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (13:25.672) Yeah. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (13:36.072) Yes, and to the third and fourth generation, yeah. Yeah. that's just, that's an inspiring story because like you said, we've pretty much turned our lives over to the system and you know, it's miserable. I mean, I have to admit and I think medicine has its place, but you know, we were created for a reason and we were given Queen (13:40.963) Yeah. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (14:06.44) We carried the child for nine months for a reason. You know, so, yeah, I'm glad there are people like you who are educating us and help, and you've lived through it eight times. So, you know, it's not like you're teaching something you don't know anything about. So yeah, yeah, I'm inspired. Okay. All right, thank you. So tell us about...The hummingbird way. What's that? Queen (14:39.202) So the Humminbird way is about like training. So as I said, I've never received any formal training myself to do that, which I do, that it's literally come through like experience and embodiment and me being the test ground. So through my experience, other people, they want to learn from me. So what it is, is I impart my experience and my knowledge to them. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (14:48.456) Mm -hmm. Queen (15:07.81) And then it's like, it's not my way, it's the hummingbird way. And when you receive the teaching, it becomes your way. And then you, that will show up because everybody's unique, everybody's different. So, so my way is unique to me, but what, what, the way I do it, for example, you wouldn't do it exactly the same because you're different, you're you and you're unique. So it become your way. And that's how that came. It's like, JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (15:11.496) Yeah. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (15:21.992) you JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (15:34.632) Bye. Queen (15:36.994) then it's the hummingbird way. And the hummingbird comes because when I was living in Ecuador, each time I'd go and meet with a mother, a couple, to know whether it was the right vibrational match that I should be with them for their birth, a hummingbird would literally come and confirm that. And so the hummingbird has played a massive role. And the more you read and find out about hummingbirds, they're very like what they call fifth dimensional. It's like... JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (15:55.848) Wow. Queen (16:05.121) They're so light and here and there, they're not like completely in this third dimensional realm. They're like spirit beings, if you like. And they carry the souls of the babies, but not just the unborn. Also, people who have passed away can often come back in the hummingbird. And so they give messages. And I used to receive messages from them in Ecuador, even like when I needed to contact the mother, when the mother went into labor. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (16:07.976) -huh. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (16:14.248) Bye bye. Queen (16:35.136) So it could be anything. The hummingbird would come and then I'd notice it and then I'd be like, and then I'd be like, right. And I'd contact the mum and that was the moment I needed to go. So they were supporting me in my birth work. It was amazing. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (16:43.656) Yeah. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (16:47.912) Yeah, that is amazing. You learn something new every day. That is good. I have a couple more questions to ask you, but I'm going to ask you to, you've told us how you help people, but give us your pitch and tell us how we can get in touch with you. Queen (17:14.304) I've never given a pitch before. So, okay. Well, I support women through something that I call the Breath of Birth and Beyond. It's where I teach women to get in touch with their bodies, their intuition, to listen to their babies, to trust themselves and basically breathe. It's a kind of hypnobirthing technique. And so that prepares the woman. Now, if the woman is wanting to do a birth on her own at home, the way that I did, it gives her the confidence to be able to do that. If she wants to go to the hospital, it gives her the ability to advocate for herself or be with somebody who can advocate for her on behalf of her. And she can use these techniques so that she can literally hold all the offers of drug pain relief at bay so that she can be in the process of consciously being aware of her body and feeling her body and using that to bring forth her baby essentially. So if somebody wanted, was interested in what I've just said and wanted that type of support, I do it physically in person, but I can also do it like this as well through Zoom or something. So they could find me by going onto my website, which is www .ourhummingbird .com and they could contact me through there or they could also type in like Our Hummingbird in Instagram and send me a message there as well. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (18:50.792) Okay, all right, I will put those links in the show notes as well so people could reach out to you should they need your service. Yeah, for sure. Okay, so what is Queen grateful for today? Queen (18:56.094) Thank you. Queen (19:03.486) I'm grateful for family. Yeah. And being here in this moment and having this opportunity to talk with you about what I'm really passionate about and yeah, and share the magic. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (19:16.808) Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We have to stick together, right? Yeah. So tell us, what are the key principles? You've generalized on what it is to have this special birth as it was meant to be, but what are the key principles of conscious birthing and peering? Queen (19:23.71) Yes, for sure. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (19:46.696) parenting that emphasize your teaching and how do they benefit, how do they benefit us. Queen (19:55.004) Well, the term conscious is like to be aware and awake. So if you think about from a clinical or a medical point of view, when you take the drugs that are on offer, what they do is they disconnect you from yourself. So they disconnect you from the feeling of the pain. Whereas if you're conscious about what you're doing, you're aware of it. You're aware of the pain.

And rather than see the pain as like an enemy, something that's hurting you that you need to get away from and escape, it's more like, how do I invite this feeling and basically like breathe through it and use it to bring forth my baby? Because the point is the cervix has got to expand, it's got to open up. So therefore the more intense the contraction, the... better job it's doing essentially. And each contraction, each wave brings your baby closer to you. No contraction, no baby. So we have to welcome it. And then we can breathe into it, which keeps us conscious because we're using the breath and we're using the breath to be aware of how we're feeling in the moment. But we also use the breath as a natural pain reliever, literally, to be able to use that breath and JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (20:50.12) Yeah. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (20:55.336) Yeah. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (21:08.936) Okay. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (21:13.544) Yeah. Queen (21:16.314) Literally, it's like you go into the pain, but the more you're able to relax and surrender into it, you come out on the other side. And it's what people call orgasmic birth, for example, that it can become orgasmic because the pain actually becomes pleasurable in many ways. So this is essentially...JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (21:24.776) Yeah. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (21:36.776) Mm -hmm. Queen (21:42.874) what it is to be conscious, it's connected to your body, connected to the experience. And personally, when I was conscious and feeling my body, feeling the experience, I was also conscious of the baby. Because essentially the baby knows how to birth itself. We as the mamas, we're opening up and letting that happen, or we're tightening up and closing and stopping it. So if we're like also listening to the baby and aware and conscious of the baby.

JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (21:59.72) -huh. Queen (22:11.065) We're working with the baby to allow that to take place because birth is a natural physiological process. Our bodies are wise. They know what to do. It's like in our DNA. We've been doing this for millennia. So being conscious allows you to tap into that as well. And then what happens for me is almost like I've got like I'm here in the body, but I'm also almost like here as well, like an observer, almost like my spirit's floating above myself. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (22:24.648) Yeah. Queen (22:39.416) observing everything that's happening as well. So it's like I'm getting this panoramic view almost, an external view, an internal view. And when you're conscious like that, you're literally connected to the entire process. And for me, the difference that I can tell you now is that with my first three or four babies, it was like the birth was happening to me. Something was being done to me. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (22:42.184) Mm. Queen (23:08.599) almost like invasion of the body snatches almost. This thing is like encroaching on me and I have to do it and it's happening to me. Whereas when you're conscious, it's like, it's happening through me. And so there's that release, you know, and your body's also conscious. So it's it's releasing. Whereas when it's happening to you, what are you doing? You're storing the energy and that can show us disease. You know, it could manifest as JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (23:10.952) Mm -hmm. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (23:22.376) Yeah, yeah, yeah. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (23:36.136) Mm -hmm. Queen (23:37.75) pain in the body somewhere and you could be holding this for years and not realise it's to do with your birth. Until you go and get acupuncture one day or you do a breath work session or something like that and then it's like, wow, you're releasing all this and you didn't even know your body was holding on to it. That's because you're unconscious. You had no idea. You weren't aware your body was holding on to it. So that's the difference. When you're conscious, your body's fully present in what's happening and therefore the energy is moving. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (23:52.136) Yeah. Queen (24:07.03) rather than getting trapped and stagnated. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (24:10.248) Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm. Yeah. I enjoy that explanation, and it makes me almost want to have a baby just to experience it. my god. But all joking aside, the way you explain the pain, I remember, I think it was my second birth. And after that, I mean, the pain was awful because I went through labor naturally. But. Queen (24:18.326) Yeah. Yeah. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (24:38.28) When the pain was gone, like when the baby was born, I didn't even remember the pain. It's like something else replaced that pain. And you explain it the way it happened. I just didn't know that's how it happened, right? Yeah. Queen (24:59.347) And the thing that you've got that replaces it is the oxytocin. It's a hormone and it's been called the love hormone. And there's no spike of oxytocin greater than the spike that happens just after birth when the mother looks eye to eye with that baby. my God. I mean, even me, it's like, it's causing me to like, I'll have chills just feeling it, you know, like in my body, just that look in that child's eyes. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (25:19.944) Yeah, yeah. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (25:25.704) Yeah. Queen (25:28.37) And yes, of course it's forgotten, but that's like the wonder of being human. You know, it's like the beauty and the power that we have as women. Because imagine if we did remember, we'd never have more than one. We'd be done. But that's why we're able to have more and more because it's all gone and it's replaced by the love bond between mother and baby that's so precious and just stays. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (25:30.664) Yeah. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (25:35.4) Mmmmm Yeah. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (25:41.96) No. Yeah. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (25:54.472) Yeah. Queen (25:57.81) forever, no matter how old our kids are. Do you ever stop loving them? No? They're still our babies. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (26:02.984) No, no. Yeah, they are, they are. And God does not make any mistakes. And he didn't make any when he made us. And yeah, wow. That's just absolutely enlightening. And for us to remember those things that we as women, we're powerful. We are the conduit to reach Queen (26:10.61) That's shy. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (26:31.912) that God uses to birth the world, really. And, you know, as bad as we're treated, we need to remember to treat ourselves better because, you know, we need that, right? Yeah. Queen (26:45.841) We do, and we need to be reminded of it. So it's so good that you said that, that all the women can just, just in this moment, just, just, just like take stock and be like, that's me. She's talking about me. And that's our truth. That's our reality. Yeah. Yeah. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (26:49.416) Ha ha! JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (26:56.392) Yeah. Yes. Yes, amen. All right. I really appreciate your queen coming and talking to me. I enjoy this conversation. But I want you to tell, talk to a solo mom, you know, because maybe she wants more children, but maybe the birth, the previous birth weren't that pleasant for one reason or another. Talk to her and encourage her about childbirth. Queen (27:26.64) Well, each and every pregnancy is unique, it's different. And when you've had a first baby as well, the body has never done that before. It doesn't know what to do and everything's happening new. So the first time can often feel like quite a daunting experience. And if we had more trauma during that time, it can put us off. And again, this can be like locked energy in the body that really needs to...be released and let go of. Because what's happened then, it's not forced that that's going to happen again. If you can be open, if you truly want children, you truly desire children, you allow yourself to be open to receiving another child, the likelihood of the next experience, it'll be so much more relaxed and so much better. And part of what I do with the Breath and Birth of Beyond is just that it's looking at JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (27:57.672) huh. Queen (28:22.832) any trauma, any worries, any anxieties, anything from the past. What we do is we bring it up only to really transmute it. That means we're changing it. We're changing the negative story and replacing it with a positive one. All the things like being fearful. If we fear that thing, we're actually more likely to face that thing. If we believe that the birth is going to be really horrible based on the last experience. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (28:43.816) Yes. Queen (28:48.623) You can probably guarantee that the second birth is going to be really horrible based on the last experience. But if we start to believe this is a different scenario, each birth is unique, and I am here to birth my baby in bliss, and you start to give yourself positive messages, positive affirmations, you truly believe them, then that's what you will get the second time. So just, I would recommend that like,JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (28:53.48) Yes. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (29:06.92) huh. Queen (29:15.408) Maybe do some inner work, like I don't know whether it's like breath work or whatever you feel you need, speak to somebody, release, really process it, cry. Crying is, you know, a release. It's an overflow of emotion and you let that come out. There's healing in the tears, but let that old story go. And when you're able to let that go first, you'll be open to creating a new. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (29:29.832) That's how I was. That's how I was. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (29:36.168) Yes. JRosemarie Francis (Jenn) (29:40.616) Yes. Amen. Shift the mindset and heal the problem. Yeah. So you can do what we're made to do. Yeah. Awesome. Thank you, Queen, for coming and talking to us and Solomon's talk. I really appreciate you. Yeah. Queen (29:48.815) Yes. Queen (29:55.695) Yeah, me too. Thank you.