282. Experience Subtle Energy and Instant Pain Relief - Master Healer Charles Matthew

 [00:00:00] This is a recording from a special live stream. I hosted with master healer, Charles Matthew. Charles began his transition from engineer and self-proclaimed geek. To energy healer back in the sixties. He has a fascinating background, which we get into later in the episode. He came out of retirement recently and is passionate about helping people to relieve their pain, 

as well as passing along his knowledge to train a new generation, to tap into their healing abilities. He wants to be connected to those who want to work with him on healing. Learning his methods or who want to connect about his crystals. He talks in this episode about how he programs crystals. And I know there are a lot of people out there who would be interested in that. [00:01:00] So the best way to get in touch with Charles at this time is to shoot me an email, which you can reach me at kara@karagoodwin.com. And I'll be happy to connect you. And by the way, if you want to be part of future live stream, such as this, be sure you're on my mailing list. Just go to my website, Karagoodwin.com. And at the very bottom, you can enter your details to be added. And that way you'll be alerted when these events become available for free registration. And before we get started a quick word about Komuso take control of your stress with this necklace. That is not only beautiful, but powerful. It works within seconds has zero maintenance and helps you increase, focus. Lower your heart rate, sleep better and reduce anxiety. This is a great product. It's a great gift. Check out episode 240, where I talked to the founder, Todd Steinberg. That episode is jam packed with useful insight about how to calm your body [00:02:00] and mind. Use promo code KaraGoodwin15 to get 15% off. And check out all of the partners of the meditation conversation podcast, which you can get to through themeditationconversation.com. And if you love this episode, as much as I do, please, please, please send it on to anyone in your life who would also be interested in it. Let us grow this light on the planet by sharing the high vibe content we come across. I would also be so grateful for you to subscribe to the podcast. To rate it, review it. I'm sure that you know, that all of these are little ways that you can help support the show. Thank you so much and enjoy this episode welcome everybody. Thank you so much for being here. I'm so excited to be with all of you today. My name is Kara Goodwin. I'm the host of the meditation conversation podcast, and we are live streaming [00:03:00] this, webinar for the conscious awakening network. We have some of you joining by a zoom.

There are some joining on YouTube and watching online through the conscious awakening network and through the apps, through, Apple TV and prime Roku, and so forth. And so it's such a joy and a pleasure to be with all of you. Thank you for being here. And I want to welcome Charles Matthew.

I am so excited to have Charles here today. So Charles has spent over four decades exploring the interactions between crystals, people, and technology. He's studied with extraordinary people like Marcel Vogel and Dale Walker. He is adept at utilizing human focus and intention with crystals to open extraordinary states of health and consciousness.

Charles knows that it's now time to [00:04:00] share the wisdom. He's accumulated over a lifetime to help the next generation, to take his learnings and advance them further. He's thrilled to be here today to help all of us, to experience our own limitless possibilities. So welcome Charles. What a joy to be with you today.

It's my joy to be here also and to set the energy. May I please do a chant? Yes, please. Okay. here we go. may come a hollow moon, and welcome[00:05:00] 

Hmm. Beautiful. Hmm. Do, can we know the origins of that?

Or is it impromptu? Impromptu. Oh. Channeling. Channeling. Another word is channeling. I'm real good at doing that. Ah. Yeah. Yes. Would you say that's from a star system or do we know? It's from this group is for this group right now. And I can do some others and I can do some chance that I normally do.

It's part of, as part of a more integrator Program that I'm putting together because I work with energy, the subtle energies of the body and the subtle energies all around us and with these energies in terms of play, working work, play with them. I play with them. Okay, as opposed to work, because when I'm playing, I'm having fun.

I'm getting better results and all that. And in fact, I'm talking about playing. I'd like to [00:06:00] play with a few people that are in the group, and if there's anyone that like to would like to experience a little bit of this energy before I talk a little more on if you have a pain that's come up in the last few minutes.

Let me know. And I'll work with you. 

So if anybody feels like they want to come on Karen. Karen. how can I help you today?

So I've been having, pain in my spine. Okay. And where's his pain at, please? It's specifically like, behind my rib cage and up to my neck. Okay. It's not as bad today, but I have been experiencing it. Okay. And is it easy for you to stand up? Yes. Should I stand up? Go ahead and stand up and turn your back to me.

Okay. Right. There's real good. Okay. There's good. Okay. And how's your back now? [00:07:00] It feels fine. I don't have the pain right now. Okay. Check and see if you can bend a certain way and get it back. Get the pain back to me. See right here. Feel it right there. Okay. And feeling it right there. How is it now? Has anything changed?

I want you to try and feel it. You may feel that it's gone totally and completely. Now. Yep. That pain is gone. Thank you. Pretty cool. Huh? Thank you. Yeah. All right. That's how quick that's how easy. Wow. All right. All right. Rather than me talk about it, I can just do it. Anyone else? Patty, I know that it is the middle of the night for you and Patty is in Australia.

[00:08:00] It's like two in the morning. Oh, hey, Patty. Hi. Patty, do you have any anything you want Charles to work on here? Put you on the spot. There you are.

Okay. I've got a pain that has kept in the last couple of days at the bottom of my back. Okay. And the bottom of the back, are you talking the tailbone or above that, or below that? around the tailbone area. It's just slightly to the right of the tailbone area. Okay. Can you feel it now?

Yeah, it's still there. Okay. Okay. good. Okay. And just look into my eyes.

And how is that now?

No, it's still there a little bit. Okay. I don't, I think I experienced it when I bend over to try to lift things or something. all right. Good deal. Good deal. And go ahead and,just, [00:09:00] bend over a little bit and try and lift things. I'm going to add a little piece to this, and I'm going to add a little piece of crystal that's programmed.

And I'll show it to the group. And, this is it. And, I'm going to put it on me. On my back, on my body. About where you, your pain is. Or was. And, just right back here. I'm just putting it on the clothing. And how is it now? Because I'm connected with you deeper. 

Can you feel me connected with you energetically? No, I don't feel like any stress at all. That's all right. That's all right.

I'm really jumping real far ahead as opposed to talking about how all this works. I'm just really open to sharing a couple of sharing with a few of you how it works. Okay, I understand. And, how about if you've been forward now, how's your back?

With the pain totally and completely transformed for your highest and [00:10:00] best good now.

No, I can still feel it a little bit. Okay, did it go down or up? Yeah, I would say yes. I really noticed it. Well, I think we'll try to walk around a bit. Okay, go ahead and do that. Go ahead and do that, Paddy. yeah. Thanks for, thanks for being up this time. 

Yeah. All right. Good. Good deal.

I'm feeling it's relieved a lot at the moment. It's still a little bit there, but it's not until I go outside and try to pick a battery up that I might. I understand. I understand. You might notice it, but. I understand. I've had this pain on and off for a while. Okay. And I think, and in my theory, it actually is a pain that comes from A very good friend of mine, and that's where he got his cancer.

Ah, okay, well we're going to, whoa,yeah. So we're going to have to change that right now. May I [00:11:00] just, bring in a bigger piece of, quartz. And I'll explain a little bit later. Okay, I'm going to, I'm going to bring it in. I'll go in the other room real quickly. Okay.

So all of you may be saying, well, what is this all about? We're just talking about rocks and things like that. And, Patty, are you back? There you are. Can you see this? Yeah, I'm just looking for a bit of course I might have here. Okay. And,this is specially programmed and, go ahead and look at it.

I'm connecting with you now and feel this going up and down your back. In fact, up and down your body. And what I want you to imagine is whatever pain was there in your lower back, go ahead and let it trickle down your legs and set an imaginary route to the molten core of Mother Earth, an imaginary route to the molten core of Mother Earth through the bottom of each of your feet, the ball of your foot, and just send that all the way down to the [00:12:00] molten core of Mother Earth.

And what color is that energy going down to the molten core of Mother Earth? reddish. And let the reddish, let the, let the anger go. let the anger go down. Send it a little bit more. Create another imaginary,link with the molten core of Mother Earth and an imaginary tail. How's that for something this early in the morning?

Imagine a tail going down there all the way and let that red go down, trickle down, go down. And let me know what color it is now. I'm thinking green. good. And even more, even, let even more go down. And what I want you to do is to, let me know that paint Oh, you're going in and out of mute there, Charles.

All right. That was me. I hit the spacer key on my keyboard because this is [00:13:00] a little bit large. There we are. Okay. Yeah. It's bigger than a bit of course I've got and,and it's specially programmed.

It comes from my collection and, I call it the Matthew collection. And it's part of 45, 000 pounds of crystals that I've had since,the 80s, the late 80s. That's what I'm making. Go ahead. I say, have you got any Iceland Spar? Clearquartz? I'm not sure by names. from that name, I'm going to say no.

There's a mine about, 100 odd kilometers from here, about 80, 70 miles, in your term, where the Germans mined Icelandic spa ports from Ecuador, it's very clear. very clear and it's double reflective. And I've got a friend who told me about it. We are gonna go up there and get some samples from it.

They [00:14:00] mine it in 1926. Okay. Okay. Around there. Now a lot of what I have, I, I did, I bought out several stores back in the late eighties and, I, I had no,I'm not real sure what the names are and all that, so I'm going to tell you I don't have it, but what I do is I program crystals, and I teach how to program crystals for their highest and best good.

Well, when we go there,I'll get a bit for you. there you go. when the Germans mined it, they were getting it out in big chunks that were, Some of them were in excess of two feet in diameter. Wow. Wow. Okay. that's totally, much bigger than what I have around here, because I don't know if you saw it or not, but the piece of crystal that I put on my back was about this big.

And, there, can you see it? It's in the tweezers. [00:15:00] Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Now. Yep. Okay. So, but I brought out this bigger piece. That's another one. Yep. This is the bigger one. This is the bigger one. And so how are you now? How is your back now when you bend over? I'm feeling a lot better, not absolutely cured, but it's a lot better.

Okay. And what color is the energy going down through your feet? pretty nearly clear, whitish clear, a bit like the quartz color. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. And what you did is basically whatever that issue was about, it's gone from your body. Yeah. Yeah. If I had a bit of quartz and had it treated or treated it myself, I could do that for my friend maybe.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Let me give you the steps for that. Just ask him to imagine a root going down through the bottom of his feet. So that's two roots to [00:16:00] the molten core Mother Earth. Two roots from the ball of the foot, bottom of the foot going down to the molten core Mother Earth. And then going down and notice the color started out as a trickle.

just let it be a trickle and ask what color it is, and it'll probably start off as a darker color and just ask every now and then what's what color is it as it clears up. Use those words. What color does it change to as it clears up now, and those are,that's the technique.

Now, Charles, I'm curious if there are people who don't feel that they're very visual or they're not accustomed to describing a color to their pain or something. And so there may be some sort of block or something that hasn't really. Kicked in within them to be able to say like, Oh, I don't know what color it is.

I don't see a [00:17:00] color. I can't see the energy. Do you have any ways that we can help people to tune into what color it might be if they're not seeing a color? Let me expand it a little bit more. if you're not seeing a color. Keep in mind that's really a good sign because the color may be invisible to you.

So you get to choose another way to feel how this energy is, this subtle energy that causes pain within us. All right. Cause I believe that a pain is caused by blocked energy, an emotion like anger, sadness, grief,somehow it gets stuck and it's there to get your attention, the person's attention that has the pain to do something different.

it's, it can be to get rid of that pain or it can be to do something with their elbow, their left elbow, their right elbow, but it's to get attention and the body does it in all kinds of different ways. And usually when someone [00:18:00] feels a pain. It's what I call a calibration point, and a calibration point is like something changes, and when I'm talking about something, we usually work with five modalities, major modalities, V A K O G.

visual, auditory, kinesthetic or feeling, olfactory, smelling, gustatory. And because of the, the huge use of television and TV,it used to be that, that it was more even in terms of what these modalities were that people recognized. But now visual is by far the most common recognized.

secondly, It's usually,auditory. Thirdly, it's usually visual. And again, this would change for how old the people are, what country they're in. But then olfactory and gustatory are least recognized. So, it's really real individual. but by [00:19:00] having a measure of some kind, of some stimulation or sense,gives us the opportunity to know if we, make the changes

and notice the changes that just seems to work faster and you can do it with yourself. And there's exercises to do this, to develop this even more. And what I find is that when people are talking to each other, generally,they recognize the stimulus of, vision or sound. And that's real easy to calibrate.

from what do you smell, what do you taste, all right? But yet, the people that, are most sensitive to smell or taste, or maybe kinesthetic type things, they're more sensitive. And they have higher accuracy, so we're looking for something that's within us or the other person to notice a change [00:20:00] calibrate it like you notice I'm asking how much pain is there.

Usually I ask go do it 0 to 10, 0. It's total calm 10. it's outrageous. You want to leave the room. but I'm really stepping into letting anyone who wants to have an experience of this energy because it's so available to us. And it's so simple to, to work with. Let's do it and then I'll tell you my story.

Okay, so Patty, how are you now? I'm not totally gone, but I feel much more comfortable. Okay, super. I can nearly go out and split wood, but it's too dark to see the wood or the axe. Understand. Understand. We'll know that they'll just trickle out just even more and I'll check back with you on this specifically.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. I've got bare feet on. So, all right. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. And,anyone else that would like,to experience pain being [00:21:00] gone,

Okay, Don. Great. 

All right. And Don, D A W N. All right. And Don, can you hear me okay? Oh, she says, I don't have sound on. All right. Can I chat? Okay. if it's better for you to, to type it, you can do that. Are you going to need to see her, Charles? no. Okay. No. Okay. So Don, what, where is the pain in your body?

And what's the level of it? Zero to ten, zero total calm, and ten,very extreme you want to run out of the room. 

She says all over, mostly back, neck, from sleeping. What's the level right now?

She says it's not strong now. It was at a two or three when sleeping. It goes to a four to seven. Okay. So it's about a two or three right now.

Back, head, neck, about three to four. Okay. And, I'm gonna put this on my back of my [00:22:00] neck. It's, I've got a little piece of tape there. And can you see the, little itty bitty piece of quartz? Yes. This is program quartz. Okay, I'm gonna put this on the back of my neck. To symbolize working with Don.

Yeh te sato to para ta. These are just words that I'm saying that I'm making up. They're also known as channeling. Okay. Vida mana kare seto para tera. Mota sedo karma kare le. And what's the level of the pain now please Don?

 says she feels a bit woozy from the chanting. Good. So what's the level of pain? And woozy is good because what you're doing is you're clearing all that pain out. Still a three at least. Okay. So, how would you be different if your pain were to be totally and completely transformed now?

How would you be different? [00:23:00] How would you be different? Super happy. Are you good enough to be super happy? Yes or no?

Oh, get a no. So go ahead and imagine yourself. Out in the future, and the future can be one day, or the future can be ten years, being super happy, and having super happy sounds, and super happy... colors and super happy feelings and just super happy when you're sleeping. And so just say sleeping tonight, imagine that you get up in the morning, super happy now.

I go into a panic thinking about being super happy was not allowed that. So the panic thinking, is that your energy or someone else's energy

or where, or better, better, even better, even. now this is going to be a little bit more advanced. So that only means that things happen quicker. So going into panic [00:24:00] thinking, where is the panic thinking in your body?

Head, heart. So in the head, heart area, what color could you put in there and what sprinkles could you add to be super happy now? First put a color, maybe a turquoise blue. And put in some white silver and now let the white silver get sparkly and the silver get, get real shiny that you can see through it, the silver color and just change with those colors.

with the white, silver, and just silver. And notice how the paint's changing. Hasn't it been? Now,

as I bring my extra piece of the, quartz crystal, so that you can, see it.

And does it look anything like the, quartz crystal? And just [00:25:00] go ahead and be with that. And go into the quartz crystal with your vision. Or with a feeling, or with a sound, or maybe a smell, or maybe a taste.

And how are you different now,

within you, giving yourself full permission

to be, well, Happy at first, and then super happy, okay? Take a happy level of five, and then as I count down, go up in terms of the super happy. Four, super happy, five, super happy, three, [00:26:00] super happy, even more all over. So that it's just Like a total of 11, or, well, let's say a 10, just to keep it within boundaries.

So how are you feeling now, please?

And look even more into the crystal that's on the screen, yes, and know that it's really okay for you to be super happy, hasn't it been? And it's okay if it's scary, because you can do it slowly, and why not do a screenshot so you can have this picture? And so just in case there's anybody who can't see the chat, she had written, Ooh, much more peaceful and calm happiness when Charles asked her how she was feeling.

And then she says, [00:27:00] thank you. Still scary. Being happy can only do it in the crystal, but nice. I could be super happy. Yes. We'll go ahead and do a screen, a screenshot. Can you do that?

I'll keep it right here. Yeah. Please keep crystal up so I can take a screenshot. And then you can,go ahead and, got it. All right. Got it. So you can play with this a little bit later while we're talking here today, because I'm going to start talking a little bit more and, and then we'll see what happens that you're even more super happy.

That's beautiful. Thank you. Thank you, Don. Thank you, Charles. Well, Charles, can we pause here and allow people to integrate that a little bit. And while we do, maybe you can just give us a little bit of your [00:28:00] backstory. We went into this in detail the last time I had you on, but it's really fascinating to hear how you went from engineering and working with the department of defense to becoming a shaman and a healer.

So can you tell us, just give us a little bit of your backstory. you bet. started back in, 66, where I started college, and I was on a government program, U. S. government. I worked for D. O. D. It was,secret type stuff. And back at the time, it was the, Vietnam War, so I had an occupational deferment, and I was, a D.

O. D. employee. which meant that I got to see a lot of things that most people couldn't see or talk about and all that. And I continued and, I continued,and graduated from undergraduate school. I was an engineer and a geek. because you had to be a geek and pretty good at being a geek, to get in this program.

And,and I became, quite successful. But I knew something was off with my life and I didn't know what it [00:29:00] was. It turned out that I started out in the Dallas, Texas area and,after I graduated, I, well, I lived a couple other places in Texas, but I was in Houston and did real well. So I went to graduate school in Dallas and, but while I was in Houston, I noticed that, even though I was a geek, I didn't want to be a geek because I didn't want to be an engineer and do what an engineer does in their, in an engineering environment.

Because one of the companies that I did work with in Dallas was Texas Instruments, which were very well known for high tech type things back in the 60s. this goes way, way back. And,so I said, well, wait, I've got to, I don't want to sit at a desk all day long or a drawing board and looking at numbers and this and that.

I really enjoy talking to people. And so, well, I, I switched, undergraduate and I went, well, I want to talk to people more. How do I do that? And I still was carrying my slide rule. [00:30:00] I had an orange mattress shirt on and plaid blue plaid pants. like a geek. And, so I joined a fraternity and after being razzed a lot and being asked to stay, to squat on a table that was four by four, in the dining room area, and,flat my wings like a duck.

okay. I got to dress a little bit differently. So I did, and I actually became president of that fraternity. And, and that changed my life, but when I went to Houston, I also started working and interacting with people, which is different than talking to them. from a geek point of view, I talked to them from a person point of view.

But something still wasn't right with my life. So I went to graduate school and part of going to the graduate school was continuing something new that I found, which was Transcendental Meditation and I ran into Transcendental Meditation in [00:31:00] 74. And, and I liked it and I felt better because I knew I was going down a health road that was.

really bad because I was,for, for supper, I had happy hour at the, at the bar, or I'd have a client and take them out and we'd have drinks. And I knew that was just going to mess up my body and all that. So I started the meditation and just Got more calm. I did it twice a day.

I wanted to do more of it and they had this real. I did it for about,for about 3 years and then I took an advanced program and it was called the city program with a Maharishi my Shogi. It was very advanced and, I was in graduate school. So that 1st Christmas vacation, I went to Fairfield, Iowa to take this course.

It was 2 weeks and 3000. Which was a lot of money back at the time, probably 10, 000 nowadays. So I went there and I took this course and we were going to [00:32:00] levitate and become invisible. And so I said, okay, well, this has been good so far. I'll see what it's about. And on the third day we were getting ready.

We started the program. I followed the instructions and the instructions were to, I

 Charles, you froze right when you go. And the instructions were, and comically, that was just the instruction. just do it. Just levitate, just levitate, levitate, follow the instruction. Just levitate.

And I did. Now, here I am a graduate engineer, electrical engineer, working high tech, clearance with the government, and, in this, And I defied gravity. So I went, what is going on? this changed my whole world. and, I was,I said, I've got to have more of this. So I did more and I studied more and I studied more things and I did better for flying.

But then I gave up the flying because, [00:33:00] wherever you have gurus or leaders like in, In politics or in the church type thing, the people that follow the carry out the instructions,they bring their own stuff. And it ends up getting real confused. So that's what happened within the part of the team that I was in, in the area that I was in.

And I said, this is too weird. I'm not going to do it. Anything to do with the guru, I want nothing to do with. So I got out of that and I just took more things. I just got more instruction on. I was one on one with the leading instructor in Austin, Texas, where I was working. in the,the late seventies, I, well, anyway,I started doing less of the high tech things and doing more of this woo woo.

And I continued doing even more. I, 77 is when I lifted up December of 77. I discovered in 79 that I was a healer. I went to a class. We broke up in pairs and in the [00:34:00] instructions were send energy out of your hand to the other person. I did. And I sent it out. My hands were moving a little. The other person says I'm getting hot.

instructor comes over and says, you're a healer. And I go, I'm a what? And that started my, my, my gathering even further. So I just continued, I, I just continued and continued with this woo woo. And still I was very high tech and did more and more. I did. Did a board testers and component testers in terms of, working with them and marketing them.

And these are real, real high, fancy type things. And I just did more and more. and then I got to a point where I didn't want to do high tech anymore. So I got my own company going. And, and then after several years, I shut it down and did woo woo full time. My first client was an 81. This is what we're talking, what I'm talking to you [00:35:00] about, I've been doing since 81.

That was my first paid in client, and I enjoy it. I have fun with it. I play with it, but I still haven't figured it out. Whenever I meet someone and they don't know me, I say, you have to excuse me. I'm going to go play with my rocks right now. And they look at me funny and back off. I never understood that, but maybe some days.

And, so that's my story. It started with me being high tech. I openly tried meditation. Not only did I try it, I did it. I got more advanced. I discovered I had this ability, discovered I was gifted, and I'm just learning even more and more all the time. I get a lot of intuitive things, like I get a lot of intuitive sounds.

Words. that's my story. Well, thank you. I love it. I love the whole geek thing. I'm sure, you know, geek has been cool for years, so you were ahead of your time. 

I [00:36:00] want to go back to these, the crystals and you have like four, how many pounds of crystals? about, 45, 000 pounds. Okay. That's what is that? 20 tons. Okay. 22 times. Yeah. Wow. So that's a lot. It is a lot. It's a lot. So I know a lot of people are very interested in crystals, and I don't know if you, if anything comes to mind in terms of how people can interact themselves with crystals, maybe things about how.

They can select crystals if we focus on healing, how they might know what to be looking for, how to work with them. If anything comes to mind in terms of work, people working with crystals and how to do that effectively. Well, let me do this. Let me, let me put it a little bit different way. if you have a question about crystals, could you go ahead and ask it now?

 Because I am putting a class together. I've come out of retirement. I, I went into retirement in 2004 [00:37:00] and I looked after my parents for six years for their health.

And they improved dramatically. and then they passed. Okay. My dad had two weeks to live. He ended up living for,with high quality of life for 14 months, which is about 60 weeks, I think. So, I'm pretty good. We did this in a military hospital, Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. And,they were, the doctors were all amazed.

And, So, I'm taking more of what I do and just making it where I'm teaching other people to do it. In fact, what I'd rather people do is spend a little more time learning what I'm teaching, so they can heal themselves. I'm real interested on people working on themselves and that can be done really pretty easily.

That's my focus. So if they could contact you or through you contact me, that'd be great. yeah, I'm happy if anybody [00:38:00] does want to be connected after this live stream, you should have, you have my email because you were able to get into the call. So I know you have my email. So I'm happy to connect anybody.

And then, like we said, if you do have questions. Feel free to put those in the chat. And just to mention, I have some of your crystals, Charles, and to get an idea of, you've got those huge quartz crystals that you've been working with on this call, but this is, I think this is Lemurian star seed, beautiful, beautiful stone.

And it's really hard to even get an idea here of, to see the crystal itself, but this is how small I was shocked. I have four of these and you sent these to me last year and I was shocked at how tiny they are. so I don't know if you want to talk a little bit about that because you have the contrast here.

This is orange zinc guy. No. Orange. Thank God. Zinc height [00:39:00] on one. Yeah. So the contrast here in size. So tell us about how size works or doesn't. to put it real simple, less is more. Less is more. Less is more. that's putting it real simple. And, I'll just give a technical example. We have now a lot of semiconductors.

We have computers and they're getting faster and bigger and better. Well, computers are the,the component part of computers are actually made of crystalline products. Crystals, back in the 60s, and I got to see this, were crushed, and they were crushed and pulverized. and they were put in a heated chamber, and impurities added, impurities that were very, very special, and in small parts, parts per billion.

And this is what the raw material is that, make up these integrated circuits,or, components of the solid state of the quartz. And I got to see these being [00:40:00] made. They were in a big tube and they were growing from the top down like stalactites, like icicles. And then they were in a column and then they would be cut up with a diamond blade saw and they'd be almost the size and look like,CDs.

Okay. If you can find a CD these days, and,that was how they started off and, nowadays the,now, as opposed to using quartz crystal, they use, SiO2 stand S A N D, that's real purified, really purified,but keep in mind that quartz is made up of silicon dioxide. Or quartz is made of silicon and,oxygen, SiO2, and,so there are many qualities that are the same with quartz as with computers, as with humans.

We have crystalline characteristics. I have a listing of [00:41:00] this, we'll do that another time. I wanted to share that. 

 It's interesting when you talk about computers, people, crystals, and I think of the programmability of all three of those, you know, which, you know, yes, people and people and programming people and programming. And what I do is,on an, I'll call it a, invisible level or an etherical level is I'll take little pieces of quartz and I'll program them and they'll be more powerful than this right here.

I can send those in an envelope in the mail which means that it's a lot easier for people to get. they are still very pricely because it took over 12 years for me to program these. Oh wow. And I've got some real unusual abilities that are just intuitive to me. They're really gifts of spirit.

And so I'm taking these now teaching what I know that I can teach that,[00:42:00] then the doing what I do. And,so questions, please. So we do have some that have come in first is Patty. Charles, are there any good books that you recommend?

 not really because,if you can get a hold of Marcel Vogel's, documents, but they're not in the form of a book, but I'm going to be actually, be actually putting that information together. A lot of you explain what the vote, who he is and what the vocal crystal is. Marcel Vogel, is a gentleman.

He worked out of California with IBM. He was a senior scientist and as a senior scientist within IBM, it was the same thing as the vice president of IBM. He worked in the Palo Alto area. He also holds the patent for an LED. He passed several years ago, but I studied with him, and here this gentleman was talking woo type things, and he was one of the [00:43:00] foremost scientific engineering type people that worked in high tech, and he worked at the deepest level of the most.

extreme level, state of the art level at the time. So it's,it's ever expanding as the ability of computers to do more and the ability of cell phones to do more and more. it's scientific. what's being written, a lot of people use the names of stones, of minerals, and they, and they think that means something.

It's real hard to say this, but the names hardly mean anything. It's like, what kind of energy does the stone have, and where did they get it, and what part of the mine run was it in? They can say it's,Lemurian quartz, that's in the, real popular,in the, some Brazilian mines.

I've found in Hawaii. A, a quartz that I call Lemurian [00:44:00] Starseed Quartz, and I'll show you how huge this is and what it can do. And, I'll do an experiment in a moment, but this is how huge it is. It's on this piece of, piece of tape. Can you see it? Notice how huge it is. All right, what I'm going to do.

And what I'm going to those within this call, and I'm just going to put this in my third eye area and connect with each of you. Now, going to put this in my third eye area. And notice if you notice a change in the energy. Does anyone notice a change within their energy with their eyes open or closed, or just whatever they may sense and sounds.

I can feel like. spiraling pressure in my third eye. And this is what I call the [00:45:00] marine star seed. It's very tiny. I'm the only one that I know that has it. It's very special. I acquired it with, permission from Kahuna's, and the Big Island of Hawaii. And this is part of the programming that I use.

And, I call it Lemurian Star Seed because it's just like a seed of, people get upset when they lose it or drop it or they can't find it because this little piece, because it's so rare and so powerful. You saw it. I charged 30 for it and people say 30 for that little speck or something. And then they feel it and they go, wow.

I mean, write down just what you're experiencing with feeling this, and I'm going to Ashley. Ashley says, I just felt an opening and calmness Don saying she can feel it. Yeah. and Don, when you're feeling it, how is it knowing that you're super happy now, [00:46:00] can you feel that super happiness even more?

Thank you. She's laughing. Yes. It's that easy. And Heidi says, feeling calm and serene. Ashley says, what does it mean when the third eye pulses? It means that the third eye is starting to open. You're real sensitive. It's going to open up your intuitive ability or your,your, ability to sense things.

Now, what I'm going to ask is I'm going to take this off because you saw how big it was, right? And we're in real far distances as far away as Australia and talking with Patty earlier, and I'm just gonna all I did is put this little piece on my forehead. I'm going to take it off. You saw how big it was.

I take it off. And you notice the difference.

Yeah. And I don't feel that same. Yeah. Yeah. But you notice, generally you notice more of a calming effect of more of a peaceful feeling. Yeah. and so once [00:47:00] again, I'll put it on my third eye, less is more, less is more. Don says she felt an immediate difference. beautiful. And I'm putting it on again.

Okay. Imagine that I connect with each of you. I'm connected with each of you energetically. and some of you I haven't seen yet, and, the picture of anyone and Don is even noticing changes of being super happy. This is how quick, this is how simple, this is how beautiful this energy is. It, for me, when you're putting it on your third eye, it's feeling like a magnet.

Like it's drawing, like, like drawing all the energy and just magnet, like, like pulling it. Right in there is how I'm experiencing that Ashley said her third eye has been throbbing for weeks now. Thank you. We had a couple of other questions higher up there. Ashley asked the best way to [00:48:00] cleanse crystals.

Never. Let me explain. You want to clear crystals all the time. Never cleanse them. Whenever you cleanse crystals, you're taking all the energy out. A lot of times, crystals have, you're drawn to crystals because they have information in there for you. If you cleanse them by putting it in salt water, putting it in, in the ground,that's cleansing.

You want to avoid cleansing. Cleansing is if you have, is if you, if the crystal's been harmed in some way, like it deals with black magic or manipulation, that's where you want to cleanse them. What you do want to do is clear them. And in fact, I say rather than cleanse, I don't use the word cleanse. I use the word clear.

And if you're not clearing it, what you're doing is you're erasing it. Just like you're erasing a hard disk or information in your computer. You're erasing information when you cleanse crystals, [00:49:00] so you can clear crystals by putting it under running water for 10 to 20 seconds. You can put it in moonlight.

You can pray on them. You can sing. You can do crystal bowls. You can do sage. Many ways that you would do cleansing on yourself. You can do that with crystals. And in fact, I recommend before you use crystals that you cleanse them. Oh boy, throw something at me. Did you notice how I did that on purpose? Did anybody catch that mistake?

Naughty, naughty. I use the word cleanse. You clear, clear, clear, clear, clear out the old stuff so that you can start anew and whatever's in there for you will still stay. Okay. That's wonderful. Thank you, Ashley, for asking that, because that is really valuable insight. I didn't know that either. I didn't know that there would be a difference between cleansing and clearing.

That's wonderful. It's a very subtle difference and a very confusing difference. Think of erasing, starting all over, [00:50:00] or building up information in the crystals. That's like in these little small pieces of quartz. I kept on building up on information. All right, building up on information. Thank you. And, I did a lot of testing with them.

So, there's lots of ways to get that information out. but, before you meditate with a crystal or go inside and find out what's there, or just have more super happiness or whatever it is you desire, better intuition, just go ahead and please clear. Clear means a, just the stuff that's harmful to you.

Right. If it's harmful to you, you're going to notice it and that's bad. Big thing when you're buying crystals in the store, what people get messed up with the most. They'll be drawn to a crystal or they'll feel something and they'll pick it up and because crystals hold information that's the strongest.

The strongest information is what's there,[00:51:00] and if someone beforehand, ended up that they were at hard feelings or manipulative feelings, or they were criminal in nature, you pick up that crystal and you wouldn't like it. Intuitively, you wouldn't like it. You want to be drawn to things. So one of the first things when you.

When you,look for crystals or look for stones, have the intention of clearing it. Now, what I can do is I can clear something real quick and easy, but what you can do is just say the light invocation, four times. I do this real quick. It takes me this long. I go, okay, it's clear just because I've done it so many times.

And this is what I teach in the workshops. It's simple. It's so simple that it's usually overlooked. But something as simple as when you go in a crystal store, if you're drawn to something, make sure you clear yourself, your crystal, then spend a little time with it. That's how to make the best selection.

[00:52:00] Not that someone tells you it comes from Egypt or Biafra or the North Pole or whatever. No. It's about what you're drawn to, and then are you really drawn to connecting with that crystal? The only way you can really tell that is by clearing it. And you can clear it very simple, easy. I gave you some methods, just say it real quick again.

I cleared it. Okay, I know I'm going pretty fast, but well, yeah, and I do want to respect your time here. Heidi asked if you have a website and you've mentioned that you have a course coming up. So how can people find out about your course? And do you have a website to share connect with me? Please do car.

Okay. And,and I'll do that. I'm going to have a landing page as opposed to a website. And,I'm putting all that information together. And my big challenge right now is to figure out how to do, [00:53:00] use virtual marketing.

I know hardly anything about it. yes, I am technical, but up until a year ago, I couldn't, I really couldn't get on the internet and do zoom calls,because I could do it for one or two people or three people, maybe, but poor quality. I finally got Starlink and now I can do it, but I have to catch up on all that tech.

And I have people lined up that are doing that for me. I'm going to do it in a slow pace because just for. there's only so much time in a day, but since I'm on this call with you, give me a call. I may, we may even set up another call per car's schedule and all.

Yeah, that'd be fair. Yeah. Yeah. So, so email me if anybody wants to be connected with Charles and I can get you connected. And do you have that landing page up that I can refer people to or that's in process? No, because it's in process because I've got so much going on. I'm like having to, I'm training some people now, really good people.

It's like, I can only do so [00:54:00] much and see so many people. Yeah, right. and, and keep in mind,I'm elderly. Okay. I'm 74. All right. So I can use that as an excuse maybe, but no one really says, he can't tell me that because I cut my grass with push mower and I've got several acres here.

Okay. Yeah. that's my exercise. That's what I was going to say. that's why there's only so much time because you spend a lot of time cutting your grass. Yeah. Wonderful. Well, Patty's keen count him in. He says. Oh, cool. Hey, Patty, how are you doing? How's your back, Patty? Bend over. Oh, good.

Now there's still some bit of pain there, but I'm confident it'll be good. It'll get better. It's okay. Okay. now that I've increased my energy and I wanted to show you all how I do it, I'm going to connect with you even deeper. And as I connect with you deeper, do you feel any difference by chance?[00:55:00] 

See, this is a layering process, as opposed to going in and really blasting. That's how come less is more. Because if you come in with energy that's too strong, your body shuts down. So if you get a crystal that's too big, or it's too intense, your body naturally will shut down. By chance, Barry.

Any difference with, with how you maneuver with your back, lower back?

I'd say it's getting better, but there's still a little bit of pain up and feel there. And I don't know, I don't even know what caused it in the first place. I just woke up two mornings ago. And if you were to pick something that you've been wanting to do for a long time. Just give it, just think of something that you've been wanting to do for a long time and give it a code name.

A code name can be like do or blue or just some word, something you've been wanting to do.

But don't tell me any details. Okay. [00:56:00] Well, nine. Nine. Okay, within nine. when you feel nine, how does nine feel to you? The code word nine. And if you bring that, if you bring energy into your lower back, do you notice any difference with the feeling of nine? And are you good enough to really feel nine and to own it?

No. Okay. Alright. that's, there's still a little bit of the twinge there of the pain. It, like I say, I dunno what caused it. I just woke up with it. Well, it, what, it's not so much what caused it, is that the pain is there for you to do something different and it could be that maybe you're to eat spinach or maybe you're to stop eating spinach.

Right. So it could be a lot of different things. Market clear there, there is a big tool I've got to do. [00:57:00] Okay. And that could be what's linking to it Because,and. Right. I've gotta be at the computer more than being outside. Well, I prefer to be outside. Be outside. Okay. Cutting grass, not your grass.

My grasp. Right. Your grasp. Right, right, right. So I got a bit of it here. So it, the pain is not always. related to, what caused it. And in fact, when I work on people in person, what I'll do is I'll just use the pain as a calibration level for,what activated the pain. Is it going away?

Because the unconscious mind or the subconscious mind is what's in control of these things. and they're just saying, well, there's something more to do. And the pain is just going to get worse until you can do it, or until you do it, but trying to figure out the reason for it.

And how come it's still there and all that all you're doing. It's wasting time with your conscious [00:58:00] mind, and if your conscious mind could have fixed it, it would have fixed it by now. Yeah, I should get rid of it. So, it's that's right. Just get rid of it. Work with your unconscious mind.

It's usually a different part of your body. And the pain leaving... is saying you, you found the point. Okay. let's see what happens. And there are programs within us that I call self-sabotage programs we're to get certain levels. and now I'm talking fast,but it's complicated and yet it's very simple.

I understand that. Okay. Okay. and, oh gosh,Cara, I apologize. I looked at the clock and I noticed we're going over. Okay. That's all right. It's been very valuable. Okay. All right. Were you about to say something, Patty? Well, I was just,I've been, had a bit of contact with a fellow, who's,with sacred, geometry and that sort of thing below Jane 108, of him.[00:59:00] 

I don't, I don't I don't know. Yeah, he's got, he's a, yeah. A couple of hundred miles up from north of here, and he's got a big place, he's got a hundred acres there, but he's got a big display of crystals there. Huge things, and he's got one, I think it's a, I think it's a thunder egg, but it's broken. And it's 15 tons or something rather in, in this one bit of it.

it's massive and I'd like to go up there, but I don't want to go up there unless I can actually talk to him. Well, actually, what you can do, what you can do,just prepare yourself that, you're going to talk to the crystal that you're talking about real big and that his energy will be there.

All right, and,a couple 100 kilometers is a is what probably a couple hours drive. Yep. Okay. So for a couple hours drive, if that could bring you some feeling and bring you some [01:00:00] opening on a subtle level would be an intuitive level. I think that could be real beneficial for you.

Okay. I'm rather intrigued by your

backstory. That's, yeah, that gets to me. And just going there and if you're allowed to, to touch the biggest crystal and just touch it or put your hands on it or hug it or even just maybe touch the dirt around it. that could be real helpful. It could be a sign. That's what I'm picking up.

Yeah, okay. I can accept that. You're talking about a five hour drive, two hours up, an hour for lunch, two hours back. Grandkids along. yeah, of course. They'd have fun. They get to play with the rocks too. They're very kind. Their mother's got them. They've got crystals. The grandkids have.

Oh, well, what a great holiday. Small holiday. Yeah. Yeah.[01:01:00] yeah, I've been planning it, but yeah, so imagine that you're up there and you're in your,and you're with your grandkids and you're just up there just playing for an hour or so. And, just you and them and whoever else might be there and notice how your lower back is.

Oh, I'm figuring the lower back will be sorted out in the next couple of days because it's been coming and going because of this friend of mine and I rang him up one day and I said, how's your back, your cancer pain going? And he said, oh, it comes and grows. I said, yeah, I can pick it because it comes and goes with me.

 Well, it's good he's not, he's not as, involved or as strong a believer as in the spiritual realm as what I am. He's a bit like, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. He used to be a policeman, so you can a bit of an idea what Right, what they're like. Right. but sort [01:02:00] of Oh, yes and no. Yes and no, and I'm I feel a lot for him because he lost his wife to cancer and because if he was like me, he would have connected straight to her and I think he would have been healed a lot.

Probably the cancer may have been as a result of that. His body not happy with him because there's. There's this problem and, I was talking to, he a bit set in his way, typical policeman. Yes, of course, they've got to, they, they've got to, and, I work with quite a bit of policemen with PTSD and their trauma, yeah, in the military also.

yeah,he would have had PTSD, but they did not acknowledge it back in his day. Right, that's. I didn't. yeah, it's different. All right. Well, Patty, enjoy. I better go. Yeah, okay. Sorry to go because you're really great value. I'll follow you and what you're doing to get something happening.

[01:03:00] Yeah. Thank you so much. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Charles. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Everybody who's been joining us today and listening to the recording, Charles, this has been really activating and informative. And, I would absolutely love to do this another time soon. You got it. And so with that, may I do a closing chant?

Yeah, please.

Beautiful. Thank [01:04:00] you. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Any blessings to everybody? Have a beautiful rest of the day. Yeah. Thank you, Kara. Thank you. Bye.

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