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Breathe, Write, Rewire: Experiencing the Life-Altering Impact of Storywork Coaching

Struggling with inner turmoil, stress, or just feeling stuck? This podcast episode may have the key to shifting your mindset. Diving into the transformative methodology of “story work,” host Brent interviews master coach Dave Robinson about this powe...

Struggling with inner turmoil, stress, or just feeling stuck? This podcast episode may have the key to shifting your mindset.

Diving into the transformative methodology of “story work,” host Brent interviews master coach Dave Robinson about this powerful self-talk reframing process. Tracing Dave’s winding career journey through coaching, finance, and even a failed retreat in Mexico, we learn what ultimately led him to discover his life’s purpose in story work.


Stepping into a real-time demonstration, Dave skillfully guides Brent through identifying core money anxieties and reshaping those internal narratives in a way that dramatically shifts Brent’s outlook in mere minutes.

Through this raw coaching exchange, listeners gain deep insight into what makes story work uniquely effective at catalyzing change:

● The structured process of writing out limiting stories calms the nervous system, creating space to gain objectivity about our own thought patterns

● Verbally recounting traumatic or difficult experiences enables us to literally hear things from a different, more detached perspective

● Strategically reframing negative “I should” statements into positive “I can” affirmations lifts away layers of pressure and blame

● Adding intentional breathing to reading transformed narratives helps anchor them as newly empowered beliefs

If you find yourself struggling with any of the following, this episode may provide a pivotal perspective shift:

● Beating yourself up with a persistent inner critic
● Living in financial lack or scarcity mindsets
● Feeling haunted by past traumatic experiences
● Being stuck in negative thought loops or overwhelm

As Dave reminds us, “Our words impact our breath. Our breath drives our physiology.” Are you ready to harness the power of story work to drive lasting transformation from the inside out? Tune in now.

Guest Links:

https://www.workyourstories.com/

https://www.instagram.com/daverobinson.coach/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/workyourstories

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Transcript
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Welcome to the Fallible Man podcast.

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At the end of this episode,
you'll know what story work is.

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If you didn't know what it was before,
you'll understand how it works and how

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it could possibly apply to your life.

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And if it's something you are actually
interested in utilizing and for the first

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time ever on the show, You can experience
a live story work coaching session with

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our guest Dave Robinson as he coaches me
directly and you indirectly because you

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can play along as you listen and you can
see what story work does in real time.

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And if it's something that would
be worth your time or something

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you think might help you.

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Dave also has an incredible
offer for our audience.

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So be sure to stick around through
the end, check out this thought

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from Dave and let's get into it.

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Breathe, breathe.

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There's my, my favorite quote
is a Viktor Frankl quote.

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He wrote man search for
meaning tremendous book.

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If you haven't read it, um, in between
stimulus and response, there is a

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space in that space is our power to
choose our response and our response

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lies, our growth and our freedom.

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So in between stimulus, what happens
to you response, how you respond.

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There's a space that I like to call
the wedge, and any, any personal

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development work is all about expanding
that wedge between the stuff that

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happens to you and how you react.

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And in that wedge, no matter how big
or small that wedge is, you can always,

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you can always take a breath.

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And that will change how you react,
whether you do that at work, you do

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that at home when you're dealing with
your kids or your spouse, whether

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you're working through something
super positive or super negative.

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Anything in between.

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Breathe and your life will change.

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Here's the million dollar question.

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How do men like us reach our full
potential, grow into the men we

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dream of being, while taking care
of our responsibilities, working,

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being good husbands, fathers,
and still take care of ourselves?

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Well, that's the big question.

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In this podcast, we'll help you
answer those questions and more.

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My name is Brent, and welcome
to the Fallible Man Podcast.

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Welcome to the album, man podcast, your
home for all things, man, husband, and

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father, big shout out to fallible nation.

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That's our private community.

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And there's links down in the description
or the show notes, wherever you're viewing

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this or listening to this show guys,
warm welcome to our first time listeners.

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Hey, if you're just checking
us out for the first time.

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I know there's a lot
competing for your attention.

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So thanks for checking us out.

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I'd love to hear what you think about it.

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You can reach me at the fallible
man on almost any social media

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platform or leave us review.

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Tell us what you thought of the show.

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I'd love to check that out.

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My name is Brent today.

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My special guest is master
story work coach, Dave Robinson.

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Dave, welcome to the
valuable man podcast brand.

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Thank you for having me, man.

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I am pumped to chat with you
and your audience and have an

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awesome conversation today, man.

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This is going to be good, man.

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I'm, I'm, I'm excited for this one,
but we like to start pretty light days.

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So how's your trivia?

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It depends on the subject matter.

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So we'll find out.

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That's fair.

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That's fair.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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How long did dinosaurs live on the earth?

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Is it a 100 to 150 million years,
be 150 to 200 million years.

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See 200 plus million years are D.

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Never.

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I like your D never answer, but I'm
not going to go with that as the final.

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Uh, I'm going to go see
longer than 200 million years.

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All right, guys, you know, the rules.

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Don't cheat.

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Don't go ahead.

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Don't look it up, play
along for God's sake.

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Don't write it down if you're driving.

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And we'll come back to
that later in the show.

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Now, Dave, in this moment,
just today, nothing else.

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Who is Dave Robinson in your own words?

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Dave Robinson is a man who
inspires others by helping people

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to enter the depths of their own.

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Inner cave and fight
their own inner dragon.

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Um, Dave is a man who loves nature,
loves impact, and is stoked to be alive.

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Dave, are you a Harry Potter person?

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My two sisters are, my two sisters are.

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Um, I'm not as much of
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I'm, I'm privy to Harry Potter.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Well, at the beginning, your first
year in, in Hogwarts, the sorting

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hat puts you into one of four houses.

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Do you know the houses?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't know the houses.

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The houses are Slytherin,
Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, or Ravenclaw.

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Which house would the
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Ravenclaw sounds pretty tight.

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Yeah.

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And I don't know whether
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Okay.

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Perfect.

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I'll take, I'll take the Ravenclaw then.

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That sounds, that sounds cool
for not knowing about that.

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You're doing good, right?

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In the zombie apocalypse.

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What's your weapon of choice?

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Uh, my zombie apocalypse weapon
of choice is my 12 gate Mossberg.

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Okay.

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In the bathroom may or
may not actually be there.

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We'll go with the may.

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And, uh, yeah, that's probably
what I'm going to grab.

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It's an interesting place to keep
it, but yeah, you never know.

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You never know.

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There are others elsewhere.

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Uh, and I feel like that's the middle of.

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The house situation.

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And I was thinking one day I was
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shower or something like that?

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You know, like I gotta have
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So that's, that's where my mind went.

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No, no little plexiglass box with
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Yeah, no, no, no, no.

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Thank you.

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I, my first thought though, was I, I.

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Um, I have a recurve bow.

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Like I really love shooting bows
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shot a compound bow, but, um, my
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70 year old cherry wood recurve.

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And I have had such a joy shooting that.

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And, um, I'd like to say I would be.

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Good enough to, you know, pick heads off
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it's probably not going to be the case.

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And so I went with the more modern,
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heart, I'm, I'm a Lord of the Rings guy.

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And I'm just like picking
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you know, with my recurve bow.

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So, well, you can't go
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I love my Mossberg.

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Uh, but I feel you on the bow.

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I actually learned how to
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Um, I have a nice compound bow for
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regular bows, recurve bows.

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And then eventually, like I was, I
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bows, uh, but we just actually
finished rewatching the Lord of the

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Rings, the movies with my daughters.

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It's awesome.

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They love Legolas.

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Like they are so interested in
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Good for them.

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And good for him.

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You know, I think he inspired
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it's a, it's fantastic.

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They got to shoot him at girl scout camp.

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Now they both want bows.

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It was like, okay, it's a
good problem to have, man.

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It's a really good problem to have.

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Yeah.

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As a father, yeah.

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Drinks, coffee, tea, energy
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Coffee.

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I'm a coffee guy.

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My, uh, my fiance, Ruslana, uh, actually
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And so I would sneak my way over there
whenever I could to pay by, you know,

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hang out with her more and get her
coffees and smoothies and stuff like that.

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And so, uh, I am.

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Drinking a coffee right now.

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It's actually her old, her old coffee mug.

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Her, uh, shop was called Pulp Fiction.

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And then she got a nice cease
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know, Hollywood or whatever it is.

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And so she, Changed her name
to pulp RVA, which Richmond,

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Virginia, where we're from.

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So, um, I'm a coffee guy.

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They suck, man.

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I would take that as like flattery.

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That's what I thought.

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It's like, it's coffee, not movie.

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It's totally different.

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I thought the trademarks didn't have to
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not a battle she wanted to fight.

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I don't blame her.

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Yeah.

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I'm not sure I'd take them
to the movie studios myself.

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Right.

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They, they, they don't
have a sense of humor.

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No, not in the least.

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What purchase of a
hundred dollars of less?

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Or less have you made in
the last year that's had the

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biggest impact on your life?

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Great question.

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Um, I'm a, I'm a gear guy, right?

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And, uh, I have bought a lot of gloves,
like good, good, I've run too, right?

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So like good running gloves.

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You know, and I think that there's
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It's just bad gear.

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So I've got like good hats.

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I've got good gloves.

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And, um, there's an outdoor company
called O R I don't know whether you

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say that or, or it's just, or, uh,
I don't know, but, uh, I think it

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stands for like outdoor recreation,
but don't quote me on that one.

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I'm not a hundred percent positive.

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Um, but I got a couple of their gloves
and it's just, you know, it's winter

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time here and there's, it's perfect.

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It's just, it's great.

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So if you have poor weather where
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able to go outside and the elements.

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No, I've, I've lived in Norfolk.

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How's the weather
comparatively in Richland?

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It is, um, It's cold.

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We're having a cold winter and, you
know, obviously cold is relative, uh, all

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things considered, you know, if it's below
freezing Fahrenheit, it's cold to me.

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And, you know, we've been dipping
down into the tens and twenties at

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night so much so that, um, our, we
have, we've raised rabbits on our

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little homestead for meat and, and
fertilizer and things like that.

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And all their, their Uh, I got to
buy new bottles for everybody because

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they've all frozen and cracked and, you
know, we're going out there and pouring

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almost boiling hot water into the,
their new little tin water containers

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to melt out the ice and get it so
they can actually drink their water.

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So, you know, we're, it's cold,
man, but it's, well, springs

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are coming as it always does.

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So I'm excited.

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Eventually it's going to get there.

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Yeah.

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What is your best playground?

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Insult?

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Oh man.

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Playground insult.

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So this is pg, uh, or g?

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Um, I feel like it's gotta
be a yo mama type situation.

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Joke, you know, I don't know any good
yo mama jokes anymore, but I think,

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uh, response to anything with yo mama.

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Mm-Hmm, is probably, uh, adequate.

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Playground fire upper, you know, like
that's going to escalate the situation

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regardless of what was said or anything,
you know Yo mama response for sure.

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Yeah, let me guess over 35.

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I am 35 36 next week

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Well done Sorry, there's a whole
generation where those were The answer.

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And then they kind of like
disappeared, which blew my mind.

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Cause I'm riding the ride.

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I'm 44.

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I just hit, I'm riding that age
group of that was like, I remember

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when your mama jokes became a thing.

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And were for years.

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And it was, it was the ultimate,
like upper, someone would

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say something about your mom.

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Yeah.

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Oh my God.

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That hit me in my chest.

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Just you doing that right there,
you know, those are fighting words.

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That's that's fantastic.

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I might bring them back on social
media, you know, to haters.

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That'd be good.

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Thing is like.

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You get below 30 and they
wouldn't get it at all.

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It's not, it's not a knock
on, on that generation.

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It's just right.

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Certain things hit with certain
generations with the way people's

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outlooks are and attitudes are much
below 30, they're gonna be like.

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What's that even supposed to mean?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, my second answer, which was like
a G 13 answer was the triple X, the, the

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socket like that, that would, that would
absolutely be, you know, up there as well.

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Uh, cause I don't know how that
swept the nation, but it sure did.

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So if you could go back and give
your 18 year old self one piece

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of advice, what would it be?

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Don't go to college.

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I like it.

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Yeah.

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Um, travel instead.

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I feel like it was a, all things
considered, you know, I graduated, I

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have a, I've got a degree, you know,
I've et cetera, et cetera, et cetera,

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but all things considered looking back,
it was not worth the money that I spent.

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And, uh, nor was I, do I feel like it
was worth the four years of my prime time

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life to go and just, you know, Party and,
you know, mess around and study stuff

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that I didn't really give a crap about.

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And so, uh, I would have traveled instead.

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You party?

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No.

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No.

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Not in college.

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No.

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That doesn't happen.

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That's just in the movies.

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Right.

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And it's because it's in the
movies that it ends up happening.

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That's, that's, we're coming
back to Hollywood here.

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You know, yeah, it's like hypnotherapy.

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It's just in the movies.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Free show joke.

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Sorry.

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Sorry.

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If you guys have been around the show
before, you know, I, uh, I actually did

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a show with a hypnotherapist and she
was very gracious when I made that joke.

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Uh, so shout out to her for that.

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What is one totally random fact
that people don't know about you?

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Totally random fact that
people don't know about me.

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Um, well I would say the rabbits,
but I already spoiled that one.

303
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Um, I hate baseball.

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I know that's going to, yeah,
people are going to hit ends.

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You know, there's a small
segment of the population is,

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you know, let's screw this guy.

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You know, but I just, I, I hate baseball.

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I grew up a soccer player.

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Um, my best friend, five houses down,
also named Dave, since I was eight

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years old, was a huge baseball player.

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And his dad tried to get me to play over
and over and over and over and over again.

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It just was, you know, I played a
ton of sports growing up and I just

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couldn't stand it and I still, to
this day, I probably go to like,

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we've got a double way team here.

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And I go to one game every half dozen
years just for the sake of like, you know,

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just poking around and checking it out
and I show up in like the third inning

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and I'll leave by like the seventh inning
and I'm like, Oh, that's enough baseball

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for the next half dozen years, dude.

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So, yeah, I am just not a baseball guy.

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You know, I, I totally get you.

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I, I had a friend who's actually a
professional pitcher and I, he'd come

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to Washington and His team would come to
Washington and play against the Mariners,

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and I wouldn't even go for his games.

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I don't like you that much, dude.

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I'm not driving to Seattle and
paying that price and sitting

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there for that long for that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm gonna have to like,
wave at you for two minutes.

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I can, I can jump on a Zoom call with you.

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Catch me afterwards.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Let me know where y'all are going.

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I'll see you there.

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Yeah.

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That type of situation.

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I went to, uh, event someone put
on, they were like trying to get,

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uh, I used to be a youth minister.

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And so they were trying to connect
with local youth ministers,

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uh, for their mission project.

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And they, they got like the
big box and stuff like that.

343
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So my wife and I went because
I'd never been in a box, right?

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And free food.

345
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Yeah.

346
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Free food, box seats.

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The best part of the whole game was like
the, the field crew, like did this, like

348
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coordinated dance on the diamond as they
were straightening it up between Indians,

349
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best part of the whole game, right?

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A hundred percent, a hundred percent.

351
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We do, um, uh, there's the local
team, like in and around July 4th,

352
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it's like the June 30th to July
10th games all have fireworks.

353
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And, uh, when I was in, in.

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High school or probably middle school.

355
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My dad would drag us to,
to that is like a twofer.

356
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It's like, I took you to a, an event
and there's free fireworks here.

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So, you know, it was like a kill
two birds with one stone situation.

358
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But I, I totally can appreciate
a hundred percent now.

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Um, I have since gotten privy to that, to
the, the, the idea that there's fireworks

360
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here and there's our favorite ice cream
joint is just right down the road.

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And so now what we'll do is we'll go
and get ice cream and just kind of walk

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up the hill a little bit about 9 30 on,
you know, July, Second, third, fourth,

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fifth, sixth, something like that.

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Don't need to go to the game.

365
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Don't need to pay anything
other than for the ice cream.

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And then we get to watch the
fireworks and then go home.

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And that is my hack of,
of Richmond, Virginia.

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If you ever come and visit around that
timeframe, that's, that's what to do.

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I dig it.

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That's a, that's a much better solution.

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Eat ice cream and watch that.

372
00:17:33,585 --> 00:17:34,905
It's hard to hire fireworks.

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Good point.

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00:17:37,085 --> 00:17:37,504
Good point.

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What's something everyone should
know about you before we dig

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into the meat of today's show?

377
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Crushing it with these
with these questions, man.

378
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Um, I Have found my hedgehog.

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I have found my hedgehog.

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It's a concept by Jim Collins who wrote
good to great and The hedgehog is the

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intersection think of a Venn diagram
The hedgehog is the intersection of the

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thing that you love to do that you not
that you like not that you good at You

383
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know the thing that you love to do that
you would do for free but also drives

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your economic engine or fills your
economic reservoir and the third thing

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is This thing has to be something that
you were born for, created for, or could

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one day be the best in the world at.

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And, uh, that for me is story work.

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Uh, it wasn't, you know, coaching in a
D1 strength and conditioning department.

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It wasn't, um, you
know, fitness or health.

390
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It wasn't financial planning.

391
00:18:41,010 --> 00:18:45,330
It wasn't any myriad number of other
things that I've, I've hats that

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I've jobs that I've done, et cetera.

393
00:18:47,330 --> 00:18:51,730
Um, I never either loved it or You
know, like I love soccer, like, but

394
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no one's paying me to play soccer.

395
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Like, that's not the hedgehog, right?

396
00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,520
I have to pay twice a year, 80 now.

397
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No, they raised it to 90 last fall.

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So 90 twice a year for the privilege
of playing soccer with my friends.

399
00:19:03,189 --> 00:19:04,630
You know, so that's not
the hedgehog, right?

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But this, this story work is my hedgehog.

401
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So I.

402
00:19:08,620 --> 00:19:11,590
When you hear us talk about
this, I truly love this.

403
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And it's something that I'm going
to do for the rest of my life.

404
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:15,160
Awesome.

405
00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:16,790
Awesome guys.

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00:19:16,790 --> 00:19:20,070
We've been getting no Dave so far
and just who he is, what he's about

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a little bit about his personality.

408
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Next part of the show.

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We're going to dive into Dave's story.

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What is story work?

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Since that's what we're
talking about today.

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How can it help you was
beneficial, et cetera, et cetera.

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We just spent some time getting to
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he's like, and this part of the show,
we're going to dive into Dave's story.

445
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And what, what is story work?

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We're talking about story work
today and how it can help you.

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A bit.

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When Dave and I connected, I
honestly, that was my first question.

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It's like, what the hell is story work?

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I have no idea.

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So we're going to dig into that
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00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,669
about it, because I think it's
going to be really important and

453
00:21:29,020 --> 00:21:30,569
really relative to your life.

454
00:21:30,929 --> 00:21:34,520
So Dave, tell us your story, right?

455
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,029
You, you mentioned a couple
of different things in the

456
00:21:37,030 --> 00:21:38,629
previous portion of the show.

457
00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:42,219
Uh, you, you have a background
of jobs like myself.

458
00:21:42,219 --> 00:21:45,169
You've been through several
and you landed in this.

459
00:21:45,900 --> 00:21:47,780
You're, you started out
as a teacher, right?

460
00:21:47,890 --> 00:21:50,040
So tell us the story of Dave Robinson.

461
00:21:51,330 --> 00:21:51,560
Yeah.

462
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,690
So I, um, I looking back, I've
always been in the service industry.

463
00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,669
I've always wanted to impart
knowledge or, or teach or coach

464
00:22:00,669 --> 00:22:02,099
or advise in some capacity.

465
00:22:02,389 --> 00:22:03,480
Um, I've been an athlete.

466
00:22:03,645 --> 00:22:05,825
my my whole life, but
never really a good one.

467
00:22:05,915 --> 00:22:08,675
I've been more multifaceted
and well rounded.

468
00:22:08,675 --> 00:22:14,145
So if you baseball side, you put a
sports ball or item in front of me,

469
00:22:14,145 --> 00:22:18,235
I'm gonna look like I've at least
done it a couple times in the past.

470
00:22:18,265 --> 00:22:21,650
And so I was always athletic.

471
00:22:21,650 --> 00:22:27,760
I feel like I've got enough of
the ADHD in me to be a jack of

472
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,529
all trades and a master of few.

473
00:22:29,540 --> 00:22:32,290
I don't like the phrase master
of none, but a master of few.

474
00:22:32,660 --> 00:22:37,779
And I actually went to college to
be a high school history teacher.

475
00:22:38,319 --> 00:22:42,774
And Again, in the previous segment,
you know that my true thoughts was I

476
00:22:42,774 --> 00:22:45,504
should have just traveled the world
for four years during that time frame.

477
00:22:45,504 --> 00:22:50,744
But, uh, I found out a couple
weeks before I graduated as I was

478
00:22:50,745 --> 00:22:52,244
applying to master's programs.

479
00:22:52,245 --> 00:22:56,855
I had the realization, the download,
the, the come to Jesus moment,

480
00:22:56,855 --> 00:23:00,619
the, you know, finally listened
to my gut of like, ah, I did it.

481
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,570
don't really want to do this.

482
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,490
And I realized that I didn't want to
be the teacher that only wanted to

483
00:23:07,490 --> 00:23:12,340
have his summers off and coach high
school soccer and, you know, connect

484
00:23:12,340 --> 00:23:13,939
with, with the students, right?

485
00:23:13,939 --> 00:23:18,749
I, like, I didn't care about the
subject matter at all whatsoever.

486
00:23:19,060 --> 00:23:20,619
Um, I could read, I could write.

487
00:23:20,619 --> 00:23:21,469
That's why I chose it.

488
00:23:21,509 --> 00:23:23,839
And I had a minor in education.

489
00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:27,250
And so again, I like teaching,
but I didn't want to teach that.

490
00:23:27,250 --> 00:23:33,150
Um, And so I had fallen in love with
strength and conditioning over the

491
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:38,229
previous four years as my random roommate
freshman year was like a four time

492
00:23:38,229 --> 00:23:40,049
national junior powerlifting champion.

493
00:23:40,059 --> 00:23:44,080
So I got to school as a little skinny
soccer player and I ended, you know,

494
00:23:44,089 --> 00:23:49,010
with being totally obsessed with
powerlifting and strongman stuff.

495
00:23:49,605 --> 00:23:52,615
That led me to get a job
in the library at school.

496
00:23:52,615 --> 00:23:58,405
That was my part time job so that I could
go, uh, sneak off into the nutrition

497
00:23:58,405 --> 00:24:01,765
journal section and, you know, have access
to all the pub med stuff that I wouldn't

498
00:24:01,765 --> 00:24:03,675
have access to, you know, otherwise.

499
00:24:03,675 --> 00:24:08,654
And so I did a powerlifting competition
in my hometown of Richmond, Virginia,

500
00:24:08,665 --> 00:24:12,865
like three weeks before I graduated,
right after I had made this, Oh, I'm

501
00:24:12,865 --> 00:24:14,534
not applying for master's programs.

502
00:24:14,565 --> 00:24:16,264
Oh, I'm not going to be a history teacher.

503
00:24:16,284 --> 00:24:19,294
Now I have nothing to do, or don't
know what I'm going to do anyway.

504
00:24:19,610 --> 00:24:25,960
Um, right after that decision, I
meet this guy named Jay, Jay DeMaio.

505
00:24:25,980 --> 00:24:28,629
And Jay DeMaio is still at
the university of Richmond.

506
00:24:28,659 --> 00:24:35,750
Um, and he shared with me that they had
an opening that I could or should apply

507
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:38,629
for, which I did, and I got the job.

508
00:24:38,629 --> 00:24:44,870
So I was a full time intern with the
university of Richmond for over a year.

509
00:24:45,050 --> 00:24:47,050
Uh, I worked with football, men's soccer.

510
00:24:47,585 --> 00:24:49,575
women's soccer, field hockey, lacrosse.

511
00:24:49,835 --> 00:24:56,194
I worked as a personal trainer at
a gym and I worked as a coach at

512
00:24:56,194 --> 00:24:59,725
a youth strength and conditioning
facility here in town as well.

513
00:25:00,185 --> 00:25:05,304
And what I found was as much as I
loved, loved, loved the subject matter,

514
00:25:05,304 --> 00:25:10,085
as much as I loved, um, you know,
being around the team, like traveling

515
00:25:10,085 --> 00:25:13,095
with the football team and sideline
for games, like that was super cool.

516
00:25:13,365 --> 00:25:14,945
Uh, as much as I loved.

517
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:17,740
imparting that knowledge in that capacity.

518
00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:20,540
I didn't love the lack of flexibility.

519
00:25:20,850 --> 00:25:22,649
I didn't love the lack of income.

520
00:25:22,959 --> 00:25:26,119
And I didn't feel like my greatest
impact in my life was teaching

521
00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:30,280
people how to back squat and,
you know, uh, recording 40 times.

522
00:25:30,540 --> 00:25:31,579
Um, so.

523
00:25:32,410 --> 00:25:38,200
Because of that and those things, I ended
up leaving after about a year to get

524
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:44,040
into financial planning, which I felt was
my opportunity to make my family proud,

525
00:25:44,250 --> 00:25:49,069
put on a suit and tie, get a big boy
job, go to an office, uh, learn a whole

526
00:25:49,069 --> 00:25:52,290
bunch of stuff that I figured would be
valuable and important down the road.

527
00:25:52,705 --> 00:25:57,215
Uh, but most importantly for me at the
time was to gain that flexibility of time

528
00:25:57,215 --> 00:26:00,645
and income and feel like I was making
more of an impact in people's lives.

529
00:26:01,785 --> 00:26:04,715
And frankly, man, I didn't think I
was ever going to leave that career.

530
00:26:04,775 --> 00:26:09,784
I had planned on doing that for 30
years and retiring and being done, you

531
00:26:09,784 --> 00:26:13,465
know, as it turns out, I was in for
about six and a half, close to seven.

532
00:26:13,515 --> 00:26:20,910
And, uh, I, I knew probably four
years in five years in that I was

533
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,890
starting to get the rumblings of like,
uh, I don't really know about this.

534
00:26:24,170 --> 00:26:26,780
Um, I was working my butt off.

535
00:26:26,820 --> 00:26:29,909
I was grinding and this is
my early to mid twenties.

536
00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:31,669
So it's kind of what
you're supposed to do.

537
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,259
Quote unquote.

538
00:26:32,609 --> 00:26:37,409
But I, I, Was burning the candle
at both ends, you know, 6 a.

539
00:26:37,409 --> 00:26:37,710
m.

540
00:26:37,710 --> 00:26:38,520
to 8 p.

541
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:38,780
m.

542
00:26:38,780 --> 00:26:42,379
And then networking afterwards and
then back and, you know, back and

543
00:26:42,379 --> 00:26:44,839
forth again, working on weekends,
whole nine yards, trying to build

544
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,139
a network, build a business.

545
00:26:46,540 --> 00:26:50,759
And, uh, again, I kind of got the
rumblings of, I don't really love this.

546
00:26:51,299 --> 00:26:54,080
So I started a.

547
00:26:54,780 --> 00:27:00,279
a side business writing workout programs
for folks and for, you know, doing some

548
00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:04,400
nutritional coaching for folks and got
that up to the point where I was like, Oh,

549
00:27:04,459 --> 00:27:08,400
I wonder if I were to do this full time,
you know, obviously would exponentially

550
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,789
grow, you know, obviously, right.

551
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,590
Uh, translation, it didn't.

552
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:19,670
And I had this, where I had my first,
first major health scare of my life.

553
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:23,980
Uh, now I've like broken my wrists
and collarbone and had ankle

554
00:27:23,980 --> 00:27:27,250
stuff going and had concussions,
but I got bit by a spider.

555
00:27:27,550 --> 00:27:32,309
I got bit by a spider and that sent
me into the hospital, uh, for like

556
00:27:32,309 --> 00:27:35,490
three days and yeah, it was a bummer.

557
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:42,450
Um, and the, the kicker with this was,
you know, I would never was going to die.

558
00:27:42,764 --> 00:27:42,935
Right.

559
00:27:42,945 --> 00:27:44,195
They just were trying to figure it out.

560
00:27:44,225 --> 00:27:48,815
They get the infection down and
Saturday night turned to Sunday.

561
00:27:49,245 --> 00:27:52,905
It's now my third day in and I'm
supposed to be released Sunday afternoon.

562
00:27:53,195 --> 00:27:54,024
And it's like 1 a.

563
00:27:54,024 --> 00:27:54,435
m.

564
00:27:55,555 --> 00:27:58,344
Sunday morning and I'm like hooked
up to all these machines and,

565
00:27:58,354 --> 00:28:01,675
you know, like, et cetera, et
cetera, as one is in the hospital.

566
00:28:01,725 --> 00:28:06,465
And I had the thought
of, uh, today's Sunday.

567
00:28:07,370 --> 00:28:08,720
That means tomorrow's Monday.

568
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:10,870
That means I have to go back to work.

569
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,380
Maybe I'll just stay here another day.

570
00:28:14,030 --> 00:28:18,409
And it was like, pssst, lightning
bolt to the head of, dude, you want

571
00:28:18,409 --> 00:28:22,529
to stay in a hospital bed rather
than go back to your own firm?

572
00:28:22,529 --> 00:28:23,799
It's not like I had a boss.

573
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,420
It's not like I had, like, had to go back.

574
00:28:28,090 --> 00:28:31,400
I laid in that hospital bed
for the next couple hours.

575
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,780
I think I eventually got some
sleep, but I fast forwarded.

576
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,320
you know, the 25 30 years and looked at my
life and like kind of played it all out.

577
00:28:39,340 --> 00:28:43,080
And I came to the realization and
the conclusion that if I stayed

578
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,680
and did this job, I would have a
B minus to be plus life at best.

579
00:28:47,410 --> 00:28:49,150
You know, like, okay, I'll retire early.

580
00:28:49,150 --> 00:28:49,480
Okay.

581
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,470
I have some money.

582
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,670
Like, you know, but I, like,
it's not what I want to do.

583
00:28:53,670 --> 00:28:57,130
It's not how I want to be
spending the majority of my time.

584
00:28:57,429 --> 00:28:57,709
Okay.

585
00:28:57,710 --> 00:29:01,329
The majority of my life
doing this is not it.

586
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,709
And so I wish I could say I put in
my two weeks ended up being put in

587
00:29:05,709 --> 00:29:10,100
my like three months, cause I had to
wind some things down and, uh, Got

588
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:13,270
back into coaching the thing that I
knew, which was fitness and health.

589
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:18,420
And I had a outdoor workout program here
and did group community workouts and

590
00:29:18,420 --> 00:29:19,770
connected with the Richmond community.

591
00:29:19,770 --> 00:29:20,549
We had an app.

592
00:29:20,909 --> 00:29:22,359
I did a bunch of talks everywhere.

593
00:29:22,620 --> 00:29:24,540
Um, it was really cool.

594
00:29:24,670 --> 00:29:26,050
And it didn't work.

595
00:29:26,059 --> 00:29:29,335
It didn't make, nearly the money
that I needed to make to do

596
00:29:29,335 --> 00:29:30,515
the things that I needed to do.

597
00:29:30,545 --> 00:29:35,184
And, um, I learned a ton of
lessons about entrepreneurship in

598
00:29:35,185 --> 00:29:37,655
that, in that collective failure.

599
00:29:38,025 --> 00:29:44,504
And I, uh, ended up moving to Mexico
to, for a couple of reasons, mainly to

600
00:29:44,524 --> 00:29:48,544
open a health and wellness retreat, but
also because I figured that the cost of

601
00:29:48,544 --> 00:29:49,895
living would be way cheaper down there.

602
00:29:50,804 --> 00:29:53,659
And I might have a better chance
of, Pulling this thing off.

603
00:29:53,669 --> 00:29:55,559
If I was, you know, paying 1.

604
00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:56,380
50 for tacos instead of 9.

605
00:29:56,380 --> 00:29:57,820
50, you know, where I was.

606
00:29:57,820 --> 00:30:03,565
And so, um, I partnered with
an old business partner of mine

607
00:30:03,565 --> 00:30:07,235
and we moved six hours south of
Cancun in the Yucatan Peninsula.

608
00:30:07,575 --> 00:30:11,655
Uh, we're just north of Belize, this
tiny little town of 1500 people.

609
00:30:12,015 --> 00:30:19,155
And we found an amazing opportunity to put
a down payment on a, on a big compound.

610
00:30:19,155 --> 00:30:22,335
It's like seven, eight rooms
and a big open covered space.

611
00:30:22,335 --> 00:30:26,195
And, you know, I'm playing
barefoot soccer with the Ninos.

612
00:30:26,205 --> 00:30:28,615
I'm learning like five
Spanish words a day.

613
00:30:28,615 --> 00:30:30,045
I'm drinking coconut out of trees.

614
00:30:30,045 --> 00:30:30,965
Everything's awesome.

615
00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:36,219
The only issue with all this is we moved
down to Mexico on March 2nd of 2020.

616
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:43,290
And timing wise, that was as poor as
it gets as three weeks later, all the

617
00:30:43,290 --> 00:30:50,020
borders are shut the world's, you know,
freaking out, uh, regardless of how that

618
00:30:50,020 --> 00:30:54,810
ended up and thoughts about the entire
world situation over the past four years

619
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,710
at the time, given the information we
had, we made the right and tough decision

620
00:30:59,710 --> 00:31:02,560
to bail and come back to the States.

621
00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:07,600
Because we just didn't know what we didn't
know and I think at the very beginning of

622
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,040
all that there was a lot of unknowns and
a lot of scary stuff and I was learning

623
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:17,540
Spanish not not fluent in Spanish and
I wouldn't know whether you know people

624
00:31:17,540 --> 00:31:21,900
are On on my side in my corner or not.

625
00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:25,930
And so I was like, all right We should
we should get out of here So I came

626
00:31:25,930 --> 00:31:30,660
back and I lived in that guy's walk in
closet for about a month And I ended

627
00:31:30,660 --> 00:31:35,300
up working for him and his dorm room
furniture removal business, which was

628
00:31:35,980 --> 00:31:41,790
scrubbing moldy refrigerators in a, you
know, 100 degree steel warehouse for 3.

629
00:31:41,790 --> 00:31:42,360
A fridge.

630
00:31:42,380 --> 00:31:47,615
And you know, my, Next come to Jesus
moment was when he asked if I wanted

631
00:31:47,625 --> 00:31:49,095
to learn how to drive the forklift.

632
00:31:49,755 --> 00:31:52,655
And buddy, I did not want to
learn how to drive the forklift.

633
00:31:52,675 --> 00:31:57,035
Uh, that is not how I projected
forward how I wanted to spend my time.

634
00:31:57,035 --> 00:32:02,635
And so I connected with an old mentor
of mine in the coaching industry and he

635
00:32:02,995 --> 00:32:07,765
helped me personally first, you know, get
wrapped my head around this loss of this

636
00:32:07,765 --> 00:32:09,385
dream that I had had for a long time.

637
00:32:09,405 --> 00:32:13,675
And I saw how effective it was in
such a short period of time that I.

638
00:32:14,065 --> 00:32:19,345
Wanted to learn more about it
and, um, ended up once I, I did

639
00:32:19,555 --> 00:32:21,515
learn more about story work.

640
00:32:21,575 --> 00:32:25,405
I made a pretty quick commitment to
like, all right, I'm going to do this.

641
00:32:25,545 --> 00:32:27,495
I'm going to give this a real solid go.

642
00:32:27,535 --> 00:32:31,295
I'm going to do a thousand sessions,
professional, professional sessions.

643
00:32:31,690 --> 00:32:34,910
And, uh, today, four years later,
three and a half, four years

644
00:32:34,910 --> 00:32:38,040
later, I'm up to 1150, right?

645
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,290
So I've met and surpassed that goal.

646
00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:42,339
My next goal is 10, 000, right?

647
00:32:42,340 --> 00:32:46,000
Uh, which is cool to have like
a 25 year goal, also a little

648
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,410
daunting, but still very cool.

649
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:54,250
And, uh, I pretty much knew from
the first time that I saw this work

650
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,960
that this is going to be it for me.

651
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,985
Like, this is, not only fulfilling,
but it's incredibly impactful.

652
00:33:00,985 --> 00:33:03,685
And I saw it as the through
line between everything else.

653
00:33:04,005 --> 00:33:08,295
So I like to say that looking
backwards, we can, uh, collect the

654
00:33:08,295 --> 00:33:10,035
dots before we connect the dots.

655
00:33:10,065 --> 00:33:13,415
And once I've collected all my dots,
I can see how this led to that.

656
00:33:13,415 --> 00:33:16,055
And that led to this and this, Oh,
that's why I had to go down that

657
00:33:16,055 --> 00:33:17,854
path and you know, yada, yada, yada.

658
00:33:17,855 --> 00:33:21,705
And I, I do have quite the collection of.

659
00:33:22,190 --> 00:33:26,430
Uh, career skills to get me to this point.

660
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,770
That's quite a journey
and timing just that sad.

661
00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:34,880
I'm a personal trainer.

662
00:33:35,030 --> 00:33:40,480
Uh, I can attest that if you're not in
the right place, it's a really bad living.

663
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:47,340
Uh, and as much as I love that industry,
just, Yeah, you're not in the right place.

664
00:33:47,910 --> 00:33:48,710
It's bad.

665
00:33:49,030 --> 00:33:52,500
Yeah, it sounded like you guys thought
that would have been cool total fitness

666
00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:57,750
retreat center There's an ulterior
universe where I am about 19 shades

667
00:33:57,750 --> 00:34:02,900
darker 100 percent fluid in Spanish
I got 12 dogs running around and we

668
00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:05,760
are rocking and rolling on the lagoon.

669
00:34:05,910 --> 00:34:09,150
But you know, that is
not This current reality.

670
00:34:09,150 --> 00:34:10,510
And that is perfectly okay.

671
00:34:10,750 --> 00:34:14,640
That has led me to many of my
greatest, um, things in my life.

672
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:15,060
So.

673
00:34:15,950 --> 00:34:22,630
So you fell in love with story work
because your friend helped you first here.

674
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,700
Here's the big question
that everybody's got now.

675
00:34:26,770 --> 00:34:28,400
What is story work?

676
00:34:29,530 --> 00:34:34,120
Because you and I started talking, I'm
like, I think I've heard the term once,

677
00:34:35,620 --> 00:34:40,850
but I, I sure as was like, I'm curious.

678
00:34:40,850 --> 00:34:42,840
I don't understand it at all.

679
00:34:42,850 --> 00:34:43,330
So.

680
00:34:43,970 --> 00:34:45,230
What is story work?

681
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,190
So, shocker, we all use words
when we speak, when we think,

682
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,580
when we write, when we read.

683
00:34:53,220 --> 00:35:00,400
Words are the foundation of our culture
and in my argument and in the way I

684
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,660
like to talk about it's the foundation
of our perception of reality, right?

685
00:35:03,660 --> 00:35:08,945
Because words create stories aka belief
systems And those belief systems, how

686
00:35:08,945 --> 00:35:13,085
you see the world, how you see your past
experiences, your present day life, your

687
00:35:13,085 --> 00:35:18,675
future experiences is going to, again,
dictate your actual lived life experience.

688
00:35:18,705 --> 00:35:23,345
And so story work is the process
of becoming aware of speech

689
00:35:23,345 --> 00:35:27,495
patterns and the stories we
tell ourselves, aka our beliefs.

690
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:35,250
And, uh, taking them from our heads and
putting them on to a page, or in my case,

691
00:35:35,260 --> 00:35:39,160
professionally, 99 percent of my work is
done remote via zoom and a Google doc.

692
00:35:39,390 --> 00:35:43,680
So when I say write something down, I
most likely mean type it out, right?

693
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,420
But you can grab a pen and write it down
just as easily, easily as you could pull

694
00:35:47,420 --> 00:35:49,500
up a new Google doc and type it out.

695
00:35:50,510 --> 00:35:52,500
But StoryWorks taking our thoughts.

696
00:35:53,495 --> 00:35:58,025
specifically as it relates to
past experiences that maybe were

697
00:35:58,035 --> 00:36:01,135
hurtful or traumatic or haunting.

698
00:36:01,515 --> 00:36:04,925
We're taking our thoughts as it
relates to our current day experience

699
00:36:04,935 --> 00:36:09,395
where, you know, we're stuck or we
have imposter syndrome or we just

700
00:36:09,395 --> 00:36:14,165
feel like, ugh, or, um, maybe there's
an inner critic or an inner bully

701
00:36:14,165 --> 00:36:17,645
that's really, really loud and mean.

702
00:36:18,035 --> 00:36:25,410
Um, once we get those Words onto paper or
onto the screen, then we slowly start to

703
00:36:25,410 --> 00:36:30,050
downshift ourselves from the fight, flight
or freeze sympathetic nervous system

704
00:36:30,050 --> 00:36:33,920
response state that we're in because we're
thinking and saying those things into the

705
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,960
rest and relax, feed and breed
parasympathetic nervous system response

706
00:36:42,970 --> 00:36:47,555
state, and it's in that state where,
which is the opposite of Fight or flight.

707
00:36:47,725 --> 00:36:49,105
The opposite of stress.

708
00:36:49,525 --> 00:36:53,685
It's in the calm state where we
can store our memories, process our

709
00:36:53,685 --> 00:36:57,125
emotions, heal ourself, heal ourselves.

710
00:36:57,415 --> 00:37:01,305
And once we do that, we can look
forward with great clarity as

711
00:37:01,305 --> 00:37:06,545
opposed to through opaque and dirty
windows and actually architect

712
00:37:06,545 --> 00:37:07,995
the reality we want for ourselves.

713
00:37:08,265 --> 00:37:12,435
So story work is a process and a
methodology to help us deal with

714
00:37:12,435 --> 00:37:16,425
the stuff that we don't like about
our past, present, and get really,

715
00:37:16,425 --> 00:37:17,855
really clear about the future.

716
00:37:19,835 --> 00:37:23,965
What is people's common reaction when
they're first introduced to this idea?

717
00:37:24,455 --> 00:37:26,235
Like I said, I, I, I had no idea.

718
00:37:26,235 --> 00:37:30,005
I'm like, I'm not even sure what that
is, but yeah, let's talk about it.

719
00:37:31,295 --> 00:37:33,585
Most people think I have
something to do with copywriting.

720
00:37:33,905 --> 00:37:37,615
Um, or, you know, I'm like make
videos for people or like help people

721
00:37:37,615 --> 00:37:39,269
write books or something like that.

722
00:37:39,470 --> 00:37:41,040
Uh, that is not accurate.

723
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,940
None of those are accurate.

724
00:37:42,210 --> 00:37:49,450
Um, a lot of people compare it to therapy,
which is, uh, partially in an honor and

725
00:37:49,450 --> 00:37:51,900
partially like, no, no, not that at all.

726
00:37:52,110 --> 00:37:53,910
Um, it is therapeutic.

727
00:37:54,210 --> 00:37:55,320
It is certainly not therapy.

728
00:37:55,690 --> 00:37:57,090
Therapy has helped a lot of folks.

729
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,420
I am a big advocate for talking
about the things that are bothering

730
00:38:00,420 --> 00:38:03,410
you and sharing and expressing
your emotions, especially as men.

731
00:38:03,410 --> 00:38:06,150
We don't often do that as
much as we should or could.

732
00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:12,760
Um, And therapy often has, uh, lacks
resolution and has people just like

733
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,420
talking in circles and drama bonding.

734
00:38:14,540 --> 00:38:18,460
And so, um, that goes way
beyond that story work does.

735
00:38:19,530 --> 00:38:24,150
We get to resolutions very
quickly, very effectively.

736
00:38:24,170 --> 00:38:30,380
And, um, like it's not a 60 percent
of the time it works every time.

737
00:38:30,380 --> 00:38:33,850
It's like a, every time it works
every time type type situation.

738
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,960
So I'm glad you answered that because
I was going to relate it to therapy.

739
00:38:39,970 --> 00:38:40,460
Sorry.

740
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:41,600
That's okay.

741
00:38:42,110 --> 00:38:47,150
So looking into you and researching
what you do a little bit.

742
00:38:48,175 --> 00:38:52,465
What kind of things can this help people
process because you mentioned that

743
00:38:52,495 --> 00:38:56,985
inner critic I've done entire shows
about our negative self talk is for men.

744
00:38:56,985 --> 00:39:01,835
That's a really really harsh issue
Most men struggle with that, but

745
00:39:01,835 --> 00:39:07,620
I saw like you doing anxiety and
stress What, what can this do?

746
00:39:07,620 --> 00:39:09,900
What kind of things can this
help people work through?

747
00:39:10,650 --> 00:39:11,530
Yeah, great question.

748
00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:13,890
Um, you know, let's start with
the negative self talk piece.

749
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,990
If you're watching this via video, I've
got a really cool representation of

750
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:19,820
the light wolf, dark wolf behind me.

751
00:39:20,220 --> 00:39:24,550
And that's an old native American tale
where, you know, there's a battle between

752
00:39:24,770 --> 00:39:28,410
the light wolf and the dark wolf that's
been waged inside every single one of

753
00:39:28,410 --> 00:39:30,020
us since the very beginning of time.

754
00:39:30,090 --> 00:39:32,660
And the dark wolf manifests itself as.

755
00:39:33,145 --> 00:39:38,095
evil and fear and envy and jealousy
and hatred and sadness and etc.

756
00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:42,435
The light wolf manifests itself as
love and joy and peace and kindness and

757
00:39:42,465 --> 00:39:44,865
altruism and happiness and etc, etc.

758
00:39:45,335 --> 00:39:47,605
And somebody asks, which one wins?

759
00:39:48,365 --> 00:39:51,425
And the answer is the one
you feed the one you feed.

760
00:39:51,755 --> 00:39:57,580
And ultimately, many people are feeding
their dark wolf with The negative

761
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,760
inner critic, the negative self talk.

762
00:40:00,110 --> 00:40:05,260
And one of the very first things I
do with a lot of folks coaching wise

763
00:40:05,300 --> 00:40:11,550
is we name the dark wall and we get
verbatim on paper on the worst days.

764
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:13,010
What does he say?

765
00:40:13,420 --> 00:40:17,070
So, first of all, that's really important
for people because they're disassociating

766
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,300
that negative voice from them.

767
00:40:19,770 --> 00:40:23,070
You know, the self with a capital
S or the soul with a capital

768
00:40:23,070 --> 00:40:24,580
S it's something different.

769
00:40:24,930 --> 00:40:26,990
It's typically something
learned from the outside.

770
00:40:27,310 --> 00:40:29,570
And most oftentimes it's not accurate.

771
00:40:30,020 --> 00:40:31,520
Even though it's very mean, right?

772
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:37,140
And then once we can see that, once we
can downshift a bit into that state,

773
00:40:37,170 --> 00:40:40,680
as it relates to that thing on the
screen that, you know, was repeating

774
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,660
in your head over and over and over
again, and causing a negative feedback

775
00:40:43,660 --> 00:40:45,550
loop or causing a shame spiral, right?

776
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,700
Once we create that space and that
distance, then we're able to name

777
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:54,460
your light wolf and translate it, not
English to French or French to Italian,

778
00:40:54,460 --> 00:40:57,020
but, you know, change the words.

779
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:02,050
for two words that can help uplift
and inspire and again, architect

780
00:41:02,050 --> 00:41:03,480
the reality we want for ourselves.

781
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:09,130
And so self talks, huge imposter
syndromes, huge identity work is huge.

782
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,220
How you define yourself, right?

783
00:41:11,490 --> 00:41:18,270
Um, the crux of this work is in working
through past experiences, right?

784
00:41:18,270 --> 00:41:24,885
So, um, I like to say stuck,
hurt, haunted, we'll add

785
00:41:24,885 --> 00:41:25,975
traumatic in there as well.

786
00:41:25,985 --> 00:41:29,855
Stuck is more kind of present day, but
it's, it's decisions, you know, should

787
00:41:29,855 --> 00:41:35,355
I stay or should I go, uh, transitions
from a, a work or relationship or just

788
00:41:35,355 --> 00:41:39,905
like general feelings of apathy or
like the wheels aren't turning, man.

789
00:41:39,915 --> 00:41:42,165
Like you were just in the
sand, stuff's not working.

790
00:41:42,165 --> 00:41:43,035
I don't know what to do.

791
00:41:43,185 --> 00:41:43,865
That's stuck.

792
00:41:44,775 --> 00:41:45,265
Hurt.

793
00:41:45,495 --> 00:41:47,895
We've all experienced hurt in our past.

794
00:41:48,590 --> 00:41:53,900
All of us, something somebody said,
something somebody did or did not do,

795
00:41:54,250 --> 00:41:58,140
this could have been last week, could have
been when you were seven years old, uh,

796
00:41:58,150 --> 00:42:04,870
it was a breakup, this is loss, this is
grief, this is disappointment, etc, etc.

797
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,170
Alright, everyone has experienced hurt.

798
00:42:08,270 --> 00:42:12,010
Some people have even experienced
haunted, we're talking Hollywood,

799
00:42:12,010 --> 00:42:14,870
this is the stuff that the horror
movies are made out of, right?

800
00:42:15,110 --> 00:42:17,070
Um, you know, assaults.

801
00:42:18,135 --> 00:42:23,335
murders, you know, my first story
ever was a kidnapping story.

802
00:42:23,715 --> 00:42:27,575
Uh, I've, my third or fourth story
I ever worked was the guy was

803
00:42:27,575 --> 00:42:29,865
a 50 Cal gunner in Iraq, right?

804
00:42:29,865 --> 00:42:34,575
Like a lot of heavy stuff that people
have been through in their past and

805
00:42:35,115 --> 00:42:39,155
traumatic experiences are defined
as experiences that actually cause

806
00:42:39,155 --> 00:42:40,455
physiological changes in the brain.

807
00:42:40,875 --> 00:42:44,475
So it makes the brain more susceptible to
going into that fight, flight, or freeze

808
00:42:44,615 --> 00:42:46,625
to protect from that experience again.

809
00:42:46,985 --> 00:42:49,985
And again, most of us have experienced
traumatic experiences in our life too.

810
00:42:50,435 --> 00:42:56,365
And so what all of that
does is it creates dis ease.

811
00:42:56,755 --> 00:43:02,405
Not necessarily disease, but it creates
dis ease in our bodies when we think

812
00:43:02,415 --> 00:43:06,115
about that thing, or if we're triggered
by something in and around that thing.

813
00:43:06,455 --> 00:43:10,725
Or if we hear a song that, you know,
so and so used to love and now so and

814
00:43:10,725 --> 00:43:12,435
so broke our heart or passed away.

815
00:43:12,435 --> 00:43:15,615
And now it's just like, uh,
hits us super, super hard.

816
00:43:15,905 --> 00:43:16,455
And so.

817
00:43:16,895 --> 00:43:22,655
Story where it can help get those
emotions up and out and get that negative

818
00:43:22,665 --> 00:43:26,465
energy, you know, I'm trying to keep
it as, as unwoo as I can, you know,

819
00:43:26,465 --> 00:43:29,145
but get the, get, yeah, you're welcome.

820
00:43:29,335 --> 00:43:33,045
Get, get the stuck suck out so that.

821
00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:35,520
You know, when you think about
that thing right before you go to

822
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,950
bed, you can actually process it
and your brain and body actually,

823
00:43:39,140 --> 00:43:41,510
again, heal from those experiences.

824
00:43:41,790 --> 00:43:48,090
And so, it allows people to work
through the stuff that they would

825
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:49,530
have rather not gone through.

826
00:43:49,590 --> 00:43:52,940
And we obviously can't go back in
time and change things, but we sure

827
00:43:52,940 --> 00:43:56,360
as heck can change our perception to
the things that we've experienced.

828
00:43:56,610 --> 00:44:00,695
And once we take something out of
our head, And put it onto the paper.

829
00:44:01,545 --> 00:44:09,235
Um, we are able to create
distance in space from that story.

830
00:44:09,235 --> 00:44:12,775
So now we're not in the story
experience, experiencing it

831
00:44:12,775 --> 00:44:13,855
over and over and over again.

832
00:44:13,855 --> 00:44:18,555
Now we're observing the story in the
movie theater, eating popcorn and

833
00:44:18,555 --> 00:44:20,725
drinking soda pop and watching it happen.

834
00:44:21,005 --> 00:44:22,565
And that's an entirely
different experience.

835
00:44:24,655 --> 00:44:30,825
So what makes your coaching unique as
opposed to all the other coaches out

836
00:44:30,825 --> 00:44:31,995
there who are trying to help people?

837
00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:36,860
I've worked with a couple amazing coaches
who deal with trauma and stuff like that.

838
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,210
What makes this unique?

839
00:44:41,710 --> 00:44:44,640
There's an ongoing 30 plus
year study at Harvard.

840
00:44:45,140 --> 00:44:50,840
Uh, I'll let you guess how many,
what percentage of the U S population

841
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:53,740
has written down their goals?

842
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,150
Ooh, less than 8%.

843
00:44:56,150 --> 00:45:01,630
It's three, 3 percent of
people have written goals.

844
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:07,930
You want to take a guess at how more
likely someone is to accomplish their goal

845
00:45:07,930 --> 00:45:09,500
if they have it written down versus not?

846
00:45:10,410 --> 00:45:12,450
64 percent if I remember right.

847
00:45:12,650 --> 00:45:13,400
It's 10x.

848
00:45:14,890 --> 00:45:15,310
10x.

849
00:45:15,980 --> 00:45:19,030
It's 1000 percent more likely
to accomplish their goals.

850
00:45:20,020 --> 00:45:25,830
And, uh, I would reckon to say
that less than 1 percent of people

851
00:45:25,830 --> 00:45:26,990
have written down their fears.

852
00:45:27,780 --> 00:45:31,120
Less than that have written
down the really terrible things

853
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:31,760
that have happened to them.

854
00:45:31,925 --> 00:45:34,245
A lot of people journal, and that's cool.

855
00:45:34,255 --> 00:45:35,715
A lot of people meditate, that's cool.

856
00:45:35,715 --> 00:45:37,275
A lot of people do
breath work, that's cool.

857
00:45:37,325 --> 00:45:40,575
A lot of people talk about the
stuff that they've experienced and

858
00:45:40,585 --> 00:45:43,695
ask for help and, you know, share
their feelings, and that's cool.

859
00:45:43,935 --> 00:45:46,055
And I think more people
could do all those things.

860
00:45:46,275 --> 00:45:52,305
What makes story work unique is the fact
that, uh, once we get something out of

861
00:45:52,305 --> 00:45:56,260
our head and onto the page, Great, that's
step one, stories titled and written out.

862
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,230
Step two is now we read it out loud.

863
00:45:58,570 --> 00:45:59,860
Nobody reads their journals out loud.

864
00:46:00,290 --> 00:46:04,490
It's totally different when you
hear the thing that you're reading,

865
00:46:05,070 --> 00:46:09,520
uh, then we downshift even further
and we slow down the pace of

866
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,810
speech as we're reading this thing.

867
00:46:12,085 --> 00:46:16,945
And each time we're accessing a new
layer and a new level of understanding

868
00:46:16,955 --> 00:46:20,955
about the situation and we're also
actualizing it with ourself because

869
00:46:20,955 --> 00:46:23,725
now it's another rep and another
rep and another rep of this thing.

870
00:46:24,245 --> 00:46:30,785
Um, and then we add in rhythmic breathing,
rhythmic downshifting breath to the

871
00:46:30,785 --> 00:46:34,845
equation where on every punctuation
point, we'll add in one of these.

872
00:46:41,415 --> 00:46:43,715
So what happens if I breathe
like that for the next minute?

873
00:46:44,180 --> 00:46:48,240
I'm going to be chilled out regardless
of what I'm reading, whether I'm

874
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:50,190
watching a horror film or not, right?

875
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:54,420
And so, again, instead of just talking
about something, now we're actually

876
00:46:54,420 --> 00:46:59,950
pulling ourselves into that rest and relax
state where physiologically we can deal

877
00:46:59,950 --> 00:47:02,580
with it way, way, way, way, way better.

878
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,330
And then we go in and change the words.

879
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,730
Sometimes, right?

880
00:47:07,730 --> 00:47:09,890
We change the word from this to that.

881
00:47:09,900 --> 00:47:12,190
We make the link between this and that.

882
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,140
We go in and find accuracy or
inaccuracies in the speech.

883
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:22,560
So I think the methodology, take out the
I think, the methodology is the key here.

884
00:47:23,010 --> 00:47:27,780
And then for me personally, I don't
know whether it was I grew up with

885
00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:35,220
two little sisters or had probably
10, 000 interpersonal relationship

886
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,000
interactions with people over the
course of my career, given multiple

887
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,640
different careers, very good at
reading people, very good at reading

888
00:47:42,650 --> 00:47:44,410
energy and very good at holding space.

889
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,240
Most importantly, I'm very good
at shooting people straight.

890
00:47:47,705 --> 00:47:51,865
And shutting up when I need to shut
up and it ain't going anywhere.

891
00:47:51,925 --> 00:47:55,065
I don't share anything with
anybody and people sessions.

892
00:47:55,065 --> 00:47:59,545
And so I'm very good at creating
that, that, uh, set and setting,

893
00:47:59,565 --> 00:48:03,395
so to speak, to allow people to get
into their, get into their stuff.

894
00:48:03,795 --> 00:48:06,295
And I always got their back coming out.

895
00:48:06,535 --> 00:48:09,515
And so I think that's what
makes my coaching very unique.

896
00:48:09,855 --> 00:48:13,155
Is not only the methodology, but you
know, as we talked about in the very

897
00:48:13,155 --> 00:48:14,775
beginning, like this is why I'm here, bro.

898
00:48:14,915 --> 00:48:18,205
Like, like I work stories,
you know, and, and I love it.

899
00:48:18,225 --> 00:48:19,455
I'm going to keep doing it forever.

900
00:48:19,735 --> 00:48:21,690
And I'm really good at it.

901
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:30,260
And it helps people to, to pretty
instantly feel way different about the

902
00:48:30,260 --> 00:48:32,140
thing that was really bothering them.

903
00:48:34,070 --> 00:48:34,460
All right.

904
00:48:35,910 --> 00:48:39,800
Now guys, we've been discussing
Dave's story, what story work is,

905
00:48:39,810 --> 00:48:43,610
how it helps people, how it affects
people in the next part of the show.

906
00:48:44,145 --> 00:48:46,335
We're going to do something we've
never done on the show before.

907
00:48:46,335 --> 00:48:49,745
We're going to take a totally different
approach to how this can apply to you, how

908
00:48:49,745 --> 00:48:51,565
you can effectively use this in your life.

909
00:48:52,105 --> 00:48:55,585
Instead of me trying to tell you
a lot about this or just list off

910
00:48:55,585 --> 00:48:59,205
things, Dave and I are actually
going to go into a coaching session.

911
00:48:59,675 --> 00:49:04,555
Uh, Dave's going to work with me live
on this broadcast and I'm going to

912
00:49:04,555 --> 00:49:06,625
let you just see what this is now.

913
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:10,650
I'm a little anxious because I have
no idea what's going to happen or

914
00:49:10,650 --> 00:49:11,710
what's going to come out of this.

915
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,310
Uh, I have no idea what
we're going to dive into.

916
00:49:14,890 --> 00:49:15,930
We haven't planned this.

917
00:49:15,930 --> 00:49:21,310
We haven't discussed this, but I
want you guys to see what this really

918
00:49:21,310 --> 00:49:25,590
works as what this does and how
this can be effective in your life.

919
00:49:26,590 --> 00:49:30,870
And then after that, we're going to get
into, uh, we'll wrap things out with Dave.

920
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,560
He's got a generous offer for
our first three listeners.

921
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,180
I'll tell you all about
that when we come back.

922
00:49:36,965 --> 00:49:39,175
Uh, we're going to roll to our
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923
00:49:39,175 --> 00:49:40,225
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Now let's dive back into the show guys.

944
00:50:37,425 --> 00:50:37,885
Welcome back.

945
00:50:37,895 --> 00:50:41,245
In the last part of the show, we were
discussing a little bit about Dave's

946
00:50:41,245 --> 00:50:44,925
story and background and what story
work actually is and how it affects

947
00:50:44,925 --> 00:50:49,435
people, how it can be used to help you
move to different things in your life.

948
00:50:49,775 --> 00:50:54,105
In this part of the show, we're going
to do something totally different

949
00:50:54,105 --> 00:50:55,205
than we've ever done on the show.

950
00:50:55,525 --> 00:50:57,455
And that's, we're gonna do
a live coaching session.

951
00:50:57,465 --> 00:50:59,605
And I'm willing to let Dave.

952
00:50:59,900 --> 00:51:00,960
Run the con.

953
00:51:01,230 --> 00:51:02,340
We have not discussed this.

954
00:51:02,340 --> 00:51:03,400
We have not planned this.

955
00:51:03,690 --> 00:51:05,360
I really have no idea where this is going.

956
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,470
But I wanted you to be able to see
exactly what story work is about and

957
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,330
how it can be applied to your life,
how it could possibly benefit you.

958
00:51:13,690 --> 00:51:16,120
And I couldn't think of a
better way to do that than just

959
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,320
letting you see it in action.

960
00:51:17,830 --> 00:51:20,960
So Dave, we're in your hands, my man.

961
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:21,570
I appreciate it.

962
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:22,160
All right.

963
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,110
So I'm going to start this off with
the same thing that I tell every single

964
00:51:26,110 --> 00:51:28,760
one of my clients at the very, very
first session that I do with them.

965
00:51:28,980 --> 00:51:29,250
All right.

966
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:29,930
It's three things.

967
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,370
One, if we get anything written down.

968
00:51:33,810 --> 00:51:38,210
In this timeframe that we have, it's
a huge win, huge win, taking it from

969
00:51:38,210 --> 00:51:39,560
our heads, putting it on the page.

970
00:51:39,770 --> 00:51:41,310
That's a massive win.

971
00:51:41,870 --> 00:51:45,420
Number two, I'm always going to shoot
you straight as I shared earlier.

972
00:51:45,700 --> 00:51:48,910
And number three, what I usually say is
ain't nobody ever going to hear about it.

973
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,600
But with this one, it's going to be the
people who are listening to this podcast,

974
00:51:52,620 --> 00:51:54,330
we'll hear about it and that's it, right?

975
00:51:54,330 --> 00:51:56,650
So it's not everybody, just
the people that hear the show.

976
00:51:56,690 --> 00:51:59,690
So what that means is, you know,
Brent, play at your own level.

977
00:52:00,205 --> 00:52:00,455
Right.

978
00:52:00,505 --> 00:52:04,205
I'm totally okay and prepared with
this being a walk in the park.

979
00:52:04,535 --> 00:52:05,325
I'm totally okay.

980
00:52:05,325 --> 00:52:07,945
I'm prepared for this to be
world war three and four, right.

981
00:52:07,945 --> 00:52:09,325
And anything in between, right.

982
00:52:09,325 --> 00:52:13,765
So play at the level you want to
play at, and we will rock and roll.

983
00:52:14,275 --> 00:52:16,395
Um, to start off.

984
00:52:17,110 --> 00:52:20,640
What would you say your strongest
emotion is right now and

985
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,110
rate it one to ten tens high?

986
00:52:30,250 --> 00:52:36,560
It's between stress and anxiety, I'm not
sure what word that is or what's what's

987
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:43,770
right there But stress and anxiety is
like nine where we're struggling no

988
00:52:43,770 --> 00:52:48,720
right or wrong answers here either with
any of this stuff So now I want you to

989
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:52,570
take we've got the emotion of stress
and anxiety We've got a scale of how

990
00:52:52,570 --> 00:52:58,180
high it is What does that feel like
physically for you, like sensation wise?

991
00:52:58,190 --> 00:53:01,210
So, you know, maybe there's sensation
in your head, but get out of your

992
00:53:01,210 --> 00:53:03,080
head, so to speak, get into your body.

993
00:53:03,340 --> 00:53:06,690
And tell me sensation wise, what do
you experience when you experience

994
00:53:06,690 --> 00:53:08,510
a 9 out of 10 stress or anxiety?

995
00:53:11,260 --> 00:53:14,950
It's like a weight, like just pressing in.

996
00:53:15,395 --> 00:53:16,545
I just, I'm tired.

997
00:53:17,515 --> 00:53:20,035
It doesn't matter how many
hours I sleep, but I'm tired.

998
00:53:20,035 --> 00:53:24,005
And there's just this constant weight
sitting in my chest and shoulders.

999
00:53:25,325 --> 00:53:27,325
And is that a familiar feeling to you?

1000
00:53:27,325 --> 00:53:29,205
Or is this the first time
you felt that in a long time?

1001
00:53:29,675 --> 00:53:34,025
Uh, This is an ongoing issue
for several months now.

1002
00:53:34,025 --> 00:53:36,235
So it's, it's been there a while.

1003
00:53:37,325 --> 00:53:42,205
Um, I get moments of alleviation from
it, like sitting down with my kids.

1004
00:53:42,205 --> 00:53:44,105
I, my, my daughter's my whole world.

1005
00:53:44,105 --> 00:53:50,275
So sitting down and doing this stuff with
them, it kind of dissipate some, but I,

1006
00:53:50,275 --> 00:53:54,785
I definitely, if I let myself feel it,
it's, it's there and it's just heavy.

1007
00:53:57,395 --> 00:54:01,875
So you mentioned you've got
a, a way to type, right?

1008
00:54:01,915 --> 00:54:03,305
You got a one note in front of you, right?

1009
00:54:04,670 --> 00:54:06,290
Pull that up for me if you would.

1010
00:54:06,350 --> 00:54:08,560
And if you're listening at
home, you could do this as well.

1011
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,840
You can answer this exact same question
that I'll ask and we'll set like a,

1012
00:54:13,250 --> 00:54:15,770
you know, one minute timer ish, right?

1013
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,240
This will be kind of a top, top of mind.

1014
00:54:19,780 --> 00:54:23,760
The question is what area of
your life Are you feeling the

1015
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,310
most stuck in right now and why,

1016
00:54:29,410 --> 00:54:34,350
what area of your life are you feeling
the most stuck in right now and why?

1017
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:51,800
While Brent's writing this out, um,
I encourage you to maybe hit pause on

1018
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,970
the podcast and grab a pen and paper
and answer this question yourself.

1019
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:02,440
And, um, you've got an opportunity
to move through a couple different

1020
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,530
layers of, of this process, even
without a coach sitting in front

1021
00:55:06,530 --> 00:55:07,830
of you and talking directly to you.

1022
00:55:08,180 --> 00:55:11,530
So there's a beautiful concept
that, that I love in my coaching

1023
00:55:11,530 --> 00:55:13,080
called Heal One, Heal All.

1024
00:55:13,540 --> 00:55:15,430
Most of the time it's done one on one.

1025
00:55:15,500 --> 00:55:20,310
And when I do group work, uh, the
really cool thing is you don't even

1026
00:55:20,310 --> 00:55:23,580
necessarily have to raise your hand and
participate in order to get a lot out

1027
00:55:23,580 --> 00:55:27,000
of the group sessions that, that occur
because somebody is going through a

1028
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,410
story you can relate to and it can help
you move your emotion as well, listener.

1029
00:55:32,665 --> 00:55:34,135
When you're ready, just let me know.

1030
00:55:35,045 --> 00:55:38,165
Yeah, I know that this one
is an easy question for me.

1031
00:55:38,575 --> 00:55:38,875
Okay.

1032
00:55:38,955 --> 00:55:42,785
Um, stuck is my, just
my financial situation.

1033
00:55:43,905 --> 00:55:50,115
Uh, I took a year off my full time
job, left it to take my podcast and

1034
00:55:50,115 --> 00:55:54,745
my business with the foul man full
time and have not built up enough

1035
00:55:54,745 --> 00:55:57,115
sponsors to financially cover that.

1036
00:55:58,015 --> 00:56:00,555
And so right now we are
financially strapped.

1037
00:56:00,575 --> 00:56:02,695
I've actually spent my
entire life savings.

1038
00:56:03,185 --> 00:56:04,825
working through this for the last year.

1039
00:56:05,745 --> 00:56:10,325
And I've, I've so many guys out
there will be able to identify

1040
00:56:10,485 --> 00:56:11,245
when you're out of work.

1041
00:56:11,335 --> 00:56:14,955
I've applied for so many jobs, jobs.

1042
00:56:14,955 --> 00:56:16,635
I know I'm qualified for jobs.

1043
00:56:16,635 --> 00:56:22,065
I know I'm great at a job cited for
years, have lots of experience at, and

1044
00:56:22,065 --> 00:56:24,065
I just have no job prospects right now.

1045
00:56:24,495 --> 00:56:26,495
Uh, we're ridiculously in debt.

1046
00:56:26,535 --> 00:56:28,805
I've got no income coming in to fix that.

1047
00:56:30,015 --> 00:56:31,225
And so that.

1048
00:56:32,435 --> 00:56:39,405
It just the financial stress of not
knowing how I'm going to pay my bills

1049
00:56:39,425 --> 00:56:45,105
or buy groceries or anything like
that is, is weighty at this point.

1050
00:56:46,285 --> 00:56:46,975
Absolutely.

1051
00:56:47,115 --> 00:56:47,805
Absolutely.

1052
00:56:48,115 --> 00:56:48,895
Uh, I think you're right.

1053
00:56:48,915 --> 00:56:53,685
And that a lot of other men and, and
other folks can identify with that.

1054
00:56:53,685 --> 00:56:56,755
I certainly can identify with
that numerous times in my life.

1055
00:56:57,145 --> 00:57:02,585
Um, how does expressing that feel

1056
00:57:07,325 --> 00:57:08,985
like physically or emotionally?

1057
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,270
and both.

1058
00:57:11,630 --> 00:57:12,040
Okay.

1059
00:57:12,230 --> 00:57:12,840
Uh,

1060
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:17,830
physically is like a gut punch.

1061
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:26,300
Like it, it's, it's hard to
swallow because it makes me

1062
00:57:26,300 --> 00:57:28,330
feel very weak and like failure.

1063
00:57:33,460 --> 00:57:35,110
And emotionally, how does that feel?

1064
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:43,195
Uh, that's, I mean, just
emotionally, I just, I feel

1065
00:57:43,205 --> 00:57:46,715
like a failure and it's a total,

1066
00:57:49,895 --> 00:57:54,185
if I let myself sit in that,
uh, I'm very depressed.

1067
00:57:54,955 --> 00:57:58,605
Uh, it's very hard to, it's
starting to affect my sleep.

1068
00:57:58,655 --> 00:58:02,355
Like I'm wanting to sleep longer
because the energy is just not there

1069
00:58:02,945 --> 00:58:07,145
because of the weight of everything
is taking a negative outlook.

1070
00:58:07,345 --> 00:58:07,935
I'm feeling.

1071
00:58:09,525 --> 00:58:10,805
It's hard to say positive.

1072
00:58:13,495 --> 00:58:13,895
Totally.

1073
00:58:16,715 --> 00:58:19,315
Sensation wise, what are you experiencing?

1074
00:58:19,465 --> 00:58:20,845
Is that weight and burden there?

1075
00:58:20,845 --> 00:58:22,205
You said I punched the gut.

1076
00:58:22,515 --> 00:58:23,295
What else is there?

1077
00:58:23,575 --> 00:58:26,495
It's definitely, it's
heavier to talk about it.

1078
00:58:26,675 --> 00:58:27,185
Actually.

1079
00:58:27,515 --> 00:58:30,165
It's like pressing in as we're talking.

1080
00:58:38,515 --> 00:58:40,095
Let's read out what you have again.

1081
00:58:41,205 --> 00:58:44,425
And this time I want you to just slow
down your pace just a little bit.

1082
00:58:45,405 --> 00:58:45,695
Right?

1083
00:58:45,705 --> 00:58:48,975
So reading out exactly what
you wrote down on the page.

1084
00:58:49,595 --> 00:58:53,825
And just slow down your
rate of speech as you do so.

1085
00:58:58,575 --> 00:59:15,225
My financial situation with no income and
no job prospects is just wearing me down.

1086
00:59:17,695 --> 00:59:18,205
Great job.

1087
00:59:20,265 --> 00:59:20,775
Great job.

1088
00:59:23,695 --> 00:59:25,955
Have you been in this situation before?

1089
00:59:28,675 --> 00:59:31,095
Not to this extreme.

1090
00:59:31,665 --> 00:59:36,285
Uh, I've been without work before
for a short period of time, but never

1091
00:59:36,285 --> 00:59:38,820
anything to, uh, Uh, this extreme.

1092
00:59:39,870 --> 00:59:43,730
We've been, we had enough money set
aside to go a certain amount of time.

1093
00:59:44,380 --> 00:59:45,990
I passed that six months ago.

1094
00:59:46,630 --> 00:59:48,890
We are in debt up to our eyeballs.

1095
00:59:48,890 --> 00:59:54,420
We've borrowed money from everybody
we can to try and survive.

1096
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,830
I have a household of five
and I'm the sole income.

1097
00:59:59,335 --> 01:00:05,975
Uh, and so it's, it's a new sensation
because my wife and I have been

1098
01:00:05,975 --> 01:00:07,565
through a time where we were jobless.

1099
01:00:08,195 --> 01:00:12,065
But not with my children and my mom
living with us because she lives

1100
01:00:12,065 --> 01:00:17,085
with us, uh, not with this kind
of responsibility and dependence.

1101
01:00:20,525 --> 01:00:23,815
Could you turn this
into a should statement?

1102
01:00:28,885 --> 01:00:31,925
I'm not quite sure how explain.

1103
01:00:33,925 --> 01:00:43,225
Is there a way to answer the or fill in
the blanks from I should dot dot dot what

1104
01:00:43,225 --> 01:00:45,145
comes to mind there when it comes to your.

1105
01:00:46,325 --> 01:00:48,365
the situation you're sharing,
your financial situation.

1106
01:00:50,415 --> 01:00:57,485
I should find a job and I
should have been hired for over

1107
01:00:57,485 --> 01:00:59,325
half the jobs I applied for.

1108
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:04,790
Just with my experience and
skill sets and so it feels very

1109
01:01:09,610 --> 01:01:10,530
hopeless almost

1110
01:01:13,740 --> 01:01:16,590
I don't understand I'm very
confused about why I'm not finding

1111
01:01:16,590 --> 01:01:18,430
a job with the skill sets I bring

1112
01:01:24,430 --> 01:01:27,010
so stress and anxiety in the
beginning was a nine Out of ten.

1113
01:01:27,450 --> 01:01:27,810
Mm hmm.

1114
01:01:29,690 --> 01:01:32,440
You mentioned the word hopeless, right?

1115
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,720
If you had to put a label on it, you
know your situation or how you feel

1116
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:42,050
right now not that situation But your
current state What would you say?

1117
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:49,510
Determined.

1118
01:01:50,610 --> 01:01:51,070
Determined.

1119
01:01:56,770 --> 01:01:57,010
Okay.

1120
01:01:57,030 --> 01:01:58,610
So, write this down for me.

1121
01:01:59,470 --> 01:02:01,940
Um, I should find a job.

1122
01:02:08,910 --> 01:02:09,320
Perfect.

1123
01:02:10,330 --> 01:02:11,180
Say that out loud for me.

1124
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,620
I should find a job.

1125
01:02:20,620 --> 01:02:28,150
Most people, when they use the word
should, need to, or have to, experience

1126
01:02:28,150 --> 01:02:30,340
the feelings of external pressure.

1127
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:35,240
We actually call those categories of
speech, it's, they're in their own

1128
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,420
category, it's called pressure language.

1129
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,095
Most people don't like it when they're
Boss tries to tell them what to do or

1130
01:02:43,095 --> 01:02:45,835
their spouse tries to tell them what
to do or their parents try to tell

1131
01:02:45,835 --> 01:02:48,055
them what to do or the government
tries to tell them what to do.

1132
01:02:48,475 --> 01:02:51,195
In fact, most people don't like
it when they themselves try

1133
01:02:51,195 --> 01:02:53,275
to tell themselves what to do.

1134
01:02:53,875 --> 01:02:59,105
And in fact, earlier today, I thought
to myself, I should drink more water.

1135
01:02:59,475 --> 01:03:02,035
And then I instantly thought the
rebel in me was like, you know what?

1136
01:03:02,075 --> 01:03:02,835
Screw you, Dave.

1137
01:03:03,405 --> 01:03:05,905
And like, it's good for me.

1138
01:03:05,915 --> 01:03:07,225
And you know, I'm not going to do that.

1139
01:03:07,225 --> 01:03:08,045
I'm going to go pour another coffee.

1140
01:03:09,475 --> 01:03:15,595
Um, Words can create different feelings
and emotions in the body and there's

1141
01:03:15,605 --> 01:03:17,355
no right or wrong answer for this.

1142
01:03:18,115 --> 01:03:23,065
Take out the word should and write the
word could and then say that out loud.

1143
01:03:30,565 --> 01:03:32,245
I could find a job.

1144
01:03:35,915 --> 01:03:38,245
Any difference physically
for you with that?

1145
01:03:40,965 --> 01:03:45,275
Not a whole lot, but just
having this conversation, the

1146
01:03:45,275 --> 01:03:46,535
weight feels a little less.

1147
01:03:48,385 --> 01:03:52,865
It felt really like I could
feel a difference as we've said

1148
01:03:52,865 --> 01:03:53,985
some of these things out loud.

1149
01:04:00,615 --> 01:04:06,535
Take out the word could and write the word
ham for me and then read that out loud.

1150
01:04:13,075 --> 01:04:15,315
I can find a job.

1151
01:04:19,745 --> 01:04:22,845
Say that again for me and then
add a big breath at the end.

1152
01:04:22,845 --> 01:04:25,925
And what I'm looking for with the
breath is volume in through your nose.

1153
01:04:26,505 --> 01:04:30,535
Big old breath in, And
length out on the exhale.

1154
01:04:30,605 --> 01:04:32,125
So a long exhale out.

1155
01:04:32,125 --> 01:04:32,495
So it'll

1156
01:04:37,515 --> 01:04:44,475
So repeat that third one for me and
then add that breath in I can find a job

1157
01:04:58,725 --> 01:05:01,805
That's yeah that feels
lighter on the chest

1158
01:05:05,420 --> 01:05:07,460
most likely a couple reasons for that.

1159
01:05:08,510 --> 01:05:08,900
Okay.

1160
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:14,290
The first is that the word could brings
us back into the realm of possibility.

1161
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:22,500
So we go from a lot of pressure to a
land where like, okay, despite recent

1162
01:05:22,570 --> 01:05:27,430
future, you know, past evidence, it
is possible with that rate of speech

1163
01:05:27,460 --> 01:05:29,390
or that type of speech to find a job.

1164
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:35,940
The word can puts it in the
affirmative while adding to

1165
01:05:35,940 --> 01:05:40,260
the possibility potentially
moving it even into probability.

1166
01:05:43,300 --> 01:05:47,320
The breath helps pull us down into
that state where now we can see things

1167
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,640
just a little bit differently, and feel
things a little bit differently without

1168
01:05:51,660 --> 01:05:55,660
the stress of the should statement.

1169
01:05:58,300 --> 01:06:02,630
So I'm going to have you finish this
sentence and type it or write it

1170
01:06:02,630 --> 01:06:09,155
out, whichever one you did there,
uh, I can find a job because dot,

1171
01:06:09,155 --> 01:06:14,125
dot, dot, and give me three of those.

1172
01:06:14,665 --> 01:06:19,965
I can find a job because option A, I
can find a job because B, and because C.

1173
01:06:42,645 --> 01:06:47,635
And when you're done, add the
word breathe at the end of each

1174
01:06:47,635 --> 01:06:49,625
sentence, just as the reminder.

1175
01:06:50,235 --> 01:06:50,495
Right?

1176
01:06:50,495 --> 01:06:56,175
So, I can find a job because Number
one, add the word breathe at the end.

1177
01:06:56,855 --> 01:06:57,965
I can't find a job.

1178
01:06:58,035 --> 01:06:59,995
Number two, add the
word breathe at the end.

1179
01:07:00,415 --> 01:07:03,795
I can't find a job because number
three, add the word breathe at the end.

1180
01:07:13,335 --> 01:07:17,255
And when you're ready, read that out loud.

1181
01:07:17,295 --> 01:07:20,165
The three options and when
you see that word breathe,

1182
01:07:37,645 --> 01:07:39,465
I can find a job.

1183
01:07:40,235 --> 01:07:42,105
I have a valuable skill set.

1184
01:07:50,170 --> 01:07:51,750
I can find a job.

1185
01:07:52,580 --> 01:07:54,880
I have a lot of experience.

1186
01:08:03,740 --> 01:08:05,350
I can find a job.

1187
01:08:05,910 --> 01:08:09,010
I bring value to other
people and to companies.

1188
01:08:10,020 --> 01:08:10,640
Big breath.

1189
01:08:12,330 --> 01:08:13,140
Big exhale.

1190
01:08:19,340 --> 01:08:21,270
Your shoulders just dropped two inches.

1191
01:08:24,010 --> 01:08:24,720
They were up here.

1192
01:08:25,250 --> 01:08:25,940
Now they're down here.

1193
01:08:28,740 --> 01:08:30,680
What do you notice after
reading that out loud?

1194
01:08:32,030 --> 01:08:37,195
It's The pressure isn't near as
much like my chest doesn't feel

1195
01:08:37,205 --> 01:08:38,815
near as tight or heavy right now.

1196
01:08:43,035 --> 01:08:45,205
I am less likely to break down and cry.

1197
01:08:45,305 --> 01:08:47,345
I was getting real close there.

1198
01:08:48,965 --> 01:08:53,175
Uh, my head feels more clear.

1199
01:08:56,165 --> 01:08:56,785
Absolutely.

1200
01:08:57,215 --> 01:08:59,875
Like it's almost a tingling
sensation in my head.

1201
01:09:03,595 --> 01:09:05,235
Our words impact our breath.

1202
01:09:05,285 --> 01:09:06,855
Our breath drives our physiology.

1203
01:09:08,485 --> 01:09:13,955
And so when we have words that affect our
breath, we'll call it negatively though.

1204
01:09:13,955 --> 01:09:15,055
I don't love those.

1205
01:09:15,890 --> 01:09:18,590
That terminology, but when we have
words that affect our breath from the

1206
01:09:18,590 --> 01:09:25,385
context of creating shallow, high in the
chest, high and tight breathing, right?

1207
01:09:28,315 --> 01:09:31,465
Versus that, that's
going to drive our state.

1208
01:09:32,275 --> 01:09:40,855
Now, the best affirmations or
intentions or mantras or, uh, ribeyes

1209
01:09:40,855 --> 01:09:42,505
and t bones to your light wolf.

1210
01:09:43,165 --> 01:09:47,165
come from a prior limiting
belief or a prior statement

1211
01:09:47,175 --> 01:09:49,255
that created tension before.

1212
01:09:49,755 --> 01:09:52,855
So for me, my anchor
statement is, I love myself.

1213
01:09:53,955 --> 01:09:55,085
I love myself.

1214
01:09:55,745 --> 01:10:00,975
And that's because that came from a large
swath of my life where I hated myself.

1215
01:10:01,990 --> 01:10:02,870
Hated myself.

1216
01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:09,490
And so for me, that statement alone can
pull me out of a whole mess of problems.

1217
01:10:12,450 --> 01:10:22,390
For you in this particular situation,
providing the positive outcome and the

1218
01:10:22,420 --> 01:10:31,330
reasons for positive outcome creates an
entirely different internal state and mind

1219
01:10:31,340 --> 01:10:34,380
state as it relates to this situation.

1220
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,120
Now, have you gotten a job
in the last 20 minutes?

1221
01:10:37,940 --> 01:10:38,260
No.

1222
01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:43,320
And action dispels overwhelm.

1223
01:10:43,860 --> 01:10:46,670
Action casts out overwhelm.

1224
01:10:47,350 --> 01:10:53,560
With this positivity, with this, I can
get a job because I've got a great skill

1225
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:58,340
set and I can provide a ton of value
for, you know, other companies, you are

1226
01:10:58,350 --> 01:11:05,580
much more likely to then go out and apply
for a job than, Oh, I should get a job.

1227
01:11:05,590 --> 01:11:06,440
This fucking sucks.

1228
01:11:06,440 --> 01:11:06,470
Right.

1229
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:06,499
Right.

1230
01:11:06,500 --> 01:11:07,590
Et cetera, et cetera.

1231
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:08,210
Excuse my cursing.

1232
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:22,050
Change in physiological state helps
raise the tide for all boats, right?

1233
01:11:22,050 --> 01:11:26,730
The change in physiological state
helps you to be a, in a better

1234
01:11:26,730 --> 01:11:30,290
me, better everyone environment,
meaning your interactions with

1235
01:11:30,290 --> 01:11:32,130
your wife, mother, daughters.

1236
01:11:32,490 --> 01:11:33,190
I'm going to be better.

1237
01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:37,360
Your interaction when you do
walk into that job interview

1238
01:11:37,690 --> 01:11:38,530
is going to be different.

1239
01:11:38,970 --> 01:11:42,130
The interaction on the next podcast
is going to be different and you

1240
01:11:42,130 --> 01:11:43,210
never know who's going to listen.

1241
01:11:43,550 --> 01:11:43,780
Right.

1242
01:11:43,820 --> 01:11:45,640
And what things could come of that.

1243
01:11:46,050 --> 01:11:50,060
And so if you had to put a.

1244
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:56,720
Label on your strongest emotion
right now and rate that 1 to 10.

1245
01:11:56,730 --> 01:12:00,050
What would that be encouraged?

1246
01:12:00,050 --> 01:12:01,799
Say 6 or

1247
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:10,000
7 take that all day long.

1248
01:12:10,010 --> 01:12:11,300
We'll call that a 6.

1249
01:12:11,300 --> 01:12:14,490
5 So we went from a stress and anxiety 9.

1250
01:12:14,490 --> 01:12:16,067
5 to an encouraged 6.

1251
01:12:16,067 --> 01:12:24,000
5 out of 10 and 22 minutes on
something that is a major major

1252
01:12:24,110 --> 01:12:27,825
major thing Part of everybody's life,
which is their financial situation.

1253
01:12:31,505 --> 01:12:36,855
So hashtag story work, hashtag words.

1254
01:12:38,605 --> 01:12:38,915
Yeah.

1255
01:12:38,965 --> 01:12:42,465
No guys, uh, it's, it's not scary.

1256
01:12:42,565 --> 01:12:45,195
It's I, I was a little
anxious to start out with it.

1257
01:12:45,595 --> 01:12:45,935
Right.

1258
01:12:45,935 --> 01:12:46,695
Was that scary?

1259
01:12:46,695 --> 01:12:48,805
You guys have hung out with
us through this whole thing.

1260
01:12:49,865 --> 01:12:51,145
You've heard what's going on.

1261
01:12:52,325 --> 01:12:53,335
This isn't scary.

1262
01:12:53,375 --> 01:12:56,335
This isn't some like woo, woo, crazy.

1263
01:12:57,715 --> 01:12:58,155
Right?

1264
01:12:58,435 --> 01:13:00,345
This is something you can do.

1265
01:13:00,955 --> 01:13:02,415
And I will be honest guys.

1266
01:13:02,415 --> 01:13:05,535
I am always honestly like, really,
my chest doesn't feel as heavy.

1267
01:13:06,755 --> 01:13:08,045
Uh, I feel more positive.

1268
01:13:08,055 --> 01:13:10,355
This is a very difficult subject for me.

1269
01:13:11,065 --> 01:13:14,415
Uh, it's been a lot of stress in
my family for several months now.

1270
01:13:15,475 --> 01:13:20,715
And I do feel better and if nothing
else, I feel better at the moment

1271
01:13:21,525 --> 01:13:23,815
and having that relief is huge.

1272
01:13:25,465 --> 01:13:28,085
And so what, what I would encourage
you to do, Brandon, is, is take

1273
01:13:28,095 --> 01:13:33,235
those three statements that you have
and, you know, edit at your will.

1274
01:13:33,585 --> 01:13:33,925
Right?

1275
01:13:34,235 --> 01:13:35,755
Edit them however you'd like.

1276
01:13:35,795 --> 01:13:37,375
Keep them if that's what you want to do.

1277
01:13:37,815 --> 01:13:42,665
And then write them down or print them off
and put them places where you'll see them.

1278
01:13:43,165 --> 01:13:46,845
Put them in your car or truck, tape
them on the refrigerator, write it on

1279
01:13:46,845 --> 01:13:49,855
your bathroom mirror, keep it by your
bedside table, put it in your journal

1280
01:13:49,855 --> 01:13:51,055
and put it right next to your computer.

1281
01:13:51,575 --> 01:13:55,305
So that now those are the things
that you can say and remind yourself

1282
01:13:55,305 --> 01:13:56,685
of and have them be present.

1283
01:13:57,095 --> 01:14:01,525
You know, if, if you're listening to this
and you've ever trained a dog, always

1284
01:14:01,535 --> 01:14:05,475
have treats in your pocket, pocket,
if you've got a puppy, always, always,

1285
01:14:05,485 --> 01:14:08,055
always, because it's that positive
reinforcement and that positive reminder,

1286
01:14:08,245 --> 01:14:13,825
sit, good boy, treat, read that out
loud, that's the food for the light

1287
01:14:13,875 --> 01:14:16,585
wolf, that's the food for the light wolf.

1288
01:14:16,855 --> 01:14:20,095
So I can't find a job because
I'm skilled and capable.

1289
01:14:20,805 --> 01:14:25,515
The more reps you have of that, the,
again, the more likely you are to take

1290
01:14:25,515 --> 01:14:29,275
action and the more likely you are
to be in a calmer state when you do.

1291
01:14:29,615 --> 01:14:33,345
So listener, for whatever your
should statement was, right?

1292
01:14:34,065 --> 01:14:37,165
Go through that same process,
should to could, could to can,

1293
01:14:37,195 --> 01:14:39,465
can because, and then breathe.

1294
01:14:40,115 --> 01:14:46,525
And whatever that end product is, rep
it, because just like the gym, you

1295
01:14:46,525 --> 01:14:51,315
can't go into the gym one time and do,
you know, eight sets of bicep curls,

1296
01:14:51,315 --> 01:14:52,855
and now you got bigger biceps for life.

1297
01:14:52,865 --> 01:14:54,775
Like, that's not how it works, right?

1298
01:14:54,805 --> 01:14:57,695
It takes reps, repetitions,
and consistency.

1299
01:14:58,585 --> 01:15:03,715
And unlike the gym, unlike fitness
and unlike health wellness, how you

1300
01:15:03,715 --> 01:15:07,345
feel about yourself and your current
life situation can change like that.

1301
01:15:09,945 --> 01:15:14,375
Now guys, if this is ringing a bell for
you, okay, you, you know, you're sitting

1302
01:15:14,375 --> 01:15:18,005
here listening to this, you know, there
are some things weighing you down and

1303
01:15:18,005 --> 01:15:19,355
that might be a negative self talk.

1304
01:15:19,355 --> 01:15:23,315
That might be anxiety, stress, any number
of things that are weighing you down.

1305
01:15:25,325 --> 01:15:27,755
This is another tool for the toolbox guys.

1306
01:15:27,755 --> 01:15:29,595
This is another opportunity and option.

1307
01:15:30,455 --> 01:15:33,755
You know, we're all about presenting
you guys with options and pools for your

1308
01:15:33,775 --> 01:15:36,875
toolbox to live the best life for you.

1309
01:15:37,685 --> 01:15:39,405
If you're connecting with this.

1310
01:15:40,105 --> 01:15:43,545
If you're connecting with Dave, right?

1311
01:15:44,395 --> 01:15:46,635
You can start your first,
your journey this way.

1312
01:15:47,465 --> 01:15:52,335
Dave is very generously offered that
for my first three listeners who

1313
01:15:52,335 --> 01:15:58,315
respond with the subject line story
work to info at the fallible man.

1314
01:15:58,535 --> 01:15:59,045
com.

1315
01:16:00,005 --> 01:16:02,069
He will provide my first three listeners.

1316
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:08,450
Respond to the, like I said, email info at
the fallible man, subject line story work.

1317
01:16:09,260 --> 01:16:13,070
They will take my first three
listeners who respond with that and

1318
01:16:13,070 --> 01:16:14,620
give you a free session with him.

1319
01:16:15,870 --> 01:16:16,340
Okay.

1320
01:16:16,620 --> 01:16:17,890
I have the promo codes.

1321
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,020
So email me info at the fallible man.

1322
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,400
com with the subject line story work.

1323
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:26,180
If you want to try this out for yourself,
if you want to give this a shot and

1324
01:16:26,180 --> 01:16:30,480
see what it can do for you, Dave is
giving you an opportunity for that.

1325
01:16:31,215 --> 01:16:32,465
Which thank you for that, Dave.

1326
01:16:32,465 --> 01:16:33,585
I appreciate that greatly.

1327
01:16:33,845 --> 01:16:34,385
You're welcome.

1328
01:16:35,725 --> 01:16:39,385
This is not something, one of the things
I want to do with this was demystify.

1329
01:16:40,195 --> 01:16:40,605
Right.

1330
01:16:41,735 --> 01:16:44,015
As guys, we tend to be a
little hesitant for new things.

1331
01:16:45,430 --> 01:16:46,620
I certainly am.

1332
01:16:46,670 --> 01:16:47,430
We all know this.

1333
01:16:47,430 --> 01:16:50,580
If you listen to the show for any length
of time, I'm not a new thing kind of guy.

1334
01:16:51,540 --> 01:16:54,920
So I wanted you to see in
action what you're, what you're

1335
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,010
actually looking at doing.

1336
01:16:56,340 --> 01:16:56,850
Okay.

1337
01:16:57,810 --> 01:17:03,790
Dave may be exactly what you need,
or if he's not exactly what you

1338
01:17:03,790 --> 01:17:08,065
need, You're still going to benefit
from going through this practice

1339
01:17:08,065 --> 01:17:10,275
with him and trying it out, right?

1340
01:17:10,275 --> 01:17:11,925
It's not going to hurt you.

1341
01:17:12,035 --> 01:17:13,015
It can only help you.

1342
01:17:14,585 --> 01:17:16,585
Dave, what is next for Dave Robinson?

1343
01:17:18,795 --> 01:17:19,585
It's a great question.

1344
01:17:19,615 --> 01:17:23,675
Um, I've been on defense for
the past three or four years.

1345
01:17:23,685 --> 01:17:26,285
I've been playing defense
and special teams, right?

1346
01:17:26,345 --> 01:17:28,465
And Defense wins championships.

1347
01:17:28,525 --> 01:17:29,355
I understand that.

1348
01:17:29,375 --> 01:17:31,625
And in today's NFL, you
got to put up points.

1349
01:17:31,735 --> 01:17:33,065
You got to score points, right?

1350
01:17:33,065 --> 01:17:37,625
So, um, this year I've made
my first hires already.

1351
01:17:37,715 --> 01:17:43,505
Um, I actually hired my fiancee, Ruslana,
to help me out on a bunch of the business

1352
01:17:43,505 --> 01:17:48,550
side of things that are not in the realm
of What I love and, and, uh, you know,

1353
01:17:48,550 --> 01:17:54,500
the fulfillment, everything else she
helps me out with, um, we've got a, a

1354
01:17:54,620 --> 01:17:59,640
dream and desire to find a homestead a
couple of hours West of Richmond in the

1355
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:07,890
mountains and expand from 30 rabbits to
sheeps and goats and cows and chickens

1356
01:18:07,890 --> 01:18:10,380
and dogs and the whole nine yards.

1357
01:18:10,380 --> 01:18:14,790
And so, um, we've got a very clear
vision and dream of what we want to do.

1358
01:18:14,830 --> 01:18:15,840
And I know that.

1359
01:18:16,335 --> 01:18:17,155
It's going to happen.

1360
01:18:17,165 --> 01:18:20,905
My word of the year is inevitable, and
whether that's this year, next year, the

1361
01:18:20,905 --> 01:18:25,775
year after that, whatever it may be, I
know where I want to go, and I've got a

1362
01:18:25,775 --> 01:18:30,355
pretty clear path up the mountain, so,
um, I'm going to keep working stories, and

1363
01:18:30,725 --> 01:18:37,010
keep building, and helping folks out, and,
Uh, get to that point where I can run up

1364
01:18:37,010 --> 01:18:39,020
my own mountain and fish in my own stream.

1365
01:18:39,700 --> 01:18:40,320
Golly day.

1366
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Does that not sound awesome?

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01:18:43,130 --> 01:18:47,050
I want, I want it.

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01:18:47,460 --> 01:18:48,340
Yeah, I know.

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01:18:48,370 --> 01:18:48,700
I know.

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01:18:48,700 --> 01:18:49,180
I know.

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01:18:50,900 --> 01:18:53,210
Where's the best place for
people to connect with you, Dave?

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01:18:54,340 --> 01:18:55,210
Two places.

1373
01:18:55,270 --> 01:18:56,270
Uh, I'm on.

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instagram@daverobinson.coach.

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Instagram is Dave robinson.coach, and
my website is work your stories.com.

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01:19:08,025 --> 01:19:11,055
Again, www.workyourstories.com.

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01:19:11,465 --> 01:19:12,545
Um, you can check out.

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01:19:13,075 --> 01:19:16,875
testimonials, check out, um,
you know, some, some more

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01:19:16,875 --> 01:19:18,205
information about story work.

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01:19:18,215 --> 01:19:22,175
You can book a discovery call with
me there and, uh, find out more

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01:19:22,175 --> 01:19:23,565
whether this, this works for you.

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01:19:23,885 --> 01:19:29,205
And if you want to keep in touch with the
rabbits and the workouts and some other

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01:19:29,205 --> 01:19:30,845
fun stuff, then follow me on Instagram.

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01:19:31,915 --> 01:19:32,405
All right.

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01:19:32,935 --> 01:19:37,785
Now I know you guys are all
really worried about how long

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did the dinosaurs live on earth.

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01:19:39,820 --> 01:19:41,770
You said 200 million plus years.

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01:19:41,775 --> 01:19:48,250
The answer was 150 to 200 million
years was D not C . I know

1389
01:19:48,250 --> 01:19:50,560
everybody's like hanging on their
edge of the sea for that one, right?

1390
01:19:50,620 --> 01:19:51,670
Oh, for sure, for sure.

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01:19:51,675 --> 01:19:53,200
I I, I love the callback.

1392
01:19:53,200 --> 01:20:01,230
I was confident it wasn't d and it was,
you know, I'll buy it, I'll take it.

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01:20:01,230 --> 01:20:02,010
I'll take your word for it.

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01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:03,300
150 to 200 million.

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01:20:03,850 --> 01:20:06,070
Well, I looked it up on the
internet, so you know how you

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01:20:06,070 --> 01:20:07,240
know it's gotta real That's true.

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01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:08,050
That is right.

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01:20:08,050 --> 01:20:11,800
It's gotta be real . Dave, wrap us out.

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01:20:12,860 --> 01:20:17,020
No matter what we talked about today, what
is the most important takeaway you want

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people to hear today from this episode?

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Breathe, breathe.

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01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:25,280
There's my, my favorite quote
is a Viktor Frankl quote.

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01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,560
He wrote man's search for
meaning tremendous book.

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01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:32,900
If you haven't read it, um, in
between stimulus and response,

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01:20:32,900 --> 01:20:37,940
there is a space in that space is
our power to choose our response.

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01:20:38,490 --> 01:20:40,910
In our response lies our
growth and our freedom.

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01:20:41,530 --> 01:20:46,590
So in between stimulus, what happens to
you, response, how you respond, there's

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01:20:46,590 --> 01:20:48,790
a space that I like to call the wedge.

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01:20:49,170 --> 01:20:53,290
And any, any personal development
work is all about expanding that

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01:20:53,290 --> 01:20:57,510
wedge between the stuff that
happens to you and how you react.

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01:20:57,860 --> 01:21:01,370
And in that wedge, no matter how big
or small that wedge is, you can always,

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01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,234
you can always take a breath and relax.

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01:21:08,405 --> 01:21:12,995
That will change how you react, whether
you do that at work, you do that at

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01:21:12,995 --> 01:21:16,745
home when you're dealing with your kids
or your spouse, whether you're working

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01:21:16,745 --> 01:21:21,925
through something super positive or super
negative, anything in between, breathe

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01:21:22,665 --> 01:21:28,725
and your life will change guys for myself
and Dave be better tomorrow because what

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01:21:28,725 --> 01:21:30,225
you do today, we'll see on the next one.

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01:21:31,535 --> 01:21:35,795
This has been the fellow man
podcast, your home for everything

1419
01:21:35,865 --> 01:21:37,995
man, husband and father.

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01:21:38,745 --> 01:21:41,125
Be sure to subscribe so
you don't miss a show.

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01:21:41,895 --> 01:21:44,594
Head over to www.

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01:21:44,595 --> 01:21:45,605
thefallibleman.

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01:21:45,605 --> 01:21:54,175
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Dave Robinson

Master Storywork Coach

As a holistic mental health and mindset coach, Dave Robinson has had the privilege of working with 100+ podcast hosts on topics such as managing stress, anxiety, mental health, and thriving in the emotional challenges of sports, entrepreneurship, corporate, and family relationships. That's why Dave is ready to share tips from his experience to help your audience explore their past / present / and future through a methodology called Storywork.

Dave is a Master Storywork Coach with a past immersed in financial planning. A turning point arrived in his life in 2017 when he discovered his true calling was not in delivering numbers, but in facilitating wellness transformations. Using his vast experience in interpersonal relationships, he assists individuals in navigating the complex labyrinth of their minds by dissecting thoughts, emotions, and behaviors. Dave’s philosophy is built around the potency of words and the breath; they hold the power to elevate us or crush us, and he’s on a quest to teach people how to harness both in order to improve their overall well-being.

As he is the most experienced coach in his field with over 1,100 sessions facilitated, Dave is ready to dive into real-time Storywork on your show. His work may be rooted in individual transformation, but its impact stretches across the planet by contributing to a broader narrative of global mental health. His contagious can-do attitude will leave your audience feeling hopeful, calm, recharged, and inspired to go LIVE LIFE (in all caps)!