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You know, cj, that's a great question and one I ponder a lot on, not from the standpoint of like what did I do, but it's like what was created from that.
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You know, there's one gentleman I've assisted all three of his sons to go to college.
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Welcome to the CJ Money Way Show, and I'm with your host, cj Money Way.
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What's up, my good people?
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Welcome to the CJ Money Way Show.
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Today I have a special guest, motivational speaker, ministry leader, coach, author and founder of that Guy Media Group.
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Hey, welcome to the show, ahmad.
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Thank you, cj, for having me on man.
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Hey, man, I appreciate you coming on, man, I appreciate you reaching out and everything, man, I appreciate you coming on, man, I appreciate you reaching out and everything, man.
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So you know, I think that you bring a lot to the table as far as your knowledge and the things that you do, man, and the programs that you teach, so let's get into it, man.
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So before we start, though, tell us about you know, you did a study about the performance of the habits of athletes, man, so tell us about that a little bit.
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You know, man, that was an interesting time in my life.
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That was my first book, that was what created Awaken the Ball Within the book poster.
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You see behind me.
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I've been in the sports industry, sports writing industry, for a while, been in the sports industry, sports writing industry for a while and then, obviously, when I came out of college, I did some spot work for a newspaper out in Katy Texas so that's basically Northwest Houston area and then I just was really, really intrigued with the recruiting side of things, and so as I was doing that, I'm watching a lot of games, I'm seeing a lot of guys, a lot of great athletes.
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This would have been around the time when I did this.
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This would have been probably when Andrew Luck was a sophomore.
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Russell.
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Shepard was around that same age as well, michael.
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Thomas, there was a lot of solid athletes who came out around that time and those are, you know, two of a couple of the many guys I've spoken with about this.
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And CJ, really, aw, in the bottle within was was written out of a tragedy, um, around that time, um, I was going uh, that was around the time when, when I had uh, lost my father, um, and so I kind of went through a little bit of a meltdown during that time and what ended up happening is is that I realized that the way I was doing things was no longer going to work, and so obviously, you know, I gave my life to Christ during that time as a prodigal, I hired a mentor and I remembered I got this newfound spiritual and personal development side to me.
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But I'm also a jock who likes to write, so it's like I was trying to find a way to merge the two and so, awakening the Baller Within was kind of the kind of the baby that was birthed out of that going around trying to find out mentally what separates these guys who are balling out and the guys who are not getting those same results.
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I didn't just want to know that they're stronger, bigger, faster, which a lot of them were, but many of them weren't.
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It was about the mindset, it was the mentality, it was the winning drive.
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They had to be able to do things, and so awakening the ball within is a compilation of those over 100 interviews I did with high performing athletes, uh, who had already left high school and went on to college.
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So I got the best of both worlds while they were doing it.
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And so it was.
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It was an interesting study and we came away with a lot of great things.
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That ended up being where I use sports as a metaphor.
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I wrote it in quarters, you know, first quarter, second quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter, and so it was written in a way that's sports-related.
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But here's the deal when parents would buy the books for their kids, they realized the book's not really about sports at all.
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It's about a mentality, because I had people call me saying hey, man, I can be a better realtor because of this, and I can be a better teacher because of this.
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I can be a better policeman because of this.
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Yeah, sports was just a metaphor.
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Sports is the way in, but we're talking about a mindset, because what, remember?
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We're talking about the success principles to help them on the field.
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But you got to understand, cj, most of those guys I interviewed and I keep in touch with a few of them here and there, man, most of them, oh, but I think two of them are still playing football the rest of them are successful and I mean like successful in all areas of life.
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They're great fathers One of my guys just had his third kid right they're running businesses, they're professional men, they're engineers, they're actors, they're entrepreneurs.
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They're doing major things.
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So what that shows is the success they had on the field is now being mirrored in their professional lives off the field.
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And that was what that book was written about to make sure to understand that the mindset you have is what creates the world around you.
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And of course, now you know and there was some faith-based things written in that book as well, but now obviously, I'm much deeper into my faith now than I was then, so it could even go deeper than that.
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Once you have the faith and the mindset and then the works that go along with it, man, we're doing some great and amazing things with that.
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Yeah, you know I understand what you're saying too about the faith act, because, as we talked about or we went through in text, I had a similar situation myself.
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You know, in 2015, november 15th, I published my first book and, man, exactly a week later, november 22nd, my father passed away.
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And so, you know, like the joy that you have one minute to you know what I'm saying accomplish something that you, you know, wanted to do, that you set out to do, and for something like that to happen, like you said, you know, I kind of went through a little thing where it wasn't.
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It wasn't as fulfilling, you know, but, as you say too, I give you a title here and there, but once you open it up, man, there's so much more because, uh, it's, like you say, the mindset.
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You know, I want you to see the things of God and the things that you know, because it was scripture-based too.
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And you know, like you just said, as I've gotten older and I've progressed more, my thought process in the world is even deeper.
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So that's why, later on next year or sometime next year, I'm coming out with a book called the Issues of Life.
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But so, you know, I connect with you on that.
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I understand what you said about that on that level.
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So tell us, man, what is the feeling, what is the feeling like when you would help so many people you know by funding over like six million dollars in scholarship money, man?
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So, like, what is that feeling like?
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To know that you're making an impact in other people's lives?
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That's a great question and one I ponder a lot on, not from the standpoint of like what did I do, but it's like what was created from that.
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You know, I, I there's one gentleman.
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I've assisted all three of his sons to go to college and they're all three successful, right.
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None of them made it to the nfl, but that didn't matter.
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The bottom line was is that they were able to send their kid off to school and and all that.
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So when I look back on it, man it's, and maybe I didn't realize what I was doing and the lord was using me even then in ways I didn't even know, because, because I was building a bridge to the next generation.
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I was doing it because it just was the right bridge to the next generation.
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I was doing it because it just was the right thing to do help a young man get an opportunity to play some ball, get him an education it's paid for.
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But what in actuality is is that you build a couple more branches on the family tree to be able to pass along not only wealth but knowledge.
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Because I've been sharing this a little bit recently and and now I'm a little bit more open with it.
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But one of my goals is is to duplicate myself 100 times in my life, to create someone with the same servant mindset of me and, in the servant leadership right, to go out and just and do things and serve others in a way to where this is not about me at all.
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This is.
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This is about man.
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I'm just.
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I'm someone who just like to see people win.
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I look at my young people and I'm just like you know what your leader is going to be ultimately successful.
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I'm successful, like you know what your leader is going to be ultimately successful.
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And I'm successful right now and I want you all to make me look like small peanuts to the success that you all can can accomplish when you get my age and even sooner.
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Right, you know I'm teaching.
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I'm teaching some of my youngsters right now Like, hey, stack aside this amount of money, go ahead and start putting your money into this.
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Go ahead and start doing these types of actions or whatever.
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I figured that out when I was 35, 37 years old.
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I'm sharing that with a 14-year-old now.
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Right, I'm trying to get you games.
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So when I look back and I see that number, that number is just like man.
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What if?
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And I don't like what if?
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But for the sake of this conversation, let's go what if?
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What if I would have accepted the calling earlier, that $6 million would have been $20 million?
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Could I have done $12, $15, $20 million in helping young men get scholarships?
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But I don't want to live in the past in that way.
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But I do want to look at that, as you just brought that back up, as a marker to say, ok, I have a benchmark of what I did at a time when I was in that place.
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Now, can I reach 10 young men in the same way to do that work in even greater works?
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As our Lord told us, the greater works you will do, even greater than what I've done.
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And so I want to be able to follow that example and be able to do that and be able to produce even more than that, even at my age now you know, and I think that you will, man, like you said, you know, as we talked earlier, it's all about the mindset, and that's one of my biggest components too, because I didn't really learn about certain things until I was 37, 38, 38, you know, and I wasted a lot of years, you know.
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And so, like you say too, so my thing, as we talked earlier, is about man, I want to help.
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I want to help somebody younger than me, or even somebody that was at that age.
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You don't have to go through what I endured.
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You know what I'm saying.
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Like I said, I'm trying to give you some game for free right now.
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You don't have to endure that, man.
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It's a much better way.
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And if you take that path right now, man, you will see, you know, and so I definitely use it with my sons.
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You know, I got a son.
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He's 27.
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My youngest is 13.
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So I really try to put that on them, man, because y'all don't have to go through what daddy went through, man, y'all can have a much smoother ride in life.
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But yeah, man, I think you're going to accomplish the 6,000.
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Like you said, that was a benchmark, man.
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You're going to soar.
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Man, it's going to go much higher than that.
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Just keep doing what you're doing, bro.
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You know a.
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You know a lot of us.
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We think that we know sports.
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You know we talked about I play ball and this, and that we think we know sports.
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Give us some insights of a college locker room which a lot of us has never been in a college locker room.
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What is that atmosphere like and what is it?
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What does a real sports analyst?
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What's the, the intel of a real sports analyst and the preparation that you have to go the.
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The locker room.
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Uh, I played.
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I played division one ball for just under two years, um, and it was, it was.
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It was a great experience, you know, being in there with a lot of guys, because you have to realize that like you're in a step ahead from being in high school.
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Like everyone gets a shot at high school for the most part, like no one really gets cut, for the most part there's a team for you somewhere to get in and so knowing that you get to college, it's like okay, at least these dudes was like a step above 80% of the guys they went to high school with.
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This is pulling some cream, this is finding the diamond right here and coming on in and playing on this end.
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The locker room is not that much different than a high school locker room.
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It's just people have a little bit more confidence in who they are and they let it be known.
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Uh, you know, obviously it goes by your leadership.
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I think the locker room we had was was pretty cohesive.
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Uh, when I was at stephen f austin state university and good old old town, nacogdoches, texas, um, and you know, we won conference and it was, it was good times there.
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I think it's uh, it's not for the weak minded, I can tell you that for sure.
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If you're sensitive like hey man, I don't, I don't know what to tell you because I mean, and to be fair, you've got to remember I was at Stephen, I was playing on that team in 1999.
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And you and I know that young people, sports, media and everything has changed a bunch since 1999.
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Yeah, it has.
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So I don't know what these guys today are on.
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You know, I could tell by some of their choices in clothing.
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Not to mention, I got a Texas board.
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Somebody texted me and said I dropped my kid off at school and there's a young man with a pink Hello Kitty backpack on and was like Ahmad, what is this?
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I'm just like, look here, that's this new.
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That's another conversation.
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I don't know what.
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The new locker room is like but I imagine it's a lot of talent, it's a lot of egos, a lot of confidence, a lot locker room is like, but I imagine it's a lot of talent, it's a lot of egos, a lot of confidence, a lot of bravado, but that's what comes with it.
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I mean, we're men, we compete and that clash can happen.
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And the other part of that, from the standpoint of you said about the analyst side of things.
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Yeah, so, like you know, you're a sports analyst analyst side of things yeah, so, like you know, you was a sports analyst.
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And so, like I was saying, like, let's just say, me and my brother, we'd get on the podcast and we'd talk sports and you know you'd be at work and you'd talk sports with your guys and they'd booze fans, or somebody might be Houston Rocket fans when James Harden was playing with them and everything, and so now you analyze them.
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We call ourselves analysts, houston Rockets fans when James Harden was playing with them and everything.
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And so now you analyze them.
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We call ourselves analysts.
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So, from a professional analyst perspective, insight.
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You know being in the room where you guys got to prepare and you know go through notes.
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You know what does this, what do a real analyst?
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What's the entails that you guys and the preparation that you guys actually have to go through to come out and talk on TV and give us some real, real stats?
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us some real, uh, real stats.
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So with me, I was a college football recruiting analyst, so I went to, obviously, a lot of high school games and then I would go to a handful of college games and obviously I'm I'm.
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The first thing I'm doing as an analyst for me is I'm looking at the tape, right, like if I was still in in that world, like I was, I probably would have been.
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I probably, during this time I would have been making a break from watching my fifth tape on a young man, you know who's, you know looking at four or five different schools.
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And so I'm looking, you know, obviously, different positions.
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You're looking for different things.
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You're looking for explosiveness.
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You're looking for, you know, speed.
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You're looking for accuracy.
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You know it goes by position.
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I always once again remember because, remember, I wrote a wake in a bottle within, so I'm always talking about the mind, and so, for me, I like to have a couple of questions that I asked during my discovery process that have nothing to do with football.
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That's me I want, I want to know, and and I like to just study young men around their groups, around their families, around their coaches, and just see what that looks like.
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Um, and what I mean by that is is I want to know the things that you cannot see on the fence, like I'll go to a camp and I'll go to a camp early and I'll just go to a random football, sit back, have my pen in my hand, have my recorder out.
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I'm just looking at the field and maybe there's a dad or a coach or someone out there, introduce myself and say, hey, you know, hey, you gotta see, uh, is your boy out there?
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It's like, yeah, he's number, he's number 12 over there.
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It's like, yeah, okay, cool, tell me about him or whatever.
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And it's like, oh, you know, you know he's, he's going into his first year of varsity and he's doing this and he's and the dad is opening up about it and I'm like, okay, and I'm taking some notes here and there and and something intriguing may come from that oh, you know, when he's not playing football, he plays the piano.
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And it's like, oh, that's interesting, that lets me know he's cultured, right, or?
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And then, you know, you get all this intel from them.
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And he's like, yeah, you know, when he also plays.
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You know, he plays shortstop for baseball and it's hard for him to make all the baseball games because he has a train for football.
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So now he's a multi-sport athlete.
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And so me, I like to get all of the intel possible to understand the makeup of this young man.
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Because see, what did I just learn?
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I learned he's a multi-sport athlete.
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I know that he's cultured, which means more than likely he has a strong uh household, uh structure, uh there, which means he's less likely to get in trouble when he gets to college.
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And even in the real world he's he's the least likely to probably be arrested for something dumb.
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He may or may not.
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He probably doesn't use drugs, and so I mean all of these I'm not gonna say they're assumptions, but this is data is needed for me to understand the player.
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You know, I, when we're watching games, even now, I cannot know anything about a team, a player, maybe even the sport as a whole.
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But if I watch a random football game, like we do on saturday sometimes, and I'll look at it, I'll look at a team and I'll say that team is going to lose and they'll say why.
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I'll say look at them on the side, put a little praise break in between there, or something Nobody knows.
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Yeah, I got it.
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We already know what that is.
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You know what I'm saying.
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Hey, when you try to do something positive, you speak positive and he only comes to kill, steal and destroy man.
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But I ain't, we ain't gonna allow that to happen today, man.
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So uh, we back had a little technical difficulty.
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People, I'm still back with my man amat, hey, uh, so so, um, you know you're a very sought out motivational speaker worldwide, so just tell us about what's your motivation to get up every day and to go out and inspire others.
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Man, I guess you could just, you know, if we can get up, I can just go just to go do the work, to do the good work, to share the good news.
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Right, and obviously you know that's, you know out of Matthew, and you know go out and share the, you know to share the gospel with others, or whatever.
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And so for me, it's just the idea that I do truly want to serve others and attempt to make the world better than when I got here, attempt to make the world better than when I got here.
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And so when I'm teaching, I'm traveling, I'm coaching, I'm speaking or whatever it's like, I go into every one of them knowing that this is the moment that's going to change.
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Somebody is going to walk away from this with something that's going to make their lives better.
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I did a, I did a conference, cj and Austin last year, right before we went on our mission trip, and I remember, um, a bunch of people coming to me and sharing me how it changed their life, but there was this one man who was just leaning up against the wall by himself and he stepped away from that wall and grabbed my hand and just looked at me closely and was like you were talking to me that story about not not feeling noticed and that you have value to the company you were talking to me.
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We do it, cj for the one.
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That's what you do it for.
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You do it for the one.
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I know you know everybody's like.
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You know crowds of four or five thousand.
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We're only there for the one, right yeah and so, and so when I, when I, when those people find me, or the young man who sends me a text message or email seven years later and was just like, I remember being in the back of the room when you spoke in this locker room, and I was the young man in the back who didn't know where my future was going to go to.
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And now I have a career as an engineer and I'm doing this and I'm doing that, and I'm like, okay, god, this is this is what you sent me here to do, this is the mission, this is what, and so that's my motivation.
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My motivation is not only to build a bridge to future generations, but just give a word or something to where somebody wakes up tomorrow and says, because of that man and what he said and what he represents, tomorrow I want to do something different, just one, and that's and that's a new way of me thinking, cause before it was just like you know, I wanted everybody to get it, and that's just not how that's supposed to work.
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Even Jesus showed us that he wasn't even effective in the place where he grew up so um yeah so I, I, I, I look for the one, look for the, and.
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So that motivates me every morning to say, lord, reveal to me who I'm supposed, who I'm supposed to connect with today and and share, and share your good word and your works with them.
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You know, and I believe that 100% I just interviewed a young lady a couple weeks ago and she did my daughter's sixth grade commencement speech.
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So this was 16 years ago and, as you said, as the people that came to you, she told me how privileged she was for me to remember her or the speech that she gave 16 years ago and to still have that in me, to be like man.
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You know, because I remember the little girl.
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You know.
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She went through this story and she said and that little girl was me and I've always remembered that and when I started doing this podcast, I reached out to her and you know just the excitement that she had.
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And I know, as you said, with the young, with the man that grabbed your hand, to feel as though, to know that you have made an impact in somebody's life and don't know this person or know where this person come from or nothing, nothing, but just to know that this person came to you and say amen, that was for me and I appreciate you and, like you say, you know god putting you on the path and he puts us in places that we need to be at the time that we need to be there.
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A lot of times we don't know why, but for that one it's not like the 99 that stayed, you know, saying that didn't get lost.
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You come for that one and rejoice over that with more than a 99.
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So yeah, man, so I understand what you said on that point, bro.
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So, um, when did you, when did you realize that your ministry, or, you know, your motivational speaking is, when you broke it down, where you wanted to just speak, your audience was going to be with you.
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Well, I, obviously my audience is not 100 percent you, but that is where I'm.
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A lot of my focus goes to most people.
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When they see my profile or whatever, they'll see that a good portion of it is with the youth, whereas that is the target audience of mine.
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I'm of the belief that if we don't invest in the future, we don't have one.
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So I mean, you know a lot of people look at you, know generations behind them, and they did it with us too, but like, obviously, it's like well, it's different now and it's like, well, they said that about us too.
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Um, it's just, if we just think that these students and the young boys and girls who are behind us, that they're just, you know, they're just not going to get it, they just don't share the values or whatever, it's just like well, they didn't get there on their own.
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I'm not saying that we caused the problem or who caused the problem.
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All I'm saying is here we are, we keep thinking again, like you said, you're looking for the one.
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Well, we can use that same concept when it comes to reaching the next generation behind us.
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We don't need 100, 10, 12, 15, tip the scales over and allow them to go out and let their fire burn, go out and allow their light to shine.
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That's a, that's a bargain and that's a.
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That's a ratio I'm more than willing to accept.
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And so when I look at and I hear them talking about, you know, these kids don't have any respect, don't have this, and that I'm like'm like, well, where are you looking?
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Because I work right now.
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I work in the Woodlands, texas, here in basically North Houston area, and I have young boys and girls who are on fire for Christ, who are on fire for righteousness, on fire to do what they are called to do by their father.
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What that does for me is like, ok, god, you're, you're showing me that.
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Like, hey, there's some impact to be made here.
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So, now, not that I was like, oh well, I don't know what I'm going to do here.
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No, but what ends up happening is it's like we can double down.
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Now, we see, we see some fruits.
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Right, remember, we don't have to see all of it, we just need to see the next step.
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We just need to see enough light to know that, hey, I'm going to bring all the gas on this bonfire and throw some more wood on top of it.
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On behalf of the fact that, if I can encourage enough of them to carry on this but see, cj, we're, we're not.
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We can't get into the same hallways of the schools and colleges that they can.
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We're not on the sideline at those games.