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Manosphere: Empathy for Stronger Relationships

Manosphere: Empathy for Stronger Relationships

Step into a world where empathy and masculinity intersect in a conversation that's bound to reshape your perspective. Join the Fallible Man in this captivating episode as he fearlessly delves into the intricacies of empathy, demystifying its challeng...

Step into a world where empathy and masculinity intersect in a conversation that's bound to reshape your perspective. Join the Fallible Man in this captivating episode as he fearlessly delves into the intricacies of empathy, demystifying its challenges for men. Uncover the truth about sympathy versus empathy and how the discomfort it brings can be turned into a strength.

Through relatable stories and a fresh perspective, Brent challenges the stereotype of "vicariously experiencing" emotions and unveils a more approachable definition. Learn to navigate emotional situations with practical tips, masterfully tailored to the male mindset. Whether in professional dynamics, romance, friendships, or parenting, discover the game-changing impact of empathy.

This episode's practical example of consoling a grieving coworker unlocks a transformative strategy. Brent outlines five key questions that frame situations for empathetic responses, shifting the paradigm for better connections. The social science related to empathy makes it unappealing for a lot of men but it is core to powerful connections. Tune in to this enlightening episode of The Fallible Man Podcast and equip yourself with tools to enrich your relationships through genuine understanding and kindness. Don't miss out – embrace empathy's power today!

 

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1 00:00:00,691 --> 00:00:06,031 So years ago I had this coworker who was just falling apart at work one day. 2 00:00:06,091 --> 00:00:10,351 I mean, just blubbering, falling to pieces. 3 00:00:11,491 --> 00:00:18,481 And I was a little beside myself because I didn't understand what was going on. 4 00:00:18,481 --> 00:00:20,581 If something was that horrible, why was he at work? 5 00:00:20,581 --> 00:00:21,001 Right? 6 00:00:21,361 --> 00:00:26,101 Uh, I'm very much of a person of, if I'm at work, I'm at work and if I'm 7 00:00:26,106 --> 00:00:29,971 at home, I'm at home and, and I don't let the two cross over very often. 8 00:00:30,556 --> 00:00:32,386 And he was just falling apart. 9 00:00:33,826 --> 00:00:37,366 And so finally not really wanting to get into it. 10 00:00:37,396 --> 00:00:40,246 'cause I didn't, I just didn't really wanna get into it. 11 00:00:41,025 --> 00:00:45,166 I, I finally asked him, I was like, Hey, are you okay? 12 00:00:45,171 --> 00:00:46,486 What, what's going on? 13 00:00:49,006 --> 00:00:53,866 And to my surprise, he told me his family dog died the night before. 14 00:00:56,326 --> 00:00:59,206 Now you guys might think I was, I'm, I'm kind of heartless. 15 00:00:59,626 --> 00:01:05,776 But I seriously had a W t F moment because my brain instantly registered and went, 16 00:01:07,606 --> 00:01:10,816 really, this is why you're a mess at work. 17 00:01:11,416 --> 00:01:15,856 You're, you're at a professional job in the middle of an office, white collar 18 00:01:15,856 --> 00:01:21,015 business, and you are just making a scene, making everyone uncomfortable, blubbering 19 00:01:21,015 --> 00:01:23,956 all over the place about your dog. 20 00:01:26,146 --> 00:01:28,096 Now, you guys may think I'm entirely heartless. 21 00:01:28,666 --> 00:01:29,506 That's up to you. 22 00:01:30,646 --> 00:01:33,886 But it took me a while to learn a lesson that I learned that day, 23 00:01:35,056 --> 00:01:36,646 and I think it's important for you. 24 00:01:37,186 --> 00:01:38,656 And so I wanna share that with you today. 25 00:01:39,646 --> 00:01:44,026 In this episode, I'm gonna explain why empathy is critical for men 26 00:01:44,056 --> 00:01:46,876 to understand, to have the kind of relationships we want to. 27 00:01:47,851 --> 00:01:48,721 So let's get into it. 28 00:01:54,451 --> 00:01:55,771 Here's the million dollar question. 29 00:01:56,311 --> 00:01:58,651 How do men like us reach our full potential? 30 00:01:59,161 --> 00:02:03,181 Growing to the men we dream of being while taking care of our responsibilities, 31 00:02:03,186 --> 00:02:07,891 working, being good husbands, fathers, and still take care of ourselves? 32 00:02:08,881 --> 00:02:11,941 Well, that's the big question in this podcast. 33 00:02:12,256 --> 00:02:14,055 We'll help you answer those questions and more. 34 00:02:14,266 --> 00:02:17,116 My name is Brent and welcome to the Album MAN podcast. 35 00:02:20,791 --> 00:02:23,611 Welcome to the Falbo Man Podcast, your home for all things, man. 36 00:02:24,391 --> 00:02:25,861 Big shout out to Falbo Nation. 37 00:02:26,041 --> 00:02:28,081 That's our private community, and you're welcome to come 38 00:02:28,086 --> 00:02:29,041 join us and be a part of that. 39 00:02:29,046 --> 00:02:31,531 There will be links in the description below to help you do 40 00:02:31,531 --> 00:02:32,551 that if you're interested in that. 41 00:02:32,821 --> 00:02:35,491 Warm, welcome to our first time listeners. 42 00:02:35,701 --> 00:02:36,931 Hey, thanks for giving us a try. 43 00:02:36,931 --> 00:02:37,741 Checking us out today. 44 00:02:37,741 --> 00:02:38,941 I hope you enjoy the show. 45 00:02:39,241 --> 00:02:40,231 Leave me some feedback. 46 00:02:40,291 --> 00:02:42,271 I'd love to hear your ideas and opinions on it. 47 00:02:42,661 --> 00:02:44,941 My name is Brent and I am the fallible man. 48 00:02:46,576 --> 00:02:49,636 Empathy is a word that tends to make us squirm a little as men. 49 00:02:50,266 --> 00:02:53,596 Maybe it's just me, but I don't actually think I'm alone in this. 50 00:02:54,016 --> 00:02:58,125 I could be wrong, but really I think more of you are are right there with me on 51 00:02:58,131 --> 00:03:00,585 this than maybe even want to admit it. 52 00:03:01,125 --> 00:03:04,426 The first problem is that we frequently get confused between the 53 00:03:04,426 --> 00:03:06,555 idea of sympathy versus empathy. 54 00:03:07,786 --> 00:03:12,976 So sympathy and empathy both refer to a caring response to an 55 00:03:12,976 --> 00:03:14,956 emotional state of someone else. 56 00:03:16,066 --> 00:03:19,366 But a distinction between them is typically made while sympathy 57 00:03:19,366 --> 00:03:23,296 is feelings of sincere concern for someone who's experiencing 58 00:03:23,565 --> 00:03:25,125 something difficult or painful. 59 00:03:25,426 --> 00:03:28,636 Empathy involves actually actively sharing in the emotional 60 00:03:28,636 --> 00:03:31,245 experience of the other person. 61 00:03:32,926 --> 00:03:36,256 This is where we, we get uncomfortable because we don't always. 62 00:03:36,780 --> 00:03:40,590 Click with the idea of sharing someone else's emotional 63 00:03:40,590 --> 00:03:44,551 experience, and the definition of empathy doesn't help us out much. 64 00:03:44,551 --> 00:03:45,451 In this case. 65 00:03:47,821 --> 00:03:53,041 The definition of empathy according to the dictionary, is the action 66 00:03:53,190 --> 00:03:59,460 of understanding, being aware of being sensitive to, and vicariously 67 00:03:59,460 --> 00:04:02,370 experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another. 68 00:04:04,606 --> 00:04:08,926 So let me take a second here and, uh, unpack this a little bit and, and kick 69 00:04:08,926 --> 00:04:10,906 this one in the teeth just a little bit. 70 00:04:10,911 --> 00:04:11,266 Okay. 71 00:04:11,836 --> 00:04:14,776 Because the second part of that definition is a crappy sentiment. 72 00:04:14,781 --> 00:04:16,516 That's not really accurate. 73 00:04:17,746 --> 00:04:18,796 I know you're going, wait. 74 00:04:18,796 --> 00:04:20,716 You know, Brent thinks he knows better than the dictionary. 75 00:04:20,716 --> 00:04:21,046 Yes. 76 00:04:21,046 --> 00:04:22,066 Yes, I do actually. 77 00:04:23,326 --> 00:04:26,866 In fact, it's this nonsense that makes men uncomfortable with 78 00:04:26,866 --> 00:04:32,116 it because it's an emotional concept instead of accurate data. 79 00:04:33,946 --> 00:04:39,856 Look at the last part of that definition, vicariously experiencing the feelings, 80 00:04:39,856 --> 00:04:41,386 thoughts, and experience of another. 81 00:04:45,346 --> 00:04:46,426 That's just dumb. 82 00:04:47,206 --> 00:04:51,256 And I, I, I'm gonna get in trouble for this, so when I get kicked off 83 00:04:51,256 --> 00:04:53,836 the airways, you know, guys know it came down to this statement. 84 00:04:54,256 --> 00:04:55,936 A woman wrote this definition. 85 00:04:58,336 --> 00:05:00,256 Men never would've written this definition. 86 00:05:01,666 --> 00:05:06,796 You cannot experience someone else's feelings, thoughts, 87 00:05:06,886 --> 00:05:08,656 or experiences, vicariously. 88 00:05:11,086 --> 00:05:12,466 You are not them. 89 00:05:13,636 --> 00:05:18,016 You're not built from the same exact background, experience, influences, 90 00:05:18,016 --> 00:05:19,936 or pressures that made them. 91 00:05:20,056 --> 00:05:24,766 It's actually impossible to do more than understand it conceptually. 92 00:05:28,386 --> 00:05:29,296 It is just a fact. 93 00:05:29,296 --> 00:05:33,556 We, we've talked about it many times on this show that you are the sum 94 00:05:33,556 --> 00:05:38,656 of all of your experiences, your influences, the pressures, the trials, 95 00:05:39,316 --> 00:05:42,706 everything you've gone through, all the influences through your life. 96 00:05:43,246 --> 00:05:45,466 That is what actually makes you unique. 97 00:05:47,446 --> 00:05:51,316 It is impossible to vicariously experience someone else's 98 00:05:51,321 --> 00:05:53,656 feelings, thoughts, and emotions. 99 00:05:53,656 --> 00:05:54,736 It doesn't work. 100 00:05:56,070 --> 00:05:57,691 Let me give you a practical example. 101 00:05:57,721 --> 00:05:58,890 I'll back that up. 102 00:05:59,101 --> 00:06:01,441 Let's go back to my coworker that lost the family dog. 103 00:06:02,731 --> 00:06:03,871 Dude was tore up. 104 00:06:03,900 --> 00:06:06,301 I mean, straight up sobbing, falling apart at work. 105 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:12,361 Now I was raised in a household where my mother was raised with 106 00:06:12,361 --> 00:06:15,270 a farming background and I, my first job was on a ranch. 107 00:06:16,861 --> 00:06:17,971 I liked my dog. 108 00:06:18,616 --> 00:06:20,895 Don't get me wrong, you're gonna be like, oh, Brandon's animal. 109 00:06:21,405 --> 00:06:23,085 I like dogs, okay? 110 00:06:23,296 --> 00:06:28,486 In fact, I'm a dog person and dogs like me beyond reason. 111 00:06:30,015 --> 00:06:30,856 I don't know why. 112 00:06:30,856 --> 00:06:32,806 They're just like attracted to me. 113 00:06:32,806 --> 00:06:33,616 We hang out. 114 00:06:34,006 --> 00:06:36,226 I make friends with random dogs all the time. 115 00:06:36,226 --> 00:06:39,316 I've had friends who told me their dog was gonna attack me, that the dog 116 00:06:39,316 --> 00:06:42,705 was cuddled lip in my lap in seconds, because that's where they wanna be. 117 00:06:42,705 --> 00:06:43,635 They wanna hang out with me. 118 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,781 So I'm a dog person to an extreme, and I've had several dogs over my 119 00:06:48,781 --> 00:06:54,541 lifetime, but I have never broken down a loss to over one dying. 120 00:06:54,961 --> 00:06:58,411 This goes back to the fact that my mother had a farm background. 121 00:06:59,281 --> 00:07:04,080 I spent time working on a ranch in high school, and animals are part of life. 122 00:07:04,140 --> 00:07:05,311 They're part of the life cycle. 123 00:07:05,311 --> 00:07:11,520 They come, they go, and yes, I like my dog much better than I like a random cow. 124 00:07:12,946 --> 00:07:14,386 But it's still not a person. 125 00:07:14,506 --> 00:07:17,416 And to me it's not the same experience. 126 00:07:18,616 --> 00:07:23,776 So in, in fact, ridiculously, not only am I a dog person, I'm also the, the 127 00:07:23,776 --> 00:07:28,396 one that people and my friends call to take their dogs to the vet when they 128 00:07:28,401 --> 00:07:33,136 need to be put down after they, if they get sick or age to a certain point 129 00:07:33,616 --> 00:07:35,146 because of the more humane thing to do. 130 00:07:35,146 --> 00:07:38,116 But they, they're too broken up to take their dog 'cause they 131 00:07:38,121 --> 00:07:39,466 just couldn't be there for that. 132 00:07:39,986 --> 00:07:40,275 Okay. 133 00:07:40,816 --> 00:07:42,496 I've held people's hands when they're dying. 134 00:07:43,246 --> 00:07:44,835 I've taken dogs and had 'em put down. 135 00:07:44,835 --> 00:07:45,825 I've put dogs down. 136 00:07:46,126 --> 00:07:47,536 Like I said, ranch kid. 137 00:07:48,916 --> 00:07:54,736 It was not possible for me to experience my colleague pain because we're from 138 00:07:54,736 --> 00:08:01,096 two different worlds on this idea, my very favorite dog in my life. 139 00:08:01,096 --> 00:08:04,876 I put it down because it got sick and it was in pain, and 140 00:08:04,876 --> 00:08:05,835 I didn't wanna see it suffer. 141 00:08:05,835 --> 00:08:08,926 It was inhumane to me, so I put it down and I buried my dog. 142 00:08:10,426 --> 00:08:11,776 That's just part of my life. 143 00:08:12,825 --> 00:08:18,706 I could not like fathom the emotional state which he was in. 144 00:08:19,846 --> 00:08:24,556 What I could do was understand that my colleague was deeply upset. 145 00:08:25,486 --> 00:08:27,616 I could not empathize with him. 146 00:08:27,646 --> 00:08:34,066 I could not understand the pain he was in or vicariously experience that with 147 00:08:34,071 --> 00:08:39,016 him because I thought it was stupid like, I didn't, I didn't say anything. 148 00:08:39,016 --> 00:08:42,526 I wasn't mean, but I was like, wow, this is ridiculous and stupid. 149 00:08:42,526 --> 00:08:43,846 Go home if you're gonna be a little bitch. 150 00:08:44,506 --> 00:08:44,956 Right? 151 00:08:47,296 --> 00:08:51,946 All I could do was go, my colleague is deeply upset. 152 00:08:52,906 --> 00:08:55,846 I could be aware that the day was difficult for him. 153 00:08:56,566 --> 00:09:01,576 I could be sensitive to my interactions with him and his current emotional 154 00:09:01,576 --> 00:09:05,206 state, which means I was much less of an a-hole that day to him. 155 00:09:05,805 --> 00:09:08,836 And that's a nice way I, as I can put it, 'cause we didn't always see eye to eye. 156 00:09:10,545 --> 00:09:11,685 That was empathy. 157 00:09:13,305 --> 00:09:16,126 Let's go back to the first part of that definition that actually makes 158 00:09:16,126 --> 00:09:17,866 sense and, and forget the rest. 159 00:09:19,096 --> 00:09:19,545 Okay. 160 00:09:21,195 --> 00:09:26,626 So the first part of the definition is the action of understanding, 161 00:09:26,896 --> 00:09:31,486 being aware of and being sensitive to the feelings, thoughts, and 162 00:09:31,486 --> 00:09:32,805 experiences of another person. 163 00:09:33,211 --> 00:09:36,661 Not vicariously, vicariously and exp experiencing it. 164 00:09:36,901 --> 00:09:38,731 It's the reason that guys struggle with this idea. 165 00:09:38,881 --> 00:09:43,561 You don't have to experience it and, and you're not going to actually, you can make 166 00:09:43,561 --> 00:09:45,781 it all up in your head, but that's stupid. 167 00:09:45,786 --> 00:09:46,351 Don't do it. 168 00:09:48,721 --> 00:09:54,361 The empathy that I could express for him was that first part of the definition. 169 00:09:54,931 --> 00:09:55,891 So why are we talking about it? 170 00:09:55,921 --> 00:09:57,751 Why, why am I making a big deal about this? 171 00:09:58,111 --> 00:09:59,581 Empathy is critical. 172 00:09:59,925 --> 00:10:04,816 It's an absolutely critical component of healthy relationships, professional, 173 00:10:04,846 --> 00:10:06,675 romantic, plutonic, and parental. 174 00:10:07,006 --> 00:10:09,706 You have to have empathy and you have to exercise empathy. 175 00:10:10,126 --> 00:10:13,846 You have to master it to be successful in all of these types of relationships. 176 00:10:14,896 --> 00:10:17,476 So how do we master this so we can have better relationships? 177 00:10:18,766 --> 00:10:21,076 Well, the good news is empathy is actually a skill. 178 00:10:21,136 --> 00:10:22,606 It's not a foregone conclusion. 179 00:10:23,026 --> 00:10:27,826 It is something that can be learned, grown, fostered, and. 180 00:10:28,441 --> 00:10:31,021 You know, moved along to where you're good at it, actually. 181 00:10:31,981 --> 00:10:37,591 But where do we start by reframing what is required at a more male perspective? 182 00:10:37,596 --> 00:10:39,721 Like I said, that definition had to be written by a woman. 183 00:10:40,170 --> 00:10:43,891 Someone was gonna hear this and, and I'm gonna get it both barrels, 184 00:10:43,891 --> 00:10:50,131 but let, let's reframe it at a more male perspective because Right, 185 00:10:50,191 --> 00:10:51,871 we're data-driven and that's okay. 186 00:10:52,021 --> 00:10:53,851 I'm not saying you don't have emotions and feelings. 187 00:10:54,121 --> 00:10:56,941 I'm saying you have a data-driven sense of information. 188 00:10:58,111 --> 00:11:04,291 So if you want to be empathetic, here are some data points you need 189 00:11:04,291 --> 00:11:10,261 to ask about to reframe the situation so you can be empathetic, right? 190 00:11:10,891 --> 00:11:14,671 Is the person that you're interacting with more emotional or logic driven? 191 00:11:16,641 --> 00:11:18,721 Do you know what their personality type is? 192 00:11:18,781 --> 00:11:21,001 Do you know how they communicate best? 193 00:11:22,501 --> 00:11:24,061 How does they, what's their thinking style? 194 00:11:24,061 --> 00:11:25,861 Like, how do they process things mentally? 195 00:11:25,866 --> 00:11:25,891 I. 196 00:11:26,941 --> 00:11:34,171 From their perspective, not yours, see that this is a 197 00:11:34,176 --> 00:11:36,001 legitimate feeling for them. 198 00:11:38,731 --> 00:11:41,641 Now, you don't have to understand what they're feeling. 199 00:11:42,721 --> 00:11:47,611 And please, please, please, especially in negative emotional situations. 200 00:11:48,781 --> 00:11:52,651 Don't try to liken their experience to one of your experiences. 201 00:11:52,651 --> 00:11:57,931 I think that's where the whole vicariously lived experience crap comes from, right? 202 00:11:58,441 --> 00:12:02,881 If you've ever lost somebody you love, okay, let's take that a step. 203 00:12:02,881 --> 00:12:04,501 Let me explain why I'm saying here. 204 00:12:04,741 --> 00:12:09,391 If you've ever lost somebody you love, someone very close to you, a parent, 205 00:12:10,111 --> 00:12:15,511 a sibling, a, a spouse, a child. 206 00:12:17,431 --> 00:12:20,851 Grandparent, your anyone, like super close to you, a friend even. 207 00:12:20,851 --> 00:12:21,301 Right? 208 00:12:24,091 --> 00:12:26,191 How negatively do you respond? 209 00:12:26,611 --> 00:12:31,771 Respond when someone walks up to you and tries to be empathetic and goes, 210 00:12:32,611 --> 00:12:35,551 oh, I know, I know exactly how you feel. 211 00:12:35,551 --> 00:12:41,101 I, when I lost my dad, I never come so close to punching somebody in the face. 212 00:12:42,346 --> 00:12:43,545 That is the last thing. 213 00:12:43,665 --> 00:12:47,236 I actually shielded my friend, a different friend at his dad's funeral 214 00:12:48,136 --> 00:12:51,976 because he was going to punch somebody in the face when they started talking. 215 00:12:51,976 --> 00:12:52,876 That nonsense. 216 00:12:54,856 --> 00:12:59,836 Don't try to liken their pain to your experience. 217 00:13:00,106 --> 00:13:05,295 It belittles their feelings and it has gonna, it's gonna be me 218 00:13:05,356 --> 00:13:07,756 even more negative for them, whether they say anything or not. 219 00:13:09,781 --> 00:13:16,381 You don't even have to speak sometimes to understand that they're experiencing 220 00:13:16,386 --> 00:13:20,161 a feeling and our processing it. 221 00:13:20,821 --> 00:13:23,281 Sometimes words aren't the right option. 222 00:13:24,811 --> 00:13:27,121 Good feelings have this case. 223 00:13:27,421 --> 00:13:28,661 Negative emotions have this case. 224 00:13:29,251 --> 00:13:31,621 Sometimes you just don't need to speak. 225 00:13:31,621 --> 00:13:36,061 Sometimes you just need to let 'em experience that feeling that might be 226 00:13:36,061 --> 00:13:37,531 sitting with 'em for long periods of time. 227 00:13:39,376 --> 00:13:44,866 When my friend's dad died, I jumped on my motorcycle and I went to go see him and 228 00:13:44,866 --> 00:13:45,886 he was like, dude, I don't want you here. 229 00:13:45,916 --> 00:13:46,516 I don't want you here. 230 00:13:46,516 --> 00:13:48,406 I don't, I don't wanna be with anybody I know. 231 00:13:51,586 --> 00:13:57,406 And as I sat there quietly, he started yelling and ranting. 232 00:13:57,706 --> 00:13:58,786 He was so angry. 233 00:13:58,786 --> 00:14:01,276 He had so many strong emotions. 234 00:14:03,586 --> 00:14:04,516 Later that night. 235 00:14:05,460 --> 00:14:09,060 He's like, dude, I'm, I'm sorry about earlier I yelling at you. 236 00:14:09,060 --> 00:14:09,481 I was like, no. 237 00:14:09,481 --> 00:14:10,111 That's why I came. 238 00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:15,570 You needed somebody to yell at you needed somebody that you could 239 00:14:15,570 --> 00:14:18,090 blow up at and decompress this. 240 00:14:19,231 --> 00:14:20,011 That's why I came. 241 00:14:21,540 --> 00:14:22,680 He didn't need me to talk. 242 00:14:23,911 --> 00:14:25,080 He didn't even need me to listen. 243 00:14:25,261 --> 00:14:26,940 He just needed somebody to yell at. 244 00:14:28,021 --> 00:14:31,861 I was being empathetic because I understood my friend was hurting. 245 00:14:33,856 --> 00:14:36,826 And I understood what he needed because I understood his personality type. 246 00:14:37,606 --> 00:14:40,966 I understood his thinking style, his perspective. 247 00:14:41,295 --> 00:14:41,776 Right. 248 00:14:42,165 --> 00:14:43,966 These are the questions you ask. 249 00:14:43,966 --> 00:14:47,836 You don't have to, now I'm using a lot of negative experiences, right? 250 00:14:47,866 --> 00:14:52,305 But there are are positive emotions that we experience that you want 251 00:14:52,305 --> 00:14:54,886 to empathize with too, especially with like your kids, right? 252 00:14:55,756 --> 00:14:59,506 But sometimes we don't know how to do that because dad, you're not 253 00:14:59,511 --> 00:15:01,576 necessarily feeling their feelings. 254 00:15:01,966 --> 00:15:03,196 You're feeling a feeling. 255 00:15:03,736 --> 00:15:04,186 I love it. 256 00:15:04,186 --> 00:15:05,146 When my children are happy. 257 00:15:05,146 --> 00:15:09,646 It perks me up, but it doesn't mean I can experience their feeling. 258 00:15:09,646 --> 00:15:14,326 It does mean that I can recognize that they are experiencing a feeling, 259 00:15:14,716 --> 00:15:16,396 they're experiencing a positive. 260 00:15:16,396 --> 00:15:21,976 So I taking the action of understanding, being aware of, and 261 00:15:21,976 --> 00:15:25,696 being sensitive to what's going on with their thoughts and feelings 262 00:15:25,816 --> 00:15:27,376 as they're experiencing with them. 263 00:15:29,386 --> 00:15:30,256 That's still empty. 264 00:15:30,256 --> 00:15:30,736 Gentlemen. 265 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,381 It'll take you a long way in all of your relationships. 266 00:15:35,161 --> 00:15:39,090 You just have to let them experience their feeling, their feelings, be 267 00:15:39,096 --> 00:15:43,710 cognizant of the fact they're dealing with an emotion or a feeling positive, 268 00:15:43,715 --> 00:15:47,251 r ne negative and react with kindness. 269 00:15:49,771 --> 00:15:53,911 Kindness is, is like the coda gra it's, it's the topper on top of it. 270 00:15:53,940 --> 00:15:54,361 Okay? 271 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,450 This is the cherry on top of you eat that crap on your ice cream. 272 00:15:57,450 --> 00:15:58,950 I don't, my kids like them. 273 00:16:00,331 --> 00:16:01,711 But this is the cherry on top. 274 00:16:02,041 --> 00:16:02,521 Okay. 275 00:16:02,581 --> 00:16:06,061 React with kindness to their feelings. 276 00:16:06,871 --> 00:16:09,151 I let my friend yell at me for over an hour. 277 00:16:09,901 --> 00:16:10,681 It's what he needed. 278 00:16:11,311 --> 00:16:15,511 It was a kindness that I could offer him in a moment when he was struggling. 279 00:16:15,841 --> 00:16:19,381 This works in positive and negative emotions. 280 00:16:19,411 --> 00:16:20,911 It works with your kids. 281 00:16:21,661 --> 00:16:22,951 It worked with my coworker. 282 00:16:23,851 --> 00:16:25,531 I sat there, I thought it was stupid. 283 00:16:25,651 --> 00:16:26,401 Okay, hear me? 284 00:16:26,701 --> 00:16:31,471 I thought it was absurd and ridiculous and embarrassing that a grown man was reacting 285 00:16:31,471 --> 00:16:35,670 that way because I am not capable of understanding what he was going through. 286 00:16:37,501 --> 00:16:45,481 However, I sat there and I let him talk about his dog, and I offered 287 00:16:45,481 --> 00:16:49,951 him options like, Hey, if you need to go ahead and go home, I, I can. 288 00:16:50,071 --> 00:16:50,881 You don't gotta be here. 289 00:16:50,881 --> 00:16:51,451 I'm here. 290 00:16:51,976 --> 00:16:52,186 Right. 291 00:16:52,186 --> 00:16:53,746 If you need the rest of the day off go. 292 00:16:53,776 --> 00:16:55,936 'cause I could do that, right? 293 00:16:56,476 --> 00:16:58,516 I could listen to him talk about his dog. 294 00:16:59,716 --> 00:17:03,316 I could be less of an asshole to him that day than I normally was. 295 00:17:06,915 --> 00:17:07,606 Kindness. 296 00:17:08,056 --> 00:17:08,925 I understood. 297 00:17:09,165 --> 00:17:16,126 He had a feeling I could not do more than understand and be cognizant of his 298 00:17:16,126 --> 00:17:21,016 feelings and that he was experiencing that, but, I could do that and I could 299 00:17:21,016 --> 00:17:23,445 react with kindness, which is what I did. 300 00:17:23,445 --> 00:17:25,996 I did not say, wow, aren't you a grown man? 301 00:17:26,056 --> 00:17:26,866 What the hell? 302 00:17:27,496 --> 00:17:27,675 Right? 303 00:17:27,675 --> 00:17:28,636 I could have been that jerk. 304 00:17:30,826 --> 00:17:35,806 This works positive and negative emotions with your kids, with your 305 00:17:35,806 --> 00:17:38,596 coworkers, with romantic relationships. 306 00:17:39,016 --> 00:17:41,326 Kindness goes a long way in these situations. 307 00:17:41,626 --> 00:17:46,966 Don't believe that and overcomplicate the idea that you have to experience 308 00:17:46,966 --> 00:17:49,366 their emotion, feel the feels, man. 309 00:17:50,146 --> 00:17:56,056 You just have to understand they're having an emotion and react with kindness 310 00:17:56,206 --> 00:17:59,116 to that good emotion, bad emotion. 311 00:18:00,286 --> 00:18:01,636 React with kindness. 312 00:18:02,326 --> 00:18:07,336 I promise it will take you a long way in all your relationships and, 313 00:18:07,341 --> 00:18:09,106 and that's what empathy really is. 314 00:18:10,741 --> 00:18:14,881 My coworker noticed a difference in our interaction that day and actually brought 315 00:18:14,881 --> 00:18:16,921 it up later, like a couple weeks later. 316 00:18:16,921 --> 00:18:21,211 He is like, man, I, I guess even you can relate to losing a family pet. 317 00:18:22,231 --> 00:18:23,581 You know, I, I appreciate. 318 00:18:23,791 --> 00:18:26,911 I was like, I told, I, and I, I was honest with him, right? 319 00:18:26,911 --> 00:18:28,261 Because we were past the emotional moment. 320 00:18:28,261 --> 00:18:32,311 I said, you know, in total, honestly, I, I don't understand your reaction. 321 00:18:32,761 --> 00:18:34,351 I, I was raised very differently. 322 00:18:34,351 --> 00:18:41,221 I was raised the animals come and go and, uh, I, I totally thought it was insane 323 00:18:41,221 --> 00:18:46,441 that you were reacting that strongly, but I said, you know, I understood you were 324 00:18:46,441 --> 00:18:51,031 having a bad day and, and that was enough that, that's all I had to understand. 325 00:18:51,391 --> 00:18:52,651 You were having a rough day. 326 00:18:52,651 --> 00:18:56,311 So I tried to be kind in that moment. 327 00:18:56,641 --> 00:18:59,101 We had a better relationship after that. 328 00:18:59,371 --> 00:19:00,601 Like, it, it was crazy. 329 00:19:00,601 --> 00:19:03,391 It, it really kind of changed the course of our relationship. 330 00:19:04,381 --> 00:19:05,731 Don't overcomplicate it guys. 331 00:19:08,041 --> 00:19:10,441 Acknowledge it, recognize it. 332 00:19:10,531 --> 00:19:14,641 Understand that they're gonna do need some things that you may not understand to 333 00:19:14,641 --> 00:19:16,981 process through that feeling and be kind. 334 00:19:17,611 --> 00:19:19,051 And that's the key to empathy. 335 00:19:20,491 --> 00:19:24,811 It's easy data, and then a positive action on your part. 336 00:19:24,871 --> 00:19:25,381 That's all. 337 00:19:26,071 --> 00:19:27,481 Don't make it complicated. 338 00:19:27,481 --> 00:19:28,561 Don't make it stupid. 339 00:19:29,281 --> 00:19:30,781 You can do this, I promise. 340 00:19:30,781 --> 00:19:34,471 You'll be an empathy master if you exercise a few data points. 341 00:19:35,911 --> 00:19:38,251 And a little kindness Guys. 342 00:19:38,251 --> 00:19:42,991 It's Friday, so I wanna share this review with you 'cause we do 343 00:19:42,991 --> 00:19:44,261 that here on the show on Fridays. 344 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,181 Five star review from Love before a hundred. 345 00:19:48,421 --> 00:19:49,441 So good. 346 00:19:49,711 --> 00:19:51,811 I'm so happy this podcast exists. 347 00:19:52,051 --> 00:19:55,321 I love the episode on how to navigate relationships in a digital age. 348 00:19:55,531 --> 00:19:57,661 Super helpful, practical tips. 349 00:19:57,931 --> 00:19:58,561 Thank you. 350 00:19:58,951 --> 00:19:59,731 Love before hundred. 351 00:19:59,731 --> 00:20:01,171 Thank you so much for the review. 352 00:20:01,171 --> 00:20:02,221 Thank you for listening. 353 00:20:02,226 --> 00:20:02,792 You're very welcome. 354 00:20:03,811 --> 00:20:06,870 Uh, I love it when you guys call out specific episodes that 355 00:20:06,870 --> 00:20:08,101 just really clicked for you. 356 00:20:08,551 --> 00:20:10,531 'cause it helps me to know what kind of content I need 357 00:20:10,531 --> 00:20:11,701 to keep making for you guys. 358 00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:15,241 Guys, you've got this. 359 00:20:15,271 --> 00:20:19,801 Empathy is not complicated and it will be a turn point in a lot of your 360 00:20:19,801 --> 00:20:23,430 relationships for you if you listen to this and take this advice today. 361 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,201 As always, be better tomorrow because what you do today, 362 00:20:28,561 --> 00:20:29,371 We'll see you on the next one. 363 00:20:31,261 --> 00:20:33,661 This has been the Fallible Man Podcast. 364 00:20:34,321 --> 00:20:37,591 Your home for everything, man, husband, and father. 365 00:20:38,491 --> 00:20:40,801 Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss a show. 366 00:20:41,701 --> 00:20:48,391 Head over to www.thefallibleman.com for more content and get your own.