Constitutional expert Christopher Nesbitt makes the case that properly understanding the founding principles and purposes laid out in the preamble is a vital yet overlooked key to addressing polarization, restoring cooperation, and realizing the founders’ unifying vision for America.
Could the purposes of the US Constitution really be contained in a single paragraph?
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On today's episode, host Brian Nichols explores this intriguing idea with constitutional expert Christopher Nesbitt. Their illuminating discussion tackles fundamental questions about America’s founding principles.
Delving into the preamble of the Constitution, Nesbitt shares his motivation behind writing an in-depth “guide” to properly understanding every word within this vital section. He explains why comprehension has become so critical in today’s polarized climate.
The conversation spotlights the overlooked differences between “liberty” versus “freedom” - a nuance many don’t grasp. Nesbitt offers insight through examining dictionary definitions from the era, helping clarify the Founders’ precise intended meanings.
Analyzing modern applications, Nichols raises interesting examples related to COVID vaccine mandates. They debate potential conflicts between individual liberty and collective public good. This thought-provoking dialogue explores how constitutional principles apply to contemporary challenges.
Throughout the wide-ranging nonpartisan discussion, Nesbitt emphasizes the unifying power of developing a complete grasp of the Constitution’s purposes. He makes a compelling case that shared understanding facilitates cooperation and progress.
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Brian Nichols
What if I told you that the six purposes for the US Constitution could all be found in one paragraph? Yeah, let's talk about that. Instead of focusing on winning arguments, we're teaching the basic fundamentals of sales and marketing and how we can use them to win in the world of politics, teaching you how to meet people where they're at on the issues they care about. Welcome to The Brian Nichols Show. Oil Hayner. Folks, Brian, you're on The Brian Nichols Show. And thank you for joining us. Of course, another Chrome's built episode, I am as always your humble host joining us live from our cardio miracle Studios here in lovely Eastern Indiana cardio miracle. They have been a sponsor here for the show going on six months now. And I gotta tell you, folks, the cardio miracle difference is in fact real. I say that as not just someone who promotes cardio miracle, but as a user myself, and why am I a fan of cardio miracle? Well, beyond that the extra pump I get at the gym, beyond the better sleep I get at night. But also, how about that lower blood pressure as well, cardio miracle is easily the best heart health supplement I have ever used. And frankly, it's probably the best art health supplement on the market. So if you want to join the 10s of 1000s of other folks like yours truly, who are experienced in the cardio miracle difference for ourselves, we'll head to the Brian Nichols show.com forward slash heart cardio miracle right there at our homepage as well click the link or if you're joining us today on YouTube, all links here in the description, cardio miracle, you can get your order your order cardio miracle for 15% off, use code TBNS at checkout. And by the way, you have nothing to lose because there's quite literally a 100% money back guarantee. Actually, that's not true, you do have something to lose, like those sleepless nights or that high blood pressure. So please go ahead and check out cardio miracle, and I guarantee your heart will thank you. And speaking of thanking you, I'm thanking you for joining us today on today's episode because we're digging into a very important topic. And frankly, it's a topic that far too many Americans are pretty illiterate when it comes to discussing that is the purposes of our US Constitution to help me do that today. Christopher Nesbitt, welcome to The Brian Nichols Show. How are you?
Christopher Nesbitt
I'm doing very well, Brian, thanks so much for having me. And you got me interested in cardio miracles. So I'm delighted to be here. And I am ready to answer anything you'd like to know. Oh, well, good
Brian Nichols
thing because I know over at US Citizens Academy, you're starting to answer some of the questions that I'm going to be asking today. And because you have a brand new book, A Complete Guide to complete understanding of the preamble of the US Constitution and instead guide you are outlining Yes, the six purposes of the US Constitution, which, coincidentally, coincidentally enough are all found in one paragraph, which I mean, I'm gonna say that probably leads to my first question, Christopher, which is why the focus on the preamble, but first, do us a favor, introduce yourself but also US Citizens Academy. Great.
Christopher Nesbitt
Okay, so my name is Christopher Nesmith, I'm the national spokesman of the Citizens Academy us. And our first publication is the guide that Brian just mentioned, it's the guide to complete understanding of the preamble of the United States Constitution. And any listener will be able to see a digital download of this book by going to citizens. And that's plural CI Tizen s academy.us. You can get a free digital download of the book or order a hardcopy or soft copy book. But what we're doing is getting a hundreds of millions of Americans to understand this one paragraph. And Brian, just an interesting fact. For years, I had understood the preamble to be one paragraph, but when you look at it, it's actually one sentence. So that's our goal, one sentence learned while by hundreds of millions of Americans by doing this guide, and this guide is actually not just a book you read, but it's a journey that you take. And I took the journey. I realized any well versed person could be a spokesman. So here I am. I'm delighted to be able to talk about it.
Brian Nichols
We're excited to talk about it. So let's maybe set the groundwork here for this guide. What was the genesis? Where did the idea come from? And frankly, what led to this combination now where you have a book and frankly, what are some of the results that you're seeing in this far? Right.
Christopher Nesbitt
Well, number one, the guide was born out of the fact that you've we found a lot of people having conversations, discussions or even lots of arguments. Colette ethically and in the country. And we saw that a lot of the argumentation stemmed from misunderstandings, the whole focus of everybody that I have as a team member, but come from many different walks of life, but our whole focus is on understanding. And we find that when understanding is achieved, harmony and alignment and results occur. So the guide actually takes a person through each of the words of the preamble as they were used by our Founding Fathers, using the 1826 version of Noah Webster's English, the English Dictionary of the American language. So that's the whole genesis of it, as we found that the words being fully understood, bring about alignment, unity and harmony, and that was of interest to us. So
Brian Nichols
you have this guide now, six purposes for the US Constitution? Yeah, let's let's walk through them. I'm not trying to dissuade people from purchasing this guide, because we're going to we're going to do here, no, I'm gonna give a throwback to Carl Becker, who was just on the show, talking about iceberg selling, we're giving you the tip of the iceberg, which means that there's gonna be a lot more below the surface that you need to go ahead and read the book for but Christopher, do us a favor, let's go through these six purposes, and give us the tip of the iceberg there in terms of what those purposes are, and maybe a little bit of the context behind them. Okay,
Christopher Nesbitt
well, Brian, you know, I would love to do that. But in actual fact, that isn't going to work right now. And I don't want to give you a loss on this. But to actually grasp the full purposes, the full six purposes, the person has to do the guide. It's an actual workbook activity action that is done. And that results in an understanding of what the purposes are. So I'd actually be doing all of your listeners a disservice by trying to get to the very end. Like if you had a terrific movie, but you didn't see everything leading up to the the final combination, you wouldn't understand. How did we even get here? What what does it mean?
Brian Nichols
Let's do this, then instead of going through those actual purposes, because it is an interactive guide, as you as you mentioned, let's go through the the practices that you've put in place in this guide, to better help people understand and better retain that information and be able to apply it so they have a better grasp, not just in terms of books, smarts, but now bringing this into the real life and the way they approach politics.
Christopher Nesbitt
Great. Okay, why could do a good example of that, because if you look at history, and when the Constitution was being formed, and debated, which was there was a lot of fierce debate about the Constitution that went on for four months where the delegates of the Constitutional Convention, were debating every single thing about it. What is interesting, though, is that the preamble when it was revised, and submitted as a draft by Gouverneur Morris, it was immediately agreed upon by every delegate. They all agreed on it, there was no disagreement and no debate and it just sailed through. And that cannot be said about any other part of the Constitution except this one line. So here's an example. When you study history, the word Liberty shows up again and again, not freedom. There's the Liberty Bell, there's the Sons of Liberty, there's the Statue of Liberty. So when we ask people, when we have workshops, or we're at a fair, we say Why did our founding fathers use the word liberty? Instead of freedom? And one from one we got a blank stare and people don't have an answer, they don't know what it is. So what I could do is give an example of how the guide works by clearing up this the subject of how is freedom different than liberty? Yeah,
Brian Nichols
let's let's go down that rabbit hole because so obviously this audience for the show, were much more in that pro Liberty pro freedom world and I think having the distinction between liberty and freedom is actually quite important. So let's let's go down this rabbit hole Christopher
Christopher Nesbitt
great and this will give a person a taste of the guide like if you go through a mall, and the person is there with the tray of pieces of chicken, each one on a toothpick
Brian Nichols
and my favorite person in the mall Yes,
Christopher Nesbitt
so you get the free sample, but it's not the whole dinner.
Brian Nichols
Oh, you want general? So yes, I want all general. So I will take all of your samples now. Yes, give us the taste, Christopher.
Christopher Nesbitt
Okay, so here, you can see an example of how each page is illustrated. And so we have a page on the definition of freedom which is absence of all restraint and all restrictions. The word freedom comes from frill, which meant acting of one's own will. And the sentence is the animals in the forest enjoyed their freedom. So, that's pretty, pretty simple. Yeah. Okay, so, and can you think of an example of where somebody might want an absence of all restraints and all restrictions? Ah,
Brian Nichols
well, so we in the libertarian world, we talk about this, we talk about libertarian ism, versus being libertine. Right? So I would say in situations where you just want to do whatever consequences be damned, including consequences that impact other people, whereas in something like libertarianism, for example, there are guardrails, right? There are social social rules that are put in place that are not codified necessarily, but are understood where you can accept people but you don't necessarily have to tolerate them. Or rather, I'm sorry, I had that flipped. You can tolerate someone, but you don't have to accept the negative behavior, if that makes sense. So I won't say that would be the difference I would see. Okay,
Christopher Nesbitt
terrific. Now, let me read you on the next very next page is the definition of liberty, which actually is on two pages. But this is where, in my opinion, for many people, the light bulbs go on, the epiphany happens the wow, I never knew that before. I never really differentiated liberty, from freedom. And they have learned something and they've got that new understanding. And to me, that's the magic. That's what we're trying to get with every single word, which is what this book takes the person through each word of the preamble. They're not, we're not explaining it or not interpreting it. We're not even really discussing it. We're simply clearing up the words and here is Liberty, right from the guide, page 63. The state of being free from oppressive restrictions from government on one's way of life, behavior, belief, or political views. Oppressive rules or regulations would be ones that are too severe, cruel, harsh, or that limit or restrict you too much. And on the next page, Liberty assumes restraints are essential control that you do agree with, that you consider reasonable that you do consent to the word Liberty came from the word love beer, which meant free. And the sentence is the people enjoyed their liberty after escaping the cruel king. America is often called the land of liberty. And you can see the picture here is a street crossing, where children are being escorted by the guard. And people have agreed to stop when when children are in the intersection. And that that's a restriction that they agree with. And it's not oppressive and would actually safeguard our children. So now there we have a new definition for some people, for liberty. But how did that go over? To you? Yeah,
Brian Nichols
I thought that I think it's good that one question that raises up though, is how, how there are then folks who will take that, and of course, try to push it to as the extreme as they can go. And the first knee jerk reaction, I think, too, is COVID During the COVID pandemic, against sanity that came thereafter where people were in the mentality of person with stop sign in front of children using that logic, or at least trying to use that logic perversely. Might I add, then saying, well, we need to force everyone to get vaccinated against COVID Regardless of preexisting conditions, regardless of you know, specific qualifiers, some of which are very important, like your age, for example, and using this, this public harm, and this act as some societal good as a justification in terms of protection, right? And going back to the example you gave, using that vaccine as the proverbial stop sign in front of the children in this case, which more or less represented all those older adults aged 65 and above, who Yes, could go get the COVID vaccine if it was sold, and did what it was sold to do, which is protect you from not just giving COVID but also getting COVID, which as we know, objectively true today is not the case. So I think that would be my one little caveat there. Christopher, where I'd be a little nervous, what what say you and I on the right path I out to lunch? Am I a mix of the two? You tell me?
Christopher Nesbitt
I don't think you're out to lunch at all. I think this is very, you're the first
Brian Nichols
to say that that's good to hear. Yes.
Christopher Nesbitt
very apropos and very onpoint. But we'd have to look at it is would you think that one or more people have similar understanding that you have would feel that their liberty was encroached upon by what you just described?
Brian Nichols
Um, well, yes. What would people feel that their liberty was encroached upon? I would say yes, if they were forced to get vaccinated, yeah, yeah.
Christopher Nesbitt
Okay. So there we have an example of on a person to person basis, if they understood the word liberty, they might go, wow, I never realized that's where my liberty was being threatened or suppressed or hurt. Now, the discussion of what is right or wrong is beyond the scope right now of the Citizens Academy. But in terms of using that this one word, and seeing how it applies when people felt upset about things that were being forced on them, when they do the examples, and one of the steps of the guide is to do examples, and sentences. So the person can truly make the word their own and not have a superficial understanding, but a full thorough, complete understanding. But in the course of those examples, they might go, wow, there was my liberty being endangered, or conversely, there was my freedom being respected.
Brian Nichols
So Christopher, as we go towards the tail end of the episode here, I would love to hear what your goal is, right? As we move forward with this guide now going out where people can go ahead and yes, purchase, learn those six purposes to the Constitution throughout the the workbook itself. But what's your goal? What do you want to see come from this, this guy, this workbook in terms of reception? And possibly Dare I say this is the goal of public impact moving forward when they look at the political process?
Christopher Nesbitt
Okay, great question. So my goal, and this is true with everybody else on my, on my team, is to have hundreds of millions of Americans simply do the guide. It's one paragraph, yes, but now you look at it, and inspect every bit of it. It's one sentence. So hundreds of millions of Americans truly learning one sentence of the Constitution. That under that gets them clear on the six purposes. What I find when people agree on and understand the purpose, they're harmonized, they're in alignment, they are unified. Also, they now want to learn the rest of the Constitution, people often start to read the Constitution and give up, it's too hard, it's overwhelming. But if they can get this one sentence, and really take the time to do the book and guide, right, then the magic happens. 100% results occur, even people that were formally in disagreement, or wanted to do away with the Constitution, found they fully agreed with it, and loved it and wanted to support it. And to me that would bring about results and get rid of a lot of the difficulties that we experienced today, simply because the focus is being on the purposes fully understood and grasped and so people can see what they can do to bring them about as our Founding Fathers intended. There
Brian Nichols
you have it. All right, folks. Well, you know what we do now? We go towards our final thoughts segment. And here are Christopher I'll kick things off, and then I'll turn it over to you. So, this, this is important, in 2023, I would say because so many folks are detached from the principles that were truly the foundation of our country and And it, it wasn't just the foundation of our country, it was the foundation of our culture. And when you look at the principles that were were echoed back in the 1700s. To today, it almost feels like two different worlds. And that can be exciting for some, but terrifying for others. And this kind of goes towards we've had this conversation in more recent months where we have the the differences between progressivism left isms and then you're more your libertarianism conservatism's. And you go towards, like, what what was the goal of libertarianism and conservatism, it's the preservation of something. And in this case, the preservation of freedom, liberty, right, we went through the differences today, but also the preservation of rights. Whereas you look at the left hand side of the aisle, and their goals tend to be more oriented on not so much a preservation, but more so a manipulation, how can we take what we have, and twist it to what we want? And, and I get nervous when I have I had this kind of like, sit down realization of left versus right, because the right, if we're gonna use a sports analogy, the right side of the aisle seems to be playing a lot of defense, right. But the left side of the aisle seems to be playing nothing but offense. And just the sports guy in me knows that if that's the, you know, the style of play that each team is going to be doing, you know, what's going to happen is that slowly, but surely, the offensive push is going to score some points because the other team is going to get tired. And oh, by the way, they're not going ahead and trying to score some offensive points. So I then go to well, what what can we refer back to as some type of mediating force? And it goes back to these principles, it goes back to the things that made the United States, the United States, there's a very profound quote in a movie of all places, Nicolas Cage's national treasure where he said, Yeah, okay, you know, right where I'm going before, the thing is the declaration of independence of the Constitution, I forget which one but they used to say, the United States are not now they say the United States is that one word change aren't is speaks volumes, because no longer was it a 13 individual states or many countries more or less, that were coalescing under, you know, more or less shared defense and protection and the goal. Now they were one nation, they joined together under one umbrella. And that speaks to I think, you know, that the principles that the 13 colonies were able to coalesce around, that's something that's missing today. And that's why I feel that this this guide is so important, because I look at the younger generations. I know they're not learning this stuff in school, and they need to learn it somewhere. So that's my final thoughts for today. Christopher, what do you have for us on your end? And also, where can folks go ahead and support the amazing organization Citizens Academy? Us? Okay,
Christopher Nesbitt
terrific. I'll answer all of those as best I can. And, number one, the website www dot citizens within us, has the guide has successes, has the you can see how we get 100% results when people actually do the guide as was intended. You mentioned the coalescing factor that was present when our country was formed. I've observed many times that when language is lost, the meanings of words get lost, and the purpose is start to disintegrate and fall apart. I think this is probably one of the most important messages I'd like to wind up with is that the misunderstood word, especially when people seek to redefine words and cancel out what our founding fathers meant and intended, makes trouble and that troubles are remedied when the restoration of the words are brought about. The book was inspired by a quote by L. Ron Hubbard, which is complete understanding depends upon freedom from misunderstood words. And I find that it's just something that is so true. Brian, do you agree with that, that you have to be free from misunderstood words to get have complete understanding?
Brian Nichols
I think maybe give me a lot more context behind the quote. I'm trying to better understand what what the the point is. Yes,
Christopher Nesbitt
it was discovered that many troubles with understanding stem from words that aren't clear people here we go.
Brian Nichols
Okay. Yeah, so Okay. Yeah. So, so, I actually had a conversation about this. I want to say A year and a half ago or so it was talking about words matter. And because we've seen, especially in in recent years, the definitions of basic understanding boy girl, like, like have have become convoluted and questioned. And and it's all done through manipulation of language and in other words, so I would say Yeah, absolutely that that definitely stands true.
Christopher Nesbitt
Great. So we're going to be restoring with every person that touched the guide, the purposes of the country, which, amazingly enough people see our their purposes, and they are uplifted, they are happier. They have many epiphanies and aha moments, simply by really getting what the Founding Fathers meant when they wrote the preamble, and it's the first sentence of the constitution. So we think hundreds of millions of Americans really getting that would cause that coal, coalescing to occur. More unity, more harmony, more understanding, and that's our goal. Christopher
Brian Nichols
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Spokesperson, Citizens Academy US
Christopher Nesbitt, National Spokesman Citizens Academy US
Christopher has over 35 years of experience as a professional speaker, working with numerous organizations. His disappointment in the lack of results with modern education prompted him to discover a new method of learning using effective and proven basics. He has delivered hundreds of talks, seminars, and workshops to rave results. He is currently a licensed insurance agent.
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