757: Skinwalkers, UFOs👽, & Conspiracy - Legends, Lore, & Government Lies

Brian Nichols  
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Aidan Mattis  
Hey, Brian, how you doing? Doing good,

Brian Nichols  
buddy. Good to have you back on the show what's been new over in your world and over at the lore Lodge.

Aidan Mattis  
We're just off of a YouTube not liking me very much band because I decided to cover sound of freedom. So that that went great i that we started talking about it. And then suddenly two of our videos date about a third of the normal views. And then ironically, the video on sound of freedom that we put out, which is almost two hours long. I will say off the bat if if you're looking for a video that covers both sides that the allegations against Tim Ballard know you are as well as some of the bullshit that vise put out. I will recommend my video for that. The reason we did it is there was not a video on the internet that did it. So ours is very balanced. It looks at both sides of the issue addresses the claims from both groups. There's some stuff that oh, you our operation Underground Railroad absolutely, definitely did the wrong thing on. There's also some criticisms from groups like vice that are complete BS. So if you're interested in any of that, go check it out. We could use the views. But yeah, so we were like how do we how do we how do we bounce back from that? What's something we haven't covered in a while but something that did really well back when we first did it something before the channel became a big deal. And we've settled on Skinwalker Ranch because while everybody knows it as Skinwalker Ranch, the majority of the stuff that allegedly happened there is more UFO oriented than it is Skinwalker oriented about everything that's been going on recently, in these last few weeks with these these UAP UFO hearings, we were like, Oh, well, we should we should cover this, we should roll it all into one. And so that that appears to have been the right thing to do based on the YouTube algorithm. But I thought I'd kind of get started here by talking about skinwalkers and Skinwalker Ranch because there's a a massive misconception here around what those actually are. Yeah, what is the Skinwalker? Like I've heard the term but I've never really dug into the mythology of what it actually is. So I'm sure you've you've probably seen little like memes and videos about them but like what, based on what you've seen what would you assume this is what you like, it's like

Brian Nichols  
a I don't know what to call it is a thing that can turn itself into something that will try to lure you into some nefarious position or situation work and then attack and destroy you eat you something like that.

Aidan Mattis  
It's actually a lot more on brand than a lot of the people have it i The version that I was seeing on Tik Tok in 2021 which was different from the version that came across on like I funny, 4chan, Reddit back and back like 10 years ago was oh, your your dog is behaving strangely. Skinwalker the Amazon delivery driver Skinwalker Okay, I did see that. Yeah, it can transform into anything at all that it so chooses. And now, the version I was familiar with, is that this is a like cannibalistic shapeshifting monster. Yeah, Navajo folklore, which, okay, almost, it turns out and I had to get corrected on this by a number of Native American folks. So I'm actually grateful to him for telling me hey, you have this wrong? Because a lot of what I do is not necessarily Hey, look at this spooky monster. Aren't you scared? I'm more of a like, you know, cultural comparison kind of guy. I look at what's the same with this. What's different about this is what does this tell us about when these two cultures might have first interacted? Do they have similar folklore that defies the archaeological context? You know, questions like that are what gets me going. So those people corrected me and I'm grateful what it actually is what a skinwalker actually is. And again, this is still the best version I can give you it might not be entirely accurate. Because it's a closed practice Navajo. Don't love talking about this to outsiders because a lot of people don't take it seriously. But what I learned is that it's actually a more like a witch, a medicine man, a shaman doing a a ritual that is referred to as bad Add medicine. So medicine in this context doesn't just refer to specifically, you know, what we think of as pharmaceuticals, we're thinking of any mixture, herbal potion brew, that's going to cause some sort of experience or effect on the body. So just more general, like drugs is kind of the term that gets applied to it. Now, in modern English, I just don't want it to seem like we're talking about Native Americans out in the desert, you know, doing all sorts of drugs for fun. This is a very serious practice. And what it is, is people will use magic to transform themselves either spiritually or physically, appearance wise into a, a creature of some sort. So, the most common ones you hear like coyotes, wolves, dogs. And what a skinwalker has to do to get to this point is that there's a number of things that have to be guided through the process by somebody who already is a skinwalker. So there's a community aspect to this hierarchy system of elders. It's all taboo, though you can't talk about out in the open. So you have to follow some steps.

Brian Nichols  
There's just so much more to this than I thought, oh, yeah, yeah. It's this little it's this creature that attacks and eats people like no aliens come in is like, no, no, there's a whole mythology to there's a whole backstory to this, or I could keep going, man, you

Aidan Mattis  
know. So yeah, you, you contact the elder, you get initiated. And the big step, the important part that everybody seems to recognize, the one thing I could find that is genuinely universal to this mythology, is that you have to commit an act of violence and betrayal. That is generally the same act. The idea is you've got to kill a close family member, a friend, somebody who matters to you, you have to sacrifice that bond of love and friendship, in order to be able to achieve the powers of the Skinwalker, which again, can range from you gaining the instincts of a given animal, all the way through to physically transforming into that animal, depending on which version of the story you're hearing. So that's what skinwalkers actually are, they're not. And yes, they do do those little things like calling out for help from the woods. And there are the, you know, don't go whistling in the woods at night kind of things. There's all these little folklore stuff about skinwalkers that are actually pretty common to anything. But the specific stuff with these is that they commit an act of violence against somebody they care about, they then duck kill and done the health of the animal they want to take over the powers of and then from there, it's a little bit more murky, and all we know about how to kill them is they don't like sage and cedar. And well, well, a medicine man or a shaman might have more tools at their disposal, the average person is best suited, creating a fire burning some stuff down till it's white ashes coating your bullet or blade in that and then using that till the Skinwalker which of course you at that point must shoot it in the head or the heart. Interesting. So that's how skinwalkers work. And you might be wondering, how the hell does this have to do with the ranch? And that was the question I had even after looking through everything. Because yes, there there are some legends about this area in Utah, Utah basin being the path of the Skinwalker because back during the 1800s, the ute side with the United States against the Navajo and the United States and the EU, collectively then sent the Navajo on their own version of the Trail of Tears, which only like half of them survived. They were eventually allowed to come back and the legend so it goes I haven't heard this from an actual native american source. But I've seen it all over some various folklore sites on the Internet. The idea is that the Navajo curse that land that the you drove them from to be the path of the Skinwalker to be infested with skinwalkers and that they all live in this place called Dark Canyon, which isn't far from Skinwalker Ranch. And so there's this general mythos about skinwalkers in the area, but the story from the Sherman ranch Skinwalker Ranch that is really always brought up here. That is specifically their very first day there on the ranch. They buy it from the Meyers family the Meyers family have been there since 1905. And had reported absolutely nothing out of the ordinary, the Sherman's get their their very first day. They're putting the catalogs pasture and they see a large wolf that walks over a large bowl for coyote it's unclear what it is that walks over to the cattle pen and grabs a calf and keeps trying to drag it out. But it can't get it through the bars. So Terry Sherman and his dad run over and they start beating the thing it won't let go won't get off. Terry pulls out of 357 Magnum and shoots it and it doesn't like go he shoots it a second time. Let's go kind of looks at him and calmly walks away. Now you shoot anything point blank with a 357 it's gonna react and do some damage in this case the story goes, they shot it, it didn't even react when they shot it the second time it kind of got annoyed and left. And I want to be clear there is very little evidence that any of this stuff the Sherman said happened actually really happened? The cattle mutilations. Yes, there's pictures. But the other stuff that UFOs they say they saw all of these wolf incidents, some of these like shining orbs that I'll talk about a moment. I don't want it to sound like I'm saying all of this definitely happened and you need to care. I just want you to understand what the mythos is here. So yeah, but then they follow the coyote slash wolf off in the distance, and the tracks just seem to stop the treeline, the it's as if it just disappear. So that's odd. There's also an incident where Gwen, Gwen Sherman, I believe is her name, the wife saw a tall, large wolf that was as tall as her sedan or as tall as her car, which it didn't say what kind of car but even if it was a sedan, we're talking about like an almost five foot tall Wolf. Wolves, on average, are 30 inches tall at the shoulders, that's huge. There'll be a massive Wolf. That's a little odd. She also notes another canine, there's a couple other mentions of canines on the ranch. But that's really the only Skinwalker related stuff. Because yeah, if you were to encounter a tip, traditional Skinwalker, that can take the form of an animal, and you were to shoot it with a regular steel or brass bullet, it's not going to do anything, it's just going to bounce off, the thing is not going to be bothered had they shot it with a bullet with white ash than theoretically, if this is a skinwalker, it would have penetrated. They have some sort of magical thing that they can't be harmed by normal weapons. But white ash for some reason breaks that. Interestingly enough, there's some burials that I cannot remember off the top of my head exactly where they were. But it was not the Navajo region. I want to say they were Algonquin of some kind, but I might be wrong. That what they found is there were very large skeleton, six and a half, seven foot tall people buried deep underground, surrounded by a ring of normal size people five, eight to six foot. And these are the taller skeletons, all of the skeletons, but specifically the taller ones were coated in white ash. This is a completely different region of the United States, completely different culture completely different folklore. So for some reason, it seems very widespread that white ash was seen as something that had to do with death in Native American cultures, which is interesting. I don't know enough about it to know why that is. But when you get past the Skinwalker stuff at the ranch, it becomes clear that most of what we're dealing with here is spatial anomalies, UFOs, things like that, because they talk about 40 foot long box like aircraft, they mentioned that there's been everything from cigar shaped to round to cones, like very strange shapes, stuff that are two or three football fields long. And you look at a lot of it and you're like, Okay, well, some of this stuff could have been blimps. Some of this could have been experimental aircraft, were only 380 miles from area 51. We're only 125 miles from Hill. So there's there's a few different air force bases in the region known for testing experimental aircraft. But they do talk about some stuff that I find very odd. And I want to again, emphasize that a ton of this that they talked about does not have great evidence. And I don't totally trust Jeremy Cordell or George Knapp. I don't trust any journalists, I specifically trust even less the UFO journalists. Because they are all very inclined to stretch the truth if it benefits them in my experience, regardless, and that also applies for cryptozoology and certain folktale oriented communities. I don't want to make it sound like I'm just going after the UFO people and I'm not even saying that I don't necessarily believe that there could be aliens. I if I was shown proof that there were aliens I would I would go okay, there's aliens. I just am not like super into it. I'm not a Coast to Coast AM kinda guy. I. But they

Brian Nichols  
pause real quick. I am curious to that point. What would you actually consider to be proof of aliens? Like what would you accept as proof?

Aidan Mattis  
I wouldn't be pretty hard to convince, especially with how far AI and deep fakes and all of that are coming. You know, if you could get I think I'd basically need to, I need to see the live video feed of them stepping off the ship and shaking hands with Biden. I think that would that would do it for me. If I saw that, I'd be like, okay, there was live on multiple news stations, including independent media, you could get me there. But you know, to kind of do a hard segue to the recent hearings. I'm completely unconvinced by these hearings because what I'm what I'm seeing is them saying Did you find pilots? And they're like, there were non human biologics.

Brian Nichols  
Which could mean anything. It could be a cat.

Aidan Mattis  
Exactly. That's what bugs me is like non human biologics means there could have been atmospheric bacteria found on a very much terrestrial aircraft. Right. Like also. That's not a response to the question. Did you find pilots the the response to that would be no, we did not find pilots or yes, we found Pilots, not there's non human biologics and it does not remotely for a second escape me that this comes out. As soon as Trump's getting indicted yet again, right. And Hunter Biden's plea deal falls through establishment is working overtime to make sure because because here's the thing the Republicans know they're, they're screwed. Like they know it's they're getting Trump. They cannot kill Trump indictments haven't killed Trump. Nothing's killing Trump. The only thing that can stop Trump is whether or not the voters vote for Trump. So I think they know that they need to keep him under wraps. I think the Biden's are very aware of how bad things are. So I think they're trotting out you if it was, again, just like they trotted out UFOs in April of 2020, just as we started to realize that a certain pandemic was not as under control as we thought it was. And prior to that, they rolled it out in 2018, around the same time that a whole bunch of Russian diplomats were expelled from 20 plus countries. And it goes back further and further. Every single time there was something important going on in the world that the US government wants our attention focus elsewhere, there's aliens.

Brian Nichols  
So is it fair? Is it fair to ask the question, I guess, are aliens all contrived from the government? I mean, going back to 1947 with Roswell, right when this whole conversation really took off, no pun intended, but like, that's, that would fit right in line with the creation of our security state, right? This is a post world war two world now you have things like the FBI, the CIA, eventually the NSA starting to grow and grow and grow powers, you know, pretty much unencumbered so they can do what they want. And with this, it makes it perfect. The perfect cover story. So I guess I'm saying all that Aiden, is it, necessarily a conspiracy so much to say that it makes sense that the government maybe not only uses the alien conversation, but dare I say, helped create the conversation to help pull attention away from when things like Trump indictment Hunter Biden plea deal falling apart? Biden scandal just starting to really catch on fire? Like all these really important things pop up? It's no look at shiny object.

Aidan Mattis  
Yep, I think that I would absolutely say 100%, the government has used UFOs and aliens as a shiny object to red herrings to distract us from stuff. I don't know that I would go so far as to say that they started it on purpose. But there have been a number of different aircraft that we've tested that have not looked like aircraft in the typical sense. We have seen what the Nazis had, at least in terms of what their their prototypes and their plans look like. I think that it's very possible. That would happen in 1947, was an experimental aircraft crashed near Roswell. And the government was like, we don't want anybody finding out about this, because we don't want the Soviets knowing what we might have. That very much could look like the government covering up aliens, you get a couple of people who already believe in aliens who see it all happen, maybe get in there, get to the newspapers, get some photos first before anyone else can kind of get the censorship apparatus fully going. And then what do you have? Well, the government can't comment on it because it was top secret aircraft that they didn't want people to find out about. There's absolutely no civilian idea. Like we do not have the modern internet in the modern press. The average civilian had no idea what the government was up to. So you can very easily see a a conspiracy wildfire start. And what can the government do? If it's not if it is aliens, the government can really only do one, two things. They can either completely hide it, or they can say, yeah, it's aliens, which opens up a whole new set of problems. And they then have to prove it's aliens, they have to show you the aliens. So if there's not aliens, there's really only one option. You can't say it's aliens. But you can't deny its aliens without everybody assuming it's aliens. Right? So you have to take this weird, ambiguous stance, where you're like,

Brian Nichols  
ah, non human biologics.

Aidan Mattis  
We're not going to talk about it. We'll let you we'll let you wander because it's better for everybody. If the US if the populace and Russia and China all think that area 51 is looking at aliens rather than a nuclear missile that you can't detect. Right there's a there's they would much rather it be that there's also a reason when you look at you know, area 51 That it's got the kind of security it has that you know, it's not you you can't fly over there at all, without being threatened by Epstein's. I feel like that level of secrecy only applies to stuff you're testing above ground because anything that They will be testing with aliens would be tested underground. Right? So it's more than they don't want you seeing whatever is going on in the air. In my opinion, you know, so like I said, I'm not I'm not saying that aliens don't exist. But when I look at what's going on with with the government right now, and I look back at some of the stuff that was said about Skinwalker Ranch, for example, one thing was that they saw orbs of light emerging from Orange rimmed portals that were just in midair. And of course, it's like, well, what is that? Because that sounds that doesn't sound like any sort of experimental technology I've ever seen or heard about. That one has me interested. Why is the focus on the the big shiny object in the sky and not the portal commentary? Right? What What's with somebody who's created a wormhole on planet and we're not talking about it? Because we're too busy talking about the flying saucers. You know, I just I think that the the genuinely trying to think the best way to phrase this, I don't I think we're looking for the wrong things. I don't think that a UFO is going to look like our an aircraft we understand. Think about go back and watch Star Wars. Star Wars had giant death lasers in space. Star Wars had repulsor technology. It had Vitol aircraft, it had all sorts of stuff that was already being talked about. It did not have cell phones, it did not have plasma screen TVs. It did not have even you didn't even have graphic user interfaces. We cannot comprehend the technology of the future. We like to think that we have ideas and every once in a while we get something right. But we really don't know. And we're also assuming that aliens that come here and you know, the one thing I could see, with the non human biologic stuff, non terrestrial biologics, whatever they said. The one thing I could see there is that we're talking about a biological drone, something that is organic matter, that maybe even can think and process things through electrical impulses. But that isn't living in the way we totally understand it. If, if that's what they're talking about. Now, I'm intrigued, but what non terrestrial biologics would have to mean to me is not it's something biological that came from space, it would have to be we can't classify that we don't know what that is. If they came forward and said that, then I'd be intrigued. Otherwise, it just sounds like word salad to try and distract.

Brian Nichols  
And going back by the way to the the idea of aliens being contrived by the government, right? You kind of see the test case. So 1947 is Roswell, nine years earlier in 1938. You have Orson Welles is war the world. Yeah. And the the reaction from the public was mass hysteria. And I thought it was real. Right, exactly. I think that opened the eyes to powers that be because all of a sudden, they realized how, I mean, they knew that fear was powerful, but just how fear inducing the idea of an alien invasion people from out of this world Little Green Men from from Mars coming and invading how that was able to turn everybody into mass hysteria. So if that may be planted the seeds and then all of a sudden have that in the back pocket to say, again, look at shiny objects, stop looking at the actual things that are important, the things that we're working on behind the scenes, and said, Look at the little green man, or at least believe that to be the conversation now, that doesn't change the conversation that you have folks out there like, Steven, what's his name from the documentary, Steven Landsberg, Steven Landsberg from Superbad. That's really funny. Steven, what's his name? Do you know I'm talking about?

Aidan Mattis  
pinker but I can No, no, I'll,

Brian Nichols  
I'll look it up. You riff for a second don't even look it up.

Aidan Mattis  
Yeah, I'm just thinking about it. And I mean, on the one hand, I want to believe I think it'd be fun, but also I just see like, when you think about when all of this is going on, all this alien stuff is really peaking. It's all during the Cold War. Steven Greer, by the way, Steven Greer got it. Yeah, it's all there during the Cold War. And it's when you think about it, what what would you prefer that the average person isn't thinking about? Right? Probably nuclear annihilation. Exactly. Yeah. So if you're not if you want to keep the not using the term low IQ here is a derogatory but if you want to keep the low IQ people from freaking out about nuclear annihilation and asking questions, give them the UFOs Yep. What you should really be worried about? Is those people up in space, why don't you go look for it? Suddenly, you've, you've gotten rid of an entire percentage of your population that's going to be asking questions that you did not have an answer to. Nor did you have the capability to communicate what was going on to those people. There's just far too many possibilities.

Brian Nichols  
Yeah, yep. Well, man, this is I think this is something it's It's curious to keep an eye on right now, because of the timing. And, and the the insistence of having these conversations about aliens from the government, the ones leading the conversation makes me raise my eyebrow. Actually. It's the libertarian inclination. I think I'm just a little, a little skeptical at my core,

Aidan Mattis  
libertarian leads you to not believe in aliens because the government said they might exist.

Brian Nichols  
Does that mean it's like 2012 conspiracy theorists aliens are real 2023 conspiracy. It's conspiracy theorist Aliens aren't real. In but truly right in you look at what the government does. And I guess this will be my final thoughts before I turn it over to you Aidan, for your final thoughts. When you look at what the government does, in its communication, or in many senses, lack thereof, with the public, in many situations, especially over the past three years, where we saw this firsthand where government was telling you one thing, and then we see behind the scenes, they knew, and we're acting on completely different information than they were putting out, right? Whether it's Dr. Fauci saying, you know, wear a mask, even though months earlier, he's saying masks won't do anything for respiratory virus. He was on camera, he openly was saying they think it was a waste of time to try to use the cloth masks that you had, you'd find that you know, or you'd make it home. And you'd only really be able to use those high surgical grade and 95 masks or better.

Aidan Mattis  
First political news and government like statements I can remember our and I'm not kidding you. The very first political issue I remember is that our weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, there you go. I am 25 years old right now, the very first thing I remember as like a five year old boy, politically, was weapons of mass destruction. In Iraq. The very first thing I remember about the US government telling me something is one of the most famous lies in history. Yeah. And I suppose supposed to grow up like this.

Brian Nichols  
Yeah. And like, I know people to this day who still stick to those original narratives, right. And it's because of the trust that your average citizen, I think, just implicitly gives government entities because they were raised in this this government education slash indoctrination system, where you trust the government, you pledged your allegiance to the country and to the government every single day. And this is just kind of like the world they grew up in is that yeah, this is just what we do. Right? This is the way it's always been, which, as a sales guy, that's like the worst phrase to ever hear any customer say, because I know that they just embrace the status quo. Whereas folks, like you, Aiden, who go out and you do the work, you're you're you're questioning the traditional narratives, and you're bringing actual stuff to the table, that while it may look at the stuff, you're you're gonna question it yourself, you're gonna challenge it from a skeptics perspective, and I love that about your show. I love that you bring that perspective, that energy, because I think you're more representative of the up and coming generation, specifically in Gen Z, where you see, there is this desire for kind of like an understanding of why instead of just like the like, yeah, government just does this. Okay, well, why, right, actually starting to ask those questions. I'm really, I'm hopeful to see that we continue down this path, especially with recent data coming out, showing that there was a massive jump in high school men who are now identifying as a conservative leaning. So that's something I think we should be keeping an eye on. But I think you know, with that being said, the UFOs conversation Skinwalker Ranch, yes, these are all things that it makes it easier to maintain the conversation, especially when you're the government perpetuating the narrative. But that's my final thoughts. Aidan. What do you have on your end?

Aidan Mattis  
Yeah, I mean, as for me, I think, I think that there are some very interesting and compelling arguments for aliens for extra dimensional beings, all sorts of really cool stuff we can look at. I just think that we also need to be very careful when we're dealing with this stuff, to not fall for the obvious nonsense, the grifting the people are just in it to make a quick buck. There's some cool stuff out there. There's some legitimately unexplainable phenomenon that have that is public knowledge that they want to move us away from so they keep pushing us towards the dumb stuff. That's why your TV is filled with entertainment that is not trying to inform you, but to distract you and Yeah, sure there's there's a place for that. And to some extent, it's self fulfilling. That is the media we consume. That is the media that we pay for. So that's the media we continue to get. But even when the the documentary style stuff is watered down and made to seem like it's conspiracy theory, that's when I started to question the motivations, the ulterior reasons that somebody might be wanting to display something in a way that makes everything out. Well, that's ridiculous. No, I think that there's There's more than meets the eye to this world, there's certain things that we absolutely don't understand. I mean, to try and explain electricity to somebody 150 years ago, it's not going to go very well. Even though we had it, we had electricity 150 years ago, go and explain it to some farmer living in Alabama,

Brian Nichols  
if I may. And just to add in reverse to people. So quickly, forget the past. Go ask your average person, tell me five facts about your great, great grandpa. Yep, you're gonna get deer in the headlights look, right. And that just speaks to how quickly the information is lost, and why it's so important for us to continue to have these conversations. And frankly, to do what we're doing. I hate when people were like, well, you know, while you're gonna waste your time, you know, but I guess like, yeah, we're having a conversation, to document like history to document reality to document.

Aidan Mattis  
As a historian, this is the best period ever. Right? Like, I have the historians of the future, it has so much material to work with. I mean, almost probably too much material, there's going to be a PhD student assigned to like every single podcast that ever happened to them. Because most of the projects out there, not very good. But

Brian Nichols  
yeah, well, your average podcast also never gets past 10 episodes. So that's, we're at 757 ish. So I guess we're,

Aidan Mattis  
where do we get our 100? Like a few weeks ago?

Brian Nichols  
Man, cool. But yeah, man, and you guys are crushing it, by the way? And how about this is a segue to as we're wrapping things up here, folks, please go support Aiden at the lower Lodge, like you guys are absolutely crushing it over there. You've been working your asses off and it's paying off you guys are are getting hundreds of 1000s of subscribers, you're getting millions of views. You guys are absolutely crushing it. So please tell us where folks can go ahead. support you guys follow you on social media, but also, you know, support the Laurel Lodge, give us a little bit more background there and work can folks go ahead and support you there?

Aidan Mattis  
Sure. So for the Laurel Lodge, that most direct way people can support is we have a Patreon profile that is just the lore Lodge. You can subscribe for as little as $1 a month that is, you know, that compounds and it's huge and it's awesome. So thank thank you to everybody who currently does that too. But that's the most direct way. If you want to follow us we are the lore lodge on YouTube, the lore lodge on Instagram, the lore lodge on Twitter. We're the lawyer lodge basically everywhere and then me personally I am at the eighth and Mattis which is spelled the same way as you see on your screen right now. Or at at Madison Twitter.

Brian Nichols  
Is it Twitter? Is it x.com Aiden? What is it I hate the fact that they changed it because now I didn't see though by the way, did you see Elon tweet about the possible the middle ground the Twitter bird into the X?

Aidan Mattis  
I could I could do that it last winter by x that would have been the easy option.

Brian Nichols  
Here keep talking for a second I'm gonna pull this up really quick. Like um,

Aidan Mattis  
I get what he was doing I get the thought process or like X the X app or the but there's I think getting rid of all the Twitter specific stuff was not a good idea like the retweet and you know, it's a brand man it's a brand and I get what he's doing but it is all very I think this is where his and I say this is somebody who has a tendency to do same kind of things. I think this is where his autism gets to him it's like he had he had this idea and he stuck with it and he is now completely dead set on achieving it and nothing will stop him and I've been there myself so I get it but

Brian Nichols  
Byrd I think he may have deleted the tweet he had it look it looked legit it was the X logo but with one hat like one part of the X line was the Twitter bird like kind of doing this like Phoenix looking thing actually look good. I thought it looks good and now I can't find it unless it was a parody and I got trolled which could have happened but if that was the case, maybe you launch it take some advice because it looked like a really good logo but anyways, yes, go ahead please folks support the Laurel large support Aiden please follow yours truly also on Twitter slash x.com as well as on Facebook at be Nichols liberty and while we are demonetized here on the YouTubes we are not demonetized over on Facebook. Well that's I know surprise surprise. I go from three years ago being this close to losing my age and having an unpublished over on Facebook to that actually saying yeah, we can monetize you why not? So if you want go ahead and give us some some with a Facebook stars or something, I can go ahead and do that. At or support the show, over on Patreon become a five or $10 a month supporter, or you can go ahead and give us a one time donation over there as well Brian Nichols show.com forward slash support. And by the way, I do have to go ahead and give a shout out to today's sponsor, and I'll go ahead and share my screen. Our sponsor today is our our store which is supported by proud libertarian and here you can go ahead and get our liberty legends shirt. If you look at our shirt here on the YouTube rumble or sovereign streams as you're watching here today. You'll see on your screen right now a lot of noted Liberty legends like Ron Paul, Thomas Sol, Murray Rothbard, Walter Williams, and more. So if you wanna go ahead and get your liberty legends shirt head over to Brian Nichols show.com forward slash shop it'll bring you right over to a proud libertarian store where you can grab your your shirt or anything else we have over there swag beyond Well, I can explain here on the air today, bumper stickers, backpacks, hats, all that and more. Just use code TBNS at checkout for 15% off of your order, folks, thank you for joining Aiden on and Anya and also folks, by the way, I mentioned YouTube rumble and sovereign if you are joining us over there please do me a favor hit that like button, subscribe button and also little notification bell so you miss a single time we go live and by the way, if you are joining us over on sovereign s o v r e n o congratulations. You're seeing today's episode before anybody else that's your sovereign exclusive and I am a big fan of Ben swans independent media entity that is sovereign. So if you've not checked it out yet, please go ahead and do so Aiden, thank you for joining us. And folks, thank you for joining us. We appreciate you sticking around and sticking yes as we go through our conspiracy corner all things UFO, skinwalkers and more. So with that being said, Brian Nichols signing off here on The Brian Nichols Show for Aiden Mattis. We'll see you next time.

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