Chiropractor Turned Holistic Healer: Unveiling the Journey to Self-Healing and Inner Bliss

Welcome to the journey of an awakening spirit with your host Kathleen Flanagan.

The journey of an awakening spirit is about teaching you a variety of tools that you can use to step into your true self. It is about self discovery, realizing you are not alone on your journey. We will open the phone lines, give readings and talk about what our listeners want to know. So please welcome the host of the Journey of an awakening spirit.

Kathleen Flanagan.

KATHLEEN: Hello everyone and welcome to the journey of an awakening spirit. This is Kathleen Flanagan, your host and we are streaming on the Bold Brave TV Network. Today we have Doctor Lynn Carey who we will be speaking with. She is a chiropractor.

KATHLEEN: When I met her, we had some interesting conversations and some realizations about things that I didn't even know about my health. This should be a very interesting topic that we're going to have today with her. First we're going to start with sound, which will be love, happiness and balance.

KATHLEEN: Doctor Lynn Carey gathered a lot of insight, learning to heal herself after suffering with sickness and pain for many years in her 18 years practicing as a chiropractor, she saw the chronic stress was the main issue for most people not healing.

KATHLEEN: Chronic stress came from not enough time, not enough money and not having passion or purpose in life. She knows that creating a desired lifestyle is the key to ultimate well being. Welcome, Doctor Lynn.

LYNN: Thank you for having me, Kathleen. It's an honor to be here. I know you and I I have very similar philosophies. I was just watching your mastery of alignment and I thought, oh, we are so on the same page you were right on with everything you said. I highly recommend that for everyone.

KATHLEEN: Thank you. Thank you. Mine is the journey of a tough life, let's just say, and in the process of waking up in that. I know that when you and I had the conversation about scoliosis, which I think is really critical to talk about because that was such an eye opening experience for me.

KATHLEEN: First I want people to know who you are and where, where you started from and how you are here today. So what was your journey becoming an awakening spirit?

LYNN: I think I came into this lifetime knowing that there had to be more I like you felt severe depression as a child, as a teenager. I just didn't find joy that other people s seem to have joy like even kids playing and things like that. It just, you know, I could go along to get along but I really didn't see much happiness in my family.

LYNN: Everybody was just working hard and there was no time to rest and there was still never enough. That was that whole mindset. I'm also a recovering Catholic and, I just, it just, I never really brought into the dogma. I think I was just always felt the higher presence of, of a source of God or however you want to call it.

LYNN: I just was very depressed too. I truly believe that was the foundation of why I ended up having scoliosis because one of the emotional causes is if you're either your parents are pulling you in two different directions or, or they're going in two different directions or you're going in another direction than your parents.

LYNN: Like there's two different messages and it's pulling you in two directions and basically what my from what society to my mom to school was telling me one thing and I was feeling something else completely. Like I didn't want to be here either. If this is what life is, I want out, I felt that deeply and, you know, then you being Catholic, you feel guilty even feeling that way, right?

LYNN: That's because that's instilled too. You feel guilty for everything you do. I do believe that's what caused my scoliosis and I just did everything the medical world said because that's the only path I knew. I ended up having, spinal surgery where they put Harrington rods in my spine.

LYNN: The surgery itself was a success according to them. It left me sick and in pain for years that they could not answer why I kept getting sick. It was like another antibiotic, another painkiller, another thing and nothing helped. Then it fast forward about five years. I was 19 in college because they told me I had to go to college to be successful, even though I hated school.

LYNN: I worked really hard. I was an, a student, I was doing everything I was told.

LYNN: I just didn't, you know, I was trying to find myself and someone told me to look into the profession of chiropractic and the philosophy said the power that made the body heals the body.

LYNN: I thought that was the first time I heard truth. It just resonated. Like, you know, when you hear something that you never heard before, it was like this resonate resonance. I just went, I didn't even get adjusted. I just went to chiropractic school.

LYNN: That philosophy and that's where I started getting adjusted along with changing my mindset and being around all these, you know, like minded people who had a different view of health and it completely changed my life and it started my, my journey forward.

KATHLEEN: I have to say when you talked about, we have similar lives. That's very clear. You're saying things was like, ok, I haven't talked about that in years and that's exactly where I was at. But the scoliosis when we talked the first time and you said we were being pulled in two different directions.

KATHLEEN: I had never heard that before and I was like, oh my God, that is so where I was as a teenager too, you know, suicidal, didn't want to be here. I was bound and determined to die. I was actually working on implementing that at 16 years old because if my parents' life was gonna be my life, I would rather be dead because that was not a life in my opinion.

KATHLEEN: The scoliosis was there and I had a really nasty uncle who every time he walked in the house because my shoulders were hunched over would come in and just whack me on the back really hard to get me to stand up straight and my parents allowed this.

KATHLEEN: First of all, you don't touch anyone like that, especially a girl when you're a man. And then how dare you even do that? I mean, because he really, it was not a light tap, it was a whack on the back where it was instant you're just walking around like that.

KATHLEEN: When you said that, I remember I knew that somewhere deep inside I could heal that about myself. I don't know why I did, but I moved to Florida and I remember somebody telling me one day asking me saying, have you been in the military? They said no, why? Because you stand so tall and erect, your posture is like a military person.

KATHLEEN: OK. What a thing because for someone who is really consciously working on scoliosis, but then I didn't realize at that time, it was about me connecting with me, connecting with spirit, connecting with my own inner self. I was too young at that point to understand what I was doing. But I just knew somewhere I could do that and I was diagnosed with scoliosis by chiropractors.

KATHLEEN: I actually have the X rays and everything to show that it was there. I really did a lot of work to like, I need to get through this, but I didn't do the regular adjustments because that back cracking made me crazy. I felt good, but it made me crazy.

LYNN: You might have had a chiropractor who didn't resonate with their energy, especially if you're sensitive to energy. Because my, this profession, I mean, I guess any profession is, but you, there is such a wide variety of chiropractors in it. A lot of them. I don't agree with, I think a lot of them are clueless.

LYNN: They, maybe they never had their own he healing experiment and a lot of them just want to join the ranks of the medical world instead of honoring that we're something unique and different. In my opinion, better because of what's going on with this medical world, it's not really about healing anymore about big pharma, you know, and all the drugs and all the intervention.

LYNN: I learned that in school. But, having my own experience of healing you just can walk into so many chiropractors, different chiropractors are completely different experiences. I'd be like, God, that person calls himself a chiropractor too.

LYNN: I don't like saying that I'm a chiropractor and they're a chiropractor too because we're so different. I say that maybe the energy was off even the way he adjusted you. I've had weird adjustments. So maybe that was part of it.

KATHLEEN: It could be because I know that I had one where she was a natural path as well. When I was going in, when I had Coptis from too many antibiotics when I came close to death in my late thirties, she, she was a chiropractor as well and she didn't do a lot, but she did enough to like really help with my neck.

KATHLEEN: I had a birth trauma because they used the forceps and did this to my neck and I had three vertebras literally on their side. I spent years and years and years in pain. I managed to finally between massage and some chiropractic work with somebody who was good.

KATHLEEN: I am managed to get at least two of the three, the third one still pops out every now and then. It's not, but not nothing like what it used to be. I used to just sit here and try to push it back in when it would pop out. But I realized that that was a birth injury.

KATHLEEN: I didn't know that at the time because my grandmother had said something to me when I was older and said, your head was like this when I was born. I mean, it was just crooked. What do you do? I don't know what the doctors did at that point but she noticed it and that explained a lot.

KATHLEEN: Yes, welcome to the world. This is not a safe place to be. The messages from the onset of my life was it's not safe, you're not loved, you're not wanted. All we want to do is hurt you. I walked around pretty much for the 1st 20 years of my life like that until I started changing and looking at there's got to be something different and better.

KATHLEEN: Even though I didn't have health issues, I had a lot of head garbage. But yet I also noticed that when I got sick, my head garbage got worse and not that I got sick a lot, but when I did it was no, just, no, I couldn't stand being sick. I thought it was just such a waste of time and today if you're gonna get sick, it's just like you got 24 hours to do your thing because they like it.

LYNN: That's the only time we stop.

LYNN: We're trained in society. It's not good to rest or be still or do nothing.

LYNN: A lot of us get sick because that's the, the only way out. And I specifically remember being in the hospital having my surgery thinking well, all drugged up in the hospital. Horrible. Right. Couldn't even walk thinking this is better than my life. At least I have a break.

LYNN: Like, how crazy is that?

KATHLEEN: It is crazy. That is crazy because I learned along the way to just, I do stop and I rest, I spend a lot of time by myself because I liked myself. I had to learn to like myself, you know, and when I moved in by myself, when I was about 21 years old because I used to live with like six women and it was great at that time.

KATHLEEN: There was a point of I just don't want to be around all of that anymore. There was something calling me to do to be like, you gotta learn who you are because I was getting lost, living with six women as I was lost in my family. You know, everything was always people, people, people and who am I?

KATHLEEN: Where am I? What am I thinking? How do I feel? I don't know because I was like at this chameleon back then. And so when I got by myself is when I started really doing a lot of looking at myself, a lot of spiritual connection. Mother Mary would come into my room at night because I was dealing with my mental health issues.

KATHLEEN: My father was neurotic, probably maybe more psychotic than neurotic. But I, I was dealing with that all that stuff cause I thought I was crazy for the longest time because I'm hearing things and people don't hear what I'm hearing and I thought everybody at one time could do that and they didn't.

KATHLEEN: It was just this long journey of just self-discovery and part of it just mean meant I had to just like be OK with myself, and that wasn't the necessarily the easiest thing in the world to do and alternatives weren't out there yet for me. So if I did anything happen, there was, it was still you go to the doctor and you know, and I didn't like doctors.

KATHLEEN: I didn't trust them at all.

KATHLEEN: Dr. Lynn, tell us a little bit more about the journey because even though this resonated with you being a chiropractor, there had to be a lot of changes because your philosophy has changed over the years from what you've experienced.

KATHLEEN: Did you meet a lot of people that had very similar things? Was it something you just observed? Did it take, how long did it take for you to really start seeing a bigger picture?

KATHLEEN: As we mature, we start seeing more than we do when we're younger. So how long did it take you to start discovering the things that you did about self-healing and self-mastery over your health and your well-being?

LYNN: I think it was a process of starting chiropractic school where I was actually learning that with the chiropractic philosophy, we learned that there is an inner wisdom that runs the body, we called it innate intelligence.

LYNN: We were always trying to say, well, what is the body trying to do? We don't look at, at symptoms as necessarily bad. We, there's a purpose for them. Your body does everything with a purpose to heal itself.

LYNN: That was the intent and the intent was just to if there was any misalignment in the spine, which is basically the each vertebrae should be moving properly when it stops moving, that just interferes with how the brain communicates with the body because your nervous system is housed through the spine and exits through the spine to communicate to the rest of the body.

LYNN: It wasn't about fixing anything. It was just clearing out interference so the body could heal itself. And I had a lot of trauma to my spine. I had missing spinal parts and it took time years, I was probably sick for the last five years and nothing that the medical world could do helped me. I had nothing but time and they said it takes time to heal.

LYNN: I would say it probably took me the first two years in chop private school to truly get out of pain regularly. It would be on and off really severe bouts because the thing is too, is when your body is healing a lot of times pain becomes worse. I always say you have to feel it to heal it. That could be applied to emotional stuff too, right?

LYNN: That was the journey. It was more physical for me. I would say halfway through, I started noticing the emotional correlation because my first chiropractor was really he was a higher up student who he taught me so much how to be a chiropractor.

LYNN: He was just, he was fantastic because I actually started with one of the chiropractors who was a professor at the school and she just wasn't, she wasn't cutting it. I was getting adjusted by her for six months. And I think she was afraid to touch my spine. This higher up student was kind of on the journey with me because we had like after school clubs where we would learn from other chiropractors and kind of practice.

LYNN: I couldn't have anybody practice on my spine, but I would go and learn. He just said, do you want me to check you? I said, yeah, and he always went with what he felt and he started adjusting me with what he felt with his hands and I started feeling a difference.

LYNN: He was graduating and the last time he adjusted me before he left my back went out really bad. I realized I'm like, that's crazy. Every time he adjusts me, I usually not that it was a quick fix, it was never like this dramatic where I felt like works really bad.

LYNN: Like my back was out and I realized I was terrified of losing my chiropractor. I was emotionally attached with him. He was my foundation. I saw that connection because then I started coming out of that, I also noticed I was studying really hard. I was a crazy perfectionist type.

LYNN: I worked really hard to the point of exhaustion. That was my paradigm. And it really came to the forefront in the last couple of years at chiropractic school. I was studying really hard for this test and had a headache like that all year, like everything, I did the adjustments, massage, diet, like everything.

LYNN: Until I was studying for this test and when it was over is when the headache finally cleared up. And I saw, I'm like, I was so worried about that test because it would pay like half tuition. It was like something I could do for my mom. It was like all this pressure I put on myself.

LYNN: I saw I was really starting to connect the dots. Then it wasn't until I went back to my hometown after chiropractic school because I thought I was gonna go back to my hometown and share this message of how I'm doing so much better. How we heal ourselves.

LYNN: This whole philosophy of chiropractic, I thought go to go back and change the world. I swear I opened up my, which that's a whole other story is me even trying to figure out how to open up a practice because nobody taught me about money or business in school, but you got nothing practical in school.

LYNN: I'm figuring out this out blindly and just kind of horrified by how I, I see how real life works, but it was like I opened up my doors to my practice and it was like spirit took over and I swear I went into fast forward about how healing happens. Money, finance, how the world works, how it was affecting people and their health.

LYNN: I felt like it was really, really stirred up once I got into practice.

KATHLEEN: I know that the back is a support. On the metaphysical side, you're carrying the weight on your shoulders. Money issues at the lower spine center is you're not feeling supported. It would make sense that your back would go out to me.

KATHLEEN: You saying that that this person was a very strong support in your life and when you thought you were going to lose him, your support left you. What did you have to do? You had to start finding that inside of yourself. You know, like here I'm, I'm out of school.

KATHLEEN: I'm doing good and then oh my God, what do I have to do next on? Thank God because you listen to your spirit because we're never alone. Spirit is always guiding us. We come out and I'm gonna go change the world and we have no clue what to do.

KATHLEEN: Spirit is there and they're standing behind you, they're gonna help you succeed. What a cool thing to experience because we, we don't learn anything about business when we're, I mean, we know how to do a little bit with money but running a business cash flow, hiring people paying rent all that kind of stuff aside from your house rent, you know, and food.

KATHLEEN: There's that huge responsibility that comes on and I think when I was younger, I was like, I wasn't about to take that on because that just terrified me. I could barely, I mean, I could pay my bills.

KATHLEEN: That wasn't the issue, but it was the whole point of taking on responsibility for someone else was very challenging, yet I was willing to help people and work on people, but it was for free because I didn't think there was a worthiness issue in there. I just love how much you trusted as you went into the world that resonated with you.

KATHLEEN: Here I am coming up from another side and I still made, it doesn't matter. We're all gonna make it and survive if we choose to, you know, and it all comes to the mindset because what you're saying is you had to look at your mindset. You had to look at your paradigms.

KATHLEEN: What else did that look like as you were growing your business and bringing in possibly new clients and employees and all of that? What else went on? There was more, as you took on more energy and responsibility, there were some more changes going on in your life.

LYNN: I really just started teaching myself. I just started reading books and I came across a book called Rich Dead, Poor Dead by Robert Kiyosaki. And that changed forever. How I looked at finances just kind of like how chiropractic forever changed, how I viewed health.

LYNN: He talked about building assets versus trading time for money. I really had a difficult time being paid for my chiropractic services because it was such a purpose and a passion for mine, of mine and how it changed my life. I never even thought that I would feel that way.

LYNN: You don't know how you're going to react to something until you're in the situation and things that were coming up for me that I never even contemplated. I thought, oh, now I have to get people in the door. Are they thinking that I'm telling them to get adjusted? Because now I have to get paid?

LYNN: I was like, this is weird. It was a weird concept for me. Then I saw chiropractor, colleagues of mine that were very principled chiropractors in chiropractic school.

LYNN: When they got into practice to me, they were compromising their principles, they started doing things to get people in the door that I didn't agree with doing, taking insurance that wanted to dictate how they practiced putting. Actually, I felt fear into people that they had to be there to get adjusted because look what this X ray says instead of giving them hope and healing.

LYNN: I thought, I'm not practice, I will never compromise myself. I'll do something else because that's just not what it's all about. I've always been about the principal side. I did some mission work.

LYNN: I went to Brazil and India during this time just because I got invited on a couple of trips with other chiropractors that they wanted to take chiropractic abroad. You know, people that in their practice saying, hey, my hometown is in this little town in Brazil. Can you bring chiropractic there? We just went.

LYNN: What a gift because I got to go and just adjust people all day long. They couldn't even speak the language. I mean, we had translators but really, people were just lining up to be on my table and it was just energy.

LYNN: I was able to really just feel their energy, adjust them and set them and let them go. And we went into such a high state of vibration. Like this was the first time I felt out of body high, you know, and there was no drugs involved. It wasn't like I was drinking, it was like natural.

LYNN: High. I didn't understand what was happening because when I came home, it was like I crashed again, I felt the depression because it went from so high to then like, no normal life wasn't.

LYNN: I knew I tapped into something and eventually it caught up with me where I had, you know, different processes. The third trip I came back and I ended up going into a bliss state for like 18 months at home. I realized I'm OK, this is what everybody, this is what everybody's looking for. I'm adjusting people to raise the vibration, right?

LYNN: I want them to be able to tap into this interstate, but they need to learn to do it on their own. That's when all the stuff you were teaching with the mastery of alignment. What, why am I aligning this mind? Like, you know, it was like, it was such a metaphor for life and and I realized that's what everybody's looking for. They think they want the next relationship.

LYNN: They want more money, they want the bigger house or they want the next trip. But they're really just looking for the bliss state within. We've been so dumbed down and numbed out in this matrix of a society that we don't know who we are anymore. But we, we know and innately it's there. But that's why we, nobody talks about it. I think we're talking about it now. I think there's a huge shift happening.

LYNN: I realized I was watching people coming into my office and I realized, you know, they're not connecting the emotional stress that they're under in their lives with. Why they need the adjustment. Why is that causing them stress? Why is that blocking the energy in their body that they want me to fix where I became more passionate about? Well, how can you do the adjustment yourself? I can adjust you all day long.

LYNN: If you're not doing the inner work, the mastery of alignment, right? How can we get ourselves into this bliss state and that be our normal state and then create your life from that place, become financially free. Have healthy habits, have a great mindset. Look for the happiness, the gratitude. So it was all these things were coming together for me in like the I would say the first five years of practice.

KATHLEEN: Wow, that's amazing. That's amazing. Did you share that with your clients about how to start aligning? Did you take that one step further to start educating them? Because I know for me alignment was huge and because I knew what that connection was and when I didn't have it, I was depressed.

KATHLEEN: I knew I had to get back into that. Meditation was probably the biggest thing that helped me to really make that connection with spirit and to stay in that connection with spirit because it opened that channel because I discovered that I wasn't this God awful horrible person that didn't deserve to be here, that I did matter.

KATHLEEN: I did have a purpose and it was through meditation that helped me with a lot of that. I was able to just move forward and start experimenting a little bit more where I felt a little bit more secure in just what I was doing. Maybe not the best. I didn't feel like I was on solid ground, but I just knew spirit wouldn't harm me.

KATHLEEN: They would protect me. I have always known that about this. So did you do things like that to help people to kind of shift their perspective a little bit because shifting your perspective just a little bit is miles and miles and miles apart in moving in that direction of where they want to go down the road.

LYNN: Absolutely. I definitely know my verbiage has evolved when I went into that state, I had no words to what I was experiencing. I was trying to figure out what, you know, put words to it. How do you describe this? I make a rational understanding when there is no rational, you know, it was like this.

LYNN: I started reading and, you know, like saints who had these altered experiences, Hafiz Rumi, that the Sufi poets, like they start what they, in their poetry described the experience I had. That's what I like. But so I was, I was trying to make the connection with telling people it in the beginning, it was more mechanical like the birth trauma.

LYNN: I would say you can get misaligned from the birth trauma. You mentioned that, right. That's why I had my son at home without the medical interference because I saw one of them main things that cause interference is all the medical intervention that happened, especially in the birth process. They treat it like a disease instead of a natural process. It's huge. I adjusted my son since he was born.

LYNN: That was one thing, more mechanical like that. Then I started incorporating the mindset. I always had a quote on like a whiteboard. People could change their perspective, you know, have a positive thought for the day I have different like flyers that I would give out each week on positive thought, positive things. A positive story. How we heal.

LYNN: Then I would recommend to people, Louise, Hay, you can heal your body and she has that chart the emotional cause behind the symptom, I think that's huge. I think people need to understand the emotional connection behind and I say, play your detective journal. Why do you think you're in the state? Why do you think this symptom or pain is showing up?

LYNN: You know what I noticed is, and this is where my frustration was. I just felt that most people, oh, that's great. But then they would come in the next week or the next month or whatever and they didn't do anything that I said, it was like, oh, just fix me, let me just get on with my life.

LYNN: I have bills to pay. I have kids to run after and, and I just never got into it. And then, you know, I'd have to hear the same stories over and over again. I didn't get into it for the small talk. I didn't get into it to be the town doctor. I didn't, you know, my vision for myself was expanding. It kind of walked the line.

LYNN: It had a mainstream facade, but it's also very spiritual if you're really doing the right thing. And for me, I was taken off on a spiritual place that, you know, I think I was a little ahead of you know where we are now. I do believe there is a massive shift, like I said, coming now, things are so different than in 1998 when I opened up my practice.

KATHLEEN: Well, that goes without saying, you're definitely a fore leader out there in the world of spirituality and chiropractic because it was bone crunching. That's pretty much how most chiropractors looked at it were bone crunchers and like, well, I don't like my bones being crunched, especially in my neck because it just freaked me out because I was so sensitive to my neck.

KATHLEEN: I couldn't even do headstands and I didn't even know why I couldn't do headstands when I was in high school. There were things I could not do at all, period. My dance, ballroom dancing definitely straightened my neck out a lot too because, you know, the way you hold it, I'm like, what are these things growing right here? Oh, muscle.

KATHLEEN: You see things and it's like, do I have like something going on? Do I have cancer growing? You go down this weird negative place and then it's no Kath, no, this is muscle because the way you're holding your posture in such a way and my neck is the strongest my neck I've ever been.

LYNN: I just had a little aha moment like you probably didn't like someone cracking your neck too because you remember the birth trauma, right when the doctor did whatever he did to pull you out or however it happened because there's so much trauma when you're born in a hospital in the medical way that nobody talks about. So you already probably had a sense of memory.

LYNN: That wasn't a good experience, but maybe you were able to heal it through the ballroom dancing. Happiness is key. You found your flow in dancing so you could release that right? Not only building up the muscles, but you were changing the whole dynamic of your body because you were in flow, happiness is key to healing.

KATHLEEN: I know. The book's dancing Soul came out. I mean, these are the two books, published books, but this was all about dancing because everything changed. When I danced, everything changed. I made a connection with my dance partner that when we got into that dance position because this was the second studio I had gone to and we connected and I jumped back from him.

KATHLEEN: What the hell are you doing? I'm just getting into dance position. That is not what happened to this girl because every chakra went all the way up to the c all the way up, every chakra was lit up and I was freaked out because I had never touched a human like that where something hit me to that degree.

KATHLEEN: I was on this immense whirlwind for years because of it. All through the book, it was about and all the trauma in my own brain was connecting with another person in the dance of life. If you can dance with somebody in ballroom clothes, you can dance, you can work with them. Because the guy I was with at the time, we did ballroom dancing.

KATHLEEN: I couldn't dance with them. I was like, go away, just go away because he was so controlling and I couldn't handle the control the way he danced and, and it was nothing wrong with him. It was just, I couldn't dance that way because I was being constricted and with my other partner, what was the biggest thing I had told him over the years? I don't trust you.

KATHLEEN: Well, why not? Well, I think you're going to dance me into a wall because I can't see behind me. So here's a trust issue coming out because I had, I had no trust with anybody. So here's this trust issue coming out because I think he's gonna dance me into a wall because I can't see behind me. I see a peripheral vision which of course is always closer than where it is.

KATHLEEN: The one time that we almost went into a wall and it was by a sheer fluke or maybe spirit did it intentionally. It's hard to say he flipped around so fast and hit the wall where I didn't get hit.

KATHLEEN: Oh.

LYNN: Oh, wow.

KATHLEEN: This, this 24 year old kid at the time was really helping me to overcome so much garbage that I was carrying. And I had no idea I was carrying as much as I was until I got into this dance, ballroom dance with this 24 year old kid.

KATHLEEN: He was one of the most amazing teachers for me, but I was for him too because what did I do? I ignited his spiritual growth.

KATHLEEN: That's right.

KATHLEEN: That's the dance of life. I think you're absolutely right about because when anybody would ever adjust my neck and I hear that cracking, I would just cringe and just about come off the table and they would always do it when they would wait until they knew I wasn't conscious about it.

KATHLEEN: It was like they knew I was tense. I was tense. I was tense and then somewhere I was like, oh, they're not going to do it and I relax and they hit me kind of like the birth trauma, I think. And, and that's what it was like.

KATHLEEN: When the last doctor I had, when she had Thumper, I called it Thumper. She called it Thumper. Too where she had that little thing where you just hit it and it just punches, you know, and it's soft.

KATHLEEN: I don't know what it's called, but we called it Thumper and when she adjusted my neck that way, that was like I could handle that because it wasn't crunching and all of that stuff that goes on and it wasn't all the sounds. It was just to me it was a very gentle way of helping my neck remember where it belongs.

LYNN: Yeah, that's right.

LYNN: Isn't that what we're trying to do?

KATHLEEN: Try to get our body to remember how it's supposed to be, come back into homeostasis.

LYNN: Yeah, that's exactly what it is. I think there is a key component to getting adjustments because we have to get reconnected with our body. I know I was not connected with my, but I probably left it a long time ago. It was like a walking corpse. Because I had so much trauma and I just didn't want to be here anyway and all the pain and everything.

LYNN: The emotion, I don't think we can separate the emotions and the mental stress and the physical because it's all energy. If you're not able to handle emotional and mental stress, it gets locked up in the body. We have to kind of get that energy flowing again.

LYNN: I think adjustments are a key part of that, especially if you're just starting out but know that it's not the chiropractor doing it for you. It's just he or she could be a, just a mentor until you start to get in Tune with your own energy again. You know, and I think that should be just one part. But yeah, I think you still have to really examine what's going on in your inner world, right?

KATHLEEN: I want to elaborate on that more because some things came up in my mind as you were saying that that I think are very profound and need to be brought to the forefront about our connection with our bodies. 

KATHLEEN: The one thing that you said is that when you were disassociated or disconnected from your body from all the pain.

KATHLEEN: I understand that because I actually left my body and did not come back into it until I was about 52. I took a long time of not being connected with my body. I actually had an acupuncturist decided one day she was going to put me back in my body without my consent or knowledge.

KATHLEEN: I remember coming home and I could feel the blood in my veins. That's how grounded she put me in my body where I felt the blood and I was not a happy camper and it took me a year to get out of my body from that because, and, and I never went back to her again.

KATHLEEN: There was a lot of problems with, she had a lot of problems and, you know, and acupuncture scared me after a while because if you're the, the physician doing the work, you're piercing your garbage into somebody's body.

KATHLEEN: There's no way to control that because it's actually going through, it's being conducted through a needle into your body. I ended up taking a lot of that garbage on and I was not a happy camper. So acupuncturists scare me. Now, I know there's a lot of good acupuncturists out there.

KATHLEEN: I've had some really good treatments but not so much anymore. I know, certain things just really make me nervous because I've had bad experiences and it's not that I thought I had a bad doctor. It was, she just had too much drama in her life. Too much weird stuff and it went in.

KATHLEEN: SWhen you talked about being out of your body, the one thing that I noticed when I was out of my body was that I was still tuned into my body. I may not have felt a lot of things. I may not remember most of my life because of it because people can say, well, you said this. Well, that's what I would have said. But I don't remember any of it.

KATHLEEN: Literally, I didn't, I do not remember the 90% of my life. I'm OK with that when I came back in, I remember, but the thing was, is I was still connected to my body that even if I didn't know what was wrong with me, I knew something was wrong and I could describe things because I just knew like when I was getting a divorce, my thyroid went out.

KATHLEEN: Of course, when I discovered that, what's the first thing I do? I'm gonna because they want to cut it out and it's like, oh, you are not cutting out my thyroid. There is no way you are doing that. I went out and researched the value of that gland. It was like, oh yeah. I'm gonna be like a 300 pound blimp walking around because I, and I'm gonna be on meds the rest of my life. Oh, I don't think so.

KATHLEEN: I it was just no.

KATHLEEN: Doctors don't necessarily like you taking control of your health like that, but I didn't care.

KATHLEEN: It's my body, it's my body. It's always been my body.

KATHLEEN: He put me on these meds and I kept going back and saying you need to drop the medication. Now, I don't know what I started out at, at all because I have no clue of what that was. I said you need to drop the meds, you need to drop the meds. And every time he took a blood test and we dropped the meds, he's like, how do you know this?

KATHLEEN: I said, because I listened to my body and, and I knew, he knew what I meant by that. You know, that wasn't like something he hadn't heard before. He was just surprised that somebody knew their body. I said, I can't fix what's wrong with me right now.

KATHLEEN: I know when something needs to change. And so when the, after the year he did, I said, I'm getting off the meds and he says, no, you're not. And I said, yes, I am. He says, no, your thyroid is still at seven. I said, well, that's where my thyroid lives because I'm back to normal.

KATHLEEN: Well, I'm not giving you a clean bill of health. I said, I don't give a shit what you do.

KATHLEEN: I'm healthy, I'm fine and I'm done and then all those drugs were coming out whatever that was, I thought for, I mean, months and months and months I just sat there because it all came out of my stomach. Right. So I'm scratching my stomach like on the outside because I was so afraid I was going to be permanently damaged from all these fissures coming out of this medication.

KATHLEEN: If I don't ever have to go on drugs again, I'm not going to, it's like, I don't know what was in those drugs to cause that. And it's like if this is what it feels like coming out, what was it doing on the inside of my body?

KATHLEEN: I was detoxing because where was my thinking? I'm healthy, I'm healing. I got rid of the X, you know, life is good again. You know, I didn't need all of that garbage of him anymore. You know, I mean, it was like I was coming to peace and because of that, my body was accelerating its own health as well.

KATHLEEN: Did you find that when you, when you came back into your body and you were starting to heal? You feel all of it.

LYNN: That as I got off everything I was on and I started piecing and I realized I had one final trip to the doctor for something and they screwed it up caused me trauma and I'm like, I'm never coming back to these people again. I don't want what you have to offer, like I already knew in chiropractic school how they analyzed the body and it was asked backwards.

LYNN: If people understood that, they don't know. If they saw that they don't even understand healing, they just know drugs and surgery, they either can cut it out or drug it. I realized, I mean, that was the most empowering thing for me.

LYNN: I'm not going back to you because I don't want what you have to offer. Not many people are in a position to tell their doctor I'm done. I'm done with you. Like a lot of people are so afraid. That's why I like to empower people. Like probably the worst thing you can do is go to the doctor and get a diagnosis because now you're creating it.

LYNN: Like now you have fear that you have it and you're thinking about it and you're living around it and creating this. I mean, the worst thing you can do now, granted, am I going to publicly? They can't go to the doctors? No, I realize everybody has to get to this place within themselves.

LYNN: It's a personal journey. I say to you, question your doctor, question everything he says to you and then go to every alternative healer, read things, educate yourself, become your own best doctor and get in Tune with what's going on with your body. Take the pieces that resonate with you.

LYNN: It's just energy labels don't matter. I don't care what disease, disease they call it. They have a million labels. A million drugs. It's energy flow. How are you stopping your energy flow? It's cause you're stressed about something or something's out of balance in your life most of the time. It's because people aren't happy.

LYNN: They don't have purpose, they don't have time freedom. They're just living in the rat race of this matrix that's set up for us. It's about de deconstructing all that and really creating the life that you want. And that's how you get in Tune with it. You know, and, but it's a process, I mean, this was a journey of years for me and making educated choices for myself.

LYNN: I was blessed to be able to do that for my son. You know, he's never even been, he's 17 years old. He's never even been to a medical doctor. He's never had to go and he's very in Tune with him. His body, he makes choices for himself, which is amazing. But that's because I was educated but I know not every mom can do that.

LYNN: I'm not to instill guilt and I had a lot of compassion for moms trying to make these decisions when they were questioning. I mean, if that's a whole thing, but it's just about, we have to become our own best doctors get in Tune with the energy flow of your body. Get in Tune with the energy flow of your life. It's all one. We create our own reality.

LYNN: There's nothing to fear. That's the thing too. There's nothing to fear about what you are so called label with right now. Look at it as a gift to your awakening because you can, anything can heal and it's there for you to transform, right?

KATHLEEN: I broke this bone in this right here. Lo elongated break in my bone in my hand. First bone break I ever had in my life wasn't happy. What did I do? I was OK, well, I think I just pulled a tendon. That's how I decided and I kept working because, you know, what do I know? Right.

KATHLEEN: I kept working and I'm driving home from Wyoming going God, his hand still really freaking hurts. Go home, have a couple of Advil, have a glass of wine, put some ice on it. You'll be fine in the morning. That was the doctor's recommendation and that's exactly what I did and the hand stopped turning. I woke up the next morning and it was so puffed out.

KATHLEEN: I think I did something to my hand, you know, so you're trying not to let fear or anything take over because you're trying to keep light of it because it's like I don't know what I did. I must have broke a bone somewhere. I mean, I know exactly when it happened, I almost completely lost it when I saw the break from the X ray.

KATHLEEN: Wow, you do good. I said, well, you know, I never do anything half as, you know, and I'm trying not to hold back because I was so terrified and freaked out about what did I do? Why did I do this? It wasn't that it was a stupid accident. It was like there's a reason, spirits stopping me for something.

KATHLEEN: Ok? God, I'm already going so slow. I could be dead. Now. You want me to really be dead? Really? Why don't you just let me die? That I mean, it was like this drama came out over this because, but I had to, I literally had to stop. I mean, they literally wanted me to stop moving. Period. End of story. That was it.

KATHLEEN: I did because you know what? You can't do anything when you have a broken hand, I couldn't even wash my hair.

KATHLEEN: I mean, I couldn't do anything. It was one of those things of ok, I have to ask for help and support.

KATHLEEN: I need to be gracious about this. I need to honor the pain because oh, oh did I whoa There was panic that showed up in my body from a broken bone. I mean, things that I've never experienced and I'm like, ok, where's this panic coming from? And that's all I ever did was just talk to my body. It's like what's going on, you know, how is this?

KATHLEEN: When it was healed more or less, and I'm in physical therapy and the weakness in my hand and, and every time I would go in for my checkup and get an X ray to see how the bone was healing, I had the best P A ever. I mean, she was so about, you know, alternative healing even though she's a P A. And she said, I don't know what you're doing but keep it up.

KATHLEEN: I said, well, I'm doing a lot of energy work on my hand. I'm sending energy to heal it that, you know, all this stuff. I was just doing all this and fighting depression every step of the way. She knew I was fighting depression because I, I didn't, I didn't understand the full effect of what this was about.

KATHLEEN: I do now and I really did need to stop because things were coming towards me. If I was not stopped to the degree that I was stopped, I would have missed it like this show because I would never have answered that email. Never, never, never, never, in a million years would have answered that email that I got it. Then it just intrigued me.

KATHLEEN: Let's check it out. Talk about it was a gift and there's always, if something's wrong with our body, it's usually a wake up call for us. It's something that's going to shift us in our direction, shift our perception. It's a shift. It's nothing bad because I didn't intentionally break my hand.

KATHLEEN: Somehow I think spirit knew I was going to break my hand and I kind of got a little inkling that something's coming up. That's not what it should be. I couldn't pinpoint it until I did it.

KATHLEEN: It was it's perfect. It's, but, you know, it's the mindset. It all came down to still being in my mindset and I wouldn't take drugs. That was the one thing is like, no, I will feel my pain before I ever take drugs. But what I needed was an anti-inflammatory.

KATHLEEN: That's the only thing I took, which was a little bit higher than Advil, but it was not a prescription drug. It was a prescription but it wasn't anything narcotic in it because I refused to take any kind of narcotics.

KATHLEEN: That was the only thing I took because that pain, that cold bone pain. Oh, it was horrible. It was horrible anyway.

LYNN: What's beautiful about that story is that just how the process of what you went through to acknowledge your fear and talk yourself through it and just be present with it and, and work yourself through it. That's like the best thing you can do. That's such a perfect story.

KATHLEEN: It is. I learned a lot because of it because I had to be ok with what I had done. I had to be ok with it. So because I didn't want to be nasty or mean or grumpy, I just wanted to be ok and, and I took care of myself during that process.

KATHLEEN: Doctor Lynn, tell us how people can get a hold of you.

LYNN: I have a website creating my desired life dot com and you can find my book on there. You can email me a question or you can get on my mailing list.

KATHLEEN: Great. I'm so happy that you were here and I love the fact that we just kind of tore apart the medical community just a little bit, but not in a negative way, but in a way that we become more self-empowered and to be in your profession and doing what you're doing and having the enlightenment that you've had.

KATHLEEN: What a gift to bring this to the world, for people to start helping to take care of their life and control themselves because it really is about self mastery. And we are the only ones that heal us. A doctor never heals us. It's always, always, always us.

LYNN: It's all about empowerment, self-empowerment.

KATHLEEN: It totally is. I want to thank you all for joining us today and joining with Doctor Carey and I. If you'd like, I'd love for you to leave a comment below of how, what your thoughts are about the show where we can address them or talk to you.

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