Welcome to the Fallible Nation!

Discipline, Integrity and the Lost Art of Womanhood

Are you ready for a mind-blowing revelation about building a high value society? Discover the unexpected truth about male and female leadership that will leave you rethinking everything. Join me as we unlock the secrets to a new model of womanhood an...

Are you ready for a mind-blowing revelation about building a high value society? Discover the unexpected truth about male and female leadership that will leave you rethinking everything. Join me as we unlock the secrets to a new model of womanhood and the essential role of male leadership in creating a better world. Get ready to lead the way. Stay tuned for the big reveal in our next episode!

"Don't lose hope on us and be patient with our journey. Don't settle. Push back against a lesser version of a woman. And that's how we raise the standard for each other." - January Donovan

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Discover the keys to building a high value society and thriving community relationships.
  • Uncover the vital role of discipline in fostering strong and lasting relationships.
  • Empower women's leadership and influence in relationships and society.
  • Explore effective strategies for creating meaningful and lasting family connections.
  • Unlock the impact of cooking skills on family health and well-being.

My special guest is January Donovan

January Donovan is a well-established speaker, author, entrepreneur, coach, and podcaster. With a strong emphasis on mindset and skill set development, her expertise in nurturing relationships, fostering deep connections, and empowering women offers a valuable perspective on building a high value society. Through her practical insights and focus on family life, January's contributions provide a unique angle on the significance of male leadership in relationships, making her an essential voice for those seeking to comprehend and enhance societal values.

The key moments in this episode are:
00:00:00 - Gaining Insights into High Value Men and Women
00:00:48 - The Need for Men to Lead
00:08:18 - The Purpose of the Woman's School
00:10:51 - The Role of Mindset and Resilience
00:12:29 - Personal Random Facts
00:13:07 - Overcoming Fears and Trauma
00:14:34 - Impactful Purchases
00:18:22 - Cooking and Nurturing
00:23:28 - The Woman's School
00:26:26 - Redefining Feminism
00:26:49 - Rethinking Feminism and Gender Roles
00:29:41 - The Pushback Against Radical Extremes
00:32:15 - Embracing Masculinity and Challenging Gender Stereotypes
00:35:03 - Shaping Self-Worth and Finding Purpose
00:35:56 - Empowering Individuals to Believe in Their Value
00:40:37 - Building Confidence and Self-Worth
00:41:22 - Basic Competencies and Skill Development
00:43:18 - Communication and Emotional Command
00:48:01 - Redefining Manhood and Womanhood
00:52:29 - Mutual Support and Respect
00:55:09 - The Mystery of Woman in Marriage
00:55:59 - Casting a Vision for the Future
01:00:35 - Pursuing and Conquering
01:01:52 - The Value of Self-Investment
01:04:41 - Being Patient with Women
01:10:23 - The Tradition of Asada Barbecue in South America
01:11:13 - The Importance of Leadership
01:11:44 - Conclusion and Call to Action
01:10:55 - Appreciation for Hispanic Food
01:11:29 - Final Thoughts on Male Leadership

 

Guest Links:

https://tws.thewholenessschool.com/how-to-be-a-woman-course

Website

https://tws.thewholenessschool.com/thewomanschool

FaceBook

https://www.facebook.com/january.donovan

TikTok

https://www.tiktok.com/@januarydonovan

Instgram

https://www.instagram.com/january.donovan_/

Twitter

https://twitter.com/JanuaryDonovan_

LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/january-donovan/

YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/c/JanuaryDonovan

 

 

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Transcript
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Today, we're coming at things
from a different perspective.

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At the end of this episode of the Fallible
Men podcast with Women's School founder,

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January Donovan, you will gain insights
into what makes high value men in the

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eyes of high value women, learn what
women want men to bring into families,

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learn about the negative pressures
women face that who want to have more

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traditional roles in their lives.

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Learn why a lot of women no longer have
domestic skills and have an idea of

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how high value men and high value women
can help build each other up better.

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Listen to this plea from
January and let's get into it.

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Lead us, lead us.

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We need you.

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We need men in our life to lead us.

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Here's the million dollar question.

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How do men like us reach our full
potential growing to the men we

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dream of being while taking care
of our responsibilities, working,

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being good husbands, fathers,
and still take care of ourselves.

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Well, that's the big
question in this podcast.

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We'll help you answer
those questions and more.

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My name is Brent and welcome
to the Fallible Man podcast.

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Welcome to the Fallible Man podcast.

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You're home for all things,
man, husband and father.

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Big shout out to Fallible Nation.

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That's our private community.

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There's more information down
in the description below.

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A warm welcome to our
first time listeners.

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Hey, I know there's a lot
fighting for your attention.

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So it means a lot that you've given us
a chance and I hope you enjoy the show.

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Be sure to reach out to me at the
fallible man on most social medias

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and let me know what you thought.

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I'd love to hear your opinion of the show.

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Today, my guest is bestselling
author and founder of the woman's

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school, a personal development
company for women, January Donovan.

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January, welcome to the
fallible man podcast.

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Welcome.

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Thank you for having me here.

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I'm so grateful and honored and
excited for our conversation.

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I'm, I'm excited.

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Uh, not a lot of women actually
reach out to me to be on the show

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because it is generally a men's show.

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But I think we have so much
to learn from each other.

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That's right.

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And I think it's time how we need
to break the walls and barriers.

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So we we're going to today, how's your,
uh, we, we start lighthearted here.

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So how's your uh, uh, ? How is,
it's too early in the morning here.

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Uh, how is your, I can't
even think of the word now.

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What's going on with me?

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The word is cool.

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How is your trivia?

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There we go.

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We'll get it out there somehow.

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I need more coffee.

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Apparently.

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How is my trivia?

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Yeah.

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How are your trivia skills?

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Not very good.

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Not very good.

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Not very good.

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Okay.

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So, I mean, I could try, you could
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It's okay.

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It's okay.

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In which South American country
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barbecue known as asado?

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Asado.

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Okay.

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Featuring a variety of
grilled meats and sausages.

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Is it A, Brazil, B, Argentina,
C, Columbia, or D, Peru?

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Brazil.

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All right, guys, you know,
the rules don't cheat.

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Don't jump ahead for God's sake.

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If you're driving, please do
not write down your answer.

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Just play along at home.

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We'll come back to that later.

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Now January, I don't do big introductions
because no one actually cares.

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In your own words today,
who is January Donovan?

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I'm a warrior for women.

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I'm a mom of eight.

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My faith is the most important part of me.

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I'm a teacher, um, and I am a devoted and
faithful wife to my husband of 18 years.

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You really say eight children?

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I have eight children, yes.

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You are incredibly brave, ma'am.

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Yeah, I'm really grateful.

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I want to If I could add that, I want
to redeem the narrative of motherhood

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as not something that was designed
to be hard, exhausting, draining.

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I think it's designed to not
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actually breathe life within us.

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And so, I am determined to rewrite the
story of motherhood in our culture today.

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I'm just thinking of when
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through that process eight times.

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Wow.

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Just wow.

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My husband faints, Brent.

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So just so you know, he's, he cut the cord
on the fifth child, which cracks me up.

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And so I, I laugh because I'm like, I
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if you know him, he's the kindest,
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I go to labor.

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He is what I call what I normally
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I was my wife's painkiller.

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Went with a local, but like
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That's hilarious.

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Small part.

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At point I bridged across the
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she grabbed onto me so she could push.

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It's real.

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I, I had finger
fingerprints and nail think.

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January, what is your
favorite childhood memory?

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Oh my God.

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First thing that comes into mind,
I had a very rich childhood.

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I lived, I grew up in the Philippines.

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It was a very poor country.

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I didn't see my parents for five years
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So as a little girl, I did a
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beach in the sunset by myself.

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And pick up starfish in the Philippines.

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You have this like starfish that's
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starfish here in two different colors.

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And I would talk to God.

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I, I, I was a very
strong memory as a child.

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And I think I was four or five years old.

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I kept doing it.

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It was just part of who
I think who I became.

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So that's a great memory for
me, just me in the ocean.

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Beautiful memory.

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There's something magical.

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I, I took my daughters to the ocean two
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and the, the ocean on what the Washington
coastline is not a warm beaches.

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It's, it's cold water.

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It's south Florida.

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And, uh, but one of my daughter, my
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we would get up is I naturally
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We would get up and hike out to the beach
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the lotus tide of the day and pick up
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back in the water and play with the
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and we just walk for an hour or more.

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It's just magical to me.

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I feel like the ocean makes you,
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you are and how vast and beautiful
the world is and how big it is.

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It's unconquerable, and
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I mean, there's just so many beautiful
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presents, and there's depth, and
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Oh, and just meditate on the
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I could, I, that's my dream
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I, I, and to me, it's a, it's
a gift that keeps on giving.

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So you guys have a physical location
for your schools that are all online.

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So the woman's school is an online school.

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And the reason, you know, when I
was 21 and I don't know if this is

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a question here, quite, I don't want
to jump in, but there was, I, I never

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had somebody who taught me how to
be a woman and I suffered for it.

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I was a good girl and I ended up
being just depressed, anxious,

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not really, I hated who I was.

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And so, uh, they came into time of
my life where I met a mentor who

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basically said January, um, Do you
know the woman you want to become?

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And I said, No, I don't, you
know, I don't, I have no idea.

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And so let's design you.

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And so I met with her for three
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literally design the woman that I
never realized I could possibly be.

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And so from that, I think I was
born really the call to say, why

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don't we have a school for women
that taught women how to be a woman?

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So that we don't suffer unnecessarily
and we actually become who we

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were, who God created us to be.

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And so I drew out of school.

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I was 21 and said, we need
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women how to be a woman.

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I was 21.

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It was this crazy dream.

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And so eight kids later and just
kept fighting for this dream.

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And five years ago, it was very
clear, you know, that we could now

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have an online school for women.

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And that's really kind of how it evolved.

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I never knew.

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I just kept that dream close to my heart.

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I just, really believe in training women.

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I believe in training.

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I said, you train for, you know,
war, you go to bootcamp, you

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train as an athlete, but there's
no training on how to be a woman.

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And you expect us to live a life
that's fulfilled and fully alive.

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And it said, that's highway robbery.

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And so I just kept doing it.

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And so the school, I feel
like, you know, first they took

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God out of our school system.

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Now they're taking women out
of our school system and men.

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And so I think it was providential
and say, why don't we bring

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the school into the heart of
the home of both men and women?

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We actually have a man's school as well.

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And that's where the
online school kind of.

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really evolved and it's becoming a
grassroots effort, grassroots effort,

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to then train men and women in their
own homes in context of a community,

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which to me I think is a way forward.

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We, we have to replace the
current model of radical feminism.

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The emasculation of men and the only
way we do that is if we individually

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do our part by training who we are.

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So I was thinking, since it is an online
school, right, you don't actually have to,

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you said you'd like to live on the ocean?

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My friend Jen moved her
entire business to Costa Rica.

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I don't, I moved to Florida and it
goes out her back door and go surfing.

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But why not?

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You know, and that was, well, that was
even the reason why we, we, we draw my

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husband and I are big sort of dreamers
and I didn't know how to dream dreaming.

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I teach dreaming as a skill set.

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And so eight, uh, seven years ago
we thought, well, where could,

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where would you want to live if
there was no roadblocks set in

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the ocean somewhere in the ocean.

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And so you went one step closer
and we pulled our whole entire

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family out of Virginia, our
ecosystem and moved to Florida.

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To be close to the water because
I like we could broadcast into 43

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countries and that's where we're now
we're in 43 countries in just four

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years and I don't have to leave unless
I have speaking engagement, which is

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I'm very choosy about it because I
love being at home with my children.

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So, I think that's the gift of
the, of our current culture.

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That you, you know, my parents could
not be the Salem dad that they want

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to be but also fulfill, I think
their call in a way that doesn't

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compromise family, both men and women.

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And I think we have that privilege
now, and I really am grateful for it.

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What is your weapon of choice
for the zombie apocalypse?

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My mindset.

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Your mindset?

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Yeah, because I think it's the
only way we can actually fight

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the battle in front of us.

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is to actually become resilient,
knowing how to think about what we're

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thinking, and be resilient against
the external, um, attack against us.

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That's what I would say.

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Um, eat well.

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You gotta eat healthy.

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What if I sat down with your family, what
is one funny story they would tell on you?

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What is what?

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What funny story?

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What funny story would they tell on you?

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I like to prank people.

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Yeah?

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Anyway, I'm such a teacher and
I get so passionate and serious,

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nobody usually expects it from me.

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But I do.

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So I, I love, I have eight
children and it's, it's so fun.

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It's so alive.

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My home is alive.

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It's, I don't believe
in chaotic home life.

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I believe in peace and joy and sure
it's loud, sure there's moments of it,

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but I think that our home is sacred.

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And we need to redeem it.

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And I think that a woman has
a role to play in her own

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home and how she shapes it.

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And so I think that's
why women need training.

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Cause we don't know how to do that.

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We weren't born knowing how to, nor
are we trained to know how to do that.

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We're not trained how to honor a man.

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How did both take care of ourselves,
but also take care of a man and have

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children, how to cook a good, you
know, yummy meal for your husband at

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the same time, hold firm boundaries.

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I mean, you've got to, you've got to know
these skillsets that creates a home that

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makes your husband want to come home and
your children that requires training.

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You can eat one meal for the
rest of your life and only one.

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What would it be?

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Eggs, eggs, eggs, although I've
eaten 20 years, almost every day.

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What's one random fact that
people don't know about you?

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This is really hard for
public figures like yourself.

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What's one totally random fact
people don't know about you?

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Like, I can't eat peas.

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You can't what?

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I can't eat peas.

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I, I did an elimination diet trying to
figure out what was going on in my gut.

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Yeah.

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And apparently I can't eat English peas.

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Wow.

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That's kind of random.

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You're right.

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Nobody would have guessed that.

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I am petrified of squirrels and I teach
mindset and I teach my management.

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I can manage my mind really well,
except I haven't conquered the squirrel.

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I still don't like it.

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And I'm don't like lizards.

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Is it like a traumatic thing as a kid?

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Are you just?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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So I, my first earliest memories,
I grew up in the slums of the

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Philippines, so rodents and rats.

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And I think my recollection is that
I had a rodent, I think crawl in my

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leg and I'm forever scarred, but I, we
didn't have squirrels in the Philippines.

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So that was my closest thing as
a rodent when I came to the U S.

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So I just think.

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I don't know.

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I, I, some trauma behind it.

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Fair enough.

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It's silly.

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It's so ridiculous.

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I know it, but still.

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I, so.

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I grew up, English peas were
the only thing I liked as far

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as vegetables when I was a kid.

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Turns out they're bad for me.

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That's wild.

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Right?

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Never, never.

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It was, I was on a, I went completely
carnivore and then back into keto

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and then I started adding vegetables
kind of one at a time, playing

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with them every now and then.

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And who knew, right.

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It was like the one vegetable
I ate as a child and

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never, ever would have guessed.

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I was like, why of all the vegetables?

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Why that one?

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Why am I favorite?

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Then I actually will eat.

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Um, what purchase of a hundred dollars
or less have you made in the last year?

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That's had the biggest
impact on your life.

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Courses, maybe, um, I don't know.

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I guess impact on my life speaking.

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So I've had to speak most of the
last 20 years because of the work

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that I do, but I don't like it.

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Um, but I actually took Simon
Sinek's speaking course, um, because

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I had to be on the same stage
with John Maxwell and Ed Milad.

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And I don't look for the stage.

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I use it because I believe in my mission.

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That was very helpful for me.

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Okay.

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That's legit.

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Hey, you know, speaking is the
number one fear in the world, like

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public speaking, number one fear.

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So I always think of the quote,
Vernon Howard, the cave you fear to

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enter holds the treasure you hold.

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And I kept that in my mind because.

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I always feel like the things that we are
afraid of are often really mask or really

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our purposes and that has become for mine.

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And so, um, you know, I speak
because I'm called in the gym.

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We say the exercise you don't want
to do is the one you probably should.

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Yep.

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That's the same idea.

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What is something everyone
should know before we dig in?

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About myself or just about the world?

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It's about you.

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I feel like, um, there's a new
feminism movement that's brewing to

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replace the old model of feminism.

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And I feel called to help women
replace that new movement.

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And that movement is
the woman that is whole.

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So we're replacing the
broken model of feminism.

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I'm creating a new one
called a whole new woman.

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All right, guys, we've been getting
to know January just a little bit,

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who she is a little bit about her in
the next part of the show, we're going

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to dive into entrepreneurship, school
purpose, and raising the bar guys.

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I can already hear the questions
about why I'm talking up to

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a woman about woman's school.

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Bear with me.

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I guarantee this conversation
is going to take time.

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We're going to roll response and be right
back with more from January Donovan.

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Welcome back in the
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We just spent some time getting
to know who January Donovan is.

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And this part of the show, we're
going to dive into entrepreneurship,

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school purpose, and raising the bar.

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Now, January, you're a successful
speaker, author, entrepreneur,

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coach, wife, mother, podcaster.

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Did I miss anything?

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Nope, that's it.

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What do you do in your spare time?

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Wow.

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Um, so, I, I, I spend time with my family.

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And if I'm not, my spare
time is really in the ocean.

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I love that.

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That's my quiet time and
that's what I love to do.

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Um, I just love being with my family.

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I really do.

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So that's what I do in my spare time.

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Oh, I love to cook.

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So I'm a huge cook and my husband
really loves and much home when I cook.

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So I still cook almost every day.

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And in spite my crazy life, I have, you
know, I've help at home, can help me

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prepare, but then I'll do the clicking.

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So.

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You cook with your kids out of curiosity.

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I cook with my kids because competence
builds confidence and if they can own

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the kitchen, I can prepare them for life.

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I'm I'm a huge fan of
cooking with children.

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Okay, yeah, it gets messy,
but you have to teach.

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So I'm a big fan of cooking with
my children, but I also really

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make sure they know how to clean.

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So I tell my children in the kitchen.

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I make sure they cook as a clean.

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So I'm.

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You know, prep work all the way
up to cleanup work and the meal.

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So, and also just learning
to have conversation.

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While cooking and really raising
the bar for mealtime, you know, they

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said that we have now 30 percent of
Americans are opting out of dining table.

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The sacredness of family
life is no longer the norm.

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And so I think most children, as you
can see, are suffering this life of

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loneliness that makes them susceptible to.

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Evil makes them susceptible to being
manipulated, drugs, alcohol, and part

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of that is because families are not
actually, we don't have the infrastructure

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to be together on a daily basis.

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It's pretty passion on behalf of men who
are like, I, I pay a lot of attention to

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the fact that men and women aren't being
able to being taught to cook anymore.

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I've talked to so many people
from teenagers up who have

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no idea how to cook anything.

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I think it's such a vital life skill
that everybody should learn to cook.

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Uh, I know some men who would say, well,
you know, my wife cooks, can you cook?

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Because you need to pick up the ball.

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I'm a big fan of that.

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Uh, for our first anniversary, I
cooked my wife an eight course meal.

437
00:21:04,265 --> 00:21:06,165
Oh, you're a whole new
level, I would say, Brent.

438
00:21:06,165 --> 00:21:08,614
That would not be.

439
00:21:09,275 --> 00:21:12,674
Well, you know, I think we
have disregarded some of

440
00:21:12,675 --> 00:21:13,954
the most basic foundations.

441
00:21:13,964 --> 00:21:18,100
So when I think of cooking, it's
not just about, you know, You know,

442
00:21:18,530 --> 00:21:22,330
producing this meal, there has to be
sort of, what's the meaning behind it?

443
00:21:22,850 --> 00:21:26,820
And, you know, when you feed the
physical, you also nurture the spiritual.

444
00:21:26,860 --> 00:21:29,190
And I think that's how we
need to look at cooking.

445
00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:31,000
And we used to have home economics class.

446
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:31,409
I did.

447
00:21:31,420 --> 00:21:32,749
I mean, maybe you did too.

448
00:21:32,750 --> 00:21:33,559
We had woodwork.

449
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,189
And so I feel like we've erased that.

450
00:21:37,189 --> 00:21:38,550
And now we have an obesity problem.

451
00:21:38,610 --> 00:21:39,630
We have eating disorder.

452
00:21:39,889 --> 00:21:43,280
We have, you know, also crisis
and, you know, mental health.

453
00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:45,710
And I tell people what you
eat impacts your thoughts.

454
00:21:45,780 --> 00:21:47,320
We have evidence of that.

455
00:21:47,730 --> 00:21:50,730
But anything psychological it
gets, you know, is biological.

456
00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:53,700
So what you put in your body
impacts who you think and feel.

457
00:21:53,700 --> 00:21:57,139
And so we can't afford not to
actually fuel our body with good food.

458
00:21:57,399 --> 00:21:59,629
I would also add that I think men and
women should learn how to cook, but

459
00:21:59,629 --> 00:22:03,199
I also think that there is a place
for women to actually learn not just

460
00:22:03,199 --> 00:22:04,719
to cook, but actually to nurture.

461
00:22:05,009 --> 00:22:09,010
We don't have to be expert cook,
but we have to, as women use.

462
00:22:09,790 --> 00:22:14,180
you know, what we have in our home
to nurture people to fight actually

463
00:22:14,180 --> 00:22:15,470
the battle outside our homes.

464
00:22:15,939 --> 00:22:17,659
So I think women should
really learn how to cook.

465
00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:21,109
The problem with cooking is that women
don't have the skill of cleaning or

466
00:22:21,149 --> 00:22:27,079
prepping or a routine or boundaries
that actually helps them to create an

467
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:32,440
ecosystem where cooking and eating and
nurturing becomes part of a way of life.

468
00:22:32,850 --> 00:22:35,639
And I will also add, we should
really learn how to cook for them.

469
00:22:36,034 --> 00:22:40,285
Like something that we, that's
special that we can have for him.

470
00:22:40,335 --> 00:22:43,835
And even though your husband, like my
dad knows how to cook, there's just that

471
00:22:43,955 --> 00:22:48,265
little place that makes it extra special
and say, I'm doing this and just for you.

472
00:22:48,375 --> 00:22:53,044
And I think that's just one way for
us to, I think, feed our man and

473
00:22:53,044 --> 00:22:58,875
feed that love and we've lost that
artistry and in womanhood, I believe.

474
00:23:00,995 --> 00:23:07,175
So you said that your mentor really kind
of set you on a path that you're on now.

475
00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:12,810
And you created the woman skull,
which honestly, like just from an

476
00:23:12,820 --> 00:23:18,360
outside perspective is incredibly
brave, uh, modern era because, right.

477
00:23:18,410 --> 00:23:21,080
I'm, I'm sure that you get attacked.

478
00:23:22,014 --> 00:23:27,925
By feminists left and right tell us
about the woman's school Let's be here.

479
00:23:28,215 --> 00:23:29,505
Yeah, you know, what's fascinating.

480
00:23:29,505 --> 00:23:33,824
So I find so when When we started
the woman's school, it was very

481
00:23:33,824 --> 00:23:36,974
specific to mindset and skill set
and as a matter of fact I don't even

482
00:23:37,204 --> 00:23:38,765
actually talk about the word feminism.

483
00:23:38,874 --> 00:23:44,245
I really don't because I find that I
didn't want the roadblock, language

484
00:23:44,245 --> 00:23:49,284
is a roadblock, and when the language
becomes divisive, they're not really

485
00:23:49,295 --> 00:23:52,335
willing to listen, when in reality,
they would probably be open to it.

486
00:23:53,115 --> 00:23:57,514
And so, when the Women's School really
started, it's just teaching women how

487
00:23:57,514 --> 00:23:59,754
to design every part of their life.

488
00:24:00,364 --> 00:24:04,665
And, what I'm seeing is that
there's actually universal hunger.

489
00:24:05,074 --> 00:24:09,024
For women to feel alive in who they
are in their mental, emotional,

490
00:24:09,024 --> 00:24:11,864
physical and spiritual health and their
friendship and their intimacy and their

491
00:24:11,864 --> 00:24:14,895
contribution, which is an extension
of their career and their wealth and

492
00:24:14,895 --> 00:24:16,084
their environment and their family life.

493
00:24:17,055 --> 00:24:19,454
Feminists and non feminists
actually it's a uniting front.

494
00:24:20,534 --> 00:24:25,245
And what I find is that if we just
replaced and gave women a language that

495
00:24:25,245 --> 00:24:27,114
wasn't so divisive, they actually want it.

496
00:24:27,324 --> 00:24:30,764
Who doesn't want to be peaceful
and joyful and fully alive?

497
00:24:31,034 --> 00:24:33,854
Who doesn't want to be admired as a
woman by the men you admire the most?

498
00:24:34,044 --> 00:24:35,904
Who doesn't want to have
meaningful friendship?

499
00:24:36,225 --> 00:24:39,195
Who doesn't want to feel as though
they're mentally, emotionally,

500
00:24:39,195 --> 00:24:40,355
physically, and spiritually fit?

501
00:24:40,425 --> 00:24:44,735
Who doesn't want to have an abundant
life where they have and their resources

502
00:24:44,735 --> 00:24:48,415
that's more than just enough to pay
the bills, but extra to actually

503
00:24:48,415 --> 00:24:51,320
support, um, You know, their family.

504
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,620
I think we all deeply desire it.

505
00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:54,170
The problem is that how?

506
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,240
And that's what the Women's School is.

507
00:24:56,250 --> 00:24:58,470
It's essentially a how to school, Brenton.

508
00:24:59,065 --> 00:25:00,275
I think we've been robbed of the how.

509
00:25:00,555 --> 00:25:01,465
That's the problem.

510
00:25:01,465 --> 00:25:02,995
It's like, go for your dreams.

511
00:25:03,325 --> 00:25:03,725
How?

512
00:25:04,285 --> 00:25:04,835
How do you dream?

513
00:25:04,835 --> 00:25:05,685
Dreaming is a skill set.

514
00:25:06,035 --> 00:25:08,375
Make sure that you plan your day.

515
00:25:08,405 --> 00:25:08,785
How?

516
00:25:08,834 --> 00:25:09,515
How do you plan?

517
00:25:09,765 --> 00:25:13,244
We make 35 decisions a day and
we do not have decision making

518
00:25:13,244 --> 00:25:14,405
skills in our school system.

519
00:25:14,794 --> 00:25:16,784
They tell us what to do,
but not how to do it.

520
00:25:17,644 --> 00:25:20,685
And so people are wondering,
something's wrong with you.

521
00:25:20,735 --> 00:25:22,665
I always tell women,
nothing is wrong with you.

522
00:25:22,695 --> 00:25:24,355
You've just never been shown how to do it.

523
00:25:25,315 --> 00:25:26,805
And that's what the woman's school is.

524
00:25:27,169 --> 00:25:30,330
We have to give women it's
not just about empowerment.

525
00:25:30,439 --> 00:25:31,409
It's about equipment.

526
00:25:31,629 --> 00:25:35,479
It's about discipline It's about sacrifice
because our world right now if you think

527
00:25:35,489 --> 00:25:43,840
about it is integrity the norm No, but
see a woman who lacks integrity suffers.

528
00:25:43,989 --> 00:25:47,770
She is not trusted She doesn't like
herself because she can't trust herself.

529
00:25:48,409 --> 00:25:51,875
Her relationships are chaotic She
wants to live a life of integrity.

530
00:25:51,885 --> 00:25:54,705
She doesn't know how to
live a life of integrity.

531
00:25:55,104 --> 00:25:56,264
Honesty is a skill set.

532
00:25:57,344 --> 00:25:59,205
Children don't necessarily
know how to be honest.

533
00:25:59,205 --> 00:26:00,134
We assume that they do.

534
00:26:00,625 --> 00:26:03,315
And so just because you're a born woman
doesn't know you know how to be a woman.

535
00:26:03,315 --> 00:26:04,625
And so that's what I would say.

536
00:26:04,625 --> 00:26:08,264
But I also think that there is sort
of where the last three years we have

537
00:26:08,265 --> 00:26:13,614
seen, I would say, a great awakening
of people that are seeing all the

538
00:26:13,614 --> 00:26:16,514
massive evil that's happening, all
the craziness and the corruption.

539
00:26:17,225 --> 00:26:21,595
And people that were sort of
resistance, resistant against, you

540
00:26:21,595 --> 00:26:26,285
know, what it means to be a woman
where you feel like it was vulnerable.

541
00:26:26,315 --> 00:26:29,275
I feel like right now the world
is actually ready and the world

542
00:26:29,275 --> 00:26:32,094
is saying, you know what, I know
I do not want to be undefined.

543
00:26:33,125 --> 00:26:36,444
I want to know that I'm valuable
as a man, and I want to be

544
00:26:36,444 --> 00:26:37,764
the first one to honor men.

545
00:26:38,315 --> 00:26:42,345
I do not want to be part of the, You
know, the problem of emasculating men.

546
00:26:42,605 --> 00:26:44,195
I'm not here to want to be a man.

547
00:26:44,415 --> 00:26:45,745
I'm not here to replace men.

548
00:26:46,035 --> 00:26:49,515
I want to be woman right next to a man
and rebuilding our culture together.

549
00:26:49,745 --> 00:26:54,064
I'm done with this old model
of feminism that, that really

550
00:26:54,064 --> 00:26:56,104
eradicates both men and women.

551
00:26:56,104 --> 00:26:58,145
Now it's gone to this radical extreme.

552
00:26:58,645 --> 00:27:03,315
We are tired I think the world is
hungry for a new model of women.

553
00:27:04,495 --> 00:27:07,995
I've actually been really
excited on social media to see.

554
00:27:09,375 --> 00:27:17,085
The younger women right in the,
who are hitting that 20 ish

555
00:27:17,105 --> 00:27:20,615
age who are starting to go.

556
00:27:21,315 --> 00:27:23,845
No, I don't want to go work full time.

557
00:27:24,225 --> 00:27:26,184
I want to have a household.

558
00:27:26,185 --> 00:27:27,554
I want to raise children.

559
00:27:27,584 --> 00:27:30,975
I, I don't want to go
to work all the time.

560
00:27:30,975 --> 00:27:34,885
No, I'm, I'm really would like a
man who takes care of things and,

561
00:27:36,625 --> 00:27:40,625
and it's been just a breath of
fresh air to see, uh, start to cycle

562
00:27:40,635 --> 00:27:43,685
back to something that I'm, I'm 44.

563
00:27:43,695 --> 00:27:44,294
So I would.

564
00:27:44,705 --> 00:27:47,465
To me, that's like a norm, right?

565
00:27:48,014 --> 00:27:52,085
Uh, those, those more traditional
concepts as people like to call

566
00:27:52,085 --> 00:27:58,115
them it to cycle back to something
that I see as a healthy normal.

567
00:27:58,305 --> 00:28:03,674
It's like women, women have this value
and these skills and this presence

568
00:28:03,674 --> 00:28:05,544
and this ability that men never will.

569
00:28:06,864 --> 00:28:07,314
Vice versa.

570
00:28:07,314 --> 00:28:09,864
We are, we are meant to work together.

571
00:28:09,870 --> 00:28:10,249
Mm-Hmm.

572
00:28:11,544 --> 00:28:11,665
. Right?

573
00:28:12,185 --> 00:28:14,554
I don't know how we keep
ignoring this concept.

574
00:28:15,245 --> 00:28:17,374
'cause you see this balance
everywhere in the world.

575
00:28:18,825 --> 00:28:22,125
Well, I think we have to look at the
history of the radical feminism and what

576
00:28:22,125 --> 00:28:27,110
they were trying to basically eradicate,
which is essentially the genders.

577
00:28:27,885 --> 00:28:31,265
You know, where the idea was that
we just want to be make sure we're

578
00:28:31,265 --> 00:28:35,745
all human, which was noble at some
degree, but essentially, it erased

579
00:28:35,815 --> 00:28:39,554
also our unique ability, both as men
and women and what we offer the world

580
00:28:39,554 --> 00:28:41,355
uniquely that cannot be replaced.

581
00:28:41,625 --> 00:28:44,085
But I think what we're seeing
right now is 2 radical extremes.

582
00:28:44,605 --> 00:28:50,554
Trying to find a way to actually find that
balance like any other movement or any

583
00:28:50,554 --> 00:28:54,274
other things in history when we look at,
you know, first woman could not vote, no

584
00:28:54,274 --> 00:28:59,374
choice, no voice, nothing to now, whatever
you want, whatever you feel like, and

585
00:28:59,374 --> 00:29:04,204
what we have right now is actual data
that they just came out right now and, um.

586
00:29:04,415 --> 00:29:07,314
Yale of, in spite of all the
opportunities and freedom that women

587
00:29:07,335 --> 00:29:08,774
have, women are actually unhappier.

588
00:29:09,044 --> 00:29:10,605
They did a recent study on it.

589
00:29:10,685 --> 00:29:11,044
Why?

590
00:29:11,044 --> 00:29:14,924
And we have to ask ourselves why, with
all the external achievements and freedom

591
00:29:14,924 --> 00:29:16,415
that we have, women are actually not free.

592
00:29:16,685 --> 00:29:20,375
So I think the new movement towards
sort of the center is interior freedom.

593
00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:23,730
Which I define the freedom apart
from external circumstances.

594
00:29:24,060 --> 00:29:28,420
So I think that's what we want as women is
that, you know, we want the true freedom

595
00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:32,580
that's not based on what we can produce
in the world, what we offer in the world.

596
00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:35,839
So we're just coming into, I think,
that medium, which I think is the

597
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,230
most exciting time to be a woman.

598
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,740
Because now we've got data
to prove it doesn't work.

599
00:29:41,130 --> 00:29:44,110
It does it doing whatever you
feel like, whatever you want, just

600
00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:48,389
because you can does not work,
it leads you to your own demise.

601
00:29:48,389 --> 00:29:51,410
And the idea of eradicating
men does not work.

602
00:29:51,450 --> 00:29:53,679
We need men, we need it
every step of the way.

603
00:29:54,199 --> 00:29:57,370
And so I think that the pushback.

604
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,980
Is based, I think, now on data
where before women push back, but

605
00:30:02,980 --> 00:30:07,110
they were completely ostracized for
it because data couldn't prove it.

606
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:08,189
Now we can.

607
00:30:08,879 --> 00:30:12,550
And so I think that we're just
going to see this new surge.

608
00:30:12,940 --> 00:30:15,359
Um, the problem is that there is.

609
00:30:15,885 --> 00:30:21,715
A small, I would say very extreme
people that are really just hitting

610
00:30:21,755 --> 00:30:25,405
every institution of government,
replacing motherhood, birthing parent.

611
00:30:25,775 --> 00:30:30,565
I mean, this whole idea of transgender
is imploding in itself because now it

612
00:30:30,674 --> 00:30:34,484
is actually causing both men and women
to wake up and say, I don't want my

613
00:30:34,485 --> 00:30:35,945
daughters to be in the same bathroom.

614
00:30:35,945 --> 00:30:39,645
I mean, tell me, Brent, what would
you do if that man came into your

615
00:30:39,645 --> 00:30:42,295
nine year old daughter, 12 year old
in the same bathroom being like,

616
00:30:42,295 --> 00:30:43,585
no, I have the right to be here.

617
00:30:43,605 --> 00:30:43,875
I mean.

618
00:30:44,155 --> 00:30:46,355
He's not going to last long
with all these fathers.

619
00:30:46,405 --> 00:30:47,925
The fathers is saying no more.

620
00:30:48,635 --> 00:30:53,435
And so what we're seeing is that
it's evil implodes in itself.

621
00:30:54,245 --> 00:30:55,865
And that's what we are seeing right now.

622
00:30:55,925 --> 00:30:56,565
And so.

623
00:30:57,375 --> 00:30:58,325
We have to push back.

624
00:30:58,375 --> 00:31:03,715
And that's where my passion and I said,
if, if not you, then who, if we don't

625
00:31:03,715 --> 00:31:05,535
speak up, we won't have a country.

626
00:31:05,854 --> 00:31:07,195
We won't have men and women.

627
00:31:07,375 --> 00:31:11,605
They've done way too much to eradicate
both God, our genders in our country

628
00:31:11,805 --> 00:31:13,214
and radicalizing our institution.

629
00:31:13,394 --> 00:31:17,525
The only hope we have is a
grassroots movement towards actually

630
00:31:17,525 --> 00:31:18,915
becoming whole and fighting back.

631
00:31:19,855 --> 00:31:21,815
And so we don't have a choice.

632
00:31:21,875 --> 00:31:23,025
If we want a country.

633
00:31:23,730 --> 00:31:24,850
in the next five years.

634
00:31:25,270 --> 00:31:28,110
We don't have a choice if we want
safety for our children, our faith,

635
00:31:28,110 --> 00:31:31,110
to be able to practice our faith,
to be able to defend family life.

636
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:38,529
I mean, I can't stay silent in the
face of a massive attack on what

637
00:31:38,530 --> 00:31:40,419
it means for a man and a woman.

638
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,485
The fact that Men are afraid
to actually say, I want to be a

639
00:31:45,485 --> 00:31:49,775
man and I want to protect women
and without women attacking you.

640
00:31:50,715 --> 00:31:52,255
What has become of women?

641
00:31:52,845 --> 00:31:56,494
When they have become so
prideful, they are incapable of

642
00:31:56,495 --> 00:31:58,465
receiving the help of another.

643
00:32:00,165 --> 00:32:00,845
We don't want that anymore.

644
00:32:01,244 --> 00:32:03,245
We need men and we don't only need men.

645
00:32:03,344 --> 00:32:04,305
We want to honor men.

646
00:32:04,455 --> 00:32:05,605
We want to celebrate men.

647
00:32:05,705 --> 00:32:07,585
We don't want to just celebrate them.

648
00:32:07,735 --> 00:32:11,365
We want to put them in the rightful
place just because I can protect myself.

649
00:32:11,365 --> 00:32:12,894
That doesn't mean I want
my husband to protect me.

650
00:32:14,295 --> 00:32:16,085
And so that's, we're tired of it.

651
00:32:16,085 --> 00:32:17,555
So I'm seeing that shift.

652
00:32:17,555 --> 00:32:22,485
And I think actually I'm seeing
such a rise in men pushing back

653
00:32:22,485 --> 00:32:26,764
against the masculinization of
men and the sphere that, you

654
00:32:26,764 --> 00:32:27,734
know, you're going to get attack.

655
00:32:27,735 --> 00:32:30,284
It's like, where has the strong men gone?

656
00:32:31,095 --> 00:32:33,144
And I think we're seeing
them, they're rising.

657
00:32:33,145 --> 00:32:36,055
It's you, it's men that are saying,
no, I'm not putting up with this.

658
00:32:37,325 --> 00:32:38,519
I'm not putting up with this.

659
00:32:40,290 --> 00:32:41,980
You know, what's ironic, right?

660
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,570
As we look at the way things are, we,
we, we talk, use terms like liberal,

661
00:32:47,570 --> 00:32:49,179
conservative, right, left, right.

662
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,409
My biggest audiences are
in the most liberal states.

663
00:32:53,410 --> 00:32:58,450
This is not what you would
consider a liberal show.

664
00:32:58,859 --> 00:33:03,689
Uh, we have very conservative
values here, not overtly political.

665
00:33:03,719 --> 00:33:04,829
I'm not shy about it.

666
00:33:04,829 --> 00:33:06,319
It's just not what I
talked about on my show.

667
00:33:06,979 --> 00:33:09,809
Um, I've sat on a couple of
political shows and trust me, I will.

668
00:33:10,180 --> 00:33:17,140
Say exactly what I feel about this Uh,
but it's Like my biggest, my biggest

669
00:33:17,140 --> 00:33:19,430
audiences are in New York and California.

670
00:33:19,550 --> 00:33:20,180
That's crazy.

671
00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:21,260
That's really telling.

672
00:33:21,910 --> 00:33:22,320
Right?

673
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,159
That there's a hunger for it.

674
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,680
And I mean, and you know, here's
what I think about politics.

675
00:33:28,709 --> 00:33:32,529
I think that good people are not
in there because we've been so

676
00:33:32,529 --> 00:33:34,169
busy trying to raise our family.

677
00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:39,040
So we need to have, we need to put
good people in there, but that's not

678
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,140
where we're going to win this battle.

679
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:46,110
We have to win this battle soul per soul,
family per family, couple per couple.

680
00:33:46,730 --> 00:33:49,090
Because a lot of, you
know, what is it now?

681
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,460
30 percent of Gen Z don't believe in
marriage is why they probably don't know.

682
00:33:53,015 --> 00:33:56,755
Or haven't witnessed, because it hasn't
been modeled for them, what it means to

683
00:33:56,755 --> 00:34:00,515
be incredibly in love, alive in marriage.

684
00:34:00,555 --> 00:34:05,145
Because what is being advertised is
divorce, crazy chaotic motherhood,

685
00:34:06,024 --> 00:34:07,375
life ends when you're married.

686
00:34:07,385 --> 00:34:12,904
I mean, that's why we have to replace
that current model that's being pushed

687
00:34:12,925 --> 00:34:15,964
as a propaganda narrative and say,
where are the beautiful marriages?

688
00:34:16,045 --> 00:34:19,035
Because if we lived our marriage
so beautifully, if we understood

689
00:34:19,035 --> 00:34:22,934
what a beautiful woman is, more
women would want to be fully woman.

690
00:34:22,934 --> 00:34:22,994
Thank you.

691
00:34:23,620 --> 00:34:27,020
It's just that the model has
been so distorted, right?

692
00:34:27,020 --> 00:34:30,710
If they understood that family life
could be so abundant, so full, so

693
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:35,700
enriching, and so full of joy that it's
not this stressful, hard, chaotic, then

694
00:34:35,700 --> 00:34:38,589
maybe more people would want to have
families and preserve it and defend it.

695
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,770
But we cannot have that unless we train
the woman, which is why I'm passionate

696
00:34:42,770 --> 00:34:45,970
about the, you know, the school we
have for, in the woman's school, in

697
00:34:45,980 --> 00:34:50,459
the man's school, because we really
need to train women to remodel the

698
00:34:50,460 --> 00:34:54,240
current model of family, of faith,
of being what it means to be a woman.

699
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:55,370
We need a new model.

700
00:34:57,660 --> 00:35:00,479
Now guys, I promised you this
was going to go in a way that

701
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,670
was going to be worth your time.

702
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:07,380
And we're, we've been leaning up
to this conversation as we move

703
00:35:07,380 --> 00:35:12,650
through with what January is doing
with women, because she's right.

704
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,179
This takes both sides
being in harmony together.

705
00:35:18,660 --> 00:35:20,919
You in getting ready for the show.

706
00:35:20,919 --> 00:35:23,859
One of the things you had written
down was we were created to live a

707
00:35:23,859 --> 00:35:25,980
life of meaning and contribution.

708
00:35:26,270 --> 00:35:29,070
Now you believe people are born
with a purpose and I do too.

709
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,880
We were holding a sink on that.

710
00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:34,400
I know a lot of men who
struggle with self worth.

711
00:35:35,170 --> 00:35:41,560
How do you help the women you work with
believe that they have that meaning

712
00:35:41,590 --> 00:35:44,450
and they were born for something?

713
00:35:45,010 --> 00:35:49,570
Because I know so many guys struggling
with this, but convincing other

714
00:35:49,579 --> 00:35:53,530
people that they were born for a
purpose, for a meaningful purpose.

715
00:35:54,855 --> 00:35:55,505
It's a great question.

716
00:35:55,505 --> 00:35:56,335
How do you handle that?

717
00:35:56,735 --> 00:35:57,365
Great question.

718
00:35:57,365 --> 00:36:01,125
So let's first understand how even
your self worth was shaped because that

719
00:36:01,125 --> 00:36:02,865
will then we can reverse engineer it.

720
00:36:03,305 --> 00:36:05,675
So let's just have kind of
a common understanding that

721
00:36:05,695 --> 00:36:07,395
every human life is valuable.

722
00:36:07,715 --> 00:36:09,855
Nobody will ever be you and
nobody will ever be you.

723
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,500
So the first thing that we need
to understand is how then did

724
00:36:13,500 --> 00:36:17,530
I come to understand that I am
actually a valuable human being?

725
00:36:17,540 --> 00:36:24,130
Well, we are objectively valuable, but
it was subjectively revealed to us,

726
00:36:24,649 --> 00:36:30,280
meaning if I had a dad who loved me more
when I, did well in basketball, I might

727
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,790
start to think that I'm valuable only
if and when I can produce great work.

728
00:36:34,620 --> 00:36:39,899
What if I, you know, I was in a group
of guys and all of a sudden what made

729
00:36:39,899 --> 00:36:42,590
me valuable is my popularity, right?

730
00:36:42,820 --> 00:36:45,200
And so I start to think
that, Oh, I'm valuable.

731
00:36:45,210 --> 00:36:47,690
I'm more important if and when
I'm popular, or I'm not actually

732
00:36:47,690 --> 00:36:48,950
important because I'm less popular.

733
00:36:49,530 --> 00:36:53,685
Or we are in this, you're in this culture
as a man and you realize, well, What

734
00:36:53,695 --> 00:36:57,165
makes you actually more important people
like you people love you people give you

735
00:36:57,165 --> 00:37:01,755
attention if you've got this whatever
perfect body right whatever the muscular

736
00:37:01,755 --> 00:37:06,864
body and so what's happening now Brent
is that we have conditioned both men

737
00:37:06,865 --> 00:37:10,695
and women to believe that their value is
based on what they can offer the world.

738
00:37:11,195 --> 00:37:12,235
It's subjective.

739
00:37:12,474 --> 00:37:12,824
Why?

740
00:37:12,845 --> 00:37:16,205
Because it was given to them
subjectively based on the

741
00:37:16,235 --> 00:37:18,965
people that revealed it to us.

742
00:37:19,535 --> 00:37:23,165
But also our school system, you
know, we value people who go to

743
00:37:24,395 --> 00:37:30,740
Ivy Leagues, get an A, and We place
conditions on somebody else's value.

744
00:37:30,750 --> 00:37:36,490
So what I am, so that's the first thing
is understanding how our self worth was

745
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,829
shaped subjectively so that you're sitting
here and you're like thinking to yourself,

746
00:37:40,849 --> 00:37:43,920
well, I always think that I'm more
important when I've got a strong body or.

747
00:37:44,815 --> 00:37:50,055
You know, I'm, I'm making X, Y, and
Z and that has become a programming

748
00:37:50,115 --> 00:37:51,335
in your subconscious mind.

749
00:37:51,335 --> 00:37:55,384
So our brain is like a computer,
it's like a program, right?

750
00:37:55,385 --> 00:37:59,265
So I know that this is a pencil because
from the moment I was three years

751
00:37:59,265 --> 00:38:03,294
old, I was told this was a pencil
through the process of repetition.

752
00:38:03,294 --> 00:38:05,325
It's literally forming
a wiring in my brain.

753
00:38:05,695 --> 00:38:07,795
So if I tell you this is a
phone, you're going to look at

754
00:38:07,795 --> 00:38:10,065
me bright and you're like, that
is obviously not a phone, right?

755
00:38:10,425 --> 00:38:14,005
So if I tell you your value is.

756
00:38:14,825 --> 00:38:19,295
Unconditional, nothing changes it, but
you have been told all these years,

757
00:38:19,305 --> 00:38:22,425
they're only valuable and more important,
only if and when you make this much

758
00:38:22,425 --> 00:38:25,225
money, your body's perfect, you're
going to tell me, no way, January.

759
00:38:26,215 --> 00:38:29,065
Because what's happening is that
those neurological programs comes

760
00:38:29,065 --> 00:38:31,615
into our 95 percent of our brain,
our subconscious conditioning.

761
00:38:31,885 --> 00:38:33,044
So it doesn't matter what I tell you.

762
00:38:33,965 --> 00:38:36,794
It matters how it was shaped
in your neurological wiring,

763
00:38:37,424 --> 00:38:38,804
just like you learn a language.

764
00:38:39,124 --> 00:38:40,045
So what's the solution?

765
00:38:40,045 --> 00:38:42,685
So right now, most of the world.

766
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,290
have been conditioned to believe that
they're only valuable if and when.

767
00:38:46,980 --> 00:38:48,100
Their performance, right?

768
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:49,190
So what do we need to do?

769
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,680
Now, we have this beautiful tool in the
last 30 years that has really given us a

770
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,240
lot of ammunition called neuroplasticity.

771
00:38:56,500 --> 00:39:00,330
If people have had a stroke
before, they learn to walk again.

772
00:39:00,339 --> 00:39:00,569
Why?

773
00:39:00,570 --> 00:39:02,210
Because they're rewiring
back in their brain.

774
00:39:02,579 --> 00:39:07,535
So this model can tell us, well, If I
don't believe I'm worth it, if I feel I

775
00:39:07,535 --> 00:39:11,835
have a low self worth and I don't feel
I have a purpose, what we need to do is

776
00:39:11,835 --> 00:39:16,285
replace the conditioning in our brain,
literally, through neuroplasticity.

777
00:39:16,685 --> 00:39:17,605
So how do we do that?

778
00:39:17,715 --> 00:39:25,704
We rewire our brain and we say, I'm
valuable because I am, regardless.

779
00:39:26,795 --> 00:39:32,235
That needs to happen as a rewiring
formula, just like stroke victims.

780
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,240
Learn how to walk again, as if
you're learning a new language.

781
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,420
If you spoke English right
now, it's like learning French.

782
00:39:37,420 --> 00:39:38,850
So it's a very neurological process.

783
00:39:38,850 --> 00:39:39,660
That's step one.

784
00:39:40,070 --> 00:39:42,840
Number two is that you have
to give yourself evidence.

785
00:39:43,550 --> 00:39:51,030
of your self worth, meaning you have to
look at, you know, your unique, I would

786
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:58,149
say, experience of the world, your DNA,
your family that you're in, your aptitude,

787
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:59,279
what you like, what you don't like.

788
00:39:59,279 --> 00:40:03,749
And you look at that combination and you
realize, Oh my goodness, like nobody's

789
00:40:03,749 --> 00:40:05,310
ever going to be this person in the world.

790
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:09,370
Therefore, what I offer
in this world, nobody can.

791
00:40:10,020 --> 00:40:16,170
So when you just pause and actually give
yourself to think how valuable it is.

792
00:40:17,715 --> 00:40:20,925
to be who you are because nobody can
do what you do because of your unique

793
00:40:20,935 --> 00:40:26,115
combination, then you have to convince
yourself that you're so important

794
00:40:26,205 --> 00:40:27,295
because nobody will ever be you.

795
00:40:27,604 --> 00:40:31,915
So, and the third thing is that you
have to grow in competence, meaning you

796
00:40:31,915 --> 00:40:33,925
have to develop your skill after skill.

797
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,730
Confidence comes from competence, a lot
of time women say, I'm just not confident

798
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,000
or a man says, I'm just not confident.

799
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,290
Well, where does confidence come from?

800
00:40:40,510 --> 00:40:41,670
How do you become a great speaker?

801
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:43,860
You develop speaking skills, competencies.

802
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,459
And so I tell men out there, if
you have a low self worth, number

803
00:40:48,460 --> 00:40:49,890
one, you have to rewire your brain.

804
00:40:50,139 --> 00:40:52,399
Number two, you have to give
yourself evidence of your value.

805
00:40:52,660 --> 00:40:55,470
Number three, you have to develop
skill set after skill set after skill

806
00:40:55,470 --> 00:40:57,070
set, which is why we need training.

807
00:40:57,370 --> 00:41:00,370
And then that process is actually going
to open the door for you to realize,

808
00:41:00,370 --> 00:41:03,350
wait a minute, I have a purpose.

809
00:41:03,350 --> 00:41:03,420
Thanks.

810
00:41:03,950 --> 00:41:07,900
I've got something good to offer
this world, but all of this is

811
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:09,910
not going to make sense unless
actually you work through it.

812
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,390
It has to be a process.

813
00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:14,180
It's like, you're not
going to see yourself.

814
00:41:14,930 --> 00:41:18,850
You know achieve that gold medal unless
you actually start training for it.

815
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:27,740
About two years ago I posted my
most apparently controversial

816
00:41:27,770 --> 00:41:30,090
post On social media.

817
00:41:30,369 --> 00:41:35,410
I had no idea it was controversial
at the time, but people responded to

818
00:41:35,410 --> 00:41:41,540
it I had one person like I got flamed
hard Hmm, and it was a simple post.

819
00:41:42,030 --> 00:41:45,080
I think it was like ten things
every man should be able to do.

820
00:41:45,370 --> 00:41:52,720
Hmm And I had someone, I mean,
it's just go ballistic, right?

821
00:41:53,460 --> 00:41:54,820
Why, right?

822
00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:58,460
It's like, well, and, and I had
someone tell me, I was like, don't,

823
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,639
don't even bother to engage them.

824
00:41:59,650 --> 00:42:03,109
Like I argued this out with
them knowing that it's a losing

825
00:42:03,110 --> 00:42:07,520
proposition until I started to put
it into context for the person.

826
00:42:07,860 --> 00:42:09,860
Because they didn't bother
to look at my channel.

827
00:42:09,860 --> 00:42:10,300
Right.

828
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:13,640
They didn't bother to go,
Oh, he talks mainly to men.

829
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,240
So that's why he's addressing men.

830
00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:18,049
Holmes, like, look, honestly, I
think everybody should have these

831
00:42:18,049 --> 00:42:21,670
10 skills, but I talked to men.

832
00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:23,400
So my posts are addressed to men.

833
00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:29,039
They're like, Oh, it's like, and
these are all like basic skills.

834
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:29,450
Right.

835
00:42:31,530 --> 00:42:32,820
But they're basic.

836
00:42:33,210 --> 00:42:36,080
Uh, as you said, competencies, right.

837
00:42:36,420 --> 00:42:36,500
Yeah.

838
00:42:38,085 --> 00:42:44,385
Men used to stack as just part
of what we learn growing up.

839
00:42:44,395 --> 00:42:47,705
When we had classes like home ec,
when we were involved in things like

840
00:42:47,705 --> 00:42:51,185
the boy scouts, when we were at our
parents feet, learning, like I learned

841
00:42:51,185 --> 00:42:53,994
how to sew from my grandmother, right?

842
00:42:54,004 --> 00:42:55,864
They were basic competencies.

843
00:42:56,024 --> 00:43:01,015
Like I can sew my clothes because
I learned how it's in our house.

844
00:43:01,485 --> 00:43:06,185
We would patch holes instead of throw
away pants because pants were expensive.

845
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:07,670
Right.

846
00:43:08,410 --> 00:43:10,340
Basic competence skills.

847
00:43:11,260 --> 00:43:16,590
I find more and more people, both men
and women, are just not collecting.

848
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,480
Yeah, no, we're not.

849
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,950
And often, I'll just say, Brian,
our wounds blind us from the truth.

850
00:43:23,350 --> 00:43:27,564
So, whatever, sometimes I've come, you
know, especially in my line of work,

851
00:43:28,055 --> 00:43:29,545
You've got people that resist it.

852
00:43:29,935 --> 00:43:32,725
You have to see, I have to see
it in their own wounds, you know?

853
00:43:32,725 --> 00:43:34,855
And it's not that we can't learn
from the feedback, cause I'm always

854
00:43:34,855 --> 00:43:38,244
learning from the feedback, but
really people are coming in and they

855
00:43:38,245 --> 00:43:39,585
resist and they fight, they scream.

856
00:43:39,855 --> 00:43:41,285
And then you have to look at wonder why.

857
00:43:42,314 --> 00:43:44,385
Oh, because it actually
hurts to hear the truth.

858
00:43:46,505 --> 00:43:50,655
And that's why often a lot of times
people, and I think social media is

859
00:43:50,655 --> 00:43:53,655
just a platform where we've lost grace.

860
00:43:54,415 --> 00:43:56,795
We can say whatever we
think and feel we've lost.

861
00:43:57,430 --> 00:44:02,020
This idea of communicating as a, as
a woman, as a lady, or even as a man,

862
00:44:02,570 --> 00:44:07,070
you know, where we can barf all over
our words without accountability.

863
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,930
We need to have a better
sense of discretion as a man.

864
00:44:12,930 --> 00:44:16,469
And that's why I feel like
we need training because

865
00:44:16,590 --> 00:44:17,560
we don't know how to do it.

866
00:44:17,570 --> 00:44:20,539
Matt, I mean, sometimes I look at
the things that women say on social

867
00:44:20,539 --> 00:44:25,089
media and, um, their response
is very telling of who they are,

868
00:44:25,090 --> 00:44:26,099
more importantly, who they're not.

869
00:44:27,549 --> 00:44:29,900
And so we have to, I have to
know who you're dealing with.

870
00:44:29,900 --> 00:44:33,500
And there's no standard of grace anymore.

871
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,380
Like a woman can say
whatever she feels, right?

872
00:44:36,380 --> 00:44:39,730
And there's no discretion.

873
00:44:39,730 --> 00:44:42,010
We've lost the sacredness of
what it means to be a woman.

874
00:44:43,580 --> 00:44:44,320
And I'm sure men.

875
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,500
This is a men, men are on the same path.

876
00:44:49,765 --> 00:44:52,895
We're seeing some really crazy things.

877
00:44:52,935 --> 00:44:56,795
Uh, I, I hate the term that I I've
seen the term Manosphere out there.

878
00:44:57,885 --> 00:45:03,865
And I listened to other guys talk who
are in the quote unquote Manosphere.

879
00:45:04,995 --> 00:45:11,054
And we have guys, you were talking
about that, you know, those extremes.

880
00:45:12,154 --> 00:45:14,625
It's the same thing where
we're hitting these extremes.

881
00:45:14,625 --> 00:45:17,235
I was like, okay, well,
we have guys who are.

882
00:45:17,630 --> 00:45:21,660
Okay, being walked all over, and then we
have guys who are thumping their chest,

883
00:45:21,660 --> 00:45:26,590
grunting, saying we should just eat red
meat and forget women and, uh, right?

884
00:45:27,210 --> 00:45:30,489
We don't have conversations anymore.

885
00:45:30,689 --> 00:45:34,160
We don't know how to have conversations,
and that's precisely my point.

886
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:36,739
We don't know how to actually
talk to each other anymore.

887
00:45:36,750 --> 00:45:37,619
We don't have the skill.

888
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,600
It's like you only hang out
with people who believe in

889
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:42,540
the same things you believe.

890
00:45:42,930 --> 00:45:47,550
What, how, how are we ever going to change
the world if I can't break bread with

891
00:45:47,580 --> 00:45:52,280
people who have opposing beliefs and have
the humility to learn from them, but also

892
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,159
have the firm boundary to offer my belief?

893
00:45:55,705 --> 00:45:58,605
Without having to feel like we
need to be this emotional wreck.

894
00:45:58,625 --> 00:46:00,555
Part of the problem is that
we've lived in a world where

895
00:46:00,555 --> 00:46:01,815
there's no emotional command.

896
00:46:01,815 --> 00:46:03,335
Whatever you feel like becomes a God.

897
00:46:03,645 --> 00:46:06,075
And so women and men have
no command of their emotion.

898
00:46:06,345 --> 00:46:08,324
So everything gets heated
because there's no sense of

899
00:46:08,324 --> 00:46:09,615
reverence for the human person.

900
00:46:10,015 --> 00:46:11,405
And it's about how we feel and think.

901
00:46:11,745 --> 00:46:15,515
We've lost a sense of that's
interior self discipline.

902
00:46:15,875 --> 00:46:20,675
Both men and women, and that's why
I think the way forward has to be a

903
00:46:20,675 --> 00:46:24,845
new model of what a man and woman is,
where she's not a pushover, both men

904
00:46:24,895 --> 00:46:30,794
and women, but she's also, like you
said, not this incapable of listening

905
00:46:30,795 --> 00:46:32,245
to somebody outside of her own opinion.

906
00:46:33,614 --> 00:46:36,339
But see, to be that kind of person,
Brad, requires a lot of patience.

907
00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:39,160
Discipline, which is one
of my favorite words.

908
00:46:39,180 --> 00:46:43,090
I love the word discipline because
an undisciplined woman suffers, but

909
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:48,439
so does an undisciplined man, and a
disciplined man can conquer the world

910
00:46:48,730 --> 00:46:53,100
and the heart of the woman he loves
an undisciplined man will squander it.

911
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,149
Discipline to me.

912
00:46:55,515 --> 00:46:56,865
makes a man out of a man.

913
00:46:57,995 --> 00:47:00,385
It, it, and it does for a woman.

914
00:47:00,885 --> 00:47:03,975
And I'll tell you, women resist
the word discipline, right?

915
00:47:03,975 --> 00:47:07,435
Because they resist anything
hard in a culture that wants

916
00:47:07,445 --> 00:47:08,474
immediate gratification.

917
00:47:08,474 --> 00:47:12,555
I'm like, behind a beautiful life
and a beautiful woman, not based

918
00:47:12,555 --> 00:47:16,234
on external, is a woman hard at
work on her interior discipline.

919
00:47:17,224 --> 00:47:19,374
And that truly is where fulfillment comes.

920
00:47:19,644 --> 00:47:21,045
It's where a beautiful marriage comes.

921
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,890
It's where our beautiful family comes.

922
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,370
It's where and how we are
going to actually defend our

923
00:47:26,370 --> 00:47:29,360
country into your discipline.

924
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:34,810
We have to revive words such as
discipline, integrity into your,

925
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,230
into your freedom is actually new.

926
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:43,260
These things want us to almost
be kind of this honor, right?

927
00:47:43,289 --> 00:47:47,600
When you look at, when you look at the men
before and the women before, when you look

928
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,795
at the Greek, history and sure there's
a lot of baggage that comes with it.

929
00:47:51,135 --> 00:47:52,175
There was honor.

930
00:47:53,655 --> 00:47:55,855
Where's the honor of what it
means to be a woman and a man?

931
00:47:56,655 --> 00:48:01,005
I, I believe that we,
we're ready for that.

932
00:48:01,844 --> 00:48:04,605
We're ready for that new model
of manhood and womanhood.

933
00:48:05,004 --> 00:48:06,835
We are tired of what we have.

934
00:48:07,730 --> 00:48:11,540
We're just not offering a solution
and that's why I think, you know,

935
00:48:11,540 --> 00:48:15,090
in the women's school, I say, I
don't want another empowerment.

936
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,500
I want the solution.

937
00:48:16,569 --> 00:48:18,850
And the solution is you need
to be a woman of discipline.

938
00:48:19,740 --> 00:48:21,249
You have to conquer yourself.

939
00:48:21,519 --> 00:48:24,419
You have to, you can no longer
be a victim to your own emotion,

940
00:48:24,649 --> 00:48:25,539
to your past, to your present.

941
00:48:25,870 --> 00:48:32,860
You can redesign your life and make it
a life of both meaning and contribution.

942
00:48:33,540 --> 00:48:35,500
You can't design a beautiful
life as an end in itself because

943
00:48:35,500 --> 00:48:36,299
that's not even fulfilling.

944
00:48:36,300 --> 00:48:39,800
You can't just hoard all this materialism,
all these things that you want for

945
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,750
your sake because at the end of the
day, that also will be unfulfilling.

946
00:48:43,809 --> 00:48:47,940
And that's why women need to learn the
skill of living a life of contribution.

947
00:48:48,030 --> 00:48:48,870
You can't give what you don't have.

948
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,930
But see, the secret gift
of a woman is receptivity.

949
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:55,500
We need to know how to receive.

950
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:56,660
That's where our wombs are formed.

951
00:48:57,450 --> 00:48:58,420
That's how we have life.

952
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,380
We receive from a man and we nurture it.

953
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,910
And then what we give life from it.

954
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:06,099
The problem is that we don't
know how to receive from men.

955
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:07,959
We don't know how to nurture it.

956
00:49:08,550 --> 00:49:10,109
Therefore we can't give
life back to the man.

957
00:49:12,260 --> 00:49:14,059
The hell that's where the battlefield is.

958
00:49:16,749 --> 00:49:17,109
Guys.

959
00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:21,990
We've been discussing school purpose,
raising the bar discipline, and just

960
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,250
changing up the modern story because.

961
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:26,740
It's just not working.

962
00:49:26,810 --> 00:49:28,510
All you got to do is look
around and you can see it.

963
00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:32,470
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989
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Guys walking back in the last part
of the show, we're discussing school

990
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,370
and purpose and raising the bar
on ourselves and discipline and

991
00:50:49,290 --> 00:50:51,630
how there seems to be a change.

992
00:50:51,710 --> 00:50:55,770
The time is right to grow into
the people we want to become.

993
00:50:56,250 --> 00:50:59,080
And this part of the show, we're going to
talk about building a high value world.

994
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,400
What that really is going to
entail is high value men who are

995
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:04,900
raising the bar for themselves.

996
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,960
And high value women coming together
to form high value societies.

997
00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:12,430
That's the, that's the
direction we've got to go.

998
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,510
I mean, the world's changing right now.

999
00:51:14,510 --> 00:51:16,159
Gym memberships are actually plunging.

1000
00:51:16,170 --> 00:51:17,570
They're at an all time low.

1001
00:51:18,270 --> 00:51:23,959
Men are abandoning the gym because
there are so many of these young TikTok

1002
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,880
generation girls who are going in and
setting up their phones just so they

1003
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,940
can shame men for looking at them.

1004
00:51:30,750 --> 00:51:33,549
But actually gym memberships
are plunging in the U S it's no

1005
00:51:33,549 --> 00:51:35,340
longer a sacred space for men.

1006
00:51:36,295 --> 00:51:41,235
Uh, it's become every, every guy is
terrified to get caught on camera.

1007
00:51:41,235 --> 00:51:47,135
Now, looking at some girl coming in
half naked, uh, which I still, as a

1008
00:51:47,414 --> 00:51:48,985
personal trainer will never understand.

1009
00:51:48,985 --> 00:51:52,945
You don't really, you don't have to
take off that many clothes to work out.

1010
00:51:53,575 --> 00:51:57,495
Um, there's a movement, uh, known as
the MIGTOW movement, men going their

1011
00:51:57,495 --> 00:52:00,325
own way, which I've been railing
against for the last couple of years.

1012
00:52:00,555 --> 00:52:02,085
I absolutely hate this movement.

1013
00:52:02,505 --> 00:52:03,545
And the concept is.

1014
00:52:04,700 --> 00:52:07,330
Women are basically good to
gratify yourself with and we

1015
00:52:07,330 --> 00:52:08,530
don't need them for anything else.

1016
00:52:08,620 --> 00:52:11,290
They're nothing but trouble guys.

1017
00:52:11,290 --> 00:52:15,669
These are, these are horrible things
going on, but all we see is the negative

1018
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,780
most of the time in the media, because
that's what makes a good media cycle.

1019
00:52:19,420 --> 00:52:23,669
January is sharing some amazing
things with what she's seen with her

1020
00:52:23,669 --> 00:52:26,240
clientele and the women around her.

1021
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,790
And we're doing some amazing things.

1022
00:52:29,180 --> 00:52:33,110
You guys are incredible because you're
here wanting to level up as men.

1023
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,120
And so today we want to change
that conversation together.

1024
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:39,459
So January, here's the
game we're going to play.

1025
00:52:40,455 --> 00:52:43,205
We're going to talk about how to build
a high value society by helping each

1026
00:52:43,205 --> 00:52:47,185
other, but what we're going to do is
we're going to play a little ping pong.

1027
00:52:47,315 --> 00:52:51,955
I would love for you to share one
idea from a woman's perspective on how

1028
00:52:52,085 --> 00:52:54,135
we as men can help a woman level up.

1029
00:52:55,535 --> 00:53:00,314
And then I will share from a man's
perspective, how we as men are, how we

1030
00:53:00,314 --> 00:53:02,974
as, we'll see if I can say this right.

1031
00:53:04,224 --> 00:53:08,795
We can, uh, from a man's
perspective, a woman level up.

1032
00:53:09,635 --> 00:53:09,865
Okay.

1033
00:53:09,885 --> 00:53:10,915
So I would help.

1034
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,260
I would offer suggestions for men
or I would offer suggestions for

1035
00:53:15,260 --> 00:53:17,360
men from a woman's perspective.

1036
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:23,760
How do we help women level up and
how can then I'll offer a suggestion

1037
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,329
on how we can help women level up.

1038
00:53:27,300 --> 00:53:27,540
Great.

1039
00:53:27,940 --> 00:53:28,070
I love it.

1040
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:35,050
So balls in your court from your
perspective, January, how is it

1041
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:41,440
that from a woman's perspective,
men can help women level up?

1042
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:48,260
How can How can women help men level up?

1043
00:53:48,350 --> 00:53:56,380
Um, I would say discipline your mind
to discipline your eyes, discipline,

1044
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,959
how you look at other women and
honor your current relationship.

1045
00:54:01,030 --> 00:54:01,819
That's one of them.

1046
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,900
Um, okay.

1047
00:54:05,260 --> 00:54:08,710
So discipline, we are loving
the word discipline today.

1048
00:54:09,629 --> 00:54:12,730
Just such a bad rap, but it's
such a valuable, valuable thing.

1049
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,030
Only a good man would think it's a bad
rap, only a bad part, you know, like a

1050
00:54:16,030 --> 00:54:18,850
man who doesn't understand the value of
it would think it's a bad reputation.

1051
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,310
You need to discipline our eyes.

1052
00:54:22,740 --> 00:54:23,410
Discipline your eyes.

1053
00:54:23,410 --> 00:54:23,680
Yeah.

1054
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,980
And it goes to don't
fall for fallen women.

1055
00:54:29,550 --> 00:54:34,019
What I mean by that is if a woman has no
command and self respect in the way she

1056
00:54:34,019 --> 00:54:37,400
carries herself, be very mindful of that.

1057
00:54:42,729 --> 00:54:47,370
One of the ways that women can help us as
men level up, and I'm going to get a lot

1058
00:54:47,370 --> 00:54:51,395
of guys who are going to be really pissed
that I said this, Reintroduce the mystery.

1059
00:54:53,085 --> 00:54:55,195
A little modesty goes a long way.

1060
00:54:56,255 --> 00:55:04,435
Um, don't, you know, if, if you aren't,
right, why are we going to level

1061
00:55:04,435 --> 00:55:07,885
up if we can get it all for free?

1062
00:55:09,824 --> 00:55:10,505
I love it.

1063
00:55:11,045 --> 00:55:12,615
The mystery of a woman.

1064
00:55:13,060 --> 00:55:15,300
needs to be in marriage.

1065
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,810
It doesn't actually end.

1066
00:55:17,090 --> 00:55:20,220
I actually teach women what
it's like to have reverence of

1067
00:55:20,220 --> 00:55:22,050
yourself in context of marriage.

1068
00:55:22,590 --> 00:55:23,419
You don't squander.

1069
00:55:23,419 --> 00:55:28,670
So yes, I don't, you know, I think
there's a mystery even physically, but

1070
00:55:28,670 --> 00:55:35,050
also I think intellectually, I think
that there a man should want to be

1071
00:55:35,050 --> 00:55:38,220
hungry to learn from you and vice versa.

1072
00:55:38,250 --> 00:55:41,190
If you're as a woman,
you're constantly learning.

1073
00:55:41,890 --> 00:55:42,370
And growing.

1074
00:55:42,370 --> 00:55:46,470
And so you have this such rich
conversation that makes a man

1075
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:48,880
just want to be a better man
just by simply being around you.

1076
00:55:50,990 --> 00:55:51,750
I 100 percent agree.

1077
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:56,820
How about another one for us?

1078
00:55:57,420 --> 00:55:59,220
How can we help y'all level up?

1079
00:55:59,910 --> 00:56:05,200
Um, cast a vision for us,
cast a vision of a future.

1080
00:56:06,059 --> 00:56:09,010
Um, what I mean by that,
honey, or whatever.

1081
00:56:10,090 --> 00:56:15,570
Um, what would, what would it be like,
where would we be in a year from now,

1082
00:56:15,570 --> 00:56:18,390
whether it's in your family, whether
it's a marriage or just the world.

1083
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,420
Let's say you're single out there,
cast a vision and say, I want to live

1084
00:56:22,420 --> 00:56:24,830
in a world where women were respected.

1085
00:56:25,350 --> 00:56:28,870
I want to be able to, you know, be in
a marriage where we were both inspired.

1086
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,670
So be a man of vision, sell us
on a vision of a world that's

1087
00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:34,720
better than our current world.

1088
00:56:36,220 --> 00:56:38,820
It's so attractive when
a man can pass a vision.

1089
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:47,150
I'm absolutely an advocate of men pursuing
their purpose before they pursue women.

1090
00:56:48,010 --> 00:56:51,239
Because if you're pursuing your
purpose, it will attract a woman

1091
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,679
who will pursue that with you.

1092
00:56:57,900 --> 00:56:58,240
Okay.

1093
00:56:59,899 --> 00:57:03,480
Don't go into a relationship
thinking you're going to change us.

1094
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:09,820
Instead, become a woman that inspires
us to want to change ourselves.

1095
00:57:10,030 --> 00:57:10,469
I love it.

1096
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,500
It's, it's the only way I think.

1097
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:19,100
Women need to just stop and just
try to change a man and just change

1098
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:20,800
themselves to be an inspiring woman.

1099
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,349
And that's the only way to change anyone.

1100
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,880
There's not, I always say, I'm like,
don't even put that thought in your head.

1101
00:57:29,169 --> 00:57:31,620
Don't, you know, don't even
just love them where they're at.

1102
00:57:32,689 --> 00:57:35,619
Live a life that's inspiring and make a
decision if this is a man for you or not.

1103
00:57:35,620 --> 00:57:39,440
But to change them and to hope
for that is a false reality.

1104
00:57:44,855 --> 00:57:47,705
I do invest in your life of wholeness.

1105
00:57:48,025 --> 00:57:52,325
And what I mean by that is be a man who
looks at every part of your life, not just

1106
00:57:52,325 --> 00:57:56,474
your wealth, but your family life, your
intimacy, your friendship, your physical,

1107
00:57:56,474 --> 00:58:02,514
mental, emotional health, and inspire
us by being very intentional about every

1108
00:58:02,514 --> 00:58:05,354
part of your life and how you want to
design it and how you want to conquer it.

1109
00:58:06,855 --> 00:58:09,965
Because that inspires us to also live
a life that feels whole, which means

1110
00:58:10,025 --> 00:58:14,975
every part of us is accounted for,
it's designed, and also it feels fully

1111
00:58:14,975 --> 00:58:21,100
alive, because It's not just my career,
it's not just, you know, my body

1112
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:23,080
trying to be, you know, strong and fit.

1113
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,750
It's every part being valued.

1114
00:58:26,260 --> 00:58:27,010
That's inspiring.

1115
00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:30,030
It's a whole version of a man.

1116
00:58:31,530 --> 00:58:32,169
I like it.

1117
00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:36,819
Bring something to the table.

1118
00:58:37,459 --> 00:58:40,720
This is, this will take the steam out
of the big town movement so quick.

1119
00:58:41,380 --> 00:58:44,380
I've seen a guy who actually goes
around and asks women what they

1120
00:58:44,380 --> 00:58:45,860
bring to the table in a relationship.

1121
00:58:47,585 --> 00:58:54,585
Modern women in their pursuit to, uh,
feminism or whatever, what are you

1122
00:58:54,585 --> 00:58:56,205
bringing to the table in the relationship?

1123
00:58:57,255 --> 00:59:03,195
Have something, you may be a beautiful
woman, but you have to bring something

1124
00:59:03,195 --> 00:59:05,375
to the table besides just your beauty.

1125
00:59:06,975 --> 00:59:13,304
If you want a high value man, then
you have to be a high value woman

1126
00:59:13,304 --> 00:59:14,425
who brings something to the table.

1127
00:59:16,915 --> 00:59:18,875
You have to really be
investing in yourself.

1128
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,890
You know, to, to, to
continually do that my turn.

1129
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:24,530
Um,

1130
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,050
I would say, well, I'll do that next.

1131
00:59:30,140 --> 00:59:37,540
I would say pursue your woman,
conquer her, make her feel important.

1132
00:59:38,330 --> 00:59:40,409
Pursuit I think is a
beautiful word for a man.

1133
00:59:40,410 --> 00:59:44,759
Cause it really, I think is rooted
in their nature, in my opinion, to

1134
00:59:44,759 --> 00:59:50,010
conquer, to pursue, um, if you're
married out there and you're a dad.

1135
00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:55,470
Don't take those little things for granted
to make her feel important and special,

1136
00:59:55,950 --> 00:59:59,660
whether it's date night or making her
feel beautiful or those little things.

1137
00:59:59,919 --> 01:00:02,199
Never stop pursuing the
woman that you love.

1138
01:00:03,690 --> 01:00:05,280
Guys, this is something I can tell you.

1139
01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:10,020
As my wife and I are quickly approaching
our 23rd anniversary, this is something

1140
01:00:10,020 --> 01:00:12,510
I failed at for a long time, right?

1141
01:00:12,510 --> 01:00:15,439
This is something I had to reintegrate
into my life on my own journey,

1142
01:00:16,310 --> 01:00:23,280
was we hit that stride and I just
stopped actively pursuing my wife.

1143
01:00:24,069 --> 01:00:25,619
It took a good friend of mine.

1144
01:00:26,085 --> 01:00:28,255
Telling me is like, I've been
dating my wife for 20 plus years.

1145
01:00:28,255 --> 01:00:32,225
I was like, I am dropping the ball, right?

1146
01:00:32,235 --> 01:00:36,005
A hundred percent ladies.

1147
01:00:36,255 --> 01:00:37,134
Can I just say something though?

1148
01:00:37,134 --> 01:00:37,495
I'm sorry.

1149
01:00:37,495 --> 01:00:37,765
Right.

1150
01:00:38,395 --> 01:00:43,514
I was just going to say a woman also
needs to create the culture to be pursued.

1151
01:00:44,385 --> 01:00:48,375
Cause if you're naggy, if you're not
inspiring, if you're not learning anything

1152
01:00:48,375 --> 01:00:52,022
new, if your life is not lived with
also a vision and a purpose, then you're

1153
01:00:52,022 --> 01:00:56,490
not It's going to be hard to pursue you
if you don't make him feel important

1154
01:00:56,490 --> 01:01:01,440
or cook his favorite meal or dress up
for him, not for the world, for him.

1155
01:01:01,750 --> 01:01:03,129
Smell good before you go to bed.

1156
01:01:03,129 --> 01:01:06,220
I always tell women, put a perfume
before you go, but not for your sake.

1157
01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:08,340
But that's when you put
perfume for your man.

1158
01:01:09,095 --> 01:01:10,505
Be worthy of that pursuit.

1159
01:01:11,525 --> 01:01:13,765
Those little things goes a long way.

1160
01:01:14,025 --> 01:01:16,015
Beauty is often in the details.

1161
01:01:17,285 --> 01:01:19,735
And so don't lose sight in those things.

1162
01:01:19,735 --> 01:01:23,265
If his favorite thing is orange juice
in the morning, that's what you do.

1163
01:01:24,065 --> 01:01:25,615
He's the most important
person in your life.

1164
01:01:25,885 --> 01:01:30,345
Make sure that is actually,
um, that you practice it.

1165
01:01:30,645 --> 01:01:34,515
And especially when you have
children, when the priority becomes

1166
01:01:34,515 --> 01:01:37,114
your children, never lose sight
that your priority is actually

1167
01:01:37,114 --> 01:01:38,445
your husband before your children.

1168
01:01:39,235 --> 01:01:43,305
Never lose sight of that, right?

1169
01:01:43,305 --> 01:01:44,740
Just have to plug that in.

1170
01:01:44,740 --> 01:01:47,505
I like it ladies.

1171
01:01:47,505 --> 01:01:50,505
There's nothing that excessive
mileage adds value to.

1172
01:01:51,435 --> 01:01:55,785
Um, I, I saw a clip the other
day and the average 20 year old

1173
01:01:55,795 --> 01:02:00,855
has had over 20 plus partners.

1174
01:02:01,074 --> 01:02:01,915
That's unbelievable.

1175
01:02:02,005 --> 01:02:05,765
By the time they're like
20 to 21 in the modern era.

1176
01:02:06,545 --> 01:02:07,025
Okay.

1177
01:02:07,465 --> 01:02:10,525
Now I'm, I am a Christian.

1178
01:02:10,555 --> 01:02:12,195
I think you should try
and wait till marriage.

1179
01:02:12,245 --> 01:02:14,615
I'm not going to pretend that
I actually managed to do that.

1180
01:02:14,615 --> 01:02:14,749
Okay.

1181
01:02:15,550 --> 01:02:15,970
Okay.

1182
01:02:15,970 --> 01:02:19,760
I understand that, but there is
nothing in the world that high

1183
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,090
value mileage brings value to.

1184
01:02:23,370 --> 01:02:27,700
And I understand women want to be
liberated or whatever these days.

1185
01:02:28,699 --> 01:02:35,259
I was watching an interview with,
it was like, I think it was either

1186
01:02:35,259 --> 01:02:40,839
Charlie Kirk or Ben Shapiro, and he
was talking to some female porn stars.

1187
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:46,130
And it's like, they, they're not
understanding why men don't want to

1188
01:02:46,130 --> 01:02:50,130
be involved with them as they exit
their careers or while they're still

1189
01:02:50,130 --> 01:02:51,120
in their careers and it's like,

1190
01:02:56,115 --> 01:02:59,545
I don't understand how this
is a hard value for you, uh,

1191
01:02:59,545 --> 01:03:01,965
or a hard concept, right?

1192
01:03:02,264 --> 01:03:03,065
So distorted.

1193
01:03:03,335 --> 01:03:06,384
And I won't say that guys,
you should be any different.

1194
01:03:06,745 --> 01:03:11,375
Like really, you should be trying to
save yourself for that forever person.

1195
01:03:12,385 --> 01:03:14,065
I'm not going to lie and say, I made that.

1196
01:03:14,475 --> 01:03:17,045
I wish I had, because my wife did.

1197
01:03:18,085 --> 01:03:18,785
What an honor.

1198
01:03:19,225 --> 01:03:27,795
And so, you know, high mileage doesn't
make anybody better in that area.

1199
01:03:28,965 --> 01:03:32,355
Uh, I know it's, you
know, Oh, we're liberated.

1200
01:03:32,435 --> 01:03:33,035
Screw that.

1201
01:03:33,295 --> 01:03:33,695
Right?

1202
01:03:34,095 --> 01:03:37,705
Hold something back and be worth the wait.

1203
01:03:38,635 --> 01:03:40,145
Well, I think it's even a slavery.

1204
01:03:40,545 --> 01:03:41,455
It's not to be liberated.

1205
01:03:41,455 --> 01:03:43,025
It's a false sense of liberation.

1206
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,130
Because I'll even bring it down to
the reality that sure they can do

1207
01:03:47,130 --> 01:03:50,260
whatever you want when they're in
those closed doors They're insecure.

1208
01:03:50,690 --> 01:03:51,680
They don't like themselves.

1209
01:03:52,580 --> 01:03:54,339
They're wondering if this man
is ever gonna call them back.

1210
01:03:55,170 --> 01:03:56,440
They're disgusted who they are.

1211
01:03:56,950 --> 01:04:02,699
It is modern day Slavery to do whatever
you want, whatever you feel like with

1212
01:04:02,699 --> 01:04:07,510
whomever you feel like so don't sell
yourself a lie It doesn't feel good

1213
01:04:10,830 --> 01:04:11,130
guys.

1214
01:04:11,130 --> 01:04:14,070
I hope these tips are
Registering with you.

1215
01:04:14,070 --> 01:04:20,985
I hope they're helping now January
You work with women all the time,

1216
01:04:22,645 --> 01:04:26,335
and you're seeing their insecurities,
you're seeing their struggles.

1217
01:04:26,515 --> 01:04:36,765
What, what, what do you want to tell
men about interacting with them?

1218
01:04:40,024 --> 01:04:41,384
That's a great question.

1219
01:04:41,854 --> 01:04:44,854
That's a really, that's
a really great question.

1220
01:04:45,535 --> 01:04:46,785
Be patient with women.

1221
01:04:47,755 --> 01:04:53,275
They've been cast into the wolves,
some of you, but be patient with them

1222
01:04:53,275 --> 01:04:54,605
because nobody's showing them how.

1223
01:04:56,085 --> 01:04:58,145
Um, when every single time a woman comes.

1224
01:04:58,765 --> 01:05:01,255
and they have all these wounds
and it's not working, ask

1225
01:05:01,255 --> 01:05:02,925
yourself, who showed them how?

1226
01:05:03,155 --> 01:05:03,995
How to be kind?

1227
01:05:04,185 --> 01:05:05,005
How to be truthful?

1228
01:05:05,105 --> 01:05:05,985
How to be trustworthy?

1229
01:05:06,605 --> 01:05:07,435
How to firm boundaries?

1230
01:05:07,755 --> 01:05:09,765
Nobody's showing women how today.

1231
01:05:10,765 --> 01:05:14,365
Um, that's what I would say.

1232
01:05:14,434 --> 01:05:18,574
And um, don't lose, don't lose hope on us.

1233
01:05:20,735 --> 01:05:25,005
I think that when you lose hope, then
you just squander yourself as well.

1234
01:05:25,005 --> 01:05:26,485
And you don't think there's
good women out there.

1235
01:05:26,895 --> 01:05:32,835
Have hope that There's great women
out there who want to do something

1236
01:05:33,215 --> 01:05:36,335
meaningful with their lives, just
because the media tells you, you

1237
01:05:36,335 --> 01:05:43,024
know, this, um, is a recent influencer
that's been, I think, becoming famous.

1238
01:05:43,024 --> 01:05:43,725
Her name is Pearl.

1239
01:05:43,734 --> 01:05:45,145
I'm sure you know who she is, maybe.

1240
01:05:45,995 --> 01:05:49,735
Um, and I think men are resonating
with her because she's defending

1241
01:05:49,735 --> 01:05:52,985
men, and I think she does have a lot
of good points, but in her defense

1242
01:05:52,985 --> 01:05:54,385
of men, she's devaluing women.

1243
01:05:56,035 --> 01:06:01,605
And it's making us believe that all women
are just undisciplined and horrible.

1244
01:06:01,645 --> 01:06:04,755
And I'll say, then you've lost hope
in what it means to be a woman.

1245
01:06:05,785 --> 01:06:07,915
Therefore you've lost hope when it
means to be a man, because there's no

1246
01:06:07,925 --> 01:06:08,995
way we can do it without each other.

1247
01:06:10,145 --> 01:06:14,354
So don't lose hope on us and
be patient with our journey.

1248
01:06:15,255 --> 01:06:16,224
Um, don't settle.

1249
01:06:16,734 --> 01:06:17,374
I'd say.

1250
01:06:18,125 --> 01:06:21,325
Like, push back, don't settle
when men say, well, I can't,

1251
01:06:21,345 --> 01:06:24,525
when we become a victim of our
emotion, we're stronger than that.

1252
01:06:25,035 --> 01:06:29,125
Women are, don't, I always say, you
know, like, I, sometimes we make, women

1253
01:06:29,125 --> 01:06:32,445
make excuses that we just can't do it
because it's hard or we're just emotional.

1254
01:06:34,565 --> 01:06:35,144
Rise up.

1255
01:06:35,465 --> 01:06:38,145
And so we need men that's going to say,
no, that's, you're better than that.

1256
01:06:38,965 --> 01:06:41,075
You don't have to be a
victim to an emotion.

1257
01:06:41,085 --> 01:06:42,995
You don't have to be a victim
just because you're on your period

1258
01:06:43,015 --> 01:06:44,135
doesn't mean you can lash out at me.

1259
01:06:44,355 --> 01:06:45,065
That's not right.

1260
01:06:46,385 --> 01:06:49,195
Just because you had a bad day at work,
that doesn't mean you have to bleed.

1261
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:54,380
Your negativity into our home life
push back against a lesser version of

1262
01:06:54,380 --> 01:07:00,250
a woman and that's how we raise the
standard for each other I love it.

1263
01:07:01,220 --> 01:07:03,950
What's next for january donovan
any big projects in the works?

1264
01:07:04,300 --> 01:07:05,220
Oh, gosh.

1265
01:07:05,300 --> 01:07:13,865
Um Yes, I am in the process of um I
really want to reintroduce the rise

1266
01:07:13,865 --> 01:07:19,155
of a new woman, which is Buckminster
Fuller, who designed the Epcot, said,

1267
01:07:19,155 --> 01:07:23,175
you can't, and I'm paraphrasing,
you can't find the current model.

1268
01:07:23,234 --> 01:07:25,344
You have to break it and
actually create a new model.

1269
01:07:26,225 --> 01:07:32,564
And so my vision is to write a book
and say, we cannot, the current

1270
01:07:32,574 --> 01:07:35,853
model of woman, the feminism and
what it's been is no longer workable.

1271
01:07:35,853 --> 01:07:37,107
We're fighting the wrong battle.

1272
01:07:37,107 --> 01:07:38,613
This is how it should be.

1273
01:07:38,613 --> 01:07:40,619
And this is all the fractions of feminism.

1274
01:07:41,110 --> 01:07:43,690
We need to reintroduce a
whole new model of women.

1275
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:50,360
And so that's in my, um, my
vision is the rise of a new woman.

1276
01:07:51,035 --> 01:07:52,015
Which is who is she?

1277
01:07:52,065 --> 01:07:54,555
Who is she in context
of our current world?

1278
01:07:54,555 --> 01:07:57,785
How will she fight this battle
for faith, family, and freedom?

1279
01:07:57,935 --> 01:08:01,005
How is she going to train herself to be a
warrior for truth, beauty, and goodness?

1280
01:08:01,255 --> 01:08:02,945
Who is she for, for men?

1281
01:08:02,954 --> 01:08:04,195
Who is she for family?

1282
01:08:04,425 --> 01:08:05,555
Who is she for our country?

1283
01:08:06,094 --> 01:08:09,795
How will we take all the good from all
we've learned in the past and incorporate

1284
01:08:09,795 --> 01:08:13,625
to this new woman, but take away also
all the bad that has also degraded us?

1285
01:08:15,345 --> 01:08:16,835
and allowed us to settle.

1286
01:08:17,435 --> 01:08:22,285
So that's, I think, the project for
me is to reintroduce a new woman.

1287
01:08:22,315 --> 01:08:27,865
I'm currently in the process of, um,
actually doing a live launch and it's

1288
01:08:27,865 --> 01:08:29,765
called the new woman masterclass.

1289
01:08:30,155 --> 01:08:33,274
And I'm introducing who is
she and teaching women how to

1290
01:08:33,295 --> 01:08:34,524
actually become that woman.

1291
01:08:34,974 --> 01:08:39,430
So first the masterclass, which the
vision For all women to have the

1292
01:08:39,430 --> 01:08:42,500
foundation of who this new woman is,
who is she, and the foundation of how

1293
01:08:42,500 --> 01:08:44,780
to be a woman, and then write that book.

1294
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:51,350
And then hopefully off to Matt Walsh and
say, listen, can't talk about the problem.

1295
01:08:51,649 --> 01:08:52,370
Here's the solution.

1296
01:08:52,380 --> 01:08:56,520
This is how you become
a woman for such a time.

1297
01:08:58,060 --> 01:08:58,659
I love it.

1298
01:09:00,550 --> 01:09:03,220
Now, guys, let me give
you a little advice.

1299
01:09:03,980 --> 01:09:10,790
If what January is saying to you
is resonating with you, You cannot

1300
01:09:10,790 --> 01:09:12,530
just tell the woman in your life.

1301
01:09:13,020 --> 01:09:14,790
Hey, you need to check this woman out.

1302
01:09:16,690 --> 01:09:18,360
That's going to end badly

1303
01:09:22,740 --> 01:09:28,679
So you might share this podcast episode
with her right with that woman in your

1304
01:09:28,679 --> 01:09:35,100
life But telling a woman that she's doing
it wrong It's going to end badly for you.

1305
01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:39,630
I know I, I, for most of you don't
have to say that, but I have to

1306
01:09:39,630 --> 01:09:42,879
put it out there because someone's
going to like, leave me some flaming

1307
01:09:42,879 --> 01:09:47,780
comment about, Oh, I told my wife, she
needed to go check out January stuff.

1308
01:09:47,819 --> 01:09:56,429
And we're getting divorced now, you
know, don't, don't play that game.

1309
01:09:57,055 --> 01:09:59,505
January, where's the best place
for people to connect with you?

1310
01:10:00,035 --> 01:10:03,595
Um, so you can just find me
at the new woman masterclass.

1311
01:10:03,595 --> 01:10:07,975
com and that's kind of all in the whole
Um what this new woman is for such a

1312
01:10:07,975 --> 01:10:12,114
time as this but also on instagram I'm
january donovan in the woman's school.

1313
01:10:12,335 --> 01:10:12,525
com.

1314
01:10:12,525 --> 01:10:17,795
I think those are the best Places to at
least reach us for those two things guys

1315
01:10:17,795 --> 01:10:21,405
We'll of course have all of january's
links in the description show notes.

1316
01:10:21,405 --> 01:10:25,080
Whatever platform you're checking this
out on You Now, I know you're all really

1317
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,240
concerned about what South American
country you can indulge in the tradition

1318
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,050
known as asada, barbecue as asada.

1319
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:31,860
You said Brazil.

1320
01:10:31,860 --> 01:10:33,380
The answer is Argentina.

1321
01:10:33,380 --> 01:10:34,810
Ah, that was my other one.

1322
01:10:34,810 --> 01:10:40,239
Or you can just simply come to
where I live, which has a 97

1323
01:10:40,239 --> 01:10:42,930
percent Hispanic population, and
you can get great food anyway.

1324
01:10:43,745 --> 01:10:44,475
Oh, great food.

1325
01:10:44,475 --> 01:10:45,554
I love great food.

1326
01:10:45,635 --> 01:10:45,985
Oh, yeah.

1327
01:10:46,535 --> 01:10:54,154
We have the best Mexican food from all
areas of the Hispanic culture here in

1328
01:10:54,154 --> 01:10:57,885
town like mine, so I love a good food.

1329
01:10:58,335 --> 01:11:03,484
I have a friend who owns a grocery,
a Hispanic grocery, the deli case

1330
01:11:03,484 --> 01:11:05,054
there's the best restaurant in town.

1331
01:11:05,685 --> 01:11:09,145
Um, when I moved here, grandma and
grandpa, we're still in the kitchen,

1332
01:11:09,275 --> 01:11:10,905
kitchen, cooking things from scratch.

1333
01:11:12,065 --> 01:11:12,795
Amazing.

1334
01:11:13,995 --> 01:11:18,945
Now, January, if our listeners heard
nothing else in this entire conversation,

1335
01:11:19,114 --> 01:11:22,064
right, say they just tuned out.

1336
01:11:23,364 --> 01:11:25,305
What is the most important
thing you want them to hear?

1337
01:11:26,514 --> 01:11:30,115
Lead us, lead us.

1338
01:11:30,205 --> 01:11:30,615
We need you.

1339
01:11:31,715 --> 01:11:33,355
We need men in our life to lead us.

1340
01:11:36,020 --> 01:11:39,580
Guys for January and myself, thanks
for hanging out with us today.

1341
01:11:39,980 --> 01:11:42,730
Be better tomorrow because what you do
today, and we'll see you on the next

1342
01:11:42,730 --> 01:11:49,660
one, this has been the fallible man
podcast, your home for everything, man,

1343
01:11:50,079 --> 01:11:53,349
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1344
01:11:53,349 --> 01:11:57,030
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1345
01:11:58,020 --> 01:11:58,520
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1346
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January Donovan

Author, Speaker, Confidence Coach

January Donovan is the founder of The Woman School. She is a 2X #1 best-selling author, an entrepreneur, and a mother of 8 children. She has over 20 years of experience training women and was featured in Forbes in their Top Self worth coaching programs.

January’s bold dream is to build a school designed to train women with the practical skills to manage their lives. She spent 15 years training women for free before
realizing that in order to reach millions, she had to learn to build a business and do so while prioritizing her family. The business grew from 0 to a multimillion dollar company reaching 40 countries in under three years and landing her the title as one of Forbes Magazine’s top coaches.