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Faith, Family, Freedom with Entrepreneur Don Abod

Faith, Family, Freedom with Entrepreneur Don Abod

What’s at your core? Do you know, have you thought about it? What really makes you tick? On today’s show I sit down with Entrepreneur and podcaster Don Abod to discuss raising kids, working with your spouse, Capitalism, Modern School, Faith in Entreprene...

What’s at your core? Do you know, have you thought about it? What really makes you tick? On today’s show I sit down with Entrepreneur and podcaster Don Abod to discuss raising kids, working with your spouse, Capitalism, Modern School, Faith in Entrepreneurship, family and so much more!

Don Abad is a creative consultant, speaker, and the founder of Sovereign Stories, which offers post-production solutions for values-focused filmmakers and content creators.

Don is the host of two podcasts. His flagship show, Sovereign, is dedicated to discussing FAITH, FAMILY, and FREEDOM and why we need more storytellers to promote these three pillars of a person’s life.

He and his wife Kimmi also host Your Sovereign Downline, a podcast where they share lessons learned after over a decade in the network marketing industry and their best tips and strategies for building a home-based business in the 2020s.

Aside from working on his businesses and the occasional movie or TV project, Don spends most of his time traveling the world with Kimmi and their bouncy baby boy.

 

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Transcript
1 00:00:01,290 --> 00:00:02,880 Here's the million dollar question. 2 00:00:03,390 --> 00:00:07,050 How do men like us reach our full potential and grow into the men we 3 00:00:07,050 --> 00:00:10,960 dream of being while taking care of our responsibilities, working, 4 00:00:11,370 --> 00:00:15,870 being good husbands, fathers, and still take care of ourselves? 5 00:00:16,740 --> 00:00:18,450 That's the question in this podcast. 6 00:00:18,750 --> 00:00:20,040 We'll help you with those answers. 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,130 My name is Brent and welcome to the Fallible Man podcast. 8 00:00:23,130 --> 00:00:25,050 Welcome to the Fallible Man Podcast, your home for all 9 00:00:25,050 --> 00:00:26,580 things, man, husband, and father. 10 00:00:26,585 --> 00:00:30,330 My name is Brent, and my special guest today is Don Abad. 11 00:00:30,570 --> 00:00:31,640 Don, welcome 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:32,580 to the show. 13 00:00:33,510 --> 00:00:33,930 Hey, Brent. 14 00:00:33,935 --> 00:00:34,320 Good to see 15 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:34,500 you. 16 00:00:35,610 --> 00:00:36,390 I appreciate you. 17 00:00:36,390 --> 00:00:36,960 Check in. 18 00:00:37,020 --> 00:00:40,050 Don is checking in with us from the other side of the world, so it is 19 00:00:40,050 --> 00:00:43,800 the middle of the night for him, so I'm grateful for being able to sync 20 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,220 up and do this show with you, man. 21 00:00:45,231 --> 00:00:46,041 Yeah, I appreciate it. 22 00:00:46,108 --> 00:00:48,801 Don, I don't do big introductions. 23 00:00:48,851 --> 00:00:52,931 I used to, I stopped doing it because I get to research you guys before the show. 24 00:00:53,636 --> 00:00:57,536 That just doesn't really convey to my audience who you are. 25 00:00:57,896 --> 00:01:00,206 So, in your own words, who is Donna bod? 26 00:01:00,290 --> 00:01:04,400 I always like to preface this answer with, I wear a lot of hats, 27 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:09,590 but I'm a storyteller at heart because I think as really, as far 28 00:01:09,590 --> 00:01:14,270 as I remember, I never wanted to be put into a box, and I don't think 29 00:01:14,270 --> 00:01:16,430 anybody could ever put me into a box. 30 00:01:16,730 --> 00:01:19,850 I remember, you know the question that we always get asked as a kid, 31 00:01:19,850 --> 00:01:21,110 What do you wanna be when you grow up? 32 00:01:22,130 --> 00:01:23,960 I could never answer that question. 33 00:01:24,260 --> 00:01:27,710 I asked my mom one time, What's a career? 34 00:01:27,740 --> 00:01:33,770 What's the profession that you can basically hop in and out of whatever role 35 00:01:33,890 --> 00:01:35,881 you want, at a whim, at a moment's notice? 36 00:01:36,631 --> 00:01:40,321 And I remember her giving me the answer that scientists are 37 00:01:40,321 --> 00:01:41,491 able to do whatever they want. 38 00:01:41,491 --> 00:01:44,641 And I think looking back, I think she meant that there are 39 00:01:44,641 --> 00:01:46,141 different types of scientists. 40 00:01:46,141 --> 00:01:48,271 So I could choose what type of scientist I want it to be. 41 00:01:48,976 --> 00:01:53,776 But in my little six year old brainer, whatever it was, however old I was, I 42 00:01:53,776 --> 00:01:57,466 thought that meant that as a scientist, if I became a scientist, I could be a 43 00:01:57,466 --> 00:02:00,976 race car driver one day, then I, if I got bored of that, I could be a scuba 44 00:02:00,976 --> 00:02:04,246 diver, then I can be an astronaut, that an engineer, whatever I wanted to do. 45 00:02:04,546 --> 00:02:06,556 And so I thought I'd be a scientist. 46 00:02:06,796 --> 00:02:10,786 And entrepreneurship was never something that was, it 47 00:02:10,786 --> 00:02:12,166 wasn't in anyone's vocabulary. 48 00:02:12,166 --> 00:02:14,229 I mean, this was the the mid nineties. 49 00:02:14,589 --> 00:02:18,699 So I discovered later on that I had that entrepreneurial bone. 50 00:02:18,699 --> 00:02:23,894 And that's really the type of personality that can't be fit into a box anyway. 51 00:02:23,894 --> 00:02:26,864 But it was a long journey of self discovery. 52 00:02:27,284 --> 00:02:30,895 And I'm also in the arts particularly filmmaking. 53 00:02:30,895 --> 00:02:31,868 That's my passion. 54 00:02:32,438 --> 00:02:36,896 I love writing stories, telling stories, and somewhere along the line I took 55 00:02:36,896 --> 00:02:40,756 up my dad's what you call a VH camera for your younger listeners out there. 56 00:02:40,756 --> 00:02:43,156 It's a ancient piece of technology. 57 00:02:43,156 --> 00:02:47,069 I'd take that VHS camera and I'd go to school and I just video my friends 58 00:02:47,090 --> 00:02:50,435 just take them doing some skit that I cooked up in my head the night before. 59 00:02:50,435 --> 00:02:51,245 And I love it. 60 00:02:51,455 --> 00:02:54,858 I just love the art and craft of taking something for my head and 61 00:02:54,858 --> 00:02:56,838 making it real in a visual format. 62 00:02:56,838 --> 00:03:00,089 So filmmaking is stuck with me all my life, and I'm still doing it somewhat. 63 00:03:00,094 --> 00:03:02,952 Now, of course, with the pandemics it's a little tough to really get some projects 64 00:03:02,952 --> 00:03:05,712 going, especially here in the Philippines where we still have a lot of restrictions. 65 00:03:05,982 --> 00:03:10,165 But anyway there was a point where, you know, the word struggling 66 00:03:10,165 --> 00:03:15,205 artist is a cliche for a reason because I like so many people who 67 00:03:15,205 --> 00:03:16,675 are in the arts who are creatives. 68 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,385 I didn't know how to monetize my passions. 69 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,530 And unfortunately asking other people around wasn't really a big help because 70 00:03:24,130 --> 00:03:28,120 really the path that I want to take in life was unusual from the very beginning. 71 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,905 I remember asking one of my professors in university well, he 72 00:03:30,905 --> 00:03:33,245 asked me the same question, What do you want to be when you grow up? 73 00:03:33,245 --> 00:03:34,655 What do you wanna do after you graduate? 74 00:03:35,045 --> 00:03:38,885 And I answered filmmaking and then he took one look at me and then he said, 75 00:03:39,155 --> 00:03:40,475 So you don't wanna make any money. 76 00:03:41,045 --> 00:03:45,665 And I knew he was half joking, but jokes are half meant anyway. 77 00:03:45,725 --> 00:03:47,564 And it didn't, deter me or anything. 78 00:03:47,564 --> 00:03:50,954 But again, that's why it took me a long time to really find my flow and 79 00:03:51,194 --> 00:03:52,634 what I wanted to do professionally. 80 00:03:52,639 --> 00:03:54,016 And fast forward a little bit. 81 00:03:54,016 --> 00:03:58,006 I met my wife and her, she and her family have been involved in the 82 00:03:58,006 --> 00:04:00,275 network marketing industry for 10 years. 83 00:04:00,275 --> 00:04:02,503 At the time we met, that was seven years ago. 84 00:04:02,953 --> 00:04:05,743 And I knew about network marketing. 85 00:04:05,743 --> 00:04:08,473 The Philippines is basically the mecca for network marketing. 86 00:04:08,473 --> 00:04:11,233 I've been pitched left and right by every opportunity under the sun. 87 00:04:11,443 --> 00:04:13,153 And my mom's in one, actually. 88 00:04:13,195 --> 00:04:13,885 big company. 89 00:04:14,365 --> 00:04:17,765 I knew the business model worked, but as a filmmaker, I thought it wasn't for me. 90 00:04:17,765 --> 00:04:22,377 But when my wife took me to one of her conventions I discovered people just like 91 00:04:22,377 --> 00:04:27,485 myself, young guys at the time filmmakers, artists even got, C-Suite people. 92 00:04:27,485 --> 00:04:31,995 We got engineers, architects, accountants, all walks of life, single, married 93 00:04:32,015 --> 00:04:36,074 and I realized that all of these people, they had one thing in common. 94 00:04:36,254 --> 00:04:39,554 It's not that they're natural business people or math people 95 00:04:39,554 --> 00:04:41,714 are logical, melancholic people. 96 00:04:41,804 --> 00:04:45,224 They had a dream and they wanted to find a vehicle and mentorship to make 97 00:04:45,224 --> 00:04:47,204 it whatever that dream is a reality. 98 00:04:47,414 --> 00:04:49,064 And that basically sucked me in. 99 00:04:49,064 --> 00:04:50,444 And I don't wanna go into too much detail. 100 00:04:50,444 --> 00:04:53,781 You can ask me later on if you wanna talk about my experience in the industry. 101 00:04:53,781 --> 00:04:57,606 But suffice it to say that really drew me down the the 102 00:04:57,611 --> 00:04:59,166 rabbit hole of entrepreneurship. 103 00:04:59,376 --> 00:05:01,536 And now I sort of combined both of my passions. 104 00:05:01,536 --> 00:05:04,656 I discovered that, business is a passion of mine. 105 00:05:05,211 --> 00:05:10,010 And I combined that with my love of film and now I run a creative agency. 106 00:05:10,010 --> 00:05:16,201 And and really my, one of my big missions is to empower and to educate and to 107 00:05:16,201 --> 00:05:22,141 inspire people like myself struggling artists to consider entrepreneurship 108 00:05:22,141 --> 00:05:25,951 because I think that's the missing link with so many people like myself. 109 00:05:25,951 --> 00:05:28,981 There's so many talented people with amazing stories to tell, but they just 110 00:05:28,981 --> 00:05:31,111 don't know how to monetize that story. 111 00:05:31,351 --> 00:05:34,651 And in this world, I think we need more voices being uplifted. 112 00:05:34,891 --> 00:05:39,571 And the sovereign brand, which I'm sure we'll talk about later on, is really 113 00:05:39,811 --> 00:05:44,641 built for that as a platform to inspire other artists and really anybody who 114 00:05:44,641 --> 00:05:47,461 has a message to share, no matter what their background or profession 115 00:05:47,461 --> 00:05:51,661 is, to be able to create a platform, build a brand, and tell that story. 116 00:05:52,621 --> 00:05:53,011 Okay, 117 00:05:54,751 --> 00:05:57,541 so here's the hard question of the show, right? 118 00:05:57,541 --> 00:05:58,981 If you can handle this, you got everything. 119 00:05:59,771 --> 00:06:01,018 What's your favorite ice cream? 120 00:06:01,037 --> 00:06:04,817 The first thing that popped into my mind is chicken flavored ice cream. 121 00:06:06,317 --> 00:06:08,807 It's a long story, but here in the Philippines we got 122 00:06:08,807 --> 00:06:10,547 some weird ice cream flavors. 123 00:06:10,727 --> 00:06:15,203 My dad always brings up all these exotic flavors and brings these 124 00:06:15,283 --> 00:06:17,656 ice creams home that you'd never find anywhere else in the world. 125 00:06:19,036 --> 00:06:20,696 I'll keep it simple and say Rocky Road 126 00:06:20,700 --> 00:06:21,836 . I'm, now I'm of all 127 00:06:21,836 --> 00:06:24,551 the, of all the exotic flavors I'll settle on Rocky Road. 128 00:06:25,061 --> 00:06:25,781 I'm really curious. 129 00:06:25,781 --> 00:06:27,131 Now, is chicken ice 130 00:06:27,131 --> 00:06:27,911 cream actually a thing? 131 00:06:28,901 --> 00:06:30,431 It is actually a thing. 132 00:06:30,761 --> 00:06:31,391 Wow. 133 00:06:31,751 --> 00:06:32,111 Okay. 134 00:06:32,561 --> 00:06:35,661 Here at least, I don't know if it exists in any other part of the world. 135 00:06:35,688 --> 00:06:36,558 That's very original. 136 00:06:36,558 --> 00:06:37,651 I've heard a lot of things. 137 00:06:38,071 --> 00:06:41,838 The only other thing that even came close is there was a burnt fig and 138 00:06:41,898 --> 00:06:47,895 almond that's some really high end thing in Sydney that one of my guests likes. 139 00:06:49,230 --> 00:06:52,200 I was like, I, I don't even, I can't even imagine that. 140 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,590 So yeah, Rock Road is a great flavor. 141 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,110 Chicken ice cream is definitely an interesting idea. 142 00:06:59,220 --> 00:07:01,290 But hey, that's one of the cool things about talking to people 143 00:07:01,290 --> 00:07:04,950 internationally is you get to explore a whole new world out there. 144 00:07:05,034 --> 00:07:05,994 There's catch flavor. 145 00:07:05,994 --> 00:07:12,686 Doritos in Canada, my friend introduced me to, I was like, Ketchup flavor Doritos. 146 00:07:12,686 --> 00:07:13,046 Why? 147 00:07:13,076 --> 00:07:14,156 Why would you do that? 148 00:07:14,546 --> 00:07:16,196 Ketchup, Flavor Doritos. 149 00:07:16,526 --> 00:07:16,916 Yeah. 150 00:07:17,366 --> 00:07:17,816 That's new. 151 00:07:18,116 --> 00:07:18,416 Yeah. 152 00:07:18,476 --> 00:07:18,836 Right. 153 00:07:19,796 --> 00:07:23,469 So you you said your wife, you've been together for seven years. 154 00:07:23,469 --> 00:07:24,159 You have kids? 155 00:07:24,999 --> 00:07:25,342 Yep. 156 00:07:25,342 --> 00:07:26,184 Two year old boy. 157 00:07:26,514 --> 00:07:27,564 Congratulations. 158 00:07:28,074 --> 00:07:28,494 Thank you. 159 00:07:29,274 --> 00:07:30,904 Family life is always fun. 160 00:07:30,904 --> 00:07:34,189 I notice that's one of your big things, faith, family, and freedom mm-hmm. 161 00:07:34,549 --> 00:07:35,919 , We'll get into that in a second. 162 00:07:37,149 --> 00:07:40,869 Now, tell me a little bit about team Sovereign, your 163 00:07:41,299 --> 00:07:41,379 business. 164 00:07:43,524 --> 00:07:46,865 Well, team sovereign, I like to differentiate between the different 165 00:07:46,886 --> 00:07:50,996 ventures that I have because they're all under the umbrella of sovereign team. 166 00:07:50,996 --> 00:07:53,966 Sovereign in particular, since you asked is specifically for 167 00:07:53,966 --> 00:07:55,637 my network marketing ventures. 168 00:07:55,685 --> 00:07:57,065 So I have a podcast. 169 00:07:57,065 --> 00:07:57,935 I have two podcasts. 170 00:07:57,935 --> 00:07:59,475 The Sovereign Podcast is one of them. 171 00:07:59,475 --> 00:08:00,588 That's my flagship show. 172 00:08:00,588 --> 00:08:01,638 I interview great people. 173 00:08:02,058 --> 00:08:04,899 And my second podcast is Your Sovereign Down Line. 174 00:08:04,899 --> 00:08:09,349 And it sort of documents my whole journey, both my wife Kim and I in the 175 00:08:09,354 --> 00:08:14,158 industry, the network marketing industry and Team Sovereign is my down line. 176 00:08:14,158 --> 00:08:17,366 It's I also coach people, not even necessarily in my team or my 177 00:08:17,366 --> 00:08:20,036 company, but is are in the industry. 178 00:08:20,336 --> 00:08:21,691 And that's basically it. 179 00:08:21,691 --> 00:08:25,111 It's it's my coaching program for anybody in the network marketing industry. 180 00:08:25,651 --> 00:08:26,071 Okay. 181 00:08:26,611 --> 00:08:30,511 So you have your coaching program and you have your downline podcast, and 182 00:08:30,511 --> 00:08:33,001 then you have your sovereign with Donna. 183 00:08:35,176 --> 00:08:35,926 What's your podcast 184 00:08:35,926 --> 00:08:36,196 about? 185 00:08:38,446 --> 00:08:42,736 Sovereign is about faith, family freedom, and I interview people who live 186 00:08:42,736 --> 00:08:48,166 those three, what I call foundations of life out to their fullest extent. 187 00:08:48,436 --> 00:08:52,066 And you're telling me before we started that you were listening to my to one of 188 00:08:52,066 --> 00:08:55,712 my interviews, and I'm sure you caught it, near the end of the conversation. 189 00:08:55,712 --> 00:08:59,882 I always ask my guests, what is your definition of a sovereign human being? 190 00:09:00,332 --> 00:09:03,602 And that's sort of, if I'm honest, that's sort of a gimmick just to cap 191 00:09:03,607 --> 00:09:07,135 things off, just to give a thematic, resident to all of my episodes. 192 00:09:07,255 --> 00:09:09,775 Because when I say what's a sovereign human being, the answer 193 00:09:09,775 --> 00:09:12,935 is in the stories that they tell throughout the conversation. 194 00:09:12,961 --> 00:09:16,381 They don't need to tell you what their definition is, it just puts 195 00:09:16,381 --> 00:09:20,296 their life into words, I guess, encapsulates it in sort of a summary. 196 00:09:20,716 --> 00:09:24,626 But sovereign is about helping you maximize that triad. 197 00:09:25,276 --> 00:09:29,854 That Tribe of Fs, faith, family freedom, which I think that if you're able to 198 00:09:30,004 --> 00:09:34,294 get crystal clear on what your faith is what family means to you, and if 199 00:09:34,294 --> 00:09:39,034 you embrace your freedom as a sovereign human being, then you'll be able to do 200 00:09:39,064 --> 00:09:40,436 pretty much anything you want in life. 201 00:09:40,442 --> 00:09:42,582 While we're there, let's step into that. 202 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:45,715 You say faith, family freedom, are your core foundational values. 203 00:09:45,715 --> 00:09:47,425 Will you kinda take into that a little bit? 204 00:09:47,965 --> 00:09:48,295 Sure. 205 00:09:48,895 --> 00:09:54,085 So faith, now I'm a Christian, I'm a Catholic, and I believe that God 206 00:09:54,085 --> 00:09:56,335 guides every single one of my steps. 207 00:09:56,695 --> 00:10:01,855 But I'm aware that not everybody shares that same belief system. 208 00:10:01,975 --> 00:10:08,575 But I still think that faith is a vital, a vital facet of life to, to maximize. 209 00:10:08,580 --> 00:10:09,655 Because what is faith? 210 00:10:09,674 --> 00:10:13,609 Faith is really just the belief that there's something beyond you. 211 00:10:14,359 --> 00:10:16,939 That's guiding you toward whatever your destiny is. 212 00:10:17,359 --> 00:10:19,279 So call it the universe. 213 00:10:19,307 --> 00:10:21,950 I don't even like to use the word universe anymore, but you know, 214 00:10:21,955 --> 00:10:25,428 just to really accommodate those who don't share my belief system. 215 00:10:25,788 --> 00:10:28,428 Even whatever you call your higher, whatever you call 216 00:10:28,428 --> 00:10:29,778 that, higher being mm-hmm. 217 00:10:30,078 --> 00:10:34,998 , if you believe, if you wholeheartedly accept the fact that you are a tiny, 218 00:10:34,998 --> 00:10:38,507 little mortal human being on this earth, that is the beginning of humility. 219 00:10:39,107 --> 00:10:42,887 And once you have humility, your potential for growth is unlimited. 220 00:10:43,097 --> 00:10:47,657 But I think that you only are able to achieve true humility when you 221 00:10:47,662 --> 00:10:52,517 realize that there's somebody or something way, way, way beyond. 222 00:10:53,057 --> 00:10:58,007 Way, way, way beyond you in scope that humbles you to be able to open 223 00:10:58,007 --> 00:11:01,323 yourself up to growth, whatever that growth needs to be in your life. 224 00:11:01,323 --> 00:11:02,643 So that's the role of faith. 225 00:11:03,213 --> 00:11:07,443 And then family, obviously, it all starts and ends with family for so many people. 226 00:11:07,443 --> 00:11:13,590 And I was blessed enough to have grown up in a household with a present mother 227 00:11:13,595 --> 00:11:17,991 and father, a strong father who, you know, protected, provided, presided 228 00:11:17,996 --> 00:11:23,131 for the family provided direction to the family, and a mother who's loving, 229 00:11:23,131 --> 00:11:25,702 nurturing, supportive amazing parents. 230 00:11:25,707 --> 00:11:30,352 But just like faith, I know that a lot of people unfortunately, 231 00:11:30,682 --> 00:11:31,882 don't have that set up. 232 00:11:32,002 --> 00:11:34,552 They weren't raised in a, in a traditional family household 233 00:11:34,552 --> 00:11:35,812 with a present mother and father. 234 00:11:35,932 --> 00:11:40,252 And in that case, family is still just as relevant to them. 235 00:11:40,762 --> 00:11:42,832 But sometimes it's a matter of. 236 00:11:43,552 --> 00:11:47,932 Not necessarily looking to the people who are blood related to you, because 237 00:11:47,932 --> 00:11:51,172 again, a lot of people, they might not really have anybody who's blood 238 00:11:51,172 --> 00:11:54,022 related to them that they can connect with, that they can reach out to. 239 00:11:54,022 --> 00:11:55,252 Maybe they're all alone in the world. 240 00:11:55,612 --> 00:11:58,281 Well, if anyone watches the Fast and Furious franchise, 241 00:11:58,341 --> 00:11:59,511 they always talk about family. 242 00:11:59,511 --> 00:12:03,621 Family's a huge theme in Fast and Furious, but that rag tag team of guys 243 00:12:03,621 --> 00:12:07,545 and girls the family wasn't created through blood, but just through bonds. 244 00:12:07,755 --> 00:12:12,615 So even if you don't have a present, mother, father, grandparents, uncles, 245 00:12:12,620 --> 00:12:17,385 aunts, whoever, siblings you create your family and who's your family. 246 00:12:17,535 --> 00:12:21,165 Your family are the people who you can confide in, in the 247 00:12:21,165 --> 00:12:22,615 most important things to you. 248 00:12:22,615 --> 00:12:26,933 The people who share your most important core values, who you can share maybe 249 00:12:26,938 --> 00:12:30,743 not your deepest, darkest secrets, but at least the dreams that maybe you're 250 00:12:30,743 --> 00:12:34,583 ashamed to talk about with anybody else, because they're so heartfelt. 251 00:12:34,588 --> 00:12:37,433 They're so deep, they're so unusual. 252 00:12:37,793 --> 00:12:43,013 Your family are the people who will accept you for who you are and 253 00:12:43,018 --> 00:12:47,328 will provide the motivation and the encouragement and even the guidance 254 00:12:47,688 --> 00:12:50,850 to help you through, guide you through whatever challenges that you have. 255 00:12:50,850 --> 00:12:54,660 These are the human beings that you turn to throughout any of your challenges. 256 00:12:54,660 --> 00:12:55,380 And then freedom. 257 00:12:55,460 --> 00:12:58,620 Freedom, that can code down a whole rabbit hole because freedom 258 00:12:58,620 --> 00:13:00,270 is such a contentious issue. 259 00:13:00,270 --> 00:13:03,746 And I know I'm, I am sure you have your own thoughts on this brand, 260 00:13:03,986 --> 00:13:07,536 but freedom to me at its most basic level it's a twofold thing. 261 00:13:07,536 --> 00:13:11,796 Freedom is, freedom is the ability to do whatever you want, or 262 00:13:11,801 --> 00:13:14,556 really the acknowledgement that you can do whatever you want. 263 00:13:14,556 --> 00:13:18,186 I don't care who you are, you have choice, you have the power of choice. 264 00:13:18,336 --> 00:13:20,466 Now, unfortunately, a lot of people stop there. 265 00:13:20,976 --> 00:13:22,056 A lot of people stop. 266 00:13:22,116 --> 00:13:25,086 And that this is why a lot of people scoff at freedom nowadays. 267 00:13:25,086 --> 00:13:29,324 They just think that it's this sort of uniquely American value even 268 00:13:29,654 --> 00:13:33,204 that you can do whatever you want without regard for the consequences. 269 00:13:33,669 --> 00:13:37,659 And a lot of the time the word freedom or people who love freedom 270 00:13:37,659 --> 00:13:40,936 are being portrayed as these people who lack responsibility or lack 271 00:13:40,936 --> 00:13:43,186 regard for other people's wellbeing. 272 00:13:43,186 --> 00:13:45,572 They just wanna do whatever they want without thinking about the 273 00:13:45,572 --> 00:13:47,742 consequences of exercising that freedom. 274 00:13:48,042 --> 00:13:51,102 So this is what I say, that's just the first part of freedom. 275 00:13:51,372 --> 00:13:55,662 I think freedom isn't just doing what you want, it's also acknowledging the fact 276 00:13:55,662 --> 00:14:00,312 that there's responsibility, there's duty that comes packaged with freedom, right? 277 00:14:00,312 --> 00:14:01,422 Because what's freedom? 278 00:14:01,422 --> 00:14:02,802 Freedom really is a power. 279 00:14:02,862 --> 00:14:06,522 And I watched Spider-Man again with my sister earlier and what's 280 00:14:06,522 --> 00:14:07,662 that great Spider-Man coat? 281 00:14:07,662 --> 00:14:09,672 With great power comes great responsibility. 282 00:14:09,882 --> 00:14:10,452 So I think. 283 00:14:11,157 --> 00:14:16,977 A person who exercises their freedom to the fullest extent, not only understands 284 00:14:16,977 --> 00:14:20,547 and embrace the fact that they can do whatever they want, that they have the 285 00:14:20,547 --> 00:14:24,417 choice to control their destiny, control their life, the direction of their life. 286 00:14:24,597 --> 00:14:27,897 They also understand that it's not only about them, it's not only 287 00:14:27,897 --> 00:14:30,297 about those superficial pleasures. 288 00:14:30,297 --> 00:14:31,707 What do I want out of life? 289 00:14:31,917 --> 00:14:33,537 What do I want out of the situation? 290 00:14:33,687 --> 00:14:37,047 It's also knowing that because there's so much power in the fact 291 00:14:37,047 --> 00:14:40,647 that I can choose, I better make sure that the choices I make also have 292 00:14:40,652 --> 00:14:42,387 a positive impact on other people. 293 00:14:42,687 --> 00:14:46,887 And ultimately that leads to not just a successful life, but a significant life. 294 00:14:47,247 --> 00:14:49,197 Cuz anybody can find success. 295 00:14:49,527 --> 00:14:54,564 But unless you also have significance as a huge part of your life, paying it forward, 296 00:14:55,014 --> 00:14:58,104 doing things for people other than yourself, then I don't think you're ever 297 00:14:58,109 --> 00:15:02,964 gonna live a really, truly fulfilled life if you have success without significance. 298 00:15:02,969 --> 00:15:04,884 So that's freedom in a nutshell. 299 00:15:05,844 --> 00:15:06,184 Okay. 300 00:15:06,186 --> 00:15:08,334 I definitely have my thoughts on it, but I'm agreeing with 301 00:15:08,334 --> 00:15:09,474 you on a whole lot of that. 302 00:15:09,474 --> 00:15:15,534 Cause I, a lot of the people I know who embrace freedom, I mean as Americans, 303 00:15:15,534 --> 00:15:20,800 the fullest extent I have a military family and a lot of military friends and 304 00:15:20,858 --> 00:15:26,361 those guys absolutely love and embrace freedom, but they're also willing to 305 00:15:26,361 --> 00:15:31,851 fight for it, to serve, for it, to lay down their lives for it if they need to. 306 00:15:32,161 --> 00:15:36,620 They have a very I dunno, civic duty of responsibility with that. 307 00:15:36,770 --> 00:15:39,500 They know it's amazing and they know it's worth fighting for and 308 00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:41,210 we're serving for and giving back. 309 00:15:41,278 --> 00:15:45,448 I definitely, there, there is a lot, a lot of people get the idea wrong. 310 00:15:46,078 --> 00:15:49,858 Just because you have the freedom to do things doesn't mean there 311 00:15:49,858 --> 00:15:53,132 aren't, ethics and morals that govern what you do with that. 312 00:15:53,132 --> 00:15:53,384 Right. 313 00:15:53,714 --> 00:15:55,794 I have the freedom to go to work sick. 314 00:15:56,624 --> 00:16:01,844 I don't, because I find it unethical to put my coworkers at risk just because 315 00:16:01,874 --> 00:16:03,834 I can't afford to take a day off. 316 00:16:03,861 --> 00:16:05,841 I actually got into a fight several years with a guy. 317 00:16:05,871 --> 00:16:09,741 I go back before I had paid time off when I was still working construction. 318 00:16:09,741 --> 00:16:13,011 I actually got into a fight with a coworker of that because he 319 00:16:13,016 --> 00:16:14,751 came into work sick as a dog. 320 00:16:14,751 --> 00:16:16,341 He's like, Man, I can't afford to take time off. 321 00:16:17,031 --> 00:16:20,931 I was like, None of the rest of us can either man, knock out half the crew. 322 00:16:22,881 --> 00:16:27,411 Like literally knocked out half our crew for a week and Madam Bus could 323 00:16:27,411 --> 00:16:28,551 afford to take time off either. 324 00:16:28,551 --> 00:16:31,693 So yeah, no, there's a great deal of responsibility comes 325 00:16:31,693 --> 00:16:33,553 with that kind of freedom. 326 00:16:33,553 --> 00:16:34,663 And I love the Fast and Furious. 327 00:16:34,663 --> 00:16:36,073 My daughters were joking about that. 328 00:16:36,463 --> 00:16:37,843 They've never seen the Fast and Furious. 329 00:16:37,843 --> 00:16:44,083 They're seven and 10, but on some sitcom they made fun of going family, right? 330 00:16:44,083 --> 00:16:44,743 The been diesel bit. 331 00:16:45,793 --> 00:16:48,975 And so my 10 year old was walking around the other day going, We're family. 332 00:16:50,775 --> 00:16:52,035 You've never even seen the movie, Honey. 333 00:16:52,035 --> 00:16:53,195 She's like, But I seen that part. 334 00:16:53,210 --> 00:16:56,976 But I always tell people there's the family you're born with and 335 00:16:56,976 --> 00:16:58,686 you may get a really great deal. 336 00:16:59,016 --> 00:17:00,366 You may have an amazing family. 337 00:17:00,371 --> 00:17:03,576 I was very blessed to have a very tight knit family that was always supportive. 338 00:17:03,576 --> 00:17:04,296 And there for me. 339 00:17:04,896 --> 00:17:07,326 I know a lot of people who got raw into the stick on that. 340 00:17:07,866 --> 00:17:13,566 But then there's the family you surround yourself with that are 341 00:17:13,566 --> 00:17:16,666 an extension of that blood family or maybe a replacement or both. 342 00:17:16,696 --> 00:17:20,416 I have several friends around my house that are aunts and uncles, even though 343 00:17:20,416 --> 00:17:24,676 they're not blood related because they're at my house more than my family is. 344 00:17:25,906 --> 00:17:26,476 I got two of 'em. 345 00:17:26,476 --> 00:17:30,226 They have stockings at my house come Christmas time because as far as my 346 00:17:30,226 --> 00:17:34,722 kids are concerned, they're as uncle and aunt as their blood uncle and aunts are. 347 00:17:35,592 --> 00:17:37,230 So yeah, I think you have that. 348 00:17:37,230 --> 00:17:38,501 You can always find that family. 349 00:17:38,501 --> 00:17:41,080 Just surround yourself with so I love the ideas. 350 00:17:41,170 --> 00:17:41,860 Yeah, absolutely. 351 00:17:41,860 --> 00:17:42,280 I'm loving it. 352 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,390 Now can I ask you an off question, slightly off topic. 353 00:17:47,110 --> 00:17:47,470 Sure. 354 00:17:47,740 --> 00:17:50,470 You work with your wife in this business, right? 355 00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:51,250 Mm-hmm. 356 00:17:51,430 --> 00:17:55,390 now as a man who also shares his business with his wife, right? 357 00:17:55,390 --> 00:17:57,460 My wife and I are equal partners in the business. 358 00:17:57,538 --> 00:18:01,888 I run into a lot of people who can't even imagine having to 359 00:18:01,888 --> 00:18:03,328 try and do that relationship. 360 00:18:03,808 --> 00:18:05,188 I don't find it really difficult. 361 00:18:05,193 --> 00:18:05,578 To you. 362 00:18:07,438 --> 00:18:09,238 It depends on what we're trying to do. 363 00:18:11,248 --> 00:18:11,578 Yeah. 364 00:18:12,058 --> 00:18:12,478 Should, yeah. 365 00:18:12,478 --> 00:18:13,528 How about, how about for yourself? 366 00:18:13,528 --> 00:18:15,768 When you say equal partners, how do you share the load? 367 00:18:15,835 --> 00:18:19,612 So under my company umbrella, the Fallible Man llc, we actually 368 00:18:19,642 --> 00:18:22,131 have DBAs on two other businesses. 369 00:18:22,131 --> 00:18:23,691 My wife does bookkeeping on the side. 370 00:18:24,831 --> 00:18:25,101 Okay. 371 00:18:25,431 --> 00:18:30,861 And so right now actually, we're at a stage where her bookkeeping is actually 372 00:18:30,861 --> 00:18:32,431 paying for the company entirely. 373 00:18:32,431 --> 00:18:36,930 That's the only income we have generated from this, except for the occasional 374 00:18:36,930 --> 00:18:38,040 sell of a t-shirt or something. 375 00:18:38,156 --> 00:18:40,376 Which is still very rare as we're growing, right? 376 00:18:40,376 --> 00:18:44,216 We're still very small, trying to get some marketing advertising going this 377 00:18:44,216 --> 00:18:46,187 year and spread awareness about the brand. 378 00:18:46,247 --> 00:18:50,987 But the majority of the brand is being entirely funded by my wife. 379 00:18:51,617 --> 00:18:55,367 She doesn't do a lot of the production that I do, but she's 380 00:18:55,372 --> 00:18:57,047 actually usually on these interviews. 381 00:18:57,184 --> 00:18:58,346 My mother lives with us. 382 00:18:58,346 --> 00:19:02,382 My father passes last year and my mother lives with us and she usually watches 383 00:19:02,382 --> 00:19:03,882 the kids when I'm recording interviews. 384 00:19:04,872 --> 00:19:09,312 And so my wife is usually actually here in the interview doing all 385 00:19:09,312 --> 00:19:12,402 the screen switching and all the engineering for the interview, and 386 00:19:12,402 --> 00:19:16,032 she does all the inter engineering on my live streams and stuff like that. 387 00:19:16,082 --> 00:19:21,534 Some of the camera work on some of my other videos, so this is, all 388 00:19:21,534 --> 00:19:25,504 of our roles don't overlap, but she is neck deep in this with me. 389 00:19:25,513 --> 00:19:29,413 She also does a lot of the finance work on the back end of the business. 390 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,424 We sit down and have. 391 00:19:31,519 --> 00:19:34,579 Major administrative discussions on our date nights when we really 392 00:19:34,579 --> 00:19:35,959 shouldn't be talking business. 393 00:19:35,959 --> 00:19:39,949 But it's hard to not do when you have kids in your face the rest of the time. 394 00:19:40,439 --> 00:19:41,049 Mm-hmm. 395 00:19:41,129 --> 00:19:42,859 , but she also homeschools my kids. 396 00:19:43,219 --> 00:19:45,499 So right now she's homeschooling the girls. 397 00:19:46,159 --> 00:19:48,109 That's why she's not actually in interview right now. 398 00:19:48,147 --> 00:19:51,284 You know what, Brent, I should be interviewing you because my wife 399 00:19:51,284 --> 00:19:54,294 and I aren't doing nearly that much. 400 00:19:54,294 --> 00:19:59,897 Work because when I say my wife and I are in business together, the only legal 401 00:19:59,897 --> 00:20:03,827 official way that she's in my business is in our network marketing company. 402 00:20:03,827 --> 00:20:05,679 We're both on, we're both on the contract. 403 00:20:05,701 --> 00:20:07,877 We're both co-owners of that particular business. 404 00:20:08,177 --> 00:20:11,957 But when I say we work together, it's more along the lines of she keeps me account. 405 00:20:12,632 --> 00:20:14,749 She keeps me account because she knows what I do. 406 00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:18,499 She knows what I do inside and out, and whenever we're invited to speak, 407 00:20:18,679 --> 00:20:21,979 she's also invited to speak alongside me because we're pretty much a package. 408 00:20:22,027 --> 00:20:22,777 For the most part. 409 00:20:22,897 --> 00:20:25,207 She appears with me on some of the podcasts. 410 00:20:25,207 --> 00:20:27,806 She keeps the finances in check and all that. 411 00:20:27,811 --> 00:20:32,336 But in terms of the technical stuff, she is not a techie. 412 00:20:32,336 --> 00:20:33,356 I'm not a techie either. 413 00:20:33,356 --> 00:20:34,886 I'm figuring all this stuff out. 414 00:20:34,939 --> 00:20:38,543 , when I was asking you earlier about how this whole software works in E cam and 415 00:20:38,543 --> 00:20:40,913 all that, I like to keep things simple. 416 00:20:41,033 --> 00:20:41,123 Mm-hmm. 417 00:20:41,368 --> 00:20:44,598 as much as possible because my wife is really you say that 418 00:20:44,704 --> 00:20:46,064 yours homeschools your kids. 419 00:20:46,064 --> 00:20:50,294 My, my son's two years old and he's basically a teenager at this point, and he 420 00:20:50,294 --> 00:20:53,024 is just requiring her full-time attention. 421 00:20:53,354 --> 00:20:56,084 And, I mean, this was something that we agreed on. 422 00:20:56,579 --> 00:21:00,045 You know, obviously when we were still dating we made it really clear what 423 00:21:00,045 --> 00:21:03,594 roles we want to play in each other's lives as husband and wife and her. 424 00:21:03,594 --> 00:21:06,594 It's really being the stay at home mom primarily and taking care of 425 00:21:06,594 --> 00:21:09,534 the kids, rearing the kids and supporting me and my ventures. 426 00:21:09,594 --> 00:21:13,070 And she just so happened to be the same person who introduced me into 427 00:21:13,070 --> 00:21:14,330 the world of entrepreneurship. 428 00:21:14,330 --> 00:21:18,482 So she has that, guiding hand of sorts, but man, I can't imagine our 429 00:21:18,482 --> 00:21:23,222 lives doing everything that you're doing now together, , while raising. 430 00:21:23,222 --> 00:21:24,362 You have two girls, right? 431 00:21:24,452 --> 00:21:24,692 Yeah. 432 00:21:24,992 --> 00:21:25,532 Seven and 10. 433 00:21:26,642 --> 00:21:27,722 It's off to you, man. 434 00:21:28,502 --> 00:21:29,432 , I should be interviewing you. 435 00:21:29,432 --> 00:21:31,412 You should come on my show and tell me your secrets. 436 00:21:31,592 --> 00:21:32,072 I anytime, 437 00:21:32,072 --> 00:21:32,282 man. 438 00:21:32,287 --> 00:21:35,972 I don't know I got any secrets, but the answer is you just 439 00:21:35,972 --> 00:21:37,352 learn to make it work, right? 440 00:21:37,592 --> 00:21:37,922 Yep. 441 00:21:38,732 --> 00:21:39,212 Always. 442 00:21:39,512 --> 00:21:40,112 Sarah. 443 00:21:40,117 --> 00:21:41,222 Sarah's not a techie. 444 00:21:41,282 --> 00:21:45,131 I actually work in the IT industry for my normal nine to five job. 445 00:21:45,701 --> 00:21:49,211 And so, you know, I taught her how to do stuff and I 446 00:21:49,211 --> 00:21:50,691 purposely made software choices. 447 00:21:51,716 --> 00:21:55,496 Like this, this is a super user friendly interface for this software. 448 00:21:55,496 --> 00:21:57,986 That's one of the reasons that's one of their foundations at the 449 00:21:57,986 --> 00:22:00,656 company for Stream Yard is Right. 450 00:22:00,806 --> 00:22:04,807 Keeping things super, super user friendly so that anybody can 451 00:22:04,807 --> 00:22:06,067 use their software as the idea. 452 00:22:06,717 --> 00:22:12,707 But no, we we have our roles and she, like I said, she usually 453 00:22:12,707 --> 00:22:14,127 is on doing the engineering. 454 00:22:14,127 --> 00:22:19,360 My mom is outta town visiting my sister, so she can't be here. 455 00:22:19,365 --> 00:22:22,211 She's my mom helps out when she's doing something like this with me, 456 00:22:22,961 --> 00:22:24,981 but, you know, we make it work. 457 00:22:24,981 --> 00:22:26,545 And that's been a huge blessing. 458 00:22:26,545 --> 00:22:31,820 Having my mom move in with us has really, actually, effectively made it a little 459 00:22:31,820 --> 00:22:33,920 easier for my wife to take a bigger role. 460 00:22:34,850 --> 00:22:35,130 Mm-hmm. 461 00:22:35,130 --> 00:22:35,453 . All right. 462 00:22:35,474 --> 00:22:39,969 I just had to ask, I don't meet many other guys who are like doing the 463 00:22:39,969 --> 00:22:41,829 partnership thing with their spouse. 464 00:22:42,159 --> 00:22:42,429 Right. 465 00:22:42,435 --> 00:22:44,833 It's an interesting world when you start doing it. 466 00:22:45,673 --> 00:22:45,925 Yeah. 467 00:22:45,956 --> 00:22:49,688 And it is interesting because I think that, I don't know how many other guys 468 00:22:49,688 --> 00:22:54,428 you met where both spouses work in the business, but I think this conversation 469 00:22:54,428 --> 00:22:58,267 right now is proving that every spouse has their own dynamic, both on a official 470 00:22:58,267 --> 00:23:02,142 legal level and on a, relationship level and skill level as well. 471 00:23:02,170 --> 00:23:05,099 I think you learn something every time you ask somebody, whether a man or a 472 00:23:05,099 --> 00:23:08,819 woman, how they work with their spouse, because I think everybody has their own 473 00:23:08,824 --> 00:23:10,728 style that they just have to slide into. 474 00:23:10,738 --> 00:23:13,648 Both my wife and I are still getting used to this whole setup, cuz it's 475 00:23:13,648 --> 00:23:16,605 only now that we're really doubling down on the sovereign brand. 476 00:23:17,535 --> 00:23:19,644 And now that our two year old is you. 477 00:23:20,454 --> 00:23:24,804 Transitioning from the terrible twos into the terroristic threes . It's 478 00:23:24,804 --> 00:23:27,873 gonna be a whole host of challenges that are coming up later on. 479 00:23:27,873 --> 00:23:30,183 So yeah, so making it work. 480 00:23:30,183 --> 00:23:34,768 And I think the other side of that also is you have to learn to adapt. 481 00:23:35,698 --> 00:23:35,938 Yeah. 482 00:23:36,358 --> 00:23:37,498 Especially if you have kids. 483 00:23:37,498 --> 00:23:39,058 I mean, particularly if you have kids, 484 00:23:40,318 --> 00:23:41,092 it's entertaining. 485 00:23:41,182 --> 00:23:44,302 Cuz I, I have to be cognizant, like my 10 year old watches my 486 00:23:44,302 --> 00:23:45,622 live streams on Monday night. 487 00:23:45,627 --> 00:23:48,532 I tell you all live stream on Mondays, my 10 year old sitting 488 00:23:48,532 --> 00:23:49,732 there watching the live stream. 489 00:23:50,692 --> 00:23:53,182 My, my seven year old's not like really interested yet. 490 00:23:53,242 --> 00:23:54,292 She's like, I see you all the time. 491 00:23:54,292 --> 00:23:54,622 Dad. 492 00:23:55,072 --> 00:23:58,192 My 10 year old gets into it like, she loves to watch the live streams. 493 00:23:58,942 --> 00:24:00,442 In fact, I had to tell her she has to stay off. 494 00:24:00,442 --> 00:24:03,202 She can't like roll for giveaways and stuff like that cuz sometimes I 495 00:24:03,202 --> 00:24:04,552 give away stuff in my live streams. 496 00:24:04,552 --> 00:24:06,592 And she won once. 497 00:24:06,742 --> 00:24:12,202 I was like, maybe you can't roll on our own merchandise, unwritten rule. 498 00:24:12,202 --> 00:24:15,622 You, you can't roll on our own merchandise when I'm trying to give it away to people. 499 00:24:17,407 --> 00:24:20,849 But yeah, so I have to, it makes me, it keeps me on my toes with it. 500 00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:22,209 Mm-hmm. 501 00:24:22,469 --> 00:24:25,878 . And actually, we're gonna get into entrepreneurial 502 00:24:26,508 --> 00:24:27,918 training with children later. 503 00:24:28,428 --> 00:24:31,518 But guys, before we go any farther, we've been getting to know Don in the first 504 00:24:31,518 --> 00:24:35,358 half of the show and kind of figuring out who he is and what he's about, 505 00:24:35,388 --> 00:24:37,578 and what he is bringing to the table. 506 00:24:37,578 --> 00:24:40,788 Today, the second half of the show, we're gonna dig farther into 507 00:24:40,788 --> 00:24:45,558 his core pillars of faith, family freedom, business, and fatherhood. 508 00:24:45,888 --> 00:24:48,348 We're gonna roll to our sponsor and we'll be right back with more from Don. 509 00:24:48,498 --> 00:24:54,048 I'm calling on All men right now to stand up and stand against this horrific crime. 510 00:24:54,468 --> 00:24:58,338 It is estimated over 300,000 children are being sex trafficked in the 511 00:24:58,338 --> 00:25:00,468 United States alone every single day. 512 00:25:00,888 --> 00:25:02,298 I want you to get on your social media. 513 00:25:02,303 --> 00:25:06,458 I want you to follow savinginnocence.org or fightforme.net. 514 00:25:07,008 --> 00:25:11,388 Both these charities are working to end child trafficking in 515 00:25:11,388 --> 00:25:12,978 the United States and abroad. 516 00:25:13,368 --> 00:25:14,178 You can donate at. 517 00:25:15,668 --> 00:25:21,938 www.thefallibleman.com/shop and buy our end human trafficking merchandise 518 00:25:22,358 --> 00:25:26,938 and all proceeds will be given indefinitely to savinginnocence.org. 519 00:25:27,258 --> 00:25:32,148 You can also go to www.savinginnocence.org/donate and 520 00:25:32,148 --> 00:25:35,328 donate directly to Saving Innocence Men. 521 00:25:35,328 --> 00:25:39,888 It is time for us to fight and stop this horrible thing known as human trafficking. 522 00:25:40,248 --> 00:25:41,178 And we're back guys. 523 00:25:41,418 --> 00:25:44,238 We're here with Don about talking Faith, Family Freedom. 524 00:25:44,628 --> 00:25:46,908 We talked about that some a little and got time to know him a little bit. 525 00:25:47,028 --> 00:25:51,138 We're gonna get into how that applies in business and fatherhood and even 526 00:25:51,138 --> 00:25:52,728 more in this second half of the show. 527 00:25:53,208 --> 00:25:56,718 Now, Don, to start off the second half of the show, what purchase 528 00:25:56,718 --> 00:25:59,478 of a hundred dollars or less have you made in the last year? 529 00:25:59,478 --> 00:26:01,518 This has the most meaningful impact on your life? 530 00:26:02,718 --> 00:26:04,578 Oh, that's a, That is a hard one. 531 00:26:05,418 --> 00:26:08,328 That is a hard one because we're really. 532 00:26:09,708 --> 00:26:12,648 We really haven't been spending a lot in the past two years, 533 00:26:12,648 --> 00:26:13,968 to be totally honest with you. 534 00:26:13,968 --> 00:26:17,042 I don't wanna go too much into this because there's still a 535 00:26:17,047 --> 00:26:18,480 lot in the air, at this point. 536 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,320 But we are planning on switching countries again, and so we're, putting 537 00:26:22,325 --> 00:26:24,030 preparations in place for that. 538 00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:29,501 And I think that in today's crazy world, as a new father doing what's best for 539 00:26:29,501 --> 00:26:33,101 your family is the, obviously the most important thing in the world to me. 540 00:26:33,122 --> 00:26:36,072 We are putting things in place and yeah that's probably the most 541 00:26:36,072 --> 00:26:39,466 meaningful purchase I made is taking us one step closer to our big move. 542 00:26:39,466 --> 00:26:42,234 Probably not the usual answer that you get to this question, is it? 543 00:26:42,534 --> 00:26:42,924 No, 544 00:26:42,924 --> 00:26:43,614 but you know what? 545 00:26:43,614 --> 00:26:45,144 Every, everybody's very individual. 546 00:26:45,149 --> 00:26:47,104 That's one of the fun things about asking that question. 547 00:26:47,123 --> 00:26:48,083 I get a lot of books. 548 00:26:48,563 --> 00:26:52,627 I've gotten some shoes but I get, I got a pair of shorts once a guy 549 00:26:52,627 --> 00:26:55,447 raved about a pair of shorts he bought, like he lives in them now. 550 00:26:56,587 --> 00:26:58,927 We turned around about like four more pairs after the first one. 551 00:26:58,927 --> 00:27:00,877 I was like, Wow, those are impressive shorts. 552 00:27:01,227 --> 00:27:01,787 Uhhuh. 553 00:27:01,837 --> 00:27:05,215 I never liked any clothes that much, it's people are very individual, 554 00:27:05,215 --> 00:27:09,132 so it gives people a chance to share Also, it gives people ideas. 555 00:27:09,132 --> 00:27:10,541 It's like, Oh, what could benefit me? 556 00:27:11,261 --> 00:27:14,261 Maybe a change of scenery is exactly what a lot of people need. 557 00:27:14,371 --> 00:27:18,031 I've always been amazed how few people actually move around. 558 00:27:19,861 --> 00:27:20,971 I moved my whole life. 559 00:27:20,971 --> 00:27:22,801 I've grown up, I've lived all over the United States. 560 00:27:22,907 --> 00:27:26,777 I haven't done a lot of international travel, Mexico, Canada, but I've lived 561 00:27:26,777 --> 00:27:28,367 from coast to coast in the United States. 562 00:27:28,517 --> 00:27:31,607 And the amount of people that I meet who have never been outside of like 563 00:27:31,607 --> 00:27:34,907 a, you know, hundred mile radius of where they were born, it's just 564 00:27:34,907 --> 00:27:37,637 like, maybe you should try that. 565 00:27:37,727 --> 00:27:40,277 Just . Yeah. 566 00:27:40,727 --> 00:27:41,297 No judgment. 567 00:27:41,302 --> 00:27:43,037 Just maybe, maybe you should give that a, your eye. 568 00:27:43,037 --> 00:27:43,157 Yeah. 569 00:27:43,587 --> 00:27:44,197 Mm-hmm. 570 00:27:44,897 --> 00:27:48,008 . And I think everybody needs a little bit of travel in their lives nowadays. 571 00:27:48,728 --> 00:27:48,938 Oh 572 00:27:48,938 --> 00:27:49,238 yeah. 573 00:27:49,358 --> 00:27:49,638 Yeah. 574 00:27:49,638 --> 00:27:51,808 We've all been pen up the last couple years anyway. 575 00:27:51,808 --> 00:27:54,117 I'm thinking some restrictions are starting to ease up 576 00:27:54,122 --> 00:27:55,057 a little bit around here. 577 00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:58,679 I'm thinking the campsite are gonna be packed this year with people 578 00:27:58,679 --> 00:28:00,089 just trying to get outta the house. 579 00:28:01,559 --> 00:28:02,789 So yeah. 580 00:28:03,179 --> 00:28:09,216 Don ask you one of the things and I generally, it's so funny cuz I was going 581 00:28:09,216 --> 00:28:14,526 through your bio on the service we use to get together on this and I generally try 582 00:28:14,526 --> 00:28:17,316 and ask my own very specific questions. 583 00:28:17,454 --> 00:28:20,544 But some of the questions that you listed that you're always ready to answer, 584 00:28:21,144 --> 00:28:25,674 were like, Man, I don't wanna just ask him the questions that he listed, but 585 00:28:25,704 --> 00:28:27,624 I really want to ask that question. 586 00:28:28,854 --> 00:28:33,354 So let me ask you this one that caught my attention, Why should we 587 00:28:33,354 --> 00:28:36,774 be proud and unapologetic about our faith even in our professional lives? 588 00:28:36,774 --> 00:28:39,414 Cause there's a lot of people who are not comfortable mixing the two. 589 00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:46,359 Well, because I think the world is missing people who are un 590 00:28:46,419 --> 00:28:47,859 unapologetic about their faith. 591 00:28:48,099 --> 00:28:50,079 I mean, I don't really know another way to put it. 592 00:28:50,949 --> 00:28:55,719 I mean, I totally get it, and I'm probably super biased in the fact that 593 00:28:55,719 --> 00:28:59,175 I've never really held quote unquote real job for more than three months. 594 00:28:59,425 --> 00:29:03,865 So, you know, this whole, this whole facade, I'll just put it out there. 595 00:29:03,865 --> 00:29:08,585 I think it's a facade of professionalism, hiding the things that most matter to you. 596 00:29:08,585 --> 00:29:12,176 And I mean, faith, faith is, faith is not like a political thing. 597 00:29:12,229 --> 00:29:13,094 People always say that. 598 00:29:13,094 --> 00:29:16,165 Two, the two things you should never discuss in public or, in, in the 599 00:29:16,165 --> 00:29:18,465 workplace or, religion and politics. 600 00:29:18,483 --> 00:29:21,723 I can sort of understand politics, especially now, but I don't 601 00:29:21,723 --> 00:29:24,453 see why you shouldn't be loud and proud about your faith. 602 00:29:24,993 --> 00:29:29,866 I don't see what's so controversial about that unless you're in adherent of some. 603 00:29:29,935 --> 00:29:30,982 Cult or whatever. 604 00:29:31,222 --> 00:29:34,187 But I think, especially if you're Christian when I put that question out 605 00:29:34,187 --> 00:29:38,691 there about are you unapologetic about your faith as a challenge to people who 606 00:29:38,781 --> 00:29:42,259 want to express it but aren't currently really what are you trying to hide? 607 00:29:42,919 --> 00:29:45,959 What are you trying to hide about your belief in the Lord? 608 00:29:45,959 --> 00:29:48,966 I think there's nothing to lose in everything to be gained no 609 00:29:48,966 --> 00:29:50,886 matter what your profession is. 610 00:29:50,886 --> 00:29:53,870 And I understand some places like the clamp down on that more than others, 611 00:29:53,875 --> 00:29:58,550 but when I say be loud and proud about what you believe in, about the God that 612 00:29:58,550 --> 00:30:01,730 you believe in, about the faith that you subscribe to, I'm not saying preach 613 00:30:01,730 --> 00:30:03,380 and try to convert your coworkers. 614 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,060 I'm not saying that at all. 615 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:11,981 In fact, whenever I ask people this question people on my podcast, Are 616 00:30:11,981 --> 00:30:14,441 a lot loud and proud about their faith and they're in business. 617 00:30:14,921 --> 00:30:16,181 I always say, How do you do it? 618 00:30:16,481 --> 00:30:21,778 How do you find the confidence and the motivation and the openness 619 00:30:21,868 --> 00:30:23,338 to talk about your faith openly. 620 00:30:23,638 --> 00:30:26,848 And then they say, they normally say something along the lines of, 621 00:30:26,998 --> 00:30:29,488 I, because I don't really talk about it, that's what they say. 622 00:30:29,518 --> 00:30:34,048 I don't really talk about my faith so much as I live my faith out. 623 00:30:34,143 --> 00:30:38,396 Reminds me of one of my friends when Kimmy and I were living in Atlanta and we're 624 00:30:38,396 --> 00:30:43,105 a part of this church group called Folk la and the members like to gather around 625 00:30:43,105 --> 00:30:47,231 during our meetings and talk about what they did too illustrate or demonstrate 626 00:30:47,231 --> 00:30:48,869 their faith in their day to day lives. 627 00:30:49,109 --> 00:30:52,499 And there, there was this one guy, Egyptian guy, and he works as a 628 00:30:52,499 --> 00:30:54,119 server, as a waiter in a restaurant. 629 00:30:54,869 --> 00:30:56,009 Never talks about his faith. 630 00:30:56,069 --> 00:31:00,106 And you'd think that as an Egyptian guy, he'd be probably Muslim or something 631 00:31:00,106 --> 00:31:04,396 like that, but he just happens to be a Catholic and he never talks about it. 632 00:31:04,576 --> 00:31:08,056 But one day a regular at the restaurant just tapped him on the shoulder 633 00:31:08,446 --> 00:31:11,326 and then said, Hey Raj, we wouldn't happen to be a Christian, would you? 634 00:31:12,526 --> 00:31:17,345 And I mean, kind of speaks for itself, doesn't, and that's probably one Christian 635 00:31:17,345 --> 00:31:19,265 recognizing the actions of another. 636 00:31:19,265 --> 00:31:23,495 But I think the point still stands that when I say live out your 637 00:31:23,495 --> 00:31:27,485 faith, I don't mean preach from the heavens and try to convert people. 638 00:31:27,695 --> 00:31:30,155 I'm just saying live it out practically. 639 00:31:30,155 --> 00:31:31,484 There's I had an amazing. 640 00:31:32,489 --> 00:31:37,273 Who talks about on my podcast, who talks about living, the art of Catholicism on 641 00:31:37,273 --> 00:31:38,983 a practical level in your day to day. 642 00:31:39,313 --> 00:31:42,680 And I don't wanna keep this super exclusive to Catholics, but obviously 643 00:31:42,685 --> 00:31:45,546 being a Catholic, it's, the only ex experience I can speak from. 644 00:31:45,566 --> 00:31:49,630 But we have a very prominent figure a saint in Catholicism. 645 00:31:49,630 --> 00:31:51,519 His name is Jose Maria Riva. 646 00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:56,529 And his entire approach, his entire ministry was all about office day 647 00:31:56,679 --> 00:32:00,909 work of God, putting God in all of your work, no matter how small it is. 648 00:32:00,909 --> 00:32:04,911 If you're a plumber, when you fix those sinks, put God in every single 649 00:32:04,911 --> 00:32:08,841 project, no matter what it is, and people will sense it off of you. 650 00:32:08,961 --> 00:32:11,751 It just creates a different aura around you. 651 00:32:11,751 --> 00:32:16,701 People might not be able to put their finger on it, but somebody who puts God 652 00:32:16,701 --> 00:32:18,561 into all of their work, who prays before. 653 00:32:19,371 --> 00:32:22,431 Every important action that they take, every important decisions that they 654 00:32:22,431 --> 00:32:26,031 make, even if they don't proclaim it out loud, people will feel that. 655 00:32:26,271 --> 00:32:27,231 And you'll feel it too. 656 00:32:27,321 --> 00:32:30,541 You'll feel more confident, you'll be more humble. 657 00:32:30,541 --> 00:32:34,244 Your days will find, you'll find meaning in your days. 658 00:32:34,244 --> 00:32:36,188 Especially people who are on the grind. 659 00:32:36,258 --> 00:32:38,868 People who are employees, people who are working in corporate. 660 00:32:39,648 --> 00:32:44,117 One great way just from speaking to a lot of people I know who unabashedly 661 00:32:44,117 --> 00:32:47,479 live out their faith the best way to really put more meaning into their 662 00:32:47,479 --> 00:32:52,099 day to day work is by making sure that God, that Jesus is at the forefront 663 00:32:52,099 --> 00:32:53,809 of every single thing that they do. 664 00:32:53,809 --> 00:32:58,369 And if they do that, what they do, even if it's routine, even if they do 665 00:32:58,369 --> 00:33:01,159 it every single day over and over and over again, it's not gonna be boring. 666 00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:05,337 There's something new to unearth uncover from each of those tiny, 667 00:33:05,342 --> 00:33:07,167 seemingly insignificant experiences. 668 00:33:07,172 --> 00:33:09,117 So I hope that answers your question. 669 00:33:09,477 --> 00:33:10,707 No, no, that's a great answer. 670 00:33:11,187 --> 00:33:13,055 I Was enjoying the explanation. 671 00:33:13,055 --> 00:33:16,619 Cuz I think a lot of, I think that's the biggest fear for a lot of believers 672 00:33:17,339 --> 00:33:21,803 is that's how they translate it in their head is, oh if I have to, live 673 00:33:21,808 --> 00:33:26,466 my faith out loud in my workspace, that means that need to be, Mr. 674 00:33:26,466 --> 00:33:27,636 Rule keep right. 675 00:33:27,664 --> 00:33:30,138 I need to be like, Oh, you guys shouldn't be gossiping about that. 676 00:33:30,678 --> 00:33:34,008 Oh you shouldn't say that. 677 00:33:34,054 --> 00:33:38,194 People have this idea that we gotta become police for everybody else's 678 00:33:38,194 --> 00:33:42,364 actions, or that during our break time we need to stand up on the desk and 679 00:33:42,364 --> 00:33:44,628 start preaching or something like that. 680 00:33:44,665 --> 00:33:49,165 I think a lot of people have a lot of confusion about what living 681 00:33:49,170 --> 00:33:51,305 your faith out loud translates to. 682 00:33:51,305 --> 00:33:53,395 Yeah, no, that's this very astute observation. 683 00:33:53,395 --> 00:33:53,785 I think. 684 00:33:54,805 --> 00:33:58,465 So you said that taking a stand. 685 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:05,395 is key to making your brand stand out and being different. 686 00:34:06,155 --> 00:34:06,765 Mm-hmm. 687 00:34:06,955 --> 00:34:07,645 people's eyes. 688 00:34:08,395 --> 00:34:09,415 Can you elaborate on that a little bit? 689 00:34:11,455 --> 00:34:15,506 I think that's a good question to follow up on the on the faith thing, because 690 00:34:15,506 --> 00:34:16,869 that's really what it's all about. 691 00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:22,599 Whatever is most important to you, your value system, your beliefs, if you're 692 00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:25,869 unashamed about it on your platform, that's what makes you stand out. 693 00:34:25,869 --> 00:34:31,209 If we're gonna confine this topic to succeeding as a brand, as a personal 694 00:34:31,214 --> 00:34:33,939 brand, especially if you're an entrepreneur, if you have services 695 00:34:33,992 --> 00:34:37,712 or products to offer to the world, the thing that differentiates you 696 00:34:37,712 --> 00:34:42,752 the most is whatever it is that you stand for, and even better, whatever 697 00:34:42,752 --> 00:34:45,962 it is that you fight for people. 698 00:34:46,112 --> 00:34:48,182 I mean, if you offer anything. 699 00:34:48,542 --> 00:34:51,278 In the world, even if you're just a so-called influencer. 700 00:34:51,315 --> 00:34:54,621 If if you just have a podcast and that's all you have and you just do it for 701 00:34:54,621 --> 00:34:56,181 fun, you're not even selling anything. 702 00:34:56,931 --> 00:35:00,951 If you wanna gain more exposure, if you want more eyes and ears on your work, 703 00:35:00,951 --> 00:35:04,911 which obviously everybody does, what's gonna differentiate you from the other? 704 00:35:04,967 --> 00:35:07,220 I don't even know what the number is anymore of all the 705 00:35:07,220 --> 00:35:08,600 podcasts that are available. 706 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,055 And then we were talking about this before we hit record as well. 707 00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,549 There's a lot of podcasts, but how many of them are actually active? 708 00:35:13,819 --> 00:35:16,549 But the ones that are active, they tend to be really good. 709 00:35:16,579 --> 00:35:19,729 If people stick to it, they sort of found their voice. 710 00:35:19,969 --> 00:35:25,669 And so to compete in this marketplace, and this is beyond podcast, but this is any 711 00:35:25,729 --> 00:35:28,549 public persona that you project online. 712 00:35:28,909 --> 00:35:30,739 There's so much noise out there. 713 00:35:30,949 --> 00:35:32,179 What's gonna differentiate you? 714 00:35:32,184 --> 00:35:34,159 What's gonna attract the right tribe to you? 715 00:35:34,849 --> 00:35:37,412 It's when you're unashamed of what you believe in. 716 00:35:37,772 --> 00:35:39,212 Otherwise you become generic. 717 00:35:39,522 --> 00:35:42,542 You, you preach the same message, all that surface stuff. 718 00:35:42,542 --> 00:35:44,762 Everybody set all the surface stuff already. 719 00:35:46,097 --> 00:35:51,638 The deeper, the deeper substance that really provides flavor, provides 720 00:35:51,638 --> 00:35:54,899 character to whatever it is that you're talking about as a personal brand. 721 00:35:55,319 --> 00:35:57,640 That's what you need to take a stand for. 722 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:04,048 And going beyond that, it's important when you have a brand online, that it's 723 00:36:04,053 --> 00:36:07,738 even more effective if you don't just stand for a certain set of beliefs. 724 00:36:07,738 --> 00:36:12,898 But if you actually have a fight in some issue, and it doesn't have 725 00:36:12,898 --> 00:36:15,418 to be controversial, it doesn't have to be political, it doesn't 726 00:36:15,418 --> 00:36:17,128 necessarily have to be religious. 727 00:36:17,608 --> 00:36:20,798 If you, So here's a practical example we're using right now. 728 00:36:21,038 --> 00:36:22,358 I'm in the network marketing industry. 729 00:36:22,358 --> 00:36:23,888 That's one of my, that's one of my businesses. 730 00:36:25,118 --> 00:36:29,798 My fight is against the traditional network marketing world. 731 00:36:30,863 --> 00:36:34,103 There's a lot of podcasts out there, a lot of brands out there where people 732 00:36:34,103 --> 00:36:38,999 teach you the usual stuff, how to sell, how to talk to people, how to prospect, 733 00:36:38,999 --> 00:36:42,929 how to find new candidates to sell to or to become distributors as part of 734 00:36:42,929 --> 00:36:45,209 your down line that's been set to death. 735 00:36:45,209 --> 00:36:48,699 And there are a lot of amazing people who already talk about that stuff and 736 00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:54,179 what I do differently and not like I'm the biggest in the world at this. 737 00:36:54,207 --> 00:36:58,646 There's far more, amazing people who are along the same lines as me, but my fight, 738 00:36:58,796 --> 00:37:02,336 and that's what's starting to really grow the momentum in my personal brand for your 739 00:37:02,341 --> 00:37:05,876 sovereign down line, is the fact that I'm against traditional network marketing. 740 00:37:07,016 --> 00:37:11,616 My biggest message right now is basically the answer to this question. 741 00:37:11,619 --> 00:37:12,519 It's really two things. 742 00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:15,429 Number one, I'm not afraid to talk about the role of faith 743 00:37:15,434 --> 00:37:17,854 and the role of God in business. 744 00:37:17,914 --> 00:37:20,294 I talk about kingdom entrepreneurship a lot and. 745 00:37:21,604 --> 00:37:26,044 A lot of people talk about that, but my own lived experience with my faith and 746 00:37:26,044 --> 00:37:29,554 the fact that my wife is on board with me too, that adds a completely unique 747 00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:33,184 flavor, I think, to our brand that you can't really find anywhere else. 748 00:37:33,544 --> 00:37:35,854 And tied to that is what I mentioned earlier. 749 00:37:35,854 --> 00:37:37,414 I'm against traditional network marketing. 750 00:37:37,594 --> 00:37:40,534 I say because we have the power of the internet because it's so easy to start 751 00:37:40,534 --> 00:37:43,444 a podcast, a YouTube channel, a blog. 752 00:37:43,864 --> 00:37:48,064 Why would you go out and talk to people on the street and do that one by one 753 00:37:48,064 --> 00:37:52,804 every single day and risk rejection in your face every single day when 754 00:37:52,809 --> 00:37:55,504 you can create a brand and attract the right people to you instead? 755 00:37:55,509 --> 00:37:56,884 And that's available to anybody. 756 00:37:56,884 --> 00:37:59,134 You don't have to have a lot of tech skills to be able 757 00:37:59,134 --> 00:38:00,454 to start a brand right now. 758 00:38:00,754 --> 00:38:05,719 And so, I speak out a lot about why people are still sticking exclusively 759 00:38:06,229 --> 00:38:11,000 to traditional face to face cold calling and all of that, that has its place. 760 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,378 And I don't wanna get too deep into the, the industry, but that has its place. 761 00:38:14,378 --> 00:38:18,878 But I say use the power of the internet to build a modern, sovereign down line. 762 00:38:19,058 --> 00:38:23,858 So that change in my approach to building the business, coupled with 763 00:38:23,858 --> 00:38:29,168 my unique and particular beliefs alongside my wife, creates a brand, a 764 00:38:29,168 --> 00:38:33,728 network marketing personal brand for us that you won't find anywhere else. 765 00:38:33,728 --> 00:38:38,074 You can only find this flavor of of brand of a teaching 766 00:38:38,074 --> 00:38:40,014 style for me, for me in Kimmy. 767 00:38:40,264 --> 00:38:41,464 You won't find that anywhere else. 768 00:38:41,514 --> 00:38:45,709 So, I hope that sort of gets at the heart of what you're asking, that in 769 00:38:45,709 --> 00:38:50,119 order to differentiate yourself, the best way to do that is to stop being generic 770 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,769 and really say what's on your heart. 771 00:38:51,889 --> 00:38:55,459 And don't be afraid of attaching some sort of social message or some 772 00:38:55,459 --> 00:39:00,620 sort of controversy railing against what the mainstream or what people 773 00:39:00,620 --> 00:39:04,160 traditionally believe about a topic, and then that's gonna get eyeballs on you, 774 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,659 or we're all afraid of cancel culture, man. 775 00:39:07,319 --> 00:39:08,159 Oh, yeah, yeah. 776 00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:11,129 Cancel culture is live and well, everybody's afraid to 777 00:39:11,180 --> 00:39:11,570 Right. 778 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,910 They're like, I haven't even touched on cancel culture. 779 00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:15,258 But that is a big one too. 780 00:39:15,332 --> 00:39:17,192 Everybody's afraid to stand out. 781 00:39:17,252 --> 00:39:21,209 Cuz if you break the grain too much or in an unpopular opinion that 782 00:39:21,209 --> 00:39:22,589 might be the end to your channel. 783 00:39:22,589 --> 00:39:27,878 I'm a, I'm in a mentorship slash training program for YouTube 784 00:39:27,927 --> 00:39:29,277 called Video Ranking Academy. 785 00:39:29,307 --> 00:39:32,427 That's just a tremendous program if you're gonna be a YouTuber. 786 00:39:33,102 --> 00:39:33,852 But, mm-hmm. 787 00:39:34,092 --> 00:39:34,182 . Yeah. 788 00:39:34,362 --> 00:39:35,292 They say all the time. 789 00:39:35,297 --> 00:39:37,782 It's like you, you've got, don't be afraid to be controversial. 790 00:39:37,782 --> 00:39:39,325 You gotta bring you to the camera. 791 00:39:39,325 --> 00:39:41,009 You have to bring your individual. 792 00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:43,822 Cuz there are so many people trying to get on camera, if you're not 793 00:39:43,822 --> 00:39:45,367 you, you're just gonna fade out. 794 00:39:45,498 --> 00:39:47,986 And that includes, they're very open about their faith. 795 00:39:48,010 --> 00:39:50,673 And that's something that's very obvious in their program 796 00:39:50,703 --> 00:39:52,008 and the YouTube videos they do. 797 00:39:52,058 --> 00:39:54,437 That's one of the things they say is Look, this is who we are and 798 00:39:54,437 --> 00:39:55,787 we're not gonna pretend we're not. 799 00:39:56,237 --> 00:39:57,617 And if we're not for you, that's fine. 800 00:39:57,677 --> 00:39:58,937 But this is who we are. 801 00:39:59,237 --> 00:40:00,917 This is what makes us who we are. 802 00:40:01,637 --> 00:40:05,547 And I think so many people are afraid to even approach that. 803 00:40:05,567 --> 00:40:10,901 And just be, every, everybody wanted to be popular growing up, except a few people. 804 00:40:11,711 --> 00:40:14,141 Everybody still wants to be popular, let's face it. 805 00:40:14,169 --> 00:40:17,660 We, everybody still wants to have the mass approval. 806 00:40:17,663 --> 00:40:20,033 And so they're, everybody's afraid to say something that's gonna get 807 00:40:20,033 --> 00:40:25,373 'em canceled, or, Oh, you may not like this about me, or that about me. 808 00:40:25,373 --> 00:40:26,903 So I'm gonna put that to the side. 809 00:40:26,903 --> 00:40:30,233 And yeah, I think we get a lot of generic businesses that way. 810 00:40:31,553 --> 00:40:32,213 So yeah. 811 00:40:33,173 --> 00:40:36,803 Guys, if you're getting something out of this, do the social media thing. 812 00:40:36,803 --> 00:40:40,133 You know, I hate to ask you guys, it's the worst part of this whole job. 813 00:40:40,673 --> 00:40:44,633 Whatever platform you're following us on right now, hit the like button, 814 00:40:44,633 --> 00:40:50,783 subscribe, share this podcast, share the information about Don and what 815 00:40:50,783 --> 00:40:53,033 you're learning today and help us out. 816 00:40:53,038 --> 00:40:54,713 That's how we keep making videos like that. 817 00:40:54,983 --> 00:40:58,103 Now, Don, I wanna go in a totally different direction. 818 00:40:59,723 --> 00:41:03,625 You you said some interesting things in your bio that stuck out to me. 819 00:41:04,945 --> 00:41:07,885 Why do you believe homeschooling is the future That modern 820 00:41:07,890 --> 00:41:09,235 school is doing more harm 821 00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:09,775 than good. 822 00:41:12,595 --> 00:41:14,755 I think the question sort of answers itself. 823 00:41:14,755 --> 00:41:17,725 I think that the modern schooling system, and I'll be fair, I'll be fair, there 824 00:41:17,725 --> 00:41:19,285 are a lot of great schools out there. 825 00:41:19,675 --> 00:41:20,915 They're just kind of hard to find. 826 00:41:20,986 --> 00:41:23,236 I know that that's the case there in the west. 827 00:41:23,266 --> 00:41:27,294 Cuz I, I follow a lot of the cultural and political developments, let's 828 00:41:27,294 --> 00:41:29,405 say of in America and in Europe. 829 00:41:29,585 --> 00:41:32,915 But definitely here in the Philippines, it's kind of the same story. 830 00:41:32,962 --> 00:41:36,561 One story I like to tell is I remember when I was, I don't know how old I was, 831 00:41:36,561 --> 00:41:42,348 maybe 13 or so, I was visiting the US with family and my cousin at the time, she was 832 00:41:42,366 --> 00:41:45,409 six I think, and we were all in the car. 833 00:41:45,439 --> 00:41:46,219 We were going home. 834 00:41:46,489 --> 00:41:49,339 It was late at night and she was showing off her homework to her 835 00:41:49,344 --> 00:41:53,959 dad and she said, Hey dad, my homework today, I just finished it. 836 00:41:54,026 --> 00:41:58,152 We had to write, we had to look up the you know, a list of the 837 00:41:58,182 --> 00:42:00,642 top 10 universities in California. 838 00:42:01,317 --> 00:42:06,867 And this girl is, she was six at the time, and her dad was bragging all about 839 00:42:06,867 --> 00:42:10,377 it to, to the entire family, saying, Wow, the, the things that they teach 840 00:42:10,382 --> 00:42:12,117 our kids these days, she's so smart. 841 00:42:12,117 --> 00:42:15,657 She already knows at six years old what the top 10 universities in California are. 842 00:42:15,837 --> 00:42:17,307 What was I doing at six years old? 843 00:42:17,312 --> 00:42:20,397 I was playing in the river with my cousins and my friends. 844 00:42:20,997 --> 00:42:22,707 I was, Yeah. 845 00:42:22,707 --> 00:42:28,895 And in my 13 year old brain, even I could see the, what was wrong. 846 00:42:28,925 --> 00:42:33,005 I was thinking as you should be, you should be playing in the river with 847 00:42:33,010 --> 00:42:34,955 your friends at that age, you know? 848 00:42:34,955 --> 00:42:37,265 What are you doing at six years old looking up the top 849 00:42:37,265 --> 00:42:39,125 10 universities in California? 850 00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:43,520 Which by the way, will probably be a different list altogether by the time 851 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,870 you're ready to go to college anyway. 852 00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:49,236 But I think that, and by the way, I'm not knocking on my, my, my relatives here. 853 00:42:49,236 --> 00:42:50,626 I know that these are good people. 854 00:42:50,651 --> 00:42:52,146 That was just the homework at hand. 855 00:42:52,151 --> 00:42:56,156 But I think that is exactly what I'm talking about schools these days. 856 00:42:56,156 --> 00:42:59,743 Let's not even talk about, I can talk all day about the indoctrination 857 00:42:59,748 --> 00:43:00,793 and all of that kind of stuff. 858 00:43:00,793 --> 00:43:03,763 We can go that, go down that rabbit hole later on if you want. 859 00:43:04,573 --> 00:43:04,753 What? 860 00:43:04,753 --> 00:43:05,263 What's that? 861 00:43:05,383 --> 00:43:06,613 We'll do that on another episode. 862 00:43:06,703 --> 00:43:07,993 We'll do that on another episode. 863 00:43:07,993 --> 00:43:11,469 But to me, the first thing we gotta think about with our schools is 864 00:43:11,739 --> 00:43:13,959 our schools actually teaching kids. 865 00:43:14,874 --> 00:43:19,404 How to think, act, speak, behave in the real world. 866 00:43:19,794 --> 00:43:22,494 And in my experience, and in the many conversations I've had with 867 00:43:22,494 --> 00:43:25,134 a lot of people, the answer is no for the majority of schools. 868 00:43:25,734 --> 00:43:30,054 And I was talking to one of my mentors, and when I say there's a lot of great 869 00:43:30,054 --> 00:43:34,670 schools out there, I was blessed to be in one of those great schools in university. 870 00:43:34,670 --> 00:43:37,551 In fact we had a mentorship system in the college that I went to. 871 00:43:37,881 --> 00:43:40,962 And so we get paired with a professor and we talk with them 872 00:43:40,962 --> 00:43:44,052 after school or in between classes on whatever we want to talk about. 873 00:43:44,202 --> 00:43:48,372 And this particular mentor, he told me that the purpose of university 874 00:43:48,372 --> 00:43:51,672 is to teach students how to learn. 875 00:43:51,912 --> 00:43:55,302 It's a place for you to learn how to learn because until you turn 876 00:43:55,302 --> 00:43:58,812 23, your mind is still basically jello, it's still being molded. 877 00:43:59,382 --> 00:44:05,800 If you're imparting in a young person under 23 from the age of six or whatever 878 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,910 it starts at that their entire purpose is to get ready for the workforce. 879 00:44:10,420 --> 00:44:13,480 Or even before that, their entire purpose is to get into one of the 880 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,670 best colleges in their locality. 881 00:44:15,940 --> 00:44:19,270 If that's the message that they're being given for a dozen 882 00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:21,010 years until they graduate. 883 00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:23,990 I mean, what, what's that gonna do to them? 884 00:44:24,029 --> 00:44:25,748 And there's a lot of directions I can go with this. 885 00:44:25,748 --> 00:44:29,003 I can also talk about a lot of the stuff that Mike Rose says about the 886 00:44:29,003 --> 00:44:33,847 problem with schools and the lack of proper of a proper curriculum to 887 00:44:33,847 --> 00:44:36,855 really get them ready in the real world with, the hard skills and all that. 888 00:44:37,065 --> 00:44:43,035 But I think suffice it to say, I think school should be used to 889 00:44:43,035 --> 00:44:45,735 teach you really the trivium, right? 890 00:44:46,185 --> 00:44:49,425 You have to learn how to think, you have to learn how to put those thoughts 891 00:44:49,425 --> 00:44:52,965 into words, and you have to learn how to speak logic, grammar, rhetoric. 892 00:44:53,415 --> 00:44:54,225 I think it starts with that. 893 00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:58,377 I think the, the ancient Greeks and the Romans got it right, Their entire 894 00:44:58,377 --> 00:45:02,637 education system, which supposedly the modern schooling system was built on, is. 895 00:45:03,072 --> 00:45:03,762 Exactly that. 896 00:45:03,762 --> 00:45:06,432 Learning how to learn, learning how to formulate thoughts properly, and 897 00:45:06,432 --> 00:45:09,612 learning how to enunciate them and to verbalize them in a way that gets 898 00:45:09,612 --> 00:45:12,998 the other person to understand how many kids nowadays know how to, how 899 00:45:13,003 --> 00:45:17,755 to speak a full sentence without going off track or stuttering or any of that. 900 00:45:17,755 --> 00:45:22,090 I if you look at, clips of kids back in even the fifties, they seem 901 00:45:22,090 --> 00:45:26,200 so much more, they seem so much older than they are because the 902 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,000 way they speak was so different. 903 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,360 It's not just a vernacular of the time, it's just the education 904 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,900 system was a little better, I think in general back then. 905 00:45:35,620 --> 00:45:40,371 Nowadays we're being taught to get into the best colleges and then after that to 906 00:45:40,371 --> 00:45:43,221 get into the best secure well paying jobs. 907 00:45:43,491 --> 00:45:46,611 Again, let's hearkening back to what I said earlier in 908 00:45:46,616 --> 00:45:47,891 the, near the beginning of. 909 00:45:49,141 --> 00:45:51,864 The uh, beginning of the conversation when I asked my professor when 910 00:45:51,864 --> 00:45:54,744 my professor asked me, or rather, What do you wanna do after college? 911 00:45:54,749 --> 00:45:55,524 And I said, Filmmaker. 912 00:45:55,824 --> 00:45:57,684 And then he said, So you don't wanna make any money. 913 00:45:57,864 --> 00:46:00,204 That's top of mind with a lot of professors, unfortunately. 914 00:46:00,594 --> 00:46:03,714 Are you going to be prepared to make money after you graduate? 915 00:46:03,744 --> 00:46:05,664 And I think that's the wrong headed way to go about it. 916 00:46:05,664 --> 00:46:09,414 So I think that parents need to take their children's education to their own hands. 917 00:46:09,414 --> 00:46:12,024 And I think the best way they can do that, unless they find a good 918 00:46:12,024 --> 00:46:14,064 school, is to homeschool your kids. 919 00:46:14,994 --> 00:46:21,054 And to homeschool them in, again, a method and approach that builds up those 920 00:46:21,059 --> 00:46:23,484 soft skills, those skills that matter. 921 00:46:23,484 --> 00:46:28,584 Not the book smarts, but the street smarts and the social intelligence, 922 00:46:28,584 --> 00:46:29,694 the emotional intelligence. 923 00:46:29,694 --> 00:46:32,064 The approach that my wife and I are using right now is Montes. 924 00:46:32,294 --> 00:46:35,499 So, Montessori mixed in with a little bit of Waldorf. 925 00:46:35,499 --> 00:46:37,991 And when our kids get to be a little bit older, I plan to throw 926 00:46:37,991 --> 00:46:41,587 in some classical education and then a great books education as well. 927 00:46:41,947 --> 00:46:46,380 But doing it the way it was done, in the olden days, let's say, I think there needs 928 00:46:46,385 --> 00:46:51,992 to be a resurgence of that way of teaching where it, the children aren't being put 929 00:46:51,992 --> 00:46:55,562 in a hurry to get ready for a job after school, but rather to teach them how to 930 00:46:55,562 --> 00:47:00,392 learn and be patient and to, here's the other part of the equation, to teach them 931 00:47:00,392 --> 00:47:02,042 according to whatever their strengths are. 932 00:47:02,047 --> 00:47:05,282 I think that's the other big problem with modern education, is that we're 933 00:47:05,287 --> 00:47:07,982 given a one size fits all way to learn. 934 00:47:08,082 --> 00:47:11,772 And that's why a lot of kids lag behind, especially creative types like myself. 935 00:47:11,772 --> 00:47:15,162 That's why I was never a fit in the workforce and I was never a fit in school. 936 00:47:15,252 --> 00:47:17,022 I don't think, I don't think I'm a dumb guy. 937 00:47:17,078 --> 00:47:21,638 I think I'm pretty smart, but if you saw me in school and the way they grade 938 00:47:21,638 --> 00:47:24,398 me according to their curriculum, you would, you probably wouldn't think 939 00:47:24,398 --> 00:47:26,631 it because I was a c b minus student. 940 00:47:27,321 --> 00:47:29,931 And I think a lot of people like myself, I think a lot of creatives, a lot of 941 00:47:29,931 --> 00:47:31,321 entrepreneurs were in the same boat. 942 00:47:31,391 --> 00:47:33,881 They didn't look like the type of person who would succeed according 943 00:47:33,881 --> 00:47:35,651 to the standards of modern education. 944 00:47:36,101 --> 00:47:38,661 And the truth is, everybody just learns differently. 945 00:47:38,663 --> 00:47:41,436 You know that joke that's going around, the valedictorian, the school, 946 00:47:41,436 --> 00:47:42,666 he'd be a great person to hire. 947 00:47:42,666 --> 00:47:47,028 And in my company later on, , yep that's a joke that's going around. 948 00:47:47,028 --> 00:47:49,120 But, I think that's unfair to the valedictorian. 949 00:47:49,136 --> 00:47:50,631 He has his own strengths. 950 00:47:50,636 --> 00:47:51,921 He has his own way of learning. 951 00:47:51,951 --> 00:47:53,722 He has his own way of expressing what he knows. 952 00:47:53,722 --> 00:47:56,542 Maybe he'll make a good engineer, maybe he'll be an amazing employee. 953 00:47:56,547 --> 00:47:58,492 We need employees, we need great employees. 954 00:47:58,852 --> 00:48:02,699 But I think that the other half, the more creative types, the ones that 955 00:48:02,699 --> 00:48:07,315 don't learn well in the conventional educational environment, which is I 956 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,435 think at least half the world, they need to be taken care of as well. 957 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,263 So anyway, without going too far down that rabbit hole there's a 958 00:48:13,263 --> 00:48:16,577 bunch of problems and shortcomings in our modern schooling system with 959 00:48:16,577 --> 00:48:21,092 a focus on jobs over, actual skills of what it means to be a human being. 960 00:48:21,332 --> 00:48:23,822 How to be a well formed, fully formed human being. 961 00:48:23,822 --> 00:48:27,104 And I think that homeschooling at this point in time might be the 962 00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:30,554 best option for many parents to bring that sort of education back. 963 00:48:31,184 --> 00:48:34,887 I think it was Elon Musk was quoted as saying I don't have a degree from 964 00:48:34,887 --> 00:48:38,037 Harvard or Yale or anything like that, but I got a lot of people who work 965 00:48:38,037 --> 00:48:40,504 for me who do exactly, there it is. 966 00:48:40,635 --> 00:48:44,265 He found what was the correct path for him. 967 00:48:44,565 --> 00:48:45,923 And I have a heart for teachers. 968 00:48:45,928 --> 00:48:47,965 I've got a lot of friends who are teachers and there are a lot 969 00:48:47,965 --> 00:48:49,555 of amazing teachers out there. 970 00:48:50,215 --> 00:48:55,075 But the system is not designed, I think, anymore for teachers to be able to teach. 971 00:48:55,495 --> 00:48:59,935 It's teach designed for them to help the kids pass the test that this coming up. 972 00:49:00,145 --> 00:49:00,485 That's it. 973 00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:02,840 The teacher has very little leeway about what they teach. 974 00:49:03,290 --> 00:49:07,121 They're required to teach whatever test has been, This is the test 975 00:49:07,121 --> 00:49:08,771 they're gonna take, and this is the one they have to pass. 976 00:49:08,844 --> 00:49:11,038 So I think it's even outta their hands, son. 977 00:49:11,488 --> 00:49:13,780 You were saying that you think we should teach our kids to 978 00:49:13,780 --> 00:49:16,540 think more like entrepreneurs and this really caught my attention. 979 00:49:16,990 --> 00:49:17,110 Yeah. 980 00:49:17,115 --> 00:49:19,777 Because my children have a business seven to 10. 981 00:49:19,782 --> 00:49:24,601 My children design t-shirts for children and sell on rebo red bubble.com 982 00:49:24,601 --> 00:49:31,591 as a platform where it's royalty income off their designs, basically. 983 00:49:32,101 --> 00:49:32,191 Mm-hmm. 984 00:49:32,431 --> 00:49:37,481 . But they also I pay them to read books and do book reports on books, 985 00:49:37,486 --> 00:49:43,371 on marketing books, on design books, on language books on entrepreneurship. 986 00:49:43,384 --> 00:49:46,304 Because these are things I wasn't taught about. 987 00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:51,089 I realized at 40 years old, I'm 42 now, I realized at 40 years old how little I knew 988 00:49:51,094 --> 00:49:55,619 about some very important things in the world, like how finances actually work. 989 00:49:55,869 --> 00:49:56,479 Mm-hmm. 990 00:49:56,559 --> 00:49:58,229 how business works. 991 00:49:58,439 --> 00:49:59,669 These are things I wasn't taught. 992 00:49:59,849 --> 00:50:00,192 I was. 993 00:50:00,198 --> 00:50:02,688 In the public school system here, And is this not something 994 00:50:02,688 --> 00:50:04,248 we were talked, taught about? 995 00:50:04,788 --> 00:50:07,078 A 401k was something that happened. 996 00:50:07,078 --> 00:50:08,429 They said that in the job interview. 997 00:50:08,849 --> 00:50:11,232 Otherwise, I was 40 before I actually looked into what that 998 00:50:11,262 --> 00:50:15,072 really was and how horrible that was. 999 00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:16,780 I just didn't know anything about it. 1000 00:50:16,806 --> 00:50:20,439 I also didn't know that I had a bunch of 401ks laying around that 1001 00:50:20,439 --> 00:50:23,049 weren't doing anything from old companies because I didn't know 1002 00:50:23,049 --> 00:50:24,429 I had to go reinvest that money. 1003 00:50:26,139 --> 00:50:29,469 So I had 401ks sitting around for years doing nothing for me 1004 00:50:29,469 --> 00:50:32,589 financially because I didn't know I had to go do anything about it. 1005 00:50:33,729 --> 00:50:36,028 They just supposedly moved with me, until I found one that had been 1006 00:50:36,033 --> 00:50:42,124 sitting for six years in a, just a cash fund waiting for me to invest it. 1007 00:50:42,814 --> 00:50:45,934 I'm like, Wait, this has been sitting here like this for six years. 1008 00:50:47,314 --> 00:50:49,714 It didn't make me any, It didn't make dividends. 1009 00:50:49,714 --> 00:50:52,415 It didn't make, it didn't grow on capital gains or anything. 1010 00:50:52,453 --> 00:50:57,283 So I started figuring out how much I hadn't been taught, and I started trying 1011 00:50:57,283 --> 00:51:01,256 to sit down with my kids, aside from their homeschooling even, because they're 1012 00:51:01,256 --> 00:51:05,156 getting some great stuff out of their homeschooling, but at this age, I'm 1013 00:51:05,161 --> 00:51:10,520 trying to teach them to learn about the idea of, how do you create a business? 1014 00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:15,193 Their friend did eliminate stand and they, Oh, we should do lemonade stand. 1015 00:51:15,193 --> 00:51:17,752 I was like let's talk about why that's not their best idea. 1016 00:51:17,783 --> 00:51:19,943 Let's talk about having to have stock. 1017 00:51:20,633 --> 00:51:23,323 Let's talking about having to invest in stock beforehand. 1018 00:51:24,263 --> 00:51:27,563 What happens if you have a really good day and you run out all of it, but you 1019 00:51:27,563 --> 00:51:30,413 could still sell for the rest of the day, but now you don't have any stock? 1020 00:51:31,163 --> 00:51:32,120 They're like we should do coffee. 1021 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:32,930 Coffee's popular. 1022 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,690 Okay, you're gonna, where are you gonna buy all the coffee? 1023 00:51:36,140 --> 00:51:37,130 What pots are you gonna use? 1024 00:51:37,130 --> 00:51:38,670 How are you gonna keep it warm outside? 1025 00:51:38,670 --> 00:51:40,538 I started asking all these questions. 1026 00:51:41,543 --> 00:51:45,353 And then comparing it to the idea of royalty income or 1027 00:51:45,353 --> 00:51:47,303 getting paid for your ideas. 1028 00:51:47,436 --> 00:51:49,056 And they're like, Huh. 1029 00:51:50,556 --> 00:51:52,986 But they're asking questions and we're having conversations 1030 00:51:54,006 --> 00:51:56,316 that you don't generally have with seven and 10 year olds. 1031 00:51:56,321 --> 00:51:56,826 And it's great. 1032 00:51:56,826 --> 00:51:57,666 I'm loving it. 1033 00:51:58,446 --> 00:52:00,606 And I saw that you were talking about we need to teach our kids 1034 00:52:00,606 --> 00:52:02,136 to think like entrepreneurs. 1035 00:52:02,706 --> 00:52:05,646 I think that word, not everybody truly gets that word. 1036 00:52:06,156 --> 00:52:06,366 Yeah. 1037 00:52:06,426 --> 00:52:08,508 Because it's being used really heavily. 1038 00:52:08,508 --> 00:52:10,671 It's become a very it word in the last couple years. 1039 00:52:11,481 --> 00:52:12,741 Everybody is an entrepreneur. 1040 00:52:12,891 --> 00:52:13,671 I'm an entrepreneur. 1041 00:52:13,701 --> 00:52:14,121 No, I'm not. 1042 00:52:14,165 --> 00:52:14,579 I'm not. 1043 00:52:14,819 --> 00:52:16,529 I wouldn't mind heading that direction. 1044 00:52:16,529 --> 00:52:20,609 And I want to be heading in that direction with my business as I grow right now. 1045 00:52:20,609 --> 00:52:22,739 That's not a fitting term for what I am doing. 1046 00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:23,759 Yeah. 1047 00:52:23,883 --> 00:52:26,133 So can you talk about that just a little bit? 1048 00:52:26,133 --> 00:52:27,363 We'll start to wrap this up. 1049 00:52:27,843 --> 00:52:28,083 Yeah. 1050 00:52:28,083 --> 00:52:31,113 There's a lot I can talk about with regards to what it really means to 1051 00:52:31,113 --> 00:52:35,533 be an entrepreneur, again, using network marketing as sort of a, a 1052 00:52:35,533 --> 00:52:39,513 way to to illustrate this point the common language being used or the 1053 00:52:39,513 --> 00:52:42,813 common marketing language being used to attract people into a network. 1054 00:52:42,813 --> 00:52:46,503 Marketing companies, be your own boss, become an entrepreneur, when really 1055 00:52:46,508 --> 00:52:48,513 network marketers aren't entrepreneurs. 1056 00:52:48,513 --> 00:52:50,733 Here's something that I also stir a lot of feathers with. 1057 00:52:51,933 --> 00:52:55,053 I always tell people, if you get into a network marketing business, you're 1058 00:52:55,053 --> 00:52:56,523 not entrepreneur, you're a salesman. 1059 00:52:56,973 --> 00:52:59,763 And that really gets on their nerves because a lot of people hate 1060 00:53:00,063 --> 00:53:01,833 being described as sales people. 1061 00:53:02,013 --> 00:53:05,403 And I always say, if you don't, if you don't accept the word sales, 1062 00:53:05,433 --> 00:53:08,103 if you think it's an icky thing to be a salesperson, you're never 1063 00:53:08,103 --> 00:53:09,423 gonna succeed in this business. 1064 00:53:09,933 --> 00:53:13,368 And if you wanna be an entrepreneur, I think the best way to do that in the 1065 00:53:13,368 --> 00:53:17,808 modern world is to create that brand and to offer services in front of your network 1066 00:53:17,808 --> 00:53:19,278 marketing business to build a tribe. 1067 00:53:19,278 --> 00:53:20,838 And again, that's a whole different thing. 1068 00:53:20,838 --> 00:53:22,070 But I think I made my point. 1069 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,061 There are different kind of like you said, entrepreneur, sort of 1070 00:53:25,061 --> 00:53:28,781 a catchall term when really an entrepreneur is really just a person 1071 00:53:28,781 --> 00:53:32,201 that creates, a person that innovates, a person that thinks out of the box. 1072 00:53:32,501 --> 00:53:35,810 And before I forget your original point, you were talking about teaching 1073 00:53:35,815 --> 00:53:39,300 your kids how to become entrepreneurs or to think like entrepreneurs. 1074 00:53:39,690 --> 00:53:45,780 And to me, I don't even like to limit entrepreneurship to the actual profession 1075 00:53:45,780 --> 00:53:48,718 or career of being a business person. 1076 00:53:48,718 --> 00:53:53,068 Because when I say entrepreneur, and this might only be my definition, 1077 00:53:53,533 --> 00:53:58,393 But when I say entrepreneur, I think of anyone who's able to think 1078 00:53:58,393 --> 00:54:00,073 out of the box and be creative. 1079 00:54:00,103 --> 00:54:03,414 In fact, I always say that artists and entrepreneurs, creatives and 1080 00:54:03,419 --> 00:54:05,130 entrepreneurs are cut from the same cloth. 1081 00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:09,540 These are people who don't allow whatever is established, the established 1082 00:54:09,540 --> 00:54:13,237 boundaries to dictate the way that they proceed or make decisions. 1083 00:54:13,237 --> 00:54:14,690 So here's a good example. 1084 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:19,318 In our company, in our network marketing company one of our business partners, 1085 00:54:19,408 --> 00:54:22,558 his son grew up in our community. 1086 00:54:22,563 --> 00:54:24,778 So he was trained to think creatively. 1087 00:54:24,778 --> 00:54:28,667 He grew up not being he grew up and he wasn't raised, and he 1088 00:54:28,667 --> 00:54:32,507 wasn't put into a school where you're trained to be an employee. 1089 00:54:32,807 --> 00:54:37,457 So this guy decided to actually go into corporate life after 1090 00:54:37,457 --> 00:54:39,587 school, and he loves his work. 1091 00:54:39,592 --> 00:54:41,177 He doesn't wanna be his own boss. 1092 00:54:41,237 --> 00:54:44,627 He likes working for somebody else, but. 1093 00:54:45,227 --> 00:54:49,097 There was a point in his career where he realized that he's being underpaid 1094 00:54:49,097 --> 00:54:52,187 and spending too much time at the office for something that doesn't 1095 00:54:52,187 --> 00:54:55,397 need time at the office for as long as he's being put in the office. 1096 00:54:55,517 --> 00:54:59,431 So he walked into his his boss's office one day and then he said, You 1097 00:54:59,436 --> 00:55:03,841 know what, Instead of being full-time on a salaried position in, in, in 1098 00:55:03,841 --> 00:55:11,041 this role, can you give me a flexible work from anywhere schedule and pay 1099 00:55:11,041 --> 00:55:13,621 me contractually or per project? 1100 00:55:14,161 --> 00:55:15,541 Something along those lines. 1101 00:55:15,991 --> 00:55:24,421 So in short, this guy managed to cut his working time down by at least two thirds. 1102 00:55:24,661 --> 00:55:28,561 He's working two thirds less than he did before, and he's being paid more or 1103 00:55:28,566 --> 00:55:31,921 less the same per month because of the nature, the particular nature of his 1104 00:55:31,921 --> 00:55:38,131 work gets paid a lot per project, and now he has time to be able to do the 1105 00:55:38,131 --> 00:55:39,601 other things that he wants to do in life. 1106 00:55:40,381 --> 00:55:42,151 That is a guy who thinks like an entrepreneur. 1107 00:55:42,736 --> 00:55:45,669 He has no intention of ever starting a business, on his own. 1108 00:55:45,674 --> 00:55:46,629 Maybe things have changed now. 1109 00:55:46,629 --> 00:55:49,659 That was a few years ago, but I think you catch my drift here. 1110 00:55:50,109 --> 00:55:53,199 Entrepreneurship is just a way of thinking, a way of approaching life, 1111 00:55:53,499 --> 00:55:58,779 of seeing something and then saying, Okay, I see that for what it is, 1112 00:55:58,779 --> 00:56:00,229 but why does it have to be that way? 1113 00:56:00,299 --> 00:56:02,909 I see the contract and I see that everybody else adheres 1114 00:56:02,909 --> 00:56:04,829 to this contract, but why? 1115 00:56:05,009 --> 00:56:06,449 What is the rationale behind it? 1116 00:56:06,509 --> 00:56:10,079 And if there's a better way to accomplish the goals that are set out before me 1117 00:56:10,229 --> 00:56:14,789 without having to adhere to the current constructs and rules, I'm gonna ask 1118 00:56:14,794 --> 00:56:18,749 if that can be a thing, I'm gonna go into my boss's office and ask for a 1119 00:56:18,749 --> 00:56:21,809 different arrangement because I can still get the job done, perhaps even 1120 00:56:21,809 --> 00:56:23,909 better, doing things differently. 1121 00:56:24,659 --> 00:56:27,899 And so that's entrepreneurship on a practical level. 1122 00:56:28,244 --> 00:56:30,914 By a guy who never wants to start a business in his life. 1123 00:56:31,274 --> 00:56:35,504 And I think if you train kids to think that way, to thank God at the box, to look 1124 00:56:35,504 --> 00:56:40,064 outside the boundaries of what everybody's telling them should be the norm. 1125 00:56:40,574 --> 00:56:43,184 You are gonna raise very, very successful kids. 1126 00:56:43,184 --> 00:56:46,184 It doesn't matter what they get into, they're gonna find a solution 1127 00:56:46,304 --> 00:56:50,024 to get the best out of whatever endeavor they decide to pursue. 1128 00:56:51,014 --> 00:56:52,124 What's next for Donna bod? 1129 00:56:54,374 --> 00:56:57,674 Right now, it's just a matter of doubling down on the brand. 1130 00:56:57,674 --> 00:57:00,644 Again, just getting used to all the new hardware and all the new 1131 00:57:00,734 --> 00:57:05,080 platforms that my wife Kim and are using to build up the sovereign brand. 1132 00:57:05,650 --> 00:57:11,055 And really nothing the pitch here except I, I wanna bring on more amazing guests 1133 00:57:11,060 --> 00:57:17,770 on the Sovereign podcast and to really get our network marketing venture really 1134 00:57:17,770 --> 00:57:21,354 super charging the brand by Being cons, being a little more consistent with the 1135 00:57:21,354 --> 00:57:24,853 podcast because as I mentioned earlier, we're planning a big move in a, in a 1136 00:57:24,853 --> 00:57:28,357 couple of months and I've been taking my eye off the ball a little bit with 1137 00:57:28,462 --> 00:57:30,532 my, your Sovereign Down Line podcast. 1138 00:57:30,532 --> 00:57:32,332 So I really wanna get back on track with that. 1139 00:57:32,338 --> 00:57:33,106 And that's really it. 1140 00:57:33,106 --> 00:57:36,856 Just create a bigger presence and find more amazing people to speak 1141 00:57:36,856 --> 00:57:39,596 to because I know that that's gonna pay dividends in the long run. 1142 00:57:39,596 --> 00:57:40,346 So that's really it. 1143 00:57:40,346 --> 00:57:44,096 Just a lot of brand building and a lot of getting used to this whole new process 1144 00:57:44,101 --> 00:57:48,362 of juggling business with fatherhood, with a two year old who thinks he's 1145 00:57:48,362 --> 00:57:51,812 a teenager, that that's really, it's just adjusting to this new world. 1146 00:57:52,292 --> 00:57:52,652 Okay, 1147 00:57:53,342 --> 00:57:56,432 is don abba.com the best place to find you? 1148 00:57:56,942 --> 00:57:57,212 Yep. 1149 00:57:57,812 --> 00:57:58,712 Don abad.com. 1150 00:57:58,717 --> 00:58:01,592 You can also send me a message on Instagram. 1151 00:58:01,592 --> 00:58:02,432 It's at Real. 1152 00:58:02,432 --> 00:58:03,212 Don Abad. 1153 00:58:03,272 --> 00:58:04,532 At Real Don Abad. 1154 00:58:04,892 --> 00:58:05,162 Bless. 1155 00:58:05,167 --> 00:58:06,422 You're a spammer or scammer. 1156 00:58:06,422 --> 00:58:08,162 I reply to every single message. 1157 00:58:09,197 --> 00:58:10,067 Guys, we'll have 1158 00:58:10,127 --> 00:58:13,757 all of Don's links in the description of the show notes, just like always, 1159 00:58:14,117 --> 00:58:17,217 cuz we wanna make sure that you guys can find Don wherever he is. 1160 00:58:17,217 --> 00:58:21,845 So all that will be right there, including podcast links and your 1161 00:58:21,845 --> 00:58:23,375 YouTube channel and everywhere else. 1162 00:58:24,005 --> 00:58:26,105 Go over and check out what Don is doing, guys. 1163 00:58:26,545 --> 00:58:29,765 This is a man who is right here at the heart of the Fallwell man. 1164 00:58:29,765 --> 00:58:33,365 He's on the front lines trying to be a dad, trying to be a husband, trying 1165 00:58:33,365 --> 00:58:38,165 to be a man, trying to live his terms of how he thinks his life should be 1166 00:58:38,255 --> 00:58:40,685 exercising his faith and his freedom. 1167 00:58:41,045 --> 00:58:41,465 Guys. 1168 00:58:42,035 --> 00:58:42,995 Check out his podcast. 1169 00:58:42,995 --> 00:58:46,685 I was listening to it earlier and as always, be better tomorrow 1170 00:58:46,685 --> 00:58:48,815 because of what you do today and we'll see you on the next one. 1171 00:58:49,745 --> 00:58:50,195 This has 1172 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,235 been The Fallible Man Podcast. 1173 00:58:52,835 --> 00:58:56,135 Your home for everything, man, husband, and father. 1174 00:58:57,005 --> 00:58:59,255 Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss a show. 1175 00:59:00,155 --> 00:59:06,515 Head over to www.thefallibleman.com for more content and get 1176 00:59:06,515 --> 00:59:08,015 your own Fallible man gear.