Embracing the Chaos to Create Your Dream Life and Legacy - with Sloan Echavarria

Leanna Laskey McGrath  0:08  

Welcome to the executive coach for moms podcast where we support women who are attempting to find balance and joy while simultaneously leading people at work and at home. I'm your host Leanna Laskey McGrath, former tech exec turned full time mom, recovering perfectionist and workaholic, and certified executive coach.

Leanna Laskey McGrath  0:30  

Hi, everyone. Welcome back to the show. Thank you so much for joining me today. I am excited to introduce today's guest. Her name is Sloan The Beast. That is her nickname. And I'm so excited to introduce you. She is an entrepreneur, a mom of four a chaos coach. And we are going to learn so much today from Sloan. So Sloan, thank you so much for being here today. Welcome. 

Sloan Echavarria  0:58  

Thank you so much for having me. I'm so pumped to be here and sharing with your audience, just a couple of golden nuggets to help them in their work life balance. So my name is Sloan Echavarria. I go by Sloan the Beast, I am a chaos coach that helps women that are navigating the juggle between motherhood and entrepreneurship. And I hope you create this intentional work life balance that's going to suit your specific family dynamic because no two families are exactly alike. Because that's not exciting enough, I also have four kids that are homeschool. I run multiple businesses with my husband, and we live off grid in our RV. So we have a pretty adventurous life.

Leanna Laskey McGrath  1:39  

Wow. Yes. So you run a bunch of businesses. You homeschool your four children, you live in an RV. How do you do all of this? 

Sloan Echavarria  1:52  

Well, first, we just decided right where everything else starts, we made the choice that we wanted to live a life that was exciting. I think a lot of people believe that once you get married, especially once you start having children, you kind of have to fall into this suburban white picket fence lifestyle. And that just wasn't what we wanted for ourselves. We've always been really adventurous. We love to travel. And so we decided, You know what, let's let's do life, the hard and exciting way. And we just kind of led from there. 

Leanna Laskey McGrath  2:23  

Yeah. So when you made that decision, the hard and exciting way? What did that mean? And how did you start to create that life? 

Sloan Echavarria  2:33  

Yeah, so I was working in corporate America, I was working for the CEO of a major vacation ownership company. And my husband, I just started noticing he couldn't work for other people. And I had this idea that we should start our own brand. We he already was in partnership with barbershops. And so I said, you know, what, what would it look like if we created a family brand, a legacy brand, something that our children could pass on for generations, and at the time, we only had one daughter, that was our only intention. And as we started to just get into the entrepreneurship space, we started realizing no one was talking about running businesses and raising families. This was not the case back in 2017. And so for us, we didn't have any other options, we moved back from Atlanta, we started this business. And what we found is okay, we can't just have my husband run the business by himself, he really needed my support. 

Sloan Echavarria  3:31  

So here I am lugging around my newborn breastfeeding in the back room while running payroll, running marketing, hiring people, homeschooling my four year old at the time, and we just decided, You know what, this is difficult, but it's actually also really fulfilling, because all of a sudden, my daughter was helping in a shop that was going to become hers one day. She was learning how to communicate with different people of all ages, things that, you know, skills that aren't taught in schools nowadays. And it was giving us the opportunity to still build this really successful business. But to do it together to have these moments together. Because anyways, we're all on borrowed time. So we might as well make the most of it. And one business led to two led to three. And now we run an academy, we have barbershops and I was previously a funding expert for women. But I recently changed over about a year and a half ago to supporting women in this in this juggling act, because I found that even though I was going through all of these consultations for grant writing, at the end of the day, they asked the question that you asked me at the beginning before we hit record, and it was how do you do it all? Yes, I get it. I need money to grow my business, but how the heck do I do this and still am a present wife and intentional parent, how do I not put myself on the back burner? And that's what really caused that shift. So I hope I answered your question there. 

Leanna Laskey McGrath  4:57  

Yeah, I tell me your all of your secrets. Obviously, not all of them, but maybe some of them. Because I think, you know, so many people listening are at least balancing, running a company or, or a team, and also running a household and a family. And so that feels like a lot. And then also to think about adding in homeschooling, adding in multiple businesses. And you mentioned taking time for yourself, which I think is so often the thing that we forget about first or put down, you know, put on the backburner first. So 

Sloan Echavarria  5:34  

Yeah.

Leanna Laskey McGrath  5:35  

What works for you?

Sloan Echavarria  5:36  

I'm going to start where you ended and it wa,s I take time very intentional time for myself. I have a morning routine. And I believe that every woman needs to have a morning routine. And ultimately, what you're doing is you are slowing down, regulating your nervous system before you get into the rush of the day. Because oftentimes, we wake up and we're like, gotta get breakfast going, I'm already running late, I didn't pick out my clothes last night, do I have enough time to do my makeup? It's just we're on go. Instead of waking up in the morning and saying, You know what, whether that's prayer, whether that's meditation, whether that's journaling, whether it's a simple, right, we need simple, skincare routine, drinking a cup of coffee while looking out your window and total silence, you need to slow down first. You need to set your intentions at the beginning of every day, because it's impossible for us to continue pouring into everybody else from zero, from empty cups. 

Sloan Echavarria  6:32  

So that's really where I started is I'm very intentional about spending time with myself by myself. And then from there, I do have a three step process that I teach my students and it's to delegate, to batch, or to eliminate. Just like raising children, it takes a village to run a business, especially C level entrepreneurs and business and you know, business people, we have to have teams in place. And more importantly, we have to empower our teams, by trusting in them, giving them tasks that they can actually fulfill by working in their zones of genius. So I'm very big about delegating out tasks, I get everything done. But it doesn't mean I have to be the one to do it all. I'm huge about that. So delegating out tasks. This can also even look like grocery services. Get yourself an Instacart account. When you realistically look at how much time, and I love grocery shopping as much as the next girl right? What a vibe. But how exciting is it to go to the grocery store with four toddlers who all they want is snacks, like, the energy suck. I just can't.

Leanna Laskey McGrath  7:47  

Yeah. I know when you said you love grocery shopping, I was thinking maybe your kids are a little bit older than mine.

Sloan Echavarria  7:54  

I love grocery shopping by myself, right? Maybe grab a bouquet of flowers. But with kids. It's exhausting and not in a bad way. It's just you have to be mindful of where's your energy going? And there's some battles that aren't worth it. So for me I have Instacart on like speed dial, you know, think about things like that, what can I delegate out so that I can free up the bandwidth of yes my time, but my energy because that is a currency within itself. 

Sloan Echavarria  8:28  

And then batch. So I go off of a day blocking system. Most people use a time blocking system but I'm a busy mom and entrepreneur, I need flexibility. And day blocking gives me that flexibility to say, you know today is a barbershop day, everything that's barbershop related, whether it's talking to my team, whether it's sending out paperwork, going to the accountant for that specific task, everything that's barbershop related, that's all being done on Mondays. So how do I homeschool? Thursdays and Fridays are typically my homeschool days. And every single morning while they're having breakfast, they have either a worksheet an activity that we're doing. But day blocking is how I batch.

Sloan Echavarria  9:06  

And then eliminate. I eliminate any tasks that do not serve me, any people that to not serve me in this season. Not because, well, there's nothing of benefit there. But if you're an energy suck to me, if you are if you are taking more than what I really can give in this season, it's not forever just a season, then I have to eliminate that. If there's a hobby that's not serving me in this season, that's going to have to be placed that's going to have to be shelved, because I don't have the time or the energy for that. Notice how I don't talk about money, because we can always make more money. We're executives, we're business owners, we are savvy. Money comes in flows through us effortlessly. That's not the issue. The issue here is knowing how to optimize and manage your time and energy and that three step process is how I do that. 

Leanna Laskey McGrath  9:56  

Yeah, amazing. And I love I mean it makes so much sense that you have a process for it to be able to manage all of this. And it's interesting to hear you talk about kind of day blocking rather than time blocking. I think that's an interesting strategy. And what I hear you talking about, I think the word that I heard you say a lot is energy. How do you think about protecting your energy? Or where you spend your energy? It seems like there's a, you have a lot of focus on that if I'm hearing you correctly. 

Sloan Echavarria  10:29  

Yeah, absolutely. Because even from a parenting perspective, I like to say, our kids, we always say, Well, do as I say, not as I do, right? What kid does that like? What kid follows that? Your children are projections of, of what it is you're putting out into the world. And so I'm very mindful of what it is that I am exuding, because my kids are then going to internalize that. So I do, I am very mindful of my energy. One of the ways that I, one of the indicators that I use is just burnout. I know that if I'm getting irritable, if I'm getting frustrated really easily, if I'm easily triggered, those are just responses to my body telling me, Okay, your energy is off, you're you're exhausted, you haven't, you haven't been following through with your morning routines you haven't been pouring into yourself. So for me, energy is so important because it does affect the way that I parent, it affects the way that I respond to my husband, and the nurturing of that relationship. My team, am I excited to go to work every week? Or do I feel like I hate it here? That energy is felt by our teams, our teams know when we don't want to be there, our teams know, when we're not excited about a particular team member or a particular project. That is unspoken behavior. And that's felt, and that transcends regardless of your culture. 

Leanna Laskey McGrath  11:56  

Yeah. So when you recognize this, it sounds like you're staying in tune with what's going on with your body and what's happening for you. How do you kind of, um, course correct? 

Sloan Echavarria  12:10  

Yeah, that's a great question. So for me, I have to write everything down. I'm very much a kinesthetic learner. And so I just go back and I say, Okay, have I been journaling? If I haven't been journaling, let me go ahead and ask myself, okay, what is bothering me right now? One, what am I grateful for? I always start there, what am I grateful for? But what's bothering me right now? What are things that I need to bring awareness to because once we bring awareness to that situation, we can then start working through and getting to the root of that. I always I, every single day, I have to pray. And I just ask God like, Hey, can you shed light, bring awareness to what it is that's, that's going on? Make me, um. I'm thinking of the word in English. I know it in Spanish, but I don't, I can't think of it in English. But basically make me aware of what are the external situations that are that I'm allowing to hurt me to bother me to trigger me, what am I internalizing? 

Sloan Echavarria  13:04  

And then from there, one tried and true thing that I do is I go to the gym, and I just leave it all on the gym floor. I train four to five days a week, and I train hard, because I would much rather leave all of that frustration at the gym, than come home and lash out at my husband. Get off, you know, on whatever with my children. It's not it's not worth it. So I find other ways to just release. 

Leanna Laskey McGrath  13:33  

Yeah. And one of the things that is so interesting about what you're saying about your morning routines, I think that so often because we tend to have this kind of perfectionist lens or expectation of ourselves, we think, well, if I'm going to be successful, then if I set a routine, I need to follow it 100%. And if I don't, then I failed. And I'm gonna be really hard on myself. And I heard you say sometimes I, I fall off of that, right. Sometimes I recognize that I stopped doing my morning time, right. And so I think it's really important for all of us to notice and recognize that you're still able to be successful, even while you're not doing things, quote unquote, perfectly. 

Sloan Echavarria  14:21  

Yeah, absolutely. And I think I'm sure you have systems in place where you can pour into yourself, aside from your child and your husband and and those are the things that kind of anchor you, right, back to yourself. And like everything else, there's a season for that. People get sick, you get sick, it happens. You get into hustle seasons. Hopefully this isn't something that you're always in right because that's that CEO evolution. But absolutely to your point. You don't have to follow it to the tee. That's what the process is there for though is so that when you do need to be grounded, you have a routine to go back to you have something that's going to hold you down and bring you back to center. And most importantly, bring you back to your vision, your vision as a CEO, your vision as a mother, as a woman. That's really why, at least that's what I teach, that's really, why you should have the systems in place is because everything should be leading down to that vision of what you have you want for your life. 

Leanna Laskey McGrath  15:25  

Yeah, I think that probably many listeners can relate to having systems at work. Because you know, whenever we are in, in our corporate roles, or wherever we're working, we need that in order to make the business run. Whenever we add kids into the mix, you know, it, it's, I talk a lot about the transition to motherhood and parenthood, and how hard that is. I don't know how much time we spent thinking about our systems in this new dynamic, you know, even when we already have children, then we add another one. What are our systems going to be? I'm realizing this as we're talking because, yeah, I think that that's one of the challenges. It's like, we know that these systems need to exist for the work part of us. And maybe that's sometimes why such high achieving women gravitate towards that, because it's like, I know that systems exist here. I feel really comfortable in that. I'm like, good about that. And over here, it's just like chaos. And so you know, it's like, how do I start to create systems or implement them? So I feel like there's chaos in my life. And maybe that's why you call yourself a chaos coach. Yeah, how do I how do I start to create my systems? 

Sloan Echavarria  16:44  

Yeah. Leanna. I love that you mentioned that because I think that that is what's really interesting about these. I, they call it like the high quality woman, right, the woman that's like excelling in her career in her business in her life. But then we don't really talk about children when we're when we're talking about the high quality woman. And one thing that I have noticed is these are women that are excelling in their careers. Because like you mentioned, they have systems in place, they know exactly what they need to do, they know exactly the results that they render there, they are valued, and they know the value that they bring to the business. When it comes to motherhood, however, you're like, Well, you know, yeah, like, I know, I carried the kids. But like, other than that, what value do I bring to the table? Like, if I'm not here, does this still run without me? Now there's some moms that would say no, and I would argue, well, if you give your husband the opportunity, they would absolutely actually they'll surprise you. But what these women need to understand is exactly what you mentioned, the systems that you have at work are there for a reason, a system is nothing more than a framework that helps you achieve a desired, a desired goal upside of resolution. 

Sloan Echavarria  17:57  

So I like to teach on the, it's like a pyramid. So an inverted pyramid, where systems are at the top routines are in the middle, and then habits, which are just behaviors that you are consistently doing until they become second nature, that is at the very bottom. So where your systems start are in your behaviors are in your habits and these habits that you are consistent with. When you wake up in the morning, does anyone have to tell you to brush your teeth? Probably not. You've been doing it for 30 plus years, right? And so you already know, I wake up, I brush my teeth. So what habits need to change in your everyday life so that you can have solid systems in place that help you navigate the peaks and the valleys when life does what it does? So that's where I always start is okay, what habits need to change? Do you need to wake up earlier, so that you can have this time for yourself? If you need to go to sleep earlier than that's what needs to happen? Right? So we have to talk about, okay, what are what are the systems that need to change? 

Sloan Echavarria  18:58  

For me, I'll give myself as an example. I was that mom that was running off coffee and Jesus. And I thought that was just so cute, because I'm just so busy. And I actually for my birthday, a year and a half ago started working with my personal trainer, and not because of you know, physical insecurities or anything like that, but I was so enveloped in business. Business was consuming me. And my husband said, I think this is a great idea because you need a hobby. You need to do something that is not business related. And when I started working with her, she showed me this opportunity where I'm very much legacy minded. Everything that I do is how am i How am I being an example to my daughter, who will one day be a mother who will one day be a wife who who will be a high quality woman? Well if I want her to be those things, then I have to be that example for her. So I started working with my fitness coach and she said what would happen if instead of you having breakfast every single day, just a treat before dropping them off with grandma or anything like that, what would happen if you took the time to have breakfast with your children every morning? Doesn't have to be a big breakfast, but if instead of you having coffee on the go, you sat down with them every morning for 20 minutes, and you guys had breakfast together. Those 20 minutes have turned into an hour that we sit down myself, my kids and and now I don't care how busy my day is, in fact, the busier my day is, the more time we take to slow down in the morning. And that stability has been a game changer as we've experienced so many transitions over the course of the last six months since moving into the RV full time. So what had to change? I had to first change my mindset, I had to acknowledge the fact that what I was doing is creating anxiety around food for my kids. And again, because legacy is always at the forefront, I said What habits need to change in order for my children to learn better habits, so that when they're adults, they don't pass this on to their children? 

Leanna Laskey McGrath  21:03  

Yeah, one of the things I hear you saying a few times is about kind of slowing down, starting your day off slow. And there's a coach that I follow, he always talks about slow down to speed up and kind of the necessity of that. And I think especially in America, you know, we're we're just like, go go go all the time, and that kind of hustle culture, and it's almost like the more busy we are, it's like, we wear it as a badge of honor, right? I have so many things on my plate. And maybe it makes us feel more important or more valuable. But it doesn't feel like we can ever slow down. We've just got to go go go go go. And so I'm curious, like, just about that mindset of slowing down and how almost how you can like justify it. It sounds like you've you've you're justifying it a little bit, you know, with kind of like you said you the legacy. But yeah, I think that it's such an important success strategy, and also just living life to the fullest strategy, right, of like creating joy. Talk more about that, about that idea of kind of slowing down. 

Sloan Echavarria  22:16  

Yeah, well, this practice of slowing down I love the way that that you just phrase it slow down to speed up is really what enables you to pivot. It's what empowers you in those pivots. Because now what you're doing is, again, you're putting legacy at the forefront, when you understand that you're not a parent by accident, you have purpose in your parenting, and everything that you are teaching them is going to be passed on. We like to think of inheritance as money or life insurance, I think of inheritance as the unspoken habits and the unspoken lessons that our children are learning in our everyday living. And so that is the way that I live my life is I look at everything from this place of okay, my sons, when they look for a wife, what would I like for them to know? What is important? And I know that my children are going to be entrepreneurs. My daughter is 11, and she's a nail tech. Like and she has her own business. And it's a whole thing. And I see the way that she navigates her day, I see the way that she converses with other girls her age and the self awareness that she has, and other moms have come up to me. And they're like How's she so, you know, smart like this. And I say, Well, honestly, we just have a lot of conversations, and I lead by example. 

Sloan Echavarria  23:33  

And so how I slow down is I'm just a leader, I slowed down so that my kids know that there is a way to build massively successful lives, not just businesses, but lives fulfilling lives, without feeling like they're in a rush without feeling like they're on some kind of agenda or timeline, as determined by everyone else. You get to do this at your pace. This is your business, this is your vision, which means that you get to set the pace at which it grows, you get to determine what kind of people you want to work with. If you don't want to be in hustle culture, change it, change the way that you perceive your business, change the way that you perceive the timeline of your success story. It really starts with your mindset and then grows from there. But that's that's just an insight on exactly how do I slow down and then when it comes to pivoting and situations because they happen daily, right? Every single day it's something unex- even even me being here today is a pivot that had to be made, right? And so how do we make those so effortlessly? We slow down because life is just full of information and how you experience things. That's up to you. That's a choice that you make. So there's so much value in learning how to just take a step back before you take three steps forward like we often like to do. 

Leanna Laskey McGrath  24:58  

Yeah, yeah, I think I talk a lot in coaching about creating the space for curiosity. And that's kind of what I hear you saying is that, without some space, there's no room to learn anything, there's no room to discover anything, or really to create much, because, you know, when we're just kind of go, go go on autopilot, which I think is often our stress response as high achieving women, you know, who are like, I know what I need to do to get it done. So I'm just gonna, you know, check this box, check this box, check this box, and like you said, the experience that our kids probably feel on the other end of that, you know, is that maybe they are kind of more of a box to be checked in. That's not really the kind of experience that we want for them. But what we do is we put our heads down, and we just go, go, go, go go, right. And we just kind of we're like, if I can just get through this day, if I can just get through this week, if I can just get through the season. And I hear so many women talking about that. And I have said that before as well. And I think that it's just important to recognize that like, what we're doing is we're just getting through our lives like we, right, that, and is that how we want to live our lives? It's just It's just we don't think about it that way and make a conscious choice about it. Because we don't slow down. But when we slow down, are really curious about is this how I want to be living my life? Is this what I want out of my life? Do I want something different than like you said, that's where you can pivot because you have that space to start to rethink things and possibly create new ideas and reevaluate and decide what you want to do. 

Sloan Echavarria  26:42  

Yes, I love I love that you said that word curiosity because I often go back to that term when speaking with different women about well, why do you feel so disconnected after having children? Why do you feel like you don't know yourself or you need to find yourself instead of reinventing yourself? Right? And I always like to say yes, become curious, become curious in your hobbies, become curious in your business, become curious in your personal growth, personal and professional growth. Because that's how we stay learning. That's how we get to evolve into women so far beyond what we could have envisioned being ourselves in our own, you know, sometimes very small imaginations. So I love that you said that word. 

Leanna Laskey McGrath  27:31  

Yeah, it's one of my favorites. I think that's where all the good stuff is, is curiosity, which can only happen with space. I think that it's almost like a chicken and egg because it's like space can allow for curiosity, but also curiosity creates more space. 

Sloan Echavarria  27:48  

Yes. 

Leanna Laskey McGrath  27:49  

So I just have to ask, this is probably unique to you, and probably not that many listeners are in the same situation. But out of curiosity, I just have to know how 

Sloan Echavarria  28:02  

I already know

Leanna Laskey McGrath  28:03  

do you, do you have a family of six people living in an RV? How do you do that without, you know, throwing someone out?

Sloan Echavarria  28:12  

So we are a family of six. And we also have four, well, one of our one of our dogs recently passed away. So there were four pets.  But now we currently have three. And we actually lived in an RV for three years while building our barbershop business. And how that came about is we had to decide, do we want our money to go into our business, or do we want it to continue going into rent? At that point, we very much had a hustle mentality of well, when you risk it all you win it all right. That's not necessarily always the case. So we decided to buy a Class A RV and we lived in that for three years, until we had our fourth baby and we moved into a rental. We did that for another two and a half years. And then recently, we bought land and decided that well, we're paying all this money, a mortgage, I don't really want to get into another rental. Let's just kick it in an RV. So we did. We have a 43 foot toy hauler. Beautiful just so cool. Our kids really thrive in this environment because they love being together. They are just they're crazy about their older sister. My boys are really close in age. They're all Irish twins. And they're very outside kids. So they have dirt bikes and ATVs and all the things. 

Sloan Echavarria  29:39  

It's also the fact that our life is very fast paced, and being able to come home at the end of the day to like no service, a head full of stars everywhere. It creates this perfect balance of just slowness in the midst of the chaos. Like as much as we have going on, I can still come home. And everything is just so still I wake up to cows right outside my window. And it's, it just gives me peace. And so our kids at this point, they're used to it. And from a creative I speak a lot on creative living, and what this does for families that especially entrepreneurs that are struggling to buy their own homes, this is such an opportunity for you, because living out of an RV, especially if you can live out of an RV paid, you save a ton of money, you save, I mean 1000s of dollars a month, so that you can go into the home buying process, for example, owner build or buying directly from the owner or putting a higher down payment. So there's a lot of benefits to that. And like I said, I do, I do have a whole speaking deck on creative living and its benefits. But also just the benefits of being in family the benefits of creating that value that I feel like is lost in the sauce, in the chaos of everything, have family at the center of everything. dinner together, being together, enjoying each other's company, not having a tablet in front of the kids face 24 hours, but really having them be curious about being outside and excited about the elements. So that's just a little bit about our off grid experience. It's also really beneficial for us as homeschool parents to talk about how do we source our water? How do we source our energy? You know, why should we be conscious of the water that we're consuming and the resources that are limited? So it's been really it's been a really cool experience. 

Leanna Laskey McGrath  31:40  

That's so interesting. Yeah, I always just love hearing different people's stories and how they choose to live. And that's such an interesting, I wouldn't have ever thought about the juxtaposition of the fast paced entrepreneurial life during the day and then being able to go home to like, off the grid. Because I think for me, I can't even imagine like not being able to access my emails and everything right and everything at night. And so I think that's a really interesting way to create balance that, you know, kind of an outside the box way of thinking about that. 

Sloan Echavarria  32:17  

Yeah, also, when we're talking about legacy, because we are moms on this platform, the legacy that you are able to create by owning land cannot be overseen. We need to create wealth through assets. And especially if you are a minority woman, this is such an opportunity for you, as the indus- real estate industry, especially here in Florida, which is kind of rocky continues to rise, we want to take advantage of this. And we want to get creative about the way that we're getting our our feet wet into the real estate industry for the sake of our children, right, because they're really the ones that are going to take advantage of this. And we want to just position them the best way that we can. 

Leanna Laskey McGrath  33:00  

Yeah, absolutely. I love that. I love how much you think about legacy and kind of the next generation. I think that's so important, because that's what we're all building. The last company that I worked for was a tech startup. And my CEO always talked about my two startups, the tech startup and you know, starting up at home with with family and with a new generation really right that we're creating so, um, so I love that that focus. 

Leanna Laskey McGrath  33:27  

Well, Sloan, I've learned so much. And really I love that just the way that you think about things and are kind of looking at things. And so I know that our listeners are gonna have so much value from hearing you talk about your success strategies, and just the way that you're living your life. That's so inspiring. So thank you so much for sharing your story and coming here and spending some time with us today. 

Sloan Echavarria  33:55  

Thank you, Leanna. This was so much fun. I love connecting with other mom CEOs. I think it's important for us to stick together and share our stories. And thank you so much for sharing your platform and giving us this space. 

Leanna Laskey McGrath  34:06  

Absolutely. Well. Wonderful. Well thank you so much, Sloan and thank you everybody for tuning in and we will see you all next week.

Leanna Laskey McGrath  34:19  

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