820: Censorship, Concentration Camps, & Surveillance - The Dark Side of FDR & the New Deal

Brian Nichols  0:10  
FDR, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, one of America's most heralded presidents, and yet, did you know that FDR would censor his critics put American minorities into internment camps? Plus he laid the groundwork for our surveillance state that we're facing today? Yeah, we got to talk about that. Instead of focusing on winning arguments, we're teaching the basic fundamentals of sales and marketing and how we can use them to win in the world of politics, teaching you how to meet people where they're at on the issues they care about. Welcome to The Brian Nichols Show. Well, hey there, folks, Brian Nichols here on The Brian Nichols Show. And thank you for joining us on of course, another fun filled episode. I am as always your humble abode going home from our cardio miracles here in a lovely Eastern Indiana The Brian Nichols Show is powered by amp America really excited to be part of the amp America team looking for some political news opinion pieces, plus some awesome new content in the world of culture that's changing people's hearts and minds head to amp america.com Also, we have a brand new mini series the extremist files just today at Twitter spaces with a executive producer Matt Edwards, brand new cartoon crafted by Freedom tunes Seamus Coghlan. So go ahead check out that ain't America exclusive? The extremist files over at amp america.com and also The Brian Nichols Show yours truly, how about that is personally powered by cardio miracle our studio sponsor folks the car your miracle difference is real. 1,000% back this past week, I went to the doctor's for my six month checkup and she said, Brian, your blood pressure is the best it's been in years, what are you doing? And I smiled and I said, Well, I found a cardio miracle. And I gotta tell you, I'm seeing the differences for myself. Now, she didn't know what a cardio miracle was. But if you're a longtime listener here at The Brian Nichols Show, you know what cardio miracle it is, it is the best heart health supplement in the world, lower blood pressure, better sleep, better ingredients, Papa John's not just getting better. Everything across the board. When it comes to an improved heart. And I'm seeing the differences for myself, I want you to experience the differences for yourself as well. So head to the show notes if you go joining us here on the YouTubes. Or if you're listening to the podcast version, in your show notes, you'll see a link for cardio miracle click the link, it'll bring you right over to our friend's cardio miracle.com use code TBN s, you're gonna get 15% off your order. And folks, by the way, there's literally nothing to lose, because there's 100% money back guarantee. So don't take my word for it. Go ahead experience the cardio miracle difference for yourself by hack join the 10s of 1000s of other folks out there who have already seen the cardio miracle difference the folks who have lowered their blood pressure like yours truly the folks who are getting a better pump at the gym like yours truly. And also the folks who are getting a much more restful sound full sleep. Yes, yours truly included in that as well. So one more time link in the show notes cardio miracle. Start your heart health journey today. Your heart will thank you All right, folks, we paid the bills. And now we're gonna go ahead, go ahead and talk about paying the bills of yesteryear. Yes, we go back to one of America's most heralded presidents, and that is one, Franklin D. Roosevelt. We've all heard the you know, the history classes singing his praises, my goodness, our four term president who did so much to save the country to help get us out of the the what is it great depression? Yeah, we saw all of this happen back in the 1930s and 40s. And yet, maybe we should look at FDR. And I say maybe if you are on the right side of the aisle most definitely already have. But for folks out there who haven't really looked at FDR in any real seriousness, they're taking what they've heard in the history classes as as gospel as truth will maybe get you to read a brand new book that just came out the new deals war on the Bill of Rights. The Untold Story of FDR is concentration camps, camps, censorship and mass surveillance to discuss that brand new book and more joining us here on The Brian Nichols Show. David Beto, welcome to the program how you doing?

David Beito  4:20  
Thank you for inviting me doing great,

Brian Nichols  4:22  
great to have you on and I'm really excited to dig into this book David because I heard it and I know all the the folks who have gone through the government indoctrination centers that we look at and call K through 12 schools they've probably experienced that as well FDR we are literally taught his his amazing feats of accomplishments He's listed in the top five presidents for all these kids as they're going through grade school really being force fed this narrative FDR one of the best presidents out there David but to the contrary your books gonna go ahead and outline some not just issues with FDR as you know, his his presidency but also some of the Aren't areas that maybe have been glossed over? Over the past? What, 8090 years. But before we go ahead and dig into that, David, do us a favor, introduce yourself here to The Brian Nichols Show audience and also why the focus on politics from yesteryear, specifically New Deal and the FDR administration. Well,

David Beito  5:17  
I'm a professor emeritus of History at the University of Alabama and that, that's my thing, history. So that's, so when I got into this, I've written a number of books, that touch on the 1930s, including a book about taxpayers who bolster in the 1930s, which is another subject not many people know about the role of private organizations, mutual aid organizations in providing social welfare before the welfare state came along. So I started touched on this period. And I've seen the pro FDR comments, right, he's, he's usually rated by my fellow historians as number two, sometimes number one, in the greatest category. And if you look closely, you'll find a lot of problems with that rating. You look at economic issues, which was not my concern in this book, we're still in a Great Depression 10 years after it started, not much of a success. So I think, as I looked more into it, I saw that he was overrated in a lot of ways. And then I kept coming across examples of FDR is attitude, which was anything to achieve the goal, attitude, any means necessary. And there was a kind of jaded and cynical and ruthless quality about him. That as I looked more closely, and it certainly most people are aware of Japanese internment, although FDR called them concentration camps. That was his term. So I don't think I'm being unfair. And using his term, I started to look at other things like censorship of the press, censorship of radio, his use of things that are familiar today, if you read the Twitter files, of using government to go behind the scenes to attack what he in fact called fake news, to force people off the air by the late 1930s. All the radio commentaries on networks, were pro FDR, or at least we're not anti New Deal. So I was lightly be to ask more questions. But that gives you a rough introduction. Well,

Brian Nichols  7:25  
it's important we're having this conversation, David, right. Because you go back to what I articulated my intro, and that is, well, it seems like everybody who goes through grade school is given this, this force fed narrative that FDR is one of the best presidents we've ever had. And you go out and you talk to your your average person, I don't think they look at FDR, with the disdain that, frankly, an average person in 2024 should be objectively able to do because FDR met, whether it's our standards today, or the standards in the 1930s, and 40s. It just wasn't a good dude, he was doing a lot of bad things. He was putting American citizens behind bars just for the color of their skin or their ethnicity. He went through really, I mean, yes, he laid the front of the foundation for a lot of the surveillance state. Heck, he took what Woodrow Wilson 30 years earlier really helped put in place as well. And he just brought it to an 11. We saw this back in our last episode, we recorded with Joe Golarion, talking about Woodward Wilson, and how he really was helping us a lot of this this misinformation narrative, you know, trying to go after folks who disagreed with him and lay the groundwork as to well, this is why it's okay. And FDR took that and he put the pedal to the metal. So I say all that David, you know, without something like your book here, and frankly, without a real and let's call it a realistic look at history. A lot of the nefarious actions of an FDR administration would be completely forgotten. I mean, looking back to you, you mentioned that the censorship, the surveillance, the the internment, I mean, trying to pack the courts trying to manipulate the press, you go down through the rabbit hole of all these really not so great things that FDR did. I think a lot of folks out there, they're completely clueless. So my question to that David is, how do we reach the average person besides, you know, having a book like you've written here today that we're talking about, but what's the best way you found to Yes, enter into conversations from yesteryear in 2024 to help paint a picture of Hey, mister missus average citizens, maybe the history you've been taught, isn't the history that actually happened, and here's why it's important for today. Well,

David Beito  9:39  
before I go on to why it's important for today, and it certainly is, most people will are aware of the Japanese term, right? And they'll say that was bad. And they maybe say that that was a mistake for FDR to do that. But my book shows the full extent of his involvement. The FDR is often portrayed in history books is destroyed. acted, is he's got so much on his mind. He just sort of allows this to happen. And there was so much hysteria, he kind of had to do it. None of that is true. None of that is true. FDR was very much hands on when it came to that issue, and it is reflective of his attitudes towards other civil liberties issues, as well. Now, what relevance does this have for today, it is incredible relevance in the sense that we're seeing the same things happening. Like I mentioned before, with the Twitter files, we see parallels to that. We see the attempts to discredit people as purveyors of fake news. Again, that happened. We see surveillance, certainly FDR is a Senate committee, created by or created at the behest of FDR, led by an FDR ally, examined 3 million at least 3 million private telegrams without a subpoena. So that's that surveillance state big time. And I think it has lessons for today. We need to get left and right together to defend civil liberties. And what we find is often the left is not interested in helping right wingers if their civil liberties are being violated and and vice versa. We need to build coalitions and if you look at the 30s you actually see coalition's one of the leading civil libertarians of the time is guy named Norman Thomas, a socialist, Norman Thomas is kind of the AOC of his time in terms of prominence, but he's out there defending civil liberties of conservatives and libertarians very aggressively. And you see some some people on the right like the publisher, the Chicago Tribune, a prominent conservative helps to create a lot of free speech precedents and court cases he brings involving the left so we need more of that we have less of that today than then it's healthy because then civil liberties for everybody are more vulnerable when we don't have these coalition's

Brian Nichols  12:06  
Hey David, one thing that it just it, it creeps up here in the back of my mind, because you're talking about this we've talked about FDR is legacy in the past year on the show, and maybe not to the extent we are today. But this is a conversation we're having Why are other historians out there having this conversation Why Why isn't FDR is actual legacy being taught as it should be in these these government indoctrination camps that we call government schools.

David Beito  12:38  
It is really quite amazing is too much how much of a sacred cow he is? Well, I like I said, though, the whole Japanese internment thing I would say if you want to start enlightening people, you start with that. And then you also point out how that is connected to other policies, how it reflects a general attitude. FDR zone Attorney General was against Japanese internment. But he also said that Roosevelt, the President was a person that said, Look, if he had to achieve a goal, he didn't worry about the Constitution, the Bill of Rights due process, the important thing was the goal, that it probably is one way to get it at people. And another way, again, as I said, is to point out these parallels and what we're seeing today, but pulling out the inspiring part to say, Look, your left wing ancestors, assuming they're on the left, they were civil libertarians, many of them, some of them weren't, but many of them were, and the that tradition needs to be brought back. So this is a book I would hope people on the left and the right can read. I want more people on the left to read it. I want them to read it saying I'm going to tear this guy down. I'm going to discredit him. He's a hack. And I think they'll look at it. And the book has received praise from historians on the left like Ellen schreker, an author a book called many are the crimes very much pro Roosevelt on other issues, was a book about the Red Scare. And she I sent her the book on a lark and she wrote back a very nice blurb that is shown up at Amazon, among other blurbs that I have. But I'd like more people on the left to read it.

Brian Nichols  14:19  
David, let me articulate my concern. This isn't toward you. This is just towards the world that we're in. Yeah, here's what happens. something bad happens politically speaking policy wise speaking in present day. People on let's just use example for today. You know, let's say Joe Biden does something nefarious people on the right rightfully point in screen saying look at what's happening right now, this is a violation of norms of constitutional rights. It's violating the rights of the average citizen. The folks in the left will say, shut up. You're You're overreacting. This is nothing. He's doing what he asked to do. Fast forward 40 years historian's might look back and say okay, maybe maybe he overstepped a little bit and then fast forward 40 more years and they'll say, okay, yeah. So Joe Biden definitely overstepped here. But you know, during the context of what was happening, he had to do what he had to do. Right. So we see this is going to happen almost inevitably here with what we're experiencing today. And you look at history, that seems to be the exact course that has followed through as well. So why is it that we always seem to have history get rewritten 40 5060 years after the actual action that takes place? I mean, I'm, I'm sure just like everybody else out there waiting for something to get released about JFK? Because, you know, it seems like it's going to be time where they're going to say, okay, yes, the CIA did X, Y, and Z. Like, you're just kind of waiting for that. Right. So what is it? Why do we have this 60 year lag time between actual historical events that are taking place? And then the, I guess, the truth or a version of the truth being told, decades later?

David Beito  16:04  
Well, there's a lot of reasons for that, I suppose. One is there's the hysteria of the of the moment, right? If we were to have had this conversation, gee, what it's been four years ago, you know, talking about a lot of the things that that happened as a result of the lockdowns, for example, and COVID, and so forth, we'd be branded marginal conspiracy theories, theorists. So a lot of us have hysteria. The moment you saw that after 911, and Bush took that opportunity to get us in the war with Iraq to expand it beyond bin Laden and go into Iraq. But the hysteria the moment meant that you were kind of given a bit of a of a blank check. To some extent, we see that in the 30s. And World War Two, although it is worth noting that there was a lot of criticism of FDR at the time, FDR is surveillance or the New Deal. Surveillance of private telegrams under Senator Black is Ally, was very controversial was headline news. Other things were not controversial. But but there were some things and if you look back at the newspaper headlines in the period, you're often surprised by Oh, this FDR guy, everybody loves him. He's getting a lot of pushback, much more than you might expect from people at that time. And I think studying that push back is very instructive.

Brian Nichols  17:31  
So a lot of folks look at FDR. And I think they give him credit, David, specifically for the way and I'm gonna put this in the most gigantic air quotes I can just for the audio listener, for saving America and getting us out of the Great Depression. Yeah,

David Beito  17:47  
save that is one of my favorite hobby horses.

Brian Nichols  17:51  
Take that one down, please.

David Beito  17:53  
Oh, I'll take that down. You got FDR said that, by the way. Gee, how convenient, right? I saved the system. Why are these businessmen hate me so much? Why do people hate me? I'm saving the system. First of all, okay, for that argument to be true, you have to find a substantial threat from either the left or the right in the United States. Well, where's the threat from the left the Communist Party in 1932, when FDR ran a conventional campaign, in fact, he attacked Hoover at times as a spendthrift got, I don't know, 1% of the vote Socialist Party maybe got three or 4%. So the left never did very well. 1936 as well. So I don't see the threat for a revolution against capitalism. Is there a fascist threat? Well, there's no fascist third party in the United States. You see these big picture pictures of the boons meeting at Madison Square Garden musters about every single member of that organization, right. These are marginal groups, these aren't groups that are going to be taking over the country. So that whole theory falls apart. Because for me, let's look at the let's look at the threats. The there aren't there to an extent that there is a threat of revolution in the United States. And for that argument to be true, you have to show that I don't see it. I think FDR could have gone in a very different direction in 1933. And, you know, and and done it, I don't think anyone forced, you know that the New Deal was inevitable or had to happen. Or if it didn't happen, these bad things would happen. We've had depressions before this was the worst. And partly it was the worst because of FDR and Hoover's policies, which which really delayed recovery needlessly. But we've been through things like that before, and there's no sign of a revolution why people are mad. They're angry. There's a lot of populism, you could say, but I The revolution to overthrow the system. I don't see evidence that that's in the cards. So that's his favorite argument. And people buy that argument without question. But I don't think it holds up.

Brian Nichols  20:13  
How about this one? They'll say even in an argument, I'll just ask the question, and we'll ask it as black and white like Ken. David, was FDR a racist?

David Beito  20:26  
Yes, very much. So. And if you look at his private comments, you can see them about, about African Americans, Japanese Americans, you see, you see this racism on the Japanese Americans issue? It's interesting. And again, you could say, all right, a lot of other people at the time thought that way. And that's true. But in the 1920s, FDR was an op ed columnist, he wrote for a paper called the Macon Daily Telegraph. And in that paper, he wrote a series of articles where he said, regarding Japanese Americans, we got to keep them out. Right? California is right to deny Japanese immigrants property rights. We should ban interracial marriage because commingling of Japanese and Caucasian blood will produce worse results, things like that. So this racism, but if you look at the policy, a lot of it is here is a political animal. And he doesn't do things for African Americans because he feels it's not necessary in terms of votes. So for example, there had been an anti lynching bill in Congress. It had been supported by President Harding and President Coolidge. FDR does not support it, and it fails. So he doesn't risk it. And historians excuse that, by the way, say, well, he had to do that, because he loves his new deal. I don't buy that. Again, I don't think that's true. He's known vice president, who's a conservative Texan even thinks that lynching has gone too far. And something needs to be done. So he doesn't do that. And there's a lot of examples in the book that people don't know about, of FDR and African Americans, especially African American Republicans. And that people might find quite eye opening. Huh,

Brian Nichols  22:17  
well, and how about this, David, is we're going towards the tail end of the conversation here. Let's use this as an opportunity to learn right, and I would love to hear your your thoughts here for this. What can what can historians of today, learn from their telling of history, based on what you've seen in the past, and the way that history has been? rewritten? It gets us the best way to frame it, or at the very least, written through a very obvious political narrative and lens. So to the historians of today, but also the historians for tomorrow, what would be the advice to David to effectively and articulately not just outlining what actually happened, but in terms of providing that context and nuance for the future generations to be able to effectively look back at today, and have a true understanding of what actually happened and the context behind the why.

David Beito  23:21  
Okay, well, you use the term obvious, and I think I'll use that as an obvious response. What goes around comes around. That's what historians can learn from this. And a lot of them have learned it, but they haven't fully learned it. Enough of them, I think. And that is, if you have sedition trials, if you violate which we did in the 1930s. Very similar today, you sweep people up. And those trials were eventually denounced you had them during the World War Two, if you have mass surveillance, which again, was denounced during the period, if you have all of this. Yeah, there, it's being used against people that you politically might not think are good people, right, because most historians are on the left, but it's going to be used against you eventually. So realize that realize that's the price, we see that during the 19. The Red Scare the 1950s. A lot of things FDR did to the political right to the 1940s created precedents for him to do the same thing to the political left after that. So sedition trials, whichever ones applauding a lot of people are applauding were used for horrible purposes, against people on the left, there are blank checks, domestic terrorism laws now being used against the left in Georgia, Georgia, environmentalists are blank checks. If you're going to prosecute somebody prosecuted for them something familiar, right, something traditional in the Criminal Code, trespass or assault. That kind of thing. Don't go after them. It feels good maybe at the moment. But on some broad open ended thing like sedition, and that that's going to bite you. That's going to get you later if you do that. So that's the lesson I'd like people to try to take in, and some have, but a lot, unfortunately have

Brian Nichols  25:13  
not hired you and only help people who want to learn, you can't force other folks to, to learn to have to do it on their own path. So, David, there's a lot to unpack here. And unfortunately, we just hit the tip of the iceberg. And we're already hard pressed for time, which means that folks need to make sure they have a call to action here for today's episode that is go check out the new book that new deals war on the Bill of Rights, the untold story of FDR is concentration camps, censorship and mass surveillance, David, where can folks go ahead and grab their version of your book today, if they want to go ahead and learn and read some more?

David Beito  25:48  
Of course, they can get it from Amazon just look it up. But I'd recommend they go to the independent Institute. So you go to independent.org. And you'll you'll find it they're highlighted. So help them out. But you can you can get it both places. Love

Brian Nichols  26:02  
it. Awesome. And how about this? David, as we go towards our final thoughts today, I'll kick things off, and I'll turn things over to you. You know, this year we look at, we look at the past four years, and let's start here, the past four years of COVID Insanity have have been just that insanity. And yet, we look to the folks who are telling the story of what happened. And they're acting like the government's response was was just and it made sense. And the folks who were saying no, this is insane, are kind of looking at this saying, well, Whoa, you're you're coming around to some of the points that we've been making. But you're painting a picture as though it wasn't that bad. And actually the government's response was good. And I think that's a good example of why it's important for us to have books like what you have your David telling the truth, and calling out the false narratives for what they are. Because when you create the the false narratives, those false narratives become false truths when those false truths become false truth and they become false facts, and false facts will damage and destroy generations of actually understanding what happened. So fast forward 100 years from today, when I hope the next pandemic doesn't happen. But if it does happen, the folks from 100 years from now will will look back and say, Well, this is what they didn't work that done, right, versus the reality of the folks on the ground who are saying, Whoa, whoa, this is insane, hold tight, maybe we shouldn't label people essential versus non essential. Maybe we shouldn't be forcing vaccination on folks in order to go work at certain places. Maybe we shouldn't be requiring people to have a vaccine passport to go to a restaurant. It's those voices who were standing up and saying no, that I think actually helped bring an end to some of the insanity. Will those voices be remembered? Will those voices be the not only remembered but talked about in the history? That's where we come in to make sure that the history is being told the real history? That's my final thoughts for today. David, what do you have for us on your end? And of course, where can folks go ahead and continue the conversation with you after we wrap up today?

David Beito  28:11  
Well, you on the whole COVID thing, I would say, yeah, they can look at those people, but they can also look at international comparisons. Sweden didn't do any of this nonsense. Were my own, you know, the country where my ancestors from Norway did very little of it. They had no masks, they never did masks. Right. So there were people at the time, there were countries at the time that pursued different policies, you see that during the Great Depression candidate didn't have a single bank failure, because basically, they didn't put restrictions on brand seat branching of private banks. So I think international comparisons are, are a good way to look at it. Certainly, if you want to talk with me more, I'm on Twitter. I'm on Facebook. And if anyone wants to send me emails, and if anyone has any questions, I'll be glad to to feel them, or reaction, or criticisms of the book. And I again, I would hope people that don't agree with me that think FDR is a great guy would look at the book and go look at it. Like, I'm going to show this guy up. I want people like that. So as far as a conversation, that's kind of conversation I'd like and I'm not having enough of unfortunately.

Brian Nichols  29:29  
Yeah, a lot of people I don't I don't think they want to have conversations nowadays. They want to just make a statement and let it be their statement. They're gonna make their state their truth. And you you're not believing my truth. You're not letting me speak my truth. You don't?

David Beito  29:46  
Well, let me let me also point out that we see friendships across the political spectrum are much more common during this period. I think HL Mencken was kind of a libertarian, but he had friends everywhere. And that's unfortunate too. We don't have Have more of that.

Brian Nichols  30:00  
It's tough. It's tough. I mean, as we wrap up today, David, I know I've invited dozens, dozens, hundreds of folks. But you know, we've been doing this show now since 2018. And we've had a lot of folks who they've had invites that are more on the left to come on the show. And in my experience, folks in the left don't want to have this dialogue, they don't want to have a discourse. You know, during COVID, I had some very close friends who were more on the left, and I wanted to have a conversation with them about where we disagreed, and it wasn't even a matter of having a conversation, it was a matter of, Oh, you want people to die. I'm gonna have a conversation with you. You want to kill people like that was the mentality, I'm just, it's hard to have a dialogue with folks who they jumped to the worst case framing of their their competition or the opponent in this case for

David Beito  30:50  
you, and I've had some respond like that. They'll like that. Well, I'm not I don't want to read this right wing practice. It's not I'm a historian. I've got primary sources. I backed them up here. I tried to be fair, I don't want to even look at that. And that's just a shame. And I'm sorry to hear what your experience is because it's dispiriting. Well,

Brian Nichols  31:10  
and what's unfortunate, David, is that I think my experience is not it's not unusual for today's modern discourse. And and I think, you know, as we wrap up, we'll we'll end with this is that my experience, you know, maybe the folks who were calling out FDR back in the 30s and 40s, right, their experience of the the immediate societal pushback, and yes, with that, maybe losing some of those those friendships, or the very least those friendships changing, and the conversations, they're in changing, but I think it's important for us to continue to speak, what is the truth, not just our truth, but actually, to your point, you know, facts, figures, things that can be verifiably backed up, that's important for us to continue to do, even when it's not popular, when it will lead to folks pushing back and maybe some friendships becoming a little bit different compared to what they used to be because it's us doing this now that gives permission to the historians 40 years from now, to actually go back and say, hold up know that what you're saying, you know, today Mr. Competitive historian isn't true. I'm actually I'm looking and reading this book from David Beto, and he's making a very different argument. He's got the facts and the stats to back it up. That's what we have to be able to do today. So I say all that please. Folks, if you're listening to today's episode, and you feel that you're you're bashing your head against the wall that the folks out there who you're trying to convince you're trying to persuade, aren't listening, don't don't stress just keep doing what you're doing. Because even though you're not going to see the the instant return on your efforts today, right, there is no instant gratification. You are in fact planting the seed for a tree that you might not be able to enjoy the shade of tomorrow. So know that your efforts are not being wasted. They're not going unnoticed. As a matter of fact, you're actually making a lot easier for folks for tomorrow. That's what I have for us today, folks, thank you for joining us. I know you guys enjoy today's episode digging into the untold or at the very least the not popular story of FDR please go ahead do me a favor give today's episode a share wherever it is you do that please tag Yours truly, Facebook, Twitter all the social medias at be Nichols liberty. And with that being said, please go ahead and give David some love. Go ahead and buy his brand new book links all in the show notes. Plus, you want to go ahead and learn more about David read his bio link over at Brian Nichols show.com. Now for the podcast version of the show. You can catch the podcast the audio only version of the show, wherever it is you consume your favorite podcast, Spotify, YouTube music, Apple podcasts, I prefer podcast addict. Go ahead, hit subscribe and when you do, which I know for all of you out there who are recently joining The Brian Nichols Show audience I see y'all Yeah, we're getting like hundreds of new listeners every single week. So I know there's a lot of you who you haven't checked out some of the episodes from yesterday month yester year, go hit subscribe and download all unplayed episodes. We have about 815 episodes here in the archives going all the way back to 2018. We're we're digging into some very controversial air quotes on the question on controversial for for issues that were raised up in the past that maybe had a narrative but now we're actually going through and talking about Israel a different context. We talked about that with Joe goalless Aryan, for example, about Woodrow Wilson. That's just one example what we did today with FDR, so please go through the archives. Check out some of those awesome conversations. I guarantee a handful of them are going to leave you educated, enlightened and informed. And then of course, the video version of the show YouTube rumble Twitter x.com. Yes, as well as Facebook video versions of the show uploaded in their entirety, please go ahead and give them a share. And when you do again Please make sure you tag yours truly at be Nichols, liberty. And, David, I have one last thing to the audience. And that is please support the folks who support us here at The Brian Nichols Show and that is our phenomenal sponsors. So whether it's our friends over at EP America cardio miracle eagles, CBD liquid freedom, energy, tea, and more, please go ahead and support them because they are the folks who helped us keep the lights on. That's all I have for you today. David, any final words for The Brian Nichols Show audiences wrap things up?

David Beito  35:29  
No great questions has been a pleasure. Thank you. Absolutely. David, thank

Brian Nichols  35:34  
you for joining us. And folks again, please go ahead and check out David's brand new book The new deals war on the Bill of Rights The Untold Story of ftrs concentration camps censorship and mass surveillance link in the show notes. With that being said Brian Nichols signing off here in The Brian Nichols Show for Professor David Beto, we'll see you next time.

Transcribed by https://otter.ai