Dec. 18, 2024

E305: Golfing Under the Lights at Shadow Creek, PGA's Says Farewell to Vegas, and Another Slow Play Rant

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What if golfing under the stars could transform Las Vegas into a night-time golfer’s paradise? This episode of the Chasing Daylight podcast explores that exciting possibility, along with the intriguing dynamics at play between PGA and LIV tour players. We kick things off by discussing the Crypto.com showdown at Shadow Creek and the surprising departure of the PGA Tour from Las Vegas after a 42-year tradition. Amidst the sports buzz in Vegas, we also share a lighthearted take on the Raiders’ rocky season and celebrate the Vegas Golden Knights’ winning streak, hinting at the exciting potential of a future NBA team joining the city's vibrant sports scene.

Our conversation takes an interesting turn as we recount the unique broadcast format of a recent golf tournament that left viewers scratching their heads. Rory McIlroy’s and Scottie Scheffler’s standout performances are front and center, while the evolving rivalry between Bryson DeChambeau and Brooks Koepka adds another layer of intrigue. We dive into the charm of Shadow Creek, the untapped potential of night golf, and how this could enhance the Las Vegas golf scene. Plus, we touch on the missed opportunities for courses like Angel Park to capitalize on this novel idea and the allure of playing iconic courses under the moonlight.

Finally, we tackle the age-old problem of slow play on the golf course with humor and a touch of frustration. From hilarious stories of grumpy marshals to creative suggestions like a “golfer’s license” for proper etiquette, we explore solutions to keep the game moving. We wrap up on a festive note, sharing warm holiday wishes and a few laughs over the infamous “Potty Putter” gift. As we sign off, we thank our listeners for their support, leaving them with a light-hearted reminder to embrace kindness and consider the thoughtfulness behind every gift this holiday season.

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what is up everybody?

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Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight podcast.

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Vegas Golf is in the news.

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If you, or anybody or anyone that follows the golf world, vegas was center stage tonight as the Cryptocom showdown at Shadow wrapped up about an hour and a half ago.

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About what?

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About an hour and a half ago?

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I don't know, yeah, about an hour and a half ago um, so we're gonna be chatting about that.

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Uh, also in vegas golf news, the pga tour has decided 42 years was a long enough run.

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Uh, we're not going back to vegas.

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We had feelings that was gonna happen, but but that sucked.

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That sucked, our boy HasherHack.

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We'll have an update on that and then maybe get into a slow play rant.

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I don't know.

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I had in chipping and chatting earlier this week, I had a little talk about an idea that I had that, you know, some people liked it, some people didn't, but we'll see.

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And then also, big news, we'll do after the break, beautiful golf courses and us, the CDP, are teaming up for a fantasy golf league that you're going to want to find out about.

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So stick around for that.

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Other than that, you don't want to make sure that we stick around for that.

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Other than that, uh, you know, want to make sure that we give some love to the people who support us.

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Uh, that is, uh, the golf stop, roars, golf las vegas golf superstore and our friend scott russo from unwritten law.

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The intro we love it so how you fellas doing this evening doing well.

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Yeah, it's great fantastic fantastic, fantastic raiders were on monday night football, and what a game.

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What a fucking game.

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So good, oh, it was incredible.

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A 9, 15 shellacking at the end.

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Raiders are two and what two and twelve?

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Fucking, just what a what a fucking awesome.

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Hey, they, they.

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They said they pull out the win.

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They're seventh on the board for the draft.

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What 2-12?

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Fucking, just what a fucking awesome football team bro.

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They said they pull out the win.

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They're seventh on the board for the draft Now third number in the two spot.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's a bit of a shit show down there, but it's par for the course.

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You can say that for the last 20, 25 years.

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You know what I see?

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They're playing with heart and they're trying.

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They just don't have the tools right now, just shit dude.

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Yeah, just shit, Well I mean you know it starts at the top.

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You got a bad coach.

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You got a bad quarterback.

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You got a shit ton of injuries, so many injuries.

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It's a bad product.

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Yeah.

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And unfortunately, in the NFL.

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When that happens, you don't win games.

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So Raiders are struggling.

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The men's UNLV basketball team is struggling.

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They lost a heartbreaker tonight, last second on the road against the number 22 team in the country.

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That would have been a nice win.

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But somebody tweeted earlier today that the UNLV football team number 22 team in the country.

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That would have been a nice win.

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But another somebody uh tweeted earlier today that the uh unlv football team in back-to-back seasons has more wins than the men's basketball team in december.

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So, dude, that's so it's crazy when you think about unlv sports, though, like they used to be a force when it came to basketball oh yeah bro, like you have no idea jeremy like 1990.

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Bro, like you have no idea how I I love watching them in 1990, I bet 18 000 people packed in the team on tuesday nights gucci row, I mean god rebel room fucking it was crazyquet fucking short rib and banquet chicken breast Just flying.

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Just out of the banquet colanders.

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Someday It'll come back, it was glorious.

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It was absolutely glorious.

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Nothing lives forever, nope.

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We got the Knights on a hot run right now.

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They're doing well.

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I said earlier, you know, in my chipping and chatting tonight or earlier today, you know this is the hotbed of sports right now.

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We've got NFL team.

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We've got NHL franchise that won the Stanley Cup.

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The Aces have won multiple championships.

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You got the Formula One with its second year, two NASCAR races, two NHRA races, a marathon, the AAA baseball, aaa hockey.

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Now we got a basketball facility that's being built.

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So you know there's an NBA team coming.

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The A's are coming.

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The best damn rodeo in the world, yeah, the best damn rodeo ever.

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The best damn rodeo in the world yeah, best rodeo, rodeo in the world yeah, all kinds of we just had the super bowl, we had conference championships, the nfl draft, I mean, there's so much going on and, uh, you know the pg we got no golf looked that over and went man, there's no reason for us to be there.

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Yeah, it's absolutely pathetic, I think.

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I think it will make a return and it.

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You know how sometimes they change it up a little bit later in the year they can change the schedules.

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We'll see Maybe maybe someone will come through.

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Maybe somebody actually went.

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You know what?

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Yeah, october is awesome weather, but we can't have a pga event in vegas in october.

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We, we got to move this to spring, you know, and and get.

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I want to see him at fucking coyote, bro, like, like, that's what I'm dying to see.

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I want to see those guys at coyote.

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Yeah, I really do like, are it?

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Am I wrong there?

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Do you guys not want to see?

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I do want to, for sure.

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I mean, I know it's out there, right, but you know they can get shuttled, but I would love to see those guys play at Coyote Springs.

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What makes it so appealing for you to want to see them out there.

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I mean.

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I know why, but people listening may not know why.

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You can stretch it out to the length that they play on PGA right.

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They can play the length.

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The greens are not easy.

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It's not very forgiving, you know, and it's a hidden gem that a lot of people have no clue about, like even like people coming into town, they ask us what should we play?

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You know, and for us, like we know, coming into town, they ask us what should we play?

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You know, and for us, like we know, the courses that they should play, you know it used to be um prim was always one that we would suggest, but it's piute, boulder creek or coyote springs.

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Yep, I mean I'd love to see them play boulder creek too, but I don't think that has as much character as Coyote does.

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And obviously, with Corn Fairy going to Paiute, they ate that shit up and I think maybe they wouldn't be able to eat Coyote up as as much as the Corn Fairy did at Paiute.

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I know it's out there, but you know it's.

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It's not an easy golf course and I think it would provide a great test to the best players in the world and I would love to see what they can do out there dan, what's kyle kyle shoot out there if he plays it probably a couple under two to four under probably yeah, well, it depends on pins.

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You can like they can pins.

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He can do that.

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They're not going to make him Mitch's revenge pins they're going to make him.

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I know that.

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I agree with you for the most part, Joe.

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That's a good test.

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The one thing about it is that it's terrible to walk for guests and stuff and they won't that I won't pick a golf course that won't you know.

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Get people out there well, black desert is not an easy walk for spectators, that's true, that's true, but they do have room out there to put up grandstands and stuff.

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Um, I don't know if they could do that at uh, on certain roles, with all the empty house lots.

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Yeah, they could.

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I mean I'm sure they could but you know with all the shrubbery that's yeah, but not only that, but like, if you think about the golf course, there's really not a lot of home sites that are right on the golf course.

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You have all those shrubs and nasty rocks and then there.

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there's points where you pass under the bridge twice, like there's two different spots where you pass under the bridge twice.

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There's two different spots where you pass under the bridge Am I wrong.

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There You're right.

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You can put concessions there, they would have to have the clubhouse built where it's supposed to be built.

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Exactly On top of the ranch.

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Not a fucking trailer.

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Not a trailer.

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Hopefully in the future.

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I would love to see them out there.

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I mean, I think that is the hardest golf course in our vicinity.

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Am I wrong there?

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I would be curious what's so high is rated now that they've moved the fairways in.

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You know that they've tightened that place up, just as I.

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I know it's shorter and it's, uh, a little bit more forgiving than than coyote, but I well, when those, when the coyote greens are quick, like I don't think there's anything harder, so I I would just I would love to see them out there.

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I would love badlands maybe back in the day oh, that's gone.

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I would just love to see them out there, I think.

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I think it'd be really cool to see those guys out there, because they should get the skins game out there that'd be really rad, that would be cool.

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That would be cool yeah, so uh well that's supposed to be coming back, right yeah, they're supposed to be yeah, so that'd be great.

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I'd love it we'll uh keep our ears to the, you know, ears to the ground, and if we hear something, I mean the schedule's out.

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So 2025, it's gone it.

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You know there's no PGA Tour event in Vegas this year.

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Haven't seen the live schedule yet, but based on the ads that I saw during the showdown tonight certainly looked like Vegas is still in the mix, because there was a lot of Vegas in that.

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They still haven't released a full schedule for that Dan shared earlier.

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Earlier there was rumbling all over the place that uh, fox sports and them, or with the live, is about to uh have a deal, which I mean it's got to be better than the cw.

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But that would help.

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It would help a little bit but my, my beef with it is, you know, no, no matter the product.

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If the product is good, people are going to watch it, no matter what it's on.

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You know, the CW wasn't the reason why people weren't watching it.

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Yeah, true, in my opinion it's because the product is just trash Opinion.

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Opinion.

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It also wasn't Faraday.

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It was great to hear Faraday on the broadcast tonight, yeah yeah I mean people, I think is, I think I, I think it's a scramble format.

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I think it's like players are playing different holes and in different order, which is hard to put out there.

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It's hard I mean when we were on the grounds you don't know how many holes are left.

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It got a little, you know, turn around where, and especially because they mixed the holes up for us, because what we're used to and they flipped it and it was just an odd with that.

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But I don't know, I just didn't get, I just don't get the product on tv.

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I think it could be better, but hey, so, uh, jeremy's talked with him a little bit before we hopped on here.

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He, he saw a little bit of it, joe.

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You saw some of it.

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Dan, did you watch most of it tonight?

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Yeah, I watched.

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Uh, yeah, pretty much all of it, pretty much all of it all right, good, so we got.

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We have some decent feedback here.

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Uh, we'll start with you, dan, since you you saw probably the second most because I watched it from from the beginning, so I don't know if you watch the whole thing or not, but, uh, what was your, what was your overall thoughts of what took place?

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um, I definitely liked a lot better than the uh, last one with, like, gritsky and all that stuff.

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Um, I mean, I, that was hard to watch.

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Um, but when you have the top players in the world, especially from the PGA, I'd say the top two players are probably Rory and Scotty, and then arguably from Liv, it's Brooks and him I mean Rom's up there too.

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But it was just good to see all those guys back playing again.

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It's crazy to see the evolution of the Bryce and Brooksy feud, that now they're pals and stuff.

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So I thought it was good.

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I thought it was.

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I can't wait for the PGA to get their ass moving and get these guys back on their one tour again so we can see them all playing again.

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But it was awesome.

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The course looked great.

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It looked tough.

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The greens looked very hard.

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Those guys had, yeah, those guys had a tough time stopping that again.

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But uh, it was, it was awesome.

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The course looked great, looked tough.

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The greens look, uh, very hard.

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Um, those guys had, yeah, those guys had a tough time stopping that ball today.

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But, um, as always, um, you know, shadow creek is the showcase and uh, it looked really good under the lights, especially like right at uh, like that golden hour, because you can see the sky and the three.

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They're playing three and four.

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Yeah, yeah, like oh yeah, yeah, that was.

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Uh, that was looking real nice out there bryson's t shot on four, almost landed on the three fairway.

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He hit that so far left.

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Yeah, it was, it was yeah, there was definitely some wild shots from those guys tonight from bryson and brooks yeah, uh, I mean scott scotty and rory handled him pretty easily I was chatting with uh buddy nick at la at LA Golf and I was like Rice is not doing a really good job of selling new gear for you guys right now because his putting was off and the new driver he was spraying it.

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Yeah, I mean, do you think that's a thing where they you know they're, they're good, right, Like they don't need to win tournaments, Like do you think that's an actual thing where they don't grind as hard as the guys on PGA tour?

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Well, I think when you're making video content playing from the forward tees and then spend.

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You know.

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What about hitting over your house?

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I mean, you're hitting a shot over your house.

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You know a wet shot over your house, you know, I mean that's.

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That's not real golf, it's not competitive.

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He grinds, though I think I'm sure he does too he's dude, he's a talent, it's yeah, I think a lot of it has to do too with the fact that they do play a more relaxed schedule.

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Like you know, pga tour, you know those guys are there's significant tournaments where you can play in four or five weeks in a row, six week spans.

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They're not doing that at live, you know.

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They're playing one week, taking three weeks off and going back and playing another one.

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You know.

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So I think there's little gaps in in time where they they're not as dialed or get a little lazy.

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That's the thing.

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It's easy to get out of that groove right, like if you're not in the pga tour, like schedule, like you can go home for a week or you play a tournament for a week and then you're off for four weeks and it's just like I can chill, my bank account is stacked like I don't have to worry about it.

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And uh, that can be a case depending on where you live.

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Also, like if you're not, if you're not around players where they're able to play money games, because a lot of these guys play money games with a lot of people that in the vicinity where they live.

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So, and you got to think too.

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You know, scotty just won world hero, so he's still in form, in competition, form over great field.

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Rory just won the race to Dubai again.

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So you know, brooks and bryson, they've been hitting shots over their house, so I haven't seen him play in long like I don't even know yeah, yeah.

00:16:15.184 --> 00:16:19.557
So I mean can't really be surprised by the result yeah, no, and there was.

00:16:19.957 --> 00:16:20.559
Surprisingly.

00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:21.562
I was shocked.

00:16:21.562 --> 00:16:27.907
Uh, I thought there would be some William Hill action on the showdown but it wasn't on the board.

00:16:27.907 --> 00:16:28.187
Shout out.

00:16:28.207 --> 00:16:28.690
William Hill.

00:16:30.400 --> 00:16:34.071
Shout out William Hill for not participating in the farce.

00:16:35.402 --> 00:16:37.067
Were you going to bet on Rory and Scotty?

00:16:37.649 --> 00:16:38.610
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:43.206
Okay, so they owe you $10 then yeah, $5 probably.

00:16:44.061 --> 00:16:49.946
You can't not bet on Scotty I mean, come on, it's the one and two players in the world, like you said, and they've been playing golf.

00:16:49.946 --> 00:16:51.770
Yeah, yeah, they've been playing.

00:16:52.041 --> 00:16:56.557
Honestly, I really thought I really thought brooks and bryson were probably gonna win, like I.

00:16:56.557 --> 00:17:02.967
I don't know why I felt that, but I was incorrect yeah.

00:17:03.448 --> 00:17:04.210
Jeremy, what'd you think?

00:17:06.152 --> 00:17:07.894
I'm definitely buying a Reebok coat.

00:17:07.894 --> 00:17:13.844
So that was that was the highlight for me.

00:17:13.844 --> 00:17:17.031
And the shoes definitely the dad shoes for sure, getting those.

00:17:17.031 --> 00:17:20.208
No, I, I, I didn't finish it.

00:17:20.208 --> 00:17:25.089
I only watched the first six holes, so I have a bunch to watch still, but the course was incredible.

00:17:25.089 --> 00:17:26.566
It just makes you want to play there even more.

00:17:26.566 --> 00:17:33.230
I'm really trying to justify setting aside some money every month to throw down a shadow.

00:17:33.290 --> 00:17:38.348
Yeah yeah, it was probably the best the first six holes I watched.

00:17:38.348 --> 00:17:41.605
It's probably the best one of those things that I've watched in a while.

00:17:41.605 --> 00:17:45.069
I don't remember another one that had me that interested.

00:17:45.069 --> 00:17:47.166
So I'm excited to finish it.

00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:48.363
Real golfers.

00:17:48.363 --> 00:17:50.128
You know real golfers.

00:17:50.128 --> 00:17:52.266
Thank you, please.

00:17:52.266 --> 00:17:53.648
Let's see.

00:17:53.648 --> 00:17:54.672
Westgate had it.

00:17:54.672 --> 00:17:57.228
Pga was 160-ish all week.

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All right, what's up William Hill?

00:18:01.105 --> 00:18:01.727
What's up with that?

00:18:03.430 --> 00:18:04.111
Come on, Billy.

00:18:04.111 --> 00:18:10.667
Yeah, yeah, joe, side note did you guys see that they're bringing back the Skins game?

00:18:12.432 --> 00:18:15.145
Yeah, they need to play Coyote Springs.

00:18:15.828 --> 00:18:19.405
Oh, they need to have.

00:18:19.405 --> 00:18:20.087
What is it?

00:18:20.087 --> 00:18:20.750
Here it is.

00:18:20.750 --> 00:18:25.592
We got some breaking news.

00:18:25.592 --> 00:18:26.615
Uh.

00:18:26.615 --> 00:18:36.942
Alessandro, chiming in on instagram, talked with his gm waiting for her reply and solution for king of the green, all right, so keep our fingers crossed for that.

00:18:36.942 --> 00:18:38.684
Any vgn members listening?

00:18:39.527 --> 00:18:41.911
shout out aj yes, thank you.

00:18:42.172 --> 00:18:52.182
he's helping facilitate the king of the green at Popstroke and what we're going to do is, whoever we're not going to have a small limited field.

00:18:52.182 --> 00:19:05.086
As many VGN guys that want to show up and participate in this, we can, and Joe had a beautiful suggestion Take the top 32 scores, you qualify for the tournament side of it and we'll whittle it down from there.

00:19:05.086 --> 00:19:08.836
So, uh, it won't be limited to 32 players this time.

00:19:08.836 --> 00:19:13.326
We can have 33 or 34.

00:19:13.767 --> 00:19:19.560
so yeah, that'll be a good time yeah, we're gonna do it on a weeknight, uh, not weekend, uh, so we can kind of.

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It's a little cooler out right now, but they got heaters out there, they got amazing food, the bar is right there and during the week it won't be as crowded and so we can kind of, you know, maybe take over the facility and have a good time.

00:19:38.434 --> 00:19:41.457
I need Popstroke to like release a fucking season pass.

00:19:41.457 --> 00:19:44.911
They have one.

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Unlimited play for $30 a month.

00:19:50.923 --> 00:19:54.067
a month oh okay, I didn't know that.

00:19:54.067 --> 00:19:57.473
Yeah or aj, or ag, aj, aj, yeah, he's, aj, he's aj, let everybody know what it is.

00:19:57.653 --> 00:19:59.501
I I may be underselling it.

00:19:59.501 --> 00:20:04.253
I don't know if it was um yeah, what I mean?

00:20:04.294 --> 00:20:05.076
pop stroke is great.

00:20:05.076 --> 00:20:08.363
I mean they should be a sponsor of the podcast, because we talk about them all the time.

00:20:08.384 --> 00:20:08.984
I mean what a?

00:20:09.025 --> 00:20:11.510
fantastic facility, two courses.

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You can go out there, play all the time.

00:20:13.923 --> 00:20:14.825
You play all day.

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You pay like 30 bucks.

00:20:16.167 --> 00:20:22.987
Fantastic food really great beer selections and if you got a sweet tooth, get some ice cream Really good ice cream.

00:20:22.987 --> 00:20:25.652
The nachos are bomb too.

00:20:25.652 --> 00:20:26.913
It's the spot to be.

00:20:26.913 --> 00:20:38.426
Cliff hasn't been yet, surprisingly, but you should go check it out Cliff's busy playing, checking off every course he can.

00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:40.887
Cliff's playing every course at Pioneers right now.

00:20:40.887 --> 00:20:42.224
He says fuck Pop Street.

00:20:43.980 --> 00:20:49.451
He did get in play tobacco, though it looks like that that was that the first checkoff for tobacco, I think I saw.

00:20:50.272 --> 00:20:51.897
So yeah, he played that today.

00:20:51.939 --> 00:20:53.622
He said it's a soul golfer seven.

00:20:53.662 --> 00:20:59.311
So clips my spirit animal what is a?

00:20:59.471 --> 00:21:05.309
a fantastic spirit animal, if you human as a spirit animal joe.

00:21:05.369 --> 00:21:05.650
What did you?

00:21:05.650 --> 00:21:09.025
What is, what is your thoughts on the showdown at shadow?

00:21:10.188 --> 00:21:14.176
I mean, I, I watched, I watched uh from 11 on.

00:21:14.176 --> 00:21:17.547
Uh, kids were eating, so I couldn't focus too much on it.

00:21:17.547 --> 00:21:25.569
But, um, I just wanted, I just wanted to go play shadow creek, because that's the one that I gotta check off, you know.

00:21:25.569 --> 00:21:26.842
So it's.

00:21:26.842 --> 00:21:32.540
It's a fantastic facility, golf course, and I have yet to play it, and that that was my main takeaway.

00:21:32.540 --> 00:21:34.064
I want to go play shadow creek.

00:21:34.064 --> 00:21:35.848
It'll happen one day.

00:21:35.848 --> 00:21:39.722
I have no, I have no concerns that I I won't get to play.

00:21:39.722 --> 00:21:41.025
I know I'm gonna play it one day.

00:21:41.025 --> 00:21:43.910
However it happens, it will happen one of these days.

00:21:44.050 --> 00:21:52.978
But, um, yeah, this make you want to play it more, or you want to play it as well yeah, equally as well.

00:21:53.259 --> 00:21:55.064
I mean, I would love to play it under the lights.

00:21:55.124 --> 00:21:59.281
That would be really cool a lot of people can't say they've done it that way, you know.

00:22:00.223 --> 00:22:18.770
Yeah, I mean dude Shadow Creek could do whatever they want, right, like they could open it up to all the ballers of MGM Properties and they could charge us $700 to go play at night, you know, and we'd probably pay it, you know.

00:22:19.161 --> 00:22:20.403
Well, that's what I was thinking.

00:22:20.403 --> 00:22:28.601
Uh, you know, they have these, these high rollers that come in there and what, what do you think?

00:22:28.601 --> 00:22:33.089
How many requests do you think they have gotten to?

00:22:33.089 --> 00:22:35.400
What's it going to cost me to play at night?

00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:38.663
Yeah, I don't know.

00:22:39.025 --> 00:22:59.282
I mean, you got all these people with this fu money that you know there's only yeah only phil and tiger, and now rory scotty bryson well, phil tiger only played the 19th hole under the lights, I know, but it was at night, so I'm just I'm you know, before I say, the only guys that have played it at night will have you know.

00:22:59.282 --> 00:23:02.192
Heavy breather comments about uh hey, what about?

00:23:02.192 --> 00:23:03.375
What about tiger?

00:23:03.978 --> 00:23:04.579
most of these people.

00:23:04.579 --> 00:23:16.442
They'd have to be like, hey, you gotta install extra lights in the trees because I'm not gonna find my ball, you know so but do you think there's somebody out there that's going all right?

00:23:16.784 --> 00:23:19.270
what's it gonna take for me to get my crew out there to play at night?

00:23:19.270 --> 00:23:21.866
Do they just do?

00:23:21.886 --> 00:23:31.866
they just say just say, I mean in the in the prime months, like in spring and like October, like there's people that would love to do that and maybe they make that a thing.

00:23:31.866 --> 00:23:39.144
I mean, if they're going to do it for the match, they would probably do it for a big whale in the casino, you know.

00:23:39.144 --> 00:23:43.691
So I could really only see that being a summertime thing.

00:23:43.691 --> 00:23:47.604
I don't think they're gonna want to be out there like tonight.

00:23:47.663 --> 00:23:55.361
No, no, oh, no not tonight, but like, like, like april to october, sure dude, I would, I would love to.

00:23:55.602 --> 00:23:58.525
I would love to see piute go okay.

00:23:58.525 --> 00:24:00.428
2025.

00:24:00.428 --> 00:24:12.127
From june 1st to July 15th, the Wolf course is night golf only and we have it lit up and it's normally 125.

00:24:12.127 --> 00:24:18.606
During the day, it's 225, or sorry, let me rephrase that it's normally $300 in the day, it's 375 to play at night.

00:24:20.424 --> 00:24:31.253
Well, any course in Las Vegas that doesn't see this tonight and realize there's a huge opportunity for them to put out night golf is absolutely fucking crazy.

00:24:31.253 --> 00:24:33.567
You could do it anywhere in Las Vegas.

00:24:33.567 --> 00:24:37.619
You could do it at Angel Park, you could do it at Desert Pines Valley High, wherever.

00:24:37.619 --> 00:24:39.586
I think that courses with houses won't be.

00:24:39.666 --> 00:24:40.249
I don't yeah.

00:24:40.500 --> 00:24:42.929
You couldn't do it at Revere, you couldn't do it at Legacy.

00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:45.873
I know they wouldn't let you want you't do it at Revere, you couldn't do it at Legacy.

00:24:45.873 --> 00:24:53.185
I know they wouldn't let you want you to do it, but any course that doesn't see this and try and capitalize this on this opportunity is absolutely insane.

00:24:53.660 --> 00:24:56.346
Did you know that Wild Horse has lights at the range For a long?

00:24:56.366 --> 00:24:58.811
time yes.

00:24:59.701 --> 00:25:01.307
Wild Horse has lights at the range.

00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:03.185
Yeah, they don't turn them on.

00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:04.561
No, do you know why?

00:25:04.582 --> 00:25:06.626
Darden said he could, he could put the.

00:25:06.626 --> 00:25:09.548
Darden said he could light up the entire course if he wanted us to.

00:25:09.548 --> 00:25:11.518
Yeah, back in the day.

00:25:13.805 --> 00:25:19.086
Yeah, I think if Wild Horse could get the word out that they have a night range, they would kill it.

00:25:19.086 --> 00:25:28.403
Oh yeah, they said they used to and that nobody knew it was open, because it's so dark and it's so far off the street nobody could see it.

00:25:30.537 --> 00:25:31.606
What did that last post say?

00:25:31.606 --> 00:25:33.721
The last comment you can transfer what?

00:25:35.234 --> 00:26:00.984
You can transfer $30,000 into your bank account and play shadow creek, yeah marriott points takes three hundred dollars off the shadow price record bonus so you can get the mario points I look at cliff finding ways, finding ways, cliff finds a lot of ways that's the points guy, I think he's, he's the point he's got a lot of points.

00:26:00.984 --> 00:26:05.641
He's got more well, yeah, I mean, if he started a youtube he'd probably have a lot of.

00:26:05.780 --> 00:26:08.155
he'd probably give me a lot of money if he just had a youtube.

00:26:08.155 --> 00:26:11.519
That's the only one I gotta check out.

00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:20.589
But but what I'm saying is is, from what happened tonight, any course in Vegas that can replicate that would prosper.

00:26:20.589 --> 00:26:31.644
That's all I'm saying, because there is a market that is unfulfilled in Las Vegas and a course in Vegas should capitalize on that opportunity.

00:26:31.644 --> 00:26:32.646
That's all I'm saying.

00:26:32.646 --> 00:26:37.198
I don't care where it is there's houses If there's where it is, there's houses if there's wherever it is.

00:26:37.198 --> 00:26:50.315
People want to play golf at night, especially during the summer, because it's too hot during the day you know we got cloud nine, but cloud nine doesn't fill the the void that you want.

00:26:50.955 --> 00:26:54.422
If somebody can figure it out, they would make.

00:26:54.422 --> 00:27:01.643
I mean, it might take a few years for them to recoup their investment, but it will happen, that's all.

00:27:01.663 --> 00:27:02.023
I'm saying.

00:27:02.023 --> 00:27:05.424
The question is though why hasn't it?

00:27:06.654 --> 00:27:08.722
Yeah, and Hesherhack says I'm shocked with the heat.

00:27:08.722 --> 00:27:11.280
Night golf isn't already a thing in Vegas?

00:27:12.785 --> 00:27:13.266
Phoenix too.

00:27:13.335 --> 00:27:14.859
All we have is a lit-up par 3.

00:27:15.501 --> 00:27:18.982
There's a couple lit up ranges at night in phoenix, but I don't.

00:27:18.982 --> 00:27:25.981
If I'm correct, I don't think there's a 18 hole course that's lit up grass and grass clippings

00:27:26.021 --> 00:27:38.838
yeah grass clippings, yeah, grass clippings is the first one and that opened last year okay, so it's relatively new yeah, so did las vegas golf center close clothes, or it's their sign says clothes for repairs.

00:27:38.959 --> 00:27:52.900
But I heard something about the land that they're on was purchased a couple different rumors are swirling uh, that it was part of the airport expansion and the airport now has the rights to the land.

00:27:52.900 --> 00:28:01.262
Other reports are that it's going under new management, the old owners have let it go and a new company is coming in to take it over.

00:28:01.262 --> 00:28:05.765
But I haven't got confirmation from any of that.

00:28:07.036 --> 00:28:08.199
Yeah, that's what I heard too, Matt.

00:28:08.199 --> 00:28:08.721
I heard the same thing.

00:28:08.721 --> 00:28:09.724
It's going to stay a golf course.

00:28:09.724 --> 00:28:11.480
It's just going to go through some rebranding.

00:28:12.143 --> 00:28:18.897
Yeah, okay, shout out, mike Lindecky, we go through some rebranding.

00:28:18.897 --> 00:28:20.303
Yeah, okay, shout out, mike lindeckey, we know who that is.

00:28:20.303 --> 00:28:21.828
But we've been saying this for years.

00:28:21.828 --> 00:28:22.612
Yeah, we've been saying this for years.

00:28:22.632 --> 00:28:24.396
It's it'd be so no-brainer for them no

00:28:24.416 --> 00:28:24.917
brainer?

00:28:25.660 --> 00:28:29.490
absolutely no brainer I think maybe the only.

00:28:29.509 --> 00:28:30.270
Thing that's geez.

00:28:30.270 --> 00:28:32.717
Shout out wisconsin cheese.

00:28:33.238 --> 00:28:42.686
Maybe the only thing preventing that from happening is the airport not wanting lights up there, because I can't imagine why they would not have at least had nine holes.

00:28:42.686 --> 00:28:48.405
Let's just do the nine on the inside, forget the outside.

00:28:48.405 --> 00:29:00.898
They would kill it, they would murder it, they would absolutely kill it, kill it.

00:29:00.898 --> 00:29:09.173
They could get that $ 250 out of town rate for nine holes all night long, yeah, all night, yeah, all night, all night, all night.

00:29:09.173 --> 00:29:17.146
Oh hey, look, got some uh youtube royalty dude the friends on the Verde in the house.

00:29:18.934 --> 00:29:20.480
Friends on the Verde.

00:29:22.204 --> 00:29:22.906
That's hilarious.

00:29:22.906 --> 00:29:37.912
Trey was out on Saturday and, yeah, did the three-hole Luxor loop, and we got a lot of video.

00:29:37.912 --> 00:29:38.553
Did the three hole Luxor loop?

00:29:38.553 --> 00:29:39.594
Um and uh, we got a lot of video.

00:29:39.594 --> 00:29:45.163
I've been sharing some of those stories and and reels on our YouTube page and on Instagram, so there's some good stuff out there.

00:29:45.163 --> 00:29:49.423
Uh, we'll, we'll chat about the pace of play and a little bit out there.

00:29:49.423 --> 00:30:00.423
But hey, while while uh, hesh is in here, let's let me bring this up and we'll have our you know ode to the hack for his.

00:30:00.423 --> 00:30:03.986
Make sure it's on the right thing.

00:30:06.818 --> 00:30:16.228
Do, do, do, do, do do do, do, do do, do, do do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

00:30:16.228 --> 00:30:16.413
There it is.

00:30:16.413 --> 00:30:19.821
You can see that last week we had him up to 104 and then all of a sudden it stopped.

00:30:19.821 --> 00:30:21.941
That's because this happened.

00:30:24.996 --> 00:30:26.402
Is he playing Pine Valley now?

00:30:26.402 --> 00:30:34.920
You've got to hook me up Virtual hole-in-one Virtual hole-in-one.

00:30:35.055 --> 00:30:35.932
To be continued.

00:30:35.932 --> 00:30:36.848
You've got the virtual hole-in-one, virtual hole-in-one, to be continued.

00:30:36.848 --> 00:30:41.398
So you know, you got the virtual, still got to get the real one.

00:30:42.082 --> 00:30:42.663
Job's not done.

00:30:42.663 --> 00:30:43.626
Looks like the Lujanac a little bit.

00:30:43.626 --> 00:30:46.217
Job's not done, Damn I didn't see that.

00:30:46.518 --> 00:30:47.400
Congrats.

00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:48.643
Congrats on the virtual.

00:30:49.605 --> 00:30:50.307
Yes, yes.

00:30:50.307 --> 00:31:00.381
So making his way to a real golf course soon, as soon as weather permits, so keep an eye on.

00:31:00.955 --> 00:31:02.782
I saw him playing in the snow the other day.

00:31:04.238 --> 00:31:10.233
So yeah, a little foot slippage, yeah Too funny.

00:31:10.253 --> 00:31:10.454
All right.

00:31:10.555 --> 00:31:15.281
So I'll let you guys know what I thought about the showdown.

00:31:15.281 --> 00:31:20.910
I think a lot of people expect these things to be an entertainment.

00:31:20.910 --> 00:31:25.756
You know they.

00:31:25.756 --> 00:31:29.586
They want the entertainment and unfortunately there's just not characters in the game Like there used to be.

00:31:29.586 --> 00:31:35.179
You know, payne Stewart was a great chatter and, and you know, john Daly and all these guys.

00:31:35.179 --> 00:31:37.286
It's just, that's just not the way it is anymore.

00:31:37.286 --> 00:31:40.174
These guys like to showcase their talents on the course.

00:31:40.174 --> 00:31:44.365
They're really not into the shucking and jiving and hamming it up.

00:31:44.365 --> 00:31:48.586
Tnt Charles Barkley he was good tonight.

00:31:50.477 --> 00:31:57.328
They didn't go totally off script and have some weird-ass person that nobody knew out there reporting on it.

00:31:57.328 --> 00:32:03.048
Bubba Watson, I thought, was wondering why he was there and holding a microphone.

00:32:03.048 --> 00:32:05.442
Like what am I doing?

00:32:05.442 --> 00:32:08.962
Why Colt Nose wasn't there is beyond me.

00:32:08.962 --> 00:32:20.337
That's a big miss, for I think the television aspects of it miss, for I think the television aspects of it.

00:32:20.357 --> 00:32:23.384
To Faraday, I think he was just trying to get in as many live tidbits as he could.

00:32:23.403 --> 00:32:37.856
Trevor Illman didn't really seem like he cared, but there was some really good golf being played on, you know, one of the more exclusive courses in the country, uh, as I was tweeting.

00:32:38.018 --> 00:32:50.756
Or on x, uh, going, you know doing posting as much as I could, seeing what a lot of people were talking about and how they they think that shadow somebody said a lot of empty calories was the word they used.

00:32:50.756 --> 00:32:52.259
That, you know it's.

00:32:52.259 --> 00:32:56.487
It's a lot of a lot of hype, but it's just basic golf which used that.

00:32:56.487 --> 00:33:03.807
You know it's it's a lot of a lot of hype, but it's just basic golf, which I don't know how you can say that If you've been on the golf course it's absolutely spectacular.

00:33:03.807 --> 00:33:13.545
Yeah, it's more of a traditional style, fazio, but you have to look at what they did and where they did it, and that is what makes shadow special.

00:33:13.545 --> 00:33:24.627
I really wish they could have taken a little bit more time during the down times instead of having dead air or bubble watson, you know talking for no reason.

00:33:24.627 --> 00:33:28.904
Show what actually took place at shadow creek, you know.

00:33:29.045 --> 00:33:41.182
Go back to some of the old footage show all the dirt that they moved and and show you know what it went from to what it is now and maybe have people go.

00:33:41.182 --> 00:33:43.288
Wow, you know some people do.

00:33:43.288 --> 00:33:53.359
I mean, you see a lot of people post the photos from 2000 where it's, you know, north las vegas, with nothing around it but this green patch that doesn't tell the story.

00:33:53.359 --> 00:34:03.516
You know, um, they could have done a steve win interview, they could have had a fazio interview, they could have had so many different ways to bring in you know they.

00:34:03.516 --> 00:34:06.107
All they did was hype up the conditions and how pure it was.

00:34:06.107 --> 00:34:12.467
Well, let's get the greenskeeper on there and you know the head superintendent, and let's let's talk to him and hey, what's it?

00:34:12.646 --> 00:34:15.302
like for you guys to maintain this.

00:34:23.315 --> 00:34:35.842
You know, I think that's a big, massive part of what's missing in golf television nowadays, like the aspect of what has been and what has been, if you will, where we have been and where we will be what has been.

00:34:35.842 --> 00:34:36.947
You know what I mean.

00:34:37.568 --> 00:34:37.728
Yeah.

00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:41.153
Sound like Kamala right now.

00:34:41.153 --> 00:34:42.681
That's what I was trying to do.

00:34:43.798 --> 00:34:45.585
You guys can catch it really quick.

00:34:45.585 --> 00:34:58.931
But what I'm saying is is like create the story, like tell the story of where we are now, like tell the story of where we are now, and you know, and I think, for these things, like they could really travel.

00:35:04.900 --> 00:35:07.706
If they really want to blow these up, like bring in I would.

00:35:07.706 --> 00:35:10.293
That's what I was trying to do, guys, if you know.

00:35:10.293 --> 00:35:22.400
But like, bring in the YouTube golfers, like for something like this, like I don't, I don't care to hear them, but if they're, if, if it really is trying to blow it up and trying to bring these guys in I don't know, mark.

00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:23.302
I disagree with that.

00:35:23.302 --> 00:35:26.699
I know a lot of people that were watching that have no idea about shadow creek.

00:35:26.699 --> 00:35:30.219
They just know that it's expensive and it's in vegas yeah, I.

00:35:31.362 --> 00:35:41.864
So for anybody that doesn't know about shadow creek, like the a lot of people that are watching to have no idea that was a flat piece of fucking desert.

00:35:41.864 --> 00:35:53.603
You know, and if you've ever been on property and you know the las vegas landscape and you've walked, that I mean the first time I was there I was like how the fuck did they do this?

00:35:53.603 --> 00:35:56.974
How the fuck did fazio build this hole?

00:35:56.974 --> 00:36:06.641
Because I mean, I hope that there was cameras on site when they were building it, because I would love to see that footage, because there's some uh, what is it?

00:36:06.902 --> 00:36:17.148
number one is it two, two, two dips way down, like you saw them walking up the hill after they hit the tee shots.

00:36:17.375 --> 00:36:25.452
You saw them walking up that hill, but they didn't show the descent and you really couldn't see the difference between the one green and that low point on two.

00:36:25.452 --> 00:36:27.827
It's insane, it's in fucking sane.

00:36:28.034 --> 00:36:29.380
It's in fucking sane.

00:36:29.380 --> 00:36:35.166
It was a flat desert and this thing goes down 50, 60 feet.

00:36:35.166 --> 00:36:40.577
It goes, it dips, like there is in front of the green.

00:36:40.577 --> 00:36:51.168
It goes down 50, 60 feet and if you know the las vegas landscape, like that was not there and what fazio did on, like that hole, specifically that's the one that sticks out to me and even, what is it?

00:36:51.168 --> 00:36:55.844
Uh, two, three, four, five, is that the one with the tree, the single tree?

00:36:55.844 --> 00:36:57.675
Yeah, I mean it's.

00:36:57.675 --> 00:36:59.418
It's absolutely incredible.

00:36:59.418 --> 00:37:02.144
I mean I know it's fabricated, the hell was that it?

00:37:03.067 --> 00:37:09.027
was the gong oh okay, the the golf was not there right like not.

00:37:09.027 --> 00:37:16.326
Like you know, band in the golf was kind of there like it's not saint andrews and the goats were out there fucking clipping the grass.

00:37:16.425 --> 00:37:20.076
But robbie said, without shadow it would have been off by the alternate shot.

00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:26.708
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know, but I would, but I agree with you I'm gonna close up, matt.

00:37:26.708 --> 00:37:27.516
I agree with you.

00:37:27.516 --> 00:37:44.224
I think they should go into archival footage and trying to create the story of what has taken place in that land, and because that's the shit I love, just that's some of the stuff that they could do in the downtime you know, it's not necessarily let's turn this into a 30 minute segment on how awesome fazio did.

00:37:44.224 --> 00:37:47.179
But no, I mean there's tell a story, that's all it is.

00:37:47.278 --> 00:37:56.346
Tell a fucking story and and you know, show the show the locker room and show you know some of the history of the place

00:37:57.197 --> 00:38:02.447
yeah, there's so many cool things that you show how many new eras they have in the pro shop.

00:38:02.447 --> 00:38:13.920
But I I enjoyed watching boris was there tonight yeah, he's listening, yeah he said it was very cool I uh because of the the Bryson's jacket.

00:38:16.403 --> 00:38:19.210
Um, oh yeah, I lost my train of thought.

00:38:19.210 --> 00:38:22.561
Sorry, oh four was jaw dropping.

00:38:22.581 --> 00:38:24.724
Yeah, it's so it's so good it's.

00:38:24.724 --> 00:38:26.728
I mean, it's just spectacular out there.

00:38:26.728 --> 00:38:32.222
So, but I, I, I risk, I like seeing the best players playing golf.

00:38:32.222 --> 00:38:41.884
You know, yes, uh, I really liked it because it was shadow creek, but I mean, if you know, this was done somewhere else.

00:38:41.884 --> 00:38:44.175
I mean they did it under the lights, the last one, but it was this.

00:38:44.175 --> 00:38:45.418
It was the gimmicky shit.

00:38:45.739 --> 00:38:51.489
I, I like seeing real golfers playing a real golf course.

00:38:51.489 --> 00:38:53.824
You know, with with some, you know bragging rights at least.

00:38:53.824 --> 00:38:55.833
You know, with with some you know bragging rights at least.

00:38:55.833 --> 00:39:02.782
You know at least now Rory and those guys can say, hey, we whooped their ass and you know, then tell it happens again.

00:39:02.782 --> 00:39:05.280
That's, that's the shit that gets to get talked.

00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:06.784
I, you know it's.

00:39:06.784 --> 00:39:10.963
It's hard to be have a TV product like this.

00:39:10.963 --> 00:39:14.023
When you have, you know, a small group playing one hole at a time, it's much easier.

00:39:14.023 --> 00:39:20.838
When you have, you know, a small group playing one hole at a time, it's much easier when you have, you know, 10 groups on the course and you can switch back and forth the different shots being taken place.

00:39:20.838 --> 00:39:33.702
So there's a lot of filler and you have to have a lot of filler and unfortunately, I don't think the people they had on the broadcast tonight were the right people to fill those spots, so they should have done it about it some other way but we'll see.

00:39:33.722 --> 00:39:43.860
We'll see, hire us, we'll be there we can talk about it we talked about how this was a flat piece of desert and how fazio killed it, you know it would have been awesome if they could have.

00:39:44.201 --> 00:39:46.847
You know hired us yeah, had some people.

00:39:46.847 --> 00:39:47.414
Yeah, that too.

00:39:47.414 --> 00:39:51.664
If they would have had some people to talk about the place a little bit more.

00:39:51.664 --> 00:39:58.423
I mean, we it's not like it's necessary, but just to add to the entertainment.

00:39:58.423 --> 00:40:03.577
I was there to watch the golf and it happened to be taking place at Shadow, so I was a little bit more intrigued.

00:40:03.577 --> 00:40:06.182
Which being crushed.

00:40:06.182 --> 00:40:30.708
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All right, you guys got all your Christmas shopping done.

00:40:50.981 --> 00:40:51.262
Nope.

00:40:54.286 --> 00:40:55.329
No Sort of.

00:40:57.465 --> 00:40:58.213
What are you waiting for?

00:40:58.213 --> 00:41:02.085
Joe Time, this guy.

00:41:02.085 --> 00:41:06.978
Are you a Christmas Eve shopper?

00:41:07.278 --> 00:41:15.548
No, I'm usually like way out, but you know, maybe put the crypto phone down for a couple of hours and go handle some business.

00:41:16.429 --> 00:41:21.784
No, it's not that it's kids work.

00:41:21.784 --> 00:41:32.141
I drop the kids off at daycare, I go to work, pick the kids up from daycare, feed them dinner, and it's like when do I go?

00:41:32.141 --> 00:41:42.527
Amazon man lifesaver I like, I like, I'm a, I'm a tactical, I'm a tactile guy.

00:41:42.527 --> 00:41:44.780
You know, I like to, I like to see it, I like that.

00:41:44.780 --> 00:41:47.130
Oh yeah, that works yeah, I was.

00:41:47.351 --> 00:41:49.856
Uh, I did some shopping the other day out and out in the real world.

00:41:49.856 --> 00:41:50.518
It was weird.

00:41:50.518 --> 00:41:55.326
It's been a while since I've done that I'm a real world kind of guy man.

00:41:55.326 --> 00:42:05.800
You know I'm a punk, if you will I just like the, uh, the added convenience of being able to have somebody drop that shit off at your house for you I, I get it.

00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:18.648
I I understand that, but you know scrambling on december 23rd to pick up gifts is a tradition unlike any other 100 100 my favorite lately is that the targetcom purchases.

00:42:18.688 --> 00:42:30.606
you just pull up to the parking lot and they just they're there, waiting there for you yeah, all the time kate does my favorite part about that is when you get home and you're like, oh, I didn't order this sweet.

00:42:30.967 --> 00:42:46.818
And then you're like, wait a minute, where's what I did order my whole thing is is like you have to know what you're trying to find online and if, if you go into the store you're able to like have a variety of things you can choose from.

00:42:47.400 --> 00:43:00.226
Otherwise, online you have to like zone in so here here's something that uh, as someone who is semi-retired, doesn't work much and I do all the grocery shopping for the house and all that stuff.

00:43:01.257 --> 00:43:03.585
You want to watch something that's hilarious.

00:43:03.585 --> 00:43:18.563
Go into an Albertsons, find the 16-year-old kid that's pulling all the food for the drive-up orders and just watch them, because they'll find out quickly that they have no idea what the hell they're doing.

00:43:18.563 --> 00:43:31.103
And they will pull up to a section to look up something and they'll look at the phone and they'll look at the car, the the wall where all the products are, and they'll look at the phone and then you just see them shrug their shoulders and grab something, throw it in and go.

00:43:31.103 --> 00:43:37.704
It's why we stopped doing the mobile pickups and just I'm.

00:43:37.704 --> 00:43:39.181
You know I'm tired of all the mistakes.

00:43:39.222 --> 00:43:42.677
I'll just go get it myself, but I mean, they're trying exactly with christmas presents.

00:43:42.677 --> 00:43:47.809
There you go, that's all you gotta say exactly so uh yeah, funny stuff.

00:43:48.070 --> 00:43:48.635
All right, uh.

00:43:48.635 --> 00:43:52.063
So two things uh, we're gonna get to to wrap up the show this week.

00:43:52.063 --> 00:44:00.541
Um, the first is, uh, we're gonna talk about, uh, pga Fantasy League with Beautiful Golf Courses and then we'll get into the slow play stuff.

00:44:00.541 --> 00:44:30.708
So if you guys have been following the show at all over the last couple months, you know that Beautiful Golf Courses does an annual charity auction for the Four Hadley Foundation where they reach out through their amazing network of contacts with all kinds of golf courses all across the country and, uh, you can basically bid on foursomes or a company threesomes at some pretty spectacular golf courses all across the country.

00:44:31.657 --> 00:44:33.208
Um, you know, we've known about it for a couple of years.

00:44:33.208 --> 00:44:47.864
We actually participate, participated in this year we're going to be going to Arizona in the springtime to talk out a couple that we're incredibly excited about and probably would not have gotten the opportunity to play there had it not been for BGC.

00:44:47.864 --> 00:45:04.318
So last year we did a podcast rendition of the PGA tour fantasy league where we reached out to a bunch of different golf podcasts and said, hey, want to do this with us.

00:45:04.318 --> 00:45:04.920
We're just going to.

00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:06.686
You know, pick no skin in the game.

00:45:06.686 --> 00:45:17.280
No, nothing, just bragging rights and, like the first five weeks, it was awesome and then nobody started, nobody played anymore and there was no skin in the game and, and you know, we get it.

00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:28.257
So I was thinking of a way to put skin in the game, and so I was thinking, oh, we'll just tell everybody 25 bucks they could play for a pot, um, and we'll open it up to our listeners and anybody.

00:45:28.257 --> 00:45:34.036
And uh, then the auction happened and I'm like, oh, I've got a really good idea.

00:45:34.036 --> 00:45:35.701
So I reached out to mike and I said, hey, what?

00:45:35.701 --> 00:45:35.880
What?

00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:36.503
If we do this?

00:45:36.503 --> 00:45:42.340
It's going to be a $50 entry fee for anybody that wants to get into this fantasy golf league.

00:45:42.340 --> 00:45:44.309
Um, you know, we're going to have to.

00:45:44.309 --> 00:45:46.434
It'll be an Instagram account or some.

00:45:46.434 --> 00:45:47.896
Some way we can verify who you are.

00:45:47.896 --> 00:45:49.739
So we know who this is going to.

00:45:49.739 --> 00:45:59.431
Um, you pay the entry fee, we'll give you the link to join the Fantasy League and, at the end of the season, the pot, the pot.

00:45:59.431 --> 00:46:03.186
So let's say we have, you know, 20 people sign up for it.

00:46:03.186 --> 00:46:05.101
50 bucks, $1,000.

00:46:05.101 --> 00:46:07.539
Is that right math?

00:46:07.539 --> 00:46:08.983
Math right Clark County math.

00:46:09.003 --> 00:46:18.630
So okay, so you know, $1,000 that the winners will be able to use in the auction.

00:46:18.630 --> 00:46:22.686
So that's how BGC is involved with this.

00:46:22.686 --> 00:46:57.204
So you basically would, whatever the pot is, however many people we sign up it could be $1,000, it could be $2,000, it could be $3,000, the more people we get, the more people we get you would basically have a three thousand dollar, two thousand dollar credit on the auction to bid for, um, uh, an outing and there are some pretty amazing outings on there, um, so yeah, absolutely, this is like what was what?

00:46:57.204 --> 00:47:03.659
Did we totally pay for everything, dan, it's, I mean uh, yeah, both rounds um.

00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:15.164
I think it was just about 15 yeah, so I mean, for that's four people for two days at two private courses in in payson, arizona.

00:47:15.164 --> 00:47:19.396
It's an amazing deal and and there's so many other ones that are better.

00:47:19.396 --> 00:47:33.751
So this is what I recommend get your your foursome, everybody, enter it and you've got a one in four chance of your group winning this and go play a sick-ass golf course for 50 bucks.

00:47:33.751 --> 00:47:37.545
It is an amazing opportunity.

00:47:37.545 --> 00:47:39.141
We're not keeping any of the money.

00:47:39.141 --> 00:47:41.463
I'm going to run it on the PGA Fantasy League.

00:47:41.463 --> 00:47:43.623
All the rules and everything will be posted on there.

00:47:43.896 --> 00:47:45.780
And if you lose, it's going to a good cause.

00:47:45.780 --> 00:47:47.726
Exactly, I'm going to be entering.

00:47:48.036 --> 00:47:57.501
I know these three guys on the screen with me are going to be entering because that gives us a one in four chance to go play an amazing golf course for $50.

00:47:57.501 --> 00:48:04.804
So and the more people that enter, the bigger the purse can be and you don't have to spend it all in one auction.

00:48:04.804 --> 00:48:06.831
The bigger the purse can be and you don't have to spend it all on one auction, you know you can find.

00:48:06.851 --> 00:48:07.514
You can get two or three.

00:48:07.914 --> 00:48:11.041
You can get four or five, depending on how many people they enter.

00:48:11.041 --> 00:48:14.621
It's true, mike said thank you so much.

00:48:14.621 --> 00:48:15.235
Love it, fellas.

00:48:15.235 --> 00:48:15.818
Awesome stuff.

00:48:15.818 --> 00:48:16.760
Count me in for the league.

00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:20.056
And he's got to run Long night in the hospital, so he's working night and day.

00:48:20.076 --> 00:48:25.224
Have a good night, so I'm going to post this on.

00:48:25.224 --> 00:48:29.250
I'll do a blog post on the breakfast ball so everybody can see it there.

00:48:29.250 --> 00:48:35.918
I'll post it in our stories and I'll put a link in the Instagram description for everybody.

00:48:35.918 --> 00:48:41.340
So, please, everybody, if it's, if you don't know about the auction, go check it out.

00:48:41.340 --> 00:48:48.043
Go follow BGC beautiful golf courses, and I think this could be something that we could really help them get over that hump.

00:48:48.043 --> 00:48:53.445
Uh, clearing the hundred thousand dollar donation because, uh, we really wanted that to happen this year.

00:48:53.485 --> 00:48:57.157
It's fell a little short so, uh, we're going to do everything we can to help them.

00:48:57.157 --> 00:49:00.885
So absolutely I'm excited about that.

00:49:01.105 --> 00:49:04.057
That I mean yeah one is going to keep your skin.

00:49:04.177 --> 00:49:07.998
It's going to keep you in the game, so people will play all season long.

00:49:07.998 --> 00:49:21.501
And then you imagine coming down to the last tournament where, holy shit, you know, there's a whatever amount of pot that we get to spend this on golf yeah, ah, so bucks yeah, 50 bucks.

00:49:21.501 --> 00:49:27.329
So, uh, thanks mike for allowing us to do that in the four hadley foundation.

00:49:27.329 --> 00:49:29.057
You know it's also good if?

00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:42.784
if nobody joins, then it's just us four competing against each other and we're gonna win yeah, so just so a nice 200 pot, yeah, yeah 200 dollars, 200 dollars.

00:49:43.204 --> 00:49:44.244
Yeah, $200.

00:49:44.244 --> 00:49:47.887
$200.

00:49:47.927 --> 00:49:50.871
Woo, no, we need 20 people we need 20 people, minimum.

00:49:50.871 --> 00:50:03.650
At least 40 people would be amazing and there's so many of our followers have huge followings, so many of the listeners have amazing contacts.

00:50:03.650 --> 00:50:20.175
Everybody needs to know about this and we need to get this up to a four or five thousand dollar pot and really give away or not give away award to one person, whoever wins an amazing time at some pretty amazing golf courses, because this what this does.

00:50:20.775 --> 00:50:30.989
What this does is this boosts the people who really want to play these courses, like the really nice, like Dismal River and what were some of the other ones.

00:50:30.989 --> 00:50:31.610
Joe, that were.

00:50:33.235 --> 00:50:34.860
Dismal Brooms Edge.

00:50:34.860 --> 00:50:36.565
Brooms Edge was on there.

00:50:37.376 --> 00:50:39.643
Yeah, there's a lot of fantastic golf courses, so many good ones.

00:50:40.476 --> 00:50:44.644
But a lot of those get bought up by corporate guys that are you know.

00:50:44.644 --> 00:50:46.208
Hey, I'm going to take these out.

00:50:46.208 --> 00:50:51.382
I got four grand, I can drop on this, no problem, you know, and just boom, it blows it out.

00:50:51.382 --> 00:50:55.483
This allows you to compete against those people, absolutely.

00:50:55.483 --> 00:50:57.927
Yeah, all right, all right.

00:50:57.927 --> 00:50:59.501
So stay tuned for that information.

00:50:59.501 --> 00:51:04.677
I'll get on that, because the season starts in a couple weeks, so it's going to be a hard push for everybody to get on this.

00:51:04.677 --> 00:51:06.199
So don't wait.

00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:18.007
If you have any questions or you want to get in on it, start sending me messages mysoccaldgolflife, mysoccaldgolflife, or on our CDP IG, because that's probably where I'm going to run most of it out of.

00:51:18.628 --> 00:51:19.088
Real quick.

00:51:19.088 --> 00:51:25.572
Did you see the Ireland auction, the six rounds or the five rounds, in Ireland?

00:51:25.592 --> 00:51:26.373
What did it end up?

00:51:26.773 --> 00:51:29.565
going for Like $1,500.

00:51:29.565 --> 00:51:34.789
Six rounds like five days in Ireland.

00:51:34.789 --> 00:51:35.231
That's insane.

00:51:37.139 --> 00:51:38.304
Sorry, go ahead.

00:51:38.304 --> 00:51:40.724
Yeah right, you met for $50.

00:51:40.724 --> 00:51:41.135
Can you imagine?

00:51:41.135 --> 00:51:42.219
That for $50?

00:51:42.219 --> 00:51:43.565
Yeah, that'd be insane.

00:51:43.565 --> 00:51:46.264
You could charge your friends $1,000.

00:51:47.695 --> 00:51:48.577
Your hero ships.

00:51:48.577 --> 00:51:49.561
Free your airfare.

00:51:49.561 --> 00:51:50.242
Yeah, there you go.

00:51:50.242 --> 00:51:51.286
Yeah, everything.

00:51:52.577 --> 00:51:57.518
So there's a lot of ways this could be beneficial for you, and we'll get it going.

00:51:57.958 --> 00:52:10.460
Yep, yep, yep, yep, all right, so we, dan, you weren't there so you don't know what was going on, but I'm sure you understand we had a group in front of us at Coyote.

00:52:10.460 --> 00:52:22.509
That was like the epitome of slow, and we said something to the marshal because it took us almost 240 to play the front, maybe 245.

00:52:22.509 --> 00:52:25.644
And at Coyote, coyote's a tough course, course.

00:52:25.644 --> 00:52:28.699
So if you're having a bad day I can see how it can take some time, uh.

00:52:28.699 --> 00:52:37.333
But the marshal said he talked to him a couple times and then we get to 10, we're on, we're in the 10 fairway, and you know I was following you guys in a cart.

00:52:37.333 --> 00:52:40.418
So I stopped and I chatted with them and I'm like what's going on ahead of them?

00:52:40.418 --> 00:52:42.521
And he's like, well, let me look.

00:52:42.521 --> 00:52:47.489
He's like there's a couple slow ones out there, but you know I only got two red flags and that's those guys.

00:52:47.489 --> 00:52:54.215
And I'm like, okay, cause you know we're, we're 10, almost 11 holes in and it's been three hours.

00:52:54.215 --> 00:52:55.420
This is ridiculous.

00:52:55.420 --> 00:52:57.661
He's like, yeah, I'll talk to him.

00:52:57.795 --> 00:53:03.422
So, probably the most proactive Marshall I've encountered in a long time.

00:53:03.422 --> 00:53:15.336
He was actively going up to these guys and saying let's move, let's move, let's go, let's go and they basically were like fuck you, no.

00:53:15.336 --> 00:53:18.121
And uh, on 16,.

00:53:18.121 --> 00:53:24.269
Uh, if anybody knows, coyote, 600 yard par five.

00:53:24.269 --> 00:53:30.257
Uh, the boys were playing the tips, tips, um.

00:53:30.257 --> 00:53:30.838
So they're in the fairway.

00:53:30.838 --> 00:53:33.342
The group in front of them is just off the green on the approach area.

00:53:33.342 --> 00:53:44.545
They're 260 yards away from that group, haven't hit a 210 yard shot off the tee the entire day and they're waiting for them.

00:53:44.545 --> 00:53:50.061
The marshal was next to them, talking to them, telling them to pick it up.

00:53:50.061 --> 00:53:58.505
He drove over to the cart path, came up to us and was telling us that he's talking to him and we go.

00:53:58.505 --> 00:54:01.574
Uh, well, they're still there and he was shocked.

00:54:01.574 --> 00:54:08.920
He's like what turned around, saw they had not moved from when he was talking to them and went back and talked to him again.

00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:12.606
So I mean, this was all day long it was.

00:54:12.606 --> 00:54:13.289
It was terrible.

00:54:13.815 --> 00:54:24.099
Uh, juju, I'm sure you heard it from trey, I mean just yeah, they sat there for like we were on that whole waiting for like 15 minutes oh my god, and they sat there.

00:54:24.099 --> 00:54:28.146
When the group ahead of them cleared the green, they were still sitting there.

00:54:28.206 --> 00:54:32.800
They weren't doing anything, they were just sitting in their carts and uh.

00:54:33.300 --> 00:54:39.777
So I was like I go, man, it would be awesome if they could just turn their carts off and let us play through.

00:54:39.777 --> 00:54:58.880
And then I was thinking I I'm like you know, with all the technology that we have now and golf cart GPSs and geofencing, you know how about the golf courses go, flash them a warning on the GPS, you are 20 minutes behind pace, you are slowing up.

00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:09.001
Golfers behind you Pick it up, or we're, you know, suspending your cart until the group behind you passes or until you know we get caught up?

00:55:09.001 --> 00:55:14.335
And uh, I know it, I know probably never happened.

00:55:14.335 --> 00:55:37.266
But what, what, what can golf courses do when you have a group that has been warned multiple, multiple, multiple times that they are playing slow and they need to pick it up, and they won't, what do you do?

00:55:40.117 --> 00:55:42.480
shut their fucking cards down yeah, I mean.

00:55:42.501 --> 00:55:46.585
Yeah, I mean there has to be, I mean it is.

00:55:46.585 --> 00:55:51.231
There's no punishment for this crime.

00:55:51.231 --> 00:55:51.675
It is.

00:55:51.675 --> 00:55:55.365
I mean it is a crime because you are basically stealing time from the people behind you.

00:55:55.365 --> 00:56:07.056
You know there is a pace that they want you to play at and when you're not playing at that pace and you have been warned you are now stealing the time from the people behind you that's the thing, man.

00:56:07.076 --> 00:56:10.403
I had things to do right like oh, you were ready to leave.

00:56:10.824 --> 00:56:11.527
Yeah, I was about.

00:56:11.527 --> 00:56:12.615
No one wanted you to leave?

00:56:12.956 --> 00:56:26.271
yeah, of course, and if I have to leave, then I have to like uh, somebody has to drive me to the, you know, and then it slows the other people down you know it's just like you just gotta be fucking respectful man.

00:56:26.695 --> 00:56:28.762
Like, and people don't.

00:56:28.762 --> 00:56:32.431
People don't see that like you know they're in their own world.

00:56:32.431 --> 00:56:36.021
I get it right, it might be your one time a month.

00:56:36.021 --> 00:56:39.047
It gets plague off, but just fucking plague off.

00:56:39.047 --> 00:56:42.681
Like if you lose your ball, just fucking drop a ball.

00:56:42.681 --> 00:56:44.666
Like I don't even keep score.

00:56:44.666 --> 00:56:56.786
Like who gives a fuck, dude, at the end of the day, and you're probably betting a dollar, maybe five dollars on a hole, maybe I mean probably not five dollars maybe a dollar on a hole.

00:56:56.786 --> 00:56:58.813
Like who gives a fuck about the dollar?

00:56:58.813 --> 00:56:59.375
Dude, chill.

00:56:59.715 --> 00:57:07.949
Like you just fucking play the game, dude have fun, they fun, they were dropping ball marks on a foot one and a half foot two foot putt.

00:57:07.949 --> 00:57:17.608
And they were putting their putter covers on the opposite side from the cart.

00:57:17.608 --> 00:57:21.974
Like why are you dropping your shit over here when it's all the way to the green?

00:57:22.135 --> 00:57:36.327
One thing that I knew we were in trouble on the on the third hole, the par three, we pull up to the green or we pull up to the t-box and there's two guys, there's four guys, standing on the green one guy's chipping just off the green and the other guy's on the green.

00:57:36.327 --> 00:57:38.438
They both hit putts.

00:57:38.438 --> 00:57:50.960
And then the other two guys walk almost to the cart path where their balls were and they hit their pitch shots and I was like what the fuck were you doing, you know?

00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:54.507
And one guy had a little pitch shot over the bunker.

00:57:54.507 --> 00:57:58.242
So I'm like I hope he clears the bunker, you know.

00:57:58.242 --> 00:58:01.027
And and a couple times I rolled up.

00:58:01.027 --> 00:58:05.063
Because I rolled up, I was out there, uh, shooting videos and taking pictures.

00:58:05.063 --> 00:58:06.947
Well, not taking pictures, shooting video.

00:58:06.947 --> 00:58:12.903
I get up to the green a couple times and, bill, that was a four putt.

00:58:12.903 --> 00:58:18.121
Right, you guys are having us wait for four putts.

00:58:19.237 --> 00:58:19.760
It's like oh my god.

00:58:22.838 --> 00:58:30.402
You can still have fun and you can still order drinks from the cart girl, and or you can still do all that and play very fast.

00:58:30.402 --> 00:58:37.108
It's just, I mean, a lot of people don't know cart etiquette like they wait for you know?

00:58:37.108 --> 00:58:43.550
Yeah, they don't even get a yardage while their other person's hitting or they're like even with each other in the fairway.

00:58:43.550 --> 00:58:46.719
They could park in between them and each walk your own direction.

00:58:47.081 --> 00:58:48.105
They don't do that it's it's.

00:58:48.125 --> 00:58:52.159
You wait till everyone hits and then you drive to your ball on 13.

00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:57.996
Like you know, like we had, I had my ball, like I was like drop me, here I'm gonna grab three clubs.

00:58:57.996 --> 00:59:08.708
Take the cart, I'll grab my range finder and you go look for yours and people just like totally don't even think about doing that yeah, the on 13 they're.

00:59:08.827 --> 00:59:10.548
They're in the fairway.

00:59:10.548 --> 00:59:13.777
We see we see two guys and there's two carts, but there's only two guys.

00:59:13.777 --> 00:59:15.222
We're like what the hell?

00:59:15.222 --> 00:59:22.884
And then we see that we catch this like glimmer of a golf shaft, like 60 yards left of the fairway, and we're like, is that that?

00:59:22.884 --> 00:59:24.565
Yep, that was them, that was them.

00:59:24.565 --> 00:59:30.619
And so they come over, drop the ball, get their yardage topped it.

00:59:30.619 --> 00:59:34.125
It went maybe 15, 20 yards, maybe.

00:59:34.125 --> 00:59:41.199
Walk over, put their club in the bag, hop in the car, drive up to that ball, get out, get a club.

00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:45.405
And it was like, oh my, all day long, all day long it was.

00:59:45.405 --> 00:59:46.606
It was bad.

00:59:46.606 --> 00:59:50.378
So, uh, you know, I, I did it in chippity chat.

00:59:50.378 --> 00:59:51.119
What do you guys think?

00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:59.077
What would, what would you do if you pulled up at a golf course and they said hey, just to let you know, we have a rule you get behind pace, you're going to get a warning.

00:59:59.077 --> 01:00:04.036
If, after the warning, you don't pick it up, we're going to suspend your golf cart until the group behind you passes.

01:00:05.179 --> 01:00:14.302
I mean, I think the only thing you can do is if is if you make them sign a waiver stating that when they check in, because other than that, how are you going to police?

01:00:14.302 --> 01:00:19.327
You don't, you don't have any kind of legal recourse to police, anything like that, right how do you not have legal recourse?

01:00:19.387 --> 01:00:20.657
it's your golf course, you are.

01:00:20.657 --> 01:00:25.726
I'm just being argumentative here, you paid to come play our place.

01:00:26.527 --> 01:00:33.893
Right, which is true, Like on the thing where it's like if I fall behind, I agree that you know I'm going to let others pass, kind of thing.

01:00:33.932 --> 01:00:38.045
Yeah, yeah, because honestly, like, I just feel like golf courses.

01:00:38.275 --> 01:00:40.461
People won't read it anyway, they won't read it.

01:00:40.461 --> 01:00:43.400
Yeah, they just they won't, they won't give a shit.

01:00:43.420 --> 01:00:46.898
A lot of people will be like, fuck that, I paid you know a hundred, some odd dollars to do this.

01:00:46.898 --> 01:00:48.182
I'm gonna take my time.

01:00:48.182 --> 01:00:49.938
You know, a lot of a lot of guys have that mentality.

01:00:49.938 --> 01:00:54.697
They don't give a fuck about playing fast, they want to hit all 112 of their shots and watch them.

01:00:54.697 --> 01:01:03.458
Um, I think it's just uh, you know, people just gotta get better trained.

01:01:03.458 --> 01:01:06.123
I guess, for lack of a for for a better term.

01:01:06.123 --> 01:01:25.487
But yeah, if you're a slow golfer, I mean, like you know, you either got to work on getting better or just fucking pick up, or you got to sign a waiver stating I want, you know, we're looking at trying to play every hole at you know 12 minutes or 15 minutes, a hole which puts us at you know four and a half hour round.

01:01:25.588 --> 01:01:29.043
And if you violate that repeatedly after warnings and you're fucking gone.

01:01:29.043 --> 01:01:30.327
But you can't really do that.

01:01:30.327 --> 01:01:31.780
I don't think you can really all right.

01:01:32.121 --> 01:01:33.949
So, mark, let me just need to play by that.

01:01:33.949 --> 01:01:35.878
Yeah, yeah let me clarify that.

01:01:35.918 --> 01:01:55.900
But people need to play by the double or triple bogey rule like yeah, absolutely, yeah, so originally I I'm like, uh, I thought, uh, until Pace picks up and you're not playing, you're parked until two, three groups get through and you got to pick it up, otherwise we're parking you again.

01:01:55.900 --> 01:02:07.784
Yeah, it's going to help the people right behind them, but hopefully they realize it and they get going and it would help Because, yeah, everybody behind them is already being affected anyways.

01:02:07.784 --> 01:02:12.485
You know, everybody behind us was affected by these people in front of us.

01:02:14.155 --> 01:02:15.277
Robbie's, mark Robbie's.

01:02:15.277 --> 01:02:18.967
Yep, yeah, marshall, absolutely right, robbie.

01:02:18.967 --> 01:02:27.467
And the sad thing is, I have nothing against old people, but like all they do is hire like 80 year old-old fucking people to go drive a golf cart around a golf course.

01:02:27.467 --> 01:02:28.699
You know they're not going to be.

01:02:28.699 --> 01:02:30.760
You know they're not confrontational at all.

01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:34.400
They don't give two shit, they're just trying not to die, they're just fucking driving around.

01:02:34.875 --> 01:02:36.081
Or they double down on that.

01:02:36.081 --> 01:02:48.398
Yeah, the people that are really slow they don't care what had gave two shits with this.

01:02:48.398 --> 01:02:49.101
And, like I said, above and beyond.

01:02:49.121 --> 01:02:49.963
This marshal was above and beyond awesome.

01:02:49.963 --> 01:02:50.445
He was awesome.

01:02:50.445 --> 01:02:52.550
But he's like what can I do?

01:02:52.550 --> 01:02:54.675
I mean, you know, and I'm gonna fight them.

01:02:54.797 --> 01:03:03.721
I'm 80 years old, you know kind of situation I'd get one of them, little ball picker uppers on the end of the grips, you know, and just go out and pick up all their balls.

01:03:03.721 --> 01:03:04.963
They're on the next team.

01:03:04.983 --> 01:03:11.086
You had like, what if you had like an armed marshal out there, got like a nine pick, it's a lock on this thing.

01:03:11.086 --> 01:03:12.974
Say, hey guys, it's your final warning.

01:03:13.356 --> 01:03:34.523
You don't pick it up I'm gonna shoot you in the leg what's up I mean the thing I I understand everybody's trying to, like you know, grind for scores and they're playing against their friends and all that shit, but like just, I mean really, the end of the day it's like double, triple, boogie max.

01:03:34.523 --> 01:03:44.463
Like okay, if, if, if you're not getting in the green, in like whatever, like one or two over, drop your ball in the green.

01:03:44.463 --> 01:03:49.902
Okay, you're not, you're not shooting your career best you know, but you're.

01:03:49.902 --> 01:03:51.726
You have to be considerate guys are.

01:03:51.746 --> 01:03:58.954
Most of these guys are taking a double anyways yeah, and you have to be considerate as a six the people behind you.

01:03:58.994 --> 01:04:01.820
Dude, like you know, you have somewhere to go.

01:04:01.820 --> 01:04:03.282
I also have somewhere to go.

01:04:03.282 --> 01:04:10.164
You know, I booked this tea time with the thought in my mind that I'd be out here for like five hours tops, you know.

01:04:10.164 --> 01:04:12.536
And yeah, I have things to do.

01:04:12.536 --> 01:04:23.887
I have to go get christmas presents, I have to go pick up the kids, or whatever the case may be, like you're not sure, I drove an hour to be out here I got an hour drive home.

01:04:23.907 --> 01:04:26.755
I'm gonna have road rage because of you fucks.

01:04:27.338 --> 01:04:30.405
And that's not counting if I get a flat tire on the way and I have to give.

01:04:30.405 --> 01:04:37.514
Have some fucking dude pick me up and take me to a yontera place, like bob had to happen one time, you know.

01:04:37.514 --> 01:04:44.777
So it's like there's other factors like just think about the people behind you, be considerate, like that's, that's the whole.

01:04:44.797 --> 01:04:46.239
This is golf, you know.

01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:53.759
Be considerate to the people behind you, okay, and that goes for raking bunkers, filling your divots.

01:04:53.759 --> 01:04:56.186
Oh, you just got it, you know.

01:04:56.186 --> 01:05:01.318
You know, I don't want to end up in your footprint print in a fucking bunker.

01:05:01.318 --> 01:05:16.679
Rake the bunker, it doesn't take that long yep had another video tray raking bunkers exactly, and there was so many bunkers out there that had just oh my god place and coyote is notorious for that.

01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:20.306
Especially on number 10 number 10, some of those bunkers.

01:05:20.445 --> 01:05:21.469
Right, it's fucking.

01:05:21.469 --> 01:05:24.246
You build sandcastles and some of those things there's never, never right.

01:05:24.427 --> 01:05:25.411
It's never right.

01:05:25.411 --> 01:05:28.603
That greenside bunker to the right on number 10, never fucking right.

01:05:28.603 --> 01:05:29.115
You know why.

01:05:29.135 --> 01:05:30.936
Because most of the time people go in there they can't get out of it.

01:05:30.936 --> 01:05:32.320
They're like fuck this bunker.

01:05:33.063 --> 01:05:33.505
Yeah, exactly.

01:05:34.577 --> 01:05:35.561
Kick the rake in the desert.

01:05:37.436 --> 01:05:38.442
Okay, take a second.

01:05:39.155 --> 01:05:43.300
So pause and think about the people behind you that are gonna end up there.

01:05:43.820 --> 01:05:46.025
Nobody does, nobody does, nobody has any consideration.

01:05:46.045 --> 01:05:57.516
I don't give a fuck yeah, just think about if you have behind you, it's all what if you go to the fishing like a fishing license, but for golf and all you have to certain courses like based on difficulty.

01:05:57.617 --> 01:06:03.248
It's a classification that would be amazing, then, then, we're getting the.

01:06:03.248 --> 01:06:08.835
It's already an elitist sport and they're just I know, yeah, weeding people out for sure

01:06:12.362 --> 01:06:18.079
this is an a-level course, we only allow a-level players no, not even that level days.

01:06:18.219 --> 01:06:29.702
Uh, your money is whatever I think it's interesting though, like that whole concept, like the, the whole golfer license, you know, like yeah that's, you have to have a license to hunt.

01:06:29.702 --> 01:06:32.818
You have to have to, and that's just going out there and shooting things.

01:06:32.978 --> 01:06:35.224
Germany, germany, gotta have a golf license.

01:06:36.065 --> 01:06:36.487
I know I mean.

01:06:36.487 --> 01:06:39.322
It's not even about, like, keeping people out of courses.

01:06:39.442 --> 01:06:46.423
It's about educating them and making sure that they know like yeah, that's the thing, here's how you can play fast, or here's how you can, you know?

01:06:46.423 --> 01:06:52.054
And it's, it's as bad as somebody seeing somebody with iron covers.

01:06:52.054 --> 01:06:56.766
Everybody loses their mind and goes oh, what a loser if you get called a slow player.

01:06:56.766 --> 01:07:01.505
That fucking hurts and some people don't know how to react to it.

01:07:01.505 --> 01:07:08.938
So uh and, and a lot of people that get told hey, you're slow, no, I'm not, no, I'm not, fuck you, it's such an evil.

01:07:08.958 --> 01:07:09.481
That's the thing.

01:07:09.481 --> 01:07:23.146
We that's the thing we played with glenn and we were fucking on pace and everybody that's played with glenn knows that he's slow the way you play with glenn is you keep playing while he's talking, exactly?

01:07:23.186 --> 01:07:24.449
That's the only way to play at the.

01:07:24.469 --> 01:07:26.295
Glen, because he's not going to stop talking.

01:07:26.414 --> 01:07:29.405
And you can't allow Glen to be the last putter.

01:07:29.405 --> 01:07:31.782
He cannot be the person finishing the hole.

01:07:32.335 --> 01:07:34.438
Or you just everybody starts walking off the green.

01:07:34.438 --> 01:07:40.389
Yeah that's Bless his heart yeah.

01:07:42.757 --> 01:07:44.643
Yeah, people don't even listen to T recommendations.

01:07:44.643 --> 01:07:47.242
Yeah, no, yeah, I know.

01:07:47.242 --> 01:07:55.402
No, the starter, the guy that was starting us, was the marshal that was on the course afterwards and he's like you know, you guys are playing from the tips, right.

01:07:55.402 --> 01:07:58.239
And he's like, yep, all right, I'm going to need to see this.

01:07:58.239 --> 01:07:58.773
Then Trey hits.

01:07:58.773 --> 01:07:59.407
He's like, all right, you guys are good.

01:07:59.407 --> 01:08:02.385
Yeah, exactly, you're funny.

01:08:02.385 --> 01:08:04.949
Yeah, exactly you're funny.

01:08:04.949 --> 01:08:06.742
So alright so that's.

01:08:06.742 --> 01:08:12.501
That's another DDP, slow play rant yeah.

01:08:13.197 --> 01:08:15.981
I don't know what we're gonna do I don't know.

01:08:17.684 --> 01:08:19.658
Oh yes, I did watch the game that was good.

01:08:19.979 --> 01:08:21.002
That was really good, mark.

01:08:21.002 --> 01:08:21.983
I enjoyed that.

01:08:21.983 --> 01:08:22.829
It was really good.

01:08:22.850 --> 01:08:35.945
I hope they keep doing if you were paying attention, you saw that Jake Knapp knapp had a lagp shaft in his putter yes, he did just saying I think some of those duos, too, are like pretty entertaining.

01:08:36.886 --> 01:08:49.039
I think we need to see more of that, honestly I would love to see one in the middle of the season, you know, and actually instead of this late in the year where everybody's checked out because I'm, I, you know the golf nuts.

01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:53.628
We all watch it, of course, but yeah, that was fun, that was fun to watch.

01:08:53.628 --> 01:08:56.623
I like how they had the alternate where they could change the balls.

01:08:56.623 --> 01:09:00.246
That was that was smart smart stuff.

01:09:02.421 --> 01:09:06.064
All right, that that'll do it for episode 305.

01:09:06.064 --> 01:09:08.701
I don't know if we're going to be back this year.

01:09:08.701 --> 01:09:10.265
We'll see.

01:09:10.265 --> 01:09:11.146
We'll see what's going on.

01:09:11.146 --> 01:09:14.185
Next week is Christmas Eve.

01:09:14.185 --> 01:09:20.867
We got New Year's Eve the following week, so we may mix it up and do it another night just to keep the streak going.

01:09:20.867 --> 01:09:24.645
But you know streaks they got to end sometimes.

01:09:24.645 --> 01:09:26.501
So we'll see.

01:09:26.501 --> 01:09:29.659
We'll chat with the fellas here, see if we can figure it all out.

01:09:29.659 --> 01:09:37.863
But uh, in case we don't come back until next year, I just want to say thank you to you guys for doing this.

01:09:38.024 --> 01:09:39.268
It's been an awesome year for us.

01:09:39.268 --> 01:09:45.368
A lot of changes, a lot of things going on, but I think we're hitting our hitting our groove right now.

01:09:45.368 --> 01:09:49.563
Um, we're getting out, we're having some fun, people are like.

01:09:49.563 --> 01:09:54.158
Tuning in the, the interactions with everybody has been fantastic.

01:09:54.158 --> 01:09:56.645
Uh, want more of that every week.

01:09:56.645 --> 01:10:01.362
So thank you so much to all the listeners and everybody that tunes in and participates each week.

01:10:01.362 --> 01:10:06.336
It's really easy to just wait until wednesday when it comes out and listen as you're driving around.

01:10:06.336 --> 01:10:13.358
Takes a little bit of passion and desire to sit here and watch our ugly mugs and and be a keyboard warrior.

01:10:13.358 --> 01:10:15.221
So thank you all for that.

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Uh, we'll be back with uh more shit next year.

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Stay tuned for information on the bgc cdp League.

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That will be absolutely spectacular.

01:10:26.269 --> 01:10:28.002
So I can't wait for you all to get into that.

01:10:28.002 --> 01:10:33.161
And if we do come back, I'll announce it before the end of the year if we're going to have another show.

01:10:33.161 --> 01:10:37.105
So, with all that being said, joe, you want to close it out?

01:10:38.615 --> 01:10:45.706
Yeah, if we don't see you this year, I hope you have a great Christmas and a great New Year.

01:10:45.706 --> 01:10:53.966
Hopefully you don't get that fucking toilet putter thing for Christmas.

01:10:55.515 --> 01:10:56.180
Potty putter.

01:10:57.215 --> 01:10:58.622
Joe's got six in his garage.

01:10:59.355 --> 01:11:00.359
I have quite a few.

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If you do, just appreciate it with a smile, be considerate of those that gift you something and be considerate of those behind you.

01:11:09.827 --> 01:11:24.106
It is the end of the year and we appreciate everybody listening, everybody that interacts with us every single week, share the show, and we appreciate you listening Every single.

01:11:24.106 --> 01:11:28.918
This guy's doing the taylor swift thing, where they fucking do this shit.

01:11:29.420 --> 01:11:35.117
I don't know don't, don't yeah, don't be a geek guy, you know, that's all I'm gonna say.

01:11:35.117 --> 01:11:37.282
And uh, we'll see you.

01:11:37.282 --> 01:11:43.636
Maybe we'll do something before next year but if we don't, we'll see you next year.

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Until then later.

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