The Future of Careers: How to Find Success on Your Own Terms

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Something that I coach people on and I'm
very vocal about in my content is that

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um, if you're feeling discouraged in
your career or in your, in your life, in

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your livelihood and you're wondering why
opportunities aren't coming to you, just

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know that there is nothing wrong with you.

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If there's anything wrong, it's probably
just in the way you're presenting

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yourself and that's an easy fix
and that's what we help people do.

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Here's the million dollar question.

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How do men like us reach
our full potential?

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Growing to the men we dream of being
while taking care of our responsibilities,

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working, being good husbands, fathers,
and still take care of ourselves?

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Well, that's the big question.

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In this podcast, we'll help you
answer those questions and more.

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My name is Brent and welcome
to the Fallible Man Podcast.

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My name is Brent.

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Today.

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My Braxton Wood.

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Braxton, welcome to the
fallible man podcast.

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Thank you so much for having me, Brent.

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This is awesome.

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Now Braxton, as you know, we
like to start out kind of light.

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So how's your trivia?

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Uh, I would like to think
good, but we will see.

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Fair enough.

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Here we go.

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What country is James Bond
girl Lea Seydoux from?

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Is it?

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A Luxembourg, B France,
C Belgium, or D Canada,

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France.

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Alright guys, you know how this works.

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Don't cheat, don't jump
ahead, don't look it up.

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And for God's sake, if you're
driving, please don't write it down.

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We'll come back to that later.

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Braxton, I don't do credentials.

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I don't do beginning introductions
because that's not accurate.

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So in your own words today, in
this moment, who is Braxton Wood?

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Braxton Wood is a maniac that probably
does too many things but loves doing them

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and is just a big nerd and Ultimately
loves helping people make the most

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of their lives and their livelihood.

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I like it.

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I like it big nerd What's
your flavor of nerd here?

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Um So my background I always attribute
everything kind of to like my

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profession, which is I guess what a
lot of us guys do So my background is

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in marketing and business services.

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And so, uh, the, the nerd
part is tech software.

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I have a tech industry
background that flavor nerd.

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Okay.

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So you say I, I'm, I have
an it hit background.

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It's worked it for years.

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And even inside tech, there were
like different flavors of nerds.

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I had this one job, it was great, because
I had my guys who were cell phone guys.

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And like, just, if I had a cell
phone issue, it didn't matter.

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Make, model, brand, doesn't matter.

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They knew it.

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I had my graphics card guys.

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These guys like, they would talk about
graphic cards, operating systems,

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on the graphic cards, drivers.

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20 years ago, uh, there were, there were
different flavors, even in theirs, like,

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wow, but it was a great place to work
because you could find anybody to fix

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any problem you had between all the guys
who got out of different parts of IT.

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It was so funny.

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I had no idea that was
possible until I worked there.

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I was like, Oh, wow.

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Okay.

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I thought I was kind of geeky
when it came to computers.

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And until I worked here, I'd never
heard about people talking about

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the, you know, the dot builds
on the GPU of a graphics card.

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This decade old.

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It's funny how, uh, those
kind of opportunities kind of

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open, broaden your horizons.

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Like, oh, I'm not even, like, these guys
are like the Tyrannosaurus of geeks.

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Like, what's happening here?

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Right here, I thought I
was this big computer nerd.

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And when I started working
there, I'm like, oh, I'm

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actually a fairly normal guy.

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Okay.

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It's a wholly didn't peg that, but sure.

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Braxton, if you could have one
superpower, what would it be and why?

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Oh man.

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Ever since I was a kid, I would have
this recurring dream that I fly.

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Like, and my, my favorite
ever since I was little super

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Superman was always my favorite.

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So like just being able to fly,
I think that, Oh my goodness.

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So in the Superman,
Batman, it's Superman, huh?

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It, I enjoy the Batman movies.

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I enjoy the Batman story, but
I'm a Superman dude all the way.

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Yep.

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Oh, I don't know if we can be friends.

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No, my, my best friend is a
Superman guy, so I have love

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for the Superman people too.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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If you were to look.

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Oh yeah.

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I can appreciate that.

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That's my brother.

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He was, as much as I'm a
Superman fanatic, my brother

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was the Batman fanatic grown up.

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So we got along well enough, I guess.

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If you could only have one meal for the
rest of your life, what would it be?

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One meal for, sorry.

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Oh, one meal.

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One meal.

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If I could have one meal for the rest
of my life, uh, I love Asian food,

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so I might have to go with sushi.

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That's not a bad choice.

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Yeah, I think it's Sushi.

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Okay, Sushi.

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What does your morning routine look like?

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Everybody talks about their
successful morning routines.

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What's your morning routine?

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Or do you have one?

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I'm not one of those guys.

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Yeah, like, I think it's a
waste of time to make your bed

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when you get up in the morning.

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That's me.

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Um, let's see.

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It's, I don't know if
it's that interesting.

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Uh, wake up, roughly Between 530, 630,
depends on my mood, the night before.

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Um, usually immediately shower.

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Um, uh, sometimes I read a few
pages of whatever book I'm reading.

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Um, and then I'm trying to get
in the habit of going to the gym.

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So, the gym is in there somewhere.

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And then, you know, kiss my wife.

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Um, make my lunch for
the day if I need to.

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And off to, off to work we go.

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Really it.

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Okay, okay.

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What's the goal of the gym?

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Um, I, yeah, the goal of the gym is to
just maintain my health, but also like

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I'm admittedly a little overweight.

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Um, and so I want to get down to my,
you know, my, my high school physique.

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I think if I strive hard enough and if
I'm dedicated and committed enough that it

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can happen, but it's got to be committed.

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So.

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Okay, okay.

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I, I, I love, I'm a personal
trainer, so I love understanding

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why people are wanting to do it.

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It's important to know what
you're wanting to accomplish.

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It's a good thing.

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You got to play, right?

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You know, where you want to go with it.

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What purchase of a hundred dollars or
less have you made in the last year?

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That's had the biggest
impact on your life.

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Purchase dollars or less, man.

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Um, so this goes back to me being a nerd
probably, but, um, so as, as someone

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that owns two businesses, um, and, and
a nerd on top of it coming from the

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tech industry, I find any way to help
me optimize my, my work schedule, my

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My routine with work, things like that.

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And so, um, I, uh, am in like, I nerd
out on lifetime deals for software.

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So I bought a, uh, a lifetime deal on
a piece of software for my business.

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That was like 70 bucks.

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So that'd probably be it.

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Oh my goodness.

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What's off lifetime software
do you buy for 70 bucks?

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Yeah, so it, there's a marketplace
for it and I can go into this if we

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want to, because it's pertinent to
what I do, but, uh, this particular

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platform is, I told you I'm a nerd.

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It's a Google Maps scrape tool.

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So it, it's a way to basically get leads
from my business rather than running ads.

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I can scrape Google Maps and it
will pull any business data off

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of Google Maps as long as the
business is registered on Google.

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Okay.

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Interesting.

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I, I, I'm, I enjoy lifetime deals.

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It's just most times like, Oh yeah,
that sounds like an amazing deal.

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I don't have 800 laying
around, you know, lifetime one.

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I've got a couple of those lifetime
deals that I love is like, you

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know, right time, right place.

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I happen to have the cash for it.

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They, they made me because I
hate monthly rate cream bills.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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I was to sit down with you at the
dinner table with your family.

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What is one funny story
that they would tell on you?

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Oh, no.

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Oh, no.

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Um, so this story doesn't come up
as often, but this is probably the

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one that my wife would leap to.

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Um, when we, we were first married,
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our apartment after being married.

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So brand new couple, like things are
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And I managed to clog the toilet and
being newlyweds and not having anything

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like not having any household items.

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She had to go to the store to buy a
plunger and come back home with it.

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So that's a bonding moment right there.

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Like we, we realized we were the
one for each other at that point

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because we both came out of it.

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Okay.

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Awesome.

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I love it.

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What's one random fact about
you that people don't know?

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Oh, man, there's a,
there's a few I can share.

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Um, just, I, um, am an
amateur ballroom dancer.

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Yeah?

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Okay.

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Yeah, and it, yeah, it's something
I got into when I was 18 and

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just, great way to meet girls,
by the way, for anyone listening.

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Um, yeah, and I just, it was something
at that age I just fell in love

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with and it's something I still love
even though I don't do as often.

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But yeah.

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Does your wife dance with you?

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We do.

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Um, she's, she's not, I don't know.

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She would, I think if you were
to ask her, she would tell you.

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Yeah.

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Braxton doesn't take
me dancing near enough.

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And, but I think also, um, uh, she
only knows what I've taught her and

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I'm probably not the best teacher.

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And so she would probably enjoy it
more if we together had a, a unbiased

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teacher , so, so that she could
learn it for herself and not from

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her perceivably biased husband on.

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How to dance, but yeah, I talked
to a lot of guys, very few

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guys actually like legitimately
actually take their wives dancing.

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So the fact that you do, right, she,
she's got a good, she doesn't know

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it's in Paris and shopping here, but
I talked to a lot of men and if you're

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like, Hey, you take your wife dancing.

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They're like, uh, either hell no, or
where are we supposed to go dancing?

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Right.

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Yep.

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A lot of us live, I live in a
real small town, so dancing is not

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something that happens a whole lot.

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Right.

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Hmm.

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Braxton, what is something
everyone should know about you

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before we dig into today's show?

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Um, I should know about me.

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There's a lot of ways I
could answer this as well.

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Um, so I'll just say at a high
level and as a disclaimer, I

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tend to be very polarizing.

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Um, and like, I'm very blessed
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decent audience for my content.

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And with that comes a
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So I would say I tend to offend a
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perspective on a handful of things.

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That's probably it.

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Oh, you're in good company.

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We're all about stepping on
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Cool.

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You're going to fit right in.

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Hey guys, we've been spending a
little bit of time just getting

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to know who Braxton is today.

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I wanted you to get a feel for who
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In the next part of the show,
we're going to dive into education,

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employment, and career development.

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All right, guys, welcome back
in the first part of the show.

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We just spent some time getting to
know who Braxton Wood is and what

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he's about and what he's like.

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This part of the show, we're going
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and career, as well as get a little
bit better idea of what Braxton

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actually does and why he's here today.

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Now, Braxton, let's just start off with.

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Tell us about your company
career on command and being

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an executive career coach.

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What, what does that even
mean for most people?

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So what I help people do is take
command of their careers and

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land their dream job, land their
dream career on their own terms.

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And a lot of that is based on
my own personal experience,

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which I'm sure we'll get into.

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Um, but I.

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I help anyone that, career
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helping people do especially.

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Um, because most, I think most people
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that are available out there.

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And what I found is, a lot of
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of put themselves in a box.

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And they think they're limited by that.

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So I help people eliminate a lot
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even think that they don't have.

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Um, and once that happens, then
we're able to really focus and

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find the bullseye on the target
to whatever their dream career is.

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Tell us a story.

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How did you get here?

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Right?

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I mean, how do you, how do you even
line up for this kind of a career?

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Cause I, I would definitely agree.

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There's a lot of careers and
stuff out there that people have

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no idea exist or that they do.

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How did you get to this?

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So it's kind of a long
story, but to summarize.

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Um, I'm a product of homeschooling.

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I have not set foot in a classroom
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I do not have a high school diploma.

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I didn't get my, I don't
have any certificates.

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I didn't go to college.

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I don't have any degree either.

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And so to answer your question,
how I got here, me being, um,

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being very self directed in my
education as a teenager, um, forced

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me to really understand the value.

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of learning, not schooling, but learning
and gaining knowledge and again, not

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having, not taking the path to get
any sort of paper that said I was well

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informed, that said I was well educated,
forced me to have to follow a career path

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that was purely based on merit, right?

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And so what I found when I did that was
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more effective approach than going to
college and getting permission from.

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Some institution that
says, you're, you're ready.

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You're ready for the
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Um, and so me going through that journey,
um, and being able to land jobs at tech

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companies where they required a bachelor's
degree or greater, um, or working for, you

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know, international coaching companies,
uh, where there's a very refined

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skill, skillset they require and me ha
happening to have that skillset again

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because of my self-directed approach.

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Um, I realize that there's something
to that approach and it's something

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that I felt the world needed to hear
because so many people are getting

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discouraged and frustrated with
where they're at in their careers.

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And I want to help alleviate that
because it's not as complicated.

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It's not as hard.

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As people think, but it requires you
to get out of that box that you're

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limiting beliefs are putting you in.

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And one of the things I, I hate to say
it, but I fervently believe one of the

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ways we put ourselves in that boss box is
by thinking that education is the answer.

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It didn't let me rephrase that.

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Not education, but
schooling is the answer.

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We limit ourselves by thinking
that schooling, or that

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smart paper is the answer.

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So that's how I got here.

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So you didn't do the
traditional education route.

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Now as a homeschool parent, we've been
homeschooling our kids since COVID.

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Oh, can I say this?

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I don't know if I can say
that on air anymore yet.

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I'm sure like I'm going to get
like a YouTube strike for that, uh,

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after schooling fell apart there
and what the school system area

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coughed up and I'll give them, you
know, they did their best, right?

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Try and I'll, I know a lot of teachers
in our school system, so I'll give them

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that they did their best for what they
had to try and come up with some solution,

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but it also brought a lot of attention
for me to what their classes look like.

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And so my wife and I decided to start
homeschooling our kids and we go

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through a company with a curriculum
and so it's not entirely free form,

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uh, there is, but I'm actually much
happier with at least the curriculum.

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My kids are actually learning
like history, things that actually

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happen, not the, not the touched up
history, like history, which is nice.

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Um, I'm, I have a, my grandfather
was a principal and a history

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teacher, and so I'm, I'm big
into learning from our past, but.

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You know, you didn't have that.

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And I know when I was growing
up, like homeschool kids were

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the weird kids where I'm like,
there's something wrong with you.

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Right.

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Which in hindsight is like, Oh
yeah, I totally missed that.

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Entirely.

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So what did you do?

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Because I know it didn't used to.

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How old are you?

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Let me ask.

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I'm 37 at this moment.

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So homeschooling certainly wasn't
as organized back when you were

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in school as it can be now.

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So what did you do and what did you learn?

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Um, It's, it's hard to describe.

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So when I say homeschooling, I use that
term very loosely, but that's the word

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I use so people can kind of understand,
but I was not taught by my mom at all.

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Um, sixth grade was the first year
that I started homeschooling and

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my mom basically the textbooks and
stuff and I went through them and

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I did the quizzes and that was it.

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I was, when I say self directed, I was
very self directed and even me being

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12 or 13 years old when I first started
at that age, it was like, I had this.

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overwhelming, um, sense that I needed to
make sure that I did this right because

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I didn't want to screw up my life later.

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That's me as a, like that's, I know
most kids at that age are not like that

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and so that's why I think homeschooling
doesn't work for some people because

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I, I, I have to credit some, a lot of
my success to the fact of how motivated

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and how committed I was to just
making sure I didn't screw my life up.

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So I, but yeah, my mom would buy
all, she did not instruct me at

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all, like I, I am dead serious.

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I did not get any
instructions for, from anyone.

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And a lot of people, this is
when people start telling me

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Braxton, that's impossible.

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And it's honestly the truth.

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And this is the kind of box that I'm
talking about we put ourselves in.

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It's like, give a kid something
they're interested in and

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they're, they want to learn it.

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You have to just create the
environment where it's interesting

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to them and where they'll learn it.

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For me, I, there were certain topics.

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I did have an interest in history.

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I know not everyone does.

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Um, yeah, so that's what I did.

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And so starting from sixth
grade all the way through quote

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unquote high school, I got books.

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I read them.

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I did quizzes that was
associated with them.

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And then when I, when I got
to high school age, I will say

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that I actually did do schooling
through an accredited high school.

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It was a, they were accredited
high school, but they did

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it all through the mail.

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And so I did technically have, I
didn't, I wouldn't call them teachers,

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even though that's what they call
themselves, because all you did was

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read the textbook, do a quiz, and then
you would mail the quiz in and they

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would grade it and send it back to you.

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So, but, but through that, you know,
between junior high and through

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that experience in high school, um,
that was my education as a teenager.

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And so through that,
that accredited school.

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, um, uh, I, there was a psychology
class they required that was required

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that I took, which I actually loved.

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Um, and because of that class, I, for
a long, this for a long time as a kid,

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I thought I wanted to be a, a therapist
or a counselor because of that class.

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There's obviously the math,
there's obviously the history.

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Um, I even took, it was
a poor choice on my part.

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I even took a, an auto repair course
through the mail, which was just,

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I, they shouldn't have offered that.

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But like, I did that because like, oh,
I want to learn how to fix cars myself.

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That was a bad idea,
but that wasn't on them.

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That was on me.

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Um, anyway, that's what I did.

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And I always joke that I'm a homeschool
dropout because I, if I finished

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all the programs and all the courses
with that accredited high school.

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Then I would have gotten a high school
diploma, but I got tired of it and I

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got sick of it and two classes short.

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I just decided I'm not
gonna do this anymore.

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And so I didn't do it and I didn't finish.

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So that's my joke about
dropping out of homeschool.

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I, yeah, but that's what I did.

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I actually homeschooled myself
our senior, my senior year.

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I, uh, we moved my senior year,
the summer before my senior year.

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And where we moved to, my mom went to
take and give me a red shirt for school.

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And I only had like, I had front
load of my high school career, so

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I could only go part of the day.

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My later years of high school, I only
had like one credit left to graduate and

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it was elective credit by that state.

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And I'm like, this is stupid because
they said I could go a full day all year.

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I could go half a day all year if
I found a job they approved of for

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a credit for one elective credit.

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That's like gym, man.

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I'm not doing a whole day all year.

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So I elected to homeschool.

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And my mom's like, Hey,
public school is free.

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You want to homeschool?

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You're paying for it.

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I was like, all right.

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So turns out the state we're in didn't
support homeschooling at the time.

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So I had to go through the
next state over to homeschool.

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And so, right.

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It was all this correspondence.

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And then halfway through the year, another
school at another state bought them out.

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And it was a religious school.

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So then I had to meet their requirements
for Bible, which had never, I

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thought, okay, well, that's easy.

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My dad, my dad was a missionary preacher.

470
00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:34,650
So it was like, okay, at least.

471
00:23:35,814 --> 00:23:37,165
Familiar subject, right?

472
00:23:37,865 --> 00:23:41,685
My dad struggled to help me with Old
Testament survey for that school.

473
00:23:43,105 --> 00:23:46,044
Like it was every obscure
fact ever in the Bible.

474
00:23:46,054 --> 00:23:47,284
They mentioned it once.

475
00:23:47,285 --> 00:23:55,404
And so, but I ended up having to meet
all their requirements and they had more

476
00:23:55,405 --> 00:23:57,315
requirements than the state I was in.

477
00:23:58,095 --> 00:24:01,735
So I ended up doing a full year's worth
of work my last six months of school,

478
00:24:03,034 --> 00:24:07,695
plus the half year's worth of work in the
preceding semester for the other school,

479
00:24:08,725 --> 00:24:10,635
uh, all while paying for it myself.

480
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,320
So I graduated from some school in
someplace in Mississippi I've never

481
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,960
actually been to, but I do have a
diploma that says their name on it.

482
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,580
That's funny.

483
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,389
I, I can't hardly spell the name.

484
00:24:22,399 --> 00:24:26,730
It's like Coesco or Kosico
or something, Mississippi.

485
00:24:27,910 --> 00:24:30,590
Uh, but it was like, huh?

486
00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:35,730
But yeah, it was, it was that like
they'd send me the workbooks and the

487
00:24:35,730 --> 00:24:38,620
books and I just do it on my own.

488
00:24:38,620 --> 00:24:40,699
And I worked a full time
job while I was doing it.

489
00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:42,090
I was working construction.

490
00:24:42,929 --> 00:24:43,720
I'd come home and.

491
00:24:44,820 --> 00:24:49,960
Knock out one subject a week if I wanted
to, and then move to the next subject.

492
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:52,629
And it was just totally on my own.

493
00:24:52,629 --> 00:24:54,459
My parents were like, Hey,
this is the way you want to go.

494
00:24:54,479 --> 00:24:54,859
Fine.

495
00:24:55,050 --> 00:24:55,940
Make your own path.

496
00:24:57,250 --> 00:24:59,199
But yeah, it was that
mail order back and forth.

497
00:24:59,259 --> 00:25:03,239
My kids now, like they have like video
teachers along with their workbooks

498
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,370
and this counts as this or this counts.

499
00:25:06,370 --> 00:25:07,209
Like, okay.

500
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,449
I'm like, I'm so glad my wife
is keeping track of all this.

501
00:25:11,959 --> 00:25:15,969
I get lost in that mess, but it's a
little more, a little more organized now.

502
00:25:16,774 --> 00:25:18,745
If you go that way, I still
know other people who are doing

503
00:25:18,745 --> 00:25:20,555
exactly the way you grew up.

504
00:25:21,085 --> 00:25:22,425
My wife was schooled that way.

505
00:25:23,124 --> 00:25:26,485
After sixth grade, her parents
just like bought her school books.

506
00:25:28,365 --> 00:25:30,435
She didn't get her GED
until after we were married.

507
00:25:31,724 --> 00:25:33,154
And it was because I encouraged her to.

508
00:25:33,154 --> 00:25:35,655
She felt like it weighed on her.

509
00:25:35,774 --> 00:25:38,454
She felt like it was something
she needed to do or wanted to do.

510
00:25:39,554 --> 00:25:41,085
So I was like, hey, go get your GED.

511
00:25:41,135 --> 00:25:43,485
There's classes at the local
college, go get your GED.

512
00:25:43,554 --> 00:25:44,254
That's what you want.

513
00:25:45,225 --> 00:25:48,155
Uh, so at least you have that, but
yeah, it was that like her parents

514
00:25:48,155 --> 00:25:54,045
just, well, here's a book and just let
the kids lose, you know, they did the

515
00:25:54,045 --> 00:25:57,024
best what they knew, but didn't know.

516
00:25:57,034 --> 00:26:02,905
So, so what are your thoughts
on traditional education now

517
00:26:02,914 --> 00:26:04,915
versus some of the other options?

518
00:26:05,805 --> 00:26:09,664
This is something that I'm very vocal
about because most people don't understand

519
00:26:09,664 --> 00:26:11,724
the history of our education system.

520
00:26:11,724 --> 00:26:14,685
And so it's based on what's
called a Lyceum model, which

521
00:26:14,685 --> 00:26:16,765
was popularized by Aristotle.

522
00:26:17,555 --> 00:26:21,785
And the whole basis is like
lectures, the testing, like what

523
00:26:21,785 --> 00:26:25,695
we, what we see is very familiar and
standard, that's, that's what it is.

524
00:26:25,714 --> 00:26:30,224
It's called a Lyceum model, but it's
been proven to be an ineffective model.

525
00:26:31,155 --> 00:26:33,955
Um, there's a, there's a gentleman
I follow, his name is Dr.

526
00:26:33,955 --> 00:26:34,845
David Bowles.

527
00:26:35,345 --> 00:26:38,375
He's a PhD in education and he
basically says the same thing.

528
00:26:38,375 --> 00:26:42,245
He talks about how the American education
system is one big experiment that we

529
00:26:42,245 --> 00:26:45,864
never stopped doing, even though it
has been proven to be ineffective.

530
00:26:46,485 --> 00:26:53,865
Um, and so that's why I've recognized
while not having a ton of structure

531
00:26:54,655 --> 00:26:58,074
created for me, I created my own
structure, which I know a lot of people

532
00:26:58,074 --> 00:27:03,605
wouldn't do, um, especially as a youngin,
but, um, not having that structure

533
00:27:03,605 --> 00:27:08,885
allowed me to really go on my own terms
to understand what my interests are.

534
00:27:09,675 --> 00:27:10,795
So I think that's the difference.

535
00:27:10,805 --> 00:27:15,445
So in terms of like how the system
works, I, I honestly, it's designed to

536
00:27:15,455 --> 00:27:18,205
instill conformity in us to make us.

537
00:27:19,145 --> 00:27:25,715
Um, less, uh, less, uh, objection,
um, when the, in, here in the States

538
00:27:25,735 --> 00:27:29,755
when there was this question of like,
okay, during the industrial age,

539
00:27:29,784 --> 00:27:32,784
we had all these factories and what
the need was at that time in the

540
00:27:32,784 --> 00:27:36,215
workplace was loyal, committed workers.

541
00:27:36,724 --> 00:27:38,894
And so a lot of people know John D.

542
00:27:38,894 --> 00:27:42,845
Rockefeller is a famous kind of,
you know, in, in our early history.

543
00:27:43,595 --> 00:27:46,075
He helped found the
General Education Board.

544
00:27:47,550 --> 00:27:51,040
When they saw this need, we need factory,
factory workers that are going to, you

545
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,730
know, stay in line and toe the line.

546
00:27:54,340 --> 00:27:59,610
And so there was this concept of
like, how does, how do we get people

547
00:28:00,750 --> 00:28:03,060
stay, stay in line and toe the line?

548
00:28:03,579 --> 00:28:07,860
And well, they discovered it takes
12 years to indoctrinate a populace.

549
00:28:08,715 --> 00:28:11,935
So, then the general education
board and the education system was

550
00:28:11,955 --> 00:28:13,295
founded based on that principle.

551
00:28:13,315 --> 00:28:17,175
Most people don't know this, but me
being who I am, I did the history, I

552
00:28:17,175 --> 00:28:18,404
want to make sure I understood this.

553
00:28:19,034 --> 00:28:23,585
Um, so, obviously, we know what
12 years we're talking about.

554
00:28:23,645 --> 00:28:25,605
It takes 12 years to
indoctrinate a populace.

555
00:28:26,215 --> 00:28:28,745
So, but then the question came up, Mr.

556
00:28:28,745 --> 00:28:31,652
Rockefeller, and he had some other
people too, it wasn't just him.

557
00:28:31,652 --> 00:28:34,385
Uh, Horace Mann was another one,
if anyone wants to look him up.

558
00:28:35,095 --> 00:28:37,594
Um, John, what are we going to do?

559
00:28:38,195 --> 00:28:41,205
Like, how are we, what are we going
to teach kids all day for 12 years?

560
00:28:41,265 --> 00:28:44,295
And what his response was, teach
them everything about nothing.

561
00:28:46,705 --> 00:28:53,445
That is, that principle is the foundation
of our education system, everybody.

562
00:28:54,195 --> 00:28:59,615
So when you think about the lunch bell
ringing or the recess bell ringing,

563
00:28:59,625 --> 00:29:03,545
we're, we're, we're conditioned
to run to and from based on that.

564
00:29:03,665 --> 00:29:05,325
That's how the factories worked as well.

565
00:29:05,325 --> 00:29:07,275
The lunch whistle would
sound and things like that.

566
00:29:07,505 --> 00:29:09,105
Everything is all about conditioning.

567
00:29:09,584 --> 00:29:12,905
And so me, and like I said, I
offend a lot of people when I talk

568
00:29:12,915 --> 00:29:15,935
about this, but no one wants to
acknowledge that this happened.

569
00:29:16,094 --> 00:29:19,254
As soon as I bring it up, no, like
they, they changed the subject.

570
00:29:19,744 --> 00:29:22,874
And I, I wish people would embrace
that this is what happened.

571
00:29:23,754 --> 00:29:28,475
There was even a, um, a journalist
at the time during the industrial

572
00:29:28,475 --> 00:29:30,564
age when this was all happening.

573
00:29:30,945 --> 00:29:32,544
And his name was H.

574
00:29:32,574 --> 00:29:32,814
L.

575
00:29:32,814 --> 00:29:33,365
Mencken.

576
00:29:33,764 --> 00:29:35,864
Go Google him to see
what he said about it.

577
00:29:35,864 --> 00:29:38,904
But he basically said the whole point
of the education system is to not.

578
00:29:39,469 --> 00:29:44,349
And I'm paraphrasing, but to not lift up
lawyers and create artists and creatives

579
00:29:44,350 --> 00:29:46,270
and thinkers, we have enough of those.

580
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,179
We need people that
fall in line, basically.

581
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:56,419
Braxton's take on our system is
it is designed to keep us just

582
00:29:56,419 --> 00:29:59,494
stupid enough that we follow it.

583
00:30:00,350 --> 00:30:04,390
The path that we're told to take, but
smarter enough to be productive for.

584
00:30:04,780 --> 00:30:08,630
Other people, and I refuse
to, I refuse to accept that.

585
00:30:08,660 --> 00:30:09,640
I refuse to embrace that.

586
00:30:09,770 --> 00:30:13,450
So, which is another basis
of coaching that I do.

587
00:30:13,460 --> 00:30:17,729
It's like, you guys need to understand
that it's important that you start

588
00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:21,919
ripping down the walls of that box that
you've put yourself in, even though

589
00:30:21,919 --> 00:30:23,530
you may not realize that you did it.

590
00:30:25,150 --> 00:30:25,280
Yeah.

591
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,179
I was teaching you about
Batman versus Superman.

592
00:30:27,180 --> 00:30:28,100
I'm not sure we can be friends.

593
00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:30,280
I like, we, we're going
to be great friends.

594
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,940
You and I are going to go along.

595
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,340
I was even like thinking about
following up as you started

596
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,390
talking about, I was like, Ooh.

597
00:30:36,745 --> 00:30:39,675
I'll follow up with this question
about Rockefeller and see if

598
00:30:39,685 --> 00:30:41,025
you've heard about that concept.

599
00:30:41,565 --> 00:30:44,245
And it's like, and you went right
into it, it's like, it's okay.

600
00:30:44,245 --> 00:30:47,735
We can be friends totally on
the same wavelength there.

601
00:30:49,314 --> 00:30:51,984
What is your take on
the current job market?

602
00:30:51,984 --> 00:30:55,715
I've recently found a term, uh, I've
been looking at going back to work.

603
00:30:56,474 --> 00:31:00,475
I've taken, I took a year off
to try and get this monetized

604
00:31:00,475 --> 00:31:01,605
and I haven't gotten there yet.

605
00:31:01,615 --> 00:31:02,815
So I'm going back to work.

606
00:31:03,695 --> 00:31:08,405
And I'm applying to jobs left and
right and I came across a term I

607
00:31:08,415 --> 00:31:14,115
hadn't heard before talking about
ghost jobs and companies putting up

608
00:31:14,125 --> 00:31:17,055
all these positions that they actually
have no intention of hiring for.

609
00:31:17,624 --> 00:31:19,635
What do you think about
our current job market?

610
00:31:19,664 --> 00:31:21,675
I know there are a lot of
people frustrated out there.

611
00:31:23,604 --> 00:31:23,994
Yeah.

612
00:31:24,054 --> 00:31:26,715
So perception is reality.

613
00:31:27,375 --> 00:31:30,135
So whether you think the job market is.

614
00:31:30,315 --> 00:31:33,615
Um, taking a downturn or not,
you're, I believe you're right.

615
00:31:34,815 --> 00:31:39,225
And by that, I mean, yes, there is merit
to, I'd like, I just had the tech company

616
00:31:39,225 --> 00:31:44,575
I used to work at, um, just laid off,
um, a dozen people a couple of weeks ago.

617
00:31:45,245 --> 00:31:50,665
Um, and layoffs, I'm, I'm on
LinkedIn on a daily basis and I see

618
00:31:52,144 --> 00:31:53,334
stories of people getting laid off.

619
00:31:53,895 --> 00:31:57,635
And it feels like it's, you know,
2008 all over again, a little bit.

620
00:31:58,325 --> 00:32:02,745
Um, there's merit to that, but
by the same token, it's 2023 and

621
00:32:02,745 --> 00:32:04,255
there's opportunity everywhere.

622
00:32:04,914 --> 00:32:05,465
And so.

623
00:32:06,190 --> 00:32:11,170
We just don't, um, we just don't
know where the opportunity is because

624
00:32:11,170 --> 00:32:15,180
again, we've been conditioned to, to
have blinders on for certain things.

625
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:22,520
Um, excuse me, um, you know,
like, for example, I know that.

626
00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:28,580
There's no reason that someone can start
out making 25 an hour in their profession.

627
00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:29,890
Some people don't make that much.

628
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,760
That's not a ton of
money, but it's a start.

629
00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:39,350
And one way you can immediately
start making 25 an hour is go take

630
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:42,860
a one day class to get certified to
be a phlebotomist, as an example.

631
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:44,180
One day.

632
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,290
And that's all it takes.

633
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,110
There's opportunities
like that everywhere.

634
00:32:49,540 --> 00:32:51,820
But we've been conditioned
to not watch for them.

635
00:32:52,595 --> 00:32:56,165
And so we don't, we, we,
um, like we're not aware.

636
00:32:56,205 --> 00:32:57,835
We, we're, we don't
know what we don't know.

637
00:32:57,925 --> 00:33:01,785
And so that's part of what I do is help
people understand there's all these

638
00:33:01,785 --> 00:33:04,705
different ways that you can make a
living for yourself, that you can have an

639
00:33:04,705 --> 00:33:10,175
income, but we maybe just put ourselves
in a box without even knowing it.

640
00:33:10,214 --> 00:33:11,254
And we're not aware.

641
00:33:13,015 --> 00:33:15,385
That, that explains so many
of the phlebotomists I met.

642
00:33:18,785 --> 00:33:19,565
That's a fair statement.

643
00:33:22,935 --> 00:33:28,364
Um, I, I, my grandmother was a
nurse and so I'm a little, and

644
00:33:28,364 --> 00:33:30,384
my mom was a CNA for a while.

645
00:33:30,385 --> 00:33:32,244
And so I'm a little judgmental, right?

646
00:33:32,315 --> 00:33:35,704
I, I, I met some phenomenal nurses
and this is not a bloated nurse.

647
00:33:35,705 --> 00:33:38,504
I met some phenomenal
nurses over the years.

648
00:33:38,505 --> 00:33:39,335
They give you a shot.

649
00:33:39,345 --> 00:33:40,255
You don't feel anything.

650
00:33:40,315 --> 00:33:41,215
They stick a needle in your arm.

651
00:33:41,215 --> 00:33:42,095
You don't even notice.

652
00:33:43,415 --> 00:33:47,545
I've met some phlebotomists and
they do this all day, every day.

653
00:33:48,140 --> 00:33:53,840
And they miss your vein a dozen times
and beat crap out of your arms and it

654
00:33:53,850 --> 00:33:57,960
hurts like it's like you do this all day.

655
00:33:57,979 --> 00:33:59,900
How can you not be good at this?

656
00:34:00,809 --> 00:34:01,350
I don't know.

657
00:34:01,630 --> 00:34:05,769
Now I know that's, uh, that's a
little, well, terrifying and exciting.

658
00:34:05,769 --> 00:34:08,240
I didn't know you could do it in one
day, but it is a little terrifying

659
00:34:08,259 --> 00:34:10,665
at the same time on this end of it.

660
00:34:10,665 --> 00:34:18,879
I mean, I, I don't go to the doctor
very often anyway, so I can't judge

661
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,195
them too harshly because I have
to be dying to go to the doctor

662
00:34:25,485 --> 00:34:26,585
in your experience.

663
00:34:27,505 --> 00:34:30,905
What are most of us getting
wrong when we're trying to

664
00:34:30,905 --> 00:34:32,295
move forward in our careers?

665
00:34:32,344 --> 00:34:37,304
Cause I know, uh, in the it sector,
one of the ways, the only way I

666
00:34:37,304 --> 00:34:42,075
found to get a raise in like the
it sector is to change jobs, right.

667
00:34:42,095 --> 00:34:43,324
To go to a different job.

668
00:34:43,894 --> 00:34:48,905
And I know we moved past a time where
company loyalty is, I go back two

669
00:34:48,905 --> 00:34:52,085
generations and it's like, if you
were loyal to the company, you were

670
00:34:52,085 --> 00:34:56,895
a made man, you were set for life 25
years or 30 years for your company.

671
00:34:56,895 --> 00:34:59,995
Um, You've got a great pension,
you're going to be taken care of,

672
00:34:59,995 --> 00:35:02,485
they're going to treat you well,
they're going to move you up.

673
00:35:03,415 --> 00:35:07,465
Now that doesn't exist anymore, that
model has changed in the industries.

674
00:35:08,225 --> 00:35:10,574
And I know in the IT field, that's
about the only way you get it

675
00:35:10,575 --> 00:35:12,125
raised is to take a different job.

676
00:35:13,355 --> 00:35:16,414
So, you know, there are a lot of
people out there who want a better

677
00:35:16,414 --> 00:35:18,024
job, who want to move forward.

678
00:35:19,104 --> 00:35:20,184
What are we getting wrong?

679
00:35:20,194 --> 00:35:22,784
You said, talked about perception
some, what are we getting wrong in

680
00:35:22,784 --> 00:35:24,304
trying to move forward in our careers?

681
00:35:25,074 --> 00:35:25,314
Yep.

682
00:35:25,484 --> 00:35:26,265
So there's a few things.

683
00:35:26,265 --> 00:35:27,565
The first thing you touched on it.

684
00:35:28,095 --> 00:35:28,925
That's something.

685
00:35:29,290 --> 00:35:31,710
that I coach people on all the
time and I even talk about it in

686
00:35:31,710 --> 00:35:35,200
my content is the quickest way to
get a pay raise is to change jobs.

687
00:35:36,020 --> 00:35:40,260
And the, the fact that you brought up
like, you know, being a company man,

688
00:35:40,999 --> 00:35:49,560
like this, this definitely has to do
with that, um, where, where the attitude

689
00:35:50,059 --> 00:35:54,110
with our employers has changed where
they, they almost have a turn and burn

690
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:55,720
mentality with their employees, right?

691
00:35:55,730 --> 00:35:59,260
The tech company I used to work at
used to have 600 employees on average.

692
00:35:59,890 --> 00:36:02,160
They have half that now
in more recent years.

693
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,820
Because they just turn in burning
people and they're building

694
00:36:04,820 --> 00:36:05,910
a reputation for themselves.

695
00:36:07,140 --> 00:36:07,990
You don't want to work there.

696
00:36:08,820 --> 00:36:15,260
Um, but yeah, to answer your question,
it's, you can, well, I think what happens

697
00:36:15,260 --> 00:36:19,860
with employers is you're with them long
enough that they think they can either

698
00:36:19,860 --> 00:36:23,209
take advantage of you or they think that,
you know, everything is going good because

699
00:36:23,209 --> 00:36:24,730
they don't ask for your genuine feedback.

700
00:36:24,769 --> 00:36:27,790
And even if they do, they don't take
it to heart when you give it to them.

701
00:36:28,330 --> 00:36:29,290
Um, that tends to happen.

702
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,950
I'm not, I'm trying not to blast all
employers because not all employers

703
00:36:31,950 --> 00:36:36,400
are like this, but I see this as
a very common thread, um, even

704
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,590
with people, VPs that I work with.

705
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,910
Um, so that's one thing.

706
00:36:41,220 --> 00:36:47,190
Another thing is, is like, you
don't realize how far you can go

707
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,579
with just a resume that's on point.

708
00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:52,960
Um, I review hundreds
of resumes every year.

709
00:36:54,110 --> 00:36:58,289
And again, this is anecdotal based
on my experience, but based on

710
00:36:58,289 --> 00:36:59,880
the hundreds of resumes I've seen.

711
00:37:00,630 --> 00:37:04,460
The average resume is around a
30 percent match for the job.

712
00:37:06,070 --> 00:37:10,940
So there's a, there's 70 percent
of an opportunity there to opt

713
00:37:11,049 --> 00:37:14,640
for optimization to position
yourself as a better candidate.

714
00:37:15,740 --> 00:37:19,650
I, I once had a coaching client
that had graduated from college.

715
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,824
He had his degree for seven
years in a very in demand field.

716
00:37:25,255 --> 00:37:30,385
But he still didn't, he still
couldn't find his first job in

717
00:37:30,385 --> 00:37:34,725
that very in demand field because
he did a terrible job presenting

718
00:37:34,725 --> 00:37:37,365
himself as a qualified candidate.

719
00:37:37,405 --> 00:37:40,355
And my background, like I said
earlier, is in marketing and in tech.

720
00:37:41,135 --> 00:37:43,594
Your resume is a marketing
tool for yourself.

721
00:37:44,195 --> 00:37:49,205
And the better that people understand
and realize that, the better you

722
00:37:49,205 --> 00:37:50,505
will catch the eye of employers.

723
00:37:51,265 --> 00:37:54,445
So that's one of the things we
do in my coaching program is.

724
00:37:54,830 --> 00:37:57,860
Help people understand, how do you get
your resume to go from a 30 percent match

725
00:37:57,860 --> 00:37:59,810
to a percent match every single time?

726
00:38:00,530 --> 00:38:04,989
Because even at an 80 percent match,
you're doing three times better

727
00:38:05,710 --> 00:38:07,760
than everyone else for that job.

728
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,900
So you're in the top 1 percent
for every job you apply to.

729
00:38:11,530 --> 00:38:14,020
These are the kinds of things
that people don't realize, like

730
00:38:14,020 --> 00:38:14,890
this is what you're missing.

731
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:16,010
Okay.

732
00:38:17,169 --> 00:38:22,610
I was actually watching a clip, I think
on one of your platforms, maybe TikTok,

733
00:38:22,610 --> 00:38:24,910
talking about that the other day.

734
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,570
It was like, of course, I
started thinking about my resume.

735
00:38:29,050 --> 00:38:31,510
And it was like, Oh,
I bet my resume sucks.

736
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:39,400
I actually used to do a lot of hiring
for my last company, uh, and training

737
00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:46,030
and the guys I worked with, they handed
me a couple of resumes like, Hey, we're,

738
00:38:46,050 --> 00:38:48,200
we're looking at these guys on a hire.

739
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,330
I wasn't a part of, and I
handed it back like all these

740
00:38:51,330 --> 00:38:53,240
red marks all over the resume.

741
00:38:54,690 --> 00:39:01,819
And my partner was like, what the heck
man has like, uh, no, no, this is wrong.

742
00:39:01,830 --> 00:39:02,510
This is wrong.

743
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:06,840
This contradicts this, like, he's
like, let me have you go through my

744
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,570
resume before I leave the company, just
so I want someone to like scrutinize

745
00:39:11,570 --> 00:39:17,250
the crap out of it, but a good hiring
manager going to look at your resume

746
00:39:17,259 --> 00:39:18,319
and they're going to scrutinize it.

747
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:22,090
To an extent, and I know, I know
like this much of it, right?

748
00:39:22,090 --> 00:39:26,190
I, that's, I know this much about
it from being that guy looking at

749
00:39:26,190 --> 00:39:32,570
them, but I think we all were taught
early on, like you have one resume

750
00:39:32,570 --> 00:39:33,600
and this is what it looks like.

751
00:39:35,149 --> 00:39:36,460
And that's how it is, right?

752
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:40,789
This is, if you ask for my resume,
this person, this person, this person

753
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:42,470
are all going to get the same resume.

754
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,420
And listening to your TikTok videos, like.

755
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:48,440
I've been missing the ball on this.

756
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,150
I think, I think I'm
doing this wrong here.

757
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:58,319
That's where the biggest opportunity
is because everyone use what

758
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,210
people don't realize is job
hunting is very much a skill set.

759
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,020
And so that's like, that's what we
teach when my, with my company is like,

760
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,430
most people don't think of it that
way, but if you, there, there is a very

761
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:15,090
step by step methodical, intentional
skill set you can develop around this.

762
00:40:15,110 --> 00:40:15,760
And when you.

763
00:40:16,515 --> 00:40:19,265
Fully comprehend it, job
hunting is not a chore.

764
00:40:19,275 --> 00:40:20,745
Writing a resume is not a chore.

765
00:40:20,965 --> 00:40:22,175
It's almost a thrill.

766
00:40:22,565 --> 00:40:24,815
And like, it can be that.

767
00:40:24,815 --> 00:40:28,574
And most like this is again, when people
say you were out of your mind, Braxton,

768
00:40:28,595 --> 00:40:30,005
I've never heard someone say that.

769
00:40:30,424 --> 00:40:33,435
I know, but like, imagine
being able to write.

770
00:40:34,125 --> 00:40:36,655
Like what, one of the things I help
people understand is that it's very

771
00:40:36,655 --> 00:40:40,295
important to tailor your resume
for every job you're applying to.

772
00:40:40,325 --> 00:40:43,045
And I always get the argument
like vehemently back.

773
00:40:43,454 --> 00:40:44,195
I don't have the time for that.

774
00:40:44,195 --> 00:40:45,805
I don't have time to do that for
every job I want to apply to.

775
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:49,510
I don't have the time, I can't, like,
there's no way, and what I explain

776
00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:57,489
to people is, is you will spend,
is, for whales, applying to 300 jobs

777
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,750
for 10 jobs, and you will get more
interviews with the 10, because

778
00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:11,825
you're being intentional, and like,
They're like, Oh, like I have a,

779
00:41:11,855 --> 00:41:14,595
my, I have an early case study
when I first started this business.

780
00:41:14,605 --> 00:41:20,695
She had been unemployed for a year, um,
and was a very talented professional,

781
00:41:20,925 --> 00:41:22,724
but wasn't getting any job interviews.

782
00:41:22,725 --> 00:41:23,594
And this was the problem.

783
00:41:23,614 --> 00:41:29,655
She had a very bare bones resume that she
thought was really good, but it didn't

784
00:41:29,745 --> 00:41:31,945
address anything for any employers.

785
00:41:31,945 --> 00:41:35,315
It wasn't, it wasn't showing
anything for any employers.

786
00:41:35,315 --> 00:41:39,025
It wasn't, things like
that, that would, and so.

787
00:41:43,215 --> 00:41:46,755
As soon as you start to learn to make
your resume as a, again, a good marketing

788
00:41:46,755 --> 00:41:51,095
tool that makes employers excited when
they read it, that's, that's all it takes.

789
00:41:51,115 --> 00:41:54,025
And so it's just a skill that you
have to build up and get good at.

790
00:41:54,555 --> 00:42:00,394
Um, but it's funny, like, I honestly
believe I'm the best resume writer in the

791
00:42:00,395 --> 00:42:05,254
world, but I refuse to write resumes for
people because it, because it completely

792
00:42:05,404 --> 00:42:07,015
conflicts with that whole concept.

793
00:42:07,595 --> 00:42:11,605
So like, I think resume writing services
are scams for that reason, because

794
00:42:11,615 --> 00:42:13,355
they have to use the law of averages.

795
00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:18,510
to give you a kind of sort of good
resume that is good enough for the

796
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,800
type of job you're looking for.

797
00:42:20,190 --> 00:42:23,790
But you're going to pay 600 bucks for
the privilege of having someone do that.

798
00:42:23,809 --> 00:42:27,479
And it's still less than a
30 percent match for the job.

799
00:42:27,629 --> 00:42:28,800
So what are you really paying for?

800
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,040
So that's, that's part of
what we do, is we help people

801
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,270
understand this whole concept.

802
00:42:34,580 --> 00:42:39,320
I, I saw a guy who, yeah, it's, it's,
I think he only works with a handful of

803
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:44,480
people at a time and like it's thousands
of dollars for him to write your resume.

804
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:49,420
But he like, I think there's a guarantee
on like two or three jobs you apply to,

805
00:42:49,420 --> 00:42:51,390
you're gonna get one of them or something.

806
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,270
It was like thousands
upon thousands of dollars.

807
00:42:54,270 --> 00:42:56,830
I'm like, Mm-Hmm.

808
00:42:57,590 --> 00:43:00,250
. I'm sorry, when I'm unemployed, I
don't have thousands and thousands

809
00:43:00,250 --> 00:43:01,400
of dollars to update that.

810
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,180
So that must be people applying for
stuff while they're working or something.

811
00:43:05,850 --> 00:43:09,630
That's, to me, it sounds like, like
if, if I were to make, I, I have a

812
00:43:09,630 --> 00:43:13,270
guarantee too, but I don't guarantee
people jobs because I can't control

813
00:43:13,309 --> 00:43:16,350
their effort and I can't control the
decision of the employer, of the employer.

814
00:43:16,350 --> 00:43:16,600
Right.

815
00:43:16,740 --> 00:43:21,680
So I have a guarantee, but it's not
that, but like, to me, it sounds if

816
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,510
there's someone that's making that
promise, it almost sounds like.

817
00:43:27,060 --> 00:43:30,650
They're, they're writing the resume
for one job, but then they tell you to

818
00:43:30,650 --> 00:43:33,470
go apply to five and there's your, you
know, now they've met the guarantee.

819
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,520
Like that's how some of these
resume writing services work.

820
00:43:36,860 --> 00:43:42,489
It's just like banking on positioning
your resume in a certain way so that

821
00:43:42,490 --> 00:43:46,799
it meets the guarantee for example, but
you as the consumer that paid for that

822
00:43:46,799 --> 00:43:48,390
service would, wouldn't know any better.

823
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:50,520
Oh my goodness.

824
00:43:52,050 --> 00:43:53,140
It's all a crazy scam.

825
00:43:54,410 --> 00:43:55,220
All of it's insane.

826
00:43:55,250 --> 00:43:56,640
I just, I, I.

827
00:43:57,115 --> 00:44:02,095
I become such a skeptic when
it comes to services anymore.

828
00:44:02,095 --> 00:44:04,495
I see all these little
niche services pop up.

829
00:44:04,495 --> 00:44:10,595
I'm like, uh, what's, what's the, I'm, I'm
always waiting for the other shoe to drop.

830
00:44:10,615 --> 00:44:11,015
Right.

831
00:44:11,225 --> 00:44:15,105
Because there's every industry I, and
I've had a broad range of jobs over

832
00:44:15,105 --> 00:44:19,235
my life and everything I've ever done
is like, you get into it and you find

833
00:44:19,235 --> 00:44:22,725
out there's so many little pieces to
it that the majority of people never

834
00:44:22,725 --> 00:44:25,845
know because they're industry specific.

835
00:44:25,845 --> 00:44:27,535
And everybody in that industry knows that.

836
00:44:28,220 --> 00:44:29,910
But the majority of the world has no idea.

837
00:44:31,820 --> 00:44:36,990
And so, you start trying to get into
something and you're like, Oh, there's

838
00:44:36,990 --> 00:44:40,430
like this whole world out there of
this that I had no idea existed.

839
00:44:42,619 --> 00:44:47,430
And, and so I'm always like, I,
I get excited about some things,

840
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:51,190
but I'm, I'm probably a little bit
pessimistic sometimes about it.

841
00:44:51,660 --> 00:44:52,214
Cause like.

842
00:44:53,895 --> 00:44:54,455
Okay.

843
00:44:54,715 --> 00:44:57,955
I, I, I hate the fact that
companies are using like keyword

844
00:44:58,785 --> 00:45:01,055
screeners over resumes these days.

845
00:45:02,365 --> 00:45:05,985
Like my brother applied for a job
that he was super qualified for

846
00:45:06,095 --> 00:45:13,254
that the, like the general manager
of the site, they, they wanted it

847
00:45:13,415 --> 00:45:15,295
like they're begging for his resume.

848
00:45:16,285 --> 00:45:21,505
It took him two and a half years
to get it because the company

849
00:45:21,595 --> 00:45:24,755
outsourced to another company.

850
00:45:24,815 --> 00:45:26,535
They screen the resumes.

851
00:45:27,310 --> 00:45:31,970
And so like the guy who ran the place
and ran the team was working with

852
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,929
my brother for two and a half years
trying to tweak his resume enough to

853
00:45:35,930 --> 00:45:39,910
get it through the screeners back to
him so he could actually hire him.

854
00:45:39,949 --> 00:45:43,340
Like he, the job was going to be
his, we, they just had to get the

855
00:45:43,340 --> 00:45:45,560
resume past the bureaucracy of it.

856
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:52,310
It was like, ah, that, that system
just doesn't seem like it works.

857
00:45:54,010 --> 00:45:54,990
I can address that.

858
00:45:55,050 --> 00:45:55,380
Sure.

859
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,970
Like a lot of people want to hate
on those tools and I get why.

860
00:46:01,475 --> 00:46:04,845
And so if you look at it from the
perspective of the employer, if

861
00:46:04,845 --> 00:46:08,765
they post a job, they will get a
hundred applications that first day.

862
00:46:09,265 --> 00:46:13,914
And so like me as a business owner, I
have, I have a database of my, my list,

863
00:46:13,915 --> 00:46:15,444
both my clients and my leads, right?

864
00:46:15,504 --> 00:46:21,634
And it's, I have thousands of them and
it's the same thing for employers, but

865
00:46:21,634 --> 00:46:23,694
for applications, they need a database.

866
00:46:23,805 --> 00:46:28,345
And so this, those screeners, those
hiring platforms, the software they use.

867
00:46:28,685 --> 00:46:30,385
Helps them manage those applications.

868
00:46:30,765 --> 00:46:34,145
I don't fault them for using them,
because it's a necessary evil for

869
00:46:34,145 --> 00:46:35,625
them to keep everything in order.

870
00:46:36,855 --> 00:46:40,385
So, the trick is, and this is what
actually what we coach people on,

871
00:46:40,795 --> 00:46:45,854
um, is that, just understand how the
screeners work, understand how the

872
00:46:45,904 --> 00:46:48,185
platform works, and you can exploit it.

873
00:46:49,114 --> 00:46:53,405
Like, I always joke like, hiring is a
game, and so, first you need to learn

874
00:46:53,405 --> 00:46:56,735
the rules to the game, but once you know
the rules to the game, you know when's,

875
00:46:57,025 --> 00:46:59,345
which ones can be broken and exploited.

876
00:46:59,730 --> 00:47:03,230
And that's how, like, we have a lot of
clients that end up getting interviews

877
00:47:03,230 --> 00:47:06,740
to, like, 80 percent of the companies
we apply to because we teach them

878
00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:10,960
the skill of exploiting the hiring
software of all things, which most,

879
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,589
most people don't, there's, there's
people that understand it's a thing.

880
00:47:13,590 --> 00:47:14,960
There's people that
don't understand a thing.

881
00:47:16,030 --> 00:47:18,459
So like, but that is a skill in of itself.

882
00:47:18,490 --> 00:47:23,180
And so like, my, my point is,
is like, we can bemoan that this

883
00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:24,830
is the, the, the status Right.

884
00:47:24,830 --> 00:47:24,837
Bye.

885
00:47:24,837 --> 00:47:24,844
Bye.

886
00:47:25,565 --> 00:47:28,405
The industry, we can bemoan
that this is how it works.

887
00:47:28,405 --> 00:47:30,895
And we, we almost refuse to do it.

888
00:47:30,925 --> 00:47:35,074
I know some people argue against
applying to companies that use

889
00:47:35,074 --> 00:47:36,435
hiring software for this reason.

890
00:47:36,435 --> 00:47:37,765
They're like, I'm not even
going to play that game.

891
00:47:37,765 --> 00:47:38,355
I refuse to.

892
00:47:39,035 --> 00:47:41,294
99 percent of companies use this software.

893
00:47:41,295 --> 00:47:43,725
So you're really limiting
your opportunities to do that.

894
00:47:43,855 --> 00:47:50,265
Why not just better your life by
learning this skill that's actually

895
00:47:50,285 --> 00:47:54,985
pretty repeatable and remove those
barriers and discover that you can

896
00:47:55,005 --> 00:47:57,995
get interviews to at least half the
companies you apply to, if not more.

897
00:48:00,275 --> 00:48:04,025
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00:48:56,895 --> 00:48:58,724
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920
00:48:59,774 --> 00:49:01,745
Now let's go on to the show.

921
00:49:02,345 --> 00:49:03,335
All right, guys, welcome back.

922
00:49:03,355 --> 00:49:06,305
In the last part of the show, we
discussed education, employment and

923
00:49:06,305 --> 00:49:10,045
career development, and the realities
of looking for a job these days.

924
00:49:10,535 --> 00:49:12,815
In this part of the show, we're gonna
start talking about what you can do

925
00:49:12,865 --> 00:49:15,925
to get your career growth on track,
whether that's moving forward, pressing

926
00:49:15,925 --> 00:49:18,545
job or looking for another job.

927
00:49:19,334 --> 00:49:24,824
And it's awesome because Braxton is
a guy who looks at, Hey, you have

928
00:49:24,824 --> 00:49:29,224
more possibilities than you know, or
than a lot of times what you realize.

929
00:49:29,235 --> 00:49:31,365
So this is really great for a lot of us.

930
00:49:31,865 --> 00:49:36,685
I know that this is the job market is
something that has been a sensitive

931
00:49:36,705 --> 00:49:38,485
issue for a lot of people since.

932
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:43,190
The dreaded Rona, and a lot
of people lost their jobs.

933
00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:45,210
A lot of people still looking for jobs.

934
00:49:45,830 --> 00:49:48,179
And so I think Braxton is
really gonna help us out today.

935
00:49:48,820 --> 00:49:53,870
Now, Braxton, what are you seeing
as far as like current trends in

936
00:49:53,949 --> 00:49:57,510
career development and how we can
leverage them for our own growth?

937
00:49:59,229 --> 00:50:03,340
Yeah, I think what I coach people
on and what I kind of promote in my

938
00:50:03,340 --> 00:50:06,990
content, this kind of mentality that
we've been talking about this whole time

939
00:50:07,350 --> 00:50:10,010
about, you know, betting on yourself.

940
00:50:11,870 --> 00:50:14,960
It's shifting that direction, but I
don't think it's shifting fast enough,

941
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,710
and like, I still get so much resistance
to, to people, like, all I try to do

942
00:50:21,575 --> 00:50:24,215
And even in my content is just help
people understand that there's more

943
00:50:24,215 --> 00:50:26,945
opportunities out there, but you have
to be willing to bet on yourself.

944
00:50:26,975 --> 00:50:31,215
You have to be willing to put, make an
effort and to like show some intention.

945
00:50:31,805 --> 00:50:36,714
And in doing that, I get called a
bigot and a racist and just like, I,

946
00:50:36,815 --> 00:50:40,434
it, it blows my mind that I'm trying
to encourage people and this is the

947
00:50:40,435 --> 00:50:41,745
feedback I get from some people.

948
00:50:42,125 --> 00:50:48,825
But like, that's how I frame it, is be
willing to bet on yourself, be willing

949
00:50:48,825 --> 00:50:53,394
to you be the one to make an effort
and don't wait for the permission

950
00:50:53,394 --> 00:50:56,085
of an employer to give you a job.

951
00:50:56,095 --> 00:50:59,045
Don't wait for the permission of
an employer to come work for them.

952
00:50:59,214 --> 00:51:02,385
Don't wait for the permission of an
employer to go build your experience.

953
00:51:03,425 --> 00:51:06,295
I got, in marketing, purely.

954
00:51:06,730 --> 00:51:11,870
on me taking an interest in it,
practicing the craft, practicing

955
00:51:11,870 --> 00:51:14,800
it in my own time, doing side
gigs and side hustles, whatever.

956
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,510
But that experience matters.

957
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,459
And so you can slap that on a resume.

958
00:51:18,469 --> 00:51:21,200
That is literally how I got into
a 600 person tech company that

959
00:51:21,219 --> 00:51:22,410
required a bachelor's degree.

960
00:51:22,799 --> 00:51:24,660
And here I am without
a high school diploma.

961
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:25,920
That's, that's all.

962
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:31,539
Most employers actually value experience
and skills more than education.

963
00:51:32,389 --> 00:51:35,539
And to some people that sounds obvious.

964
00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:36,770
Like, duh.

965
00:51:36,990 --> 00:51:40,170
But then, but then they tell me why then
I need the degree because it's required.

966
00:51:40,250 --> 00:51:40,530
No.

967
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:45,099
Here's the things you guys gotta
understand is, and, and my two

968
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:48,110
dozen recruiter partners have
confirmed this with me, so this

969
00:51:48,110 --> 00:51:49,460
is not just Braxton saying this.

970
00:51:50,735 --> 00:51:57,355
Most employers require a degree in their
job listings as an arbitrary way to

971
00:51:57,355 --> 00:51:59,545
try and improve their candidate pool.

972
00:52:00,165 --> 00:52:04,024
So it basically is there to preclude
people spamming their resume to them.

973
00:52:04,074 --> 00:52:05,895
Like, and we've, we've, we see it happen.

974
00:52:06,765 --> 00:52:08,204
I mean, I think, I'm
sure we're all guilty.

975
00:52:08,204 --> 00:52:10,694
Like, Oh, I'm going to, I'm
just going to hit easy apply on

976
00:52:10,915 --> 00:52:12,555
LinkedIn for that executive job.

977
00:52:12,555 --> 00:52:16,135
Even though like I have 10 years working
at McDonald's and I'm not trying to like,

978
00:52:16,345 --> 00:52:17,585
but like there are people that do that.

979
00:52:17,585 --> 00:52:17,765
Right.

980
00:52:17,765 --> 00:52:18,805
And it happens a lot.

981
00:52:20,070 --> 00:52:25,320
Uh, so having that degree requirement
is just an arbitrary way, uh, or an

982
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,450
arbitrary gatekeeper, I should say, to
preclude certain people from applying.

983
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:33,890
But if your resume is still an 80
percent match, a 90 percent match

984
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:37,010
for that job, they're going to
see that in their hiring system.

985
00:52:37,010 --> 00:52:41,810
Their hiring software will actually rate
you as a candidate based on your resume,

986
00:52:41,820 --> 00:52:44,010
not unlike a Google or an Amazon review.

987
00:52:44,380 --> 00:52:48,000
It's there's literally a star
rating in some of these platforms.

988
00:52:48,580 --> 00:52:49,850
And that's what the employer sees.

989
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:51,890
Your education.

990
00:52:52,565 --> 00:52:53,525
Being on the resume.

991
00:52:54,655 --> 00:52:56,194
Where they require it is like 0.

992
00:52:56,195 --> 00:52:58,075
5 percent of that rating.

993
00:52:59,785 --> 00:53:03,325
And so it's all the, you mentioned
it earlier, Brent, like all the

994
00:53:03,325 --> 00:53:05,424
keywords and, and things like that.

995
00:53:06,235 --> 00:53:10,525
That's what gets your resume to
be a 67 percent match for the job.

996
00:53:10,925 --> 00:53:12,954
And when they open up the
hiring software and see that.

997
00:53:13,325 --> 00:53:15,825
You're, you're, they're going to
interview because they want to see,

998
00:53:15,825 --> 00:53:17,235
like, this guy knows his stuff.

999
00:53:17,825 --> 00:53:18,545
This guy knows it.

1000
00:53:18,565 --> 00:53:19,305
Let's talk to him.

1001
00:53:19,805 --> 00:53:20,495
That's what they said.

1002
00:53:20,495 --> 00:53:21,984
I know that's what they
said when they saw me.

1003
00:53:21,985 --> 00:53:25,724
It's like, oh, Braxton doesn't
have a bachelor's degree, but he,

1004
00:53:25,725 --> 00:53:27,225
he checks all the other boxes.

1005
00:53:27,235 --> 00:53:29,435
His experience is aligned other than that.

1006
00:53:29,795 --> 00:53:30,524
So let's talk to him.

1007
00:53:30,984 --> 00:53:32,225
It's completely arbitrary.

1008
00:53:32,225 --> 00:53:33,064
So that's the first thing I would.

1009
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,050
I would say in terms of like
this, like the, the state of

1010
00:53:37,050 --> 00:53:38,320
affairs with the job market.

1011
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:44,710
Um, like I said before, it's not
shifting fast enough and so there's

1012
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:46,770
a huge opportunity right now.

1013
00:53:46,779 --> 00:53:51,080
I don't even know if people will ever
come to understand this like mainstream,

1014
00:53:51,849 --> 00:53:56,729
but right now there's a huge opportunity
to take advantage of the fact that most

1015
00:53:56,749 --> 00:54:00,509
people still think that those degree
requirements and those job listings

1016
00:54:01,029 --> 00:54:03,569
are not arbitrary, that there are
actually hard and fast requirements.

1017
00:54:03,925 --> 00:54:07,665
So you as a candidate can take advantage
of the fact that most people are not

1018
00:54:07,665 --> 00:54:14,135
going to apply to that job because
of the fact that they're allowing

1019
00:54:14,135 --> 00:54:17,885
themselves to be precluded, to be stuck
in that box like I've been talking

1020
00:54:17,885 --> 00:54:20,405
about now some Are there exceptions?

1021
00:54:20,555 --> 00:54:21,485
Absolutely.

1022
00:54:21,490 --> 00:54:22,145
Absolutely.

1023
00:54:22,145 --> 00:54:23,285
There's exceptions.

1024
00:54:23,345 --> 00:54:26,825
Some companies do require a degree
because the degree is required.

1025
00:54:26,825 --> 00:54:28,595
Sometimes it's because
of the field they're in.

1026
00:54:28,865 --> 00:54:32,255
Obviously, if you're gonna apply to
be a lawyer, an engineer, a doctor,

1027
00:54:32,765 --> 00:54:34,835
probably going to need a degree, right?

1028
00:54:35,235 --> 00:54:37,245
But that's not the majority of jobs.

1029
00:54:37,585 --> 00:54:41,625
All, all the, I tend to work with
creative professionals, sales, marketing,

1030
00:54:41,915 --> 00:54:44,334
tech, design, things like that.

1031
00:54:45,185 --> 00:54:49,125
Those jobs are very, can be
very lucrative, but that degree

1032
00:54:49,125 --> 00:54:51,674
requirement doesn't matter so much.

1033
00:54:52,285 --> 00:54:53,005
So that's the thing.

1034
00:54:53,194 --> 00:54:55,615
So take advantage of the fact
that most people think that it

1035
00:54:55,635 --> 00:54:59,695
does matter and don't let that
stop you from applying to the job.

1036
00:54:59,705 --> 00:55:01,925
But you do need to make sure
that your resume is on point.

1037
00:55:02,330 --> 00:55:04,510
But if it is, you're going
to get interviews to the

1038
00:55:04,510 --> 00:55:05,630
majority of jobs you apply to.

1039
00:55:07,700 --> 00:55:11,720
I know that one has had bitten
me hard before the automatically

1040
00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:13,070
precluding myself from something.

1041
00:55:14,590 --> 00:55:21,409
I've had a job in particular, I remember
where we were doing some, we worked

1042
00:55:21,409 --> 00:55:24,900
for a contracting company that serviced
this company, but they were doing some

1043
00:55:24,930 --> 00:55:28,890
internal hiring from that company to
fill some positions they had created.

1044
00:55:29,585 --> 00:55:34,755
And they actually, like the day they were
doing interviews, the HR team called me.

1045
00:55:34,755 --> 00:55:37,215
He was like, Hey, our name,
your name came across our desk.

1046
00:55:37,225 --> 00:55:38,514
You, I know we're doing interviews.

1047
00:55:38,514 --> 00:55:39,455
Do you want to go ahead and do this?

1048
00:55:39,514 --> 00:55:43,095
It's like, well, I didn't apply because
I don't meet all your requirements.

1049
00:55:43,095 --> 00:55:44,064
I didn't want to waste your time.

1050
00:55:45,165 --> 00:55:50,694
Like, I thought I was like being
respectful and honorable about not making

1051
00:55:50,694 --> 00:55:53,364
their life harder by just throwing another
resume they're just going to toss because

1052
00:55:53,364 --> 00:55:58,905
I didn't meet the requirements and then a
guy that I worked with, I was super more.

1053
00:56:01,155 --> 00:56:04,805
Uh, what's the nice way of putting
it, qualified, we'll go with that

1054
00:56:05,255 --> 00:56:09,515
much more qualified and better at my
job than got one of the positions.

1055
00:56:09,575 --> 00:56:12,834
And I knew he didn't have the
minimum requirements or anything

1056
00:56:12,835 --> 00:56:19,335
like that, but he got one of the
positions and I'm like, wait, um,

1057
00:56:20,665 --> 00:56:24,315
um, back up, how did this happen?

1058
00:56:24,544 --> 00:56:32,355
And I, I like, I kicked myself so hard
because I let this wishlist of this is our

1059
00:56:32,395 --> 00:56:39,555
perfect candidate, keep me, I mean, they
even called me and asked and I was stupid.

1060
00:56:39,555 --> 00:56:42,620
It was like, Oh, no, I
don't meet those terms.

1061
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:46,570
And then years later, I'm working
for another company, doing a lot

1062
00:56:46,570 --> 00:56:48,490
of the hiring for the job roles.

1063
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:53,779
But I'm looking at the job description
that our boss's boss put out.

1064
00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:57,360
I'm like, we can't afford this candidate.

1065
00:56:58,950 --> 00:57:01,570
This job is an entry level
job that we're hiring for.

1066
00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:05,120
We can't afford this candidate
at what you're willing to pay.

1067
00:57:05,170 --> 00:57:09,220
Like I'm looking at this
wishlist they had on there.

1068
00:57:09,220 --> 00:57:09,490
It's like.

1069
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,850
This is vastly, vastly
overqualified for this job.

1070
00:57:14,660 --> 00:57:16,320
This is the same way you
guys ended up with me.

1071
00:57:17,090 --> 00:57:19,290
And I was the highest
paid guy doing the job.

1072
00:57:19,630 --> 00:57:21,390
Like, this is, this is
how you ended up with me.

1073
00:57:21,390 --> 00:57:24,840
Is you posted a res, uh, something
like this and we got here and went,

1074
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:26,740
Oh, I don't need any of those skills.

1075
00:57:26,780 --> 00:57:27,170
Okay.

1076
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,570
You actually hit the
nail on the head there.

1077
00:57:31,609 --> 00:57:33,730
And I don't know if you realize
it or not, but you said you were,

1078
00:57:33,740 --> 00:57:37,020
you were kind of, um, speaking
from the employer's perspective.

1079
00:57:37,020 --> 00:57:39,660
And you said, here's this job
listing for the perfect candidate.

1080
00:57:40,060 --> 00:57:42,140
And, and that's the fallacy right there.

1081
00:57:42,140 --> 00:57:44,530
That a lot of people fall
into the trap of thinking is.

1082
00:57:45,305 --> 00:57:49,025
What they don't realize is, is
that's exactly the point is that when

1083
00:57:49,025 --> 00:57:53,845
you see a job listing, that is the
employer's ideal candidate, but they

1084
00:57:53,845 --> 00:57:55,265
know that they're not going to get it.

1085
00:57:55,335 --> 00:57:59,505
If you don't check 100 percent of the
boxes for every single little thing in

1086
00:57:59,505 --> 00:58:02,835
that job listing, that doesn't mean you're
not, you don't have a shot at the job.

1087
00:58:03,105 --> 00:58:08,995
Because again, you can speak to the
needs and requirements better than

1088
00:58:09,075 --> 00:58:12,225
anyone else applying to the job, then
you're going to get an interview.

1089
00:58:12,325 --> 00:58:16,055
You just will when you're in, that's how
you make yourself a 90 percent match.

1090
00:58:16,565 --> 00:58:20,545
You're, it's, it's, it's almost
like a, we, we tend to be very

1091
00:58:20,555 --> 00:58:22,425
apathetic in our job, job hunt.

1092
00:58:22,445 --> 00:58:29,455
Like, where else in life do we say
that 90 percent isn't good enough?

1093
00:58:30,665 --> 00:58:31,355
You know what I mean?

1094
00:58:31,835 --> 00:58:33,605
But that's how we treat job listings.

1095
00:58:33,614 --> 00:58:35,945
That's how we treat our
applications is like, oh, I don't

1096
00:58:35,945 --> 00:58:38,915
check those two boxes out of 40.

1097
00:58:39,375 --> 00:58:40,735
So I'm, I'm not qualified.

1098
00:58:41,055 --> 00:58:45,735
No, like apply to the freaking
job if that's the case.

1099
00:58:46,075 --> 00:58:47,734
It doesn't matter what
those two things are.

1100
00:58:47,735 --> 00:58:49,655
If it's a degree still apply to it.

1101
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:58,030
Again, obviously there's exceptions,
but they're the minority, um, just

1102
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,890
we're, we're allowing ourselves
to be restricted too much by this,

1103
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:03,459
like we've been talking about.

1104
00:59:04,390 --> 00:59:10,069
You mentioned LinkedIn as a platform,
um, and LinkedIn definitely has ups,

1105
00:59:10,210 --> 00:59:15,269
ups and downs like any other platform,
but in terms of networking, right,

1106
00:59:15,279 --> 00:59:17,770
because that's one of the things
LinkedIn really is, is it's a way

1107
00:59:17,770 --> 00:59:19,580
to connect with other professionals.

1108
00:59:20,645 --> 00:59:24,155
What are the most effective strategies
for building meaningful connections that

1109
00:59:24,155 --> 00:59:26,225
can help contribute to your career growth?

1110
00:59:26,595 --> 00:59:31,074
Because I know we like to pretend it's
not, but honest to God, so much of career

1111
00:59:31,074 --> 00:59:33,115
growth can happen because of who you know.

1112
00:59:34,355 --> 00:59:39,685
My, my break from construction to IT
was literally a who I know moment.

1113
00:59:39,784 --> 00:59:40,014
Yep.

1114
00:59:41,915 --> 00:59:44,395
I hate it when people say that phrase.

1115
00:59:44,685 --> 00:59:46,375
It's not about what you
know, but who you know.

1116
00:59:46,995 --> 00:59:51,005
And I don't hate that people say it
because of the fact that it's not true.

1117
00:59:51,844 --> 00:59:54,195
That act that there is some truth to it.

1118
00:59:54,490 --> 00:59:58,699
But here's the thing, it
may matter who you know.

1119
00:59:59,085 --> 01:00:03,335
But what doesn't matter is
how you know them, right?

1120
01:00:03,755 --> 01:00:07,385
So there's nothing, it's 2023, this
thing called the internet exists,

1121
01:00:07,385 --> 01:00:09,345
and there's a bazillion different
ways you can connect with someone.

1122
01:00:09,365 --> 01:00:12,455
There's a dozen different
social media platforms on its

1123
01:00:12,455 --> 01:00:13,975
own to connect with people.

1124
01:00:14,955 --> 01:00:16,375
There's nothing stopping
you from doing that.

1125
01:00:16,465 --> 01:00:19,365
But again, people allow
themselves to be precluded from

1126
01:00:19,365 --> 01:00:20,665
that because it takes effort.

1127
01:00:20,685 --> 01:00:22,745
It takes a little bit of intention, right?

1128
01:00:23,435 --> 01:00:27,835
But like I've been in the same room
with people like Aaron, uh, Alex

1129
01:00:27,835 --> 01:00:32,595
Rodriguez and Dave Ramsey and Gary
Vaynerchuk, if you guys know who that is.

1130
01:00:32,645 --> 01:00:37,635
And Logan Paul, like I've been in
the same room with these people

1131
01:00:37,635 --> 01:00:41,945
and been able to shake their hand
because I knew someone, right?

1132
01:00:42,155 --> 01:00:44,495
And again, well, yeah, Braxton,
but you're, you're privileged.

1133
01:00:45,255 --> 01:00:48,985
How does the homeschool kid that
grew up in a dysfunctional family

1134
01:00:48,985 --> 01:00:50,885
in a, in a conservative town.

1135
01:00:50,895 --> 01:00:50,915
Yeah.

1136
01:00:51,380 --> 01:00:55,760
Get that privilege like you want to
meet there's I had nothing going for me.

1137
01:00:56,130 --> 01:00:59,045
I It's this two faced
argument people have with me.

1138
01:00:59,065 --> 01:01:00,315
Well, you're privileged Braxton.

1139
01:01:00,445 --> 01:01:03,575
But on the flip side, they're like, you're
an idiot because you didn't go to school.

1140
01:01:03,705 --> 01:01:04,755
Well, which is it?

1141
01:01:04,845 --> 01:01:08,135
Because I get the same argument
from the same people, right?

1142
01:01:08,185 --> 01:01:09,335
Either I'm privileged or I'm not.

1143
01:01:09,335 --> 01:01:13,805
But it, it, I only get that,
the argument switches as soon

1144
01:01:13,805 --> 01:01:16,325
as it becomes inconvenient for
them to, you know what I mean?

1145
01:01:16,345 --> 01:01:17,435
I get it all the time.

1146
01:01:18,825 --> 01:01:22,055
No, the reason I got in the same
room with those people and was

1147
01:01:22,055 --> 01:01:25,750
able to shake their hand and have a
conversation with them, was because

1148
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,830
I first had a skill set, right?

1149
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:33,270
And I put myself out there to meet
the right people and make an effort.

1150
01:01:33,530 --> 01:01:34,280
And it takes time.

1151
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:35,810
It's not something that happens overnight.

1152
01:01:36,250 --> 01:01:37,750
There's no silver bullet to this.

1153
01:01:38,990 --> 01:01:41,930
Like it, in my background in marketing,
there's this concept about drip

1154
01:01:41,950 --> 01:01:46,850
marketing, which means it leverages
the concept that, you know, it takes

1155
01:01:46,850 --> 01:01:51,460
the average consumer eight touch points
to make a buying decision, right?

1156
01:01:51,860 --> 01:01:54,750
Well, that's all networking is, is
what are those touch points you're

1157
01:01:54,750 --> 01:01:56,400
making so that the right people.

1158
01:01:56,815 --> 01:01:57,905
recognize you.

1159
01:01:59,615 --> 01:02:01,265
So that's the first thing I
would help people understand.

1160
01:02:01,265 --> 01:02:04,725
It's like, yes, maybe it does
matter who you know, but it

1161
01:02:04,755 --> 01:02:05,915
doesn't matter how you know them.

1162
01:02:05,925 --> 01:02:09,425
So go out and freaking get to know
them and quit pitying yourself

1163
01:02:09,865 --> 01:02:12,845
because of the fact that you think
it matters that you weren't born

1164
01:02:12,845 --> 01:02:14,025
with this silver spoon in your mouth.

1165
01:02:15,075 --> 01:02:20,155
The other thing I would say is net
part of networking is being able to

1166
01:02:20,155 --> 01:02:23,065
establish yourself as an authority
in whatever it is that you do.

1167
01:02:23,605 --> 01:02:24,775
So the other side of it is.

1168
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,420
Okay, once you do start networking
with people, once you do start

1169
01:02:28,420 --> 01:02:33,520
making that effort to reach out to
them and get to know them, what are

1170
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,280
they going to see when you do that?

1171
01:02:35,590 --> 01:02:40,530
And so keep your LinkedIn updated, keep
like I always talk about using all of your

1172
01:02:40,530 --> 01:02:46,370
social media platforms as an opportunity
to talk about whatever that is.

1173
01:02:47,130 --> 01:02:50,860
So if you were to go on my
Facebook about three years ago,

1174
01:02:50,890 --> 01:02:52,690
I stopped posting personal stuff.

1175
01:02:53,100 --> 01:02:55,610
You don't see my photos of my
wife and my kids on my Facebook.

1176
01:02:55,650 --> 01:02:56,910
But you don't see me.

1177
01:02:58,790 --> 01:03:01,760
Oh, here's what I had for dinner
and taking silly photos of it.

1178
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:02,490
That's not what you see.

1179
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:03,460
You see me talking about.

1180
01:03:04,005 --> 01:03:07,305
And documenting what I'm doing
that's interesting in my, at

1181
01:03:07,305 --> 01:03:08,375
least what I think is interesting.

1182
01:03:08,375 --> 01:03:09,595
Maybe people don't think it's interesting.

1183
01:03:11,115 --> 01:03:17,255
Talk, use, use the channels available
to you for free to talk about your,

1184
01:03:17,315 --> 01:03:19,015
the authority you have in your space.

1185
01:03:19,365 --> 01:03:23,395
And if this is especially helpful,
if you want to make a career change,

1186
01:03:23,605 --> 01:03:24,985
again, that's something that I did.

1187
01:03:25,445 --> 01:03:29,955
The, one of the ways this is
going to sound so ridiculous, but

1188
01:03:30,005 --> 01:03:32,305
when I realized at 28 years old.

1189
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,230
That I wanted to be in marketing in tech.

1190
01:03:36,980 --> 01:03:41,590
Uh, the first thing I did was I tried
to find people in my area that would

1191
01:03:41,780 --> 01:03:45,720
come meet with me and allow me to
have like a silly seminar with them

1192
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,220
so I could talk about marketing.

1193
01:03:47,220 --> 01:03:51,900
So I could talk about business and
I rented a library for 25 bucks

1194
01:03:51,900 --> 01:03:55,280
an hour and five people in my
community came to hear Braxton talk.

1195
01:03:55,510 --> 01:03:56,140
Well, guess what?

1196
01:03:56,290 --> 01:04:01,710
That went on my resume because now
I can say I teach seminars, right?

1197
01:04:02,535 --> 01:04:04,545
But the employer, when you put that in
your resume, the employer doesn't need

1198
01:04:04,545 --> 01:04:08,795
to know that what you perceive it to be,
like how insignificant it may have been.

1199
01:04:08,845 --> 01:04:09,625
You taught a seminar.

1200
01:04:09,645 --> 01:04:10,075
You did it.

1201
01:04:10,075 --> 01:04:10,795
You checked that box.

1202
01:04:10,885 --> 01:04:11,465
Good for you.

1203
01:04:12,145 --> 01:04:13,165
That's all, that's all it takes.

1204
01:04:13,345 --> 01:04:16,525
So do things like that to
establish yourself as an authority.

1205
01:04:17,615 --> 01:04:21,835
And as you do enough of those, more
and more opportunities come to you

1206
01:04:21,865 --> 01:04:22,905
and they get bigger and bigger.

1207
01:04:23,185 --> 01:04:27,785
And so I went from being, uh, on
paper, quote unquote, and a stupid,

1208
01:04:27,805 --> 01:04:33,315
uneducated homeschool kid to being a
contributing partner to Monster Jobs.

1209
01:04:33,620 --> 01:04:37,350
To having clients that were
VPs at Reddit and Coinbase.

1210
01:04:37,660 --> 01:04:42,590
And I had, I had a client that was
a, um, correspondent at NBC News.

1211
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:47,550
Like, Israel, the people that Braxton,
the weird homeschool guy, works with

1212
01:04:47,550 --> 01:04:52,120
now, who has built trust with because
he established himself as an authority

1213
01:04:52,130 --> 01:04:57,300
over time and, uh, made an effort
to get to know the right people.

1214
01:05:00,070 --> 01:05:02,390
There, there's so much to unpack to that.

1215
01:05:02,430 --> 01:05:04,390
I, ah.

1216
01:05:05,110 --> 01:05:07,860
I love it when my guests say things
that it's like, I'm not even sure

1217
01:05:07,870 --> 01:05:09,780
how to follow that up entirely.

1218
01:05:10,650 --> 01:05:15,510
Uh, because I, I know that our listeners
are getting incredible value out of that.

1219
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:21,160
So let's switch gears just a
hair with, you know, how do we

1220
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,230
start to identify and address?

1221
01:05:23,230 --> 01:05:24,550
Cause you already touched
on it a little bit.

1222
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,870
So that leads in with this one, finally,
how do we start to address those

1223
01:05:27,890 --> 01:05:32,040
potential gaps that may be hindering
where we want to go with our career

1224
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,690
set with our career progression?

1225
01:05:34,230 --> 01:05:36,220
Uh, what, what steps do we start taking?

1226
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,040
Obviously, like the whole library
thing, that was brilliant, by

1227
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:40,820
the way, just, just saying.

1228
01:05:40,980 --> 01:05:41,320
Thank you.

1229
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,320
Do, who, that, like, that's just it.

1230
01:05:44,330 --> 01:05:45,150
Do silly things.

1231
01:05:45,150 --> 01:05:45,980
Do you want to fill a gap?

1232
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:46,950
Do silly things.

1233
01:05:47,780 --> 01:05:49,100
What, I'll put it this way.

1234
01:05:50,530 --> 01:05:53,480
Whether you think they feel silly or
not, maybe they are, maybe, like, it

1235
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:58,650
sounds silly that I went to a library,
I paid money out of pocket to teach a

1236
01:05:58,650 --> 01:06:00,350
seminar to five people that showed up.

1237
01:06:00,580 --> 01:06:05,130
And I taught, I literally
grabbed my iMac, my desktop iMac.

1238
01:06:05,610 --> 01:06:06,000
And I.

1239
01:06:06,610 --> 01:06:10,230
That's what I carried into the library
in the room to do the presentation on

1240
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:11,190
because I didn't have anything else.

1241
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:12,120
Like that's what I use.

1242
01:06:13,220 --> 01:06:15,220
It doesn't matter because then
that gives you the credential.

1243
01:06:16,010 --> 01:06:18,910
The whole thing about job hunting
and even in business with what

1244
01:06:18,910 --> 01:06:20,480
I do is about building trust.

1245
01:06:21,350 --> 01:06:24,650
In business we say people buy from you
when they know, like, and trust you.

1246
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,500
It's the same thing with employers.

1247
01:06:26,500 --> 01:06:28,170
They hire you when they
know, like, and trust you.

1248
01:06:29,070 --> 01:06:34,470
Um, so like it's important that
people understand like there's

1249
01:06:34,470 --> 01:06:35,440
just so much opportunity.

1250
01:06:35,970 --> 01:06:39,390
Um, so some quick tips
in terms of filling gaps.

1251
01:06:39,550 --> 01:06:48,205
Like Uh, in your resume, list your
experience in order of relevance, not

1252
01:06:48,595 --> 01:06:51,245
chronologically, which sounds crazy.

1253
01:06:51,415 --> 01:06:53,215
And it's, it, is it a deal breaker?

1254
01:06:53,255 --> 01:06:54,975
No, but it's one of
those things that helps.

1255
01:06:55,235 --> 01:06:58,215
So if you have experience from 10
years ago, it's more relevant to a

1256
01:06:58,215 --> 01:07:00,435
job you're applying to now because
maybe you realize you want to go back

1257
01:07:00,435 --> 01:07:02,075
in that field or whatever, do that.

1258
01:07:03,485 --> 01:07:05,745
And then just, and you want
to make sure it's obvious that

1259
01:07:05,755 --> 01:07:07,045
like the tenure and stuff.

1260
01:07:07,085 --> 01:07:10,315
But, um, so there's a quick tip, um,

1261
01:07:13,435 --> 01:07:14,805
there's just so much opportunity.

1262
01:07:14,805 --> 01:07:17,005
I, I always, I honestly
just go right back to like.

1263
01:07:17,985 --> 01:07:23,495
What are you going to do to show people
that they can know, like, and trust

1264
01:07:23,495 --> 01:07:28,095
you and those opportunities to do that?

1265
01:07:32,055 --> 01:07:33,955
My, my, I'm trying to stay focused.

1266
01:07:33,965 --> 01:07:35,685
My brain is just going through my resume.

1267
01:07:35,685 --> 01:07:37,465
I'm going, I need to fix this.

1268
01:07:37,485 --> 01:07:38,615
I need to fix this now.

1269
01:07:41,475 --> 01:07:43,715
Guys, I hope you're getting
as much out of this as I am.

1270
01:07:43,715 --> 01:07:47,265
Cause I'm, I'm, I am, I'm just tearing
apart my resume in my head going, man,

1271
01:07:47,265 --> 01:07:48,415
I thought I had this put together.

1272
01:07:48,505 --> 01:07:50,735
I really got some work to do now.

1273
01:07:52,405 --> 01:07:54,515
Braxton, what's, what's next for you?

1274
01:07:54,955 --> 01:07:56,485
But what's the big projects on the line?

1275
01:07:57,125 --> 01:08:01,315
Oh man, I'm, I'm always working
on more courses for my clients.

1276
01:08:01,435 --> 01:08:06,975
Um, I, it's funny, my sales guy jokes that
I'm the Willy Wonka of career development.

1277
01:08:07,205 --> 01:08:10,985
And because I'm handing out golden tickets
to the best jobs is how he puts it.

1278
01:08:11,575 --> 01:08:13,965
Um, and so it's me just
leaning more into that.

1279
01:08:13,965 --> 01:08:19,675
But I also, um, because of the blessing
of the, the partnerships I've had and

1280
01:08:19,685 --> 01:08:22,035
the following that I have, um, I had a.

1281
01:08:23,385 --> 01:08:26,215
Um, a literary agency in New York
reached out to me and basically said,

1282
01:08:26,215 --> 01:08:27,425
if you write a book, we'll sell it.

1283
01:08:27,655 --> 01:08:30,135
And so I'm currently working on
a book right now that kind of

1284
01:08:31,115 --> 01:08:32,885
condenses all these principles.

1285
01:08:33,465 --> 01:08:34,395
Um, so stay tuned.

1286
01:08:34,405 --> 01:08:36,795
I wish I could tell everyone
that it's ready and go here and

1287
01:08:36,795 --> 01:08:37,855
stuff, but I don't, it's not.

1288
01:08:38,245 --> 01:08:39,515
So we're working on that now.

1289
01:08:40,135 --> 01:08:44,495
Um, but like I, in a way I kind of view
myself almost, and I'm not even a huge

1290
01:08:44,495 --> 01:08:47,915
fan of Dave Ramsey, honestly, but I
kind of view myself as the Dave Ramsey

1291
01:08:47,915 --> 01:08:54,925
of career development because I, I've
seemed to do something most people don't

1292
01:08:54,925 --> 01:09:00,295
do, which is give a methodical step by
step process to you getting the job you

1293
01:09:00,295 --> 01:09:02,975
want and doing it on your own terms.

1294
01:09:03,655 --> 01:09:06,415
Um, so it's me more leaning into that.

1295
01:09:06,925 --> 01:09:09,685
Like I, I, I honestly believe like.

1296
01:09:10,195 --> 01:09:14,745
My story and what I teach people
belongs on like a cable television

1297
01:09:14,745 --> 01:09:15,565
network or something like that.

1298
01:09:15,575 --> 01:09:20,975
So in terms of like big very audacious
goals, that's where everything I'm doing

1299
01:09:21,045 --> 01:09:29,515
is to be able to spread my message more
in this process and this method more and

1300
01:09:29,515 --> 01:09:33,095
that's the long term goal because get
more eyeballs on it and My whole goal

1301
01:09:33,095 --> 01:09:35,535
is to upend the hiring industry really.

1302
01:09:36,395 --> 01:09:41,005
And to empower the, the job seeker, the
employee by finding the job that they

1303
01:09:41,005 --> 01:09:45,845
want, that they deserve but don't know how
to get until they bet on themselves and

1304
01:09:46,285 --> 01:09:47,565
find a way to do it on their own terms.

1305
01:09:48,725 --> 01:09:51,005
Braxton, what's the best place
for people to connect with you?

1306
01:09:52,755 --> 01:09:54,985
If you go to braxtonwood.

1307
01:09:55,155 --> 01:10:00,765
vip, um, that's where kind of
like all my socials are, it's

1308
01:10:00,765 --> 01:10:02,245
where my program is, my website.

1309
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:03,590
Braxtonwood.

1310
01:10:03,650 --> 01:10:05,330
VIP and everything about me is there.

1311
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,070
I'm adding that to my list for you.

1312
01:10:13,350 --> 01:10:16,450
Guys, I'm adding that to my list,
so that way you will have every

1313
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:17,880
connection point with Braxton.

1314
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,900
That will be down in the show notes
or the description, whichever platform

1315
01:10:21,900 --> 01:10:23,350
you're actually enjoying this on.

1316
01:10:24,710 --> 01:10:28,730
I highly encourage you, just, just, if
nothing else, follow him on social media

1317
01:10:28,730 --> 01:10:30,490
because you're going to get great tips.

1318
01:10:30,955 --> 01:10:34,355
I'm not even a big TikTok fan, but
you're going to find some really great

1319
01:10:34,365 --> 01:10:41,085
tips on there that will help you in
this industry that just is outside

1320
01:10:41,085 --> 01:10:42,375
the comfort zone for a lot of us.

1321
01:10:43,005 --> 01:10:43,455
Right.

1322
01:10:43,755 --> 01:10:47,895
Um, it's been eye opening,
looking for a job again for

1323
01:10:47,895 --> 01:10:49,115
the first time in over a year.

1324
01:10:49,665 --> 01:10:52,815
Uh, I haven't been out of the
professional circle that long, but

1325
01:10:52,815 --> 01:10:55,425
I've been with my previous company
for like eight years before that.

1326
01:10:56,145 --> 01:11:01,935
And so I've been out of the hiring for
going on like 14 years or something now.

1327
01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:05,910
Because literally I walked from one
job to the next I was recruited.

1328
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,870
And so getting back
into looking for a job.

1329
01:11:10,870 --> 01:11:15,470
It's like, I know so many people
are so frustrated because they don't

1330
01:11:15,530 --> 01:11:17,770
understand the game as you termed it.

1331
01:11:19,020 --> 01:11:21,230
And so I think this is going
to help a lot of people.

1332
01:11:21,230 --> 01:11:24,880
And you guys can follow Braxton
for more tips and insights or go

1333
01:11:24,970 --> 01:11:27,830
work with Braxton and we'll have
all those links available for you.

1334
01:11:28,510 --> 01:11:30,910
Now, I know you guys
are all concerned about.

1335
01:11:31,785 --> 01:11:35,225
What country James Bond
girl Lea Seydoux is from?

1336
01:11:36,375 --> 01:11:37,525
You guessed France.

1337
01:11:37,565 --> 01:11:41,265
The answer is in fact France
With a name like that.

1338
01:11:41,265 --> 01:11:44,745
I hope I'm not sure.

1339
01:11:44,745 --> 01:11:49,235
I've seen that suffix on many
names that aren't French, right?

1340
01:11:49,635 --> 01:11:52,085
But hey, congratulations
on some Bond trivia.

1341
01:11:52,115 --> 01:11:53,615
I'm a James Bond fan.

1342
01:11:53,845 --> 01:11:58,300
Although I'm behind on the newer
ones I, I'm a, I'm a Sean Connery

1343
01:11:58,300 --> 01:12:01,210
guy, Sean Connery and Pierce Brosnan.

1344
01:12:01,210 --> 01:12:02,700
Those are my favorite Bonds.

1345
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,330
I love James Bond as a kid.

1346
01:12:06,330 --> 01:12:09,100
Like we, those were always the
movies we rented at Blockbuster.

1347
01:12:09,330 --> 01:12:13,230
And we wanted to have a movie night as
a kid, so I was hoping I got that one.

1348
01:12:13,230 --> 01:12:13,420
Right.

1349
01:12:13,430 --> 01:12:15,770
Back when you could still
rent movies from Blockbuster.

1350
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:16,890
Right.

1351
01:12:18,450 --> 01:12:19,840
That that's going to
become one of those memes.

1352
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,240
One of these days, I think
I've actually seen it.

1353
01:12:22,250 --> 01:12:27,740
You know, I'm this old Saturday,
Friday nights going to the video store.

1354
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,980
Braxton, if our audience hears
nothing else today from this

1355
01:12:33,980 --> 01:12:37,290
whole conversation, what do you
want them to take away and hear?

1356
01:12:39,860 --> 01:12:43,470
Something that I coach people on and I'm
very vocal about in my content is that

1357
01:12:44,750 --> 01:12:48,270
if you're feeling discouraged in your
career or in your, in your life, in your

1358
01:12:48,270 --> 01:12:53,740
livelihood, and you're wondering why
opportunities aren't coming to you, just

1359
01:12:53,750 --> 01:12:56,650
know that there is nothing wrong with you.

1360
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,510
If there's anything wrong,
it's probably just in the way

1361
01:13:00,510 --> 01:13:01,500
you're presenting yourself.

1362
01:13:01,590 --> 01:13:02,820
And that's an easy fix.

1363
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:03,910
And that's what we help people do.

1364
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:10,160
Guys with that, on behalf of The
Fallible Man and Braxton Wood, be better

1365
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:11,410
tomorrow because of what you do today.

1366
01:13:11,420 --> 01:13:12,120
And we'll see you soon.

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