807: Systemic FAILURE - Why is this Ex-Cop Calling for Citizens to Battle Police Corruption!?

Brian Nichols  
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Bryon Davis  
I'm doing well. I appreciate you having me.

Brian Nichols  
Great to have you on the show. Brian, I'm looking forward to digging into all things. Law enforcement defund the police. All from a former Leo's perspective. But before we get there, Brian Byron, do us a favor, introduce yourself here to The Brian Nichols Show audience and also why is this a topic that you're so focused on and passionate about?

Bryon Davis  
So my name is Byron Davis, I'm a US Marine veteran served 2008 2012. And after that, I started my law enforcement career 2000 2013 Up until 2023, July of last year, and primarily one of the reasons why I left is essentially I mean, just just, it was corruption and the law enforcement realm. And, you know, I left to combat that to help kind of fix the system a little bit. I did graduate with my doctoral degree. And I was exploring various, various things that I could kind of, you know, which direction I wanted to go with that in terms of research, and it started out as PTSD. And here we are now as far as with, with corruption. So, so yeah, that's where we're at now, you know, it kind of kind of took a turn from from, you know, a different kind of opposite ends of the spectrum. But nonetheless, yeah, I loved it as a law enforcement officer, but at the same time, we have some problems and we need to fix them.

Brian Nichols  
But let's talk about that. Byron, that's why you're on the show today, right? So absolutely. Talk about corruption. libertarians who are in the audience, both big L. And small l hear corruption in law enforcement, and they say yeah, no, no doubt. We've been saying that for 4050 years. More recently, a lot of folks on the political right and or conservatives looking at the FBI, CIA NSA raising an eyebrow. Yeah, they're like, um, what are you doing with all those powers? urge to spy on your average American citizen over there like nothing unless you got something to hide. Yeah, yeah, it gets a little a little weird there, Byron. So I think at the very least now we have some folks who now I'm not going to point fingers. But we go back to the Patriot Act, a lot of this stuff was ushered in, under a lot of these Republican do good policies. I'm using the words do good, very loosely here. But now we're seeing those policies actually being turned against the very folks who brought them to the table. So Byron to those folks they're hearing. They're hearing the message, they're starting to open their ears. Let's walk through this. How did we get to a point where we're seeing such a weaponized police state, specifically, as you're articulating, when it comes to really bureaucratic, institutionalized corruption? It just seems like we're in this this big mess, this big web? And how do we get ourselves out of it? But I think first we got to understand how we got here, Byron, what say you.

Bryon Davis  
So there is a systemic issue in terms of accountability, which is what I think is the primary aspect of how we've gotten to where we're at, you know, you have individuals in government, both elected and appointed, who know that they're untouchable. And that's what we found. One of the primary reasons why I left law enforcement, of course, was to combat corruption. And the reason why is because as a law enforcement officer, I discovered a lot of criminal activity among judicial magistrates, judges, appointed officials, lawyers, and, you know, whatever you bring this stuff forward, you know, as law enforcement officer with a with a, I made a lot of risks, a lot of arrest, I was, I was in the realm of criminal interdiction, I work the interstates interstate 24, interstate 65. And folks don't behavior lot utilize my, my psychology degree to, you know, put a lot of criminals in prison, essentially. So whenever I was a law enforcement officer doing that my investigations and my conviction rate was also but as soon as you start digging into judges and magistrates and other law enforcement officers at that point, you become a nutcase. And they're as they're like, Well, this is crazy. He's just conspiracy theorists. No, not a conspiracy theorist at all. My investigation skills are exactly the same. The fact of the matter is, is it's people who don't want to be investigated, are the ones who start trying to turn things around on you. And especially its accountability, you have individuals on both left and right, you know, that, that they, they tend to skirt accountability as a result of that. So I think that's one thing that we need to focus on, I'm really big on term limits. And Tennessee tends to struggle with this. You know where I'm at. And there's a lot of states out there who do have term limits, but you need term limits on both on both elected and appointed positions, because otherwise, if you just put it on elected positions, all they're going to do is they're going to, you know, go around the system, find a loophole and appoint whoever they want in office, or they're going to change the laws from an elected position to an appointed position. And then they're going to put their appointed positions or whoever they want their cronies in there to fill those positions.

Brian Nichols  
So we go ahead, no, no,

Bryon Davis  
go ahead. I'm sorry.

Brian Nichols  
You're, we see, we see how we got here. Right. We're getting there. But do you think that this is more or less a result of the way that system has been built? Or do you see this as more nefarious actors who have been coming in and more recent years to really manipulate the system? Or is it something completely out? That's different that maybe I'm not seeing in the audience is the same? I

Bryon Davis  
think I think it is a I think it's basically what it is, it's that this system was hijacked over the course of time. In my personal opinion, you have a lot of people out there, we deal with people on the streets, that as law enforcement officers, we call them sovereign citizens. And they tend to believe that they don't recognize law enforcement as as an authority over them, they don't recognize that government has authority over them, they just won't be left alone. That's understandable. And these guys can be really dangerous sometimes, because they legitimately believe that they have the authority to kill a cop, and it'd be fine. Nonetheless, some of their points they make are very valid. But what I think it is, is whatever you hear Donald Trump talking about the deep state, for example, and I think this is very, very, very important for people to hear that they just don't quite, they can't make that connection between the federal or the national level down the local level. When Donald Trump's talking about the deep state anyone who believes it, whether you see it, see it as conspiracy or not. The fact of the matter is there's our system from the top at the, at the federal level, all the way down to the local level, has been hijacked and has been infiltrated by bad people, by individuals who, who want to enrich themselves and enrich their families. Not necessarily not everybody hates America. But they've been putting positions to where, you know, they're going to enrich their family, and they no longer have the best interest of the people in mind. And that's essentially what we're seeing at the local level. And that's what people don't people want to, they always want to go back to that federal level. But everyone watching this right here, at least understand that you need to tackle your local level, because the same people, the same money that is controlling people at the federal level, is the same money that's controlling people at the local level. And that's where our issue lies, because you have these people that are embedding ourselves in their system. And they're doing the exact same thing on the local level as they are at the federal level. So if you want to assist and taking down the deep state, if you if you believe that or even if you don't I personally I do I think I think we do have a deep state in the world. And in the United States is horrible that they do horrible things. And if you want to tackle that you have to get involved at your local level. And you have to start recognizing the fact that you have a lot of bad people in these positions that are taken advantage of their positions. And if you want if you want accountability, you have to get involved. So

Brian Nichols  
you say get involved. I've been preaching this here at The Brian Nichols Show, yes, at a local level, how not only is that important for what we're talking about here today, looking at the corruption in the the legal system, but also when you're looking at the manner in which your localities are governed. But Byron, you painted a picture. And I'm not trying to be Mr. doom and gloom over here, but it doesn't sound too rosy, right. You mentioned like the same folks from the federal level. I mean, they're the ones who are also funding these folks in the local level. So how does an average person who yes does get involved? How do they stand up against these these nefarious actors, right, who are in the background funding these these different also nefarious actors in the political landscape? When it does start to drift more into now we're talking about the legal rim? landscape, the law enforcement landscape, what are we average? You know, John Doe, Jane Doe citizen? What are we supposed to do, and we're facing the folks who are supposed to, at least that's what their titles are enforced the very laws. So

Bryon Davis  
in regard to that, you know, whenever you hear somebody say, you know, we need to go out here and we need to take our country back, take your city back, take your county back. You know, the best thing for this and, and people don't realize how powerful they can be if they just utilize this, this one tool that is afforded to them would be at the federal level for you. Go in and file these requests, get emails, get body cams, get get the emails of judges get communications between county attorneys, judges, district attorneys, law enforcement officers, police chief sheriffs, and or legislators, you know, county commission leaders, or county commissioners, aldermen, Borden, aldermen, mayor's whatever the case, go in here, this file for years, are at the state level with for Tennessee, it'd be Tennessee Public Records Act, and start getting this documentation. It's expensive for one person to go out here like I mean, we've gotten some estimates up to 20, something $1,000 own, you know, just communications in court. And that's another that's another battle we're fighting, we shouldn't have to pay that, you know, these guys are already getting paid to do a job, we shouldn't have to pay their salary to go out here and get public records requests. But it is expensive for one person it is it does kind of state for one person that have to go out here and pay all this money. But if you get a group of people, 20 3040 people just you create just a group, and everybody files, one FOIA requests, or one request per week, you know, you allocate specific individuals to go and file, you know, per day, or specific days. And you get all this information, you would be surprised what you uncover on these people. I mean, they they'll do everything they can to hide it by redacting and by saying, oh, that's attorney client privilege, whatever the case, but you would be surprised. I mean, we have caught people in theft. We have. We have some of the things we've done is led to resignations. There's a Tennessee Bureau of Investigation going on our TBI investigation going on right now, on a current magistrate and the county that we're in, we there's been another investigation that we sparked about four years ago, and to another magistrate altering government documents. And we've what we've done is led to several resignations. I mean, if you just go out here, and if you get just just follow each request and review them. Just sit down for 30 minutes, an hour, you know, per week and just go flip through these documents and read emails, some of the stuff you will find is insane. And that's one of the that's one of the best ways in my personal opinion to get involved. It is tedious, but if you get a group of people to do it, and then you come together on like a Friday, and you compile the information, what you'll what you'll find is insane.

Brian Nichols  
Brian Nichols here for Byron Davis. He's joining us in The Brian Nichols Show powered by an America. Byron, I have a question for you. And, and I, again, I don't want to be the Doom gloom guy today. But I guess just, this sounds great. Like, let's get these bad actors out of positions of power where they can they can violate their oath of office. But then I'm like, well, well, then what? How do we keep bad actors from then filling the roles of the bad actors that we just kicked out? Because at the end of the day, and we know this, because in the Liberty world, everything is economics, right? There are incentive structures that are in place that will incentivize this nefarious actor role to constantly pop up is so long as the what the power structure remains the same what what's what's a an average person to do to correct this to make sure we're not having this just everlasting evergreen cycle of nefarious actor, definite nefarious actor, all of our hard work be damned.

Bryon Davis  
Yeah, and that's where the citizens have to people have to people have to start, they have to be willing to run for office, too. I mean, there's, I live in a county of around 250,000 people, it's not uncommon for certain candidates to run on a post, it's because people just don't want to get involved. And if, if we expect to change anything, we have to get involved, like you said, like you push consistently on the shows, you have to get involved, and you can't allow these people to just run on a post. And in the event that they do continue to just place their cronies in these positions, put the pressure on, stay on, just us alone, you know, and what we do just me and a few other people. I mean, we've we've got the ears of a lot of people in this county. And we've instilled fear in a lot of these government officials saying like, are they gonna find out about me next, you know, and with us being, you know, former law enforcement and former magistrates and individuals who can investigate and have the ability to dig into things and have the resources. You know, it does spark fear in some of these guys. And that's what these individuals can do who want to get involved, you've got to run for office, you've got to get involved in and I know a lot of people, they don't really like the political thing. They don't like going to political events, but I'm not a big fan of the GOP right now. But I still go to their events. You know, I still go in there, I still meet people. People see me, they know who I am. Whenever they see me in there, they either come talk to me, or they avoid me like the plague. And that's exactly the way it should be. I'm respectful. I'm not disrespectful people. I'm kind of nice, I'll do anything for anybody if they need help, you know, to the point, which I can but be seen, get involved at these events and start getting involved in these elections is the biggest thing that we have to do. And in the event that you don't get involved, keep putting pressure on, you know, make their life miserable, if they're going to do if they're accountable to us, whenever I was a law enforcement officer as a sheriff's deputy, I was accountable to you, you know, and I understood that I took the Constitution, the Constitution not took very, very seriously. But I knew that I was accountable to the people. And when somebody says, I pay your salary, I didn't argue with them. It's the truth. And that's what these people need to understand. Because they tend to forget that they get these positions. They get comfortable, they get confident, and they tend to forget that they work for you. And

Brian Nichols  
Byron, what's your perspective on the back the blue movement?

Bryon Davis  
So I am a I'm a avid supporter of law enforcement, and always, always will be. I do understand that you have individuals out there who they make it hard. They make it hard on us because they do stupid stuff, quite often. And that comes down to several different aspects, one being training and two being, you know, the subpar standards that that we have implemented throughout the United States to become a law enforcement officer. On the other hand, I understand also that people want us less involved in their lives. So there are certain aspects that I disagree with and being a law enforcement officer in asset forfeiture is one of them. I think it should go away. Isn't it is a good tool for law enforcement to use to kind of put a burden on the

Brian Nichols  
way Byron for the folks who aren't familiar. Could you just maybe a little little bit more elaborate on asset forfeiture and why it's such an issue? Yeah, sure. So

Bryon Davis  
asset forfeiture is the ability for me as a law enforcement officer if I stop you, and and you have narcotics in the vehicle, and then along with those narcotics, let's say you have $100,000 cash. I have the ability to seize that money and the narcotics along with your vehicle due to asset forfeiture laws. The problem with that is that you have not there's not a lot of law enforcement officers out there who abuse this, but it's it doesn't take a whole lot to abuse it for it to hurt everybody because if you take if you take $10,000 off somebody on On the road, and that's not drug money, and you just took it because they have a lot of money on him. It's a lot of money to a law enforcement officer that hurts people. And that happens quite often, to where you have to make that nexus. Whenever I worked narcotics, I was a canine handler, we did not take your money unless we knew that it was drug money. We knew for a fact, meaning we had text messages, we had already been conducted an investigation, we had you, we bought drugs off of you, whatever the case, we knew that the money that you had on you or the vehicle that you had was proceeds from drug sales or human trafficking, whatever the case. But there's a lot of law enforcement officers out there, there's a lot of units out there that don't do that. You also have units out there the entire unit, there's a book I have to figure out, I'll have to I can't remember what it's called. But it's a book that was written by a guy from Metro Nashville, New York, he used to work on Metro Nashville's narcotics unit. And I can't remember exactly what happened with a narcotics unit up there. But essentially, some of those guys were still in money on search warrants. And there's been entire units disbanded throughout the United States, because you've got cops going in on search warrants stealing money. Because I mean, one of the last, last people that's going to tail on a cop out of fear of getting convicted, or, you know, essentially put themselves in a position to be convicted, it's criminals who are selling drugs, right. But it's the abuse of the it's the abuse of the laws of these individuals who take money, illegally, that make it hard on everyone else. And as a result, and I've told I've told people this, I think they should go away, I think asset forfeiture laws, I think there should be laws passed that prevents law enforcement from taking anything and is it going to, is it going to help the cartels primarily your larger criminal organizations? Absolutely. I think that's going to help them, you know, fund their operations. But you have a lot of good Americans, a lot of law abiding Americans who are hurt as a result of idiot cops. And that's the reason why it has to happen.

Brian Nichols  
incentive structures are real can't escape the economics in real life, just one of those dirty realities. And unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, we have just acknowledged it is the elephant in the room, because in to my final thoughts here, Byron, you know, this, this is, at the end of the day, a conversation we need to have, and it does come back to, well, incentive structures matter, power, power, vacuums matter. And if we don't pay attention, and this goes back to the average citizen, right, we were talking about this earlier, if you're not going to get involved locally, right? You can't you can't act surprise, because we see that the structure as it is built, now. It's built to incentivize these negative behaviors. And until we start to take some accountability, and actually do our job, right, we are to what you outlined earlier, Byron, we're the ones that you're accountable to. And if we're not going to hold ourselves to the role we're supposed to play, which is holding the law enforcement accountable, and we're not doing our job. And when you see those bad actors who they're incentivized to be bad actors, but also, they're emboldened because they're not being held accountable. So that that just is a perfect storm for more of this, to bring more of this to fester and more of this, unfortunately, to impact your average everyday citizen. And going back to what you said earlier, Byron, this isn't just impacting the cartels. This isn't just impacting the bad guys, this is impacting your average person who just gets pulled over. And they happen to have a lot of cash on hand. And then just you know, that maybe raises a little bit of a red flag very loosely, using the word red flag, there are enough that a police officer could say, You know what, I have enough reasonable suspicion here to maybe go ahead. And yes, and act asset forfeiture. So this is a conversation we need to keep having both us in the political world, but challenging you right now. Audience listener, please. If you're listening to this, and you're you're like, This isn't right, well get involved in your community start trying to make a difference today, where it actually matters most and that is in your neighborhoods. Right. So that's my final thought for us today. Byron, what do you have for us on your end? And of course, where can folks go ahead and support all the great work you're doing?

Bryon Davis  
So we have a, we have a tic toc. It's called Shadow oath. That's the organization that we started. Whenever we both retired, me and my partner, we both retired from the criminal justice system. We're on that you can, it's the shadows like, you know, Shadow oath, like you swore an oath to accomplish constitution. And final thoughts in terms of what kind of just what I spoke about in terms of the cartels. I want people to understand that. Once again, I live just south of Nashville. Nashville, is one of the hubs of the United States for cartel activity. And I mean, you've got us 6540 24 Us 31, all of your major highways and interstates cross Nashville, and it connects Florida all the way up to Chicago. And it connects North Carolina all the way up to California. So it's a hub for it. And this is what I want people to understand. And I'm not trying to scare anyone whenever I say this, but people just need to understand the significance of this problem and not getting involved at a local level. And what that causes, make no mistake, if you have if you live in a larger city or county jurisdiction, and you have interstates and highways close to you, more than likely, more than likely you have law enforcement officers, or politicians, mayors, commissioners, aldermen, whatever it might be, you have people on the payroll of cartel organizations make no mistake, just right here in Tennessee, we've uncovered we've uncovered dozens, dozens of people in just Middle Tennessee alone. And then we've got some out in West Tennessee, that that we suspect are all cartel payrolls. So if you're in these in these jurisdictions that have an interstate or highway, large interstate or highway that runs through your your jurisdiction, you've probably got people with you've probably got a cartel stronghold there, you've got people on the payroll, and for some for some areas, especially whenever you get out west, I mean, that stronghold gets bigger, these guys don't operate freely without having people on the payroll. So if you want to tackle this stuff, you have to get involved, you have to start conducting your own investigations, digging into these things, looking into people's financials, and, and start holding these people accountable.

Brian Nichols  
Byron, Dave Davis, it's been an absolute pleasure. And I think it there's a lot that we've unpacked here today that, frankly, for a lot of folks out there, this is probably some of the first time they're really considering it seriously, for the first time early in their lives, right? Because we've been taught, and this is by and large that when you just look at the law enforcement that they're the good guys, right? And and, man, I don't wanna say that that's not true. But there are definitely folks out there who they take advantage of the fact that they they have that badge, right, and we need to pay attention to that. And we have to do our jobs here as citizens to hold those folks who are supposed to maintain our laws and hold people to account hold them to account. So that's uh, I think we're gonna have to leave today's episode. Byron has been an absolutely fantastic conversation with that being said, where can folks go ahead support you if they want to continue the conversation, support your work, social media links, anything like that? I missed that earlier.

Bryon Davis  
No, it's just, we do have a primarily we operate on tick tock is where I do have a tick tock at Dr. Baron Davis. And then at shadow of our shadow oath is primarily where most of our investigative stuff is put out there. And we get involved in both national politics, state politics, local politics, but we put a lot of what we figured what we have found at the local level in our investigations on our shadow with as well we're conducting a really big investigation right now. So we hadn't put anything out there. In terms of the local investigations here recently. But we did just have a video. I think it just busted 500,000 views on Tucker Carlson being in Russia. So people like that again, but it's shadows on Tiktok. All

Brian Nichols  
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