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Nightmare Fuel: Confronting The Horrific Reality Of Child Sex Trafficking

If you're feeling overwhelmed and powerless about the prevalence of human trafficking, thinking it's a problem that happens elsewhere, then you are not alone! Despite thinking you're not contributing to the problem, the reality is that inaction allow...

If you're feeling overwhelmed and powerless about the prevalence of human trafficking, thinking it's a problem that happens elsewhere, then you are not alone! Despite thinking you're not contributing to the problem, the reality is that inaction allows it to persist right under your nose. It's time to take personal responsibility and make a change.

"The worst mistake that we could make is saying I'm not doing that really bad things. That means I'm not part of the problem, right? I'm going to say no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying we're all part of the problem."  - Alan Smyth

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Understand the impact of men's role in combatting exploitation.
  • Discover shocking human trafficking statistics and their real-life impact.
  • Learn the importance of storytelling in raising awareness of exploitation.
  • Take action to create a compassionate society and make a difference.
  • Explore ways to be a positive role model in your family and community.

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My special guest is Alan Smyth

Alan Smyth is an influential figure in the fight against human trafficking, with a significant role as co-leader of the LA County Regional Human Trafficking Task Force and a key member of Saving Innocence. His experience encompasses over a decade of dedicated work, focusing on combatting exploitation and providing crucial support to victims. Alan also plays a pivotal role in the foster family agency within Saving Innocence, emphasizing the importance of creating safe and supportive environments for children affected by trafficking. His extensive involvement in addressing human trafficking equips him with valuable insights into the complex challenges and necessary interventions required to tackle this pervasive issue.

                  (Pictured: Alan Smyth and Co Author Jessica Midkiff)

The key moments in this episode are:
00:00:00 - The Problem with Human Trafficking
00:01:22 - Introduction to the Fallible Man Podcast
00:02:28 - Getting to Know Alan Smith
00:09:11 - Saving Innocence's Mission
00:13:39 - National Attention on Human Trafficking
00:14:10 - Impact of a Movie
00:16:44 - Different Faces of Human Trafficking
00:20:29 - Statistics on Human Trafficking
00:24:03 - The Birth of "Men Fight For Me"
00:27:56 - Exciting Announcement
00:27:59 - Announcement of the Audio Book Release
00:29:11 - Impact of Personal Storytelling
00:32:41 - Emotional Impact of Survivor Stories
00:35:02 - Call to Action and Purpose of the Book
00:39:10 - Practical Steps for Involvement
00:41:37 - Confronting Human Exploitation
00:42:32 - Being the Right Role Model
00:43:12 - Alarming Statistics
00:45:25 - Taking Personal Responsibility
00:47:55 - Call to Action

 

Related Videos

Human Trafficking Awareness: Saving Innocence Part 1
https://www.thefalliblemanpodcast.com/human-trafficking-awareness-saving-innocence-alan-smyth/

Human Trafficking Awareness: Saving Innocence Part 2

https://www.thefalliblemanpodcast.com/human-trafficking-awareness-saving-innocence-jessica-midkiff/

 

 

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Transcript
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Guys, this is on us and you might
say, I'm not out there buying sex with

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anybody, especially a 12 year old.

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Are you kidding me?

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Like I'm not doing that.

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I'm going to say great.

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Good.

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That's a good place to start.

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I'm glad you're not.

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Most guys aren't the worst mistake
that we could make is saying I'm

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not doing that really bad things.

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That means I'm not part
of the problem, right?

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I'm gonna say no, that's
not what I'm saying.

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I'm saying we're all part of the problem
because if you're not actively down that

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dark path, Participating in this brutal
crime, then you are passively allowing

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it to happen right under your nose.

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And that's, that isn't any better.

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We're complicit in the very things that
we detest if we know about it and we don't

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do anything to combat it or to stop it.

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Here's the million dollar question.

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How do men like us reach our full
potential growing into the men

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we dream of being while taking
care of our responsibilities?

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Working, being good husbands, fathers,
and still take care of ourselves?

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Well, that's the big question.

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In this podcast, we'll help you
answer those questions and more.

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My name is Brent and welcome
to the Fallible Man Podcast.

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Welcome to the Fallible Man Podcast.

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Your home for all things
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That's our private community.

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podcasts that really helps us today.

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I'm really excited.

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Because this episode, we're welcoming
back a former guest and an old friend.

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He's the CEO of saving innocence, which
I'm going to let him tell you all about.

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Alan Smith, Alan, welcome back
to the founding man podcast.

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Great, Brent.

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Thanks for having me.

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It's fun to be back
after a couple of years.

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I'm, I'm really excited about
this followup because you guys

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got some exciting things going on.

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Alan, we start things a little
bit lighter these days, just to

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kind of ease our way into things.

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So, in your own words, today, in
this moment, who is Alan Smith?

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Well, that's a great question.

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I'll give you the highlight.

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In this last year, I became a
grandfather for the first time.

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So, uh, Alan Smith, to answer
your question, is a grandpa

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for the first time ever.

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Congratulations, bro.

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That's awesome.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's, uh, it's all the cliches
are correct and, uh, it's, it's fun

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to watch and fun to be part of and
fun to watch your son who, you know,

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it's just like a split screen in my
brain, my son, who's the father, but

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I'm also seeing him as a knucklehead,
breaking everything and ruining

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things and driving as crazy as a kid.

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And now he's got his own kids.

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So that's pretty crazy.

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That's, that's so cool.

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I love seeing people make that journey.

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I thought my own parents personally,
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they started having grandkids.

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I was like, Who are you?

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This is not the same
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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, no, it's very fun.

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But beyond that, you already mentioned it.

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Uh, I lead an anti human
trafficking agency based in

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LA called saving innocence.

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So my day job is, uh, doing everything
I can do to make that organization

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thrive and do all the work that's
in front of us, which is too much.

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I wish it was shrinking.

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I wish we had less to do, but
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We have more to do all the time.

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And, uh, And it keeps me busy to say that

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guys, like I said, Alan is coming back.

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This is the second time or actually
third time, uh, somewhere in there.

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Uh, I got to do a series with
him and his coauthor of the book.

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Jessica make a couple of years
ago in season three, we're going

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to dive deeper into that in a
little bit, Alan, if you could have

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any superpower, what would it be

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if I could have any superpower?

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Wow, that's a great question.

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Um, I think I'd want to fly
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around and get away from the L.

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A.

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Traffic.

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How's that sound?

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I've only been to L.

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A.

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Once, but I totally get that.

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And I'm sure it's gotten
worse since I was there.

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It's never getting better.

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That's for sure.

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It's only getting worse.

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If I was to sit down with your family
for dinner, what's one embarrassing

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story they were telling you on me?

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Hmm.

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That's a great question.

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What would the family?

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What embarrassing story?

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My wife just walked in sharing.

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What embarrassing story with
the family tell about me?

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I

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don't know if your audience is ready
for this, but there was one moment

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when I had a bowel misfunction.

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We could call it that and was driving home
on the freeway and stuck in all this L.

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A.

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traffic.

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And pulled off the freeway and almost made
it to the bathroom of the quick stop, but

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barely not quite, and it was not good.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah.

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How about that?

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Yeah, no, that's good.

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That's good,

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right?

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But you know what?

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It wasn't truly embarrassing
in the moment because no one

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knew about it except for me.

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So, um, in order for it to be actually
embarrassing, other people would have

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had to known and seen it, but it was
just me living out that brutal moment.

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Um, but yeah,

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now it's on public record.

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yeah, it is exactly.

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It can be truly embarrassing later.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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What's your best playground insult?

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My best playground

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insult.

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You're going to get me in
trouble on this, on this podcast.

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I didn't know you're coming
to incriminate me on things.

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Uh, this isn't truly mine, but what
came to my mind is, uh, from one of

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the great all time movies, The Sandlot.

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Tell me you've seen The Sandlot.

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Oh, yeah.

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And, uh, I don't actually mean
this for real, trust me, whoever's

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listening to this, but one of the
great, one of the great lines, when

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the two groups of boys were arguing
about who's had the better baseball

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team, and, uh, one of the boys said
to the boy, you play ball like a girl.

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And for those boys in that setting, and
for any 10 or 12 year old boy, pretty

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much that's That would be an insult,
even though, you know, there's a lot

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of great people out there for sure.

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Well, it's not like we are all original.

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I mean, right, right.

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We have like an entire generation,
like Gen X, the go to, like every

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time I ever ask that anybody born
in Gen X is generally your mom.

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Yeah.

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It's your mom joke, always.

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Right, right.

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That's good.

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Purchase of 100 or less that you
made in the last year has had

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the biggest impact in your life.

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The purchase of 100 or
less, is that what you said?

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Mm hmm.

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So I spent a hundred dollars
or less on something.

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And what was the impact of it?

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Is that what you're telling me?

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Biggest impact in your life,
most useful thing you bought.

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Oh boy.

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I should've got the notes
before we were meeting here.

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And in the, in the six minutes of time
that I would have had since we, since

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we set this meeting up and now we're
doing it, um, the biggest impact of

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my life on a hundred dollars or less.

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I don't know that I have a
thing that I had purchased that

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would answer that question.

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But, um, how about last.

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Last weekend, my wife and I went
out for a great dinner and, uh,

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had a wonderful evening together
and it was about a hundred dollars.

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How's that?

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That's, that's more than fair, right?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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You know, it's one of those things,
everybody has their scale of what

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really moves the needle for them.

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Right.

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There is no wrong answer
in this first part.

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Yeah.

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Biggest pet peeve.

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Uh, my biggest pet peeve, um, probably
when I'm driving on this LA traffic that

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we've mentioned to a couple of times.

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When you have people in the wrong
lanes, they're driving too slow in

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the fast lane or they're like, they
generally don't know what to do.

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They're, they're overwhelmed with all
the traffic and they're not doing well.

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And it's struggling.

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They're causing a problem for everybody.

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That's probably it.

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That'd be orange juice,
pulp, no pulp, some pulp.

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I'm good with some pulp.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I'm good.

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I'm not anti pulp, but I'm fine.

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Whatever you put in front of
me, if I'm drinking orange

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juice, I'll be good with it.

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But I think a little bit, say
kind of half pulp would be great.

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All right.

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What's one thing that everybody should
know about you before we dig in today?

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Before we begin.

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So we haven't begun yet.

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Is that what you're telling me?

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Um, what should they know about me?

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Well, I already told you
I'm a new grandfather.

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I already told you I'm
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Um, let's say that I, I care
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And I'm going to do my best to
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Uh, I had a, a friend actually, and
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about, but the, the gentleman who wrote
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a former US ambassador, and he actually
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He and he, he talked about his
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wrong things right, and very simple.

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And, um, and I said, I, I ascribe to that.

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That's, that's what you
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So I'm trying to make wrong things, right?

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Not every wrong thing out
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In this one space of human trafficking
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the wrong things right in the lives
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Guys, we've been getting spent a
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missed him back in season three.

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And I will be sure and have those
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So you can go back to that series
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You absolutely will want to follow up
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give you more context to what we're
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part of the show, we're going to dive
into Alan's book men fight for me.

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Um, you guys know, I read
a lot of books for my show.

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This is the most important
book I've ever read, period.

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And so I absolutely love
having Alan back on.

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We're going to talk about what's
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and how you can get involved and
how you can make a difference.

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We'll be back in just a few
minutes with Alan Smith.

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I'm calling on all men right now to stand
up and stand against this horrific crime.

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It is estimated over 300, 000
children are being sex trafficked

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in the United States alone.

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Every single day.

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I want you to get on your social media.

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I want you to follow saving innocence.

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org or fight for me.

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net.

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Both of these charities are
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in the United States and abroad.

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You can donate at www.

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thefallibleman.

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com slash shop and buy our
inhuman trafficking merchandise

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and all proceeds will be.

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Given indefinitely to saving innocence.

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You can also go to www.

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org slash donate and donate
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It is time for us to fight and stop this
horrible thing known as human trafficking.

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Guys, we're back with Alan Smith from
saving innocence, and we just spent a

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few minutes to get to know him as we
like to do on the show and who he is.

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Now, Alan, I'm going to give you
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For people who haven't heard you
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your episode previously, tell us about
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uh, saving innocence is a 14 year old
anti human trafficking agency based in

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Los Angeles and we are boots on the ground
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showing up, uh, in moments of crisis.

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Um, for the 1st 12 of the 14 years,
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Child victims of sex trafficking.

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Um, there are different
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There's different ages that it affects.

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But we, our specialty, have been minors,
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12, 13, 14, in that range right there.

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That's the average age of entry
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And, um, it's been our honor to walk
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back on their feet and reclaim, uh, the
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And, um, there's a lot that goes
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I said the first 12 years, uh,
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leadership of the LA County Regional
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with about 60 different agencies, a
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federal agencies, Homeland Security
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agencies on the ground in LA and, um,
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within Saving Innocence, specifically
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brutal experience of, of being trafficked.

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Looking for families, healthy,
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families that can be trained by us.

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family that they've been denied.

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So that's, that's the main,
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And, um, we're, we're
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to,

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to, uh, to help those that have
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crime before it even happens.

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Now, earlier this year, the movie
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grateful because it, it brought
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something that a lot of people aren't
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I think most people look at
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outside our country, right?

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That's happening other places.

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That doesn't happen here.

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And so that brought it to the main stage.

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Has that helped you guys
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Yeah, maybe.

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Um, I'm sorry, were you done?

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Have a little more spotlight on it?

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And there was some, there was
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We were getting emails and.

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People who hadn't thought about
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seeing that movie as surprised Hollywood
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it was getting and, um, while the movie
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human trafficking than we face here
domestically, it still was shocking to

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sort of sitting for two hours and see
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different than it does here, which it
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interest and people saying, what can I do?

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How can I help?

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And, um, you know, I was grateful
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Um, now I'd love to see a high quality
version of a movie made, uh, for movie

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number two of, um, you know, domestic
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and, you know, with the American kids.

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Um, and now that, now they softened
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willing to, you know, make and
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They might be willing to do a
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to what's happening here.

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And that'll be a great
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Do you guys have any ends to get contact
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one or something might, you might
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Yeah, we've been in contact
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And, um, I joined a panel with, uh,
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the real life guy and some other
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And, um, so I, you know, we're not
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movie, but we'll, uh, we'll cheer them
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all the money and the actors and all
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We'll be cheering them on when they do.

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Well, yeah, but hopefully you guys will
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be, we'd be happy to.

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We care that it's done correctly and
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wanted to bring us into that, we'd
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it, help it be told the right way.

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That would be important for us.

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Now, you said.

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Sound of freedom portrayed something
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of people that is their limit, right?

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That's this is the newest exposure
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I read your book two years ago, my
heart was so Pained at realities.

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I had no idea happened In my community, in
my area, you say that movie was different.

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So tell us more about what we're seeing
here in our country and our communities.

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Well, if any of your listeners
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a hundred percent and a international
portrayal of human trafficking.

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And, um, so it looks very different.

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They, they, they portrayed, cams
showing, you know, kids getting

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just kidnapped, taken off the
street by a car that drives by.

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And then sort of sold away in a cargo
ship and going to some other distant land.

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And, and then there, you know, in some
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being available for sex trafficking.

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So while all that stuff, I don't, I'm
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things didn't happen or hasn't happened,
but what's different is in our, you

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know, big, uh, American cities and
really the small ones too, but in our

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setting in, in LA and other cities like
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Kidnapping off the street grab throw
somebody in a van and whisk them away.

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Although that has happened It's a
more insidious Usually a kid that's

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in the foster care program already.

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They've already had their family
blown up and Some older boy comes in

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portraying Looking like he's a boyfriend
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depending and kind of groom, sir, is
the term there's a grooming process.

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It could take weeks or months
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And they start a relationship and
he tells her everything that she's,

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you know, always wanted to know that
she's beautiful and, and worthy and

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how he wants to have a life with her.

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And, and he sort of subtly.

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Slides in this idea of getting paid to
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but it won't be very long, just
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We just have to make some money so we
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together, which she's always dreamed
of having a great life with somebody

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who's going to take care of her.

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So it's, it's, it's, it's this, like I
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call it, there's predators out there
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usually that means someone that's younger.

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And, uh, when, when that young girl has
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He has bad intentions from moment
one, but because largely she hasn't

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seen a good example of a healthy
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can't really tell the difference.

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It may or may not be obvious, but
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So that's what, that's what's happening
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Yeah, I love the movie Taken, you know,
Liam Neeson and, and, uh, you know,

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it's kind of the father's pursuit and
he sort of blows up everybody in the

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movie that should get blown up and
like, you know, like I'm in on all that.

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But it's not a great, accurate
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human trafficking looks like.

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It's not usually that shocking kidnapping.

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Um, it's not usually being handcuffed,
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It's usually, uh, this relationship.

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And the young girl doesn't
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she's being trafficked.

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She just thinks maybe she's in a
domestic violence relationship.

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And he'll be her, he'll make her do
things she doesn't want to do, and then

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he'll come, I'm so sorry, I'll apologize
to you, and it'll never happen again.

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And then it happens again, it's sort
of this domestic violence cycle of

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abuse, that, um, she has no way out of.

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She can't figure out how to get
out of it, and if she tries to

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run, then it will get real violent.

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If it hasn't already,
it'll get real violent.

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She's not allowed to leave,
she's not allowed to choose.

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And, um, that's the cycle
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cities, with our American born U.

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S.

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citizens.

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And, um, it is happening in a
shocking way overseas, but that's

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not the only place it's happening.

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Alan, uh, we're going to talk
about the book in a minute, but

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guys respond to stats, right?

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And Padromalee, as you know, my
listeners are male for the most part.

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We do have a couple of girls who listened
to us and we do appreciate you ladies.

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Thank you.

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Uh, stats help men process things.

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So give us some numbers to put this

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in perspective.

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Yeah, if you, if you pull back
and zoom out to globally, um, the

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international justice mission who
worked internationally predominantly

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or exclusively, they recently said
they think there's 45 to 50 million,

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um, slaves worldwide, meaning human
trafficking, human trafficking victims.

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It's called the modern day slavery.

430
00:21:07,684 --> 00:21:12,375
And so some 45 to 50 million
vulnerable people around the world.

431
00:21:12,765 --> 00:21:15,375
I don't know how that compares the
different sizes of countries, but,

432
00:21:15,415 --> 00:21:16,925
um, it's, that's not a small number.

433
00:21:17,545 --> 00:21:18,985
If you come into our country.

434
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,400
People that count things usually all agree
upon the fact there's at least 300, 000

435
00:21:23,450 --> 00:21:28,370
children being, um, trafficked for sex
here in our country, predominantly U.

436
00:21:28,370 --> 00:21:28,520
S.

437
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,100
born American citizens.

438
00:21:31,019 --> 00:21:33,189
We did some work with the state
of Texas several years ago.

439
00:21:33,189 --> 00:21:34,940
They came to us and
said, we got a problem.

440
00:21:34,979 --> 00:21:35,840
Can we talk to you?

441
00:21:36,170 --> 00:21:36,949
We'd love some help.

442
00:21:36,990 --> 00:21:40,569
So we consulted with them for a
couple of years and they determined

443
00:21:41,269 --> 00:21:44,849
through their metrics and their
study that in Texas they had 90, 000.

444
00:21:45,330 --> 00:21:48,480
victims, minors being trafficked
for sex just in Texas.

445
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,170
So, you know, you start adding that up.

446
00:21:52,389 --> 00:21:56,519
You go to Los Angeles, go to Miami, you
go to New York and everywhere in between,

447
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,409
um, I think 300, 000 is really low.

448
00:22:00,509 --> 00:22:01,570
It's, I think it's a lot bigger.

449
00:22:01,570 --> 00:22:05,689
It's, it's a hard crime to
quantify because it's, it's in

450
00:22:05,689 --> 00:22:07,110
the shadows, it's in the darkness.

451
00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:11,320
And, um, you know, it's not like,
Somebody robbing a 7 Eleven.

452
00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:13,890
They know exactly how many 7
Elevens got robbed last year.

453
00:22:14,010 --> 00:22:16,570
You know, there's an address,
there's security footage, like,

454
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,870
they know where the stores are,
they know when they get robbed.

455
00:22:19,639 --> 00:22:20,450
Uh, this is different.

456
00:22:20,780 --> 00:22:24,190
These are, these are kids that
are in the system already.

457
00:22:24,889 --> 00:22:27,500
Uh, some would call them throwaway kids.

458
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,720
When they go missing, nobody
goes looking for them.

459
00:22:30,259 --> 00:22:32,669
So it's hard to know exactly
how many are out there.

460
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,379
But, um, I think there's
easily a half a million.

461
00:22:36,235 --> 00:22:40,165
Of our kids out there from our
communities, um being brutalized

462
00:22:40,165 --> 00:22:41,535
and abused in this horrific way

463
00:22:43,175 --> 00:22:47,875
guys Let that let that register
and sink in okay For sure.

464
00:22:48,315 --> 00:22:50,485
You're saying the experts
are agreeing on 300, 000.

465
00:22:51,565 --> 00:22:53,165
Alan's been doing this for a while now.

466
00:22:53,165 --> 00:22:56,565
He is deep in this world and is
thinking the numbers at half a million.

467
00:22:57,635 --> 00:22:59,945
That's that's every month
in the United States.

468
00:23:00,444 --> 00:23:01,025
Is that correct?

469
00:23:01,925 --> 00:23:03,975
Well, it's just at all times.

470
00:23:03,975 --> 00:23:05,874
I mean, it's, it's every day basically.

471
00:23:05,874 --> 00:23:06,154
Yeah.

472
00:23:06,154 --> 00:23:10,634
Because when they're working, when
they're quote working, um, as you met my

473
00:23:10,634 --> 00:23:14,114
co author, Jessica, last time we were on
together and then the book, uh, men fight

474
00:23:14,175 --> 00:23:17,335
for me, she talks about the fact and the
little promo, I don't think I show it

475
00:23:17,335 --> 00:23:18,614
here, just put it on your other channels.

476
00:23:18,615 --> 00:23:22,330
But, um, She even says I
typically have between 10 sexual

477
00:23:22,330 --> 00:23:23,440
encounters every single day.

478
00:23:24,340 --> 00:23:31,550
And so that's just one girl, one young
girl, 10 a day, times 365 days in a year.

479
00:23:31,580 --> 00:23:34,040
Maybe, maybe a slow day here
or there, but not really.

480
00:23:34,849 --> 00:23:37,550
So you measure, you know, multiply
that by hundreds of thousands

481
00:23:37,550 --> 00:23:38,909
and the numbers go off the chart.

482
00:23:39,210 --> 00:23:40,109
It's mind boggling.

483
00:23:42,169 --> 00:23:47,110
And guys, we're going to talk
about the book a little bit.

484
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:49,080
And then I am going to share that promo.

485
00:23:49,790 --> 00:23:55,210
Uh, But before we get to this promo,
because part of the, part of the occasion

486
00:23:55,220 --> 00:23:59,570
for Alan jumping back on is they've
taken the boat to a whole nother level.

487
00:23:59,639 --> 00:24:02,600
But before we go to there, I want
to talk about the book a little bit.

488
00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:10,199
So Alan coauthored this book, men fight
for me with not just one of his coworkers

489
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,220
there, Jessica's survivor, but also
he, he talks to a lot of survivors.

490
00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:18,180
He, women he's worked with to officials.

491
00:24:18,785 --> 00:24:24,175
And put together, you even, you even
talked to a trafficker, which was

492
00:24:24,205 --> 00:24:26,945
mind boggling in the book, because.

493
00:24:27,565 --> 00:24:29,835
I, I wanted to hate them just instantly.

494
00:24:30,875 --> 00:24:34,935
And that part of the book just
caught me off guard so much.

495
00:24:36,205 --> 00:24:37,645
Tell us about the book.

496
00:24:37,704 --> 00:24:38,845
Tell us about Mimphi for me.

497
00:24:39,955 --> 00:24:40,255
Yeah.

498
00:24:40,255 --> 00:24:44,585
About, um, I don't know, five years
ago or six years ago, I was at a, an

499
00:24:44,585 --> 00:24:49,694
awareness training event, uh, at a church
on a Saturday and Jessica, who you just

500
00:24:49,695 --> 00:24:54,235
mentioned was on a panel along with
Kim, our founder of Saving Innocence.

501
00:24:54,275 --> 00:24:56,205
And there was a number of other
people there that are, you know,

502
00:24:56,205 --> 00:24:58,085
having this conversation, a
couple hundred people in the room.

503
00:24:59,105 --> 00:25:02,580
And, uh, Right, sitting next to
Jessica was a woman named Rachel

504
00:25:02,590 --> 00:25:04,180
Thomas, who since has become a friend.

505
00:25:04,180 --> 00:25:06,840
I didn't know her until
that, that moment, that day.

506
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:13,179
Um, but she was telling her story and
how she had been lured in and swept into

507
00:25:13,180 --> 00:25:15,000
trafficking when she went away to college.

508
00:25:15,390 --> 00:25:19,920
Um, and she's in the middle of
telling her story and her trauma.

509
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,090
And at one point she said, you know,
I, I gave, I began to, I gave up.

510
00:25:24,139 --> 00:25:25,190
I could see no way out.

511
00:25:26,050 --> 00:25:28,270
And she said, I could no
longer fight for myself.

512
00:25:28,819 --> 00:25:30,340
I needed someone to fight for me.

513
00:25:31,070 --> 00:25:35,660
And those words rang in my
ears, uh, penetrated my, my

514
00:25:35,660 --> 00:25:37,100
mind and my heart and my soul.

515
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,310
And here's a young trafficking victim
saying, I needed someone to fight for me.

516
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,995
And I love there's a bunch of men on
this, this, you know, In your audience

517
00:25:46,025 --> 00:25:50,245
because that resonates with me and I
know it resonates with a lot of men.

518
00:25:50,665 --> 00:25:53,995
Um, and I thought to myself, I'll
fight for you and I'll fight for you

519
00:25:53,995 --> 00:25:56,895
and you and you and we'll see how many
good men I can get to fight with me.

520
00:25:57,025 --> 00:25:57,945
That's kind of my lane.

521
00:25:57,955 --> 00:26:01,034
There's a lot of great women
out there battling this crime.

522
00:26:01,035 --> 00:26:01,355
Great.

523
00:26:01,355 --> 00:26:01,895
Keep going.

524
00:26:02,594 --> 00:26:03,834
The missing ingredient is men.

525
00:26:03,844 --> 00:26:06,145
We don't have enough men out
there fighting enough good men.

526
00:26:06,985 --> 00:26:10,034
And so I didn't know it in that moment,
but the book was born in that moment.

527
00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:12,889
And she said, I needed someone
to fight for me and I was kind of

528
00:26:12,889 --> 00:26:14,130
wrestling with that for a while.

529
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:15,820
I thought, what am I going to do?

530
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,110
I have a male voice.

531
00:26:17,570 --> 00:26:18,679
I can say things to men.

532
00:26:18,679 --> 00:26:20,830
I can challenge men in a
way that others can't maybe.

533
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:25,339
And so that's when I approached a number
of people, um, and shared the idea.

534
00:26:25,340 --> 00:26:29,970
Let's, I want to communicate this
important challenge in charge to men.

535
00:26:29,970 --> 00:26:35,140
And Jessica on our savings team at the
time as a survivor, a number of others.

536
00:26:35,150 --> 00:26:38,830
There are six really prominent, amazing
survivors that jumped at the chance.

537
00:26:38,830 --> 00:26:39,459
I'd love to.

538
00:26:40,345 --> 00:26:41,805
Collaborate with you on this book.

539
00:26:41,835 --> 00:26:43,545
I'm so glad you're writing a book for men.

540
00:26:43,905 --> 00:26:49,674
Their lived experience says,
um, mostly men are the buyers,

541
00:26:49,695 --> 00:26:51,345
and mostly men are the sellers.

542
00:26:51,355 --> 00:26:53,975
It's mostly men that are the
problem with human trafficking.

543
00:26:54,185 --> 00:26:55,004
Not even close.

544
00:26:55,055 --> 00:26:55,685
Indisputable.

545
00:26:56,395 --> 00:26:58,854
So we have to get a message
right to the heart of men.

546
00:26:59,494 --> 00:27:02,215
Now, women are reading the book, and
I've gotten so much great feedback.

547
00:27:02,535 --> 00:27:04,565
You know, probably 70 percent of
the book, doesn't matter if you're a

548
00:27:04,565 --> 00:27:07,775
man or woman, it's breaking down the
crimes, explaining it, hearing stories.

549
00:27:08,324 --> 00:27:11,014
But there's a good 30 percent of the
book that's me and my male voice.

550
00:27:11,565 --> 00:27:15,535
Sort of looking guys in the eye
figuratively as I'm reading this

551
00:27:15,535 --> 00:27:19,185
book saying we have to be better
and, and here's what's happening and

552
00:27:19,195 --> 00:27:20,514
here's how you're contributing to it.

553
00:27:21,055 --> 00:27:24,414
Um, and there's some action items,
you know, about things to do and not

554
00:27:24,414 --> 00:27:28,245
do moving forward and a good healthy
challenge to all men everywhere.

555
00:27:29,465 --> 00:27:30,744
So that, that, that's the book.

556
00:27:30,744 --> 00:27:31,705
It's found at fight for me.

557
00:27:31,915 --> 00:27:34,175
net little website where the book is.

558
00:27:34,245 --> 00:27:36,855
And, um, you can find
it for sale on Amazon.

559
00:27:36,855 --> 00:27:38,355
You can type it in there, but
if you go to fight for me.

560
00:27:38,545 --> 00:27:40,304
net, there's biographies of these.

561
00:27:40,975 --> 00:27:44,415
People, a lot of contributors
and these survivors and, and, and

562
00:27:44,735 --> 00:27:46,155
their websites and their books.

563
00:27:46,155 --> 00:27:48,485
You can buy a book, you know, that
they wrote, uh, tell them their own

564
00:27:48,485 --> 00:27:52,825
story and, and it just kind of be
part of the conversation and, um,

565
00:27:53,245 --> 00:27:55,574
it's been really well received out
there in the last couple of years.

566
00:27:56,475 --> 00:27:59,025
Now, tell us about your
exciting announcement,

567
00:27:59,414 --> 00:27:59,764
right?

568
00:28:00,274 --> 00:28:00,675
Yeah.

569
00:28:01,155 --> 00:28:04,475
So, uh, Tuesday, March 5th, I think
your audience is going to see parts

570
00:28:04,475 --> 00:28:08,465
of this on Tuesday, but maybe this
entire episode will air on Wednesday.

571
00:28:09,074 --> 00:28:11,574
So Tuesday, March 5th, um,
there's a big announcement.

572
00:28:12,105 --> 00:28:15,635
And we're making it right here,
right now, that, uh, this book,

573
00:28:15,845 --> 00:28:19,975
uh, is now going to be released
as an audio version of the book.

574
00:28:19,975 --> 00:28:23,884
So many people, they drive a lot,
or they go, they exercise a lot, and

575
00:28:23,885 --> 00:28:27,924
they're walking or jogging, or, or,
you know, they just don't really like

576
00:28:27,924 --> 00:28:31,734
to read as much, and, and they need,
they consume their content better by

577
00:28:31,774 --> 00:28:34,395
listening to podcasts and listening
to books and those kinds of things.

578
00:28:35,010 --> 00:28:39,280
So the goal is to get as many people
consuming this content as possible

579
00:28:39,330 --> 00:28:42,010
and with a special emphasis on the
male audience and most guys that

580
00:28:42,010 --> 00:28:43,110
I know don't like to read a lot.

581
00:28:43,159 --> 00:28:44,310
You're probably an anomaly, Brent.

582
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,309
You said you like to read a lot.

583
00:28:45,309 --> 00:28:46,340
Most guys don't like to read a lot.

584
00:28:46,879 --> 00:28:48,010
So it's not a long book.

585
00:28:48,020 --> 00:28:49,959
It's like 230 pages or
something like that.

586
00:28:49,959 --> 00:28:52,120
It's, it's, it's an easy
read from that standpoint.

587
00:28:52,565 --> 00:28:54,935
Maybe some of the stuff is challenging
on the inside of the book, but

588
00:28:54,955 --> 00:28:56,205
it's not over the top challenging.

589
00:28:56,205 --> 00:28:56,645
I don't think.

590
00:28:56,675 --> 00:29:00,855
We could have gone, we could have gone
more, but we wanted to keep it on the

591
00:29:00,855 --> 00:29:03,865
right side of the line where people are
going to continue reading it and not be,

592
00:29:03,975 --> 00:29:06,795
you know, turned off when they hear some
of the stuff that we could have said.

593
00:29:07,465 --> 00:29:10,965
But here's the unique portion of this
book, which I'm super excited about.

594
00:29:11,644 --> 00:29:14,635
So a couple of years ago, I
actually had knee surgery and it's

595
00:29:14,635 --> 00:29:15,815
kind of laid up, not doing much.

596
00:29:15,815 --> 00:29:17,335
And I wanted to read some,
I'm one of those guys that

597
00:29:17,335 --> 00:29:18,145
doesn't like to read a lot.

598
00:29:18,850 --> 00:29:23,500
And two of the amazing experts of
survivors that are, that are in this

599
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:26,590
book we're talking about, they already
had their own book and they already

600
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:31,290
had made an audio version of their
book, them reading their book on audio.

601
00:29:31,859 --> 00:29:34,759
And I listened to both of those books,
just as I was kind of rehabbing my

602
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,220
knee, and I was really impacted.

603
00:29:37,845 --> 00:29:42,555
It was so powerful to hear them in
their voice, telling their story,

604
00:29:43,445 --> 00:29:46,195
maybe partly because I knew them by
now and they were, you know, friends.

605
00:29:46,605 --> 00:29:49,945
And so it meant more to me than maybe just
a stranger, but it was very impactful that

606
00:29:49,945 --> 00:29:51,914
it was their voice telling their story.

607
00:29:51,914 --> 00:29:53,225
And so I had this idea.

608
00:29:54,575 --> 00:29:57,945
What if we, what if we got as many
of the contributors as possible?

609
00:29:57,945 --> 00:30:01,435
There's 15 or 20 people contribute,
contributing to this book and, and some

610
00:30:01,435 --> 00:30:04,955
are just really short anecdotes and others
are much more, you know, substantial.

611
00:30:05,715 --> 00:30:09,645
And I had a friend who's, you know,
has a studio and, you know, I paid him

612
00:30:09,725 --> 00:30:12,715
a couple of bucks, but he basically
just donated the recording of it.

613
00:30:13,225 --> 00:30:16,185
And, um, through the course of about
a year, I mean, it took about a year.

614
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:22,490
To bring everybody into the studio,
particularly these six women, these

615
00:30:22,490 --> 00:30:26,380
survivors, uh, big time, but then a
bunch of others, like I told you, the U S

616
00:30:26,380 --> 00:30:29,510
ambassadors in there and a bunch of bunch
of guys that contributed their picture.

617
00:30:29,910 --> 00:30:31,850
Of what authentic masculinity is.

618
00:30:31,870 --> 00:30:33,300
They made their way into the studio.

619
00:30:33,950 --> 00:30:38,470
So now we just finished, uh, the sound
engineering of it, the, you know, the

620
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:42,530
editing of it, and it came out phenomenal,
just the right amount of sound effects to

621
00:30:42,530 --> 00:30:44,150
add some realism, but not over the top.

622
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,910
And, um, you know, just some siren
in the background, something's

623
00:30:46,910 --> 00:30:49,700
happening and a door closing, just
some interesting little sound effects.

624
00:30:50,350 --> 00:30:54,370
But we have this conversation, you
know, a lot of, a lot of audio books.

625
00:30:54,655 --> 00:30:56,025
They're read not even by the author.

626
00:30:56,045 --> 00:30:57,605
A lot of authors will
read their audio book.

627
00:30:57,625 --> 00:30:59,645
It's just one person usually
reading their audio book.

628
00:30:59,815 --> 00:31:02,435
And sometimes again, just
someone they hired in some cases.

629
00:31:03,285 --> 00:31:07,905
Well, this is some, I don't know, 15
different voices, the actual people

630
00:31:07,905 --> 00:31:10,155
that actually contributed to the book.

631
00:31:10,335 --> 00:31:14,365
And like I said, Jessica, who's my
coauthor, shares a lot of her personal

632
00:31:14,365 --> 00:31:15,715
story and a lot of her personal life.

633
00:31:16,135 --> 00:31:19,985
Um, she's in reading her
story, telling that story.

634
00:31:20,655 --> 00:31:22,815
So it's pretty powerful,
incredibly powerful.

635
00:31:22,815 --> 00:31:24,695
And I'm hoping that
everybody's going to get it.

636
00:31:24,755 --> 00:31:25,955
You can, it's available anywhere.

637
00:31:25,955 --> 00:31:28,495
You get your audio books, audible
and all these other places.

638
00:31:28,975 --> 00:31:35,045
Um, look for it, get it, listen to it,
listen to it again, listen to it a third

639
00:31:35,045 --> 00:31:36,815
time and pass it along to somebody else.

640
00:31:36,815 --> 00:31:37,695
Cause it's really powerful.

641
00:31:38,895 --> 00:31:40,205
Now guys, I wasn't exaggerating.

642
00:31:40,225 --> 00:31:42,185
I read a lot of books for my podcasts.

643
00:31:42,645 --> 00:31:46,045
As you know, we've had a lot of authors
on over the years we've been doing this.

644
00:31:46,485 --> 00:31:47,785
I read a lot of books personally.

645
00:31:47,785 --> 00:31:51,555
I'm highly into reading
and I love audio books.

646
00:31:51,585 --> 00:31:55,675
So I'm super excited about this because
I, I didn't know, like, I never listened

647
00:31:55,675 --> 00:31:57,265
to audio books until about two years ago.

648
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,360
I was like, Oh my gosh, I've
been missing out for so long.

649
00:32:01,070 --> 00:32:05,270
Uh, it, it more than increases the amount
of how I can read and books I can read.

650
00:32:06,340 --> 00:32:12,160
But the fact that you got these
people to read their stories, to

651
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,450
put it in their voice, I've already
seen the preview you guys put out.

652
00:32:17,690 --> 00:32:21,480
Uh, I, I got, I was tearing up just cause
I remember those portions of the book.

653
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:26,320
As I'm hearing it in their words, and
I will be buying an audio book myself.

654
00:32:26,530 --> 00:32:29,430
Uh, I, I read the book,

655
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:30,530
it

656
00:32:30,530 --> 00:32:32,240
changed me forever.

657
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,890
Now I want to hear it in their voices.

658
00:32:34,890 --> 00:32:36,000
I'm very excited about that.

659
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,030
So guys, we're going to roll this
promotional clip for the book, and

660
00:32:40,030 --> 00:32:41,480
we'll be right back with Alan Smith.

661
00:32:41,670 --> 00:32:45,240
I look at the tattoo on my neck as a
battle scar, the pimp who kidnapped

662
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,470
me, branded me like I was his slave
and it was done against my will.

663
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,130
I began to prepare for my death.

664
00:32:50,890 --> 00:32:53,870
He grabbed me by my hair and
dragged me down the street with

665
00:32:53,870 --> 00:32:55,090
my knees scraping the ground.

666
00:32:55,540 --> 00:32:58,050
This world and these kids need you.

667
00:32:58,420 --> 00:33:01,760
I typically had over 10 sexual
encounters every single day.

668
00:33:02,070 --> 00:33:05,360
This was my life and I was now
living it one moment at a time.

669
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,410
And I would do whatever I
had to do in order to live.

670
00:33:09,020 --> 00:33:11,120
I thought that people
valued me most based on sex.

671
00:33:12,220 --> 00:33:15,110
I thought sex was the most valuable
thing I had to offer this world.

672
00:33:15,530 --> 00:33:19,770
It was despicable and degrading,
but I felt like I had no way out.

673
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,570
I needed someone to fight for me.

674
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,640
I discovered that I was
not alone in my pain.

675
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,320
I experienced incredible breakthroughs.

676
00:33:32,990 --> 00:33:35,790
I see myself making strides
and growing stronger every day.

677
00:33:35,860 --> 00:33:38,460
It is a constant battle
and daily decision to heal.

678
00:33:38,860 --> 00:33:42,780
Those old vulnerabilities of being
alone and unimportant resurfaced.

679
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:48,850
Understanding God's love and being able to
believe and receive that love is critical.

680
00:33:49,130 --> 00:33:53,590
Justice demands that traffickers
not commodify and dehumanize

681
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,070
inherently valuable people.

682
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,670
I trust that my story will
help motivate you into action.

683
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,380
How can I possibly turn my back on
thousands of young girls and boys in

684
00:34:04,390 --> 00:34:05,880
need of strong men to fight for them?

685
00:34:06,350 --> 00:34:07,930
The answer is, I can't.

686
00:34:08,780 --> 00:34:11,990
Children and young women like
me need you to fight for them.

687
00:34:12,660 --> 00:34:17,010
It starts right here, right
now, with you and with me.

688
00:34:17,470 --> 00:34:18,160
It's go time.

689
00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:22,670
There is so much more to my life, and
my story is not done being written.

690
00:34:28,020 --> 00:34:30,970
Alright guys, now,
that's just the trailer.

691
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:37,955
The audiobook is out, and If you're
not a big reader, you know what?

692
00:34:38,025 --> 00:34:43,035
I I'm, I wasn't always a big
reader, but I've loved audio books.

693
00:34:43,045 --> 00:34:44,555
So I started listening to audio books.

694
00:34:44,555 --> 00:34:49,235
I'm so glad I found that medium
and the best books read by

695
00:34:49,345 --> 00:34:50,305
are read by their authors.

696
00:34:50,305 --> 00:34:54,995
Usually this, this is incredible that you
managed to get all these people together

697
00:34:55,055 --> 00:34:58,025
to do this and put it in their own voice.

698
00:34:59,525 --> 00:35:01,705
So guys, I highly encourage
you to go check it out.

699
00:35:02,385 --> 00:35:07,815
Alan, what are you hoping to accomplish
with this besides just raising awareness?

700
00:35:08,995 --> 00:35:16,385
I'm hoping that millions of men will,
uh, either read the paperback or, but now

701
00:35:16,395 --> 00:35:17,705
at this point we made it easy for you.

702
00:35:17,705 --> 00:35:18,515
I have no excuse.

703
00:35:18,595 --> 00:35:22,145
I'm hoping that millions of men
will consume this book, either the

704
00:35:22,145 --> 00:35:23,905
written form or now the audio form.

705
00:35:24,065 --> 00:35:25,205
Audio form is easy.

706
00:35:25,315 --> 00:35:28,145
You're driving and, you know, in the
commute to traffic or you're, you're

707
00:35:28,145 --> 00:35:30,875
going for a walk, you know, put
your, your headphones on, whatever.

708
00:35:31,535 --> 00:35:32,935
However, you do want to do that.

709
00:35:33,535 --> 00:35:35,655
I'm hoping that millions
of men will do that.

710
00:35:35,905 --> 00:35:41,035
And by the way, um, Any possible
profits from this we're splitting that

711
00:35:41,035 --> 00:35:42,775
up the survivors that are in the book.

712
00:35:43,005 --> 00:35:48,105
Um, You know are benefiting financially if
and when should you know, some resources

713
00:35:48,105 --> 00:35:53,950
come in because of these sales If that
helps so I would uh I want millions of men

714
00:35:53,950 --> 00:35:56,380
to listen or read to this, read this book.

715
00:35:56,670 --> 00:35:57,840
You can find it at fight for me.

716
00:35:58,070 --> 00:35:58,390
net.

717
00:35:58,430 --> 00:36:02,720
And the video that you just saw in this
podcast is already posted at fight for me.

718
00:36:02,890 --> 00:36:03,170
net.

719
00:36:03,690 --> 00:36:07,490
Go back and look, look at it, look
for it, share it on your social

720
00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:09,230
media, email it to your friends.

721
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:15,040
We need an army of men to step into this
battle and different people have different

722
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,420
capacity and some people can be all in.

723
00:36:18,305 --> 00:36:20,915
Other people, they don't have
a lot of time or energy and

724
00:36:21,235 --> 00:36:22,015
they're still learning about it.

725
00:36:22,055 --> 00:36:22,515
That's fine.

726
00:36:22,605 --> 00:36:24,855
Just take another step
forward wherever you are.

727
00:36:25,385 --> 00:36:29,515
At the very least, buy the book or
listen to this book, Eat Better Yet,

728
00:36:29,515 --> 00:36:31,205
because I've already talked about today.

729
00:36:31,295 --> 00:36:33,985
It's really, really powerful
to have the real people.

730
00:36:34,645 --> 00:36:38,695
Uh, we're telling their stories,
saying it, um, in this audio

731
00:36:38,695 --> 00:36:39,935
book, it's incredibly powerful.

732
00:36:40,375 --> 00:36:40,855
Do that.

733
00:36:41,025 --> 00:36:44,045
And, and then, um, and then, and
then let it be what it is, uh,

734
00:36:44,075 --> 00:36:46,635
be impacted how you are impacted.

735
00:36:46,735 --> 00:36:48,175
I'm not trying to orchestrate that part.

736
00:36:48,175 --> 00:36:51,735
That's between you and your maker
and your spouse or whatever.

737
00:36:52,315 --> 00:36:58,205
And, um, I would hope that, um, millions
of men and others, but the lane right

738
00:36:58,205 --> 00:37:03,365
now is men, the fallible man, um, I would
hope that millions of men would spring

739
00:37:03,365 --> 00:37:09,165
into action, read the book, pray about
what you heard, lose sleep at night,

740
00:37:09,245 --> 00:37:13,075
have an upset stomach, uh, bloodshot
eyes because you're not sleeping,

741
00:37:13,075 --> 00:37:16,045
whatever that might be, rest in that.

742
00:37:16,945 --> 00:37:20,415
And somewhere in the
darkness, you'll be motivated.

743
00:37:20,910 --> 00:37:26,930
To move into act and there's a lot of,
a lot of ideas of how you can do that.

744
00:37:26,930 --> 00:37:28,040
There's the macro and the micro.

745
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,430
You got to read the book
and listen to the book.

746
00:37:30,140 --> 00:37:33,620
You spell out all the different
ways that you can get involved.

747
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:36,030
And that's my hope and my prayer
that you would get involved.

748
00:37:36,430 --> 00:37:37,690
Don't just be a reader of the book.

749
00:37:37,690 --> 00:37:38,920
Don't just be a listener of the book.

750
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:40,080
Do those things.

751
00:37:40,750 --> 00:37:47,190
But then I challenge you to get off
the couch, get in the game and do

752
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:49,760
something about this horrific crime.

753
00:37:50,230 --> 00:37:57,420
Of human exploitation and sex trafficking,
often, which is of minors of children.

754
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:02,600
That's what I'm hoping consume the
book and get involved and do something.

755
00:38:02,610 --> 00:38:03,600
Go to saving innocence.

756
00:38:03,850 --> 00:38:04,350
org.

757
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,970
If you want to check out the organization
that I lead in LA, uh, but you know,

758
00:38:07,970 --> 00:38:11,750
there's probably a anti human trafficking
agency, not far from wherever you're

759
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:16,980
listening to this, uh, Google anti
trafficking agency near me and make

760
00:38:16,980 --> 00:38:18,730
a difference in their organization.

761
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,860
Look at their website, see how
many people they have, give

762
00:38:21,860 --> 00:38:23,180
them a call, send them an email.

763
00:38:23,540 --> 00:38:24,330
How many staff do you have?

764
00:38:24,330 --> 00:38:24,359
8?

765
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:24,620
10?

766
00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:25,480
20?

767
00:38:25,530 --> 00:38:25,790
What?

768
00:38:25,830 --> 00:38:26,140
5?

769
00:38:27,010 --> 00:38:30,030
And the next time you go to the store,
buy an extra Starbucks gift card or

770
00:38:30,030 --> 00:38:33,060
something, and just send it to them
all, just with a handwritten note.

771
00:38:33,070 --> 00:38:35,500
They don't get handwritten notes
anymore, but a handwritten note.

772
00:38:35,530 --> 00:38:38,230
Thanks for your hard work, we appreciate
what you're doing, we're cheering you on.

773
00:38:38,715 --> 00:38:40,495
To the, you know, the eight
or 10 staff that are there.

774
00:38:40,585 --> 00:38:41,135
Oh, it'd be great.

775
00:38:41,135 --> 00:38:43,105
I mean, incredible people
know that we're doing this.

776
00:38:43,125 --> 00:38:43,465
Wow.

777
00:38:43,855 --> 00:38:45,045
Like everybody can do that.

778
00:38:45,345 --> 00:38:46,105
Y'all can do that.

779
00:38:46,895 --> 00:38:49,335
You know, maybe you buy a 5 gift card.

780
00:38:49,335 --> 00:38:50,225
Cause that's all you can do.

781
00:38:50,255 --> 00:38:50,465
Great.

782
00:38:50,505 --> 00:38:51,735
They can get a cup of coffee.

783
00:38:52,135 --> 00:38:56,615
Everybody can do that or go big and,
um, see, ask them what they need.

784
00:38:57,405 --> 00:38:59,485
You know, what, what do you guys
need and start pushing it out?

785
00:38:59,485 --> 00:38:59,895
Okay.

786
00:39:00,225 --> 00:39:01,215
The holidays next fall.

787
00:39:01,225 --> 00:39:01,775
What can I do?

788
00:39:01,775 --> 00:39:02,885
Well, we're having a big Christmas party.

789
00:39:02,885 --> 00:39:03,445
We're having a thing.

790
00:39:03,445 --> 00:39:04,435
We're doing this, we're doing that.

791
00:39:04,445 --> 00:39:05,325
We're gathering items.

792
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:09,640
There is something for
everybody and, uh, to do.

793
00:39:09,830 --> 00:39:13,630
And, and so my hope is that everybody
would do something and it all adds up.

794
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,940
Now, if you don't know, right,
if you're sitting here listening

795
00:39:17,940 --> 00:39:20,450
to this going, What can I do?

796
00:39:21,380 --> 00:39:22,660
Alan didn't leave you hanging.

797
00:39:23,410 --> 00:39:25,320
There are appendices in
the back of the book.

798
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,400
First thing you run into when you
finish the book is things you can

799
00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:35,010
do at an individual level followed
by things your church can do.

800
00:39:35,050 --> 00:39:36,780
You can get your church involved in this.

801
00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:36,910
Bye.

802
00:39:38,050 --> 00:39:41,560
Uh, I appreciate the foresight
in that because I finished the

803
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,000
book the first time and it was,
that was my immediate reactions.

804
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:46,140
What can I do?

805
00:39:46,460 --> 00:39:47,470
What, what can I do?

806
00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:50,940
And so I was really glad you had that
in there because like the immediate

807
00:39:50,940 --> 00:39:53,210
responses, God, I need to do something.

808
00:39:54,690 --> 00:39:54,860
Yeah.

809
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:55,960
I have little girls.

810
00:39:56,050 --> 00:39:58,860
I've been, I have so many little
girls in my family, worked

811
00:39:58,860 --> 00:40:00,130
with teenage girls for years.

812
00:40:01,530 --> 00:40:02,720
Guys, it's nightmare fuel.

813
00:40:03,060 --> 00:40:03,630
Honest to God.

814
00:40:03,630 --> 00:40:06,330
If you're a father, if you
have women in your life, it's

815
00:40:06,340 --> 00:40:07,870
nightmare fuel when you read this.

816
00:40:09,215 --> 00:40:12,235
Because you think this
is some far world away.

817
00:40:12,955 --> 00:40:16,765
And when you read the stories
to some of these survivors, they

818
00:40:16,765 --> 00:40:18,965
weren't in downtown New York.

819
00:40:19,825 --> 00:40:23,285
This happens in small towns all the time.

820
00:40:25,035 --> 00:40:26,855
This isn't somewhere on the
other side of the world.

821
00:40:26,855 --> 00:40:30,965
This is happening in your community,
whether you want to believe it or not.

822
00:40:33,005 --> 00:40:36,415
Uh, the Polaris project runs
the national hotline and you can

823
00:40:36,415 --> 00:40:37,565
go to find them on the website.

824
00:40:37,685 --> 00:40:43,835
And, um, they have, uh, calls regularly
every year, annually from all 50 States.

825
00:40:44,605 --> 00:40:46,095
So it's happening in every state.

826
00:40:46,095 --> 00:40:49,085
I won't say every zip code because
that might not be true, but it's

827
00:40:49,085 --> 00:40:53,055
happening all over the country,
whether it's a dense urban center like

828
00:40:53,205 --> 00:40:57,205
LA or if it's out in the oil fields
of Fargo, North Dakota or something

829
00:40:57,205 --> 00:40:58,475
like that and everywhere in between.

830
00:40:59,055 --> 00:41:01,485
And, um, you know, I think, you
know, there's stuff that we can do.

831
00:41:01,505 --> 00:41:04,845
Like I said, buy some gift cards
and, you know, become a monthly

832
00:41:04,845 --> 00:41:08,285
donor of whatever amount to the
trafficking agency that of your choice.

833
00:41:08,415 --> 00:41:08,735
Sure.

834
00:41:08,745 --> 00:41:09,515
Do those things.

835
00:41:09,565 --> 00:41:10,035
That's easy.

836
00:41:10,845 --> 00:41:14,125
But what I'm hoping for is that
when millions of men consume

837
00:41:14,125 --> 00:41:16,165
this content, they're going to
be shaken like you were, Grant.

838
00:41:16,765 --> 00:41:21,885
And that, um, you know, the, the
solution starts with us as we look

839
00:41:21,885 --> 00:41:25,175
in the mirror, you know, one of
the later chapters in the book, it

840
00:41:25,185 --> 00:41:26,495
talks about looking in the mirror.

841
00:41:27,235 --> 00:41:32,745
Um, we have to sync up our life,
uh, What are we thinking about?

842
00:41:32,795 --> 00:41:35,375
What are we doing in the shadows,
in the dark, when the light's

843
00:41:35,375 --> 00:41:36,905
not on, when our wife is in bed?

844
00:41:37,475 --> 00:41:40,875
What are we doing to contribute
to human exploitation?

845
00:41:41,865 --> 00:41:43,815
What kind of music are
we allowing in our house?

846
00:41:43,845 --> 00:41:47,615
What kind of images are we allowed
on our own personal devices?

847
00:41:47,765 --> 00:41:51,665
Or, if we have kids old enough, what
are we allowing them to look at?

848
00:41:52,855 --> 00:41:54,015
It starts at home.

849
00:41:54,025 --> 00:41:56,255
Be the right husband for your wife.

850
00:41:56,645 --> 00:41:58,775
Be the right dad for your kids.

851
00:41:59,945 --> 00:42:02,615
You're, you're young girls when
they get to a certain age, they're

852
00:42:02,615 --> 00:42:05,365
desperately looking for a healthy male.

853
00:42:05,375 --> 00:42:06,265
What does it look like?

854
00:42:06,855 --> 00:42:08,095
Like, what does it mean out there?

855
00:42:08,095 --> 00:42:09,045
What should I expect?

856
00:42:09,705 --> 00:42:11,695
I'm watching my dad and my mom interact.

857
00:42:11,725 --> 00:42:15,545
I'm watching my dad as he interacts with
the, the waitress at the restaurant.

858
00:42:16,565 --> 00:42:19,805
They're learning about life and you
don't have to talk about it that much.

859
00:42:20,035 --> 00:42:24,515
And if you're the right kind of man,
looking them, these, you know, women you

860
00:42:24,515 --> 00:42:27,195
interact with in the eyes, saying please
and thank you, treating them with respect.

861
00:42:28,570 --> 00:42:29,790
That's going to send a message.

862
00:42:29,850 --> 00:42:32,100
Not only to your daughter is going
to send a message to your son.

863
00:42:32,740 --> 00:42:38,600
He needs a role model that he can
emulate and he's looking to emulate you.

864
00:42:40,315 --> 00:42:43,685
So what kind of dad, what kind of
father, what kind of man are you?

865
00:42:43,685 --> 00:42:47,615
And this book, um, is going to poke
you and nudge you along that track

866
00:42:47,825 --> 00:42:52,565
and cause you to think about all those
things start there and then sure.

867
00:42:52,575 --> 00:42:55,985
Send us a few gift cards and, and, you
know, send a couple of bucks somewhere,

868
00:42:56,545 --> 00:43:02,165
but starting the home and, um, we
could make a giant impact in this

869
00:43:02,165 --> 00:43:05,025
area if we focused and got after it.

870
00:43:12,195 --> 00:43:12,315
I

871
00:43:12,315 --> 00:43:18,455
feel like there's almost a mic drop there,
but instead of me saying that outright,

872
00:43:19,375 --> 00:43:22,485
guys, you've seen it in the movies.

873
00:43:22,485 --> 00:43:24,435
Now you've heard about it on the news.

874
00:43:26,005 --> 00:43:27,315
This is the world we live in.

875
00:43:28,435 --> 00:43:30,935
This is insane.

876
00:43:32,685 --> 00:43:38,825
The estimates are that there are more
people in some form of slavery, whether

877
00:43:38,925 --> 00:43:45,835
that's forced labor or sex trafficking
more now than there was historically

878
00:43:45,835 --> 00:43:47,535
a hundred years ago or 200 years ago.

879
00:43:50,085 --> 00:43:51,695
I live in Washington state.

880
00:43:52,685 --> 00:43:55,415
We actually have a task force
on this because we have a lot

881
00:43:55,415 --> 00:43:57,185
of slave labor in Washington.

882
00:43:57,985 --> 00:44:00,975
Uh, people don't want to talk about
it, especially cause I live in an

883
00:44:00,985 --> 00:44:02,625
agricultural area of Washington.

884
00:44:03,825 --> 00:44:10,095
We have a lot of slave force traffic and
that's a minute number compared to the sex

885
00:44:10,105 --> 00:44:11,555
trafficking in the state of Washington.

886
00:44:12,805 --> 00:44:17,295
Uh, I, I looked into it after our
last conversation about this and

887
00:44:17,985 --> 00:44:23,625
I was horrified to find out that
Washington state ranks very high in

888
00:44:23,645 --> 00:44:26,355
human sex trafficking in the United
States as far as the states go.

889
00:44:27,310 --> 00:44:29,540
Uh, the prevalence just.

890
00:44:30,385 --> 00:44:31,495
It was mind boggling.

891
00:44:32,305 --> 00:44:34,945
I knew Washington and
has some issues, right?

892
00:44:35,055 --> 00:44:42,855
Every state has their issues, but I
never would have for a minute that

893
00:44:42,865 --> 00:44:45,265
that was such a massive thing here.

894
00:44:48,165 --> 00:44:52,025
Guys, this will open your eyes, but
as Alan saying, it starts at home.

895
00:44:52,035 --> 00:44:52,815
It starts with you.

896
00:44:54,615 --> 00:44:58,515
We don't think we contribute to this,
but trust me, read the book, listen to

897
00:44:58,515 --> 00:45:05,605
the book, it starts with you in your
home, in your heart, in your choices.

898
00:45:08,425 --> 00:45:13,335
And those choices are going to affect
your children and somebody else's

899
00:45:13,335 --> 00:45:21,815
children and your grandchildren,
Alan, what do you want people to

900
00:45:21,835 --> 00:45:23,645
take away from this conversation?

901
00:45:25,415 --> 00:45:29,035
I want them to get this book, read
this book, listen to the book.

902
00:45:29,575 --> 00:45:34,615
And then, as I mentioned earlier, I want
them to do something, get, get involved.

903
00:45:35,185 --> 00:45:38,205
We can no longer be asleep at the switch.

904
00:45:39,305 --> 00:45:41,175
We have to take responsibility.

905
00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:44,730
For the world that we're leaving for
our kids and our grandkids, and I got

906
00:45:44,730 --> 00:45:49,050
this little nearly one year old little
grandson like I, I feel that deeply,

907
00:45:49,180 --> 00:45:53,340
what kind of world am I leaving for
him, and all the other little ones that

908
00:45:53,340 --> 00:45:56,310
are too young to know anything about
anything, and they're going to grow up

909
00:45:56,310 --> 00:46:00,920
in a state of the world in the state of
their city that they didn't create that

910
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,220
we are responsible for leaving them.

911
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,020
And so I want, I want guys
to take this personally.

912
00:46:07,690 --> 00:46:10,550
I'm convinced that people
don't take it seriously because

913
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:12,010
they don't take it personally.

914
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:19,950
Uh, guys, this is on us and you might
say, I'm not out there buying sex with

915
00:46:19,950 --> 00:46:22,390
anybody, especially a 12 year old.

916
00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:23,030
Are you kidding me?

917
00:46:23,050 --> 00:46:23,960
Like I'm not doing that.

918
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,720
I'm going to say great.

919
00:46:25,830 --> 00:46:26,070
Good.

920
00:46:26,170 --> 00:46:27,090
That's a good place to start.

921
00:46:27,090 --> 00:46:27,700
I'm glad you're not.

922
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:33,480
Most guys aren't the worst mistake
that we could make is saying, I'm

923
00:46:33,490 --> 00:46:35,140
not doing that really bad things.

924
00:46:35,140 --> 00:46:36,510
That means I'm not part
of the problem, right?

925
00:46:37,010 --> 00:46:38,740
I'm going to say, no,
that's not what I'm saying.

926
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:44,500
I'm saying we're all part of the because
if you're not actively down that dark

927
00:46:44,530 --> 00:46:51,890
path, participating in this brutal
crime, then you are passively allowing

928
00:46:51,890 --> 00:46:53,850
it to happen right under your nose.

929
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:56,850
And that's, that isn't any better.

930
00:46:57,230 --> 00:47:01,690
We're complicit in the very things that
we detest if we know about it and we don't

931
00:47:01,690 --> 00:47:04,480
do anything to combat it or to stop it.

932
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,990
So read the book, listen to the book,
let your heart be moved and then get

933
00:47:08,990 --> 00:47:11,620
involved because we must do something.

934
00:47:12,465 --> 00:47:15,675
And I'll let you guys figure out
what that makes sense for you.

935
00:47:15,795 --> 00:47:16,425
Got a lot of money?

936
00:47:16,425 --> 00:47:16,685
Great.

937
00:47:16,685 --> 00:47:17,455
Give a lot of it away.

938
00:47:17,775 --> 00:47:18,775
Are you good at graphic design?

939
00:47:18,775 --> 00:47:19,005
Great.

940
00:47:19,025 --> 00:47:22,185
Offer to make a video or a flyer
for some organization like this.

941
00:47:22,255 --> 00:47:22,725
Like, what is it?

942
00:47:22,735 --> 00:47:23,565
You can do something.

943
00:47:24,295 --> 00:47:28,085
Do something, guys, because our
children are hanging in the balance.

944
00:47:28,125 --> 00:47:30,275
The future is hanging in the balance.

945
00:47:30,725 --> 00:47:33,345
The soul of our society
is hanging in the balance.

946
00:47:33,345 --> 00:47:37,245
We can no longer let women and children
and boys and vulnerable people be

947
00:47:37,275 --> 00:47:38,625
bought and sold like a commodity.

948
00:47:39,125 --> 00:47:40,255
It's all hands on deck.

949
00:47:40,775 --> 00:47:44,035
We don't have a minute to waste, and we
need all of you to jump in on this thing.

950
00:47:44,315 --> 00:47:45,105
Go to fightforme.

951
00:47:45,115 --> 00:47:45,405
net.

952
00:47:45,845 --> 00:47:46,785
There's resources there.

953
00:47:46,805 --> 00:47:47,595
Go to savingmisses.

954
00:47:47,635 --> 00:47:48,025
org.

955
00:47:48,415 --> 00:47:49,805
You can email me off of fightforme.

956
00:47:50,175 --> 00:47:50,445
net.

957
00:47:50,645 --> 00:47:51,185
There's an email there.

958
00:47:51,185 --> 00:47:51,985
You can get a hold of me.

959
00:47:52,475 --> 00:47:56,315
Um, and, and do something about this.

960
00:47:57,385 --> 00:47:58,785
Do something, guys.

961
00:47:58,955 --> 00:47:59,435
Something.

962
00:48:00,145 --> 00:48:00,785
You must.

963
00:48:03,205 --> 00:48:03,555
How's that?

964
00:48:04,665 --> 00:48:06,655
I'll get me, get me fired up here, Brent.

965
00:48:08,095 --> 00:48:08,495
Guys.

966
00:48:09,210 --> 00:48:10,520
Would that be better tomorrow?

967
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,370
Because what you do today,
we'll see on the next one.

968
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:19,840
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969
00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:27,439
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970
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:27,920
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971
00:48:28,410 --> 00:48:32,170
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972
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Alan Smyth

Executive Director of Saving Innocence / Author / Speaker

Alan Smyth is an influential figure in the fight against human trafficking, with a significant role as co-leader of the LA County Regional Human Trafficking Task Force and a key member of Saving Innocence. His experience encompasses over a decade of dedicated work, focusing on combatting exploitation and providing crucial support to victims. Alan also plays a pivotal role in the foster family agency within Saving Innocence, emphasizing the importance of creating safe and supportive environments for children affected by trafficking. His extensive involvement in addressing human trafficking equips him with valuable insights into the complex challenges and necessary interventions required to tackle this pervasive issue.