823: No Income Tax? No Sales Tax? No Problem! - Living Free in New Hampshire

Brian Nichols  0:33  
You've spent years online arguing why libertarian ideas are in fact the best. But are you tired of arguing about libertarian ideas and, frankly, want to start living them? Well, maybe there's a free state up in the Northeast that's calling your name. Yeah. Let's talk about that. Instead of focusing on winning arguments, we're teaching the basic fundamentals of sales and marketing and how we can use them to win in the world of politics, teaching you how to meet people where they're at on the issues they care about. Welcome to The Brian Nichols Show. Well, hey there, folks, Brian Nichols here on The Brian Nichols Show. And thank you for joining us on of course, another episode I am as always your homeboy vote, joining new from all puffy cardio miracle two years beard, Eastern Indiana, The Brian Nichols Show powered by amp America very excited to be part of the amp America team opinion pieces, news articles and more over at amp america.com Find out what's happening in the world without the insane media bias@america.com. And by the way, I mentioned some opinion pieces. I think they're pretty good probably because I write a few every every month or so. So go ahead and check them out. Amp america.com also very excited for The Brian Nichols Show to be sponsored by our phenomenal cardio miracle sponsor here. For our studio sponsorship, cardio miracle folks, I've been just touting the cardio miracle story for the past half year plus at this point, because I've seen the cardio miracle difference for myself. And what is the difference? Well, cardio miracle is a phenomenal supplement powered by nitric oxide that helps improve your heart health, that means a better pump at the gym. That means a better rest restful night's sleep. That also means, folks, if you have you know, maybe some high blood pressure or other heart conditions, yes, starting to address those as well. I speak from experience, I have a family history of high blood pressure. And I was like, Well, I guess this is my life. And then I started using cardio miracle. And I noticed the results. literally overnight, I started sleeping better, I noticed that I started having a better pump at the gym. And then as I went to the doctor's office for my checkup, my blood pressure was going down and they kept going down down to a normal blood pressure of yes, 120 over 80. So if you are like yours truly, and you're looking for that cardio miracle difference, head to the show notes, or if you're watching the video version of the show link in the description. And either way, just use code TBS at checkout, you're gonna get 15% off your order for cardio miracle, and you have nothing to lose, because there's a 100% money back guarantee. So again, one more time link in the show notes. Cardio miracle is in fact, the best heart health supplement in the world. Sign up today. I guarantee your heart will thank you. All right, folks. Two weeks ago, we had Mark Warden on the show he was talking about, maybe you know taking a trip up to a free state in the Northeast one state called New Hampshire. Now if you're going up to New Hampshire to visit and you're saying you know what, maybe I want to set up shop here. Mark was the guy to go ahead and sell you the house. But in terms of the actual why, why do you want to go up to that free state of New Hampshire, there's a lot more built into that, namely, that New Hampshire is the Free State. And with that they have the Free State Project. And we have to dig into that in all the amazing detail it deserves to help me do that returning to the show, longtime friend and a good supporter here of The Brian Nichols Show. Eric brakey. Welcome back to The Brian Nichols Show. What's new, my friend, and what this rumor that you're helping our friends over in New Hampshire now build the Free State Project.

Eric Brakey  4:00  
It has been so long, Brian, it's really great to see you again. Yeah, it's a boy, big life change for me. After 12 years in Maine politics, you know, from the Ron Paul campaign in 2012, across three terms in the Maine Senate, two runs for federal office, I'm packing it up, I'm passing the torch to other kind of folks who are fighting for liberty in Maine who are going to do a great job. And I'm going I'm moving to New Hampshire moving to the Free State. I'm the new executive director of the Free State Project. And I'm going to be working with this really great established community that's constantly growing, been there for about 20 years now the Free State Project, building a Liberty homeland in New Hampshire, and I'm really excited to be a part of it and be able to talk with you all about it, Brian.

Brian Nichols  4:50  
Eric brakey I'm excited. Oh, there we go. helps him hit the right button to help. I'm excited to get to have you on the show because we see this all the time. Right and let's just set the stage for There are so many folks who, especially in the online world, they're just exhausted, right? They live maybe in a hyper progressive Blue City or blue state, or heck, maybe they live in a red state. And they're like, You know what, this red state ain't that red. And they're just tired, right? They're just sick and tired of looking around and seeing nothing change. And yet we have the greatest ideas, we have the greatest solutions. And yet nobody around them seems to really want to embrace these ideas, or at the very least, disrupt the existing status quo. And yet, up in New Hampshire, you guys are actually having the success of not just disrupting the status quo, Eric, but you're bringing real Liberty based solutions that frankly, were like pipe dreams 10 years ago. And now they're actually going into public policy. So you're getting wins on the wall as well, which is huge when it comes to actually getting people on board with a libertarian small l libertarian message. So I want to talk about this Eric, like, let's let's talk about the impact of getting out of the groupthink and the echo chambers of social media world and actually going to a state like New Hampshire and having success and changing the policy.

Eric Brakey  6:04  
Yeah, well, and it helps to understand like, why this particular strategy, like why get all libertarians in one state. And, of course, we're not going to get everyone but we want everyone to join us. If you are someone who loves liberty, and you're living in one of the tyrannical 49. And you are used to being just having your rights trampled upon your money stolen from you. And this is just the normal we're all expected to live with. It doesn't have to be that way. The fact is, as libertarians across America, whether I mean, what are however you label yourself libertarian, constitutional conservative, classical liberal, if you love those ideals of individual liberty, you are a minority, there may be millions of us, but there are 330 million people in America, and so dispersed across the country where a diaspora we are dispersed, we are easily dismissed in both politics and culture. But you bring those people to one state, the Free State the Live Free or Die state, a state with already a strong libertarian spirit and ethic. And interesting things start to happen. We can influence the culture, we can influence the politics. And that's exactly what's happening with the Free State Project 1000s of people over the course of the FSPs existence. Over the last 22 years, I have moved to New Hampshire adjoining liberty loving native Granite Staters, and we can see both in the culture. I mean, the tremendous community that exists. I mean, it's the policy victories are great, but the community is especially wonderful. But the policy victories are really great things to point out to show just the impact that is happening, What's so weird about New Hampshire, right? So not only does New Hampshire have no income tax, no sales tax, I mean, imagine that you get to keep what you earn. It's, it's ranked overall the number one state for freedom in America. But also, you have New Hampshire is leading the way on school choice with money following the child with education freedom accounts. That's New Hampshire was one of the first states to pass this and now it's starting to get rolled out. Other states are following New Hampshire's lead. And that's really exciting to see. But also something very, I love to see is even things that are considered have been for a long time considered very radical, sometimes new ideas are considered radical constitutional carry was once considered radical. And now 28 states have it, Maine and New Hampshire being among the first. But also, New Hampshire just became the very first state to pass in a lower legislative chamber, defend the guard legislation, even challenging the war machine itself, saying that if Congress doesn't declare the wars, you are not authorized to take our National Guardsmen and send them overseas to fight and die in these wars. Congress needs to sign their name to it, or you don't get our men and women in uniform. I mean, that's the boldness that exists with within New Hampshire because of this, this growing community of people who really love and have a principled understanding of liberty having an impact there. And so we would love everyone to come be a part of it. Maybe you're not ready to move tomorrow, Brian, I don't know if you've thought about it. But but maybe you can and should at least come for a visit. We've got the porcupine freedom festival coming up in June. That's a great time to come visit. Come camping with 2000 Well, actually, maybe these days more like 4000 of your favorite libertarians from Scott Horton to Jean Epstein and so many more. That's going to be June 17 to the 23rd at Rogers campground. Have you ever been to pork fest? Brian?

Brian Nichols  9:51  
I have and it's on my shortlist. Eric and in frankly, I got to I got to level with you. I think I might get some pushback after just moving from Philadelphia. EPA out to Indiana which by the way, I will give some credit to Indiana. I think they're one of the strongest, like big L libertarian states that's out there. So if I had to pick one state, I chose that state in the interim. But to your point, right, I mean, New Hampshire, especially if you're in the Northeast right now, like Erica, if you had reached out to me in 2014, right. When I was living in upstate New York, that would have been an absolutely compelling sales pitch. Because here's why. I know New York, I know the northeast, it sucks. It's pretty much a bastion of statism and leftism, and yet, there sits New Hampshire, the shining beacon on the hill in the Northeast. So for any of those states, I mean, heck, states like New York, like Vermont, like Massachusetts, like Connecticut, all in that greater Northeast Corridor, there's so much of an opportunity for you guys to bring some of those disaffected not just libertarians, but folks who are looking at the last leftism, the state ism in their respective states and saying, Enough, but I'm sorry, the folks around me are on board, I need a place to go. And at the very least New Hampshire turns into I think, a very attractive, easier to digest middle ground for them to say, okay, maybe I'm not gonna move from New York State to name you know, Arizona or California, like, you know, if we chose a different free state, but for the folks in the northeast, New Hampshire is at least of you know, well hop, skip and a jump away. It's maybe a couple 100 miles if that. So it makes it much more compelling argument, Eric, I mean, that right there. I think that is a winning message, especially to the folks in the Northeast. So it's on my list of you know, for if I was in the northeast, how about going up to New Hampshire and then to your second part? Yeah, pork fest? It's definitely on my list. I gotta get up there. I've heard nothing but good things. And, yeah, when you actually get a group of libertarians together who do get along in they're not online, it's not so bad. How about that? You know,

Eric Brakey  11:51  
New Hampshire really is it's like our granite fortress of freedom up here in New England. It's the helm steep that we are. We are we are defending ourselves there against the progressive orcs that are surrounding us on all sides. But we are building something, something awesome here. And you know, what's ironic? You know, I always think, you know, there was just released an analysis they do this every year freedom in the 50 states. And New Hampshire was ranked number one, of course, but you know, the state that was ranked dead last, it probably won't surprise you, Brian. It was the Empire State. It was New York State. They are a deadline for freedom in America. And isn't it so ironic? You know, you've got Lady Liberty sitting right there. You know, she's I know she's, she's on the logo of your show. Even? Why does New York state get the Statue of Liberty when they despise liberty? They hate liberty. Right? She needs to move to New Hampshire. She should be right outside of Portsmouth. She would be much more at home there. As well as as well as so many of the freedom loving people who for some reason, are still living in places like upstate New York. In fact, I keep talking with folks that I want to buy like I want to rent like a like a billboard in upstate New York, right? You know, like in New York, they've got like I heart and why I heart New York. It's like their whole thing. Just want to buy a billboard let's just a billboard that says I heard New York, but have but haven't looked like somebody just came and just like defaced it graffitied it, like right over the the Y with an H I love New Hampshire. Why are you still here? This is the least free state in America. Freedom is just a few 100 miles away in that direction. U haul ain't that expensive? Like what are you waiting for? So I

Brian Nichols  13:37  
mean, throw throw that on on the the marketing list you go towards like Plattsburgh, New York, Albany, New York. You got that whole? What does it I 87 Corridor up there through New York, you could put those billboards up and down the interstate get folks in droves who are trying to escape New York City every weekend by going to air quote upstate, which is like Glens Falls or Saratoga Springs, but that's not really upstate like show them that there's Yeah, there is a better option. And frankly, Eric, is it that so many people just don't realize that New Hampshire is an option?

Eric Brakey  14:11  
Well, and I think a lot of people necessarily you don't realize like when you've lived your whole life under tyranny. It's kind of like, explain to a fish what the ocean is, right? It's like you don't, it's like this just feels normal until you think back to

Brian Nichols  14:25  
2020. Right? Like everybody who in their mother was seeing what's happening firsthand. They're like, okay, Florida, we're going to Florida, right? Or Texas? We're getting out. Like, let's go to Texas. And that was a moment. I think people woke up like, why not? New Hampshire? Where were they in New York saying, You know what, New Hampshire's a couple 100 miles away. Florida is literally the opposite end of the country, like where did they miss the boat? Yeah.

Eric Brakey  14:50  
Well, I will say we did see a huge influx of people with the Free State Project during COVID. Frankly, we were losing a lot of people from Maine to I'm over just across the border. And I don't blame them. I'm sorry, I guess I'm coming to join them. But you know, and I think it is actually an interesting contrast, right, you know, New Hampshire versus Florida versus Texas. You know, interesting thing about these other states, right? These are these aren't New Hampshire, I'm sorry, Florida and Texas, they build themselves as conservative states. And in some respects, I suppose they are, you look at freedom in the 50 states, they both rank pretty darn well on economic freedom, you know, low taxes, you get to keep the money that you earn. In fact, I think that in just economic freedom alone, Florida, actually, I think ranks one tick above New Hampshire. But when it comes to personal freedom, your right to live your life as you want as you choose, so long as you're not doing harm to other people. Texas is like near the bottom of the barrel, you do not have personal freedom in Texas, at least in many respects. And and Florida's kind of like towards the middle of the pack. In fact, I think sometimes I was just hearing in Florida, they've they're like so aggressively going after like someone was telling me they're go so aggressively going after a like Chinese owned businesses that they are like, they are, in fact, actually gutting the ability to have like, anonymously owned businesses. So it's like, they're actually they're going so far right? That they're actually going left. And they're like instituting some, like progressive economic policies there. So that's why you need like a Liberty state was where people have firm principles, and they understand what individual liberty is. And we were building upon that, you know, it's the philosophy of Thomas Jefferson. And, frankly, you know, as another statue in New York, that should come to New Hampshire, I don't know if you heard about New York State, they've had like, this historic statue of Thomas Jefferson, at the New York library for 200 years and, and the city council in recent years voted like to get rid of it and box it up and put it in storage because they're embarrassed of Thomas Jefferson, like send that up to New Hampshire, we'll take good care of him. If you're embarrassed to Thomas Jefferson, that sign the author of our Declaration of Independence in New Hampshire, we'd love to have him. Who are

Brian Nichols  17:07  
these people, Eric, frankly, like, I look around, and sometimes I don't recognize my fellow countrymen. And I'm not trying to be insulting or rude. I just like, guys do Do we not share the same history the same, the same context of that history? Or is it something else? Is it truly that we've watched as more and more folks have become slowly just is it like, you know, the frog in the boiling pot? Is it the indoctrination through the government schools? Like what what is it? I don't know. But I mean, I'm very thankful, Eric, right, that for the folks who are awake, and the folks that do have options, that New Hampshire is one of those options, and not only I'm gonna go back to something you, you articulated earlier, you're not just talking about policy, right? And this, I want to really drive home, you're building a Liberty culture. And that is huge. Why Andrew Breitbart, the late great, Andrew Breitbart, he talked about this a lot, right? Politics is always downstream from culture, doesn't matter how great your policies are, how great your solutions are, if the folks you're trying to sell it to aren't on board yet, right? It's like the old Marty McFly he's like, you might not like it, but your kids are gonna love it. Right? Like, that's the exact same mentality is that you have to build that culture. And you guys are doing that. Just phenomenally. I mean, you have liberty form up there. You have pork fest up there. So talk to us more, Eric about what you guys are doing in New Hampshire to help build not just a state that's focused on liberty policy, but Liberty culture. Yeah,

Eric Brakey  18:34  
you know, the policy aspects get a lot of attention as they should. Right. I mean, it's amazing the the policy improvements for liberty that are happening in New Hampshire, and you know, some people they come, they come to the Free State they and their way of getting involved is similar to how I chose to get involved in the fight for liberty, right. Some people run for office, we've got over 60 people in the house of representatives who are you know, strong liberty loving people. But that's not the only way some people there they're building homeschool coops and we have strong like, family networks that are working together through utilizing things like things like the education freedom accounts to really have strong alternatives, home based education models. That's that's exciting. I mean, New Hampshire was also the cradle of cryptocurrency if it wasn't for New Hampshire, in the early years of Bitcoin, basically nurturing it and rocking it in the cradle, and like keeping it like building it up in those days when it was just a few pennies a Bitcoin, right? We might not see Bitcoin as the worldwide phenomenon that we have today. But even smaller things, I don't know some people like to get together and I know a guy who's like organizing like rucking groups. You know, they're just gonna men going out hiking together like or people who start yellow knitting groups, whatever your thing is. The great thing is when you have community of 1000s and 1000s of people There are inevitably people there who share your interests and you can build a I don't know you can build a Liberty Dungeons and Dragons group I don't know whatever floats your boat. I mean it's it's it's it's a it's a bottom up decentralized movement and and you the best place to really experience that and see it firsthand get a sense of that community what you could have in New Hampshire is to come to pork Fest this summer. And I Brian, I know you got to you got to your new father with a little girl. So I don't know if your wife is going to let you escape to pork Fest this summer. But I do want you to know that pork fest is a family friendly freedom Festival. In fact, last year, there were over 400 Kids in attendance as as as families have grown up in the in the Free State movement pork Fest has become has really developed a lot of stuff that that caters to families. I know I'm going to be doing like with a with the little kids. I'm going to be doing a storytime reading the Tuttle twins and the Creature from Jekyll Island, you know, let them know, early about the dangers of the Federal Reserve.

Brian Nichols  21:05  
Are you going to put on your drag queen wig?

Eric Brakey  21:08  
You know, I'll leave that at home. I'll leave that at home. And with the older kids, I'm going to be doing a mock legislature. We're going to see what they come up with what laws they want to abolish and destroy. But

Brian Nichols  21:21  
by the way, Tuttle twins Books A plus by the way. Yeah.

Eric Brakey  21:25  
They're excellent. They're excellent. I've been I I've been working in my district in Maine as a substitute teacher to well, when I'm not in Augusta, and it's boy, it's tempting to want to like bring in Tuttle twins books and just like, flip them in the slip. I'm in there. I

Brian Nichols  21:44  
got my daughter. For for was it Christmas? It was the brave books. Oh, goodness, the elephants are not birds. And my father in law was just over and he was reading the book. And he turns me goes, this is a really good kid's book. And I was like, Thanks. Thanks. I appreciate that father in law. But really quick, Eric, I just want to really go back to something you mentioned earlier about culture to like knitting club, Dungeons and Dragons World of Warcraft like, man, you just kind of like opened a door here, Eric. And it speaks to I think, where a lot of folks in the audience need to hear this. And this is why I want to focus on this for a second because we get lost all the time in libertarian solutions, libertarian principles, the dogma, that the policy but do we really get involved in like the culture like we should not just like going out and having a role but actually letting the things that we enjoy to do outside of the world of politics be shone through us? Like, you know what, I probably should look at myself in the mirror here because folks in the audience they hear me for now, what 825 episodes somewhere in there the show going back in 2018. How many times have you been on the show talking about I like to play fortnight I like to play Madden. I'm a classically trained musician. I sing I play piano, I played tuba, like, these are all things that make me me. Like, I don't talk about that though. And shame on me shame on us. We don't talk about the things that we like to do. And frankly, not just the things that we like to do, but the things we'd like to do with other people. You talked about the importance, Eric of community and like, I just look around in the liberty movement and loneliness. It seeps through the online chats and interactions I see not just in the Liberty world though, but like, loneliness. Loneliness across the board is is hitting so many folks right now. Yeah, and I think a lot of is just because we don't do stuff together anymore. And and man, just like the fact that again, shame on me, I don't talk about this stuff. Because I want to talk about the solutions. I want to talk about the next shiny thing that can help solve our problems in the world. But am I doing enough to help build a culture that's beyond the world of politics? I don't think I am and I like the fact that you guys are doing this in New Hampshire like, yeah, go start a Madden club, go start a fortnight club. I don't know just do something in person build those real relationships? Because, and I saw this during COVID. Eric, like even the sales conversations for folks who don't know I'm a sales executive for my day job. And just going from the in person conversations, right when you finish a meeting, and being able to have that five to 10 minutes afterwards. It's just chit chat, right? Like hey, how are your kids? Hey, how's the family? Where did you grew up? Again, like stuff like that? Versus when you finish a meeting right now like if you're working remote or you're doing everything via like teams or stuff like that? You hang up the call and you're done. You don't get that that that personal connection not just with the prospect but with your co workers. Like you're missing out on so much of that and put my conspiracy theory hat on for a second like was that on purpose was that by design naked? So we weren't part of a close knit community. One could say probably Eric, but I mean, I want to take a step back I mean, that's probably only my final thoughts just for the episode, but like culture, in person doing things that are overtly non political with people who maybe are political, but focusing on things that we can actually enjoy outside of that world, I think that's so important man.

Eric Brakey  25:14  
Yeah, the most radical thing and you can do in the world, to oppose the state is to be a good neighbor. And to be a good father, a good mother, a good family, man, good family woman, is to build those ties with people that negate the need for the state to come in and take care of people, if we're taking care of our neighbors. If we're building community and building solutions within those communities for problems, then you don't need a state, nobody's running to the state and saying, fix this, if we all are good neighbors, and we just lend a helping hand when someone needs a helping hand. And so that's what we're we're building in New Hampshire, a strong community of people who look to help their neighbors don't look to run to the state to commit acts of violence against their neighbors, in order to bring about some kind of solution that they could have just, you know, we could have just all helped each other out and found a better solution. So I'm so excited. I mean, this is part of the reason why I'm so excited to have accepted the job with the Free State Project and to go to New Hampshire, as I realized, for myself, as I've devoted the last 12 years of my life, to electoral politics, you know, I've realized, like, I haven't given myself the time to, like, really start and focus on family. I haven't given myself like, like you talked about, I used to be like, I love theater. Like I used to be a professional actor, I haven't had an answer to that in like a decade, right. But it's like people are now like people in the Free State movement, or like putting on plays about like, the revolutionary history of New Hampshire in the in the pine tree riots, like, sign me up, I want to be a part of that. Right? There are so many ways to help Fighting for liberty in the legislature or even on Twitter. If that's your thing, though, I think they're probably better uses of your time than just fighting on Twitter, right, or x, whatever it is. But build community, we're building it in New Hampshire and even if you just come for a visit, and come be a part of our community for a week, Brian, I hope that you do join us whether it's this summer or a future summer when your daughter is maybe a little bit maybe when she's a little bit older, she can come with you and and, and see all the great family programs that we have there. But we'd love to have you come visit and that offer is extended to all of your audience. Folks can check out pork fest.com That's pork with a C not with a K kind of like how Eric is spelled with a C not with a K. Pork fest is spelled with a C not a K, don't go to pork fest with a que.com. You might find delicious barbecue, but you're not going to find the family friendly freedom festival. You're looking for pork fest with pork fest.com. Come join us. And I'd love to see you there, Brian and your audience as well. And that's in June this year, right? June 17. To the 23rd.

Brian Nichols  28:01  
There you go, folks. And Eric, I'm gonna do my best, I want to make it a point to get up there. And see, you see the amazing folks at the Free State Project, see folks who aren't part of FSP but frankly, just folks had been in our world for a long, long time. So ya know, Eric, it this is this is exactly how we win, right? We win by not just talking about the policy, which is important, but also by building something different in both the worlds of policy and culture. And that's what the Free State Project is doing. And, man, I'm just gonna say FSP you guys are in great hands have an Eric on board. Eric is one of the good ones. So Eric, thank you for joining us here on the show. Thank you for taking the reigns over at FSP and helping guide them to the next step in their their adventure here. And I'm excited to see where you guys are headed next. So with that pork fest, yes, links are going to be in the show notes. If you're interested in signing up to attend Yes, pork Fest this year pork with us see the link in the show notes. Please go ahead. Check that out. And that when you go to pork fest say Hey, I heard you guys talk about this over on The Brian Nichols Show. I know Eric loves to hear that. So and by the way, one last thing we have like literally 10s of 1000s of new folks in the audience here this year. Eric, our numbers are up 300%. So there are so many folks who are listening now, man.

Eric Brakey  29:15  
Thanks, man. Tim cast bump.

Brian Nichols  29:19  
Shy Oh, maybe I don't know. You came out of nowhere, honestly. And but we're really cool with it. And I'm okay with that. So there's a lot of folks, Eric, who didn't hear you before. And I want them to not only go out and check that old episode with you back in the show. But also I want them to go ahead and say hi, when when they wrap up today's episode tell Eric, you heard on The Brian Nichols Show. Tell mark that you heard him The Brian Nichols Show. And if you end up moving to New Hampshire, I'll have to let Mark know that I do expect my commission check in the mail that just Eric, it's been a great conversation, my friend. Where Can folks go ahead follow you personally if they want to continue the conversation and reach out? Yeah,

Eric Brakey  29:52  
hit me up on x at Senator breaky Senator

Brian Nichols  29:57  
Breakey Yes, and that's names gonna be Pulling away soon. Are you changing your handle anytime soon?

Eric Brakey  30:02  
You know, I don't know. You know, it drives the progressives crazy that I have one of their, like, sacred religious titles. So I don't know. Probably I will need to retire it in some fashion but but you know or.

Brian Nichols  30:15  
Or we're just setting you up for a future where I don't know US Senator Eric, I might be putting the cart before the horse there but I tried that

Speaker 1  30:26  
once before. Hey, you you learned

Brian Nichols  30:29  
what not to do once before now you know what to do. So I think you're in a good spot. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  30:34  
maybe who knows?

Brian Nichols  30:36  
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Eric Brakey  32:02  
that folks can also find me we I have a new weekly podcast called the porcupine report. You can find that on all your favorite podcasting apps and on the Free State Project X Facebook and YouTube pages.

Brian Nichols  32:15  
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