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The 1% Who Make Love Last: Putting in the Work Year After Year

Unexpectedly, this couple's secret to a lasting relationship involves a surprising shift from secrecy to sharing. Learn how Meshach and Annabelle went from vowing to keep their relationship private to now openly spreading their wisdom to help others ...

Unexpectedly, this couple's secret to a lasting relationship involves a surprising shift from secrecy to sharing. Learn how Meshach and Annabelle went from vowing to keep their relationship private to now openly spreading their wisdom to help others achieve lasting love. But the real surprise? It all started with a promise to never share their relationship with outsiders. What changed their minds? Stay tuned for their eye-opening journey and the untold secrets of 1% love.

"I'm the reason why my relationship is like this. Good or bad, I'm the reason why." - Meshach and Annabelle

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Strengthen your bond and create a lasting partnership.
  • Discover the power of personal growth in relationships.
  • Foster a deep connection and a safe emotional space.
  • Align your dreams and aspirations for a shared future.
  • Cultivate meaningful relationships and make a positive impact.

My special guest is Meshach and Annabel

Meshach and Annabelle, a dynamic duo with nearly 20 years of experience in building a strong and sacred union, bring their wealth of knowledge to The Fallible Man Podcast. As intimacy alchemists, they offer a unique perspective on relationships, drawing from their personal journey of growth, ups and downs, and intentional efforts to cultivate deep connection and love. Meshach and Annabelle's candid and relatable approach to love and partnership provides valuable insights for couples seeking to enhance their relationship, making them the perfect guests for this episode.

The key moments in this episode are:
00:00:21 - The Grass is Greener Where You Water It
00:01:31 - Introducing Meshach and Annabelle
00:07:10 - Funny Family Stories
00:09:48 - Impactful Purchases
00:14:20 - Providing Tools for Personal Growth
00:14:58 - Understanding 1% Love
00:16:26 - Meshach and Annabelle's Journey
00:21:44 - Defining 1% Love
00:24:48 - Mature Intimacy
00:29:23 - Relationship as a Practice
00:29:48 - Building Intimacy in Relationships
00:31:23 - Sacred Unions and Relationship Vision
00:36:58 - The Challenges of Relationships
00:41:00 - Realistic Relationships and Building Intimacy
00:44:51 - Rebuilding the Foundation of the Relationship
00:47:21 - Embracing Change and Growth
00:48:11 - Importance of Self-Work
00:51:26 - Avoiding Blame and Taking Responsibility
00:54:59 - Reframing Disagreements as Opportunities
00:59:45 - Practicing for the Competition
01:00:45 - Sharing Their Relationship
01:01:19 - Legacy and Impact
01:02:28 - Connecting with Audience
01:04:42 - Key Takeaway

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Transcript
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If our audience hears nothing else
out of this conversation, what do

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you want them to take away today?

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Ready?

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Yeah, I feel like
there's another takeaway.

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I feel like there's another takeaway.

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Let's say that and then
we'll add on to it.

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Okay, ready?

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Three, two, one.

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The grass is greener where you water it.

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Here's the million dollar question.

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How do men like us reach
our full potential?

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Growing to the men we dream of being
while taking care of our responsibilities,

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working, being good husbands, fathers,
and still take care of ourselves?

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Well, that's the big question.

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In this podcast, we'll help you
answer those questions and more.

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My name is Brent and welcome
to the Fallible Man Podcast.

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Welcome to the Fallible Man
Podcast, your home for all

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things man, husband, and father.

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Big shout out to Fallible Nation.

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That's our private community.

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There's more about that in the show
notes or the description and a warm

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welcome to our first time listeners.

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Hey, I know there's a lot out
there, so thank you for taking

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the time to give us a shot.

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Please leave us a view, a comment,
let us know, reach out to us on

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social media at The Fallible Man.

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Tell us what you think of the show.

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We'd love to hear your opinion.

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My name is Brent and today my guests are
intimacy alchemist Meshack and Annabelle.

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Meshack, Annabelle, welcome
to The Fallible Man podcast.

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for having us.

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It's a pleasure.

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Thank you.

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And thank you for jumping
with the time differences.

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This is one of the cool things about
podcasting is we can be all over the

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world and still do these great things.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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We're in this together.

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So how's your trivia?

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Ooh, trivia, I don't know.

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I can't say, I haven't done a trivia
quiz of any kind in many years.

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It's definitely not our remit.

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Let's do it, let's do it.

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Let's do it, let's go, let's go.

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Okay, here's the show trivia.

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Who is generally considered
the inventor of the motor car?

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Is it A.

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Henry Ford, B.

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Carl Benz, or C.

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Henry Leland?

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We did this the other day with the boys.

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I don't know if we did this.

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Now, I'm going to say, I feel like
it's a trick question, I think

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generally considered, however, and
that is the question, generally

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considered it would be Henry Ford.

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I think it's generally
considered that they said the,

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is it the sports place at all?

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The motor car, the motor car car in
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Who's generally considered that.

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Okay.

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Now guys, you know, the
rules play along at home.

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Don't cheat.

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Don't write.

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If you're driving,
please, that's not safe.

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And we'll come back to
that later in the show.

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Now you guys have listened to the show.

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So, you know, I'm not in introductions.

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So in your own words today,
in this moment, who is.

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Me, Shaq, and Annabelle.

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In this moment.

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Do you want to go first, baby?

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In this moment?

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Yes.

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We are autonomous beings.

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We are forever becoming.

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We are parents.

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We are spouses.

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We are lovers.

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We are thrill seekers.

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We are adulting.

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We are learning.

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We are unlearning.

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We're expanding.

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What else?

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I feel like you covered it.

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That was beautifully said.

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That was beautifully said.

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I don't think I would add anything else.

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If you won 10 million tomorrow,
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10 million dollars.

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Oh, I mean, there's so much that
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Um, there's so much that we would break it
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We would definitely invest it, but I feel
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would finally take the boys to Disneyland.

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Our sons to Disneyland.

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For sure.

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Without any, without any concerns
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payments of this or payments of that.

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So that's for sure.

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And it would be on first, first class.

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And it would be at a five diamond resort.

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100 percent That's for sure.

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What is your favorite childhood memory?

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Do you know what's come up for me?

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Randomly.

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So we were talking about
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So after school, you know,
they've got after school programs.

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It's eating these, um, I don't
know what you call them in the U.

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S., but like these biscuits, digestives.

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Are you familiar with those?

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Like a baked biscuit.

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It's like the most basic one you can have.

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With like orange squash.

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And eating the rim where it was
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the squash until it's broke apart.

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What?

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Wow.

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And being outside.

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Yeah, what's my favorite memory?

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Being a child, I feel like it's, I, at
a point, lived in or dwelt in Kenya, and

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that was, I had really fond memories in
Kenya, and I think that going to school

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on a boat was a majorly fond memory, going
for, because we lived on a little island,

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and I went to school on another island, so
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take a boat, so I feel like that, that's
a major memory that comes to mind for me.

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Very different.

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See, and for those of us who are a
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there were islands around Kenya.

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Yeah, there are.

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That's, that's amazing.

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Is that like off the coast
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Um, I can't remember the exact
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geography, like the actual geographical
research, but I feel like it's,

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uh, it's near Mombasa, which is one
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It's on the coast.

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It's Lamu.

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That's what the island was, but it's
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are concerned, closest to Mombasa.

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If I was to sit down and have
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whole family, what is a funny story
your family would tell on you?

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Oh, God, a funny story.

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Tell on us.

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They'd be talking about us.

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So imagine my sisters, let's say
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whoever else were around the table.

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And they're just cracking up, talking
about this occasion between us.

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Gosh, I didn't, I didn't know
there was that time you wore

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that wig, that ginger wig.

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There was that.

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One of my sister's wigs, and
that was for my birthday.

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That was, I believe, six
years ago for my birthday.

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And we were at my mom's stroke
sister's house and my sister has a

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few weeks and I wore both of them.

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I wore a black wig and a brown wig like
Teen Wolf, but like, yeah, that's true.

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I've got pictures to prove this.

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I've got pictures to prove this Brent.

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So maybe I'll send you one after the show.

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They would definitely talk about that.

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Oh, thank you for sharing that.

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That's a great visual.

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I'm genuinely like Teen Wolf.

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Annabelle is not exaggerating.

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That's right.

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We, we, we all have those great stories.

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I, uh, there, there is actually
photographic evidence of me.

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Going as a woman for Halloween in
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high school, I had hair all the
way down the middle of my back.

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So I actually legitimately went
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when I was 17 or something.

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Was it a woman of notoriety or
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Me and my best friend went as women.

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We were both, uh, competitive
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And so we went as women.

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With his girlfriend and the three of us
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like three, three lovely young ladies,
three lovely young ladies having a party.

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Just hanging out.

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I think the more disturbing fact was the
Taco Bell manager actually hit on me.

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Oh my days.

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Those days are gone, right?

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Yeah.

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My Taco Bell manager says.

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Not generally with the beard, right?

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It just doesn't.

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Hey.

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Hey.

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It's an interesting world
we live in sometimes.

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But yeah, we'll just send me the picture.

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We'll put it in the show notes.

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Nice little note in there.

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Download it would be a
Google drive link, right?

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And it'll be download this.

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Absolutely love to see that.

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That'd be good.

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What purchase of a hundred dollars or less
have you guys made in the last year that's

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had the biggest impact on your life?

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The purchase of one hundred
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there's, there's quite a few.

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I wasn't saying pull up
bar, but A pull up bar?

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I've been using my pull up bar
every single day for maybe a

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month and a half since Annabelle
got it for me for my birthday.

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Oh, me and your mum were in cahoots.

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Yeah.

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Cause he's, he's really hard to buy for.

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So we have to go practical
with him all the time and he's

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been on there like the Hulk.

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Yeah, so the thing is, when Annabelle
says I'm hard to buy for, it's not

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that I don't appreciate presents, it's
more I'm a practical guy, so if, if

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I'm gonna have a present, I'm gonna
use it, so it needs to be something

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practical as opposed to sentimental.

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So I would definitely say that that's
been a great present because I use

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it every single day without fail.

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And a ring light.

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A ring light's been great.

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Which is what we're using right now.

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Very helpful.

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Very.

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How many pull ups were you up to?

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I'm up to in one goal, wide grip, 15.

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That's huge, dude.

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That's, that's like top
1 percent right there.

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Less than 3 percent of the populace
actually works out regularly.

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I'm also a personal trainer.

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Uh, less than 3 percent of the American,
I can say the American, I'd say the,

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uh, first world nations, uh, less than 3
percent of the general populace works out.

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Three days a week or more.

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It's insane.

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And I'm over here, and we're over here in
our bubble because we work out regularly.

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Even though we don't have gym
memberships, we're just at home training.

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And it feels like, oh, this is
standard procedure and protocol.

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I feel so much better now.

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Wow.

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I feel so much better now.

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Being able to do 15 consecutive wide
grip pull ups, most people can't do one.

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Fewer people can do three.

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Once you're at where you can do
sets of 10, you're doing great.

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And that's the great thing, actually,
having done it so consistently now it's

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more or less like, right, I do my 15
and then I have a short break and then I

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can do another 10 shortly after, even if
it's on the middle grip and close grip.

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So it feels good to be building
up that conditioning as well.

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That's awesome.

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It's the fallible man, baby.

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The fallible man.

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Peas.

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Not far behind you.

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Biggest pet peeves.

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Oh, biggest pet peeves.

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Oh my god, I've got so many.

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Yawning.

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I don't know what it is.

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If I can see someone's tongue
when they yawn, I literally

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immediately want to throw up.

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So we were on the underground, the
subway here in London, the underground,

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and And it happens quite regularly, or
more regularly than one would expect,

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where someone on a, on a full carriage
would just be like It's like if you've

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seen, if you've seen a lion roar in
slow motion, it looks like that and it

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just An animal's like what, why, how,
when, where I just can't handle it.

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Yeah.

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I get it.

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Like any mouth sounds, sort of like any of
that, I literally unfold, I can't do it.

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Yeah.

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I would say mine is, after
a cooking spree at home, an

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untended to or unredeemed kitchen.

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So a kitchen which has onions
still on the chopping board.

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Which has plates and bowls still in it.

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After everyone's been fed.

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Yeah, that's a big pet peeve.

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And it's because I've actually
touted myself a master of

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cleaning as I go when I cook.

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So when I witness anything other
than that in our household, it

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really drives me up the wall.

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Can you tell this is a
regular topic of discussion?

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I can, I can.

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Oh, that's funny.

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What's one completely random fact
people don't know about you guys?

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I used to have one.

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Now I don't know.

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A random fact.

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I feel like most people don't
know that I did my 800 meter

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swimming badge when I was younger.

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So when I was about 10 or 11,
I did my badge for 800 meters.

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in front crawl, I believe.

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It was either front crawl or
breaststroke, so I don't think

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anyone knows that about me.

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Mine's not as exciting, but I once saw a
porcupine that was about two meters tall.

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In Ghana, in a zoo.

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I haven't seen one since.

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When was that?

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In the mid 90s?

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Yeah.

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I feel like it wasn't two meters tall.

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I feel like you were really short and
you thought it was two meters tall.

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was probably about half a meter.

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No, it was two meters tall
because the zookeeper was stood

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next to him and he was a man.

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And the only proof I have is that
my brother was there with me.

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So the question, is that a fun fact?

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It's about the porcupine,
or about you, that I saw it.

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Oh, right.

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Like I said, there's no wrong answers.

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I enjoyed this part of the show just
because I enjoy getting to know people.

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Oh, I love that, yeah, that
was awesome, I love that.

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So what is one thing everyone
should know before we dig into

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the subject matter for today?

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What is something that
everyone should know?

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Yeah, that, um We're not the
finished article and we're really

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passionate about providing tools
that work, that are tried and tested.

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and that what we're talking about
is possible for whoever wants it.

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Because we, we can say that unequivocally
because we've been there, we've done

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it, and we're still there, and we're
still doing it, and we know that

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it does work when you are working.

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Yeah.

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And it's, and it's a practice.

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All right, guys, we've been getting
to know Meshack and Annabelle

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a little bit, and just who they
are and connecting with them.

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In the next part of the show, we're
going to dive into 1 percent Love.

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What is it?

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What does a successful
relationship actually look like?

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All right, guys, welcome back.

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And the first part of the show,
we spent some time just getting

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to know who Meshack and Annabelle
are and seeing them as people and

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understanding a little bit about them.

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And this part of the show, we're
going to dive into 1 percent love.

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What is it?

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What are we talking about?

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What does a successful, success,
if I can say successful at 6

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something in the morning, what does
a successful relationship look like?

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Now, I, we'll, we'll start off guys with
just how long have you guys been together?

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Mmm, coming up to 20 years.

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Yeah?

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20 years.

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We've known each other
for, 22, 23 years now.

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Yeah, about to, we're about to go into
our 23rd year of knowing each other, but

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we've been together for nearly 20 and it's
been a hell of a ride, that's for sure.

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An amazing adventure.

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Good, that's what I was looking for.

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What does that mean?

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Yeah, 20, 20 years we've been together.

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Okay, well tell us a story.

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Tell, tell us the story
of Meshack and Annabelle.

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Well, first and foremost,
we met in a choir.

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We are both singers, still to this day.

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We still perform regularly.

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We do a lot of private events, a lot of
private parties, all across the world.

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And we met, nevertheless, when we
were about 15 or 16, in this choir,

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and we became really good friends.

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So we were friends for a few years, and
then there was this one pivotal night.

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which changed absolutely everything where
we were at a friend's house with a bunch

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of friends got on a Saturday night as we
did went over we're in our late teens at

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this point and something changed there
was a tension in the air tensions rose

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passions rose and the next thing we knew
we were like wait what what what's going

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on here and that's what began things
and Yeah, and then there was a series

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of ups and downs, and ups and downs.

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Make ups and break ups for
the first couple of years.

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Make ups and break ups, and
then we decided finally that

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we were going to be together.

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There was a lot of growth, and I think the
beautiful thing is, we have had some of

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our formative and pivotal years together.

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We've grown up together.

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And then we entered into, you know,
being girlfriend and boyfriend,

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and then it was fiancé, and then
it was spouses, business partners.

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And You know, we have parents as well.

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Parenthood.

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Oh, God, what a sale.

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Um, so yeah, that's,
that's been the journey.

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And there's just been a lot of
learning, as he said in the unlearning

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as well, growing into growing apart.

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Um, and it's a wonderful
cacophony of sorts that we have,

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that we call our life together.

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I love, I love that you guys have history.

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I think some of the most.

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Prolific couples that you meet have
this crazy mix up history where they're

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together and then they weren't it was good
It was not it was we were younger and then

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we did this and we were with this, right?

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They have these backstories of This
built a foundation for their for

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who they are It builds that history
together, which I think is incredibly

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important And, right, 20 years,
that's, that's nothing to sneeze at.

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I, uh, the, the competitive nature in
me went, I, I want to be like, Woooo!

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You got a seat.

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Yeah, right.

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Wow.

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Congratulations.

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Right, and that, that's what, that's what
blows my mind these days though, right?

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You go back two generations,
and you got couples that have

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been together 40, 50, 60 years.

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I understand that.

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Long relationships.

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And now people hit 20 of the years.

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They're like, Whoa, you've
been married forever.

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Like, uh, I went to my parents 45th, man.

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What are you talking about?

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And so that, that is part of the
reason we're having this conversation

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today is there are so many
relationships that struggle, right?

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I don't know if it's difference
in the way we're taught or the

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expectations, but so many relationships.

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don't have that lasting love.

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And so you guys talk about 1 percent
love website, part of your program.

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And so what is 1 percent love?

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1 percent love is essentially
You know, it's what 99 percent of

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people are not willing to do in
order to maintain the intimacy, the

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relationship, the joy, the partnership.

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It's when you see a couple and you see
them, they've got that bond, they've

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got a bond, there's a connection.

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And you can't really put it into words.

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It's that, it's, it's that kind
of, what do they call it in French?

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I don't even know.

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But it's the essence of that
togetherness, that connection.

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Um, with a couple.

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Yeah, and also when, when people see
this type of love between a couple or

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those who are in a partnership, they
say, Wow, how are they so in tune?

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How are they so connected?

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What is it that they've done to
generate or acquire this type of love?

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I want that.

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What do I need to do?

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So it's that type of love.

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And Annabelle said, as Annabelle said,
that really comes from being the 1

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percent who are willing to do what
it takes to Go the distance with each

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other and have it all with each other.

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Now guys, let's be really clear.

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With the audience, we're not talking that
nauseating puppy dog Crap you see in the

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first year or two like those those new
couples and that puppy dog phase that

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is like mauling each other all the time
in public and Making cutesy baby noises

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at each other and coming up with a plea.

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This is not what we're talking
about Yeah, this is, and, and

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that's what I was about to get onto.

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This is the, you know, the people that are
able to say, I love you, but I don't like

459
00:22:14,134 --> 00:22:16,985
you right now, but I love you and because
I love you, I'm willing to work on it.

460
00:22:17,685 --> 00:22:22,814
It's going through the grievances and
understanding each other and knowing that

461
00:22:23,085 --> 00:22:27,054
you're united in where you're going, not
necessarily where you're at right now.

462
00:22:27,465 --> 00:22:29,995
And it's choosing each
other over and over again.

463
00:22:30,195 --> 00:22:34,694
When you can't stand each other, when,
you know, when one of you's not having

464
00:22:34,694 --> 00:22:39,015
a good time, you When one of you are
having a great time, it's celebrating

465
00:22:39,465 --> 00:22:43,025
together and also needing space,
but knowing that like, we're a team.

466
00:22:43,975 --> 00:22:45,504
It's that, that's the difference.

467
00:22:45,585 --> 00:22:48,744
And you know, there's a place
for the gooey gooey thing, but

468
00:22:48,934 --> 00:22:50,565
you know, it has a sell by day.

469
00:22:50,595 --> 00:22:52,845
And we didn't want to hear that
when we first got together, but

470
00:22:52,865 --> 00:22:55,445
it definitely has a shelf life.

471
00:22:55,615 --> 00:22:57,351
Yeah, it has a shelf life.

472
00:22:57,351 --> 00:22:59,695
And it definitely has
a self by sell by day.

473
00:23:00,074 --> 00:23:03,615
If you don't have the framework
and your structure in place.

474
00:23:03,989 --> 00:23:09,779
to enable yourselves when you meet
the, or when you go past the honeymoon

475
00:23:09,810 --> 00:23:14,299
period, as they've termed it, if you
don't have the framework and tools to

476
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:18,580
get you past that point and into a new
iteration of your relationship or sacred

477
00:23:18,580 --> 00:23:24,980
union, then that puppy dog, puppy eyes,
or whatever you would call it, that is

478
00:23:24,980 --> 00:23:27,020
definitely gonna have a sell by date.

479
00:23:27,290 --> 00:23:31,190
We've found that the reason, one of the
reasons why we can term it 1 percent

480
00:23:31,210 --> 00:23:35,100
love is because Even though we still
go through the same issues that people

481
00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:39,100
go through we've been able to and
this is why we call ourselves intimacy

482
00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:43,780
alchemist We've been able to alchemize
or transmute or transform the experiences

483
00:23:43,790 --> 00:23:47,909
We have yeah And actually enable us
to get back into a real intimate space

484
00:23:47,910 --> 00:23:52,129
where there are times and seasons where
we do have that That real touchy feely

485
00:23:52,159 --> 00:23:54,620
thing doesn't happen every season Right?

486
00:23:54,620 --> 00:23:56,450
There are seasons where it
doesn't, doesn't happen.

487
00:23:56,820 --> 00:24:00,930
But, we're a lot more intentional about
what we're crafting and creating with

488
00:24:00,930 --> 00:24:02,400
each other now, as opposed to before.

489
00:24:02,620 --> 00:24:02,950
Yeah.

490
00:24:03,010 --> 00:24:04,449
And that's what 1 percent love really is.

491
00:24:04,510 --> 00:24:07,730
It's like, you know, when you have a
disagreement with someone, and then,

492
00:24:07,780 --> 00:24:10,520
I don't know how many people think
like this, but it's like, okay, if we

493
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,875
can get through and past this, with
understanding and listening of each other.

494
00:24:15,784 --> 00:24:19,245
We could be stronger, it's that, and
knowing actually that we have that.

495
00:24:19,705 --> 00:24:23,435
We actually are like, okay, we're gonna
have this bit, we recognize it as a

496
00:24:23,435 --> 00:24:26,724
speed bump, and on the other side of
it, there's growth, and it's like, we've

497
00:24:26,734 --> 00:24:28,534
got more armor now for the next one.

498
00:24:28,945 --> 00:24:31,234
That's what it is, it's choosing,
and that's where we choose

499
00:24:31,234 --> 00:24:32,544
each other over and over again.

500
00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:37,490
I like that terminology that we choose
each other daily and over and over again.

501
00:24:38,090 --> 00:24:41,960
And, and I feel, I feel like the,
you know, before I get bagged on

502
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,210
for being the, I hate love guy.

503
00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:44,659
Okay.

504
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,434
There's a fine line between
that obnoxious puppy dog love.

505
00:24:54,225 --> 00:24:56,695
Because I've been accused of
not being able to be around

506
00:24:56,695 --> 00:24:57,685
my wife without touching her.

507
00:25:00,354 --> 00:25:03,344
And to me, I was like, thank, thank you.

508
00:25:03,394 --> 00:25:08,705
I'm not really sure how to, that's
a negative, but right after 22 years

509
00:25:08,705 --> 00:25:11,844
of marriage, I still, if we're in
the same room, if we're anywhere

510
00:25:11,845 --> 00:25:15,639
close to each other, and it doesn't
have to be a Like sexual touch.

511
00:25:15,710 --> 00:25:19,250
It's a, I want to, I'll have my
hand on her hip or on her shoulder.

512
00:25:19,740 --> 00:25:21,030
Uh, touching her hand.

513
00:25:21,270 --> 00:25:24,580
Like I can't be around her
and not be touching her.

514
00:25:25,470 --> 00:25:26,940
And so let me be really clear.

515
00:25:26,940 --> 00:25:29,699
I'm talking about that smoochy smoochy.

516
00:25:29,719 --> 00:25:33,189
And I love, I love couples have been
together for years that still kiss

517
00:25:33,189 --> 00:25:34,810
in public and hold hands in public.

518
00:25:34,850 --> 00:25:37,699
And they, you can see they're together.

519
00:25:37,699 --> 00:25:38,940
They want to be together.

520
00:25:39,260 --> 00:25:40,410
I'm not talking about that guys.

521
00:25:40,410 --> 00:25:44,049
I'm talking about that
obnoxious teenage nonsense.

522
00:25:45,060 --> 00:25:50,330
Where you're just following each other
in public, there is a difference, right?

523
00:25:50,330 --> 00:25:53,460
There's some, uh, maturity, right?

524
00:25:53,710 --> 00:25:56,730
We start to learn at some
point that that's just not

525
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,350
what you do in general public.

526
00:26:00,350 --> 00:26:02,600
Now, what you do behind
closed doors, right?

527
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,090
When you walk through your house, if you
can't help them all each other, great.

528
00:26:05,199 --> 00:26:08,270
I'm glad there's that much
intimacy and that much excitement

529
00:26:09,470 --> 00:26:11,110
wherever you are in your marriage.

530
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:12,970
Right.

531
00:26:13,995 --> 00:26:16,940
You know, let me just let me clarify
that because I feel like I'm gonna get a

532
00:26:16,940 --> 00:26:19,785
lot of hate and like Oh, he hates love.

533
00:26:20,335 --> 00:26:27,234
No I I adore my wife and I can't help
but be want to be with her and touch

534
00:26:27,235 --> 00:26:33,684
her and be near her But I just I I walk
around right and you see and we all

535
00:26:33,685 --> 00:26:38,590
see it You go to the store and you're
like, there's that Those teenagers

536
00:26:38,590 --> 00:26:44,105
making out, like, over a cart as they're
walking through, uh, Walmart in London.

537
00:26:44,105 --> 00:26:45,789
Oh yeah.

538
00:26:46,270 --> 00:26:47,480
Did you say Walmart?

539
00:26:48,139 --> 00:26:48,479
Yeah.

540
00:26:48,639 --> 00:26:48,939
Yeah.

541
00:26:49,380 --> 00:26:50,710
No, we've got Asda here.

542
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:51,600
Asda.

543
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,849
So Asda was, was owned by Walmart.

544
00:26:54,879 --> 00:26:56,710
I don't know if it still
is, but it was at one point.

545
00:26:56,900 --> 00:26:59,920
But I have seen that ad for
literally just last week, didn't I?

546
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:00,719
Yeah.

547
00:27:01,190 --> 00:27:02,440
They were killing each other.

548
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,646
I was like, get a room!

549
00:27:04,646 --> 00:27:06,485
I was happy for them.

550
00:27:06,485 --> 00:27:08,324
I was happy for them.

551
00:27:08,324 --> 00:27:09,059
Yeah, yeah.

552
00:27:09,439 --> 00:27:12,080
That's why I didn't want
to come off too harsh.

553
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:18,400
It's like, no, I love couples that have
been together for 10, 15, 20, 30, 40

554
00:27:18,410 --> 00:27:25,090
years that just are still so passionately,
and they saw that physical, like, draw

555
00:27:25,140 --> 00:27:28,459
to each other where they want to be
touching and they want to be kissing.

556
00:27:28,459 --> 00:27:28,980
It's so cute.

557
00:27:29,199 --> 00:27:31,324
Like, you've seen all Old
couple kissing in public.

558
00:27:31,324 --> 00:27:33,345
I'm just like, Oh, That's so cute.

559
00:27:33,395 --> 00:27:33,814
Oh my gosh.

560
00:27:33,885 --> 00:27:34,584
My favorite.

561
00:27:34,675 --> 00:27:35,054
Yeah.

562
00:27:35,054 --> 00:27:35,284
Yeah.

563
00:27:35,284 --> 00:27:36,605
You've got an image of that.

564
00:27:36,635 --> 00:27:37,865
It's my favorite.

565
00:27:37,895 --> 00:27:38,064
Literally.

566
00:27:38,074 --> 00:27:41,625
I have, I have a picture of an old couple
on the planet for such a long time.

567
00:27:41,625 --> 00:27:46,095
They're both wearing yellow American
apparel and I'm just like, Oh, I'm,

568
00:27:46,405 --> 00:27:48,294
I'm always looking at couples though.

569
00:27:48,375 --> 00:27:48,695
Right.

570
00:27:48,695 --> 00:27:48,915
Yeah.

571
00:27:49,254 --> 00:27:50,655
I, I look at, I just laugh.

572
00:27:50,815 --> 00:27:52,355
Uh, it's, it makes me smile.

573
00:27:52,365 --> 00:27:57,814
I was like, I hope that I am still
that passionate in my marriage.

574
00:27:58,344 --> 00:27:58,644
Yeah.

575
00:27:58,675 --> 00:28:00,004
That many years down the road.

576
00:28:01,110 --> 00:28:03,780
I look at that as something like, that's,
that's, that's a goal right there.

577
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:09,490
Work towards, I want you to always look
at my spouse and be like, yeah, baby.

578
00:28:10,959 --> 00:28:11,889
I married her.

579
00:28:14,115 --> 00:28:14,575
I feel like I'm worse.

580
00:28:16,735 --> 00:28:17,625
Yeah, I get it.

581
00:28:17,985 --> 00:28:19,075
I totally get it.

582
00:28:19,925 --> 00:28:24,545
No, it's just You need to really
develop yourself consistently because

583
00:28:24,545 --> 00:28:27,845
I feel like when you're consistently
developing yourself, and we've heard

584
00:28:27,845 --> 00:28:32,014
you talk on your previous episodes
about the importance of, and I remember

585
00:28:32,015 --> 00:28:36,255
even you talking about that, it's
like, if you're improving yourself,

586
00:28:36,255 --> 00:28:38,484
developing yourself consistently Yeah.

587
00:28:38,635 --> 00:28:42,405
Then naturally that, that essence of
attraction is always going to be present

588
00:28:42,405 --> 00:28:44,865
where you're going to be looking at
each other and thinking, Oh my goodness,

589
00:28:44,865 --> 00:28:49,135
like, wow, I made it big because this
individual is committed to their self

590
00:28:49,135 --> 00:28:54,895
growth is committed to the expanding
and becoming more refined, if you will.

591
00:28:56,364 --> 00:28:56,624
Yeah.

592
00:28:56,804 --> 00:28:57,094
Yeah.

593
00:28:57,775 --> 00:29:01,191
It's, uh, it's crazy is right.

594
00:29:01,191 --> 00:29:04,142
People don't understand
relationships or work.

595
00:29:04,142 --> 00:29:09,865
It's a choosing every single
day to put in the effort.

596
00:29:10,429 --> 00:29:17,179
And the intention and the lapse, I, I, I'd
say, I, I'd say in the gym firm, right,

597
00:29:17,179 --> 00:29:18,580
it's, it's, it's putting in the reps.

598
00:29:19,129 --> 00:29:19,370
Yes.

599
00:29:19,820 --> 00:29:20,439
Every single day.

600
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:21,639
Yep.

601
00:29:21,649 --> 00:29:23,320
I get that reference.

602
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,850
Yeah, we, we always refer
to it as a practice.

603
00:29:25,889 --> 00:29:28,909
Our sacred union at 1
percent Love is a practice.

604
00:29:28,909 --> 00:29:29,359
Yeah.

605
00:29:29,419 --> 00:29:31,169
You're consistently practicing.

606
00:29:31,169 --> 00:29:33,229
You're never the finished
or definite article.

607
00:29:33,610 --> 00:29:37,029
Every new day or new week or new month
or new year brings a new challenge

608
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:42,329
or a new mountain to, to ascend to
or mountain summit to ascend to.

609
00:29:42,330 --> 00:29:42,423
Yep.

610
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,200
And you're practicing that you're
improving your, your muscle

611
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,870
memory and all these other things.

612
00:29:47,940 --> 00:29:50,860
And it's, and that's, and that's
the space we talk about, especially

613
00:29:51,030 --> 00:29:53,350
with people that intimacy is built.

614
00:29:53,820 --> 00:29:57,860
So sometimes people think of intimacy
is like sexual, but the intimacy,

615
00:29:57,860 --> 00:30:02,639
there's safe, there's, um, the
intimacy of safety of saying or

616
00:30:02,749 --> 00:30:04,069
sharing something with your partner.

617
00:30:04,695 --> 00:30:09,075
with your lover, as we refer to everybody,
and having them actually hear you,

618
00:30:09,115 --> 00:30:13,605
actively listen to you, and then the
intimacy of being a good receiver,

619
00:30:13,635 --> 00:30:15,565
a good recipient of the information.

620
00:30:15,954 --> 00:30:19,614
Now, that's something we're still
practicing, but once it clicked, it's

621
00:30:19,614 --> 00:30:24,955
like, oh, if I can feel safe to share
in my sacred union, and if I can

622
00:30:24,955 --> 00:30:29,985
practice receiving what's been told to
me, then we win, then we, I feel safe.

623
00:30:30,025 --> 00:30:31,245
That's so intimate.

624
00:30:31,334 --> 00:30:34,855
It just, it raises the, the
vibration between the both of you.

625
00:30:35,545 --> 00:30:37,475
And there's just something
so beautiful about that.

626
00:30:37,475 --> 00:30:42,005
And of course it manifests itself in the
bedroom or wherever else, but intimacy,

627
00:30:42,005 --> 00:30:47,085
there are so many little areas in which
you build it up every single day, like not

628
00:30:47,085 --> 00:30:52,274
reacting, you know, badly when you hear
something that your partner shared that's

629
00:30:52,284 --> 00:30:56,334
hard for them to share that may have, you
know, in everyday societal circumstances

630
00:30:56,474 --> 00:30:58,224
may have been like really hard.

631
00:30:58,635 --> 00:31:02,545
And sitting and just, and listening
and be a, and a good steward and a

632
00:31:02,545 --> 00:31:04,145
good house for what's being shed.

633
00:31:04,905 --> 00:31:08,545
Once we got that, you know, whilst
we were cultivating what we have now,

634
00:31:08,904 --> 00:31:13,954
it was like, Oh, okay, I feel safer
now, so I want to give more of myself.

635
00:31:14,864 --> 00:31:17,645
So that's where the intimacy is
built in those little moments.

636
00:31:19,445 --> 00:31:21,975
Now you guys use the term sacred unions.

637
00:31:23,515 --> 00:31:27,815
Let's, uh, let's dig into what do
you mean when you say sacred unions?

638
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:35,020
In a nutshell, the reason why we
distinguish a sacred union of 1 percent

639
00:31:35,020 --> 00:31:40,230
love from standardized phrasing of
relationship or relationships is because

640
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:47,475
we've ascertained through our experience
that it is It takes something more than

641
00:31:47,475 --> 00:31:48,825
just saying you're in a relationship.

642
00:31:48,865 --> 00:31:50,285
It takes more than that.

643
00:31:50,315 --> 00:31:53,445
It takes having a vision for each other.

644
00:31:53,485 --> 00:31:56,234
It takes having a vision for your union.

645
00:31:56,235 --> 00:32:02,104
It takes you being able to identify what
you're both committed to and then choosing

646
00:32:02,365 --> 00:32:05,185
to ultimately aim to have it all together.

647
00:32:05,235 --> 00:32:07,985
That's all the intimacy, the
connection, the adventure, the fun.

648
00:32:08,335 --> 00:32:12,624
And consistently go, almost create
this framework where you're going

649
00:32:12,634 --> 00:32:16,720
around Seasonally in the cycle of
experimentation where you're seeing

650
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,270
what you want next in your sacred
union You're seeing what you want to

651
00:32:21,270 --> 00:32:24,650
experience You've created as Annabelle
said that vulnerable safe space where

652
00:32:24,650 --> 00:32:30,000
you can share your your most intimate
dreams and fantasies and stuff and the

653
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:34,330
reason why we call it a sacred union of
1 percent love because That takes a level

654
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:37,500
of intention that on a standard level.

655
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,460
We don't see generally in relationships
there's a lot of in a lot of cases

656
00:32:42,460 --> 00:32:48,280
a lot of nonchalance and negligence
that come from simply saying, right,

657
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,439
we're in a relationship, or I'm in a
relationship, but in distinguishing it

658
00:32:52,460 --> 00:32:56,720
as a sacred union of 1 percent love,
we almost have to rise to the occasion.

659
00:32:57,269 --> 00:32:59,329
We have to say, well, we said that.

660
00:32:59,725 --> 00:33:04,215
Sacred unions of 1 percent love
are defined by this, this, this.

661
00:33:04,815 --> 00:33:07,405
We, as a characteristic,
say we want to have it all.

662
00:33:07,435 --> 00:33:10,035
We say we can have it all,
and therefore, we've got to

663
00:33:10,045 --> 00:33:11,565
be something distinct as well.

664
00:33:11,585 --> 00:33:15,795
Yeah, and just even having the word
sacred in there, this is not regular.

665
00:33:15,795 --> 00:33:20,864
This is something has to be
protected from the outside.

666
00:33:20,864 --> 00:33:25,055
The world may be going on out there with
all its kind of, you know, lions and

667
00:33:25,065 --> 00:33:27,845
tigers and bears, but inside here is safe.

668
00:33:27,864 --> 00:33:30,095
Inside here is exactly as we build it.

669
00:33:30,575 --> 00:33:34,745
And we built it for our elevation,
for our safety, for our intimacy,

670
00:33:34,745 --> 00:33:36,535
and it is a sacred space.

671
00:33:36,615 --> 00:33:36,945
Yeah.

672
00:33:36,995 --> 00:33:40,825
There's never anything from the
outside in we'd allow to disrupt what

673
00:33:40,825 --> 00:33:44,505
we've built inside the sacredness
of the, of the relationship.

674
00:33:44,515 --> 00:33:46,445
So that's why we refer
to it as a sacred union.

675
00:33:46,594 --> 00:33:50,795
And also, I'm really passionate
about and, uh, a fan of etymology.

676
00:33:50,915 --> 00:33:53,335
And looking at the root, and
etymology is the study of the

677
00:33:53,335 --> 00:33:54,535
history and origin of words.

678
00:33:54,535 --> 00:33:58,670
And looking at The word sacred,
it has the same root as sacrifice.

679
00:33:58,990 --> 00:34:04,120
And there's a level of sacrifice, and
it's not, uh, an undesirable sacrifice.

680
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,049
It's actually a joyous
sacrifice that we're making.

681
00:34:07,060 --> 00:34:11,139
We're making this sacrifice to, as you
put it in one of your previous episodes,

682
00:34:11,290 --> 00:34:15,960
humbling ourselves, being humble
enough to say, I don't know it all.

683
00:34:16,450 --> 00:34:20,140
I can learn something from my lover.

684
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:25,580
In fact, my lover, in fact, I've said
this many times, this Union is the

685
00:34:25,580 --> 00:34:31,590
greatest self developmental project
that we can work on because it, I've

686
00:34:31,590 --> 00:34:36,010
got eyes and ears from someone who loves
me in the same way that I love myself.

687
00:34:36,029 --> 00:34:40,270
I've got eyes and ears on me that enable
me to keep on expanding as a being.

688
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,140
So there's a sacrifice that comes
with the sacredness as well.

689
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:50,090
Are all of you listening sold
that these two like each other?

690
00:34:55,020 --> 00:34:55,910
Have we made the point?

691
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,800
Have you gotten it?

692
00:34:57,495 --> 00:35:03,015
Uh, I, I laughed so hard when I was
doing the research and the prep for the

693
00:35:03,015 --> 00:35:08,115
show after we started emailing back and
forth and I was looking at your website

694
00:35:08,115 --> 00:35:12,415
and uh, enjoying what you had there
and looking at the way you guys define

695
00:35:12,434 --> 00:35:17,034
things and the way you talked about that
1 percent love where it's just like, you

696
00:35:17,034 --> 00:35:21,045
know, so obvious you look at the couple
and you're just like, wow, whatever

697
00:35:21,045 --> 00:35:22,925
they've, they've figured something out.

698
00:35:23,025 --> 00:35:23,285
Right.

699
00:35:23,285 --> 00:35:27,360
They, they just, They, they, I
don't know what it is, but they

700
00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:29,360
figured something out and I love it.

701
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:29,670
Right.

702
00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:31,590
I want that in my relationship.

703
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,680
And I was, I was reading through all that.

704
00:35:34,690 --> 00:35:40,730
I was like, okay, that sounds good
on the website, blah, blah, blah.

705
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:44,999
But now just talking to you
guys for the last little while.

706
00:35:45,010 --> 00:35:46,680
I was like, okay, I get it now.

707
00:35:49,460 --> 00:35:54,220
They, they really are like, they're
together on this in so many ways.

708
00:35:55,260 --> 00:35:59,500
And that that intimacy of y'all's
relationship comes through when you are

709
00:35:59,620 --> 00:36:05,590
like talking together on the show and
relating the way you are in tune with

710
00:36:05,590 --> 00:36:07,100
each other and sync with each other.

711
00:36:07,549 --> 00:36:10,499
It really shows through now.

712
00:36:11,769 --> 00:36:12,890
Here's some of the guys listening.

713
00:36:12,890 --> 00:36:13,469
They may be like.

714
00:36:14,670 --> 00:36:15,050
Right?

715
00:36:15,050 --> 00:36:15,290
Yeah.

716
00:36:15,290 --> 00:36:15,580
This is

717
00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:24,180
and that's the truth of it.

718
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,299
That's the truth of it.

719
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,870
I love you guys are talking about that.

720
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,989
The choosing intimacy, the little, the
little choices that you choose, right?

721
00:36:32,999 --> 00:36:37,820
The, the secrets, the conversations, the,
the holding space for each other to be

722
00:36:37,820 --> 00:36:42,150
able to say something and not react badly.

723
00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:42,320
Right?

724
00:36:42,635 --> 00:36:46,405
There are so many little pieces
that are so critical to a

725
00:36:46,405 --> 00:36:48,215
really healthy relationship.

726
00:36:48,585 --> 00:36:51,965
And I love listening to you guys
talking about it because you're you're

727
00:36:52,015 --> 00:36:57,285
hitting all those marks going yes yet
and it's like we don't we don't sell

728
00:36:57,285 --> 00:37:01,444
that right you that doesn't sell in
Hollywood that doesn't sell on shows

729
00:37:01,444 --> 00:37:06,195
right I I have two daughters so I watch
a lot of Disney movies I'm watching

730
00:37:06,195 --> 00:37:11,430
less these days because Disney is doing
some weird crap but Yes, it is indeed.

731
00:37:11,940 --> 00:37:16,200
Uh, but one of the things, Frozen
cracked me up, like, Frozen made

732
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,750
me laugh out loud, actually.

733
00:37:17,830 --> 00:37:19,179
Mm hmm.

734
00:37:19,179 --> 00:37:23,240
Because Elsa comes to Anna and
is like, We're getting married!

735
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:25,210
She's like, You just met him!

736
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,350
I love that!

737
00:37:26,350 --> 00:37:28,749
I love that narrative in there.

738
00:37:29,690 --> 00:37:34,180
I, I actually, like, literally
laughed out loud, because Disney

739
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,280
finally said the quiet part that
every adult has been saying for years.

740
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,545
It's like, You've known each
other for like two minutes.

741
00:37:43,195 --> 00:37:43,575
Literally.

742
00:37:43,745 --> 00:37:44,815
Y'all never had any conversation.

743
00:37:45,245 --> 00:37:47,725
Uh, well, Prince Charming and Snow White.

744
00:37:49,535 --> 00:37:53,607
He kisses a dead chick in a coffin and
they go off and live happily ever after.

745
00:37:53,607 --> 00:37:55,682
It's like, this is what's happening.

746
00:37:55,682 --> 00:37:57,410
But you know what, Brent?

747
00:37:57,410 --> 00:37:58,447
You've hit something.

748
00:37:58,447 --> 00:38:04,055
You've hit, you've hit on something
really important that this is the

749
00:38:04,055 --> 00:38:07,695
reason why, or at least partially
the reason, programming wise.

750
00:38:08,275 --> 00:38:11,105
It's part, it's partially the
reason why so many relationships

751
00:38:11,105 --> 00:38:12,175
break up prematurely.

752
00:38:12,915 --> 00:38:17,545
Now this is not saying that every
single partnership that, that is

753
00:38:17,545 --> 00:38:19,755
established is meant to last forever.

754
00:38:20,265 --> 00:38:23,934
But most folks are jumping off the
wagon way too early because they

755
00:38:23,935 --> 00:38:26,014
think, Oh, it didn't, it didn't happen.

756
00:38:26,074 --> 00:38:28,044
The happily ever after
thing didn't happen.

757
00:38:28,055 --> 00:38:29,854
Why is it that we've fallen out of love?

758
00:38:30,295 --> 00:38:31,325
It's because it's work.

759
00:38:32,065 --> 00:38:34,164
And it's self work.

760
00:38:34,165 --> 00:38:35,415
Self work indeed.

761
00:38:35,475 --> 00:38:39,454
What we always say is that we are
also the love of our own lives.

762
00:38:39,835 --> 00:38:43,555
Like, there are, and especially
to anyone who's listening who's

763
00:38:43,575 --> 00:38:45,744
single, it's like would you date you?

764
00:38:45,754 --> 00:38:47,314
Would you want to go
the distance with you?

765
00:38:47,314 --> 00:38:51,275
Do you know that you're, you know,
there's so much that's untapped in you.

766
00:38:51,745 --> 00:38:56,145
That relationship with you have with
yourself is the same self you're

767
00:38:56,145 --> 00:38:59,795
going to give to your friends, your
family, your co workers, your children.

768
00:39:00,365 --> 00:39:03,995
It's the same, so you have to keep pouring
into yourself so you're able to give.

769
00:39:04,015 --> 00:39:05,865
You can't give away what you don't have.

770
00:39:06,605 --> 00:39:10,725
So that whole thing of like, I don't,
we don't really subscribe to looking

771
00:39:10,725 --> 00:39:12,465
for the other half and now I'm complete.

772
00:39:12,475 --> 00:39:16,425
It's like, You're taking your both your
separate worlds and you're choosing

773
00:39:16,425 --> 00:39:21,505
to have them alongside each other and
that sometimes doesn't look pretty Like

774
00:39:21,545 --> 00:39:26,835
in year 10 we went through it We were
passing ships in the night in the same

775
00:39:26,855 --> 00:39:32,746
house and that thing of being able to
blame the other over and over again

776
00:39:32,746 --> 00:39:37,935
without first looking inside and saying
Where am I actually contributing to this?

777
00:39:37,975 --> 00:39:40,955
Have I got any limited beliefs
that I keep subconsciously bringing

778
00:39:41,395 --> 00:39:45,205
into my union that's actually
like tripping both of us up?

779
00:39:45,875 --> 00:39:47,625
It's such, that's the work.

780
00:39:48,215 --> 00:39:50,865
So, and you know, we can laugh
and joke now but you know,

781
00:39:50,865 --> 00:39:52,405
year 10 was rough for us.

782
00:39:52,465 --> 00:39:54,445
We literally almost called it a day.

783
00:39:54,864 --> 00:39:57,234
But when we realised that we loved each
other and that we were going to have

784
00:39:57,235 --> 00:40:01,705
to do work we had to figure anything
we'd ever heard or we'd ever seen.

785
00:40:02,085 --> 00:40:05,705
And also I mean, I can speak for
myself and I think I can speak for

786
00:40:05,705 --> 00:40:09,515
you when I say this maybe that we also
had to see each other with new eyes.

787
00:40:09,835 --> 00:40:15,475
We had to see that we are not the 18,
19 year olds that we got together as.

788
00:40:15,974 --> 00:40:16,725
This is a woman.

789
00:40:16,755 --> 00:40:18,565
The woman that I'm looking at is a woman.

790
00:40:18,565 --> 00:40:20,165
She's a mother of two.

791
00:40:20,195 --> 00:40:22,005
She has big dreams.

792
00:40:22,014 --> 00:40:22,924
She's creative.

793
00:40:22,924 --> 00:40:23,694
She's intelligent.

794
00:40:23,904 --> 00:40:24,874
She's intuitive.

795
00:40:25,485 --> 00:40:29,215
I need to start looking at her from
the perspective of this womanhood

796
00:40:29,255 --> 00:40:34,685
now and yeah, and that really helped
me to see her in, in a light where

797
00:40:34,725 --> 00:40:37,415
I wanted to be the best man for her.

798
00:40:37,794 --> 00:40:39,804
I didn't want to coast in
any way, shape or form.

799
00:40:39,825 --> 00:40:43,764
And obviously going back to what you
were saying, maybe about being the best.

800
00:40:44,055 --> 00:40:44,625
for yourself.

801
00:40:44,625 --> 00:40:47,425
And I think I've heard you say this
as well, Brett, in previous episodes.

802
00:40:47,425 --> 00:40:50,805
It's about being the very best
version of yourself for yourself,

803
00:40:51,005 --> 00:40:52,875
because you love yourself that much.

804
00:40:53,274 --> 00:40:55,614
And that will certainly spill
out into your sacred duty.

805
00:40:57,755 --> 00:40:58,104
I love it.

806
00:40:58,545 --> 00:41:00,135
Guys, we've been
discussing 1 percent love.

807
00:41:00,145 --> 00:41:00,744
What is it?

808
00:41:00,775 --> 00:41:03,025
What does a successful
relationship look like?

809
00:41:03,334 --> 00:41:06,305
You know what we even delved into
some extra here and just had some

810
00:41:06,305 --> 00:41:07,615
really kind of conversation about.

811
00:41:08,175 --> 00:41:11,795
There's a lot of work in
a successful relationship.

812
00:41:11,815 --> 00:41:13,215
That's what it looks like.

813
00:41:14,185 --> 00:41:16,365
Uh, and I love the vulnerability of that.

814
00:41:16,435 --> 00:41:18,185
You know, in year 10, it was struggles.

815
00:41:18,875 --> 00:41:23,084
Every couple I know who's made any
distance in their marriage will say

816
00:41:23,085 --> 00:41:29,084
there's a, there's a season or multiple
seasons where it's like, wow, I don't

817
00:41:29,084 --> 00:41:30,995
know if we're gonna make this, right?

818
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,370
So in the next part of the show, we're
going to dive into how to build more

819
00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:37,330
intimate relationships with your partner.

820
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839
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All right, guys, welcome back.

840
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,550
In the last part of the show, we
were discussing 1 percent love.

841
00:42:27,550 --> 00:42:28,000
What is it?

842
00:42:28,010 --> 00:42:30,040
What is a successful, successful?

843
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,310
I just can't say that word today.

844
00:42:31,610 --> 00:42:34,700
Relationship actually really
look like, what does it entail?

845
00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:37,109
How does it work in this part of the show?

846
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:40,650
We're going to dive into how you can
build a more intimate relationship

847
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,424
with your partner, your spouse,
whatever term you want to use.

848
00:42:44,395 --> 00:42:50,065
How can you build that real intimacy that
helps your love stay in the test of time?

849
00:42:50,985 --> 00:42:53,765
And we, we touched on
this a little bit, right?

850
00:42:53,765 --> 00:42:57,915
We've been talking about the realistic
way that relationships work, but

851
00:42:57,915 --> 00:42:59,465
we have men listening right now.

852
00:43:00,245 --> 00:43:02,724
And some women, I do have
some women listeners.

853
00:43:03,064 --> 00:43:03,924
Uh, thanks ladies.

854
00:43:03,925 --> 00:43:04,684
I appreciate that.

855
00:43:05,444 --> 00:43:08,495
I like to look at my demographics
and go, Hey, look, a couple of

856
00:43:08,505 --> 00:43:09,815
women actually do listen to me.

857
00:43:11,930 --> 00:43:16,550
But we have people listening right
now and they're looking at their own

858
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:22,270
relationships going I'm in a good
spot, but I want to be in a better

859
00:43:22,270 --> 00:43:28,570
spot because my relationship matters
or my relationship is Struggling right?

860
00:43:28,570 --> 00:43:30,199
We're going through that difficult season.

861
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:37,490
And so I really want to dig into You
guys suggestions on building that

862
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:42,210
intimacy and you, you talked about, uh,
Annabelle, multiple levels of intimacy.

863
00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:45,030
And I think a lot of times we get lost.

864
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:46,490
We hear that term intimacy.

865
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,550
And the first thing that
comes to mind is sex.

866
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:54,209
And honestly, sex is one form of intimacy,
but there are so many forms of intimacy.

867
00:43:54,210 --> 00:43:55,350
So I'm glad you said that.

868
00:43:56,425 --> 00:44:00,455
That contribute to that part
of the relationship as well.

869
00:44:00,865 --> 00:44:05,135
How do we build that intimacy that
really connects us with our partner?

870
00:44:06,595 --> 00:44:09,875
Well, and that's such a, I'm
so excited by this question.

871
00:44:10,275 --> 00:44:11,135
So if I can cost.

872
00:44:11,790 --> 00:44:14,440
yourself, the listeners,
back to year 10 for us.

873
00:44:15,140 --> 00:44:19,070
What we had to do after we realized
that we were in a really rubbish,

874
00:44:19,110 --> 00:44:23,930
and we're gonna use clean English,
rubbish space, was then look at,

875
00:44:23,930 --> 00:44:27,710
okay, what does our rela What do we
want our relationship to look like?

876
00:44:28,339 --> 00:44:32,410
So, previously, our relationship
had consisted of the expectations of

877
00:44:32,430 --> 00:44:36,720
society, the expectations of family, what
we'd seen in the films, as we'd said.

878
00:44:37,550 --> 00:44:41,860
And we had one of the most freeing
conversations we'd ever had.

879
00:44:42,515 --> 00:44:47,495
and I sat and I listened to this man
share what he thought the relationship

880
00:44:47,905 --> 00:44:51,444
would look like for him to enjoy it,
for him to feel like it was grubbing,

881
00:44:51,735 --> 00:44:53,424
and I was given the room to do the same.

882
00:44:53,955 --> 00:44:56,735
And then we literally began
painting by numbers in various

883
00:44:56,775 --> 00:45:02,615
areas, career wise, personally,
as parents, as, you know, spouses.

884
00:45:03,235 --> 00:45:04,995
We broke everything down.

885
00:45:05,435 --> 00:45:09,224
Because what happens is, when a
relationship's broken down, those little

886
00:45:10,015 --> 00:45:15,075
Those little spaces that we spoke about as
the intimacy of, you know, communication,

887
00:45:15,105 --> 00:45:20,444
of sex, of, you know, wellness, all
of those places had been neglected.

888
00:45:20,695 --> 00:45:22,495
So what happens if you neglect something?

889
00:45:22,765 --> 00:45:27,565
Garden, gym, workout, everything starts
to soften and just slowly break down.

890
00:45:28,345 --> 00:45:31,975
So we had a conversation about what
our relationship would look like at

891
00:45:31,985 --> 00:45:33,975
its best, at its most functional.

892
00:45:34,415 --> 00:45:36,564
What places in the world
do we want to go and visit?

893
00:45:37,035 --> 00:45:38,855
You know, what foods did we want to try?

894
00:45:39,115 --> 00:45:40,755
How did we want to be spoken to?

895
00:45:40,755 --> 00:45:41,825
How did we want to dress?

896
00:45:41,875 --> 00:45:45,555
We broke everything down,
because everything was a mess.

897
00:45:46,375 --> 00:45:50,634
And from there, it became
work, and then it became fun.

898
00:45:51,415 --> 00:45:55,865
And we practiced, again, that practice
of like, okay, well, I want to try this.

899
00:45:56,385 --> 00:46:00,615
And it was listening and watching
my lover fill up and light

900
00:46:00,745 --> 00:46:02,345
up at what he wanted to do.

901
00:46:03,075 --> 00:46:06,785
And that, that's literally carrying us
through, it's carried us through beyond,

902
00:46:06,855 --> 00:46:10,915
you know, this extra 10 years we've
had, which has taken us up to 20 years.

903
00:46:11,465 --> 00:46:18,014
And the intimacy from that, that
vulnerable space that we had, I mean, I

904
00:46:18,014 --> 00:46:21,724
always say, we got here through blood,
sweat, and tears, quite literally.

905
00:46:21,725 --> 00:46:27,685
Um, and it was having that, and it's, and,
you know, every season, one thing we say

906
00:46:27,685 --> 00:46:32,064
in 1 percent Love is with every season
of yourself, take your love with you.

907
00:46:32,970 --> 00:46:37,440
And what that means is, in this season,
things might be really hard financially.

908
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,220
In this season, things might
be really hard mentally.

909
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,719
And what happens is our lover
ends up loving the last version

910
00:46:45,730 --> 00:46:46,989
of ourselves, the last iOS.

911
00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:51,920
And then they say things like, Oh,
you're not the person I used to know.

912
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,310
You know, I don't love you anymore
because you're not this person.

913
00:46:56,510 --> 00:46:59,410
And it's sometimes going,
well, who is in front of me?

914
00:46:59,470 --> 00:47:01,120
And how did this person get here?

915
00:47:01,855 --> 00:47:04,445
And it's consolidating
who you are and why.

916
00:47:04,805 --> 00:47:05,815
And they're going, okay, cool.

917
00:47:05,925 --> 00:47:08,235
Now I know who you are, let's
go into this next season.

918
00:47:08,995 --> 00:47:13,355
Rather than dragging this person that
they're not anymore through the marriage,

919
00:47:13,375 --> 00:47:17,545
calling it a marriage because you live
together or you share a friendship circle.

920
00:47:17,595 --> 00:47:18,595
No, that's not it.

921
00:47:19,234 --> 00:47:21,335
You've got to consolidate who they are.

922
00:47:21,625 --> 00:47:25,385
There may have been things that each of
you have experienced which have hardened

923
00:47:25,385 --> 00:47:26,655
your heart or softened your heart.

924
00:47:27,235 --> 00:47:31,565
And you need to be able to One, feel
safe enough to share that, and two, be

925
00:47:31,565 --> 00:47:36,105
brave enough to walk through the next
season now knowing who this person is.

926
00:47:37,275 --> 00:47:43,875
So that's another thing that's
really pivotal in having a sacred

927
00:47:43,875 --> 00:47:48,734
union that is strong and built, and
it's a practice of those things.

928
00:47:48,745 --> 00:47:49,494
It's like a thing.

929
00:47:49,925 --> 00:47:51,395
I'm not this person anymore.

930
00:47:51,485 --> 00:47:52,970
My lover is not this person anymore.

931
00:47:52,970 --> 00:47:53,915
They're this person.

932
00:47:54,515 --> 00:47:55,365
And adding to that.

933
00:47:56,095 --> 00:47:59,295
And I would say, Brent, just to add
on to what Annabelle said, and you

934
00:47:59,295 --> 00:48:04,595
said that beautifully, baby, it was so
expansive, is this, that the, there's

935
00:48:04,595 --> 00:48:08,295
a real important emphasis on self work.

936
00:48:09,195 --> 00:48:10,605
We can't stress that enough.

937
00:48:11,435 --> 00:48:15,645
If one of you, and we talk in our
Sacred Union Secrets, the first

938
00:48:15,645 --> 00:48:17,735
Sacred Union Secret is foundation.

939
00:48:18,085 --> 00:48:22,545
It's about building or rebuilding
a blueprint, building or rebuilding

940
00:48:22,545 --> 00:48:24,265
a foundation in your relationship.

941
00:48:24,644 --> 00:48:27,315
So that goes back, you're going
back to the drawing board and

942
00:48:27,315 --> 00:48:29,485
you're identifying your values.

943
00:48:29,875 --> 00:48:32,784
You're identifying your needs and your
desires and you're being clear on what

944
00:48:32,804 --> 00:48:38,095
you're committed to based on those,
those, the conclusions you've come to.

945
00:48:38,715 --> 00:48:44,620
But the emphasis on self work can never
be over emphasized because if one of you,

946
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,730
particularly as a core value base, is
committed to growing, is committed to,

947
00:48:49,820 --> 00:48:54,839
has a growth mindset, and is consistently
looking at the next way they can improve

948
00:48:54,839 --> 00:48:58,629
themselves, but the other one has
more of a fixed mindset and feels like

949
00:48:58,839 --> 00:49:02,910
they've learned everything they need to
know, they are the way they are, they

950
00:49:03,180 --> 00:49:08,680
are, their, their mental or emotional
constitution is the way it is, they can't.

951
00:49:09,285 --> 00:49:11,625
affect it, can't transform it in any way.

952
00:49:12,205 --> 00:49:16,805
You're fighting a losing battle, so
I would say as a starting point, you

953
00:49:16,815 --> 00:49:20,225
have to both be committed to self work.

954
00:49:20,255 --> 00:49:25,034
If you're to get the type of love we're
talking about, if you just want the run

955
00:49:25,035 --> 00:49:30,524
of the mill relationship that, you know,
is kind, it's all right, it's decent,

956
00:49:31,354 --> 00:49:32,544
that's not what we're talking about.

957
00:49:32,544 --> 00:49:36,235
What we're talking about is at
every point, you're able to reinvent

958
00:49:36,235 --> 00:49:41,420
yourself and your sacred union so
that You have levels of intimacy

959
00:49:41,420 --> 00:49:44,410
that you didn't have in the season
before or the season before that.

960
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,529
You're able to face every breaking
point and every breakdown and

961
00:49:48,530 --> 00:49:49,610
say there's something in this.

962
00:49:49,610 --> 00:49:54,739
There's a breakthrough on the other
side of this and there could only

963
00:49:54,739 --> 00:49:58,339
actually be a breakthrough with
this breakdown and breaking point.

964
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:03,640
So let's work together on the same team
in order to get to the breakthrough.

965
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,410
And in fact, that's one of our mantras,
our mantra, which has served us so well

966
00:50:07,420 --> 00:50:09,180
over the last 12 years of being married.

967
00:50:09,705 --> 00:50:12,845
Is I love you and we're on the same team.

968
00:50:12,855 --> 00:50:14,145
We say that regularly.

969
00:50:14,145 --> 00:50:17,185
We have said that regularly over
the years and we've actually

970
00:50:17,185 --> 00:50:19,105
created a formula out of that.

971
00:50:19,795 --> 00:50:23,375
So yeah, but a formula
beyond that, which is.

972
00:50:24,050 --> 00:50:27,090
Yeah, just something that we
go deeper with on that point.

973
00:50:27,150 --> 00:50:29,890
But I love you, and
we're on the same team.

974
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,970
We're, look, we're, we've
got the same vision.

975
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,190
We are in this together.

976
00:50:35,769 --> 00:50:38,540
In spite of the way it feels right
now, let's say, hypothetically,

977
00:50:38,540 --> 00:50:39,669
you're having a breakdown.

978
00:50:40,439 --> 00:50:41,689
You are at breaking point.

979
00:50:42,020 --> 00:50:44,409
All right, this feels
terrible at the moment.

980
00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:45,739
It feels horrible.

981
00:50:45,949 --> 00:50:47,489
I hate what I'm feeling right now.

982
00:50:47,490 --> 00:50:54,309
I know that there's a mutual commitment to
seeing what's on the other side of this.

983
00:50:54,665 --> 00:50:58,345
That can only really come from
a self work centered place when

984
00:50:58,345 --> 00:51:00,085
you're both about this self work.

985
00:51:00,085 --> 00:51:02,645
So, I would say that in addition
to what Annabelle said as well.

986
00:51:04,594 --> 00:51:10,424
What do you guys tell your
clients to avoid, right?

987
00:51:10,424 --> 00:51:14,215
As much as we have the
list of do's, right?

988
00:51:14,235 --> 00:51:16,835
Things that are essential to
building that relationship.

989
00:51:18,244 --> 00:51:19,605
You guys work with couples.

990
00:51:20,685 --> 00:51:25,695
What are the essential don'ts that you see
that are just dragging relationships down?

991
00:51:27,175 --> 00:51:31,530
That's such an interesting one
because The couples we tend to work

992
00:51:31,530 --> 00:51:32,850
with are ones that are willing.

993
00:51:33,220 --> 00:51:36,930
They, they tend to be couples that,
they know that everything's a mess,

994
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:42,150
but they're willing to do something
that they, that is not obvious to them.

995
00:51:43,269 --> 00:51:47,820
So what we try to do is
avoid blaming each other.

996
00:51:48,730 --> 00:51:53,790
We emphasize a lot on looking at
what the problem is and how both

997
00:51:53,790 --> 00:51:55,470
parties are contributing to that.

998
00:51:56,110 --> 00:52:00,470
Even if it's a 70 30 thing, because we
have to deal with what's in front of us.

999
00:52:02,310 --> 00:52:05,920
So there, I guess in that way,
there are more leaning towards

1000
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:06,970
the do's than the don'ts.

1001
00:52:07,610 --> 00:52:13,910
But equally, you touched on a great point
there, baby, that don't look at them as

1002
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:16,330
if they're the contri contributing party.

1003
00:52:17,050 --> 00:52:19,349
Obviously there are
exceptions to the rule.

1004
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,510
where you do have some real imbalances
in relationships, where there are

1005
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,140
abusive relationships and stuff.

1006
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,350
We're not talking about that.

1007
00:52:26,590 --> 00:52:32,520
As a gen on a general base of scale,
most folks on most relationships

1008
00:52:32,609 --> 00:52:34,559
have two contributing parties.

1009
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,690
Which are affecting the way the
relationship's going so the first

1010
00:52:38,690 --> 00:52:43,080
thing that we would say don't do is
don't point the finger at them As if

1011
00:52:43,090 --> 00:52:47,110
you haven't contributed to this you've
contributed just as much if not more

1012
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:52,709
In fact, I like to say this and that
we live in a realm in our universe

1013
00:52:52,709 --> 00:52:54,410
of paradox and polarity, right?

1014
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,600
So this isn't an absolute statement, but
statement, but I like to say this I've

1015
00:52:58,910 --> 00:53:03,440
I'm the reason why my relationships like
this Good or bad, I am the reason why.

1016
00:53:03,940 --> 00:53:08,410
And I like taking that stance
because it, it, it keeps me powerful.

1017
00:53:09,070 --> 00:53:17,229
If I keep on shifting the blame, and
my way of being is intimating that I'm

1018
00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:22,150
not, uh, I'm not the reason why things
are the way they are, then naturally

1019
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,680
I'm actually in a powerless position.

1020
00:53:24,510 --> 00:53:27,430
So don't be powerless by
sh by pointing fingers.

1021
00:53:27,810 --> 00:53:30,630
Look at yourself, look at how
you're contributing an impact in the

1022
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:33,640
relationship, because that is the
only way that you're gonna actually

1023
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,919
be able to make a difference.

1024
00:53:35,710 --> 00:53:40,570
And that is, we never ever
paint that as an easy thing.

1025
00:53:40,700 --> 00:53:45,070
It feels uncomfortable and we're
always, always Very, very big on

1026
00:53:45,070 --> 00:53:48,370
saying, look, it feels uncomfortable,
but that's just what it is.

1027
00:53:48,370 --> 00:53:49,480
That is what it is.

1028
00:53:49,690 --> 00:53:51,520
Sorry, I'm just getting the charger on.

1029
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,970
Um, that's what it is.

1030
00:53:54,090 --> 00:53:59,829
So we, and that's where we'd encourage
the couples we work with to practice

1031
00:54:00,569 --> 00:54:07,820
that, that looking at themselves,
that uncomfortability going, oh,

1032
00:54:07,820 --> 00:54:12,840
I can see where I've actually, in
my silence, or even in where I've

1033
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,500
been vocal, where I've contributed.

1034
00:54:17,900 --> 00:54:21,100
Now guys, if this is resonating with you,
if you're really getting something out

1035
00:54:21,100 --> 00:54:26,095
of this, Be sure it helps out, leave us
a review, tell us that you enjoyed this

1036
00:54:26,095 --> 00:54:29,555
episode, that it's helping you, that
you're taking something away from it, uh,

1037
00:54:29,555 --> 00:54:32,105
leave us a comment on whatever platform
you are, click that like button, if you

1038
00:54:32,134 --> 00:54:35,674
happen to be on YouTube, all that good
social media nonsense, I'd love to hear

1039
00:54:35,674 --> 00:54:40,234
what you have to say about this show, you
guys know I hate that part of this, uh,

1040
00:54:40,475 --> 00:54:44,609
it's, it's like the pain in my existence,
putting this social media nonsense

1041
00:54:44,609 --> 00:54:47,979
out there, um, what are three steps?

1042
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:55,260
That our listeners can take away from
this conversation to start implementing

1043
00:54:55,330 --> 00:54:59,130
building a more intimate and connected
relationship with their partner.

1044
00:54:59,930 --> 00:55:04,630
The first thing is always either start
from the drawing board, if you're

1045
00:55:04,769 --> 00:55:09,039
starting your relationship or in the
early stages, or if you've been in your

1046
00:55:09,039 --> 00:55:11,949
relationship for a considerable amount
of time, go back to the drawing board.

1047
00:55:13,495 --> 00:55:13,945
Simple.

1048
00:55:14,255 --> 00:55:15,505
Identify your values.

1049
00:55:15,505 --> 00:55:16,825
What do we mean by values?

1050
00:55:17,355 --> 00:55:21,775
That which inherently is important
to you, not the type of stuff where

1051
00:55:21,795 --> 00:55:23,095
it's like, Oh, that's important to me.

1052
00:55:23,135 --> 00:55:24,114
Oh, that's important to me.

1053
00:55:24,115 --> 00:55:26,345
No, actually, what is
it that makes you tick?

1054
00:55:26,864 --> 00:55:29,884
And this comes with some self
analysis and contemplation, right?

1055
00:55:29,885 --> 00:55:33,174
Which is why we're so big on the software,
because if you don't know yourself,

1056
00:55:33,174 --> 00:55:36,395
you're not actually going to be able
to be able to identify those things.

1057
00:55:36,395 --> 00:55:39,865
So it takes some experimentation, but
it means you both coming to the drawing

1058
00:55:39,865 --> 00:55:46,110
board and identifying and sharing
This is actually what makes me tick.

1059
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,010
This is really important
to me at a core level.

1060
00:55:49,530 --> 00:55:54,940
Like if this isn't on it, if this
core important aspect of myself

1061
00:55:54,980 --> 00:55:59,059
isn't on it, I don't know if we
can survive this and vice versa.

1062
00:55:59,299 --> 00:56:02,119
And that honesty is very important
because it puts you in a very

1063
00:56:02,410 --> 00:56:03,739
strong starting position.

1064
00:56:03,740 --> 00:56:05,570
So there's that as a first thing.

1065
00:56:06,365 --> 00:56:07,425
Do you want to add a second?

1066
00:56:07,595 --> 00:56:09,505
I was going to talk
about the disagreement.

1067
00:56:09,545 --> 00:56:12,855
So we reframe disagreements
as opportunements.

1068
00:56:13,625 --> 00:56:17,614
So they're an opportunity in
the moment to look at what keeps

1069
00:56:17,615 --> 00:56:21,754
coming up as a disagreement and how
you're disagreeing about the thing.

1070
00:56:22,315 --> 00:56:25,425
So if there's something that keeps
reoccurring and you keep disagreeing

1071
00:56:25,425 --> 00:56:28,235
about this thing, that's a topic
of discussion that you need to make

1072
00:56:28,235 --> 00:56:30,595
time to discuss in your sacred union.

1073
00:56:31,185 --> 00:56:33,900
The second is Your lens.

1074
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:38,180
So my lens of Meshack is that he's
capable, that he loves me, that he's

1075
00:56:38,180 --> 00:56:39,870
on my team, that he's understanding.

1076
00:56:40,370 --> 00:56:44,980
If my lens or my view of him is that
he's committed to misunderstanding me,

1077
00:56:45,220 --> 00:56:50,110
he ain't put a dirt on the back of my
shoe, you know, how I talk to him, that,

1078
00:56:50,110 --> 00:56:51,290
that energy is going to be in there.

1079
00:56:52,050 --> 00:56:55,920
So I have to look at, you know, if
this disagreement keeps coming up,

1080
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,150
how is that I actually view the
person that I say I love every day?

1081
00:57:00,035 --> 00:57:02,845
And it's about really, really
being honest about that and

1082
00:57:03,195 --> 00:57:05,125
communicating that and as to why.

1083
00:57:05,775 --> 00:57:09,195
Oh, I actually think of you like
this, and it stemmed from that time

1084
00:57:09,445 --> 00:57:10,755
where you didn't hold the door for me.

1085
00:57:10,814 --> 00:57:11,094
Yeah.

1086
00:57:11,144 --> 00:57:14,274
Or you finished my food even though
I said I was hungry and I was tired.

1087
00:57:14,755 --> 00:57:16,635
Like, it could be silly
little things like that.

1088
00:57:16,895 --> 00:57:20,175
But you know, in saying that, it is
very important for everyone listening

1089
00:57:20,485 --> 00:57:24,765
to know, if you're not aware that
what Annabelle just said about it

1090
00:57:24,775 --> 00:57:26,285
stemmed from this little thing.

1091
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:32,020
Don't discount or don't underestimate
those little moments in the past in

1092
00:57:32,020 --> 00:57:36,769
your relationship or in the past with
in other relationships or friendships

1093
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:40,660
where something's happened and it's
created a trigger point within you that

1094
00:57:40,670 --> 00:57:44,550
now you bring it into this new space and
you're getting triggered by your lover

1095
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:49,290
in this new space thinking it's them
when in fact it's that which is which

1096
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:52,910
is rooted in that little moment before
but they remind you of it based on what

1097
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,980
they say what the way they Look the way
they the expression they give so really

1098
00:57:57,990 --> 00:58:02,450
this is about again self worth self
evaluation really going in to see Right.

1099
00:58:02,450 --> 00:58:04,070
What are my triggers?

1100
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:05,689
What are my emotions?

1101
00:58:06,210 --> 00:58:09,510
How do I react or respond to my
feelings and one of my favorite quotes?

1102
00:58:09,550 --> 00:58:13,020
Although I'm sure I've got many one of
them is that and this is particularly

1103
00:58:13,020 --> 00:58:18,920
for the men out there but not limited
to the men is Emotions make wonderful

1104
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,779
servants, but they make terrible masters
He tells that to our sons often and

1105
00:58:23,779 --> 00:58:27,490
it's a very important one Because our
emotions are the way through which we're

1106
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:30,380
able to manifest many powerful things.

1107
00:58:30,750 --> 00:58:35,479
But if we allow them to, if we subject
ourselves to them and we allow them

1108
00:58:35,479 --> 00:58:37,900
to be our master, they run rampant.

1109
00:58:38,450 --> 00:58:42,570
So it's so important to be the
master of your emotions or feelings

1110
00:58:42,590 --> 00:58:44,190
and not the servant of them.

1111
00:58:44,660 --> 00:58:48,090
So that's reframing the
disagreements as opportunities to

1112
00:58:48,100 --> 00:58:49,800
look at what's actually going on.

1113
00:58:50,300 --> 00:58:51,229
And then the third.

1114
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:52,730
It's talking about the lens.

1115
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:53,600
The lens.

1116
00:58:54,090 --> 00:58:56,070
So that's kind of 2.

1117
00:58:56,110 --> 00:58:56,850
3, 2.

1118
00:58:56,940 --> 00:58:57,110
2.

1119
00:58:57,140 --> 00:59:00,640
Yeah, and then I gave the first,
which is about identifying values.

1120
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:01,569
So we've got three there.

1121
00:59:01,570 --> 00:59:06,608
Yeah, the lens is identify how
you and your relationship, sacred

1122
00:59:06,608 --> 00:59:08,370
union, are viewing your lover.

1123
00:59:08,429 --> 00:59:11,550
What lens is it that you're
viewing them through?

1124
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:17,560
And once you look at that, you can
then almost adjust the energy that you,

1125
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:22,860
you, you Start conversations with the
way you broach difficult subjects, the

1126
00:59:22,860 --> 00:59:27,759
way you celebrate the way you share
really, really monitor and take stock

1127
00:59:27,810 --> 00:59:29,890
of how you are viewing your lover.

1128
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,270
And that's a huge one.

1129
00:59:32,419 --> 00:59:32,799
Yeah.

1130
00:59:32,839 --> 00:59:35,180
And remember, it's a mutual practice.

1131
00:59:35,180 --> 00:59:38,020
You're both looking at each other
and communicating with each other.

1132
00:59:38,260 --> 00:59:39,550
Maybe we're on the same team.

1133
00:59:39,570 --> 00:59:40,190
I love you.

1134
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,860
We're on the same team,
let's practice this.

1135
00:59:43,060 --> 00:59:46,450
Let's treat it as the biggest game we've
ever played and let's practice this

1136
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,500
and practice to win the competition.

1137
00:59:50,350 --> 00:59:52,429
What's next for Mishaq and Annabelle?

1138
00:59:53,210 --> 00:59:54,409
Any big projects coming along?

1139
00:59:56,420 --> 01:00:00,420
Well, it's, it's about really being
able to have more conversations

1140
01:00:00,470 --> 01:00:03,350
like this, being able to speak
to folks that we've never spoken

1141
01:00:03,350 --> 01:00:05,190
to and really make a difference.

1142
01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:06,470
We really want to make a difference.

1143
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:12,040
In fact, we, when we, prior to
getting into this game of intimacy,

1144
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:17,700
alchemy, and 1 percent love, We vowed
never to share our relationship with

1145
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,600
outsiders because we didn't want any
infiltration of energy to take place.

1146
01:00:21,810 --> 01:00:26,160
We didn't want any outside influence
to come and disrupt things.

1147
01:00:26,170 --> 01:00:28,210
So we said, no, we're going
to keep it to ourselves.

1148
01:00:28,490 --> 01:00:31,360
But there were a few real
serendipitous moments with friends.

1149
01:00:31,765 --> 01:00:35,235
And we've been asked for many
years how we are able to connect

1150
01:00:35,285 --> 01:00:38,255
the way we do, et cetera, on how
we've been together for so long.

1151
01:00:38,685 --> 01:00:42,385
And we've shared, but actually there
were a few serendipitous moments within

1152
01:00:42,385 --> 01:00:45,074
the last year where we were like,
no, we need to start sharing this.

1153
01:00:45,074 --> 01:00:48,234
So I think ultimately there are
many big dreams and goals and

1154
01:00:48,234 --> 01:00:51,315
aspirations we have, but we want
to make a difference to people.

1155
01:00:51,345 --> 01:00:52,085
And if that is.

1156
01:00:52,350 --> 01:00:55,820
on, in conversations like this,
or if it is within our program,

1157
01:00:56,330 --> 01:01:00,040
the main thing is that people feel
like, right, I've got something and

1158
01:01:00,180 --> 01:01:02,640
they can say, wow, 1 percent love.

1159
01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:04,090
I'm actually a 1 percent lover.

1160
01:01:04,270 --> 01:01:04,580
Yeah.

1161
01:01:04,620 --> 01:01:05,899
I'm actually a 1 percent lover.

1162
01:01:05,969 --> 01:01:09,180
We want to provide people with
something that, if we'd had this

1163
01:01:09,189 --> 01:01:14,180
in year 10, as it is now, and the
systems that we've created, we

1164
01:01:14,180 --> 01:01:15,580
would have got here a lot faster.

1165
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,940
So that's what we want to
be able to give to everyone.

1166
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:20,790
We initially wanted it for our sons.

1167
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,570
You know, we're very big on legacy.

1168
01:01:22,570 --> 01:01:23,780
What do we leave behind?

1169
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:29,209
And we just wanted them to know how to
talk to people, how to talk to themselves.

1170
01:01:29,879 --> 01:01:32,990
But to know that we can hand a
blueprint and a system that has been

1171
01:01:32,990 --> 01:01:39,260
tried, tested, and works to people
all over this planet warms our hearts.

1172
01:01:39,260 --> 01:01:41,490
That makes us even more passionate.

1173
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:42,640
Sorry about that.

1174
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:45,360
Even more passionate about our message.

1175
01:01:45,820 --> 01:01:46,510
So that's big.

1176
01:01:46,540 --> 01:01:49,630
So we want to, we want to connect
with more people like ourselves

1177
01:01:50,290 --> 01:01:53,330
all over the world who want to,
you know, we want to do retreats.

1178
01:01:53,330 --> 01:01:55,880
We want to meet other 1 percent
lovers across the world.

1179
01:01:56,250 --> 01:01:56,510
Yeah.

1180
01:01:56,590 --> 01:01:59,480
And just connect and share
and grow this community.

1181
01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:03,389
Where's the best place for
people to connect with you?

1182
01:02:05,620 --> 01:02:06,300
Instagram.

1183
01:02:06,570 --> 01:02:08,040
Primarily as it stands.

1184
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,330
We also have our website, which you've
all obviously mentioned, Brent, which

1185
01:02:11,330 --> 01:02:13,809
is at, which is the spoonerstate.

1186
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:14,210
com.

1187
01:02:14,340 --> 01:02:18,440
Oh, so that's the spoonerstate.

1188
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,349
So folks, anyone who's watching,
you can see how it's spelled there.

1189
01:02:21,499 --> 01:02:22,190
That is me.

1190
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,300
I just cut my hair off.

1191
01:02:23,319 --> 01:02:24,259
Yeah, exactly.

1192
01:02:24,509 --> 01:02:28,720
And then our Instagram handle is at the
spoonerstate with the same spelling.

1193
01:02:28,740 --> 01:02:31,300
T H E S P double O N E R.

1194
01:02:31,575 --> 01:02:32,545
S T A T E.

1195
01:02:33,785 --> 01:02:34,335
Don't regret what we've got.

1196
01:02:35,135 --> 01:02:36,865
People mowing the lawn outside.

1197
01:02:37,725 --> 01:02:38,105
I know.

1198
01:02:38,285 --> 01:02:39,865
My neighbors do it at
the worst time, right?

1199
01:02:40,274 --> 01:02:41,614
It's pitch black outside.

1200
01:02:42,405 --> 01:02:45,675
It's 340 here, it's pitch black, and
we've got someone mowing the lawn.

1201
01:02:47,394 --> 01:02:53,025
I go, about the time I go to my backyard
to try and relax, like, I enjoy cigars.

1202
01:02:53,065 --> 01:02:57,395
So, when I really need to just
tune out for, like, an hour, like,

1203
01:02:57,525 --> 01:02:58,985
actually, truly take a break.

1204
01:03:00,005 --> 01:03:04,425
I'll, I'll go have a cigar every now
and then, and I'll go to my cigar, and

1205
01:03:04,425 --> 01:03:08,965
it might be evening or midday or like,
but whenever it's like, it's like magic.

1206
01:03:08,994 --> 01:03:11,795
I light my cigar to sit
down and try and relax.

1207
01:03:12,065 --> 01:03:15,024
My neighbor's like turns on his air
compressor and starts doing stuff

1208
01:03:15,025 --> 01:03:16,565
and it's just how it happens, right?

1209
01:03:18,325 --> 01:03:19,725
It's not just you guys.

1210
01:03:19,725 --> 01:03:20,765
It's, it's everywhere.

1211
01:03:21,050 --> 01:03:21,940
It's amazing.

1212
01:03:21,940 --> 01:03:24,720
It's another, another day in paradise.

1213
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,129
So sorry, sorry guys.

1214
01:03:26,129 --> 01:03:30,810
And guys, we'll have all of their links
down in the show notes or description,

1215
01:03:30,810 --> 01:03:32,680
whatever platform you're enjoying this on.

1216
01:03:33,249 --> 01:03:35,570
I promise we will have ways for
you guys to connect with them.

1217
01:03:35,860 --> 01:03:38,089
I doubt this will be our last crossover.

1218
01:03:38,150 --> 01:03:40,450
Now, I know this is what you
were really concerned about.

1219
01:03:41,375 --> 01:03:44,035
Who is generally considered
the inventor of the motor car.

1220
01:03:44,425 --> 01:03:45,955
You said Henry Ford.

1221
01:03:46,665 --> 01:03:48,965
The answer is Carl Benz

1222
01:03:54,284 --> 01:03:58,654
I believe so I'd have to I'd have to
verify that so don't quote me, but

1223
01:03:58,965 --> 01:04:05,755
I believe that yeah Okay, so hey,
you know what I if I if I wasn't

1224
01:04:05,755 --> 01:04:08,770
the guy asking the question I would
have guessed Henry Ford too Cause in

1225
01:04:08,770 --> 01:04:10,540
America, it's, it's Henry Ford, right?

1226
01:04:10,630 --> 01:04:16,270
That's, that's what
everybody, the model T right.

1227
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:17,440
Everybody knows that stuff.

1228
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,410
Now, guys, I want you to take us out.

1229
01:04:20,660 --> 01:04:26,779
If our audience hears nothing else
out of this conversation, what do

1230
01:04:26,779 --> 01:04:28,740
you want them to take away today?

1231
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,040
Yeah, I feel like
there's another takeaway.

1232
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,740
I feel like there's another takeaway.

1233
01:04:36,950 --> 01:04:39,190
Let's say that, and
then we'll add on to it.

1234
01:04:39,190 --> 01:04:39,740
Okay, ready?

1235
01:04:40,490 --> 01:04:42,229
Three, two, one.

1236
01:04:42,530 --> 01:04:45,549
The grass is greener where you water it.

1237
01:04:48,590 --> 01:04:49,139
I love it.

1238
01:04:49,740 --> 01:04:50,090
I love it.

1239
01:04:50,270 --> 01:04:51,449
You guys are, it's so cute.

1240
01:04:51,450 --> 01:04:52,970
You guys are in so much of a sync.

1241
01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:57,200
Guys, thanks for hanging
out with us today.

1242
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:58,460
Thanks for giving us a chance.

1243
01:04:58,500 --> 01:04:59,700
I hope you enjoyed the show.

1244
01:05:00,180 --> 01:05:03,570
Be sure to reach out and connect
with Meshack and Annabelle.

1245
01:05:03,570 --> 01:05:04,600
We'll have all that for you.

1246
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,630
Be better tomorrow because what you do
today, and we'll see on the next one.

1247
01:05:09,220 --> 01:05:14,819
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1248
01:05:14,850 --> 01:05:17,629
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1249
01:05:17,629 --> 01:05:22,279
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1250
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:22,790
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1251
01:05:23,300 --> 01:05:31,439
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Annabel and Meshach

Intimacy Alchemists

Annabel and Meshach of The Spooner State are Intimacy Alchemists and have been together for 20 years.

They have cultivated a profound and ever-evolving Sacred Union rooted in open communication and mutual growth. Their journey has led to a love they affectionately term '1% Love'—a love adorned with endless supplies of love, connection, intimacy, adventure, fun, and fulfillment.

They have a vision to make ‘1% Love’ a global phenomenon.

‘1% Love’ is the type of love shared between lovers which makes people think:

“How in the world do they seem so in love?”

“How are they so connected and in tune?”

“What do I need to do to have a love like that?”

Using their proprietary method, The 1% Lovers Transformation Method™, they empower couples to transform their relationships into Sacred Unions of ‘1% Love’ within 30 days.